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Speaker 1: multiple pieces? All that was nasty right there? Rights the

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Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling. Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slam on the ground by foot a

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Speaker 1: baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 1: I scared of nobody. Here's Paul Calvic. Well, if everyone

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Speaker 1: is done talking about Will Smith slapping rock? Are we done?

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Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation. Although I will start by saying Danny

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Speaker 1: Serek and Darren Urban Paul a podcast surmises that you

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Speaker 1: know that doesn't happen in the NFL, because I mean

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Speaker 1: they outlawed head slaps years ago. I mean one in

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Speaker 1: the same name of Deacon Jones was going on. They're

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Speaker 1: live on stage at the Oscars. I'm just excited that

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Speaker 1: we know that you're watching the Oscars. Paul. You're so

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Speaker 1: hipping in the no pause. Actually I had to go

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Speaker 1: it was a dreadful performance, and I mean, come on now,

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Speaker 1: they they need to put the Oscars out of its misery,

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Speaker 1: do they not? There have been I mean the TV

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Speaker 1: ratings have been declining for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and for good reason. Yeah, they'll be spike in next year.

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Speaker 1: The only reason I knew what happened was because I

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Cardinals should send Chris Rock this

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Speaker 1: official team helmet with the suggestion that you need to

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Speaker 1: wear this next time you host the Oscars. They might

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Speaker 1: get a lot of run on that. In social media.

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Speaker 1: Something tells me that Chris Rock wants to never talk

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Speaker 1: about this ever again. And it's a good thing. Chris

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Speaker 1: there either. So all right, there we go. There's a

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Speaker 1: couple of quick thoughts right off the top. Now, speaking

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Speaker 1: the week Cardinals Underground, and I think all of us

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, right, Danny, absolutely the Cardinals new guard. They

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Speaker 1: signed him to a one year deal free agent. Will

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Speaker 1: they got a versatile offensive lineman who's got experienced both

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Speaker 1: and I would I would expect him to be the

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Speaker 1: So but that is his game. Will Hernandez, you know,

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Speaker 1: good with carrying Baker Mayfield salary into this season. Lie detector,

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Speaker 1: give me the buzzer. But see again, they are salary

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Speaker 1: cap wise, the Browns have tons have do have cap room.

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Speaker 1: There is not a problem there. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they have a starting quarterback who very well could be

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Speaker 1: suspended for part of the season. Now, if I'm Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: I'm having all kinds of problems with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you want awkward you use the word awkward us. He

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Speaker 1: was the one who originally asked for a trade and

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Speaker 1: they denied it right before they got Watson. If you're

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, what are your options? Oh, you don't have

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Speaker 1: any options. But again that we don't. This isn't Madden.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody not everybody, and of course you two

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Speaker 1: find people are not everybody, but anybody like It's so

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00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: easy to fall back and say, well, you know, if

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00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: they fitted under the capital. We're talking about human beings

440
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Speaker 1: that are doing all this stuff, and whether it's Trey Lance,

441
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Speaker 1: who might have had the greatest relationship with Jimmy Garoppolo

442
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: of all time, Trey Lance might not have a problem.

443
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Speaker 1: But if I'm Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't want to be

444
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Speaker 1: a benchwarmer when I might be able to play somewhere else,

445
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: which he may or may not do. If I'm Baker

446
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Speaker 1: Mayfield and I'm going to the last year of my contract,

447
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Speaker 1: which I guess Jimmy g is too, I don't want

448
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Speaker 1: to be a backup. I'm trying to avoid that at

449
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Speaker 1: all costs. If I'm Baker, I'm telling my agent get

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Speaker 1: me to Seattle, get me to Carolina. But what's his

451
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Speaker 1: agent gonna give me to Pittsburgh. I'na try and broke

452
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Speaker 1: or something, you know, try and find a trade that's feasible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, at this point, Cleveland might obviously have

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Speaker 1: to eat some of his nineteen million dollars salary. They

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Speaker 1: might have to even throw in a draft pick for

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Speaker 1: somebody to take Baker Mayfield in the entire se. I

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Speaker 1: disagree that. So why to get someone to take the

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Speaker 1: contract in the nineteen million dollars? Otherwise they're probably they

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Speaker 1: might be reduced to having to cut him. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: but there's my point. Why if you're gonna if your

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Speaker 1: choice is now, if you're paying some money to get

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Speaker 1: a draft pick, that's one thing. But what would be

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Speaker 1: the point of including a draft pick to make somebody

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Speaker 1: take the contract when if you cut them, you owe

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Speaker 1: nothing because you don't know if they're going to cut him,

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Speaker 1: I guess is the thing? No, no, no, no no, I'm

467
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Speaker 1: not talking about the team training for him. He was

468
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Speaker 1: saying the Browns might have to give a draft pick

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Speaker 1: to somebody else to take the contract. I'm like, no,

470
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Speaker 1: because all you gotta do is cut them. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason for you to give up draft capital. Now, if

472
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Speaker 1: you're trying to get a pick and a team says

473
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Speaker 1: i'll give you a fifth round pick if you pick

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Speaker 1: up half a salary, maybe that's worth it to the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but if it would take If somebody says, no, no,

476
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Speaker 1: you have to give me a pick to take the salary,

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Speaker 1: well I'll be like, well, no you, I'll just cut him.

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Speaker 1: That to me is a worse situation. But if I'm

479
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Speaker 1: Trey Lance, I'm thinking the forty nine ers are waiting

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Speaker 1: for the other foot to other shoot to drop right by,

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Speaker 1: keep shoot a drop on me, sucking. Yeah, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: how I would feel. Look, I'll just go back and

483
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: then we'll move on off this. I just I would

484
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Speaker 1: take a chance on Baker Mayfield on a one year

485
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Speaker 1: prove it deal if I'm Seattle, Carolina or Pittsburgh. I

486
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Speaker 1: honestly would, because he's already proven he's at his best

487
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Speaker 1: when he's doubted okay, and so I would be curious

488
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Speaker 1: to see what a healthy Baker Mayfield does this year

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Speaker 1: for one of those three teams I just listened, especially

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in that same division. With a viable defense,

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious what Baker Mayfield could do and a

492
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Speaker 1: running game in Naj Harris now their offensive line is

493
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: a total mess in Pittsburgh for eighteen million dollars, though,

494
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Speaker 1: depends what your cap room is. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: if the Steelers think that they're a quarterback away from

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Speaker 1: being a playoff team, maybe maybe yeah, But I don't

497
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Speaker 1: The Browns aren't trading the Baker Mayfield to the Steeler.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying he's a two time walk

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Speaker 1: on who motivated himself to win a Heisman and become

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Speaker 1: the number one Hick in the draft. And so you're right,

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00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: he's back where he's been a couple of times in

502
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Speaker 1: his career. I'm curious how he's gonna come out swinging.

