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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with the Nongler and Dared

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<v Speaker 1>Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going On Suck Army.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back for an all new end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year episode for help I Suck at Dating. We are

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<v Speaker 1>so happy to have you here. Uh, so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be here speaking to you, with you guys, to you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to say. Uh, Jared, what's going on? Man? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's a holiday season, brother, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>you love being honest. We're recording this before Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't ask you how your Christmas went? But Jared, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think your Christmas is gonna go? Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and maybe like peer into the future a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do you think it's gonna go? Hopefully well

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<v Speaker 1>and healthy. Uh, it's a different Christmas everybody's experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>this man. We're you know the family. Usually we get

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<v Speaker 1>together with you know, a bunch of different people on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to my cousins for Christmas even usually there's

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<v Speaker 1>like ten or fifteen people there. And then Christmas Day

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<v Speaker 1>will come and my grandfather will come over, my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, my brother in law. Uh, and then Christmas night,

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<v Speaker 1>my cousins will come over, so we see Usually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty to thirty people throughout the two days and

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<v Speaker 1>then unfortunately we're just not doing that this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to get together a very small group.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just gonna be my parents, uh, me, Ashley, and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister. My brother in law is actually in the

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Guard and he's serving overseas right now. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>he just left a few weeks ago, so he's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be back until next November. So it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a small dinner, the five of us. But everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>going through right now. Quarantine's quarantine birthdays all around. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you brother get the vaccine? No? Um, So my dad

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<v Speaker 1>is actually getting the vaccine soon because he works in

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<v Speaker 1>the correctional facility and so he's actually getting vaccinated I

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<v Speaker 1>think in like forty five minutes um, which is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ashley's dad is a doctor down in Virginia. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an anesthe geologist and he's in his sixties, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the first to get vaccinated. He got

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<v Speaker 1>vaccinated last week and uh, you know, he feels fine

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets his second dose in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and then my dad gets vaccinated tonight. They both

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<v Speaker 1>got the Fiser one, uh not the Maderner one. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, man, it's crazy to think that, like, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, we have a COVID vaccine and it's being

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<v Speaker 1>distributed and people are getting uh vaccinated. It's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been a surreal, surreal ten months. And certainly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>social distancing and mass wearing isn't gonna be over for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time. But in terms of Christmas, that's our

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<v Speaker 1>plans right now. What about you? Man, Well, let me

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<v Speaker 1>check my Fiser stock real quick now that we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the topic. It's our it's too late for that. He

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<v Speaker 1>should have got into that bar april. May you have

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<v Speaker 1>made something down since I first bought it. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a bummer. Um, well, that's good that they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>their uh their vaccines. It's I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been falling too closely, but I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a new strand or something that's coming out too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're saying there's a new strand over the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are we gonna do? Like at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just everybody's trying to do the best we can.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know if it's going to affect the vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>or not. It's still up in the air. How contagious

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<v Speaker 1>this new strain is? What the new strain is? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is the vaccine not going to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>work against it. It's just exhausting for everybody out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully, dude, we just get out of this sooner

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<v Speaker 1>rather than litter and we can all. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it the other day because I was a the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store and you know, I'm still super nervous to

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<v Speaker 1>just be within a few feet of anyone, So walking

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<v Speaker 1>past people on aisles, I'm like trying to turn the

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<v Speaker 1>other way, keep my distance, and I'm like, man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the way life is supposed to be. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so mentally draining and for everybody out there, just constantly

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<v Speaker 1>being on and constantly trying to just be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>your surroundings, and truthfully, for me, like being scared of everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm scared to come within a few feet

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<v Speaker 1>of anybody, even if they're wearing masks. It's like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>this is depressing. Yeah, you are a bit of a hypochondriac,

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<v Speaker 1>though maybe a little bit, just just a tiny bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean. Back in March and April,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was on my side when I was like washed

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<v Speaker 1>down the groceries. Let's not converse with anybody. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>things have changed since ing I watched this. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this TikTok today. That was like, what was something that

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing pre COVID that you can't even imagine doing now?

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<v Speaker 1>And this girl was like, think about how we when

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<v Speaker 1>we used to go bowling, we would stick our fingers

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<v Speaker 1>in these little holes and with multiple times that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else is touching, and then we would eat these this

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<v Speaker 1>finger food and just like suck on our fingers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the chicken wings and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine doing that now, Like, that's just disgusting. It's eve.

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<v Speaker 1>I went bowling in January, so I went bowling when

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<v Speaker 1>COVID was in the state. That's pretty I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those obviously, right, It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that's already disgusting and you don't think about how discussing

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<v Speaker 1>it is and then you know you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>some hinds. But I'm the type of guy. I always

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<v Speaker 1>brought sanitizer with me or I would if like my thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I was aware, you know, so if my fingers had

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<v Speaker 1>been in a bowling ball, I would make sure I

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<v Speaker 1>wash my hands before I ate something, which means I

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy who would go to the bathroom like

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<v Speaker 1>five or six times throughout the night, not because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to take a pissed but because I just needed

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<v Speaker 1>to wash my hands. Because, like you said, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>hypo contract. But you know what, how's your Christmas? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Calin and I are actually gonna go get tested here

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<v Speaker 1>pretty soon because we are going to be getting on

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<v Speaker 1>an airplane and flying to Bozeman, Montana to see my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. Both my brothers are gonna be there and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, and we don't really get many opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>all get together and just kind of with I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why or how, but this year everyone is around,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess we have the ability to all get

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<v Speaker 1>to the same location, which is Boseman, Montana. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna take that opportunity to kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>each other. But yeah, like I said, we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>tested before we leave just to make sure everything checks out.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sense, I got tested. I mean I haven't flown

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, but I got tested on Sunday just

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<v Speaker 1>for I mean it's free, and you know, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be around even like a couple of people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like for peace of mind, I'd rather know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the worst part about it is just waiting

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<v Speaker 1>in line, which is not even that bad depending on

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<v Speaker 1>where you go. I don't know if that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part. The worst part is when it goes

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up to your brain. I'd say that's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not the best I got. I got tested once, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I had like too many Bookers in

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<v Speaker 1>my nose or something because if they like shoved the

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<v Speaker 1>Burger Bookers further up my nose. And it was because

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<v Speaker 1>it was maybe my third time getting tested. The second

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<v Speaker 1>time getting tested. The first time was fine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's uncomfortable, but like whatever, it was a clean

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<v Speaker 1>swap up into the brain. But the second time they

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<v Speaker 1>like shoved all my Bookers up even further up into

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<v Speaker 1>my nose. It was the worst possible experience. Um. When

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<v Speaker 1>I went this last time, the doctor was like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want a self ad minister, And I was like no,

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<v Speaker 1>if I do it, like I'm gonna barely go up

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<v Speaker 1>in the nose before my nose hairs start tickling. Just

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<v Speaker 1>do it, shove it up there, and then I'm such

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<v Speaker 1>a drama queen, like I cough, So I have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my mask on because it's just involuntary obviously. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it goes all the way up to the back

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<v Speaker 1>of my nose, I'm like, yeah, there is zero posent

