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Speaker 2: Tip to Tim. This is our lives, this is our passion,

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Speaker 2: that's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: He's back. He is back in the building.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the one co host who has held it down

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Speaker 3: admirably in the two week absence of the guy next

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Speaker 3: to him, Brian Campbell, the beas bastard.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's back at it. Be course, for real.

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Speaker 3: I am pumping up the return of the one and

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Speaker 3: only from Colombia with Love. Morning Combat of course is

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Speaker 3: back at it. But I know what you're tuning in for.

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Speaker 3: You know, like, hey, that BC cat he may have

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Speaker 3: won me over more than I thought, but he ain't LT.

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Speaker 2: He ain't that gruff bearded bastard.

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Speaker 3: He ain't the best MMA non fighting fight analyst in

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Speaker 2: So today, hedy Friday, January February fourth.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two, one of those months, Morning Combat, the

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Speaker 3: award winning show is back, and so is Luke frickin'

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Speaker 3: Thomas LT.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 3: I know you had a travel day from Heck yesterday,

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Speaker 3: but great to see you back on the light side.

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Speaker 1: Of the forest. Is that I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, is that that's patriotically racist? I'm not sure,

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Speaker 3: but but welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Either way, I know you meant well.

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Speaker 1: It is good to be home. I am glad to

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Speaker 1: I am happy to be back in the swing of things,

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Speaker 1: and I'm ready to attack the day. Good sir, so

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Speaker 1: I heard, I hear, though, BC. I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: I got a few emails, a couple of dms, a

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Speaker 1: the air. Now, I purposely did not double check that

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Speaker 1: But I want you to know we got snitches out

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Speaker 1: there and they were telling on your ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, where I come from, Luke, you know, stitches

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Speaker 2: get stitches. But I was gonna ask you about that.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Luckily, you look like you're having

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Speaker 3: heavy content that I delivered either solo with the great

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Speaker 2: But you know, it ain't MK. Even with respect to Chuck,

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Speaker 3: We love that man and definitely have a lot of

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Speaker 3: love for Shack helping us out. It ain't MK unless

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Speaker 3: it's these two pasty old dads, Luke, So welcome back, please.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear about it. It's actually I.

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Speaker 3: Told look, I told that producer Mike, I go, you know,

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Speaker 3: we'll get into UFC Fight Night, but I gotta.

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Speaker 2: Hear about this trip.

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Speaker 3: I got to hear about how fired up Luke is

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Speaker 3: gonna come back and change the combat sporting world, you

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Speaker 3: know coming up. So we'll get into that. But Luke,

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Speaker 3: welcome back. Please like this video, subscribe to what we

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Speaker 3: your post fight instant analysis, which Luke plans on delivering

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Speaker 3: Saturday night after UFC Fight Night's fantastic middleweight main event.

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Speaker 3: right now YouTube dot com, Slash Morning Combat from Keith Thurman,

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Speaker 3: Dana took a bunch of doogies on him in the

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Speaker 2: Just the same.

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Speaker 3: Encourage you to check out those chats. And how about

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Speaker 3: that's how that life cycle works. Great right networks though,

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Speaker 2: Anything else, Luke. One of my first oh, Combat Sports Awards.

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Speaker 2: For the people. Okay, so hey, you know it's up

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Speaker 1: I actually respect that about you. I'm glad you voted

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Speaker 3: top topic one on this Friday, as Morning Combat always

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Speaker 2: Forty seven day trip to Columbia. Luke, as we set

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Speaker 2: off the top of your back, but you know we care.

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Speaker 2: It's a Luke. You have to admit.

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Speaker 3: It's a family of weirdos that we've created here, a

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Speaker 2: Well, we're getting into the preview to break things down.

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Speaker 2: So all you people that are hating already on us.

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Speaker 2: I look at the cheese on that ship. Look at

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Speaker 2: Wow that I'm reacting to that cheese as you were

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Speaker 1: Oh my dude, I had to dude, my wife will

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Speaker 1: and I'm fucking rubbernecking, you know. I was like, holy shit, balls, man,

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Speaker 2: That's why. Wow. All right, Luke, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Were you called wait wait wait, wait, last one last one. So,

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Speaker 3: Laughed because they didn't pull that from inventory. They pulled

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Speaker 2: Look, there's no question I can't believe you brought like

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's like like like a friend Dur's pink

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Speaker 4: It's terrible, it's terrible, but I dude, it's terrible, but

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Speaker 1: I was getting cooked alive.

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Speaker 3: Oh, were you upset when you found out that I

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Speaker 1: Wait, what's the rule?

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Speaker 3: Apparently we don't have one Luke, you've been gone for it.

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Speaker 3: You've been gone for a half moon, all right, but

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Speaker 3: it was great. It's great to have you back, Luke.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to take over and dominate along with you,

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Speaker 3: arm in arm or maybe by stord against one another.

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Speaker 2: Either way, we'll get there, all right. Uh.

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Speaker 3: If you're looking for more on dad hats, how about

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Speaker 3: Morning Coombat Dot Store. Forgot to plug that earlier, but

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Speaker 3: you can buy this great piece of business right there.

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Speaker 3: Today is the final day of our sale on hoodies,

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Speaker 3: drug rugs, anything with a hood fifteen percent off Morning

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Speaker 3: E one five. They're moving, Luke, you heard this morning

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Speaker 3: when when Raymond is you Raymond? When when our Jay

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Speaker 2: It just I mean, come on, Luke.

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Speaker 1: You know new wave of Jork, New Wave Jork.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, there we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're here really to find out who's gonna win

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Speaker 3: this middleweight main event Saturday night it goes down in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: It's a hell of a top ten match.

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Speaker 3: Up here as Jack Hermanson and Sean Strickland do battle.

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Speaker 3: Uh for really, high level positioning to be inserted directly,

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Speaker 3: there's an important time right now. This is an important fight, Luke.

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Speaker 3: I broke down the storylines on Wednesday, but saving for

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Speaker 1: Well, Sean Strickland is a proper weirdo, which as all

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's given him. In fact, I think

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Speaker 3: They interrupt you about when he fought Usman. I think

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Speaker 1: I just feel like Sean Strickland, people want to make

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Speaker 3: There's levels to this incendiary shit that people can say,

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Speaker 3: and there's different silos, and what they fit in Colby's

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Speaker 2: The shit Sean Strickland says is another.

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Speaker 3: Not just you know, wanting to catch a body in there,

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Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder others.

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Speaker 3: But I think we've got a tweet or a screenshot

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Speaker 2: Strickland's been been.

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Speaker 3: Pulling out all the all the uh all his weird

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Speaker 3: tips this week Luke and Robin hum and people's faces. Sally,

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Speaker 1: Let me read this, Let me read this. Strickland on

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Speaker 1: why Holland doesn't like him. I think I told him

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Speaker 1: I could take that ass. Yeah, dude, I can imagine

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Speaker 1: This is like the guy hit the bus stop. Imagine

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Speaker 1: the guy at the bus stop could beat your fucking ass.

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Speaker 1: That's Sean Strickland.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's actually like Nate, nasty Nate from the

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Speaker 2: Look you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, so

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get into the exit the notes. But like,

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Speaker 3: Are we eating in a betting in him eventually committing

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Speaker 3: he's obviously playing a character, but it's it's it's weird

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, Luke, here's the thing, It's like, you have to

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Speaker 1: out of that, or it could be a little bit

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Speaker 1: of him just kind of dialed up. Always always keep

433
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 1: that in mind. Like these fighters who make headlines for

434
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: saying incendiary things, they have to know some of that

435
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 1: is on their part a little bit manipulative. Which again

436
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 1: and I don't mean in a dishonest way to in

437
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: that sense, but just to get more attention. What I

438
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 1: will say is, though at some point, if you've been

439
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 1: doing this long enough, BC and I think you'll agree

440
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 1: there are people who want to say that when you

441
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Speaker 1: have fighters who say the kinds of things that Sean

442
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: Strickland says, that you're like, oh, MMA is just enabling him,

443
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 1: And I would argue that if those sentiments are genuine,

444
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 1: I would actually argue it's the opposite. I would argue

445
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 1: that to an extent, MMA is actually civilizing him. It

446
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 1: is keeping him away from the kinds of other impulses

447
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 1: or activities he would otherwise be dragged into. There's a

448
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 1: lot of people in the world of boxing, or if

449
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't for boxing, they'd probably end up fucking stealing

450
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: car stereos and other shit. Why would MMA be any

451
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: different in that sense? So it's hard to know. I've

452
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 1: actually never asked Eric Nixick, who I have a good

453
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: relationship with, about it. I feel like it's time to

454
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: be like, hey, man, what's the what's the story? Because

455
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: Eric Nixick is as normal a family man, centered, talented,

456
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: and you know he he loves the guy, so there

457
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: must be something to it, right, there must be some

458
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: other thing we don't understand.

459
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Speaker 3: Well I would if I were you, I would d

460
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Speaker 3: m Nixick not set it up like like this part

461
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 3: of our show would just be like, bro, do you

462
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 3: know if I mean Sean Strick will never been over

463
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 3: your house?

464
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Speaker 2: And if he says yes, Luke, then it's an act. Right?

465
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 1: Oh? I see, because that's where his kids are and

466
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: why yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Okay, we'll see

467
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 1: what's up. I don't know what the story is, but

468
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 1: in whatever the case, here's what I'll say. Don't lose

469
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: out of the fact that he's actually a rational operator

470
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the craft.

471
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Speaker 2: Oh, he's very good.

472
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 3: Look, he's a very good ass fighter. And this is

473
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: a big ass fight which has you know, number five

474
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: versus number seven at middleway. I can't wait for this,

475
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: and their styles contrast perfectly.

476
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: They do they do so for me, I thought. Richard Man,

477
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 1: who I always shout out. He works for three twenty

478
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 1: seven formally known as Fight Metric, and he looks into

479
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: the numbers. The numbers are pretty clear about this, which

480
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: you basically have as a scenario where if you look

481
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Speaker 1: at Jack Harmanson and the numbers he has for significant

482
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: strikes versus Sean Strickland, Strickland does better, but they're you know,

483
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: they're semi comparable. However, when you focus in on the

484
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Speaker 1: detail that the significant strikes that make up a portion,

485
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: a significant bulk really of her Manson's significant strikes, they

486
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Speaker 1: are significant strikes from grounded positions. It's ground to pound,

487
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, but that takes what he does

488
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: at distance on the feet to a much lower level.

489
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Speaker 1: I think, in fact, you saw evidence of that played

490
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Speaker 1: out in the Marvin Vittori fight when he couldn't really

491
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: get the takedown. He kind of had to exchange with

492
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Speaker 1: the guy at range, and I thought Vittori frankly did

493
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Speaker 1: the better work there by a considerable margin. Well, if

494
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Speaker 1: VI who yes, is a different kind of fighter, different

495
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: kind of athlete, obviously, but if Sean Strickland can kind

496
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: of map along that game plan we know from the

497
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: numbers at distance, dude, listen to some of these numbers.

498
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: I've got this for here. The breakdownack Sean Strickland lands

499
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: five and a half strikes per minute and absorbs a

500
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: fair bit three and three quarters, but he still has

501
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: a pretty high one point seven positive differential for ranked fighters.

502
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: That's that's in the upper tier of any ranked fighter

503
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: in the weight in any of the weight classes. So

504
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: the real key challenge for Jack Hermanson is going to

505
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: be I don't think striking a distance better, although he

506
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: does probably want to do that to me. B See,

507
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: this is takedown or bust man. If he cannot get

508
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: that takedown, it seems like a largely unwinnable affair.

509
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that same question because that

510
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: seems to be the way this is breaking down, And

511
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 3: you know, you watch recent tape on Strickland. I mean,

512
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: he is so pinpoint accurate in the way he sets

513
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 3: up his boxing, Like you know, he'll stand at close range,

514
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 3: he'll endure and absorb, but it's that steady flow of short,

515
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: hard heavy shot. Look, he has a way of adding

516
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 3: some pepper onto some arm punches and just you know,

517
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: zeroing in whether it's your nose or whatever, and just

518
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 3: putting that mental pressure of the fact that he's not

519
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: going away. But he also hits thuddingly hard and adds

520
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: up over time. So if her Manson can't take him down,

521
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be an uphill battle.

522
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Speaker 2: So my real question is this.

523
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: Let me first lay down the odds here as we speak,

524
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 3: DraftKings has Strickland a minus two twenty five favorite. Her

525
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 3: Manson plus one eight five seems about right. Not just

526
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: if he can't take him down many her Manson, this

527
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: is a this is a tough fight for him.

528
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: How about this luke.

529
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: We we've seen from Strickland, the five round stamina that

530
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: he showed against Yah Hall, So it doesn't seem to

531
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: be a potential pothole there. We love his striking on

532
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: the feet, We love his takedown defense. How is his

533
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: offensive wrestling and or grappling. Should her Manson be able

534
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: to take him down on a some what consistent basis?

535
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: I would I would say this if her Manson is

536
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: getting him down on a consistent basis. Now, when you

537
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: ask that, let me let me let me let me

538
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: double down on this. Because we just talked about a

539
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: certain portion of the game that's gonna be really relevant.

540
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you imagine a scenario where if I told you,

541
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: like I'm from the future, and I told you Jack

542
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: her Manson is going to get a few takedowns in

543
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: this fight. Do you think that that will necessarily correspond

544
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: to ground and pound, or what I'm imagining is I

545
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: actually wouldn't be surprised if he gets him down. But

546
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: I think a guy like Strickland's not going to play

547
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: a guard game or any of that shit. I think

548
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be squirmy underneath. He's going to make control

549
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: active as part of what her Manson is doing, and

550
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know, ultimately resisting to the point where

551
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: her Manson is going to be any situations where like,

552
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: oh I got two three takedowns, but yeah, dude, what'd

553
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: you do with it? I think Strickland is going to

554
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: be really good at negating some of that secondary portion,

555
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: if not the first, and by the way, he might

556
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: stuff the first portion too, but that second one I

557
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: think is really going to be key. This is not

558
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: Edmond Shabbat, Who's gonna be a little bit lost here, dude.

559
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: The other point is, you know, Sean Strickland has had

560
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: how many UFC fights, like double digit at this point,

561
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: Like he's been around. He kind of understands what the

562
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: larger meta game is and what he has to do

563
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: to get there. He's he is appropriately sized. Although it

564
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: should be noted Hermanson does seem pretty fucking strong for

565
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: the weight class. That could play a factor if it

566
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: goes late or if some kind of injury revereals itself.

567
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: But what I'm imagining is negatting on the ground and

568
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: eventually working himself back to the feet the control time,

569
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: that's what you want to look for. How much time,

570
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: like in Ghanu versus Gone, does he spend in a

571
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: dominant position. That's gonna really be what decides that.

572
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: Do you see a lot of Bisping's game in what

573
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 3: Sean Strickland does well?

574
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: Yes, also, you know taunts of rape.

575
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Speaker 2: I don't think this outsides, Yeah.

576
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, A little bit. I think it's

577
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good comparison, you know, more

578
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: like a box semi kickboxer, defensive wrestler type. Put some

579
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: volume on you, maybe not like the most dominant puncher

580
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: in the weight class, but the overall accumulation ends up

581
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: rearranging people's faces just the same. That's not a bad

582
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: vibe at all. I would say he's a little bit

583
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: more in the pocket best, being a little more stick

584
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: and movish. Bill. We'll have to see, We'll have to

585
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: see exactly how he does. I think also, by the way,

586
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: I will say this if Strickland, if you see her

587
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Manson not just failing on the takedown but circling on

588
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: the outside with Strickland holding center, that's a really bad

589
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: space for her Manson to be.