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00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: I guess maybe, but he's got to end up on

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Speaker 1: the team. And my point is is he does not

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Speaker 1: have control over where That is absolutely not I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: if you can try and direct the process, get your

507
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Speaker 1: people to work with the Browns front office and other

508
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Speaker 1: teams and broker a trade you know, agents a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, or at the forefront of somebody else. Could

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if anyone's been in

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Speaker 1: this situation to do this, so correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: If you know, if players not going to get a

513
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: contract extension, we hear you know they're gonna hold out,

514
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Speaker 1: they're not going to play. Could his only leverage be

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Speaker 1: if Deshaun Watson get suspended I'm not going to play?

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Speaker 1: What could he pull that? Baker is like, you gotta

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Speaker 1: train me, like if you're gonna keep me here. Well, first,

518
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Speaker 1: first of all, the Browns already have Jacoby Brissette. So

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Speaker 1: if Baker Mayfield says no, I'm not gonna play, they're

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00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: gonna be like, okay, then we don't even have to

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Speaker 1: pay you that. He's got no leverage. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to help him out. I understand. I just

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Speaker 1: I think I know it's come up because I know

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Speaker 1: people bring up Kyler Murray and like him sitting out

525
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: significant things, and I'm like, he's not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to do that. He might not show

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Speaker 1: up to some practices here and there, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he will or won't. I don't know, but he's

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Speaker 1: not Kyler Murray wouldn't go and say, oh, I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: out the season. I mean, that's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we did have a Kyler sighting, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get to Darren in his personal sighting a Kyler

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Speaker 1: in a minute, but as of the recording here Cardinal's Underground.

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Speaker 1: On the same day, jj Watt throughout a three second

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Speaker 1: video with Kyler in the background, and what was jj

536
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: Watt's quota was he was just going like wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: like when Kyler in the background, which I thought was

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Speaker 1: funny to me. I took that as like, oh, but

539
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: wait a second, I thought, you guys on social media,

540
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Speaker 1: I thought Kyler Murray wasn't going to be here. I

541
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to be here, And that's not how you

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00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: took it. That's exactly what I'm gonna say. JJ is

543
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: pretty great on social media. Yeah, and you know what,

544
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: he's good at reading the room. I had people from

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00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: the Cardinals flagship radio station text me immediately, Kyler's at

546
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: the facility. Kyler's at the facility. I'm like, yeah, I

547
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's a thing. I'll be honest with you.

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00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been working out, you know, between if

549
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: he's in Texas, he's in Texas, but he visit in Arizona.

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00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know. People think like

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00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: there's zero relationship or he's, you know, conducting some sort

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00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: of holdout in a wife. No. Friday morning, I came

553
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: in here and Thursday he did all the community stuff

554
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: and that this is kind of what you were referring to, Paul. Thursday,

555
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: I'd done the community stuff. At the end of the day,

556
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: shout out to Craig Foy. That happened to be the

557
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: anniversary of Randy Johnson killing the bird with his pitch.

558
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know about a bean ball, and I

559
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if you guys remember, but Calvin

560
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: Murray was the batter for the Giants. I believe when

561
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: that pitch happened in Calvin Murray is Kyler's uncle. So

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00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: at the end of this community day, Craig got Kyler

563
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: to come over and look at the video of Randy

564
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: hitting the bird and got him on camera kind of

565
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: talking about it for like ninety seconds. Apparently Kyler has

566
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: never seen that video real, which I thought was weird wow,

567
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: especially being a baseball guy. So he's looking at the

568
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: video and he's talking about it, and at the end

569
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: of the little conversation, Kyler says, did he get a knock,

570
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: meaning his uncle, And Craig said, no, I think he

571
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: struck out. Randy had to eight strike out to day whatever.

572
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I went home and wrote a

573
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: blog post about it that night, and I looked for

574
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Speaker 1: like twenty to thirty minutes what happened to that bat

575
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: after the bird? But it does not exist, Like I

576
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: don't know where to get a play by play of

577
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: a spring training game. I don't know if it exists.

578
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: But every single story stops as soon as the bird's dead.

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00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: So I have no idea what happened in the bat.

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00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: So I put in there that Kyler was told his

581
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: uncle struck out, and and then Kyle had a quote

582
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: about well, I probably I would probably strike out too

583
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: if I just saw a bird get killed in front

584
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: of me or something like that. It's good. So the

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00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: next morning, our erstwhile producer here, Jim o'mohundro, text me

586
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, Kyler just called you out on Twitter.

587
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like scared the crap out of me because

588
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean? What did I say?

589
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: This could not be good, but it had to do

590
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: with my line, and he said, Darren, he hit a

591
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: he had a double off the wall or something like that,

592
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: and he quote tweeted, he quote tweeted my tweet about

593
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: the story, which props to Kyler. He got me more clicks.

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00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: So I responded to say, sorry, bad info. Whatever. And

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00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: the reason I'm bringing this up is that I was

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00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: at home. This was in the morning. I get to

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00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: the facility and I come in, and usually I walk

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00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: in and I come in through the locker room, so

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00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: I kind of check out see what players are there.

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Speaker 1: And I see Kyler in the training room and he's

601
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: on there and he's getting some kind of work done

602
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: and he sees me and we kind of smiled at

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Speaker 1: each other, and I'm like Okay, he's at me, so

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00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I duck in. I'm like, hey, I'm sorry, and he goes, no, no,

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00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: he goes, I just had to correct it. I talked

606
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: to him last night. He told me he had a double.

607
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: I had to put it out there for the world

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00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: to let everybody know he got a double. And I'm like,

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00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: I'll fix it, no problem. The point being, he was

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00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: at the facility, he was in a good mood. He

611
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: was talking with a couple of teammates who were in

612
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: the training room and with some of the trainers. And

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00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't just JJ day today that he's been here.

614
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Now he's here for a few days. I think he

615
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: had those personal appearances last week, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: got something else going on early this week that he's

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Speaker 1: going to appear at. I'm not one hundred percent sure

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00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: on that, but and last week at those events, media

619
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Speaker 1: that was out there asking about the social media scrubbing, right,

620
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: and then he put the post back on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: he said kind of what the three of us had

622
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: said at the time of at the end of the day,

623
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Speaker 1: he's still got twenty four years old, like he said,

624
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: like that's a normal thing. Now, is he a normal

625
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty four year old, probably not of just saying it

626
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: didn't mean anything. That was just him doing something that

627
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: in his eyes, is normal every once in a while

628
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: to just kind of take a break or scrub things

629
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: in social media. And he reiterated he has a good

630
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: relationship with this front office, with Cliff Kingsbarreen, he wants

631
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: to be a cardinal, and just kind of reiterated those

632
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: things that had him trending for a month and a half.