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<v Speaker 1>chance I can self administer. I got I broke my

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<v Speaker 1>nose once when I was in high school and they

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<v Speaker 1>put these like big plastic extens up in my nose

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<v Speaker 1>and then I don't know if you ever broke your nose,

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<v Speaker 1>but when they then when they pull them out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the most insane feeling like they feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>literally feels like they're excavating your brain through your nose. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so ever since then, I've kind of like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you can kind of I guess, But all right,

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<v Speaker 1>enough nose talking. What did you get? Are you done

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas shopping? You've got anything else? Did you get Caroling

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<v Speaker 1>a gift? Um? Yeah I did. I'm not getting anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else any gifts. I I think I've I've got my

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<v Speaker 1>brothers and sister gifts so many times, and they always

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<v Speaker 1>just seem so ungrateful. I know, I'm sure that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not ungrateful, but I just they don't really ever seem

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about the things that I get them, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of given up. Are they annoyed because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get anything in return? I've been yelled at

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<v Speaker 1>numerous times throughout my adulthood because I'll get my cousins

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<v Speaker 1>gifts without telling them that I'm getting them something, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they get piste off at me because I give

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<v Speaker 1>them the gift and they didn't give me a gift

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't think we were exchanging. So even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the gift giver, I end up being the asshole

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<v Speaker 1>in the case. Yeah, that's I don't know if they've

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<v Speaker 1>never verbally expressed it, but they seem pretty content with

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of me getting them something and them not

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<v Speaker 1>giving me anything back in return. But also it's like, what, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need them to get me anything. What are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to give me that I don't already like

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<v Speaker 1>the same with Kaylin. It's like, Kylen can't really get

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<v Speaker 1>me anything because I already have everything I already wants.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part mineus, like a like a muscle

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<v Speaker 1>car or something like that. I don't know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a muscle car for Christmas? That's nice, it would be nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna get? I don't know. So Ash

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<v Speaker 1>and I talked about how we don't want to exchange

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<v Speaker 1>two months too much. Um. It is funny when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about buying gifts for people as adults, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what the best gift of all is keeping your money. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's like, you know, cousins and and brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna get you a little knickknacks and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but nothing too big. But Ash and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about what we're gonna get each other, how much

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna spend on each other. And so she got

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<v Speaker 1>me two things and she said she didn't spend more

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<v Speaker 1>than a couple hundred dollars, So I'm not spending more

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<v Speaker 1>than a couple hundred dollars. Um. And I got her

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<v Speaker 1>like some small, fun, thoughtful gifts. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I just I always underwhelmed with gifts. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell us because this is an air until after Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>And she definitely doesn't listen to the podcast. I got

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<v Speaker 1>her like so, I got our Harry Styles candle, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought it was a cute gift because she's

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with Harry Styles, and I figured, you know, i'd

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<v Speaker 1>give her a candle with the picture of a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>man on there to show my you know, security within

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship and as a man, even though I feel

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<v Speaker 1>quite inferior to Harry Styles obviously. Uh. What else? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got her a shirt with young Leonardo Dicapro and

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<v Speaker 1>Mark wahlbark on there, because she's obsessed with both men,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a picture of them. I forget a movie

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<v Speaker 1>they were in together, but they were in a movie

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<v Speaker 1>when they were like teenagers, so it's a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>them very young. I forget. That'd be cute. I got

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<v Speaker 1>her so last year I got her Mickey and mini

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<v Speaker 1>snow globe and it's a really nice snow globe and

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta personalize with our wedding data on their August eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>two thou nineteen. And of course, what happened a few

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<v Speaker 1>months later she broke it. It was accidental, she was

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<v Speaker 1>dusting off the top of the counter. It fell down,

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<v Speaker 1>shattered it everywhere. So I ended up going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the same store getting this name snow globe. But instead

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<v Speaker 1>of getting just inscribed our wedding day, I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>mug in there that says you are my favorite person.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, huh, I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>her a mug, but I really like that. So on

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<v Speaker 1>the Mickey and Miney snow globe, I got it inscribed

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<v Speaker 1>on the front saying you are my favorite person August eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen. Dean, don't get jealous, you're a close second.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought that'd be a nice gift. Uh. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I got her. You know, I got some personal gifts

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<v Speaker 1>after that. Then I'm not going to talk about on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, but you know, talk about it. Why not

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<v Speaker 1>some stuck army. Yeah, I guess that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lingerie, you know. Yeah, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a little gift for both her and I.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that more of a gift for

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<v Speaker 1>her for you, a little bit of both, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it by say you were trying to have a

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<v Speaker 1>kid us more detail here. I'm a lace type guy.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite our thigh highs, as we've talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast before. But I'm A big fan of black

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<v Speaker 1>lace with THI highs because there's a few things better

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<v Speaker 1>in this world than that. I'm not like sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Sometimes landre can get like a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much. There's like holes in different places and and

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<v Speaker 1>like like little secret trap doors, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know, I don't need all this, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you like the basic Lingreie then, but yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>a basic good black lace with THI highs is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple benny? What was that? Multile benny? Isn't that very good?

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<v Speaker 1>At Italian? I don't know. I don't speak Italian. I

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<v Speaker 1>went there once. That's that's nice, man, I'm sure she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love it. I hope you got to choose some

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<v Speaker 1>Lingrei too, so you guys can wear your lingdreds together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I did chipping Dale's, she bought me

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of boxers with like a bow tie in

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<v Speaker 1>the front, so it made it look like a tuxedo

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<v Speaker 1>on where you know the man parts are. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was nice. So I have yet, have you ever? I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, so you have not wanted them? For

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<v Speaker 1>they're quite uncomfortable. They're very tight because they're meant to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really emphasize that part of the party to

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<v Speaker 1>make it like, you know, look, maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than it actually is, t m im. But whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So they're really not the most comfortable boxers. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say they're me Andy's. But I did try them once,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like it was too laughable. It couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get in the mood. And you know, you're like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like a joke. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>too laughable? Well, because like it's different when a girl

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<v Speaker 1>dresses up, that's sexy, when a guy dresses up it's

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<v Speaker 1>from I don't know, maybe it's just because I'm attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to women. But like when I when like I put

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<v Speaker 1>boxes on like that or like a bow tie, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I look like a jackass. Like nobody's sexually aroused by

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<v Speaker 1>me wearing this. I mean, hey, have you never dressed

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<v Speaker 1>you know? No, I've never dressed up. I would never.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never do that. But listen, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>different strokes for different folks. Some people are in that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. Sounds like you are into it once

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<v Speaker 1>you once you're alright, you'll you'll get used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to have a baby. You know, we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out different different ways too. I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that I was already married. Wait wait wait, wait

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<v Speaker 1>back up a second. I know you guys are I

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<v Speaker 1>know Ashley is quote unquote off the pill for her

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<v Speaker 1>instagram post um. But what's the update on the baby situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys still trying to have a baby? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Uh? Yeah, so we're trying. We're actively trying.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a couple of months in. Um. Yeah. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>funny when you know you're you're trying to have a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and like every month it's like all right, we're like

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<v Speaker 1>is there a baby in there? Is this the month? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I don't know, I guess you're never ready

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<v Speaker 1>for to have kids. I feel like I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be a father. I feel like Ashley is ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be a mom. I want to have kids. But it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I always get, you know, when she's like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking the test today, it's like, oh Jesus, are we

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this? Is this actually happened? Are we bad parents?