590
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: No question about that. Let's stay on her Manson thirty

591
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: three years old kind of up and down of late,

592
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, meaning that we lost. We've seen him lost

593
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: to Jared Cannoneer and Marvin Victory. But then we've seen

594
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: him quickly tap Kelvin Gaslam. We've seen him expose and

595
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: you know, sort of dominate. Edmund Shabazian got a nice

596
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: victory over Jockaray by decision there, David Branch, I mean,

597
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: he's done some things. Look, we must have an We

598
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: either have an inordinate amount of Jack her Manson European

599
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: based super fans in our larger MK family or maybe

600
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm just out to lunch and don't realize this, but

601
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people saying, no, BC, hold your day.

602
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: One ish I just started watching him a last year.

603
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: Takes for a second. Her Manson's got the brighter future

604
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: than Sean Strickland. Her Manson's got the experience, he's got this,

605
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: he's got that. So, Luke, are we missing that or

606
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: is it still in line with the way this, you know,

607
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: styles make fights. If Jack er Manson can control the

608
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: terms of this, yeah, absolutely the odds are close for

609
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: a reason he's in this fight. But obviously the question is, Luke,

610
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: what happens if he can't take Strickland down? Are we

611
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: missing something that we're not seeing on tape here from

612
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: Jack Heermanson that's saying, okay, slight underdog, but he can

613
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: win this in a few different ways.

614
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, maybe I would say that there have been

615
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: times I don't want to speak for you or anybody else,

616
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: but for me, there have been times where I have

617
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: in my own let's let's talk about my own blind spots.

618
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: One of my blind spots historically, and I'm aware of

619
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: it in the sense that I might still make the mistake,

620
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: but I know it's a problem that I have. I've

621
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: been a little bit harsh on certain European prospects that

622
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: ended up being a lot better than I thought they

623
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: would be. There. It is true a lot of European prospects,

624
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: at least from the twenty eleven's on you know we're

625
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: over hyped in my view. Conor mcgregord not that case,

626
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: but there were a lot of other ones that didn't

627
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: quite get out.

628
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: But that's a you're not a huge Patty pimblet fan,

629
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: let's be fairly no.

630
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: No, it's not that I don't in any way people.

631
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't anyway dislike him. I don't know him to

632
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: dislike him. I think that there's a lot of hype

633
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: around him that his abilities somewhat justify, but not at

634
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: the current moment. I think he can grow into where

635
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: people think he is. I don't think he's there yet.

636
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: That's all I do.

637
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: Darrent Till didn't didn't reach I mean, there's still time,

638
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: but Darrent Till didn't reach the noise that was following

639
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: him in.

640
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of what happens is that in that

641
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: post Michael Bisping era, a lot of the media and

642
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: the fans were groping for the who's next kind of guy,

643
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: and especially in the Middlewa Divisi and it kind of well,

644
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: he was Walter Away at the time, but you get

645
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: the idea where you're looking for who's gonna fill that role,

646
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: So that was part of it. I will say about

647
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Jack Armnson. He is strong as shit. He's a very

648
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: good grappler. And there's a couple of things like when Gon,

649
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: for example, against in Ghandho, was trying to go for

650
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: the heel hook, he wasn't reaping the knee. Or reaping

651
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: the knee would mean if I have one of your legs,

652
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: my outside leg just fully comes over and turns your

653
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: knee sort of let's say inward, which you cannot do.

654
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: And for example IBJJF competitions, but in MME, they don't

655
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: give a shit. You can reap the knee all you want.

656
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: He didn't do it, well, motherfucker. Go watch that Kelvin

657
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: Gasolin fight, dude. He has horsepower and torque and a

658
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: little bit of evil intentions. And any mistake that Sean

659
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: Strickland makes, dude, Jack her Manson will be on his

660
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: ass about it. The thing is, when you go to

661
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: the Cannoneer fight, look at how systematically Cannoneer was able

662
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: to break grips, create asymmetry and control positions and get away.

663
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: I do think that Cannoneer is probably a more athletic,

664
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: dynamic scrambler than Sean Strickland. But there was a bit

665
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: of a blueprint laid there that I think that someone

666
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: as talented and as experience as San Strickland can probably follow.

667
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: Or Manson has the better experience against bigger names.

668
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: Doesn't have a ton of five round experience, though, has

669
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: gone that full distance twice, getting a decision win and

670
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: the decision loss to Vittori. There I mentioned Sean Strickland

671
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: went the full five his last time out against your

672
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: Eye Hall and absolutely dominated that this one more likely

673
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: to go the distance or not in your eyes, Luke.

674
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Strickland's average fight time is thirteen minutes. That's fairly long

675
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: for an elite fighter who is a striker. That's not

676
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: usually you have him in the ten or under range,

677
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: which tells you he kind of takes his time. He

678
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: really works on it, you know. He One of the

679
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: things I like about Sean Strickland is when he needs

680
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: to be a combination puncher and striker, he can be. However,

681
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: when he needs to pot shot you and really stick

682
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: a fucking mean jab in your face. By the way,

683
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this either. Sean Strickland with that jab,

684
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: he is great at rhythm disruption, which I think is

685
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: going to be key against the guy like Jack Romanson,

686
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: never letting him get set and never letting him get comfortable,

687
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: constantly on the defense of constantly having to reset, rethink, retool.

688
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Sean Strickland's really good at that. He's also due to

689
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: a little sadistic like it does actually show up a

690
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: little bit in his fight style. He likes to demean

691
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: the opponent, at least in the middle of the octagon.

692
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: I think afterwards he actually tends to be a pretty

693
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: good professional about it. But you know, in competition, dude's

694
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: fucking mean business and he he is kind of nasty

695
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: with it.

696
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and look it's you end up loving those

697
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: guys in the long run that fight with that type

698
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 3: of just I don't give a shit, like you know this,

699
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: this is competition, but this is fucking fight at the

700
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: end of the day, Luke, So I'm right here for that.

701
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this f and fight, Luke.

702
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: I like a lot of reasons why Strickland will win

703
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: this and maybe should win this, But there's so much

704
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: potential for this to be a back and forth adjustment heavy,

705
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: you know, real five round fight to tell us who's

706
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: really ready for that upper window, and you know this

707
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: is five versus seven, and there's three other potential matchups

708
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: in the top six of guys that are gonna be

709
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: fighting each other soon. So this feels like, you know,

710
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: a mini tournament here where the winner's gonna go far.

711
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: So if Sean Strickland's going to be the winner, Luke

712
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: and I and I'll predict that he will be. I

713
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: think he's gonna have to go five. But I think, Luke,

714
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: what I want to see if that prediction comes true,

715
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: is him like we talked about, on his back where

716
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: it's not just quick reversal or you know, work like

717
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: a spaz to get up where he's gotta make some

718
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: decisions here and fight off grappling situations with her Manson

719
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: and really show us. I guess that's what I look

720
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: at look for the most when a guy is at

721
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: this point of man. He's got some good wins, he's

722
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: got great momentum, but is he really of that title? Ilk,

723
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: You've got to show us some of those hidden in tangibles.

724
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: For me, it's I gotta see that Sean Strickland can

725
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: make key adjustments. I gotta see that he can rally

726
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: from behind and change the success of his opponent. A

727
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 3: lot of guys look great in first year and he

728
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: was going downhill against jerryah Hall for five rounds and

729
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: completely own that. But like some of the fears I

730
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: had for a Goan going in there against a ghanu is,

731
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: you got to see them when someone's really putting them

732
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: in the uh, you know, up against their heels there.

733
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: So I think Hermanson's going to have those moments. But Strickland,

734
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: by decision feels safe, feels like a happy place here.

735
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: Luke of a of a prediction for a result.

736
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: I'll like Strickland to stop him. I think he'll stop him.

737
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: But I'll say the reason why I like this fight,

738
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: when I think it's so interesting to me, is that

739
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Jack Hermanson has done something that Sean Strickland has not yet,

740
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: which is he did make it into the top five

741
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: I believe are pretty close and then kind of got

742
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: bounced out. He kind of made his way to earn

743
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: those Cannoneer type fights, for example, the victory fights, but

744
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: then he found himself a little bit not ready for that.

745
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: This is a question of can he retool from those

746
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: experiences and I just reenter the top five it's six

747
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: versus seven. I think he's aid five to seven and

748
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: six versus seven, Well my screen, anyway, can he get

749
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: back to that place and then and then finally make

750
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: that push through to get a title shot. We shall

751
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: see Sean Strickland's actually similar position, not that he was

752
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: in the top five before and is looking to re enter.

753
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: Rather if you look at his career and again not

754
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: that takedown defense per se was the thing that got him.

755
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: But guys like Kamaru, who again is quite special, we're

756
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: able to have some success if he can clean up

757
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: that which we think he has, remember no takedowns, giving

758
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: up in the last seven fights, and then take the

759
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: things he was already good at and get even better

760
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: at them. He will now get his chance to go

761
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: into the top five and we'll see what he can

762
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: do there. That's a very deep end of the division,

763
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: as we know, not just numerically, but you look at

764
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: the names the Tori, Kennaneer, Brunson, Costa, Whitaker, and then

765
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: of course out of signing at the top, but he

766
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: will have certainly earned it. So here are guys who

767
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: are trying to say the ghosts of my pasts do

768
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: not define my future. We will see who is correct.

769
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea on hand speed here, because

770
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: if you're looking, look, Strickland's going to be on you

771
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: for five rounds. The volume is going to be high.

772
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: It's going to accumulate and damage without question. So you know,

773
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: is her Manson a great counter striker. You know that's

774
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 3: not a sporte.

775
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: Will he have the hand speed to make this a

776
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: back and forth on the feet if it has to.

777
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think the issue will be hand speed. Forced

778
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: to answer the question, you're asking, all side with Strickland

779
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: as probably the better hand speed. What I will say

780
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: is go back to these and it is a very

781
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: different fighter, obviously, but go back to the Strickland versus

782
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: Jack Marshman fight. I believe that's the one that is refreshed.

783
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: Let me just verify here, Yes, I believe that is correct.

784
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: Watch the timing on his jab. You don't in the

785
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: words of Floyd Mayweather, you don't have to be faster,

786
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: you just have to have better timing. Floyd is fast,

787
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: but that's not what makes him so good. What makes

788
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: him so good is he sees the windows that no

789
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: one else does, and he gets to them and to

790
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: the target before his opponents. Sen Strickland is not just

791
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: a tone setter with his jab. At times, he and

792
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: a rhythm disruptor. I think he's the guy who takes

793
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: the more opportune and has the better vision to make

794
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: those choices. I think that might be the deciding factor.

795
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: Damn.

796
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: I love this fight, looking forward to on Saturday, the

797
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: great fight before we get into the Kazakh Hero of

798
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: your heart and increasingly everyone else is in what should

799
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: be an excellent fight. This co main event is going

800
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: to be action at the very least when Puna Lehi

801
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Soriano enters at middleweight as a minus one to ninety

802
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: favorite according to DraftKings against the plus one sixty Nick Maximov,

803
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: Who's you know more of a fresher face on the scene, Luke,

804
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: As these two pair offf and a very important fight,

805
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: even with Soriano coming off of a defeat, who do

806
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: you feel like has.

807
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: The potential brighter future hair as these two guys matchup.

808
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I I think Soriano is actually

809
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: a little more MMA ready where he seems. First of all,

810
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: I think he's obviously a better striker that that's probably

811
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: not too much in debate. But I think he's just

812
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more game for some of the rough

813
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: and rugged things that Mma offers. The problem is these

814
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: two have just wildly different skill sets. Maximov is, you know,

815
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: in many ways, only a ground operator. I mean, this

816
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: is you know, dude, he's seven fights in. You know, man,

817
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a wise decision for even

818
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: very good prospects to be in the UFC when you

819
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: only have seven and by the way, I think one

820
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: or two of those is contender series in the one

821
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: UFC fight. Like dude, he came in very early in

822
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: his career and Soriano in the same situation. He's only

823
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: got nine total fights. So both these guys are just,

824
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of junior in their career to

825
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: this point. But I would say Soriano just seems a

826
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: little bit more willing to mix it up. The problem

827
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: is he's a little too willing to take risks. Remember

828
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: what happened with Devison Figuedo against Marino. Figuredo changed some

829
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: things up about what he was throwing and whatnot, but

830
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: the big difference was he dialed back just the junk

831
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: he was throwing, where he could had be a much

832
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: more concentrated, focused attack and not just throw volume for

833
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: volume sake. I think Soriano could learn from that experience.

834
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: He knows how to throw great, great strikes, he knows

835
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: how to make good reads. He is well trained, again

836
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: comes from extreme coutura. These are not people who don't

837
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: know how to make champions. That's exactly what they know

838
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: how to make. And Soriano is a game fighter, but

839
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: it just seems like sometimes he can get out in

840
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: front of his skis with decisions he didn't have to

841
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: make the way he made them. Dial it back a

842
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: little bit, calm down, and I think that guy, with

843
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more focus could be a real handful

844
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: in this division for a lot of guys. We'll see

845
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: if that's what he's got for Maximov.

846
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you take that lightning Bolton side of you

847
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: that makes you special if you're Puna Soriano and just

848
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: harness it a bit so it doesn't end up being

849
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: used against you. And he leveled off a bit plateauing

850
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: and that decision loss to Brendan Allen.

851
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: But this is now the chance to show what he

852
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: has worked on.

853
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: And as much as Maximov may want this to go

854
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 3: to the ground, Luke Soriano's going to be luring him

855
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: into a fight, you know, with the catnip, and that's

856
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: what makes him fun to watch. It's going to be

857
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: fun to see which direction he's going this fight a lot.

858
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: But Luke, let's get fired the hell up for the

859
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: third trip to the octagon for one welterweight chopcat Rockmaninov.

860
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: It always triggers that Willie Wonka scene with the with

861
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: the Germans piano to open the door.

862
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too far off the exit for you here, Luke.

863
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: He's going in there against Carlston Harris and Rockmanov has

864
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: big time, next big thing vibes even separate from the

865
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: Schmesh factory fellas from a couple you know, one hundred

866
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: thousand miles over there in the Eurasian Crossover area taucas

867
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: Mountain region extended, Luke, get me off the map, get

868
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: me back into this fight. How fired up were you

869
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: to see your guy back at it for a third time?

870
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Super excited? And also I would have really caution, folks,

871
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: I actually feel like this is a tough fight, Like

872
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: this is not one of situations where like, oh I'm

873
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: high on Schofcott Rockmanov and he's just gonna roll over

874
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, he might, but I'm actually expecting

875
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: a pretty tough fight. Carlston Harris is interesting. He is

876
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: older and he's getting a chance at the big show

877
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: later in his athletic career. But he's lanky. It doesn't

878
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: show up in the numbers and say he has less

879
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: of a reach than Romanov, But if you look at

880
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the tape, he's got deadlift arms. I mean, the dude

881
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: stands up and he can scratch his knees. I'm very

882
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: jealous of of the what he can do, and he

883
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: wisely this is what I love. Like we always like,

884
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: why didn't Steven Struve fight tall? You're fucking tall, fight tall.