633
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, you know, I don't I don't

634
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on with a contract. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if anything has changed since all this stuff first

636
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Speaker 1: hit the fan, or whether it's different, or whether he's

637
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: just taken a different tact. I don't know. All I

638
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: know is what's in front of me, which is I've

639
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: now interacted with him twice in the past few days,

640
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: past week or so. He was smiling in a good

641
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: frame of mind Thursday when I shook his hand. Obviously

642
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: we had our little interaction on Friday. He's here working

643
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: out as JJ show. I mean, I can only go

644
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: by that. You know, whether he still is hoping for

645
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: a contract, whether he has any issues. I'm not gonna

646
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: say one way or the other, because I can only

647
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: go by what he's saying and how I'm seeing. I'm

648
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: in right now, it seems okay to me. Well, look

649
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: he could have done something. Yes, he said he was trending.

650
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: He said he would looked down at his phone and

651
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: he was trending for a good five weeks. Well he

652
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: could have put an end to that. He did. So,

653
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's the whole good cop bad cop thing.

654
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: You let your agent be the bad cop, let him

655
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: handle the business side. You make sure you're checking all

656
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: the boxes, you know, making sure that the team and

657
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: the decision makers know that you're worthy of a record contract,

658
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: which is going to be a record contract in Arizona

659
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: Cardinal's history, no matter how you know, in what form

660
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: it takes. Now, could things have improved since January? Perhaps

661
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: maybe at the start of the off season. The response was,

662
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: you know what, we don't really see that happening here

663
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: this off season. Now, maybe instead, you know, they've made

664
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Speaker 1: progress and perhaps there is a deal coming at some point.

665
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: He's been told to be patient. The agent continues to

666
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: push the media a little bit. Last week, we brought

667
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: up Albert Breer on the Monday afternoon Quarterback column on

668
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Speaker 1: si dot com. And now the agent supposedly said we

669
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: would like a new deal by the draft. Okay, then

670
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: what if you don't get it, you know, so that

671
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that's still looming out there? What if so we don't know,

672
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: we have no idea where exactly things might stand. And

673
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: I though we don't know is I think a big

674
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: part of it. I I brought up in the mail

675
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: back today some person said, well, why can't we talk

676
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: about Kyler being traded if he's going to talk about

677
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: sitting out and all and demanding to be traded, And

678
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, whoa, where did that happen? He They

679
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: absolutely came out and said they want a new contract.

680
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: But anybody's saying he's gonna misspractice or skip games, or

681
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: skip training camp or demand a trade. None of that

682
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: has come from Kyler camp. None of it. That's all

683
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: pure speculation over people saying, well, because they want this contract,

684
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen, then this is gonna They never

685
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: said that. Now I'm not saying it can't happen, but

686
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: that has not been said. So to make that jump,

687
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I just I think that's wrong too. I mean, you

688
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: know I could I think this could have been hand

689
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: a little bit better on the Kyler's side, probably, but

690
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't you know. And by the way, since we

691
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: last recorded Cardinals Underground, when he did that media session

692
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: at the charitable events at the Boys and Girls clubs

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Speaker 1: and then the educational initiative with Albertson's Safe Way, he

694
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: did he with Kashmar Delhi, I believe it's which which

695
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: he's one of his sponsors or he endorses them, and

696
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: then with Albertson Safe Way, he gave ten grand to

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Educational Foundation and ten grand to the Valley

698
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Clubs. And his quote to you and

699
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: the other assembled media members was, and I quote, I'm

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00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinal. I've done nothing to give my all

701
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals, will continue to do that. I'm not

702
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: really too worried about my future as a cardinal. Now

703
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: that was last Thursday. As of today at the owner's meetings,

704
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: who'll actually surprise you guys are here right now. I

705
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: guess didn't find a way to you know, go ahead,

706
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: and I may have asked, I may have been turned down. Florida, Florida.

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00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 1: You want to be twice in the same probably should

708
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: just stuck around good lot humble pie for Darren in

709
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: the offseason. Keeps them grinding, keeps them working. That's good,

710
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: Cliff telling the media when asked about quarterback Kyler Murray

711
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: and the team, and then I'm quoting Cliff. Now, we're

712
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: in a good place. That's the business side of it.

713
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I stay out of his things for the most part.

714
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: But as far as our relationship, it's always been great

715
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: and we see him as a long term future and

716
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: I know he feels the same way. So there you go.

717
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: At least no scorched earth, okay, unlike what Darren did

718
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: to Paul and Danny earlier in this edition of Cardinals Underground. Okay,

719
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: so you know, at least least there's been positive vibes

720
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: in the event that there might be something done. Now,

721
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: the question once again is not if I think it's when,

722
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Will it be before the draft? I'd be real surprised

723
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: if that happened. I think more likely it's going to

724
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: be this summer, and it's going to be akin to

725
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: what's happened in these six other rookie Mondo contracts have

726
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: been handed out after year three. They've all happened in June, July, August,

727
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: or September. As we said repeatedly, we've got less than

728
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: a month to the draft. Pretty crazy them. So before

729
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: we get to some of the draft talk, speaking of

730
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: free agency, Okay, there are some big names that are

731
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: still hanging out there. So I'm just gonna throw out

732
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: a few of these names, and basically I'm going to

733
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: pose the question, what if I said that the Arizona

734
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals tomorrow just signed Jadeveon Clowney. They need an edge rusher.

735
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Speaker 1: He's out there rush he's is he a three four

736
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: outside rusher? The heat with the Texans, he was right,

737
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: they ran that scheme and I'm not sure Vans I

738
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: don't think was there when when Jadeveon Clowney was there.

739
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: He is twenty nine. He had nine sacks last year.

740
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: Although if you read through a lot of the Skinner reported,

741
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: Davin Connie really was up and down. He was inconsistent

742
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: for the Browns and that's sort of been the knock

743
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: on him. But but you do give the Cardinals a proven,

744
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: big name pass rusher that the opponent will have to

745
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: account for and the opposing oc will have to game

746
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: plan for you know that's that's one the other edge

747
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: rusher that's out there. What if I said Melvin Ingram

748
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: And if you look at his season now, he's thirty

749
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: three years of age. Okay, that gives you pause right there.

750
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about one year prove it deals here, not

751
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: unlike what the Cardinals gave a John Abraham back one

752
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: year deals. But yeah, it's but Melvin Ingram he had it.

753
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: The first half of his season was with the Steelers,

754
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: and then he got traded basically just you know, for

755
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: nothing to his addition by subtraction for whatever reason, did

756
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: not work with the Steelers. He came on board with

757
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and if you read through a lot of

758
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: their media over the last two months of the year,

759
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes raved about Melvin Ingram and

760
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: what an energy guy was, sort of like a Marcus

761
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: Golden was to the Cardinals, just sort of an energy guy,

762
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: always brought it. He was stout against the run, he

763
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: let him in QB pressures from the moment he arrives.