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<v Speaker 1>How does this work? Do you keep track of? Like

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<v Speaker 1>the ovulation cycle? So she she has like the Ava bracelet.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got apps and books. She's you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best traits of Ashley is that when she does something,

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<v Speaker 1>she does a hundred and ten percent, no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>it is in life. Uh, and trying to have kids

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<v Speaker 1>is no different. She's she's she's really good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like, all right, let's just do it and

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. She's like, we need to do it

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<v Speaker 1>on this day, on this hour. This is my peak.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to you know, two days before, two

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<v Speaker 1>days afterwards, and then you know, I drink this or

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<v Speaker 1>do that or eat that. And she just like got

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<v Speaker 1>it down to a science. Are you doing anything specific

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<v Speaker 1>to help increase your chances? Yeah, that's a negative. You

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes I uh uh, you know, after she's pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when my big you know, I'll be the support

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<v Speaker 1>of the supportive guy. Now, like, what am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I need to like, you know, I literally

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<v Speaker 1>have like forty five seconds of work into this, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I have to do. It's so funny because she's

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about it and she's like, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>the pressures on you because you need to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deliver in the moment just to you know, because but like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, if if they were married, forty five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds listen the reason I bring up forty five seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. So if you're married, or if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been with someone for quite some quite a while, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, it's not like every five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can just make love and it's as easy

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. And especially when you're trying to have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's like, Okay, we need to have sex now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, like, I just we just had a

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<v Speaker 1>big prime rib and I just said it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>brownie and I am not in the mood. So you

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<v Speaker 1>just need to like be like, all right, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>get in the mood because this is like her prime

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<v Speaker 1>and so let's do it. And so sometimes it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I don't want to call it work because it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but like sometimes you want to get it done as

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as possible. So it's like, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>numbers game at this point. You guys are just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to play the odds exactly. You know, we're just throwing

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we can against the wall and just

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully one of them sticks. Uh So that was a

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<v Speaker 1>bad choice of words right there, within the context of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. But you know, so sometimes it's like all right, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>come on now, like you can do this, like focus,

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<v Speaker 1>you got you know, you can get this in your prime.

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<v Speaker 1>It took you like fifteen seconds. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just channel that energy. I think that there are things

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<v Speaker 1>that men can do to increase their sperm count, like

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a lot, not for a fact, but

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, uh, like cowboys have a higher sperm count

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't wear boxers. Like the folder. The further

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<v Speaker 1>away from your body, you can keep the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing where the seaman are stored because he kills them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if they're like not hugged up against your body,

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<v Speaker 1>they they perform better, I guess. But so that's all

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I'm sure you already know. Yes, but that

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<v Speaker 1>makes me nervous. And do you have you always worn

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<v Speaker 1>boxer breeze? No? I hate I hate boxers, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't wear boxers. So you're at your commando, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a command I'm a cowboy. Yeah, So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do when you have jeans on? Just just just grip

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<v Speaker 1>my teeth and get through it. That's terrible, that seems

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<v Speaker 1>so painful. That's why you're hard pressed to find me

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a pair of jeans, I think is why. Um

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<v Speaker 1>but Jared, listen, man, good luck. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen when it's supposed to happen, right, Like, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>we can really say. And I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's God's hands now. And you and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what I want to say something. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>being so open and forth right about this too. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a sensitive topic. I know sometimes it can

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to talk about, but I just appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>fourth right nows there. So I appreciate especially like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like three or four years ago, I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>more uh close to the chest about it. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that I've married Ashley and she just puts everything out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've become more and more like her as we've

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<v Speaker 1>been together longer and longer, where I'm just like, screw it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just talk about it. I love it. I love it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break. We have a great

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<v Speaker 1>guest coming up for you guys. His name is Garrett Mercantile.

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<v Speaker 1>He is from Twelve Dates of Christmas, airing on HBO

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<v Speaker 1>Max Uh. He is one of the three leads of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and we're excited to hear from him and

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<v Speaker 1>jump into a little bit more about the show because

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<v Speaker 1>there's some uh, some similarities to The Bachelor. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>nuance is that we're familiar with and something that we

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<v Speaker 1>aren't with familiar with. So we're gonna take one quick

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<v Speaker 1>break and then we're going to jump right into speaking

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<v Speaker 1>with Garretts of Stay tuned for that. We have Robin

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<v Speaker 1>Rain's VP of matchmaking at three Day Rule, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a matchmaking website. So Robin, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. Hi, thank you for having me. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>can you explain what Three Day Rule is and how

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<v Speaker 1>it differs from traditional dating apps and websites because I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of my friends and even back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I was always on Tinder and now we

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<v Speaker 1>have Bumble and we have so many different things going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now, it's hard to keep up with what

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<v Speaker 1>to do and what's best. Three Day Rule is a

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<v Speaker 1>modern matchmaking company, so we work with clients all over

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<v Speaker 1>the US who basically come to us because they are

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<v Speaker 1>too busy to waste times wiping and going on bad dates.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a lot of guys who, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have any troubled getting dates. They probably could

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<v Speaker 1>go on dates every night of the week if they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to. But they get there and very often they

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<v Speaker 1>know within five minutes that this date is not for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we want to save them a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that time, a lot of that frustration. So they sort

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<v Speaker 1>of outsource their love lives to us, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>just queue up the best of the best for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Tory will probably sign up a might maker.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd love to match you. So where can everyone find you?

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<v Speaker 1>And also can people request for you to be their matchmaker?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work? Yeah, so I am one of

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<v Speaker 1>those matchmaker of matchmakers, So I do am one of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that meets everybody who comes through our door.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a few of me on the team. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to our website and sign up, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just three day rule dot com. Um you create that

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<v Speaker 1>private profile, it takes like two minutes and then um

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<v Speaker 1>you will be assigned to one of the matchmaker of

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<v Speaker 1>matchmakers on our team and they'll schedule the meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>you and then if you end up deciding that this

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<v Speaker 1>is something you want to do, she'll pair you with

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<v Speaker 1>one of the matchmakers on our team. So again, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are interested in the matchmaking service, go to

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<v Speaker 1>three Day Rule dot com slash page spur Rannick. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to help I Suck a Dating. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a very special guests on the line right now. You

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<v Speaker 1>have seen him from the brand new HBO MAC series

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve Dates of Christmas. It is Garrett Mark. And Tell Garrett,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us. Man, welcome to help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>a Dating. Thank you. I'm I'm excited to hear what

0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>questions you guys have for a gay man. Listen. We're

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<v Speaker 1>excited to ask you some questions too. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out so before before we had Garrett call in

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<v Speaker 1>to join us on Help by Second Dating, I creep

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<v Speaker 1>his Instagram a little bit, and the listeners, I'm sure

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.439
<v Speaker 1>you can tell in his voice, but Garrett is an

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>incredibly attractive man. Uh. And I've got a lot of

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.360
<v Speaker 1>questions for you for this show because I think there

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<v Speaker 1>has been a lot of talks in the past about uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously very informal talks like what would happened

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a gay bachelor bachelorrette or something along

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<v Speaker 1>those lines, and that's kind of what we have here.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, right, Garrett. So for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>listeners that aren't familiar with the show, and even honestly

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for me and Jared, because I haven't seen this show yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but can you kind of fill us in on the

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<v Speaker 1>show and how it works? Definitely? Okay, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>three bachelors here, you have a street female, street male,

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<v Speaker 1>and a gay mail and the three of us are

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<v Speaker 1>plucked out of our normal lives and we're sent to

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<v Speaker 1>a magical Christmas castle that's set in Austria and the Alps.