885
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: Not that he's tall per se, although he's not short.

886
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: What I mean to say is if you've got long arms,

887
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: man use him. And he does great bodylock attacks. He

888
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: gets to the body lot quickly. He can fire you

889
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different directions. He really understands how

890
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: to use it. It's a big portion of his game.

891
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: I think his striking mechanics that range are a little

892
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: bit sloppy, and you might see Rockmanov take advantage of that.

893
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: But he's got big power. He is absolutely willing to

894
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: throw and he's undefeated in the UFC just like Rockmanov. Dude,

895
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: but they both have one hundred percent takedown defense. They both

896
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: have about, you know, commensurate level. I would say that

897
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: the wins that Rockmano has are a little bit better,

898
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: but like the guys that Harris had fought in Aguilera

899
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: and Kasank and I stopped them both in the first

900
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: round one side. So dude, he's a skilled guy as well.

901
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: This should be a very interesting and tough test.

902
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: You know when when Sean Shelby made that nice cameo

903
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: and documentary number six, you know where BC was like, man,

904
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: you're doing a great job. They're doing him mcmhnard, they're

905
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: doing a great job. When with you know, there's a

906
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: fight night car that isn't isn't deep in the traditional sense,

907
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: but man, we got banger versus banger in very important

908
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: fights right here as we look at it now, rochmanoff

909
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: with the the big reputation coming in following those two

910
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: submission wins is minus two forty but respect to Carlston

911
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Harris at plus one nine to five. Damn uh, what

912
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: do you want to see?

913
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: Because you know, watching the two demolitions that that Shavkottas

914
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: has has had Look, he showed you everything that makes

915
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: him scary, and he's got next level poise. He has

916
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: sort of the movements and swagger and timing and technique

917
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: of a championship level fighter. To be fair, what do

918
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: you want to see either situations he's placed in or

919
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: what what are you expecting in this regard from what

920
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: you want to see in this fourth test Shofcott Rockmanov.

921
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: The reason why he captured my attention with only two

922
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: fights was I was blown away. I'm gonna go back

923
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: to it because I didn't get it well. I did

924
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: the postfight show, but I didn't get a chance to

925
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: talk about it with UBC, which was, you know, some

926
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: of the errors that Gon made. One of my big

927
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: reads on Gon was I was really sort of lauding

928
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: his decision making because a large portion of it was

929
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: just a function now in retrospect anyway of what he

930
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: was doing in clinch situations, which can involve certain forms

931
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: of wrestling, but obviously at range as well and in

932
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: that space, his decision making was just superb. He can't.

933
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he went five rounds with Francis and

934
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: did frances Land clean on him one time except to

935
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: the body not really right. I mean, it's it's pretty

936
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: impressive that he was able to do that and all

937
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: of his other fights as well, But then it turned

938
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: out when it went to the ground, his decision making

939
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: isn't nearly as good because he's just not nearly as

940
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: experienced in that he doesn't really understand the full complexities

941
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: of that game in the way that he should in

942
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: my judgment, and so there's a bit of a gap there.

943
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: There is no gap there with shofc cut rock Monov

944
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: when you watch him, he, by the way, this is

945
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: not some guy like you know, hums out Chimayav might

946
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: end up being better, but he comes out of the

947
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: first round like a fucking shot out of a cannon, right.

948
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he just comes at you full bore, and

949
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: that really captures your attention. Rockmanov is the exact opposite.

950
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: He very much is a first round let's see what

951
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: things are happening here, doesn't want to give up too much,

952
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't punt on the round, but does you just

953
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: look at him? He is making read after read. Floyd

954
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: Mayweather's best rounds are almost never his first because what

955
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: is he doing he's just doing this. Rockmanov does the

956
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: exact same thing, but by round two, that is when

957
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: you see him really ratchet up the intensity and once

958
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: he starts laying into his game, you just realize how

959
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: many layers this guy has. He is an excellent decision maker,

960
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: he is very well rounded, he has athletic he is

961
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: much younger than his opponent as well. This is a

962
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I think, a very difficult fight and a tough test

963
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: with a tricky, kind of unusual opponent. But for a

964
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: guy like Rockmanov, if he is who we think he is,

965
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: and then again, we're only two fights and let's see.

966
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: But I feel like on tape what we have seen

967
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: as a guy who is so thorough that that fourteen

968
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: and OHO is in no way an accident. He is

969
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: skilled to the nth degree.

970
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: Harris the first guy in Eastbourne fighter to earn a

971
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: victory in the UFC. And look, he was saying that

972
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: just him making it to the UFC started this MMA

973
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: boom in his home country, that there was no footprint

974
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: before that. That's so close to Brazil. I find that

975
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: hard to believe. Luke, you know more about South America

976
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: than I do.

977
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't know much about that side of South America.

978
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: I only know the sort of the Spanish speaking other

979
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: side a little bit. He's got an interesting accent, like

980
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: he sounds almost slightly Jamaican, but mixed with all this

981
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: other stuff. The Caribbean's funny that way, all these cultures

982
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: come together and blend and it ends up being a

983
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: ton of unusual different things. I know he trains in

984
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: Rio de Janeiro, so he's training at Brazilian gyms and

985
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: it's done wonders for him. He is quite good, but

986
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly the impact on you know, what's

987
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: happening in that part of the world.

988
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: I used to work with a guy from Guyana at

989
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: the at the factory, Luke. When I was there, I

990
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: was a shipping manager and he's a big cricket guy, Luke,

991
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: not Mma. So maybe maybe that's the case, all right, Luke.

992
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: Is it more likely that this plays out like in

993
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva versus Chris Liban type affair, or that we

994
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: find out legitimate answers in terms of what Rockmanov's made

995
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: of when when pushed a little.

996
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: Bit, Yes, again, this is a guy who you watch

997
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: him on the feet, he's a little loose. Sometimes his

998
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: mechanics are a little bit you know, rough around the edges,

999
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: I'll say, which is why I think Rockmanov might be

1000
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that. But a tricky opponent

1001
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: is still one where even if you're better than them,

1002
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: if you're not better in the way that you need

1003
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: to be on that particular night, you can lose. I

1004
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: would caution though about reading too much into this win.

1005
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Let's even say that rock Monov goes in there and

1006
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: blows the fucking doors off of him, right, I still

1007
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: would be very slow down, like a talk to people

1008
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: around him. You know, in his camp, they kind of

1009
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: believe that, like this first contract of four fights, they're

1010
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: just doing this to get him experience. They say, no

1011
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: one wants to fight him. Carlton Harris obviously is up

1012
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: for the Carlston Carlton of the name is I forget exactly,

1013
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: but you get the idea that they're just trying to

1014
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: get this guy reps. So if he wins, great, If

1015
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: he wins big, even better, But everyone slow the role

1016
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: about the ultimate upside. I yes, I believe in him,

1017
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: but he still has to prove it. And this is

1018
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: a nice win, but not a formative win.

1019
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: Carl Carlson Carlston Carlston is the name.

1020
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: Before we circle too far out of this YouTube dot

1021
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: com slash Morning Combat is of course our channel that

1022
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: we hope you're like and subscribing to, and plenty of

1023
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: great interviews there. Luke our Boy Shaq Majordi of Vancouver

1024
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: fame CBS Sports has also on his own channel been

1025
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: putting out a consistent flow stuff I forgot. He did

1026
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: talk to Jacker Manson ahead of time about the ridiculousness

1027
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: of Sean Strickland and you know, getting kind of turned

1028
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: off by some of those comments. I wanted to give

1029
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: a chance to throw to that before we circle too

1030
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: far away.

1031
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: Sally, do we have that? Sally? Are you with me?

1032
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Sally, are you with me?

1033
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? He's got one. Were talking about Strickland? You got

1034
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: that or whatever you got played.

1035
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready to just play whatever you have. Let's see.

1036
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Things he says and the things he writes. Just what

1037
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: goes through your mind.

1038
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 6: Now you're just shaking your head, you know, and you

1039
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 6: know it's just another crazy thing on the internet, right.

1040
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 6: It just happens to be my opponent's this time.

1041
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 5: So do you think if he could get away with it.

1042
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: Do you really think he would kill someone?

1043
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that if he got

1044
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 7: the opportunity to do a death match, Oh yeah, that

1045
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 7: that he he would agree on it, you know, and fight,

1046
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 7: fight to the death.

1047
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: If the Mummy was right. I feel like he's a

1048
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 6: guy that would say, yes, I would do it.

1049
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: Look, this guy's shock just just going for it.

1050
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: I guess, Luke, he's like, you know, you you think

1051
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 3: he you know, here is something you you probably can't understand.

1052
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: He could just kill a man. Think he'd do it?

1053
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: Uh interesting, dude, Duke, Duke, Duke, dud, dud, Dude.

1054
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: We haven't seen a sanctioned death match since Daniel LaRusso

1055
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 3: versus chosen in the final scene of Karate Kid Part two.

1056
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: I was in Yeah remember those things that.

1057
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got, I got.

1058
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: I always buy those on vacation, like when you're in

1059
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: like South of the Border or something, and then you yeah,

1060
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: I got a lot of those in my life.

1061
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: All right. Uh So, look, any other fights of note

1062
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: on this card, storylines that you're interested.

1063
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: In, not a whole lot. Juliana Rossa is a fun

1064
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: fighter that could be kind of interesting. Brandon Allen against

1065
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Sam Alvi. Brendan Allen I had a lot of uh

1066
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: I still have a lot of respect for, but has

1067
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: had a couple of trip ups. This is a chance

1068
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: for him to you know, get another w I think

1069
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: he should win that fight. I guess we'll see. Other

1070
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: than that, it's interesting. Alexis Davis is on this card.

1071
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: She's been going for a while. Chitty and Jri Kawani

1072
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: is a fun one too. Right here was a guy

1073
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: who kind of toiled on the His brother Anthony was

1074
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: a great WC fighter, had a great win over Chris Horrdeski.

1075
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: Chitty was always the one who was kind of a

1076
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: little bit in the shadow. Had a decent run in Belatour,

1077
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: actually good run in Belatour, but not not the perfect one.

1078
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: Shine like a motherfucker on the Contender series, and here

1079
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: he is in the UF see great striker, great reads.

1080
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: I think both those guys, I'm not sure if they

1081
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: still are, but it for one time. We're out of

1082
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: one kick Nick his gym. We'll see, we'll see what

1083
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: he's got.

1084
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: Interesting fight, dude, Michael Tresano, who is fighting him? Is

1085
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: he's a fun fighter. Luke from the Ultimate fighter makes

1086
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 3: fun fighting.

1087
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I know, dude, I couldn't tell you who's from the

1088
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter and who is not at this point, So

1089
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect, but I've not paid such little

1090
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: attention to it that I don't quite understand that aspect

1091
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: of the matchup sometimes right like fuck yeah, fuck that shit.

1092
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: Bro Alright.

1093
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: Our third topic, Luke, is the the boxing pay per

1094
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 3: view of the weekend PBC on Fox offering welterweights, and

1095
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: it is one Keith one time Thurman, returning back to

1096
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: action for the first time in two plus years due

1097
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: to injuries, fatherhood, the pandemic. One of the biggest stars

1098
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: in this one hundred and forty seven pound division over

1099
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: the last decade. I mean when he stepped away for

1100
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: the first time for a two year absence beginning of

1101
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, he had the best resume among walter waights.

1102
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 3: But Luke, it's now thirty three years old, coming back

1103
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: against a hungry Mario Barrios moving up to one forty

1104
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: seven for the first time. But we saw Brios against

1105
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: Tank Davis at one last June and Brios put was

1106
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: there there to fight until he was stopped late. Luke,

1107
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: we've I've gone up, up and down on this card

1108
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: storylines wise. We've heard from Keith the interview I had

1109
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: with him. Yeah, you can debate whether seventy four ninety

1110
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: five and whether this is an actual pay per view

1111
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: worthy main event. It's an action worthy fight with a

1112
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 3: lot of meaning and stakes in terms of the future

1113
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: of both How do you sort of read the importance.

1114
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: Of this fight and how competitive you expect it to be.

1115
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: I hate that this fight is on pay per view

1116
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: in part because more Godzilla's here.

1117
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: Yes Twoky's like, fuck this country, you know what I mean?

1118
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: Bro, Yesterday was a motherfucking calamity in the Miami Airport. Okay,

1119
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. I hate that it's on pay

1120
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: per view because it's actually people are like, oh, I

1121
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: don't want to pay for it, right, because if you

1122
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: take away the pay per view aspect, I imagine this

1123
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: was like for free on Showtime or something. Dude, We

1124
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: not just that it's on showtime for you on BBC,

1125
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: free on ESPN whatever. We'd be fucking pumped for this.

1126
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: We'd be like, hell, yeah, dude, not want to miss

1127
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: this is the one you got to see. But because

1128
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: it's behind a paywall. Folks would begin to ask different

1129
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: questions about the fight that it really can't answer properly

1130
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: in terms of its value proposition. Here's what I would

1131
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: say I love about this fight. Dude, Mario Barrios never

1132
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: been a true welterweight before. Let's see if he can

1133
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: do it. Seems like he's got the frame for it, right,

1134
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: I think seventy one inch reach. He's pretty tall, so

1135
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: you wonder what he can do. He was I thought

1136
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: pretty game against one of the more dominant punchers at

1137
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: light welterweight against Tank Davis. Ultimately couldn't hold up. But

1138
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, dude, he give it a spirited affair, no

1139
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: doubt about it. He's a fucking dog and younger has

1140
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: been in the trenches here a little bit, has been

1141
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: more active. He's himself daring to be great here taking

1142
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: on Tank Davis and Keith Thurman in back to back fight.

1143
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: So you gotta love that. But with Keith Thurman man, dude,

1144
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: two fights in five years. Everyone's only talking about the

1145
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: three or almost three year layoff he's been on. He

1146
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: was on a fucking layoff before that, and he's had

1147
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: hand injuries and surgeries. Look at this line. I think

1148
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: it's from DraftKings. They may have moved a little bit

1149
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: since I pulled this up on my screen. BC they've

1150
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: got Thurman at minus one eighty and Barrios at plus

1151
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: one forty five. Folks, if you're an MMA fan, you

1152
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: don't appreciate that you see that kind of a lineup

1153
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: where two guys are either minus one something or plus

1154
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: one something in a UFC main event all the time

1155
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: in boxing? How many times do we go into a

1156
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: fight weekend where someone is minus four hundred, minus seven hundred,

1157
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: minus one thousand or something.

1158
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: Even in a fight, by the way, even in a

1159
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: fight that could be competitive, sometimes you're like, well it

1160
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: could be competitive, but the be side's not gonna win.

1161
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: You know, that's right. How about Wilder versus Fury three,

1162
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: they had I think it was a minus two or

1163
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: three hundred in either direction, Not this one, Folks. The

1164
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: odds makers are like, this is as competitive a man

1165
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: of in boxing as they more or less come. You

1166
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: don't see this very often, and there's good reason and

1167
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: big questions to ask about liking both sides or wondering

1168
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: about both sides.

1169
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the more skilled? It's Keith Thurman.

1170
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: But you can't dodge the questions of two fights in

1171
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: five years, two and a half years off.

1172
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: And even in those two fights.

1173
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: Luke, the second one was I always argued that might

1174
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: have been Thurman's best performance. I know he beat Tean

1175
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: Porter in a classic and beat Danny Garcia in a

1176
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: close fight, but the performance Keith Thurman had a defeat

1177
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 3: against Manny Pacio.