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00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: So he's an every down player. You know. I just

765
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: think you gotta get an edge rusher at this point,

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00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: someone so that when you go into the draft Danny

767
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: in late April. It isn't such a dire glaring need.

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Speaker 1: My question when you said, what would you say if

769
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Speaker 1: that's who they signed? That's the question. Is it realistic

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00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: to get these guys on a one year deal? Or like,

771
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: are you having to gift something else? I think it's

772
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: realistic to get both of them on a one year deal.

773
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: I think at this point they're gonna want one year deals.

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: The question is is how much you're gonna have to

775
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: pay them on a one year deal. I mean, that's

776
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Speaker 1: if you're talking about having to come up with fifteen

777
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 1: million dollars for j Davian Clowney for one year, that's

778
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: you don't get to. I guess you could. You can

779
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: avoid the hell out of that contract and spread it

780
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: out and that's always doable. You know, do you want

781
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: to do that? I mean, that's that's what it is.

782
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are going to be one year deals.

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00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: I can almost promise you no matter where they sign,

784
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: it'll be one year. Now the question is is how

785
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: much they get who they go to. I mean, I

786
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: would think that if you are one of those guys,

787
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: you'd have to be interested in looking at the Cardinals

788
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: because they have such an incredible opportunity for somebody like

789
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: that to step in and put up some numbers because

790
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: there's such a need here. Guess what, you're gonna start

791
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: seventeen games, if you're healthy, you're gonna get every single

792
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to put up big numbers. Especially we've got JJ

793
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: one in front of you. That's a player who's obviously

794
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna garner some attention. So maybe JJ Watt has played

795
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: with Jeff Davian Clowney, so there's some knowledge there. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So I throw those out there. I'm not opposed to that.

797
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean that that's like many positions, that's a position

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00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: where even if day first round they use that pick

799
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Speaker 1: on an edge rusher, I mean, what are the chances

800
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: they can come in and make a big difference. Well,

801
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: let's let's make this very clear. Even if they sign

802
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: one of those guys, I think drafting a edge rusher

803
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: in the first couple of rounds is almost mandatory because yes,

804
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I get what you're said to him.

805
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: That that or wide receiver. I still think edge rusher

806
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: still makes the most sense to try and make the

807
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: biggest push in free agency. Speaking a wide receiver, Danny Serect,

808
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: how about that. Paul Jarvis Queen Landry is still out there.

809
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: Only you know, he only missed one game in seven

810
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: seasons until last year. Then he had an injury Mar

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one for the Browns. He's twenty nine years

812
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: of age. He is out there. He wants twenty million

813
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Yeah, he's you know, no wonder. He's

814
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Speaker 1: in the second wave of free agency, and if he

815
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Speaker 1: wants twenty million, he's going to last until the third

816
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: wave of free agency. So maybe when the reality check

817
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: hits Jarvis Landry, maybe he might be a possibility. Will Fuller,

818
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: my guy, is still out there at twenty eight years

819
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: of age. Darren's still shaking his head every time I

820
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: mentioned the name will Fuller. I mean, okay, he missed

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Speaker 1: time last year due to that peed suspension, and he

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Speaker 1: also missed time because of a personal issue, and he

823
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: also had a broken finger. But you know, hashtag take

824
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Speaker 1: the top off, so Will Fuller. Julio Jones, Now, look,

825
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: he's not wide receiver one. We know that. Could he

826
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Speaker 1: be wide receiver two? I mean, now, truth be told,

827
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: I was the guy after Week one who was making

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Speaker 1: the jokes after he had three catches for twenty nine

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Speaker 1: yards and six targets and it's the Cardinals and they

830
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: jack snapped the Titans, and Danny I was making jokes

831
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: that whole next week about Julio Jones putting the who

832
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: into Julio because he did absolutely nothing. And now now

833
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm advocating signing him. So nobody mentioned that to him,

834
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: which usually comes on board with the earls. You rather

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00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: have Julio Jones or AJ Green? That's a great question. Now,

836
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: was Julio Jones totally healthy last year at all times?

837
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: Not necessarily? Um, that's a great question. I will say

838
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: that AJ Green is a much more likely candidate to

839
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: come in here. You're probably right. However, let me let

840
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: me just counter with this. Could just the name itself,

841
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: Julio Jones opposite of DeAndre Hopkins command attention that AJ

842
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: Green after last season, will not get this season. But

843
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: for how many weeks? I mean, sure, what you want

844
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: to say the name Julio Jones, it saw okay, what

845
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: three or four weeks? And then when you have enough tape,

846
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: if if you don't feel like he's as much of

847
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: a threat as he once was, then then what Okay,

848
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: sure we can double team d hop Yeah, great. Then

849
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: the name itself, I get it. But but to what

850
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: it I think? I think when you talk about names,

851
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: I think by your name, the name thing. The name

852
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: thing perks up fan bases, it perks up opposing fans.

853
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't see any defensive coordinators sitting

854
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: back on. Oh, we're gonna have to make sure who

855
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: Not only that, but but what receiver even if it

856
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: is a name like Jarvis Andrew Julia Jones, what what

857
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver name would make you say? Oh, do we

858
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: need to give them as much or maybe a little

859
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: more attention than DeAndre Hopkins? Yep? So okay, all right,

860
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: more names. Let's talk cornerback, the other area of need,

861
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: although not as much. Although we disagree on this with

862
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: a Jeff Gladdie, I think he's going to be an

863
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: impact player and he's automatically a top three corner. Darren

864
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: not so much, not willing to go there. So if

865
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: you are of that mindset, what about a Stefan Gilmore

866
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: who's still out there at thirty one years of age.

867
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: He only played those eight games for Carolina UM and

868
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: would you rather have Stefan Gilmore or Patrick Peterson. That's

869
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a good right now. So you know what,

870
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: Pat pe reminds me of Julio Jones in a way.

871
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: First off, they were both in the same class, they

872
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: both squared off against each other all those years in

873
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: the SEC, and they both had a recent falloff, almost

874
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: off a cliff of their physical skills. So that kind

875
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: of reminds me of that. Um, gotcha. Okay, So we're

876
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: finding out that locker rooms are going to be open

877
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: this year and so the media will be able to

878
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: interact with players actually at their lockers in person. Interesting,

879
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: I've never been in the locker room here because I

880
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: started this past season. Wow, that's that's see now that

881
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: hits home, doesn't it? No, it really does. I mean

882
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: it just it illustrates what COVID has done to all

883
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: of us in different ways. I mean, you know, so,

884
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's that's that's interesting. So Stephan going, what

885
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: about a Joe Hayden supposedly played some quality corner for

886
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: that Steelers defense. But he's thirty three years of age.