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.679
<v Speaker 1>And while we're there, we have six blind dates and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know the structure, so all we just know

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>is we're going to be meeting people. We didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how many people we could meet, and then we

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>had to just really go with the flow. And it

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>was just like a very unique reality dating show set up,

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.159
<v Speaker 1>I would say, And it was stunning. Everything was just Christmas.

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So how many? Okay, so it was you a straight

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 1>man in a straight woman and you guys were all

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<v Speaker 1>looking for partners where they're I guess I guess the

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>nice thing about that would be that everyone's contestants quote unquote,

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.640
<v Speaker 1>right would be there for it's pretty clear who they're

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<v Speaker 1>there for. But so, so I have a question because

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons why I've always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of assumed a gay Bachelor Bachelorrette season wouldn't work is

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes I feel like the contestants could develop feelings

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<v Speaker 1>for each other. Right. Well, so, so it's the gay

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.919
<v Speaker 1>world is very different than the straight world. I'll say that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I was curious too to see how this

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<v Speaker 1>would play out. Um, And I mean, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really live in this bubble in New York City, where,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, New York is pretty gay, and so

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<v Speaker 1>like you can kind of just like have your friend

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<v Speaker 1>group that that you choose, and I think that's one

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of the great things about New York City is everyone

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of find their bubble um. But going in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're all living together in this castle. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know like if at first I would arry and

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<v Speaker 1>I would have like six people there and then like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone would have like all the equal amount of time

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to get to know each other. But there didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>work that way, and I think that probably was best

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 1>for me. Um, maybe not for the contestants, but it

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely kind of like mitigated that opportunity for those other

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>individuals to be able to link up, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So what made you want to go on the show? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the single and I was like, honestly, I I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like if there was a time of life to

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<v Speaker 1>capture something like a romance on camera, it's now, like

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>while I'm still young, and I'm a pretty adventurous type

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of person, so I don't know anything about television, and

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so this was kind of like one of those things

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that I felt if I was thrown into this, then

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the person that I was like getting thrown into it with,

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>if if we like could do this ride together, then

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<v Speaker 1>it would probably be something that we would hold us

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>this like special bond and we would always have it

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.719
<v Speaker 1>recorded and um, you know, and we like learned all

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>these lessons together, and so I just thought it could

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>be like a really cool like love journey to have. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so tell us more about the journey, because you said

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<v Speaker 1>you had a mansion or not in the Austrian Alps,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds freaking amazing, right, So tell us a little

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>bit more about maybe like the dates that you guys

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.719
<v Speaker 1>would go on, or or how you would spend your days.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're living with everyone, right, are you spending

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<v Speaker 1>every waking moment with each other or is it kind

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of like you're only spending times with them when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on dates. How did that a whole work? So I

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>had in my own room. Um so we I mean

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone had their own room. I think some of the

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.320
<v Speaker 1>cast were sharing. Some of the gay cast had like

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>female roommates. Um, but me chat and Faith um so

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>chatting Faith to the other two leads. We all got

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>there like like I think it was thanks uh sorry

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day February fourteen when we man so we're like,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it's super excited for love. Um. And so we each

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>had like our own corner at the top of the castle.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>And so the top floor of the castle had like

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>like the bigger bedrooms and we had these like stunning views.

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 1>And then um, Faith was lucky because she had a

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>room next to Anthony. I won't say anything more than that. Um,

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>but all of my dates they were two floors below me.

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't actually get to interact with anyone unless

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I was on camera. So it was like first it

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>was me, Faith and Chad. We got to know each other,

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I didn't know who was coming and when,

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and then once we had the first day, it was

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>just on camera interaction and then I wouldn't see them

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>again until the next opportunity that we're filming. So tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what a date, Like what was the date? Would

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<v Speaker 1>you guys go skiing? Would you go like dog sled

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>racing or yeah, so it's like dog sledding, ski biking, snowboarding, skiing, snowshoeing,

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<v Speaker 1>like any type of winter activity that you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be like a cute dates it up like

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we did, Like what Corey and I

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>mo went on a date where we literally just played

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>in the snow and just like look down some wishing

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>well and like made a wish. I mean, it's just

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>like silly stuff, but it's really cute. No, but that's

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like the best way to get to know someone, you know,

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to like related to bachelors. Sometimes when people go on dates,

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>they do these activities, and while they're fun and entertaining,

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>there's not really a way to get to know someone

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>or talk to them or get to know them better.

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So like a date playing in the snow. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the best way to just chill and talk

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to someone. Yeah, it's it's hard because like, okay, so

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you have you have things you have to capture on camera,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>but then you also really want to get to know

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the person, right, so you know, it's kind of like

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the I I think my favorite dates were probably the

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>ones where it's like, you know, just me and jose

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>we were snowshoeing, We're walking in the snow and talking

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and getting to know each other right, And it's nothing

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.239
<v Speaker 1>where it's like super technical, like where I was on

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>a snowboarding date with Dominic and I'm bossing my ass

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the entire time. So it's just like a little bit

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>more difficult. But yeah, I mean I definitely agree. And

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to find those like organic moments as quick

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>as possible. Um, And I think too that, I mean,

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that's really kind of the piece that I think speaks

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>speaks more than than the process, you know, because you

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>have to have those like chemistry bonds like start to form.

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, what is it about the snow that makes

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it so much more romantic? Yeah, there's like something about

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>snowfall that for me personally at least. Maybe it's because

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the Northeast, but it's like so

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>majestic and it's just like I see Christmas lights and

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I immediately feel like butterflies. Yeah, and this place was

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Alps, so it's like just stunning, and it's

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like these this Austrian Alp villages. So it's like

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>all these like German inspired towns everywhere, and everyone has

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>a cute little accent and they're really excited because you're

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>filming something in their town that does get like a

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of like film stuff. So it was an experience

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. I will say of I've been a few

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>countries in Eastern Europe and Vienna was one of my

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>absolute favorites. Austria, I haven't have the chance to explore

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Alps quite as much, but but yeah, I've heard

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>very good things. And to Jared to your question, I

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>think the thing about snow is it's like it encourages

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>people to like a bundle up but then be like

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 1>just be closer together and like you know kind of

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get like the warm, hot coco, the

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>cozy fires, like all that kind of stuff. You get

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>some like you get some marshmallows in there with some

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>whipped cream and then you drizzle some caramel on top.