1178
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: He was great after that, probably.

1179
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: Not late, you mean, because early he got run over.

1180
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 3: Well, not really run over, he got surprised in knocked

1181
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: down in the first round. It took him a while

1182
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: to pick up on Pacio's speed, and I think Pakio

1183
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: started to slow down rightfully so at forty in the

1184
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: middle part of that fight, and that's when Thurman stepped

1185
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 3: on the gas. And I think you saw at least

1186
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: but here's what I'm saying. You saw the perfect balance

1187
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: of what he is, a boxer, puncher who can do

1188
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 3: it all. And but let's not forget just a couple

1189
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: of months before that, he almost got stopped by Hose

1190
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 3: Lopez in a comeback fight from two years off due

1191
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 3: to major surgeries and a guy not a big puncher,

1192
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: who just jumped all over him. At one point late

1193
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: in that fight, and you're like, oh, God, is Keith's

1194
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: channing question?

1195
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 2: You know what's going on here?

1196
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: So considering the questions, this is a great fight because

1197
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: Barrios is the perfect fighter style wise and dog wise,

1198
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: which is most important. As you mentioned, to give him

1199
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble, to check his gas tank, to

1200
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: hurt him surprisingly like Holos of Stito Lopez did. But

1201
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: if you're telling me I'm getting seventy five percent of

1202
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 3: the Thurman from that Pacchio fight, I still think he

1203
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: wins a decision in a fun fight, Luke. That's why

1204
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: the odds are there with still Thurman as a favorite

1205
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: despite the questions. And if Thurman wins, dude, you're talking

1206
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: maybe Terrence Crawford next, maybe the winner of Spence Ugas.

1207
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking big time fights. Do you do

1208
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: you think those those blind spots, those those weak areas

1209
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: are gonna are gonna come to the surface with Thurman.

1210
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: And that's thirty three in.

1211
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: This Dude, it's not just about beating Barrios for Thurman.

1212
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: The question is like what kind of Thurman? And can

1213
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: we get the Thurman that we once saw? So you

1214
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: mentioned that he beat Porter and Garcia and back to

1215
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: back fights. Boy, those wins have aged well, but aged

1216
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: is the key term there. Porter he beat in twenty sixteen,

1217
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: Garcia he beat in twenty seventeen. Folks, it's been a

1218
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: fucking while since he was doing work like that. He

1219
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: used to beat back me up if I'm wrong, BC,

1220
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: or tell me if I'm wrong. Rather, he used to

1221
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: be I think, a pretty fucking dominant puncher in that

1222
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: weight class. But he's had hand issues and surgery since then.

1223
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: So could he get by beating Mario Barrios on some

1224
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: new style of stick and move where he can't really

1225
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: commit to punches in the way he did before. In

1226
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: its own right, that would kind of be impressive, But

1227
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: that's not the old one time Keith Thurmon. That's not

1228
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: who that guy is. That would be a new guy.

1229
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: What I'm looking to see is, is there a new guy?

1230
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Has he turned a corner into something else, either by

1231
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: necessity or by choice, or has the time off refrain him.

1232
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: He's he able to go back to what he was

1233
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: doing before, where he was kind of a hammer with

1234
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: the punches. And I think Barrios, by the way, could

1235
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: be the perfect guy because he's a little bit of

1236
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: a dog when he wants to be too, at least

1237
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: he has been to this point. So to me, it's

1238
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: a question of Barrios' upside and where he's gonna end

1239
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: up potentially if he stays in this weight class. But

1240
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: it's also a question of just who is Keith Thurman

1241
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. There's just no way to know.

1242
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: He was a dominant puncher on the way up, which

1243
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: is why he had the one time nickname.

1244
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: You know.

1245
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: Hand issues definitely were a factor, but also I think,

1246
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: you know, he fell in love with the with the

1247
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: boxing side of it, and I think the only fear

1248
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: in that is does he box more than he should punch,

1249
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, for the wrong reasons. Some people think he

1250
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: was going in the wrong direction in the second half

1251
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: of the Danny Garcia fight and was sort of circling

1252
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: away from the action. Well, I didn't see him do

1253
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: that against Pakiao. You know, he got hurt late in

1254
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: that fight too with a body shot. He kept coming,

1255
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: so I'm not as fearful about that. But one thing

1256
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: he did say is this is the first time his

1257
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: left hand and if you look back at him as

1258
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: a finisher, Yeah, the overhand right is big, but that

1259
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: left hook sets up so much. He says his left

1260
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: hand is healthy for the first time in years.

1261
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1262
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: Guys always say they feel, you know, best ever coming

1263
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: into a big comeback. I hope that's the same for Keith,

1264
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: because if he wins this, luke the future.

1265
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some fun fights with him.

1266
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, just ask yourself, dude, Like, like, even without Keith Thurman,

1267
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: one with one forty seven has been an incredible division.

1268
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: Now if you can get him back as a player,

1269
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: it's like you're just playing with house money. At that point.

1270
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: There's a million different fights you could make if Keith

1271
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: Thurman is really who is? Or or how about this

1272
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: you we're like, I mean, yes, it would be nice

1273
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: to have Keith Thurman back as a as a player,

1274
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 1: and you could do some rematches or some fun new fights.

1275
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: But what I mean to say is this, it would

1276
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if Mario Barrios doesn't just like

1277
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: we we all imagine that if Barrios wins that he

1278
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: might like squeak by or oh Keith looks like shit?

1279
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: Well what if Keith actually looks pretty good? Good early

1280
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: and Mario Barrios shows us a degree of development that

1281
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: we haven't seen to this point. You remember, he's still

1282
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: in his twenties. He's gonna grow a lot. Fight over

1283
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: fight over fight, You're still gonna see a little bit that.

1284
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: What if he comes in there and just absolutely blows

1285
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: us away, wouldn't that be a fun new name to

1286
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: the division as well? So to me, it's like, I

1287
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: don't want to see what I want to see from

1288
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Keith Thurman, win or lose is I want to see

1289
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: competitive fire. I want to see that he's got something

1290
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: for us, because you can imagine, dude, maybe he's been

1291
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: like I've been working on this, I've got all the stuff.

1292
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: I feel much better, But the ring rust doesn't let

1293
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: him show us that this time. Maybe the next time

1294
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: it does. There's still some hope for Keith Thurman in

1295
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. Let's not lose out of

1296
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: that either.

1297
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: That's why you can't overlook the degree of difficulty of

1298
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: what he's doing here with no tune up fight against

1299
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: a hungry guy who can totally who can expose those

1300
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: blind spots in him. You know, no two boxing's tough.

1301
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: You fight even less than an m A. You know,

1302
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: per year per average, and you're you're only as good

1303
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: as your last fight because people are gonna hold that

1304
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: performance and those fears against you in a lot of ways.

1305
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: But seeing ture of false, trure false, this pay per

1306
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: view will tank and Keith Thurman will still make more

1307
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: than Francis and Gan who made for his last tie. Yeah.

1308
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.

1309
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: People are coming out of nowhere with here's what I made,

1310
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: and it's still more than in Ghana for every situation lately,

1311
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: and each one makes you go, oh, oh shit, man,

1312
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: like really you know, like that damn all right. So

1313
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: it's a shame that Sean Porter retired only from the

1314
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: standpoint that I really would have loved the rematch between them.

1315
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned those two fights for Thurman, the

1316
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: Danny Garcia and Sean Port. Those were both on CBS

1317
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: Luke in prime time, Like that was they did like

1318
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: six million viewers, Like that was a big At five

1319
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: million views, that was like a big ass deal. Thurman

1320
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: has talked about potentially fighting Bud Crawford next if it's

1321
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: on the table, if they can make it work, We're

1322
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: all interested in seeing which what whoever signs Bud Crawford,

1323
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: And I heard Eddie Hern talk about you know the pit,

1324
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: you know, the the does he want to or not?

1325
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: When he sat down with Aeriel on the end of

1326
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: the hour of like, you know, there's that financial divide.

1327
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: We all want to promote you know, uh, Terrence Crawford,

1328
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: but will he take the amount of money that'll be

1329
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 3: more commensurate with what kind of views they can get

1330
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: on pay per view? Either way, Thurman wins here, I

1331
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: want him next against Crawford and I want the winner

1332
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: to fight the winner of who got Spence. But to

1333
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: close here, Luke Leo Santa Cruz also win the co

1334
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: main event, not against the guy who I think is

1335
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: gonna give him anything, but it's it's the first time

1336
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 3: he's back since the knockout lost to Gervonte, so it

1337
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: is important. But in the main event, Luke, who wins

1338
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: and why?

1339
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: When? How?

1340
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: That's a tough one, dude, I really don't know, but

1341
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'll go Thurman in a close one,

1342
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: Thurman in a close one, I I don't know, dude,

1343
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Like obviously, dude, I don't fucking know, dude. It's Keith

1344
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: gun to my head. Thurman in a close one.

1345
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: It's Keith Thurman.

1346
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: So even if he comes back at thirty three and

1347
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: shakes off most of the rust, I think you're right.

1348
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: I think he's still gonna win a decision, but giority

1349
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: decision or you know, one fifteen one to thirteen unanimous

1350
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: decision where we're like, okay, yeah, he did the better work,

1351
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: but what about round three and then seven he was

1352
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: a little clunky and oh god, what happened when he

1353
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: got you know, so there's gonna be some questions, and

1354
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: I think Barrios is good enough to create those questions.

1355
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Give me Thurman by decision. That is the bet, that's

1356
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: the uh, that's the direction.

1357
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: But I don't think Tuki is yelling enough today? Can

1358
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: she yell more?

1359
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: Maybe she was? She predicting a Barrios upset, Luke, I

1360
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: couldn't translate that.

1361
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's no, she's singing fucking all the

1362
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: Lynn Manuel Miranda songs from fucking in Conto.

1363
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: It's oh, yeah, that's your that's you. That's the soundtrack

1364
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: of your life, Luke. No, say, Luis Snari against Carlos

1365
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: Castro is a ten round fight that's gonna be very

1366
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: important with nary coming off of that knockout loss to

1367
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: Brandon Figueroa and their title sort of unification.

1368
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Speaker 1: Boy, he did he not come into that that Charlo

1369
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: doubleheader with like the wind at his back? Dude? Yeah?

1370
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: Now yeah, then had and then they had the close

1371
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: he had the close fight with Alameda was way too

1372
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: close it was supposed to be. And then Figureoa tuned

1373
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: him up. And I'm like, dude, has some questions to

1374
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: answer now.

1375
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: He has some questions if he can carry the power

1376
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: at this weight class. He always has questions about making weight.

1377
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

1378
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: I think what happened is that fight you're talking about

1379
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: on the pay per view he had Canelo's coach, Eddie Reinoso,

1380
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: and I think they tried to turn him into a

1381
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: boxer Luke, and it just didn't work. And that's fine.

1382
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: But whether it was his lack of commitment or it

1383
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: just didn't work, you know, he went back to his

1384
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: original trainer immediately after, and dude, he just he got

1385
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: overrun by Figueroa's pressure and kind of gassed out and

1386
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: got stopped.

1387
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: You know. I mean it was a great body shot.

1388
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: That is going to be a great body shot in

1389
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: any circumstance, but it came at a point where you're like,

1390
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: is nary fading? Like is this it?

1391
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: So he's got a lot of questions to answer against

1392
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: Carlos Castro. Looking forward, there's a couple of other names

1393
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: worth watching, Rando Vargas junior on the undercard, who's got

1394
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: a couple of pro fights and it's looked pretty good.

1395
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: Uh Luke, Let's go over to topic number and that

1396
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 3: would be uh, how about this? Not yet confirmed by Showtime,

1397
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: the expected network for it, Luke, But there was social

1398
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: media look like a confirmation from one Brian Castanio that

1399
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: this junior middleweight in boxing undisputed championship rematch against Jamel Charlow,

1400
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: with the first one last year being a instant classic

1401
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: almost and a lot of people thought, hey, maybe Castano

1402
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: deserved that decision. There they're gonna do it a second time,

1403
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: it seems March nineteenth at I still can I say

1404
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: Staples Center forever Luke at Crypto dot Com Arena at

1405
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 3: the Dojah Coin Palace here Luke and Accord according to

1406
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 3: reports here boxing Scene dot Com saying regular showtime Luke

1407
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: is gonna be the home of this. We'll see if

1408
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: the network confirms it. And also ESPN reporting on the undercard.

1409
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: You know, your boy BC is gonna have a heart

1410
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: on from here to hand over. Tim Zoo gonna come

1411
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 3: to the US and take on very tough out Terrell

1412
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: Goche in a junior middleweight fight that could could be. Wow,

1413
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: you're talking about forecasting the future of what can happen,

1414
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: you know between that.

1415
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: I like that fight because uh old, Timmy's gonna have

1416
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: to work for it a little bit. But that's clearly

1417
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: designed to be like, Hey, everybody remember that guy cost

1418
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: A Zoo. Well, this guy's a bad motherfucker too, you know.

1419
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god for a debut.

1420
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 3: I feel like we skip over that too soon, meeting

1421
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 3: saying oh yeah, son of the Hall of Famer Coaches Zoo.

1422
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure everyone remembers Coaches Zoo, but god damn.

1423
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: He was a badass Luke Russian born but came of

1424
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: age in Australia and fought with a badass ponytail and

1425
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: just had knockout power, but with an incredible amateur pedigree

1426
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: and background to box with it. And look, he was

1427
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: hell at one hundred and forty pounds.

1428
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean his knockout of zab Judah where he turned

1429
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 3: him into a you know, a dancing zombie is one

1430
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: of the most you know, I mean that, God, I

1431
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: mean and then he lost his title to Ricky Hatton. Remember,

1432
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 3: and we're where he asked out after round eleven in

1433
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: an absolute war and retired right there.

1434
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 2: And he was a bad ass.

1435
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: But but but but tim Zu has been from what

1436
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: I have seen, electrifying. He is an electrifying fighter.

1437
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: At times he has he has great potential, but the

1438
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: main event is the is the bigger story. And God,

1439
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: I'm glad Brian Costano gets this second chance because Luke,

1440
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: he fucked great against Jermel and there was like, you know,

1441
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: scorecards that were like a little bit too wide and

1442
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: didn't make a ton of sense. And not only to

1443
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: see him get the second chance, but to see the

1444
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 3: boxing world embrace the news of this of like, hell, yeah,

1445
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 3: give me this fight. We love undisputed championships, we love

1446
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: rematches of great fights, Luke. So I want to see

1447
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: how Jamel Charlow adjusts, because this guy Kastanio is not

1448
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 3: going anywhere.

1449
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: He's in your face.

1450
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 3: But it's it's almost with an educatedly aggressive boxing attack.

1451
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: You know, there's it's it's it doesn't go over the

1452
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 3: line of reckless, and that's what makes him so tough.

1453
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: It's it's like, I don't I mean, obviously he's Argentinian,

1454
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: so I don't want to say it's a Mexican style,

1455
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: but it is somewhat reminiscent of the pressure and volume

1456
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: you sometimes get with that style, except tuned a little

1457
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: bit back to make it a little bit more strategic

1458
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: and not as damage intensive in terms of absorbing it,

1459
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: which obviously makes him very, very difficult. Charlo, I thought,

1460
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: gave it a decent run. I thought Casagia should have won,

1461
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: didn't go his way. But you could tell from that fight, dude.