887
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a guy. He's at least a

888
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: guy who's proven you can count on him. I don't

889
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: know if they go that route. I'm just saying there

890
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: are some big names that are still out there, But again,

891
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: why are they out there. For the most part, they're

892
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: out there because they all think that they're worth a

893
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: lot more than people are showing to pay him. Yeah,

894
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that every person that you've mentioned

895
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: has had some kind of interest already until they go

896
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: back to the team and say, oh, we wouldn't mind

897
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: paying for you, this is what we're looking for, and

898
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, no, I don't think so. So a

899
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of these might be, you know, in may you know,

900
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: or they might even be time time signs when you

901
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: get near training camp for all we know. The other

902
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: guy I'll throw out there who would fill a need

903
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals domin con sue. Do the Cardinals

904
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: need a defensive tackle? Yes they do where they severely

905
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: burned on Jordan Phillips. Yes, they were eighteen and a

906
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: half million guaranteed for seventeen starts over two years by

907
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. In fact, if anyone's wondering if why, maybe

908
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: you know the Cardinals aren't as quick to touch that

909
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: hot stove like they were two years ago. Jordan Phillips

910
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: was that guy. You weren't wearing the oven mitt when

911
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: you went and grabbed Jordan Phillips and you got burned. Okay,

912
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: that's just the way that works. And Dominic con sue,

913
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: if you throw on the film from the playoff lost

914
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: to the Rams, he was the best player on Tampa's defense.

915
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean he was a wrecking ball. Now, how much

916
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: of that intensity and energy and resolver are you're gonna

917
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: get out a thirty five year old And Dominic and

918
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Sue snapped a snap. I think that's fair to wonder.

919
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: But you can't tell me if Corey Peters is not

920
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: back on this team, for example, and nobody expects him

921
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: to be. And what a great career by Corey Peters,

922
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: and what a locker room leader, Dominican sue. I mean

923
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: that you talk about a dude who will walk in

924
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: and command respect right away. It's a fascinating concept. Again,

925
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: what kind of money does he want? Right? And again

926
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm just trying. You know, it's back to the whole.

927
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: Everyone expected Steve Kind to pull the Ron Burgundy right

928
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: in the Anchorman movie and scream cannon ball off the

929
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: high dive. Well, that's not happening this offseason. This isn't

930
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: the hop, this isn't JJ Watt, It's not happening. So

931
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: what you realize is, I think he's playing the waiting game. Oh,

932
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you, so good. Think we pretty much

933
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: knew that right away. But I guess my follow up

934
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: question at this point is are some of these big

935
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: names still on the radar just at a much later date. Well,

936
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, for me again, it comes down to I mean,

937
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: one of the reasons John Abraham and back in the day,

938
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: John Abraham and Eric Winston signed on the first day

939
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: of training camp in twenty thirteen Steve Kime's first year's

940
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: GM is because they were super hoping that there'd be

941
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: a better offer somewhere along the way and it never

942
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: quite came. And if you're not going to get paid

943
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: a whole lot, you might as well wait to sign

944
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: until the last possible moment. Could I see some of

945
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean, we didn't bring them up because

946
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: he's not going to come here. But Tyron Matthews another

947
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: guy who I don't know if he's going to sign

948
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: for a long time. We haven't seen Klais Campbell sign

949
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: yet you know if you're and this is going to

950
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: be fascinating going into this offseason because if you know

951
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: you're not going to be playing for a lot, maybe

952
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: you do wait. Maybe you do wait. Off the draft,

953
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: there's already you know, people want to put it on

954
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: COVID and an old Cliff Kingsbury has brought up a

955
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: few times about missing off seasons and this will be

956
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: an offseason back. But JC tret Er, the the former

957
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: center for the Browns who's the player president of the NFLPA,

958
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: made it pretty clear last offseason that although COVID was

959
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: an issue in terms of last offseason and guys showing

960
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: up to offseason stuff, they also made it very clear

961
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of veterans who basically don't want

962
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: to go to the voluntary stuff anymore. They want to

963
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: train on their own. They'll show up to the mandatory

964
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: minicamp because they have to, but they're they players have

965
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: grown tired in a lot of ways to having to

966
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: show up to all this voluntary stuff. Wow, sounds like

967
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: the rest of America. How many people are quitting their

968
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: jobs because they have to show up back of the office.

969
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: They'd rather sit at home work remote in their pajamas.

970
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: But again the differences is the NFL does does has

971
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: no right to demand that the players show up. These

972
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: are voluntary workouts. All the players are saying is if

973
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: it's if it's voluntary, then it should be our choice

974
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: and it should not be held against us if we

975
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: don't show up. This is my long way of saying, like,

976
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: if you're a free agent and you don't know where

977
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: you're going to sign, why go through the rigamar role

978
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: of having to talk about whether I'm at voluntary stuff

979
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: or what I'll just wait to sign. What was that

980
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: word like that? I? Okay, there you go. Add that

981
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: to your repertoire. That isn't in the Texas handbook. That

982
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: isn't right there? Or along with y'all. I'm here to

983
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: mentor you, Danny. I can help you with all kinds

984
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: of good words. Are you sure you're from Texas? I

985
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: haven't heard you say y'all once? That's a lie, Paul.

986
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Have you have you heard her say y'all? I think

987
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: I actually are you sure about it? It's real quick though,

988
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: I need you. I need you to turn off that

989
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: light you just flashed me right? No, no, yeah, you've

990
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: heard me say, y'all, you're you're just get it tuning

991
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: me out. Well, I don't doubt that. Well, I have

992
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: poor hearing basically from twenty years of radio and wearing

993
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: these headsets. That's really That's what my wife would tell you. Well,

994
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: he didn't finish that thing. He's like, I've had poor

995
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: hearing for twenty years of radio down on the sidelines

996
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: of deafening stadiums. I get to stand every week, Well,

997
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: humberget no, no, humble bragged isn't here. It's not good. No.

998
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: As I get older, it's it's it's an absolute job hazard.

999
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about Do you know that? How many

1000
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: times that? For example, after a Seattle game and you

1001
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: have the sideline headsets on right, and it's sold out

1002
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: in that building, and then I'll go into the locker

1003
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: room do that to do the interviews, and I'll just

1004
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: go ahead and I'll put the headsets back on the

1005
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: volume at which the headset was on. That I realized

1006
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: once I'm in a locker room, I just spent three

1007
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: hours listening and broadcasting with a volume at eleven. What

1008
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: am I doing? So? Yeah, Well, we touched on briefly

1009
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: from the the NFL the owner's meetings happening in Florida

1010
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: with the now from locker rooms being opened. There was

1011
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: also another big change that we learned this morning coming

1012
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: from Florida. Okay, here we go. The overtime rules in

1013
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: the postseason. It's right have changed. It was approved twenty

1014
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: nine to three. So now in the postseason, both teams

1015
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: will absolutely get a chance to have the ball. It's

1016
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: not going to change in the regular season. So can

1017
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: I ask this is a question because I made my

1018
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: position on this very clear when it all happens, Yes,

1019
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: you ask me. I want to know what's the difference

1020
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: between a team not getting a chance to have the

1021
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: ball once and then the first time in a playoff game,

1022
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: one team scores a touchdown extra point, next team scores

1023
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown extra point, and the next team gets the

1024
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: ball back and then scores a touchdown or a field goal,

1025
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And then everybody says, well, that team

1026
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: got two possessions and this team only got one position.