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Hasn't been a dating, so that's like winter based yet

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, here we go. I was gonna say, it's

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's perfect timing for it too, And it's funny too

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that you guys filmed it in spring and so it's

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>finally out on HBO Max. Now is that right? Yeah? Yeah,

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>so we started yea, we started in February, so that's

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>what like ten months? How long did filming? How open

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>we were in Austria for the leads were there for

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like a little over a month. I think so you

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>like just made it before quarantine. Oh yeah, no, we

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>flew back and I think it was like days after

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>they shut all the borders down in Europe. What was

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>it like, just for my own curiosity when you were

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>on on set, you know, February March was when everybody

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>started getting a little nervous like, Okay, is this gonna

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>be something? Is it's not gonna be something? But you

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>guys were secluded filming. But was it like producers like

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>freaking out there, like hey, we might have to cut

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.239
<v Speaker 1>filming short because of Corona. They were very professional and

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>they like wanted to like keep the process true, and

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really know what was going on. Okay, But however,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a little like confession. I they unplugged like

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>our TVs and like took all the like equipments. You

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>can't like plug it back in. And I found line

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and I like plugged it up, and I was like,

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, what's going on in the world. And

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I actually saw that that you know, COVID had a

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>breakout in northern Italy, which was like right at the

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>where we're at, and I was like, oh, like this

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>is getting really close. Um, And so I did ask

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>my producer. I was like, hey, like is there a

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>game plan in place? And they're like, we're good right now,

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like we only have like three days left. And then

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like we wrapped up shops right at that's

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything got finished. Um. So we just got

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>super lucky. And it's cool because honestly that was that

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was the last bit of like pre COVID culture captured

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and my world. And so I mean I look at

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the person who I am today and look at that

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>person and it's like the amount of growth that all

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of us have gone through the world is a different place. Um.

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's cool to have just like, oh, this was

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Scarrett at this time pre COVID captured like days before

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it unraveled, especially you because you're in New York City too,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>which is obviously seen quite a bit of the worst

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of it. I feel like, at least in the US day.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But how has it been watching yourself back on television?

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Has it been like weird for you? Weird? Okay? So

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like you go in and it's a simulation in

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a way where it's like, Okay, you don't know what's

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. You're thrown into this world that's created

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>for you, and you know you're you're going and you're

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you're being open to to everyone around you, you know,

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>opening up yourself to all these like people, cameraman and

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>lights and everything. Just everyone hears everything, right, so you

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>no longer have like a private journey. Um. And so

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like that was an experience that was this like weird

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>social experiment and then watching it again on the other

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>side and you're like, you're you're seeing a lot more

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of like TV then versus like what I had personal experienced,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's a whole another simulation in itself. So it's cool.

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I'm learning a lot about all of

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>television and media throughout this whole thing. It. Um, I

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's important the ultimate story that was told, um,

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know it, there's a lot of questions. So

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like here to answer the questions because there's a

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>lot that went down and a lot that happened. And

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that it being in the first time that

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>this is like a gay narrative really played out on

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a major network, people are like not everyone is like

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>happy with the full to be honest, Yeah, I was

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you about that because you know, Bachelor most

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>recently has gotten flak about, you know, not being diverse enough,

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and so obviously Matt James. So Matt James is the

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor coming up in January, and he's the first black bachelor.

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>We also we've had a black bachelor in New York.

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>He is he lives in New York? Does he live

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>with Tyler? Yeah? Okay, yeah, so I used to sell

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the tower wo Manhattan Square that they will have an

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>apartment in. Okay, Well, is he nice? Oh for sure?

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, both of them are incredible guys. Okay, before UM,

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I had to let my work know like that I

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>was leaving UM for like a month to film this

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>reality show. And so someone from from my work was

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>really good friends with Tyler, and Tyler and I had

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>like a quick sit down chat. So that's awesome. Yeah,

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Matt seems like a super nice guy. I'm excited to

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>meet him. Actually, my wife met him and said just

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the nicest things. I'm super excited for him. But I

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you this question because you know, we've

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>so we've also seen within the Bachelor franchise, uh Demi,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>who is bisexual, and she was dating a guy and

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a girl on Bachelor in Paradise. So I wanted to

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ask you what it means to be a gay man

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>who is going on national television to date other men,

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's very It's it's much more acceptable

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>today than it was many years ago, but still it's

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a little groundbreaking. Yeah, I mean, I'm shocked it

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>took this long. So it's still like again, I've I've

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of lived like in New York City, which is

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a bubble in itself, so I get it it's not

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of America. But still I mean, like,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I I feel like I live a pretty normal life, right,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>so I don't feel like I'm treated differently than anyone else,

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and so for for me to have that be represented

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in media as well, like, I'm not different really than

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>anyone else. Like I have a longing for love and

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to spend someone, um, spend the holidays with someone.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, the fact that we can

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>finally capture that, you know, love goes beyond a person's

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>sexual orientation. I think it's awesome, um, And I'm excited

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>that dating shows are like actually moving into this direction

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>because that's real life representation. I do, I do want

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to point out there, but I do want to point

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>out there was a show a while back called A

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Shot at Love with Tila Tequila. I don't know if

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys ever watched that one, but Garrett just promised

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>me you do not have a downward spiral like she did,

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>because well, she's just she's got a little cuckoo. I

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>don't foresee that happening. I don't I don't obviously foresee

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that we're happening with you. But good things for you, Gary,

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>But you definitely, I mean, you definitely are a pioneer,

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no question. Uh, you know, it's it's it seems

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>like it's been a long time coming, and obviously it's

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>good to start to see these these things happen, uh,

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>very very much. Still a long time coming. But as

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a gay man, you you kind of you go through

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>like a weird journey. You know, you have to come out,

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to like start dating, and you're

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>like dating ten years later than what you would have

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>started dating if you were like straight and dating in

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.919
<v Speaker 1>high school. You know. And on that note, I guess

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess I have a question for you too, because

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>according to what I see here, you came out just

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>five years ago and you were twenty four. So that's

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>uh uh you know, I I I guess every every

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>journey is different for every person, but uh, five years

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>after coming out for the first time now to be on,

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like you said, a major network, pursuing love and finding

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, that's I mean, that's huge, and you're definitely

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a pioneer. It's just it seems like, uh, a lot,

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just I don't know, you know, it's definitely

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Uh. And and I love that my family

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>has been able to keep up with me too, because

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like here's one bomb boom, here's another bomb. Um.

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was like super busy um the last couple

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>of years, and I wasn't able to go home for

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the holidays just because I was like kind of low

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>in the totem pole at my my company. So I

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>was like working the holidays and stuff. Um. And so

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like my first time back home was with like a

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>whole production crew and I'm like surprised, like here all

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>these gay men. Um. So it definitely was on this

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like fast track, uh to becoming like a I don't know,

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a gay man that has that shares his like public life. UM.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think to like, I learned some really amazing lessons,

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>still learning them as I'm going along. And I think

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the thing is that one thing about me is is

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm quick to own up to my mistakes because like

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that's how we learned. And I think to being a pioneer,

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of a lonely road in a way

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't know like really necessarily how to to navigate it,

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and um, I don't. I'm just trying to my best,

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>but ultimately I'm just trying to stay teachable along the way, Hey,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>doing trying your best is all any of us can do,

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>my friend. Uh So, I'm gonna say a spoiler alert

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>for here. Anybody who wants to watch the eight episodes

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>on hbom X twelve Dates of Christmas uh and doesn't

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>want to be spoiled anything, turn it off right now.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>But Garrett, you love the show single, I did ya?