1462
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about in the run up to

1463
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: with that, where the odds were close and people were

1464
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: kind of on both sides of it, and it's hard

1465
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: to tell. You know, Castano is a clever operator, and

1466
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: I think you learned from that one. And dude, Charlo's

1467
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: got his work cut out for him, no doubt about it.

1468
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: It's interesting if you could see the future and say

1469
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: Charlo wins, which would be a hell of a win,

1470
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: and he could further cement the idea that you know,

1471
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: he's on paper, he's the best one hundred and fifty

1472
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: four pound fighter in the world in terms of the

1473
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: accomplishments before their first fight. But it's like, if he wins,

1474
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: is it gonna be because Kastanio makes him knock him out?

1475
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: Or does Charlo have the potential?

1476
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: Because sometimes when when when a first fight is so

1477
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: close and fun and back and forth, sometimes in a

1478
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: lot of these situations, the better boxer in the rematch

1479
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: just goes, oh, I'll fight a little bit safer, rely

1480
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,919
Speaker 3: on my you know, athleticism, and mix with my smarts.

1481
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 3: And is there a potential where Charlo out boxes him

1482
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: somewhat cleanly and and and goes to another level? Those

1483
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 3: are the questions I want to see answer here.

1484
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that part, to me, I'm a little bit

1485
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: more skeptical of, although I do think people kind of

1486
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: think that Charlos are just kind of athletic punchers and

1487
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: not much else, and that's really not what the tape shows. However, However,

1488
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: I do think that you know, skill for skill, I'm

1489
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna say, Kristanyo Kastanio, excuse me, is a little bit

1490
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: more skilled than the Charlo's. But if you if you,

1491
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: if I if someone came from the future again. I

1492
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Charlo wins, and I had to sort

1493
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: of wrap my head around what that might mean. I'm

1494
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: gonna guess this from dominant punching. I do think that

1495
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: the first fight showed that the dominant power puncher of

1496
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: the two was definitely Charlo. It's just he didn't find

1497
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: enough opportunities to really lay that into Castano because he

1498
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: is quite clever. So let's see if he can change

1499
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: out the second time around.

1500
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.

1501
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: If if he feels like he landed his money shots

1502
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 3: and Castano didn't stop coming or didn't have to alter

1503
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: his game plan, that could be trouble.

1504
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1505
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Then then maybe.

1506
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: Charlo's does go to a more boxing intensive, speed based attack.

1507
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: But you know, Castano's not slow and and that pressure

1508
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: is smart, So can't wait for that one.

1509
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: Love it.

1510
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 3: March nineteenth, Luke. We're gonna close topic five with some

1511
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 3: quick hitters here, Jeremy Stevens, who in the apps since

1512
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 3: Luke has signed with PFL after the end of his

1513
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: UFC run and also has called out Anthony Pettis and

1514
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: called him fat and wants a rematch.

1515
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: Whether that moves you or not.

1516
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 3: Under the PFL banner, but he talked to Ariel in

1517
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 3: the MMA hour and said, I asked the UFC to

1518
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: give me a favorable matchup. I've been fighting beasts a

1519
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 3: murderer's row for two decades, and I just felt like

1520
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: I was getting iced out only fighting once a year.

1521
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 2: That's not good for the bank account.

1522
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to be typical, just like you know,

1523
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 3: I'm trying to provide for my family, and the only

1524
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: way I can do that is by fighting. And they

1525
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: weren't really fighting. They were really fighting with me. Do

1526
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 3: you know how hard of this to fight on one

1527
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: paycheck per year. I'm just like any normal human being.

1528
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 3: I mean, Luke in this case, you know, he had

1529
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 3: enough losses where it's justified. But you think there's any

1530
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: truth to the UFC icing him out and sort of

1531
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: making him quit.

1532
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: I seriously doubt that. But like to the extent that

1533
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 1: he was not a priority for them, it is probably

1534
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: quite true. And if you're not a priority for them,

1535
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: you're not going to get priority treatment. Rather than being

1536
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: in first class or business class, you're going to be

1537
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: in boarding group nine. You know what I'm saying. He

1538
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: was in boarding group nine.

1539
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 3: Well, he went on to talk about Luke, how many

1540
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: short notice fights he's taken in the past, how many

1541
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 3: Fight of the Night honors he's gotten. Me to your point,

1542
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 3: he feels like he should get like a respect status.

1543
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: Like I, all these fighters decide that they want to

1544
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: learn these lessons the hard way. I don't know what

1545
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: to tell them, Like, you know, the media coverage is clear,

1546
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: Like you know that if you do a favor for

1547
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: the UFC, there is just way too much evidence at

1548
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: this point to suggest that they if they don't pay

1549
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: it back. That's quite common now. There are certainly cases.

1550
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: I've heard Michael Bisbing has told me somewhere he did

1551
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: them a solid and they paid it back. It's not

1552
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: to say that they always don't do that, but you

1553
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: know how many stories have fighters told us over the years.

1554
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: We're like, dude, I got this one short notice and

1555
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: I took and I took an l and I took

1556
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: less pay on the on the belief that that would

1557
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: be repaid to them in some kind of capacity later

1558
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: on down the line, and that it never materialized. A

1559
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, Dude, you gotta respect. Jeremy stevens

1560
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,919
Speaker 1: Man I tweeted about it. That guy never ducked a challenge,

1561
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: not one you couldn't find him, and an ounce of

1562
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: cowardice in his body does not have it. At the

1563
01:11:54,720 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: same time, he made sacrifices in deals where they were

1564
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: just bad deals in the sense of, you know, oh,

1565
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: I made these I did this for you. What about

1566
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: for me? Dude? Was the backscratching that you thought you

1567
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: were going to get was that mandated in the contract? No,

1568
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: then you cannot be surprised you didn't get it. It's

1569
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: it's a hard, harsh truth, but it's the one that

1570
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: we have to all come to grips with.

1571
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: Man, he's he's such a fun fighter. I always love

1572
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 2: watching him.

1573
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: Him and RDA, dude, when are you gonna see guys again?

1574
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I been an interview with Jeremy

1575
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, thats exactly correct.

1576
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, though, these are the really you know, you get

1577
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 3: me ready in your fifty six Chevy. These are the

1578
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:36,879
Speaker 3: guys that red.

1579
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: The Yeah, dude, these are the guys that they don't

1580
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: make them like Jeremy Stevens very often. And I think

1581
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: he took fights. Honestly, He'll he'll admit it, probably to

1582
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: his own professional detriment. But for the fans, you gotta

1583
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: kind of reward that and understand that's a very special

1584
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: fighter that'll do things like that even if he didn't

1585
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: have a belt R on his Waistlthough I like him.

1586
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: I have the most fearful because they were short of

1587
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 3: just shy of like consistent legitimate title contention. But to

1588
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 3: maintain to try to stay near that for the rest

1589
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 3: of their career, they had to make really tough physical

1590
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 3: decisions and take on damage and take big chances and

1591
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: just you know, never give up and freaking grind. I

1592
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: fear long term for those guys because of the damage

1593
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: accrued to be able to to stay there.

1594
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: And you know what do they get? You know what

1595
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I mean they got money that I would love.

1596
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: I would love to know what his total payout was

1597
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: over thirty plus UFC fights, Like how much how much

1598
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: was all that blood worth in terms of treasure?

1599
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: Like when we and that's the thing when we talk

1600
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 3: about the fighter pay debate, we talk about, Hey, shouldn't

1601
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: John Jones get you know, not in ten million as

1602
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 3: opposed to two and a half. Really it shows up

1603
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 3: in situations like Jeremy Stevens. It's like God, he was everything.

1604
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: He was the nail that the UFC prefers to hammer

1605
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: in for years.

1606
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 2: They love guys like that. I want to see those

1607
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: guys and you know, cared for the rest of the way. Look,

1608
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1609
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: Look I'm no union organizer, I'm no answerer of how

1610
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: do you do it?

1611
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: Then?

1612
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 3: I don't know, and it's not up to me. What

1613
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: it is up to us, as we always say, to

1614
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 3: bring it to light quickly. To close on the Spider

1615
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 3: pay topic, Chad Mendis, the thirty six year old talk

1616
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 3: to m a junkie ahead of his BKFC debut he's planning,

1617
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 3: and they asked him whether the grass really was greener

1618
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: on this side financially with BKFC. Mendus said, quote, I'll

1619
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 3: put it this way. I just saw what the UFC

1620
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: heavyweight champion of the world just got paid, and it's

1621
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 3: gonna be more than that. It's pretty crazy. I feel

1622
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 3: blessed for sure. Man, it's pretty profitable. I'm getting paid

1623
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 3: well for the fight and I'm doubling that with sponsors alone.

1624
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1625
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 3: That was such big money maker for us in the

1626
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: UFC before the rebonk deal. Obviously not everybody, but people

1627
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 3: who knew what they were doing and could promote actually

1628
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 3: got out of there and got what they needed. It

1629
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: was great, Luke, you're not surprised by this.

1630
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: Right, No. I mean there's a question of whether BKFC

1631
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: is for spending, but that doesn't mean anything for fighters.

1632
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: There's lots of promotions that have gone out of business.

1633
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: If you're a fighter, get the money, get whatever money

1634
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: you can from them before they go. And so happy

1635
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: for Chadman is right, this is the thing he wants

1636
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: to do. He presumably is going to get a big paycheck.

1637
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: He's got sponsors. This is It's the whole thing I

1638
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: go back to is like, this is the way it's

1639
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Like, you know, we're making it a

1640
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: storyline because it's relevant to what the UFC does or

1641
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: does not do, but like it shouldn't. The only thing

1642
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: that does should be the news item about pay is

1643
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: just how fucking much it is, Like, Wow, do you

1644
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: see that big ass paycheck? That's great, Okay, on to

1645
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: the next fucking story. But we live in a different

1646
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: world right now, and so as a consequence, this ends

1647
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: up being good publicity for your PFLs with tournaments, or

1648
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: your bcfcs with big checks or whoever. They get so

1649
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: much good publicity just by giving the fighters a little

1650
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 1: bit more of a cut. Funny how that works.

1651
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Louke, quick update on Megan Anderson, who's a free

1652
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 3: agent of course, former UFC featherweight title challenger at thirty

1653
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: one years old, posted an Instagram and said hey for

1654
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 3: all the asking, and continued to ask me daily.

1655
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: I have no plans to fight right now.

1656
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I'll never fight again, but at

1657
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: this point in my life, I'm loving everything else I'm doing,

1658
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 3: from gaming and streaming, working as an analyst for ESPN

1659
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: and Invicta, and currently filming my first major feature film.

1660
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't be happier.

1661
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 3: She went out to say, Luke, she's not affiliated with

1662
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 3: any gym and she's really not interested in pursuing a

1663
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 3: new fight contract. She does some good for ESPN for

1664
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: their Australian Coveragejosh, she does. She's like a featured MMA

1665
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: analyst and yeah, man, it's surprising because there would seem

1666
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 3: to be a market for her services right now. And uh,

1667
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: but we're also seeing people go, you know what I

1668
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: got as far as I can go.

1669
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm cool going back to regular life.

1670
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: Dude, there's no shame in that. I mean, fighting mixed

1671
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: martial arts is fucking brutal, and if you're not there's

1672
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: one way to do this, and it is spectacularly. And

1673
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: if you can't do it spectacularly, you know you're gonna

1674
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: have a fucking you're gonna a hard time. She made

1675
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: a good run of it. She made it all the

1676
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: way to the UFC, she made it all the way

1677
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: to the best against the world. Couldn't beat her, you know,

1678
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: And that's okay, dude, that's okay. So you couldn't beat

1679
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: the best in the world. You're not the best in

1680
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 1: the world, So what what else can you do? Turns

1681
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: out she can do a fair bit. I totally commend her.

1682
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: All you can want for people in this life is

1683
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: give it a try, give it your best, and if

1684
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: it works out amazing. If it doesn't, go do something

1685
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: else where you can give it all and give it

1686
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: your best. And if she could take that knowledge and

1687
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: go make money streaming or analyst work, I commend her

1688
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: for it. Save your brain, have a great life. Don't

1689
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: put wear and tear on your body. If you're not.

1690
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: And also Dana White, this is the one thing that

1691
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: I think he is just consistently right about. He's like, dude,

1692
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: and part of it he says, you know, to like

1693
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 1: go be at odds with fighters who want more money.

1694
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: But there is truth to the fact. We're like, man,

1695
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: if you're not all in on this, don't do it.

1696
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: If you're she seemingly is not all in on it,

1697
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: she wants to do something else. It is wise for

1698
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: her to not be in that case. Age. I commend

1699
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: her for the for the sober rational assessment of her

1700
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: of her life, and I wish her nothing but the best.

1701
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: I hope she makes a ton of money and and

1702
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: has great success.

1703
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: Only that attitude was prevalent in the adult film business.

1704
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: Luke, all right, that's another that's another brutal business where

1705
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: you take a pounding.

1706
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, uh Luke closeus Shield is back boxing

1707
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: this weekend. I wanted to at least put it out

1708
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: there that it's happened. It's gonna be an independent pay

1709
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: per view, but she's going to defend her trio now

1710
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: of middleweight world titles.

1711
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: This is not on real Quickly. Don King is not

1712
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: promoting this right, I.

1713
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 2: Didn't see now. He had the weird pay per view

1714
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: the week before with h Yeah, with a really bad

1715
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: decision and a lot of people calling out Canelo. It

1716
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 2: was it was sad, all right, Luke.

1717
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 3: And this one, though unbeaten, Emma Cozen is going to

1718
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 3: be shield as opponent. It's gonna be on the same

1719
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 3: card of Chris you Bank Junior versus Liam Williams and

1720
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: uh Clarius has been training with Floyd Mayweather. She heard

1721
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: her trainer, Gerald Tucker, went to Vegas and did some

1722
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 3: time at the Mayweather gym, and she claims that Floyd

1723
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 3: has taught her to well calm down and the knockouts

1724
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: will calm now.

1725
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: Luke Shields is hits hard, but not.

1726
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 3: Known as a finisher, and some of that can be

1727
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: the the two minute rounds as opposed to three that

1728
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 3: we're still archaically using in the women's game. But she

1729
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 3: could do worse in terms of looking to round out

1730
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 3: her skills. Do you have I don't want to say

1731
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 3: do you have any interest in this? I mean, look,

1732
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: it's it's not high profile. I want to see what happens.

1733
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 3: I want to watch the tape.

1734
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: But in terms of the bounce back and forth boxing

1735
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 2: and MMA.

1736
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: How how interested are you at what Clorisa Shields can

1737
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: do with twenty twenty two?

1738
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: I have to tell you I have great respect for

1739
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: Clarissa Shields. I think, you know, you could look at

1740
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: her record in MMA and it's not, you know, the

1741
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: most amazing one. But I feel like she's trying to

1742
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: do something close to not quite, something close to the impossible.

1743
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've watched all of her boxing matches to

1744
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: this point, and they're fine. She's obviously quite talented. She

1745
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: should win this one walking away. And what she has

1746
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: tried in MMA is so funny, dude. Like she's obviously

1747
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: a natural born fighter, obviously good athlete, smart the whole thing.

1748
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: She works on her craft. I don't mean to say

1749
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: that she just walks in and gets it all.