1027
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: What's the difference. That's a good question, because I don't

1028
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. I am on the same

1029
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: side of you of to me, you are we got

1030
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: a hand up in the back my hands up and

1031
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: I answer that question. I won't. I'll talk after you.

1032
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: I won't directly answer it. Okay, I'll just go like, um,

1033
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, like one of these you know, presidential spokespeople

1034
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: right who just sort of you know, I have a

1035
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: talking point here. I'm just gonna throw out, go ahead, Okay.

1036
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Over the past decade, teams that won the overtime coin

1037
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: flip in the postseason. Yeah, we're ten and two twelve

1038
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: whole times. That's include the sample size, Paul, including seven

1039
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: of those ten wins coming on the opening possession that

1040
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: needed to be addressed when teams that won the overtime

1041
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: coin flip in the playoffs or ten and two, I

1042
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: understand luck as part of the game, and you might

1043
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: be upset about that. To me, this minimizes the importance

1044
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: of defense. That that's what that tells me. At least,

1045
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: Danny is my spirit animal. Oh gosh, I don't know

1046
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: if I want that title. Um, I'm just saying to me,

1047
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: that minimizes the importance of defense. Play defense absolutely. And

1048
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: wait a minute, didn't you just say the team that

1049
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: won the opening coin flip it was only seven out

1050
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: of twelve on the on the opening possession, which means

1051
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: the other team did get a possession and they still

1052
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't win. Yeah, so what the hell? Seven of the

1053
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: ten wins so the team that won the overtime coin

1054
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: flip in the playoffs, Yeah, ten and two, including seven

1055
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: of the ten wins, were on the opening possession. Right.

1056
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: That means three of the ten wins weren't on the

1057
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: opening possession, So the coin flip really didn't have anything

1058
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: to do with it. So that's seven out of twelve, right,

1059
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: barely over fifty percent. But both teams got a shot.

1060
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: It's like Matt Rules said after the owner's meeting, he said,

1061
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: you get a shot, I get a shot. May the

1062
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: best team wins going to completely change. So in overtime

1063
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: in the postseason, at least if you win the coin toss,

1064
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: you are receiving, right, So now it's okay if you're

1065
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: in the postseason. I'm also thinking maybe I don't because

1066
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: I want to see is osion the touchdown and the

1067
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: two point So now I know, so everything's going to change.

1068
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Let me just read real quick. This is from the

1069
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: NFL's twitter. The new rules for anyone who might not know,

1070
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: both teams will have the opportunity to possess the ball

1071
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: in overtime in the postseason, if the score is tied

1072
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: after each team has possessed the ball, the next score wins.

1073
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: If the team kicking off to start the overtime period

1074
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: scores of safety on the receiving team's initial possession, the

1075
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: team that kicked off is the winner. That's no different though,

1076
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: just explaining for those who might write seven out of

1077
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: twelve a tiny sample size and then barely over fifty percent,

1078
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: and that's why we change this rule. I get it,

1079
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't have a chance. It was a great game.

1080
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm don't whim at me because I'm

1081
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: not saying I'm on the opposing team from you, Darren.

1082
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying and also, is it just doing it in

1083
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: the postseason? Is that the happy medium? Well, supposedly, if

1084
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: you look at the data, Okay, over the regular season,

1085
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: it's been all most bigger sample size, the actual statistical

1086
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: sample size, it's been closer to fifty fifty, so it

1087
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: has been you know, I mean, and so that has

1088
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: not been as big a problem, or at least the

1089
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: perception of a problem doesn't exist in the regular season.

1090
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: And I say perception because Rich McKay, the president of

1091
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: the Falcons also chair of the competition committee, did say yes,

1092
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: the outcome of the Casey Buffalo game influenced opinion in

1093
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: the room with the decision makers. He admitted that because

1094
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: Casey won the toss, they scored the touchdown and Buffalo

1095
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: never touched the football. And here would be my only

1096
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: response to your to your your premise, Darren, And I

1097
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: know you're adamant about this, but if you get two

1098
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: teams and their two strengths or offense, offense and more offense,

1099
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: then one team getting a chance to flex their strength

1100
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: and the other team not getting a chance to go

1101
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: ahead and flex their strength, you know that seems inherently unfair.

1102
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: If you have two teams coming in who average fifty

1103
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: points a game and have no defense, then all of

1104
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: a sudden, you give one team the ball and the

1105
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: other team doesn't get the ball. How was that? And

1106
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: you don't deserve to win. It's a team game. You

1107
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: don't just win on offense. And by the way, do

1108
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: we not talk about that all season? Pall? How not

1109
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: only were the Cardinals offense scoring, but their defense was

1110
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: keeping the lead. For that Can I just say this too, Sorry, Paul.

1111
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: Normally I don't like to yell at you with Darren

1112
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: a team up against you, but I just can't help it.

1113
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: She's almost across the table. Did I miss something? Does

1114
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: overtime happen as they come out of the locker room

1115
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: in the morning, No, they just played sixty minutes. You

1116
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: just had sixty minutes. Well, okay. The other way to

1117
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: go about this, and I honestly would be on board

1118
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: this is it comes with your home field advantage. That

1119
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: part of the home field advantage is if the game

1120
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: goes to overtime, thou shalt receive the opening possession and

1121
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: the postseason, that's part of your home field advantage. I

1122
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,479
Speaker 1: don't it's as if you won the coin toss before

1123
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: the game. Ever, I don't. I don't hate that, But

1124
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: what's the hell's the difference between that and a coin toss?

1125
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: But now now it's been deemed something you earned based

1126
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: on earning home field advantage versus just being rewarded by

1127
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: locker chance. That that's the point, that's part of the

1128
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: home field advantage. Has will never ever like this topic.

1129
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: It just drives me, and honestly I wouldn't. I would

1130
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: not be opposed to that, because anything that gives more

1131
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: credence to the regular season I'm on board with. And

1132
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: so if you know, it makes it all that much

1133
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: more important to earn home field Advanage Falcons lost the

1134
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl because of this, and nobody changed the rules.