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So what's going on with you now? Are you dating?

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>What has happened post show? Do you suck at dating?

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I may suck at dating? Um, okay, so like it's

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>just so weird. I mean I didn't Okay, I went

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know what to expect as far as

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>like if I was going to meet someone. I was

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.879
<v Speaker 1>hoping of course I would fall in love. And then

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I go back, um to the States, and the world's

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like ending, and um, I'm in my Brocomon apartment and

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like looking out over like the view of Manhattan,

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, like, what am I supposed to do? Like?

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Am I just gonna like be up in my apartment

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>all alone like while like everything's happening here And I

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>just got heat from my my family and everyone on

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>national television for not really being home for for so long.

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So I went home to be with my family in Louisiana.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's not many options for gay dating in Louisiana

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in that part like Charles where I'm from. Well, I'd

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>say certainly not as much in Louisiana as there is

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in New York City. Definitely not. Yeah, So, so I

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>spent that time with my family. Uh, So I moved

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>away right after high school. I was young. My little

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>brother who's five and so now he's nineteen, so I

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was able to like just spend that time with him,

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>with my sister, my nephews, my mom, my dad, so

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like that was super important for me. And then I

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>decided to um kind of like pick up, like I

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't just like a big question mark with New York.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>So I also knew that I wanted to put some

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>roots in l A too, So I moved to l

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 1>A and I started to kind of like put myself

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to be by coastal within real estate in both cities.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>So I've just been kind of like a bit all

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>over the place. We were also filming more episodes of

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Twelve Dates in l A over the summer um which

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you can see episode eight. Sorry yeah, Episode eight is

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.919
<v Speaker 1>um and we did some like studio shoots. Um. So yeah,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 1>so I have just been kind of a little bit

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 1>like back between New York and l A and trying

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to figure out And also I can't really like date

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>anyone until this is like this show, because until you

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>can get within six ft of someone, it's difficult six Yeah.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, okay, well, after remind myself here, it's

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>not really your fault that you're still single, like um,

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and and it's funny because now that like this shows

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>out and my friends who have known me for years

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>are like seeing this thing that I went through. Um,

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm definitely some guys that in the past

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>have have may have wanted to try to go on

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>a date with me, and obviously that I'm single, Oh yeah,

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>they're definitely pursuing again. So this is interesting time. It's

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely it's definitely going to continue to happen that way too,

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>for better or for worse, I guess. Um. But it's

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it's fun, it's exciting, and hopefully as things continue to

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 1>roll out with COVID and things become you know, more

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>under control, you'll be able to at least experience some

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>of the pros and the benefits of uh, you know,

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>putting yourself out there and being vulnerable and letting people

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>see you in this new light too. And I heard

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>HBO Max just said that they were doing a season two.

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>So Garrett, are we gonna see you on season two?

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna be like thirteen Dates of Christmas? I

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about season two. I did see that

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>piece come out and there was something on my face

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that said to be continued about my journey on the

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>last um. I don't. I don't know what HBO has planned,

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>but well, hopefully you find love before that, but if not,

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see you back on twelve Dates

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of Christmas season two. Garrett, Thank you so much for

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>joining us. Everybody out there, make sure you guys go

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>check out the eight episodes streaming right now on HBO

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Max Twelve Dates of Christmas, Garrett. Of course, everybody can

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>go follow you on Instagram. Garrett, Mark can tell, so

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 1>make sure you guys check out what he's going on

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>in there. Garrett, thank you so much for joining us.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Man appreciate you guys. It's a pleasure to meet you both.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, everyone, welcome back to help I suck at

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>dating and if you haven't already gone to check out

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Twelve Days of Christmas on HBO, Max, I can't blame

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you because listen, it's only been a couple of minutes anyways,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>but be sure to check that out later. Anyways, Jared,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.479
<v Speaker 1>we have a couple of emailers, uh that I think

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>we should get to here. I wonder if Mark is

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:55.959
<v Speaker 1>listening in and was willing to give us a read

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>through of these emails. He is, He just admitted himself

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>things are looking up. We have an email from Marita.

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>First of all, Mark, Hello, Well, okay, thank you. Here's

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a Rita I have to say. I'm a twenty three

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>year old girl from south of Denver, Broncos fan, bachelor's

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 1>degree in philosophy, and serial relationship sabotager. My friends kept

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a joke going for a while about me being the

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>female Dean Unglert, which is how I found your podcast.

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a weird relationship position where I think my

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>partner might be the one, but it seems like the

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 1>more serious we get, the more freaked out I get,

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and I keep doing stupid. I'm absolutely going to lose

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>him if I don't grow up a little bit but

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>for some reason I can't. I was wondering if you

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>had any advice for the transition between flings to a

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>serious relationship and how to practice being a good partner. Oh, good,

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>good stuff, Jared, I feel like this is kind of

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>right in your wheelhouse. What do you think she just said,

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>she's the female Deanungler. You should know this, I would say, honestly, though, um,

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, listen, we're all afraid of commitment.

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>This is kind of the way life is. You know,

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you never feel like you're ready. The grass is always greener.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>On the other side, you're always fearful that you're making

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a mistake and that's something better could be out there.

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>But at some point, I think you just have to

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 1>come to accept uh, you know the I don't want

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to say that like nothing better can come, but like,

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and I also don't want to make it sound like

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you're settling, but like, sometimes I think you just have

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to accept, you know, the responsibility of making a decision

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and the consequences that come with that, but also the

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>wonderfulness that comes with that. Like, for me personally, all

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I could speak about is my own experience and with Ashley,

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for so long I was confused and indecisive and and

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>afraid of making a commitment because what if I was

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>making a mistake? What if getting together with ruin our friendship?

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's so many things that we we

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>love about each other, but there's some other things that

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>make me nervous about being in a relationship with Ashley.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And then once I got past that fear, because I

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, saw a possible life without her, and I

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>made me like take action, it was the best decision

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I ever made. So sometimes, you know, you just kind

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>of have to like take a leap of faith. And

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that would be my suggestion for you, Rita, because I

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>think sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith. And

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you keep being indecisive about this person,

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you might be really uh kicking yourself down the road

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>if you end up losing them, um due to your indecisiveness. Yeah,

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree with all of that stuff. I think that

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>like the slight irony here is that she's a philosophy major,

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>uh and now she's worried about whether her partner is

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.919
<v Speaker 1>or is not the one. And I think that maybe

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>some of that stems from like the constant consideration of

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like our our impermanence or whatever. You know. It's like, well,

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>if she want to wants to make sure she finds

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>the one that she's meant to be with, like her

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>soulmate for lack of a better phrase, because she realizes,

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's only got so much time on this

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>world and she wants to make sure she does it

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>right the first time. I think that's very natural and

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a very human thing, and I think we all kind

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>of experienced that. Uh. I think that we kind of

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>get Jared. I think we've maybe talked about this on

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the podcast before. We kind of have like a bad

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>role model for relationships ingrained in our brains ever since

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>we're young kids, Like all these freaking romance movies about

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>how there's love at first sight and no matter what

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>they do at the universe always brings them back to

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 1>each other. And then we start to think that like

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that's how love should be, and that we have to

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 1>find our soul mate that way, and like there's these

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>these criteria as to what your life partners supposed to be.