1750
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: Done, but she's.

1751
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: Fucking tough as nails, and she, dude, she's not afraid

1752
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: of these people at all. When she gets to the MMA,

1753
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: she understands that she's up against different people with better

1754
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: skills and certain capacities, but there's no fear there. She

1755
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: understands what she's up against and she you can tell

1756
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: she believes in her strengths as well. And I like

1757
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: her striking in MM. I like her boxing. It's fast,

1758
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 1: it's crisp. But dude, she's got to make a choice.

1759
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: She's got to make a choice. This whole shit about

1760
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go box a little bit and do MMA

1761
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. You cannot win that way, at least

1762
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: not in the PFL. It's too hard these people from you.

1763
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: As talented as she is. You can get a reasonably

1764
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: athletic purple brown somebody like that, black belt in jiu jitsu,

1765
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: and they're just always going to give her problems. And

1766
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be that way, because she is a better

1767
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: athlete than them. She is a better combat athlete than them.

1768
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: And I think if she really focused on MMA, I

1769
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: honestly wonder what her fortunes could be. But unless she

1770
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: is in boxing, people grow up doing it so by

1771
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: the time they get to their twenties, they might take

1772
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of time off between fights and then

1773
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: have these big, long camps and it doesn't really hurt them. MMA.

1774
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: You cannot do that right now, at least not with

1775
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: the current state of the sport, not with her time

1776
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: in it. She's only very recent. She did not grow

1777
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: up doing it. If she really wants to make money

1778
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: doing that and do something interesting like Brock did, it

1779
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: just has to be more than what it is, which

1780
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: means she needs to move away from boxing. But of

1781
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: course I can't tell her that because she can still

1782
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: make money and that's how her bread is buttered. So

1783
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: she's in a difficult position.

1784
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: If this is about money at the end of the day.

1785
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: I mean, money plays a big part in this, obviously,

1786
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 3: I mean she said it is. But if like the

1787
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: real foundational backbone is like I'm only going back and

1788
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: forth because I got to maximize what I can make

1789
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 3: right now, then that's fine.

1790
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1791
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 3: But I do get your point on sticking in one

1792
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: lane and going all in.

1793
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: It seems to be the best move. It's weird.

1794
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 3: She was at odds with Jake Paul a lot and

1795
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: was very quick to you know, criticize Amanda Serrano for

1796
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 3: even though their friends for you know, criticize the I.

1797
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: Have to say, hold on, can we step backup a step.

1798
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: I think Eddie Hearn, what Eddie Hearn and Jake Paul

1799
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: are doing, and I mean this strictly as promoters X

1800
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: and Wif you didn't know their names, but you just

1801
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: saw what they were doing to promote this Serrano Versus

1802
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: Taylor fight. They're doing an excellent job, dude, I'm sorry

1803
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: they are. You can say whatever the fuck you want

1804
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: about both of them. I was extremely impressed by what they.

1805
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: Had that I was gonna ask you, Luke.

1806
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: She'd been at odds with Jake and and her and

1807
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 3: Amniston of our friends, and they've supported each other. But

1808
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: you know, she did kind of take a shot at

1809
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 3: her of like fighters, I'm not going to go on

1810
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: a YouTuber's undercard. She doesn't have a you know, us

1811
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: TV deal at the moment. Do you think she can

1812
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 3: be helped by Jake Paul in a lot of ways?

1813
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I think the two of them could be you know,

1814
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: that could be a powerful partnership. You know, Jake Paul again,

1815
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: for whatever else you want to say about him, he

1816
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,919
Speaker 1: has done more for Amanda Serrano's career on the promotional

1817
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,799
Speaker 1: side than anyone ever by a considerable margin.

1818
01:22:59,479 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 6: No.

1819
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: Granted, he got in at the right time where he

1820
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: was able to make use of those things. But if

1821
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't for him, who was gonna do this? Like

1822
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't I don't know who the hell that even

1823
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: would have been, so you know, we'll see And again

1824
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, he's just in it for the money. Dude,

1825
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: what promoter Isn't you think Eddie Hearn's in there for

1826
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: the fucking philanthropy, Like he's in there for the money too.

1827
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: So the question is, though, is what they ultimately deliver?

1828
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 1: What did they actually do? Yeah? I think there probably

1829
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: could be. Now again, do I think that Jake Paul

1830
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: probably needs as a promoter. He probably needs Shields more

1831
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: than Shields needs Jake Paul. There's a lot of promoters.

1832
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: I think somebody could go she could go to and

1833
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: have great business with. But again, dude, she's a little

1834
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: bit all over the place, and I understand that she's

1835
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: not in an easy situation to maximize the time she

1836
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: has in combat sports as an athlete. But I do

1837
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: think a little bit more targeted approach and making some

1838
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,560
Speaker 1: clear choices about her future. I think she needs to

1839
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: make him if she really wants to maximize it.

1840
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to Ariel. That interview with that Hearn was

1841
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: very well done and very well researched, and of course

1842
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 2: it makes Eddie look great. Luke he is They're all

1843
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: dirt back used car salesman's at the end and they'll

1844
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: they'll take you know, the their their aim is to

1845
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: take the money out of your pocket.

1846
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 3: Rightfully so, but Eddie, Eddie cleans up. Well, he makes

1847
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 3: you want to believe in it.

1848
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to.

1849
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: I always say this. I always say this. There is

1850
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: really no such thing as an honest promoter. However, there

1851
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: is definitely good dishonest promoters, and there's definitely bad dishonest promoters.

1852
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: You can be a dishonest ship bag and still be

1853
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 1: very good at your job. Always remember that, Luke.

1854
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 3: We close quick hitters with this We're gonna play video

1855
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: with sound. Connor McGregor apparently posted it on social media.

1856
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: I think he took it down, Stence. Interested in seeing

1857
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 3: Luke's reaction. Let's go to the videotape. Here's uh, here's

1858
01:24:39,520 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: the notorious.

1859
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: Look.

1860
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 3: I I mean knowing he had to have one hand

1861
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 3: for the phone in one hand for the bar. I'm

1862
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: gonna assume he wasn't also, you know, master banking during

1863
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 3: that clip, but he was very happy.

1864
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: Luke, do you look at that as relatable or as concernable?

1865
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: I mean, where are you at with this?

1866
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: So that's where all my Delta eight gummies.

1867
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 4: Went dude, listen, let he who was among us cast

1868
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 4: the first stone have I sat shirtless, full of heat pimples,

1869
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 4: eating fucking ice cream and laughing to myself about the

1870
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 4: dumbest shit ever after maybe or maybe not having Delta

1871
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: eight gummies or things like that.

1872
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that is this is shirtless Hasselhoff eating

1873
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: the burger levels or the sandwich whatever you see like this.

1874
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: That was so fucking sad and funny. Uh it wasn't

1875
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: as okay, it wasn't as pathetic as that. That was

1876
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: pathetic because remember when you had the burger and then

1877
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: ship was falling out the back end of it, and

1878
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 1: he was just kind of trying to hold it like soup.

1879
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: You know, my daughter is literally at my door like

1880
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: a fucking zombie and trained to busan. I mean, it's

1881
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: unbelievable what she's doing.

1882
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 3: Just just I mean, if he comes in, Luke, it's

1883
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 3: gonna you know, it's gonna start with wonder and interest

1884
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: and then it's gonna go sad, you know, And you

1885
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 3: know I don't like doing that to her, you know,

1886
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: through the powers of zoom, Luke. Uh So, Luke, it

1887
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 3: does by the way, look like McGregor International Fight Week.

1888
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Even though nothing is really better announced, you just get

1889
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 3: that feeling.

1890
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: Who do you think, Luke?

1891
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: Who do you?

1892
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 2: Who? Do you want? You know? Because I think Nate

1893
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: is gonna happen?

1894
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I dude, I really, I'll be dude. My

1895
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: daughter's literally just knocking. There's like okay, all right, all.

1896
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: Right, well who's in control? Here? Luke?

1897
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 1: Where?

1898
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: Where's where's pepe? Okay? Come on?

1899
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: What do you what are you doing?

1900
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: Come here? This is great? Let's like TV.

1901
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Do I want to see Halloween? Know me and more?

1902
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of the work. What do you

1903
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: want to see? You want to see Halloween?

1904
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Hey? Tuky, it's it's uh, it's uncle Gringo.

1905
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: Here.

1906
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to see my new glasses?

1907
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: Twoky? Look at his glasses? That's us right, What do

1908
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: you think about that?

1909
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Luke, oh yeah, Now she's on

1910
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 2: Team BC. This is great, nice work, very good, very good.

1911
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: Look do you think do you think she believes in

1912
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: her Manson striking?

1913
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Luke me Moore? Do you believe in the striking of

1914
01:27:51,200 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: Jack Hermanson? Or no, say something? For the love of God? Okay, well,

1915
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: apparently we didn't get this on the plane yesterday. Let

1916
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: me assure you it was not the silent treatment. Get

1917
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: in here, she says nothing, but outside she's banging on

1918
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: the door like I'm being evicted by the town sheriff.

1919
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 2: I'd love to get all of our characters together, have

1920
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 2: her and Reggie Jackson hang out for a while, Luke.

1921
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: You know that'd be great.

1922
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: I love you.

1923
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 3: Oh, you can't be mad at her, ever, Luke. You

1924
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 3: know that's the problem with daughters. You can never be

1925
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 3: mad at them.

1926
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I know she's always too cute. I just can't do

1927
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: anything about it, so I just have to sit here

1928
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: and tolerate it.

1929
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, those were our quick hitters of the week.

1930
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 3: So uh, we have a new segment for this special

1931
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: return for you of just getting your reaction to a

1932
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 3: lot of important stuff and combat sports and beyond during

1933
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: your two week felt like two months absence, Luke, we

1934
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 3: call this new segment.

1935
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Luke reacts, all right, let me put her out, all right,

1936
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: mea Moore, you gotta go, you gotta go.

1937
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Cool. It's so new. We don't have any illustration or anything.

1938
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm watching along with you, you know, I

1939
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 3: mean you know, you know.

1940
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 1: That, you know that song from the Nightmare before Christmas?

1941
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: This is hallo Ween, this is Halloween. She loves that

1942
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: song to the point we have to play at fifty

1943
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 1: thousand times a day.

1944
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we live in different realities, Luke, but I respect that,

1945
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 2: you know.

1946
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what are you gonna do?

1947
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: All right?

1948
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: What am I reacting to? Let's do it all right?

1949
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 2: Number one, Luke.

1950
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 3: A lot of people are getting fired up. They want

1951
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 3: to hear your reactions to the stuff you missed. But

1952
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 3: number one, the biggest story in sports. Tom Brady retires

1953
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 3: and then he wait, hold on, I didn't retire, but

1954
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: then once he had his own show with Jim Gray, No,

1955
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 3: I did retire. There are some reports and rumors that

1956
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 3: he may sign a one day deal with the Patriots

1957
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 3: and retire that way. But as of right now, Luke,

1958
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: that steroid using no, just kidding, that guy's retired, Luke.

1959
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, thank fucking god. He's been terrorizing all

1960
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite teams for all these years. I just

1961
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: find it hilarious that people think he's this good because

1962
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: he's been doing extra or reps at practice and eating

1963
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Greek yogurt.

1964
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 2: As opposed to are you putting him in the Barry

1965
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: Bonds category?

1966
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Is really well, no, I don't know if he's in

1967
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: the Berry Bonds category because we just don't know. But

1968
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,799
Speaker 1: his number one trainer, Alex Guerrero, to call him sketchy

1969
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: and by the way, like related to more than one

1970
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: ped scandal would be understating it to an extraordinary degree.

1971
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe in magic. I don't believe in the

1972
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: guys who are just God sent down. I believe in

1973
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: very talented people who work very hard. I also believe

1974
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: in you know, personally speaking, I don't know what happened,

1975
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: This is just my opinion. I also believe in pharmaceuticals

1976
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: having a pretty big role in sports. So we'll see

1977
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 1: he actually, you know, if he had the best career

1978
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen in terms of a football player,

1979
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: he is, certainly, I would agree, the best quarterback that

1980
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: you know ever lived by a wide margin, maybe the

1981
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: best football player. But I am glad that there is

1982
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: turnover in the league because I got sick of.

1983
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 3: Like so Hulk Hogan used to say, Luke that, like

1984
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 3: when they were injecting steroids in their own and late seventies,

1985
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 3: like in wrestling like they.

1986
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Didn't even know how to do it.

1987
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 3: They just they did inject four days in a row,

1988
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 3: Like they just no idea about cycles and stuff. I

1989
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 3: always wanted to count down and look back, Okay, Like

1990
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot of sports victories, whether it be you know,

1991
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 3: team sport or or combat sports where you're like, okay,

1992
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 3: that guy was definitely juicing though, great fight, great win, great,

1993
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: you know, great period in that guy's career, but like,

1994
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 3: come on, man, that guy was dead. I'd love if

1995
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 3: we had like the the toxicology reports and the breakdowns

1996
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 3: of who was the juiciest, Like which sports highlight of

1997
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 3: all time was the juiciest?

1998
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 2: Was it?

1999
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: God? The football, dude, football is still the juiciest. I

2000
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: mean you can get caught for steroids and just miss

2001
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: a uh. I think you can get like a four

2002
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 1: game penalty and then you're basically right back in it.

2003
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: And guys have had like you know, like Brian Cushing

2004
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: had multiple ped failures and still had a pretty great career. Like, honestly,

2005
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how, and I'm being dead serious about this,

2006
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how you play American football for in

2007
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: the NFL for a career. Let's say the average NFL

2008
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: career for those who make it is three years. Let's

2009
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: say you made it seven, eight years, ten years even

2010
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: how do you do that without drugs? I honestly don't know.

2011
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't think a body can handle it. So it's

2012
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: like for all the players who've used, I don't give

2013
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: a ship that they look.

2014
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Everybody's used.

2015
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 3: I'm wondering who used the most kicking some of the

2016
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 3: juicy like Manny Ramirez.

2017
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: Remember he got what he got traded to the Dodgers

2018
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: and he and he hit Like.

2019
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Who was the guy who was the white guy who

2020
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: played for Chicago who would like shit in a box

2021
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: and send it to his samples to labs to get tested.

2022
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: Who was that guy? He was fucking crazy. It wasn't Irlaker,

2023
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,879
Speaker 1: was somebody else. I forget his name, but that dude.

2024
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 3: I'd assume like a guy like Bill Romanowski probably took

2025
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 3: the most.

2026
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: That was him Romanowski Romanowski, Yeah, Romanowski. Cushing was another one. Again,

2027
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: I don't care. Like that doesn't bother me at all.

2028
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean what I got questions about wand men? Will

2029
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Mark is at welterweight, Luke, I mean I do I do?

2030
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: I questions exactly like I don't know how he did

2031
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: it either without that, but we'll see. So yeah, good riddings,

2032
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:06,799
Speaker 1: all right.

2033
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 3: Luke reacts topic number two, Francis and Gano, who defended

2034
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 3: his heavyweight championship and now the toxic level of the

2035
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 3: relationship with the UFC seems to be through the roof,

2036
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 3: despite Dana White's huge denials in that regard, you missed it.