1135
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: The Chiefs lost in the playoff game. Nobody changed rules

1136
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: because we have a bunch of whiny Bills fans. Well

1137
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I mean the Falcons also blew a twenty

1138
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: eight to three league. Oh so now there's like way

1139
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa. Well, you don't get

1140
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: to do that. You don't get to say, but there's

1141
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: the way you got to Overtime should factor in. But

1142
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: hang on, there's a difference between you're blowing a twenty

1143
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: eight three lead and losing the Super Bowl and the

1144
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: way Josh Allen didn't they like score on seven or

1145
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: the Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

1146
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm and I'm truly asking this because I don't

1147
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: totally remember. Am I incorrect in saying that somehow the

1148
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs got a field goal with sixteen seconds left on

1149
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: the clock that the Bills gave up to even get

1150
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: to overtime? Did that happen? Yeah? Is that worse than

1151
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: blowing at twenty eight to three lead? It might be

1152
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: worse than blowing up at twenty three when you're kicking

1153
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: off with fifteen seconds left and you give up a

1154
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: field goal. So don't tell me they didn't have a

1155
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: chance to win, and you kick and you kick it

1156
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: out of the end zone, so they come out, you know,

1157
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: to the twenty five when you could have kicked it

1158
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: inside the five and run time off the clock. So

1159
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: you get riled up over a football game that months ago. Yeah, there, there,

1160
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: There are plenty of aspects. So there you go. Let's

1161
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: talk about going to Nashville, Paul. That's right, that's right.

1162
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: That's the other news coming out this week. Won't be

1163
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: the first time, Darren, that you've gone to Nashville in

1164
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: the preseason two thousand and ten, and that was that

1165
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: was That was the week, or at least the half week,

1166
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: whatever it was where Matt Leinert went from future franchise

1167
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: quarterback to afterthought. Yes, because and that was the week

1168
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: he was angry about it. Yes, I remember talking to

1169
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: him in the lobby of the hotel that we're staying,

1170
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: remember we did that, and this this is a true story, Danny,

1171
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: Matt Liner, this is this is two thousand. Next time

1172
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell hi a false story, but this is a truth. Now,

1173
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner had retired, so Matt Leiner ostensibly is the

1174
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: quarterback of the future. They had taken him number ten

1175
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: overall early a few years earlier. Okay, But then all

1176
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Derek Anderson came out in the first

1177
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: team session of practice that week at UM at Vanderbilt,

1178
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: and he was running first team, and everyone's like, wait

1179
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: a minute, what's going on here. What was very interesting

1180
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: was a young reporter by the name of Rachel Nichols

1181
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: was there from ESPN doing a story, a sidebar sort

1182
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: of humanitarian story. I'm a member the Cardinals whose name

1183
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: I cannot remember now. How was that And because he

1184
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: had they end up going to the White House maybe

1185
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: something like that. And so she was doing a story

1186
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: and the ESPN cameras were there and she walked off

1187
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: after warmups because she had got what she needed the

1188
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: interview and the b roll and all that stuff, and

1189
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: she walked off and we're like, Rachel, you might want

1190
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: to turn around because the Cardinals are starting a brand

1191
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: new quarterback and the Matt Leiner and era is over

1192
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: before it ever started. Well, they never got that story.

1193
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: And then later after practice, Matt Lener met the media

1194
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: in the hotel sort of a rogue interview on his own,

1195
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: which he really should not have done because you talk

1196
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: about scorched earth and I remember us standing there and

1197
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: it was a small group of media. Darren, you were there.

1198
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: I was there. There are a few other reporters there

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: and we're literally sort of shaking her head, Matt, don't

1200
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: do it. Don't say it. Sleep on the news. Please

1201
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: sleep on the news. Don't do it. You don't know

1202
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: what you're saying. He took a few shots at the

1203
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: head coach Ken Wizzon Hunt and it was done. Yeah,

1204
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: that was quite memorable. I feel like I want to

1205
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: say the first practice of the week was the joint practice.

1206
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: I think they might have only done one joint practice

1207
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: and then they had the next one at Vanderbilt or

1208
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: something like that. Um or maybe they had two and

1209
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: then the last one wasn't bandy, but um. Yeah, that

1210
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: was the beginning of the end for Matt Liners. But

1211
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: that was say it was that the meetings this week

1212
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: that Titans head coach Rabel said he was the one

1213
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: who dropped the news that there's going to be a

1214
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: joint I guess play against other joint practice, whatever it

1215
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: might be with the Cardinals. Yeah, we kind of buried that,

1216
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: didn't we sne so deep we forgot about NFL insider

1217
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel broke the news. Yes, yes he did. Yeah,

1218
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: so I guess we're going to Nashville. So the week

1219
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: three of the preseason. By the way, according to Rabel,

1220
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: he got specific. I didn't see Week three of the preseason.

1221
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals and Titans will play in practice either before or

1222
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: after said game. Because what happened the last time was

1223
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: in those days there were four preseason games. Um, the

1224
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: Cardinals played Tennessee, then practiced against Tennessee, and then flew

1225
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: Chicago and played the Bears in a preseason game. You know,

1226
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: it's only the third game of the preseason. So, um,

1227
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't that year though, that was the next time.

1228
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: Um and uh, and so I would assume it would

1229
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: be some kind of uh deal in that regard um

1230
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: the Cardinals because of the seventeen game season. Of course,

1231
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: everybody only has three preseason games because the NFC team

1232
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: gets the quote unquote extra home game this year. Uh,

1233
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: the NFC teams are going to be having the extra

1234
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: one extra road preseason game out of three. So the

1235
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals will have a road preseason game in Tennessee. It

1236
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: looks like, and then I don't know what's going to

1237
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: happen with their other two preseason games. We'll find them

1238
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: out in mid May. What's it gonna take for me

1239
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: to get you on stage at a country bar on

1240
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: Broadway in Nashville singing Chris Stapleton. If Chris Stapleton is there,

1241
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: I'll be there. I'm a Chris Stapleton guy. If he's

1242
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: up there, I'll jump up there. I don't know who

1243
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, I'm not a big country even coming

1244
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: from Texas. I've never owned cowboy, but it's not a

1245
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: big country. MS. Don't say y'all. I do say y'all.

1246
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: You just tuned me out past about one of his songs?

1247
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: Will you just sing one of his songs? Well? I

1248
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: sing one of his songs? Come on? Well, it depends.

1249
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: If Darren's ye, it'll be a hefty bill. But if

1250
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm singing, believe me, he'll rue the day that you

1251
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: guys put me on stage, because what'll take to give

1252
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: me on stage will be a serious expenditure. This is

1253
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: what I was told. There is a there's a restaurant

1254
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: on Broadway on the main strip there that was new

1255
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: when we went there this past regular season that I

1256
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't remember before. And I believe that Larry Fitzgerald is

1257
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: a investor slash co owner. Oh, you guys know him.

1258
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: We got an easy in. It's a restaurant, though it's

1259
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: not one of the bars. No, we'll get the good table. Well,

1260
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Vanenbosch will set us up. The former Tennessee Titan

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Speaker 1: member of the Cardinals broadcast Dave McGinnis. Dave McGinnis for

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Speaker 1: a good time. We had McGinnis in the booth in

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Speaker 1: week one. In the pregame show, he kept calling itash Vegas.