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 1>But we only and we only exacerbated the problem by

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>being a bachelor. We're a part of the problem. We

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 1>are a part of the problem. But I think as

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten older, I attend or I've started to realize

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>that that's not necessarily the case. And read Read is

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>only twenty three, so you know she's so he's obviously

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty young. She just graduated college. It sounds like and like,

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about marriage right now as well, Like I mean,

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>unless he's you know, about to propose tomorrow, Like you

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>got plenty of time. You're twenty three, you're super young.

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old he is, Um, but just

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>taking one day at a time, enjoy your life. Definitely,

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it definitely is a one day at a time thing.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to not put the pressure on

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.479
<v Speaker 1>yourself of him being or out being the one, because

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, all that's gonna do is,

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>like you said, self, sabotage the relationship. Stop thinking about

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it that way, uh, and just start, like Jared said,

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>ticket day by day, one day at a time. You're

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a philosophy and you're supposed to be good of that

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, you know, Um, Mark, Mark, what kind

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of advice do you have for Rea day? I think

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got something insightful here similar But I do I

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>do sympathize with her, empathize with her that it's hard

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>to grow up instantly. You know, she's doing all these

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>things that she knows what's stupid. She knows maybe sabotaging

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the relationship because she's twenty three and she wants to

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>grow up, and so I feel like wanting to grow

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>up is the first step to actually growing up. But

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the phrase I was gonna say, you guys beat me

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to and it's one day at a time. I think

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>that's all you can do is just live in the

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>moment and enjoy him each day. And if it was

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a good day, you know you didn't sabotage the relationship, well,

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>then good for you, and let's work on tomorrow. Yeah,

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>here's the question. Do you think reader should talk to

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>her significant other about her concerns. I think that'd be great.

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I think being as open and honest as

0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>possible and say, look, I do stupid stuff some times,

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. I really want to be what you want

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 1>me to be. I think he'd be very open to that.

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I agree in the sense and for the simple fact

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's one thing to not say anything and

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>do something stupid, but another thing to say, hey, I

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>might do something stupid and then do something stupid, because

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.439
<v Speaker 1>then when you do that stupid thing, that other person

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be like, oh, this is exactly what she

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.760
<v Speaker 1>was telling me that she's gonna do. It doesn't necessarily

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>reflect anything about me personally. It's just that she's like

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>getting fearful of a long term relationship exactly exactly. You

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta like laugh about at that point. You could be like,

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.319
<v Speaker 1>ha ha, you said you were going to do this

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and now you're doing it, Like this is stupid. Let's

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>just carry on and continue to do what we've been doing.

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>So I definitely think that they should have a conversation too,

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>as tricky as it might be, and especially like at

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that age. You know, obviously everyone is different, but when

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I always twenty three, I was always fearful of having

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that conversation. Hopefully Rita is a little bit more advanced

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>than I was at that age, but um, yeah, communication

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and take it day by day and I'm sure it

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>will work itself out. And if it doesn't work itself out, uh,

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>don't need through life. Don't go through life thinking about

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>how you might have missed out on the perfect person,

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 1>because I think that is not the way to do it.

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>There's right, Well, the perfect person does exist, it's you

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself the perfect person. Yeah, yeah, there he is. But

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess my point is is Rita is the perfect

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>person and she just has to make herself happy and

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>then everything else will fall in mine from there. Uh.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>That seems to be enough of an answer for that one, Mark,

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to get into the next one? Yeah,

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little confused by this one. And also we

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>missed our window on this one, so sorry, Lauren, we're

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 1>a little late. I've been seeing a guy for four

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>months now. We met and started talking during quarantine. Well,

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>we spent a lot of time together since then. I'm

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, she just durned thirty one, so we're both

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>looking for a lifetime partner. At least I think he is,

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and I hope he is. He works from home, and

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>it spent a lot of time with his family, who

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>lived about six hours away from us. He's planning on

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>being there for a few weeks. You're on the holidays,

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure how to approach a relationship before

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>he leaves. What's a guy's opinion? Is it too soon

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 1>for that conversation, So she is wondering whether or not

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>she I think she wants to find a relationship before

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes home for the holidays. She wants the d

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>t R. Yeah, d TR nice dating term, dean, thank you,

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I've been brushing up and trying to prepare

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>myself for anything that you could throw at me. Uh,

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>she wants to d t R before the holidays. I, uh,

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you know that's a I don't think she necessarily has to.

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you should ever uh maybe wait,

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>But in this case, it's like he's going home to

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the hall for the holidays to see his family. Um,

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess the question is she going to go down

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to visit him? Well, it sounds like she's not going to.

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's my point that solid of a foundation, would

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you have brought a girl to see your family after

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>four months? Months? Don't four months is quite a long time.

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 1>If he's leaving for a few weeks, that means he's

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be gone for about him. I think that

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at this through the lens of a normal

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>year and mid pandemic. I don't think it's very strange

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 1>at all for them not to be spending the holidays

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>together for only dating for four months. Like it's even, um,

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're Calin and I have been dating for

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>over a year and a half, and I'm like, Okay,

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>well I think we should go see my siblings for

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Christmas this year, like even like we're pretty hesitant on that.

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.439
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that they're you know, only four months

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>into a relationship, I don't think it matters too much. Um,

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you can kind of. It's kind of you

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:32.879
<v Speaker 1>have the luxury of like sitting back and seeing how

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 1>it plays out over the next you know, three to

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>four weeks and hopefully guys talk every day and you

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you get exactly what you need to out of it,

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of carry on the relationship once

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>he gets back. But like let's say, you know, a

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>week or two goes by, he's at home celebrating Christmas

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>to this family and you don't hear from him. Then

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like, in a weird way, you're getting

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the answer that you didn't have to ask for because

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he's giving it to you, you know. And that's my

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>gut too, is to kind of see how this plays out.

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I want everyone to be proactive and everything,

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But let's just kind of see how it goes. Let's

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>be texting, let's be in touch, and let's be in

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>contact and and see how responsive he is and go

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:13.720
<v Speaker 1>from there. For Jared, what do you think. I'm torn?

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree with both of you. But what if my

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>only nerve, my only hesitation would be if Lauren lets

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it play out and then she waits for him to

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>see how much he'll communicate with her. I guess my

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.399
<v Speaker 1>only hesitation would be, what if he's doing the exact

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>same thing. What if he's waiting for her to see

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>if she makes the initial move. I know, like old school,

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>the guys are the one who are supposed to text

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and call and reach out, but like it's not all

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>guys do that anymore. So I don't know. I don't know.