2037
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 3: He had a really weird Q and A with Lori

2038
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 3: Senko that it really didn't answer much, Luke, But just

2039
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 3: your take your reaction to the fact that it's likely

2040
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 3: Francis Agano, with knee surgery, will sit out the rest

2041
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 3: of his deal and be a free agent in December,

2042
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 3: unless you know, UFC comes to the table with a

2043
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 3: Brinks truck and John Jones on the other side, How

2044
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: do you read where we're actually at right now Francis versus.

2045
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Dana How much do you believe that Dana White's absence

2046
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: post wins so when Nick Maner put the belt on him,

2047
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: how much of that do you buy was just what

2048
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: happened versus you know, Dana being like fuck.

2049
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 3: This because he also didn't show up to the press conference,

2050
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: and because he also didn't even reference not showing up

2051
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 3: to the press conference. I think one thousand percent, Luke,

2052
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 3: this is was that. Why did the UFC Twitter account

2053
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 3: not post anything live during the main event?

2054
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: Why is you know? I mean it just it just

2055
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 2: was too convenient, Luke.

2056
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 3: They didn't even have an even if it was fake,

2057
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 3: they didn't even have a BS store. He didn't say,

2058
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 3: oh yeah, man, look there was he said, I had

2059
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 3: a backstage thing.

2060
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like he even faked. Oh yeah, man,

2061
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:27,799
Speaker 2: there were people broke.

2062
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: In, but we took we had to take care of it,

2063
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: like there was just it was like the most the

2064
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: least amount of details possible.

2065
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, here's what I would say. Let's

2066
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: imagine that like he was Matt whenever we think he

2067
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, the reason why he wasn't there is because

2068
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: he was pissed, right. You just have to imagine this

2069
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: like they got the fighter lawsuit forced them or you know,

2070
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 1: compelled them anyway, didn't force them because the judge didn't

2071
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: require it, but of their own volition based on what

2072
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: was happening, the UC decided to add some sunset clauses

2073
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 1: into the contracts in ways that had not been prior

2074
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: to there prior to twenty seventeen. And then you add

2075
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: in the fact that in Ganu was supposed to go

2076
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: against this guy who was to that point unstoppable quite literally, right,

2077
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,759
Speaker 1: he was undefeated prior to this, and you just thought, okay,

2078
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,919
Speaker 1: like they took that risk by you know, changing the contracts,

2079
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 1: but they were going to try and sabotage this guy

2080
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: via that if that's the version of events you're going with.

2081
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 1: And then he upsets the whole thing and retains it,

2082
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and now you could possibly have a case where a

2083
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: UFC champion walks while being champion. It's a level of

2084
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: control that the UFC has given up that they've never

2085
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: had to give up. And it just shows you that

2086
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: if Dana White was so enraged by that that he

2087
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: couldn't put the belt on him, that tells you how

2088
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: ruthless of competitors they are. I don't mean below board,

2089
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean above board. What are all the actual levers

2090
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: that we can pull, the real ones to retain control,

2091
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: that are not illegal, that are totally within our grasp.

2092
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna pull every fucking one of them.

2093
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 3: Along the reputation of the eight matchmaking Hall of Famer

2094
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 3: Joe Silva is that he he was the ultimate motherfucker.

2095
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: Yes, he was duty did Joe Do you ever talk

2096
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: to Joe Silva? No? Yeah, one time he got bitter

2097
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 1: at something I wrote and he called me and that

2098
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 1: dude read me the Riot Act for thirty minutes, just

2099
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Story.

2100
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 2: Did you He filled in for you on one of

2101
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 2: your episodes off and he just casually mentions, oh, yeah,

2102
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: that was the fight card where I was there, but

2103
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: I missed the main event because Joe Silva and Dana

2104
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: pulled me in the back and Joe addressed me about

2105
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 2: something he told.

2106
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: Me about that the day it happened. Actually, he called me.

2107
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 1: We talked about.

2108
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 2: It like damn, Luke, damn.

2109
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: I had I never had that. By the way, there's

2110
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: other details of that story he hasn't told you about

2111
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: what else they told him, which was fucking hilarious. But yeah, dude,

2112
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: they're ruthless. They're ruthless competitors, and you know, uh, that's

2113
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: why they're successful to a degree, right, That's why they

2114
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: are the eight hundred pound gorilla in the industry. But

2115
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think a guy like Francis at thirty

2116
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: five is looking at the old Jeremy Stevens of the world,

2117
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: and certainly we all have respect for him as a competitor,

2118
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 1: but I think doesn't want to end up on that

2119
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 1: situation if as a championship level fighter, if he can

2120
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,839
Speaker 1: avoid it. But if you take the path that Francis

2121
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: has taken, dude, it will not be easy. It will

2122
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 1: be difficult.

2123
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 3: Potentially related to this topic, at eleven thirty am Eastern,

2124
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 3: while we were recording, John Jones tweeted the greatest heavyweight

2125
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 3: of all time versus the greatest light heavyweight?

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Speaker 2: Who wants to see it on game? There's also a

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Speaker 2: report out there. I'm not sure the outlet, but uh

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01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 2: that Jones is willing to fight Stepe Miocic at UFC

2129
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Speaker 2: one ninety six, but wants the heavyweight title he's been pleasing.

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01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Would you say him versus Stepe has to have an

2131
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 2: interim title on it?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I don't believe anything John Jones

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Speaker 1: tweets period matter of factly number one. But let's assume that,

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01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: like there is something there beyond that. Would they what

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Speaker 1: I want to see an interim belt put on it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: For what there's no need. I mean, they might to

2138
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: your point to make.

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01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 2: But they will, dude, they probably will.

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01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: They probably will, But you would agree from a necessity standpoint,

2141
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: it's utterly unnecessary.

2142
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: The last one was the most unnecessary ever.

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01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, you can't fight in three months,

2144
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 3: all right, interim title belt, here we go. And I

2145
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,839
Speaker 3: was like, it was like how they threw Nico Montana

2146
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 3: out the back door, like nobody cares anyway, whatever, we'll

2147
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 3: take the bell from her. Yeah, dude, even they gave

2148
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 3: much more respect to other champions.

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Speaker 2: Lukeho had issues with.

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01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 3: Wait, just so you know, they're all right, Luke, by

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01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 3: the way, if that's the if that's the next step,

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01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: and it's for an interim title, that's a big ass

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01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 3: fight John versus Stepe.

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01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 2: I love that, Luke. And and it's UFC's insurance of Okay,

2155
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 2: go ahead, Francis, go away.

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01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 3: This is now our new champion and he's gonna fight

2157
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 3: Cyril Gotten next and that's still good business, Lucy, all right,

2158
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 3: something to build around for the future. It is, so

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01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 3: they're they're fully ready to say fuck off Francis. And

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01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 3: that's that's where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, this is the big one.

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01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 3: Number three on Luke reacts your Washington football team has

2164
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 3: officially announced their new name. Would you share that new

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01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 3: name with the people who can share for us your

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01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 3: best reenaction of your instant reaction upon steam.

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01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders are the new team. The hashtag is

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Speaker 1: take Command, which makes me want to get shot in

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01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 1: the face with communicable diseases that I could kill me

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01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. I would say that, like, Okay,

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01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: we avoided worst case scenario. Right. Worst case scenario for

2172
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: me was like Armada president something utterly fucking stupid. Commanders sucks.

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01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: It sounds like an XFL team or like you know,

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01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the fuck, but it's not worst case scenario.

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01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: I did like the new uniforms, especially the black one

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01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: that had the like burgundy and gold trim, although that's

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01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: the color patterns have changed a little bit. They added

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Speaker 1: the DC flag to it. And then the thing that

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Speaker 1: heartened me was yesterday the city mayor, Mayor Bowser said

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Speaker 1: that they welcome the new name change and they really

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01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: believe that the team should stay in DC. Because if

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Speaker 1: you haven't paid attention, there was a gubernatorial election in Virginia.

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01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 1: Republican Glenn Youngkin won and has been very heavy about

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Speaker 1: getting the team to go to either Louden er Prince

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Speaker 1: William Counties, which, dude, if they go to Louden County,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain this. It's like I

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01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: will when I say I will never go to a game,

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01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: I will never go to a game. They want to

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01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 1: put the stadium in some ways closer to Ashburn. Mayor

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Speaker 1: Bowser in d C doesn't want to help the team

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Speaker 1: pay for it. I'm guessing Glenn Youngkin probably will help

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Speaker 1: the team pay for it, which is bullshit because that

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01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: means taxpayers have to pay for it, probably five hundred

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Speaker 1: million or more. So what I'll say is we didn't

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Speaker 1: get to worst case scenario. But then that yesterday more allegations,

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Speaker 1: that's what they are from former people who worked at

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Speaker 1: the organization against Dan Snyder related to sexual harassment.

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01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 2: The brutal, the details are brutal.

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Speaker 1: Fucking super brutal. I hate hate Dan Snyder and I

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01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: hate that organization. I just can't quit the team, even

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Speaker 1: though I now root for an XFL team that plays

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Washington Commanders, Yes, yes, I command you

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01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,719
Speaker 1: to change the fucking name to something that doesn't lick balls.

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01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: But here we are.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I mean I guess it's better.

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01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Than Armada Armada.

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Speaker 3: Power Rangers or something, and I mean, yeah, all right,

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01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:37,839
Speaker 3: Luke number four on Luke Reacts.

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Speaker 2: Hey, March fifth, UFC two seventy two.

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Speaker 3: It's Jorge mosmital versus Colby Covington and a pay per

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01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 3: view main event. You ciched, it's get a little corny

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01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 3: already in terms of the back and forth.

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01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: But yes, how are you feeling about this?

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01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: The build up will be unbearable but successful. The fight

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01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: I think will probably end up being one sided for Covington,

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01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 1: but one doesn't exactly know, however, it's the fight that

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01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: had to get made for both of them. It's gonna

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01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: be a fight that I think is gonna do well

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01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: despite no title being on the line. And dude, Colby

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01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: Covington again, we'll see maybe Masvidal can can resurrect things

2221
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: here a little bit. And he has certainly been using

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01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 1: the hashtag, you know, not in short supply the Resurrection

2223
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: and all that. But but you know, it's an interesting fight.

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01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 1: It's a tough fight. I think Kolby's gonna really assert

2225
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: himself in the division again. And you know, these guys

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01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: have built this up to the point where they're gonna

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01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: be able to monetize their falling out as friends. So

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01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I guess BC, here's what we should do when we

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01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: fall out. We should get paid falling out. You know

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01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like these guys, why blow up a

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01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: friendship if you're not gonna get paid for it? At

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01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: least get some cash. So when we blow this whole

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01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: thing up, we got to find an angle that we

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01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: can make money from it.

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Speaker 3: I've already tried to go head to head with your

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01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 3: live chat Luke. Okay, I'm not afraid. I'm really not

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01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 3: a fan, right, I'm not. Look the fact that I'm

2238
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,879
Speaker 3: not afraid of ending our friendship on a daily basis

2239
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: is what makes this show so good and what will

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Speaker 3: end it so.

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Speaker 1: Premature is always on the nuclear trigger, and for those reasons,

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01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 1: we always have mutually assured.

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01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Destruction, Luke, Is true or false?

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01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 3: Is Jorge mos Vidal's pay per view value finished if

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01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 3: he loses in a one sided wrestling match?

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01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 1: Finished? Yes?

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01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 2: Or could you.

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01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 3: Still see him against Connor one day and you know

2249
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 3: we'll we'll care again.

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Speaker 1: Finished is a strong word, but as a headliner, yeah,

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01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: it probably is like could I see him in an

2252
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: interesting fight as a comaine or something like that. Yeah,

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01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean people still won't care. He is still a

2254
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 1: good fighter, Like there will still be moments for him.

2255
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: But if he gets you know, molly wopped by Colby,

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01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: I think as a headliner, that might be some problems

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01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 1: for him.

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01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 3: Do you think he stay? I mean, are you think it?

2259
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 3: Does he have one or two big fights left and

2260
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 3: that's it? Or do you see him as a guy

2261
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 3: if he loses this one that's willing to go back down?

2262
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 2: You know, came up the ladder fight the number.

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01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Dude, he was in the trenches so long. I don't

2264
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: think he wants any part of like I'm gonna fucking

2265
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: get on the treadmill again and you know, fight my

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01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: way from ranked fighters eight to fucking seven. No, I

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01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 1: don't think he does that at all. He's got I mean,

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01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like, dude, Nate Diaz would not have

2269
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: taken the Colby fight, right, It's a horrible matchup for him, right,

2270
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it. Jorge took it. But as a consequence, well,

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01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,799
Speaker 1: I think Jorge is gonna get paid like a motherfucker

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01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: for it, which is great. He's taking a risk where

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01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: he could not only lose, but he could lose in

2274
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: a way that is just sort of like thoroughly you know,

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01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: demoralizing or something. Nate. Nate didn't do that. They did

2276
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: that when it's like it's like when Nate took the

2277
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 1: rda fight that was very different. They didn't have the

2278
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: same you know, animis or whatever. But it was a

2279
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: fight where he was just not gonna lose. He was

2280
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna look bad losing. Jorgees risking a lot. Yeah, dude,

2281
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: you have to admire like Jorge is putting a lot

2282
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: at risk even though he is gonna make a lot

2283
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: of money, which is great. It's not an easy fight

2284
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: and it's a fight that it is only hard to win.

2285
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: It's a fight where if you lose, it could be

2286
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: a loss that it just sort of has a very

2287
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: defining characteristic about it.

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01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 2: Luke reacts.

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Speaker 3: Number five, May seventh is the target date and that's

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01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: single Tomdo Weekend, Kentucky Derby, big time playoffs in NBA

2291
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 3: and NHL usually Yankees, Red Sox, something like that. And

2292
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 3: Canelo's return is what we're expecting in Las Vegas. Who knows,

2293
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 3: maybe Charlo maybe a different fight.

2294
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 2: We'll see. But that night, Luke, UFC two seventy four

2295
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: given us the lightweight championship of Charlos oli Vera versus

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01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Justin Gaichee. The target was Brazil. As of now, they

2297
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,719
Speaker 2: can't do it. We'll see what happens as that gets closer.

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01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 2: No projected date as I mean a location as of

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01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 2: this point, Luke, your reaction to this, you know box

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 2: of sex that they're going to open up.

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01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 1: There, that the top five of that division. It's just

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01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 1: impossible to go wrong, just impossible. And what do you

2303
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: love about Charles Olavera is everything he's achieved, how far

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01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: he's come, but the things he's done to get there

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01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: are the improvements and how slick and smart and dialed

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01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: in and everything else he is, which you could say

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01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 1: for just engage you, just engage you two point zero

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01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: and everything. And he's a fucking hammer, and there's just

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01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: ways you could see just engage you getting submitted quickly,

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01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: maybe even punched around a little bit. But at the

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01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 1: same time, who would be surprised to just engage He

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01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: goes in there and just knocks his fucking block off

2313
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 1: on route to getting it. It's just it's just perfect.

2314
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's a it's a fight between deserving

2315
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: guys in terms of the upper limit of that division.

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01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 1: It's a fight, that is all. I mean, it's impossible

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01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: to imagine it being boring unless someone just gets poked

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01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: in the eye in the first five seconds or something.

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01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 1: It's it's almost perfect.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it so much. I can't wait, Luke.

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01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 3: I'll throw in the bonus one here. You've probably seen

2322
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 3: while you were gone, the boxing purse bid record for

2323
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 3: the upcoming Tyson Fury mandatory WBC title defense against Dillian White,

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01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 3: which would be a big time pay per view. I

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01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 3: forgot the date offhand, but they want to do it

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01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 3: in the UK big stadium.