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Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta track down Mac for a folk

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Speaker 1: tales for By the way, KVB. You know the former Titan,

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Speaker 1: former cardinal on the Red Seat report this week. He

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Speaker 1: told some good stuff, some good stories about when they

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Speaker 1: would do the joint practices. And now Jeff Fisher than

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Speaker 1: the Titans s head coach. We're not going seven and nine.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher uh and how we say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're not out here to fight, but we're not taking

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Speaker 1: any stuff from these guys either, dot dot dot, and

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Speaker 1: hence there were a lot of fights when the two

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Speaker 1: joint practices happen. So we'll see what exactly is the case.

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and Cliff Kingsbury obviously go back to their

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Speaker 1: Patriots days when they were teammates. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: remember seeing any joint practices that doesn't end up in

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Speaker 1: some kind of fights. And I'm not just talking about

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I mean every every Yeah, it's inevitable, although

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Speaker 1: the ones in twenty ten I don't remember it getting

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Speaker 1: out of hand. I think there was some shoving. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there were any hands throwing it. And I

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Speaker 1: don't even remember if there was anything in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: when the Cardinals did the joint stuff with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: But that was also the one where Bruce Arians got

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Speaker 1: sick and oh that's right, kind of put everybody aside

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean that was a moment We're

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Speaker 1: doing a live big red rage from the booth at

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Speaker 1: the stadium, and then there's a stretcher taking the head

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Speaker 1: coach off the field. That was a sobering moment. And

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Speaker 1: then a day later he was meeting the media and thankfully,

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Speaker 1: you know, everything was okay. But we'll have a special

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Speaker 1: underground podcast. Was just talking about all the times we've

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Speaker 1: had joint practice. That's right, will be number what four

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Speaker 1: for me? But you know what, if you're Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it make sense? What's the old suns? The sun

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Speaker 1: sue saying right about ancient war? Was no your enemy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, after if you're Mike Vrabel and you came

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Speaker 1: out a week one a year ago and got jack

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Speaker 1: stomped by the Arizona Cardinals, you know what, why not

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Speaker 1: keep our friends close and our enemies closer. Hey, Cliff,

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Speaker 1: you want to come in for some joint practices and

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Speaker 1: make sure we're ready to start this year because obviously

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Speaker 1: we weren't ready to start last year. That's where I

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Speaker 1: hang out with Darren. Friend close, enemies closed. Oh, I see,

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Speaker 1: didn't see where you were going with that, and now

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Speaker 1: you're no longer my spirit item. I figured i'd let

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Speaker 1: her finish that sentence, and I didn't know where that

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Speaker 1: was going. I didn't jump in. She just took the

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Speaker 1: softball and she turned on. It's like four hundred feet

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Speaker 1: away now right, that's right, so you know, kept her

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Speaker 1: hands back, waited till the ball was in the zone,

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Speaker 1: and turned on explored. That's good. So all right, well

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Speaker 1: you know, um, that was a super size one right here.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what the humidity factor is like in Tennessee

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Speaker 1: in mid August. Already he's whining about what's gonna be like.

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Speaker 1: It was nice actually the last time we were there.

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Speaker 1: That's though. I was back in the day um when

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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley was putting the full into former full back

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Speaker 1: and really he was pushing two seventy and and here's

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Speaker 1: another little quick anecdote and then I'm done. My my

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Speaker 1: work is done here. And there was actually an Adrian

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Speaker 1: Wilson cut from one of the Big Red Rages. We

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Speaker 1: might play this week on the Big Red Rage, because

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Speaker 1: he came on and he ripped Wolf and the overall

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Speaker 1: barbecue consumption and Wolf, They're literally we went there every

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Speaker 1: single day for four straight days. One day we went

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Speaker 1: for lunch and dinner to this one barbecue joint and

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Speaker 1: we were sitting there and since Wolf was done, ordering like,

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Speaker 1: give me two scoops of that and two scales, sort

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Speaker 1: of this buffet style. He ordered the family platter, he

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Speaker 1: literally for himself, just for himself. And the look on

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Speaker 1: a dub's face when he came through the front door

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Speaker 1: and he's in line and he's looking the seating area

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Speaker 1: and he looked at Wolf and then I'm gonna date myself.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get this, Danny. He kind of gave

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Speaker 1: the John Belushi one eyebrow straight up and looked at

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Speaker 1: Wolf's plate with this wide eye, like Wolf, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing to yourself? And so, uh, yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: That was one of my recollections from from that From

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Speaker 1: that trip, I'm trying to I don't remember much else

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Speaker 1: about that trip. I remember our jim Momhandro said. The

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Speaker 1: quote was Adrian Wilson called Wolf's appetite. He's a human

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Speaker 1: garbage disposal. Human garbage disposal was the Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: the quote having some problems talking because I had major

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Speaker 1: dental work yesterday. So you know, as if I don't

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Speaker 1: already have problems talking now, I have a real degree

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Speaker 1: of difficulty over here. I need to just stifle myself.

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Speaker 1: That does nowhere to go with that. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to comment on Paul's dental work. I was going to

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Speaker 1: say something I chose not, Oh you're so nice, dear.

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Speaker 1: Let's people say that about ten minutes about overtime roles

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Speaker 1: the dentist. I go to h I love him. He's

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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. He's also a big time

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Speaker 1: car restorer. And at one point, I'm like, are you

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Speaker 1: using the drill from your garage? Or is this is

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Speaker 1: that from where you're from the dental equipment here? What

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Speaker 1: is going on? Because this is getting out of hand?

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Speaker 1: Anything else we missed on this edition of Cardinal's Underground.

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolou at this point, is wondering what else was

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Speaker 1: on the docket that we wanted to talk about. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about your dental work. I don't think. I think

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Speaker 1: we're out of stuff, but I guess. So draft this

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Speaker 1: year's in Vegas, draft, next years in Kansas City, and

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Speaker 1: then Detroit, which is also going to be the team

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Speaker 1: featured on HBO's Hard Knocks. Yes, that's been about her.

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Speaker 1: So me and Paul are going to go home to Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and wow, I did not see that. Wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: The next three drafts have been decided. Next three drafts

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Speaker 1: right this month and then we hear that, and then

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Kansas City, and then Detroit, Detroit, and Detroit's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on Hard Knocks this year during training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's the team they're falling. Yeah, Dan Campbell will be

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Speaker 1: good TV. That'll be good. That'll be good TV. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who are some of the other

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Speaker 1: personalities though on that team. There's the head coach and

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Speaker 1: then yeah, okay that's uh, I can't help you there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well okay, Dan Campbell, you better be on you better

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Speaker 1: be on on points. Yeah, so okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it. For this edition of Cardinals Underground brought

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