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome to text them. You can certainly initiate. Let's

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 1>just see how he responds. But like, my gun agrees

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 1>with you guys, but my head is like, well, what

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>if what if he's waiting for the same thing from her?

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, here's the thing is, if she

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>has to try and force something over these holiday weeks,

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>if she's the one that's constantly having a text, having

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to call, having a check for updates, then it's probably

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>not a good sign, right, But like if it just

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 1>continues to carry on and be like a natural, flowing dynamic,

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>then that's obviously a good thing. The point is, it's like,

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to really define anything at

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the moment, because, like I said, you kind of just

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>got to sit back, relax and see what Maybe not relax,

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 1>but you get to sit back and see what happens.

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, I agree with you, guys, don't define

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>anything right now. Let it play out and because then

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you'll get your answer over the next month. But before

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he leaves, or if he already did leave, I'm sorry,

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>but just like make sure he knows that, like, hey,

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I miss you, I really like you. I were I

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like where this is headed. Let's keep talking so that

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's easy going so it doesn't scare

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 1>him away, but also lets him know, Hey, I want

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to continue what this is. Well, we need to follow

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:57.720
<v Speaker 1>up email because really, by the time this episode hits

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to podcasts, this I've already worked itself out.

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so Lauren, if you're listening, which we hope

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you are. Please give us an update. You can email us.

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating at iHeart media dot com. Uh.

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You know that obviously because you already emailed us. But

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>for the other listeners out there that might have some

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>questions or concerns about their dating or romance, I suck

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a dating at iHeart media dot com. Please please email us.

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>We want to hear it from everyone. Um, Jared, you

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 1>have a dating term for us? This? I do a

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty dating term. This one, Uh is pretty obvious in

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:36.479
<v Speaker 1>my estimation. But you know, there's only so many dating

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>terms out there, so hopefully brings us more because I'm

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>running out of them. But here we go dating term today,

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:47.399
<v Speaker 1>the last one? Is it? Holy crap? Holy moly? Wow,

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>this year flew by alright, so the last dating term

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of God, let's get this year over with bird boxing?

0:53:54.280 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>What could bird boxing mean in the realm of dating? Uh,

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pass on this one because I never saw

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. Oh no, well that makes it even That

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<v Speaker 1>makes it so much better. Now you can't pass mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you go first? And or Eastern or Becky anywhere else?

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<v Speaker 1>Bird Box was a movie where you couldn't look at anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't make eye contact with anything. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>blindfold yourself because if you saw the creatures, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose your mind? So I think it's someone

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<v Speaker 1>who denies reality, who refuses to see the problems in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship people when they're right in front of their face.

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<v Speaker 1>They are living with blinders on. Okay, Yeah, I completely agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it's just like you're not even seeing the red flags.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like making excuses and it's just like their perfection.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I can't can't and see all the potential.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like bird boxing is like every girl at

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<v Speaker 1>a bar, the poor things, like they're like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>make eye contact with any of these creepy guys because

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<v Speaker 1>if I do, they're just gonna It's like if I

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<v Speaker 1>open my eyes, the creatures are gonna prey upon me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. That's a good one. Yeah, tunnel vision, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's what That's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you if you look upon you're the type

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<v Speaker 1>of person where if someone looks upon you, they just

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<v Speaker 1>lose their minds. They they they lose their grip on reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I live down the street from the house from bird Box,

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<v Speaker 1>so bird Box is a big, big movie in our town. Still. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the talk of the neighborhood. That's right, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>Stolly goes up there and takes pictures of blindfolds on

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<v Speaker 1>years later, It's been a lot of fun. Why have

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<v Speaker 1>I not seen you with the picture of a blindfold

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<v Speaker 1>in front of this house? I have a picture. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>send it to you. Oh did you post it on

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<v Speaker 1>the Graham and I just missed out on it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some friend you are. I'm an asking some friend you are, Jared.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take a shot and say bird boxing is

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<v Speaker 1>actually more similar to cat fishing someone. Uh, you are

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<v Speaker 1>hiding your true physical appearance while dating virtually, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what bird boxing. Jar. I love the guests. I

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 1>love you taking outside the box. No pun intended, But

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately Dean everybody else is right, of course. Bird boxing

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<v Speaker 1>made famous by the Netflix Sandra Bullock starring recent post

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<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic thriller. Bird Boxing is officially defined by Tinder as

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<v Speaker 1>quote being blind to just how bad your partner the

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<v Speaker 1>person you're seeing really is. When you are denial that

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<v Speaker 1>your partner is a ding bat, you get the honor

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of calling yourself bird boxed. The last dating term of

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 1>here on, Help I Suck at Dating? Bird Boxing? Very

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<v Speaker 1>nicely done, everybody, Thank you for your effort all year.

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<v Speaker 1>Rondo applause to all you for putting in the effort.

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<v Speaker 1>All I had to do was look it up. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are the one who had to actually take a guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Kle And hopefully she doesn't listen to this and

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 1>start thinking that she's bird boxing herself, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, well, I think that's gonna do it for

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<v Speaker 1>this week's and this year's final episode of Help I

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating? We made it through another year. Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say I think this year we've all become

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<v Speaker 1>slightly better daters. Uh, it's been a grind, it's been

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a struggle, but I can confidently say that I can

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>look back, that Chaired can look back, and hopefully you,

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>as a listener, can look back to where we were

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:16.439
<v Speaker 1>this time last year and say that now we are

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<v Speaker 1>slightly better at dating. Right, for instance, i'd like to

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 1>think so, I mean, we're both married, so if we're

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>not better at dating, we're really doing something wrong. We

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>got freaking Becky a boyfriend. Mark and Easton haven't filed

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>for divorce yet so, like I said, things like only

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 1>getting better, we're betting a hundreds pretty bad. You should

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 1>know that that's great. I I honestly don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to say. You know, it's at the end of a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope everyone has a great New Year's and it

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<v Speaker 1>is safe. You know, it's crazy, Dean. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>last time I saw you in person was back in

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<v Speaker 1>early March, like March, whenever we recorded at we had

0:57:57.080 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>she was from the Netflix showed the huge Love Is Blind.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the one that gave me a lot of crap. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>well she was the therapist. We can do so much crap.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, dude, that was back in March. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to see you for a full year because

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably not gonna see you before March. Who the

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<v Speaker 1>hell knows. Hopefully, here's my resolution that we get back

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<v Speaker 1>into the Help I Suck at Dating studio at I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio and record an episode in person in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>That's resolution. That's great. I would actually really appreciate if

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you would come up with another person more personal in

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the year's resolution for yourself, maybe your family, and we

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:32.919
<v Speaker 1>can talk about that next week on Help I suck

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 1>at Dating because that will be the first episode of one.

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll come with a resolution for myself, hopefully Becky's mark.

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Everyone else can come with one as well. Maybe the

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>email or some of the listeners can email us and

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 1>say I suck a dating at iHeart media dot com

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and tell us what their resolutions for dating might be. UM,

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 1>because listen, we all suck. We could all suck a

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>little bit less, hopefully guys soon in next year, so

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>we can all make that happen. Follow help by Suck

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.400
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