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01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a big deal.

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01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Forty one million by Frank Warren and company to edge

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01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 3: out Eddie Hearn. But Luke Eddie Hearn in the interview

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01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 3: with Ariel said at the on the MMAI or something

2331
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 3: interesting that they were Eddie Hearn somehow convinced Anthony Joshua

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01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 3: on the financial upside of stepping aside. They had Dillion

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01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 3: White ready to step aside, and it was Tyson Fury

2334
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 3: who said no. In the final seconds to Alexander Usik.

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01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 3: Now Fury has you know, he got out first with

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01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 3: his social media attack and made it look like they

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01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 3: were the stupid ones who missed out on the financial boat. Yeah,

2338
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 3: Dillion White's going to be an easier fight to some

2339
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 3: degree than Alexander Usik, no question. I still think this

2340
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 3: is a great fight. How pumped are you for the

2341
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 3: idea of Fury Dillion White?

2342
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Not very. I don't really give a shit, to be

2343
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 1: candid with you, I respect Dillion White. I think it'll

2344
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 1: be a fun fight for as long as it lasts.

2345
01:47:57,720 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: I do mean that, I really, I'm honest to God

2346
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: do But I don't see him unless Tyson Fury has

2347
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 1: really just kind of phoned it in the the worst way.

2348
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I really don't see how White beats him. To be

2349
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: honest with you, I know it's big for British boxing,

2350
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: and that's great that we've said it before. Do the

2351
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: British boxing fans might be the best fucking combat sports

2352
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: fans on Earth. They're They're unbelievable and God bless them

2353
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 1: for it. It'll be huge. I'm gonna watch. I'm interested

2354
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: to see how Test and Fury looks. But again, White

2355
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 1: can win. This is not like oh Luke says White

2356
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: will never win. I don't mean it that way. What

2357
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: I just mean to say is he can win, but

2358
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: only only only only if Fury is just absolutely shit

2359
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 1: in the bed.

2360
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this a joint question. Did Fury's

2361
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 3: ability in that insane third fight with Wilder to take

2362
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 3: big shots and get back up and just shake it off?

2363
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 2: Was that?

2364
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 3: Was that a sort of final nail on the coffin

2365
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 3: that like he's not gonna like he may get out

2366
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 3: box one day by Usak who knows, but he's not

2367
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 3: gonna get handled by someone.

2368
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 2: No one's gonna come.

2369
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's just hard to see if dude,

2370
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: if Deontay Wilder, after how many rounds, nearly thirty rounds,

2371
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: almost right, something like that, if he couldn't finally close

2372
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 1: it with his power punching, you just have a hard

2373
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 1: time seeing how Dillian White is gonna do it. Granted,

2374
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,839
Speaker 1: White is a much better pure boxer than than Deontay

2375
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 1: Wilder by considerable margin, But what I mean to say is,

2376
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, Wilder had his moments where he laid clean

2377
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: punches on Fury, sometimes knocking him down. But even that

2378
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. It's like, dude, what is what he is?

2379
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 1: He gonna he's gonna outpoint Tyson Fury. Klitico couldn't outpoint

2380
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury, So how's that gonna happen? Addo Vallen couldn't

2381
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 1: outpoint you? Just what is the path where he's gonna

2382
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: get it? Unless Tyson Fury has been diminished, which I

2383
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: don't necessarily expect. So you know, it'll be fun, but

2384
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: it's not like there's just not a lot of mystery there.

2385
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 3: I guess Yeah again, I'm gonna I'm looking forward to it.

2386
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 3: And the whole idea of you know, did Fury say

2387
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 3: no to USA, got a fear or whatever? Well, maybe

2388
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 3: it was strategically. Maybe he thought fighting him right now

2389
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 3: in this difficult of a test isn't gonna be worth

2390
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 3: the same amount of money that he could lose. It

2391
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 3: was in a potential if AJ beats Usik in the rematch,

2392
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 3: and then AJ versus Fury is a just a monster

2393
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 3: fight for all four belts, So that right, maybe it

2394
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 3: was a little more strategic based on this.

2395
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: To me, to me BC, to me, it's like, do

2396
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 1: I think Tyson Fury would beat Anthony Joshua, I do,

2397
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: but I genuinely recognize that that's a much more competitive fight,

2398
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 1: at least it seems anyway. And there's mystery there, there's

2399
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 1: intrigue there, there's something kind of kind of cool. Certainly

2400
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 1: you would agree there's a lot of mystery and intrigue

2401
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 1: and like, wow, wow, how would a fight with Fury

2402
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: and USA go? Like those? To me? You know, I

2403
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 1: might like Fury to win both of them, but that's

2404
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: what those. Those are weird, cool, fun interesting fights the

2405
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 1: white ones. I respect it. It's important it should happen.

2406
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,839
Speaker 1: He might win, but pretty unlikely.

2407
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 2: Luke, I got a bonus. Luke Thomas reacts to end

2408
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 2: the show.

2409
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 3: And that's your reaction to documentary or documentary number six

2410
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 3: by Morning Combat by Jake Roseman are fantastic documentarian by

2411
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 3: the great team of Malca and Showtime there.

2412
01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I know how much you liked it.

2413
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 3: I know how much you gave to the process, where

2414
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 3: in the past you're like, fuck, y'all, what what's your

2415
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 3: reaction to the reaction of doc six?

2416
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: Kind of hitting the.

2417
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 3: Hearts of people who maybe didn't realize you had a soul.

2418
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: It's so weird that people think they know me when

2419
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 1: they've never met me, it's like, oh, well we watch

2420
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: your videos. Well yeah, but that's not just a very

2421
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 1: small portion of my life, Like I'm a you know,

2422
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: there's a whole life outside of that. You don't you

2423
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 1: think you know someone? You got to meet people, you

2424
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: got to interact with them, you got to see them

2425
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. And so I certainly appreciate that. Maybe

2426
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 1: to a degree, Jake has humanized me, and you know,

2427
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: showed your by the way BC got killed for his nails.

2428
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: I texted BC. I was like, BC, my toenails are

2429
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: worse than yours. I just lived with unbearable shame, and

2430
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 1: so I don't show them. But I want to say, Jen.

2431
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean, are you a real man? If you're all

2432
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 2: like cleaned up down there?

2433
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: Come on, you know, you know it's for we grew up.

2434
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: We're in an era where, you know, with super machizma,

2435
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: where guys would never do something like that, and now

2436
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: they do. So I can't say for sure what's cool.

2437
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 1: We don't We don't hold.

2438
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 3: It against the English for having bad teeth, right Luke,

2439
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 3: maybe they can, you know, let us let us Armenian

2440
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 3: Lithuanians off the hook.

2441
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 2: With the dude, We've always.

2442
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Walked fungus encrusted toenails.

2443
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 2: We've walked a tough road to get here, and those

2444
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 2: are our scars.

2445
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, look, yes, that is certainly true. What I would say, though,

2446
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, was I thought it was a fucking masterpiece.

2447
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It's my either favorite or second

2448
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 1: favorite of all of them. And I showed it to

2449
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: my wife and she thought it was touching. She loved it.

2450
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: You know, it was great, dude. They did a great job.

2451
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: I will say Malka was a little self serving with

2452
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: it because here's the thing. We were like, oh, let's

2453
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: do a documentary about going to Vegas and winning the award,

2454
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 1: and Michael was like, yeah, yeh yeah yeah, but also

2455
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: about the studio. Let's make this about the studio. Like

2456
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's about the studio. It's about

2457
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: their war, but okay, they shoehorned in the studio angle

2458
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: at the same time. That also worked because they did

2459
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: such a good job with it. Dude. You know who

2460
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: was surprisingly like the am I hero of the whole thing, Ashley.

2461
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: I thought Ashley was fucking hilarious in this dock where

2462
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: you're like, it's a shithole, but it's our shithole. She's like,

2463
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: it's my office. Man.

2464
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Fuck.

2465
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 3: Mark the camera guy had some big moments there. Gaff

2466
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 3: continued to come out of the dark and be a

2467
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 3: playable character in this universe.

2468
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 1: I love I love Gaffes. Fucking uh, They're like Gaff

2469
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: waiting on the studio. He's like, uh, hopefully there's no Dix.

2470
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 1: I really just don't want to see any more Dix

2471
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 1: in this play fucking place.

2472
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Jay Aaron even making a quick moment.

2473
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 3: So Luke, it's interesting because I thought, I think there's

2474
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 3: some of our docks and look.

2475
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 2: This is this is meta here.

2476
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 3: But come on, you know, if I can't I can't

2477
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 3: reach around, you know, come on, sometimes you know BC

2478
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 3: has been the MVP of a dock. Sometimes Jake's editing

2479
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 3: has been the MVP of a doc. Luke, I think

2480
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 3: you were the MVP of DOC six. I mean you,

2481
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 3: you showed up and you and you delivered.

2482
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: Dude, I did better this one. You know, shocker when

2483
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: you try things look better than that when you don't try.

2484
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: But I would say that, honestly, wouldn't like what made

2485
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: it was Roseman. He understands us, like he understands what

2486
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 1: makes you tick, he understands what makes me tick.

2487
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 3: But he's also not afraid to make you look embarrassingly

2488
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 3: bad just for the sake of art.

2489
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Though, But that's the whole thing. Like when he went

2490
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: to the cab driver and he was like, oh, you're

2491
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: from northern Virginia near DC, and the cab drivers like yeah,

2492
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: he goes, you've heard Luke Thomas. He's like no, and

2493
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: he like, why include that? Because it's important to include that.

2494
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,799
Speaker 1: It's important that like that's dude, we don't, we cannot

2495
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: you got You gotta live with those funny l's in life.

2496
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: You have to live with that kind of relationship with people,

2497
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 1: and like they should be able to say things like

2498
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: that to us. And I like that. I love that

2499
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: they can to always take us down a pig. It's

2500
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: it keeps us humble, it keeps us motivated, and it's

2501
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: fucking hilarious. I laughed when I saw that. I thought

2502
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: it was legitimately funny.

2503
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 2: So you now have a hand drop on all six docks.

2504
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 2: Because you'd always say, oh, I think Doc want's the best.

2505
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, tuck one's good. But It's not like no,

2506
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 2: no one's out of here claiming that's the best. That

2507
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 2: just means you haven't watched him. Dude, are you prepared

2508
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 2: to give an official six episodes in? This is like,

2509
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: you know, this is like putting the Phantom Menace, you

2510
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 2: know at number six, And I mean, like, are you

2511
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 2: ready to give a ranking of these six documentaries?

2512
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: I am so. I'm gonna be ready. I'm gonna give

2513
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: you the list.

2514
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna start with the best of the worst.

2515
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Start with the top to bottom, good, good to bad. Okay, Uh,

2516
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to agree. I can only tell

2517
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 1: you what they meant to me. Right, I'm gonna go

2518
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: number six as my number one. I just thought it

2519
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 1: was so fucking good. I showed it to my wife again.

2520
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: I sent it to some of my my relatives in

2521
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 1: Columbia or my in laws anyway, and even they thought

2522
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 1: it was just amazing. So I'm gonna go number six.

2523
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: I really thought that was good. Second for me is

2524
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna be number one. I really thought that number one

2525
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: was different and unique. I know you disagree, that's fine,

2526
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: but for me, that's where it stands. My number three

2527
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be number five. Number five was a tough

2528
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 1: moment for us, but it showed us taking you know,

2529
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: get look, dude, life is gonna slap you around at

2530
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 1: times and and give you a little bit of a

2531
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 1: wake up call when you need it. I thought Doc

2532
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: five brought some of that energy. And again you sweating

2533
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: like a whore in church, Me sweating like a whore

2534
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: in church. You know, it was it was, it was there.

2535
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go number See. This is where I

2536
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 1: this is where it's hard for me. I really struggle

2537
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: with this one. I'm gonna go number four. Number four

2538
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: is going to be my my next one down. The

2539
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 1: Miami Show I thought was really good. Not my favorite doc,

2540
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: but it definitely had its moments. It captured the authenticity

2541
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 1: of what we were trying to do at the time,

2542
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 1: and that was cool. After that played played a big role.

2543
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: I'll go number two. After that, I did like Number

2544
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: two a little bit. There are some it's a lot

2545
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 1: of bullshit, to be honest with you, and number three.

2546
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Try to say, Luke, number.

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 1: Three should just be deleted off the it's the stupidest

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Speaker 1: fucking video one day.

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01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 3: Number every every great band that has slid in and

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01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: out of genres you know, you may be a rock band,

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01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 3: but you you had the country album or you had that,

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01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 3: you know whatever. You two's got a couple of weird turns,

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01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, the the number three doc is gonna be

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01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 3: that weird one at first where you're like, man, what

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01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 3: the hell is this? But then in the long run it.

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01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 2: Will age like wine if people go, well, that's actually

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01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 2: the brilliant one because they had nothing, they had no material.

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01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 2: They said, all we got is a shopping cart in BC.

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01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 2: And you know, we we we held it together. Look,

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 2: my rankings couldn't be kind of more different than yours.

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01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 2: The best doc we've ever done.

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01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 3: And I am happy by the way that a lot

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01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 3: of fans say that this one's the best, and it's

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01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 3: so feel good, and it's it is different, this.

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Speaker 1: One, This one is the most This one is definitely

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01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: the most feel good of all of them. Right, and

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Speaker 1: we've had a few.

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01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 3: Jake's done a good job at you know, providing that

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01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 3: happy ending. Thank you, mister Kraft. All right, So, Luke,

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01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,919
Speaker 3: the best one we've ever done is number five. In Cleveland,

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01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 3: there was the raw and the real, the highs and lows.

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01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 3: We showed the downside. Luke okay, all right, we had

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01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 3: the Indians keg party. We had a lot of fun

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01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 3: stuff going on in there, but Ariel trying to take

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01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 3: over that was that was some real life going on

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01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 3: in there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 3: The second best dock we ever did is number two, Luke,

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01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 3: And it's probably the doc that you.

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01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 2: You tried or showed up in the least. So BC

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01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 2: had a Jordan flu game, okay, and you know, and

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01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 2: talked about art and it was you know, I mean, look,

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01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: it's a it's a tour de forced. No, okay, it's uh.

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01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 2: The third best one is six, the most recent one.

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible, and it shows the evolution of

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01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 2: Jake's art as well and his confidence in putting it

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01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 2: out there. You know. Then then you go Miami, Luke.

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01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 2: Then you go the first one. First one's pretty good.

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01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 3: It establishes you and I hating each other, but we're together,

2590
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 3: firstus for the paycheck.

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01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 2: And then Luke, you know, number three it is the worst,

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01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 2: but it's also a little a little unique, a little spicy,

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01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 2: a little interesting.

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01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: No, it sucked, all right, we.

2595
01:58:58,160 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Just jerked off for ten minutes.

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01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 3: But thank you to everybody for I mean, look, you know,

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01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 3: for all I want to say about the docs.

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01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 2: They don't tend to move much product. You know that

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01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 2: must that means they're really good to tell.

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01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 1: You the truth, you know what that means, or that

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01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: they are they're really bad. No one gives a shit anymore.

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01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 2: You know. The masses can't handle because they don't know

2603
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 2: what they're wanting. They're like, is this real? Is this like?

2604
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 2: Are these people really this weird?

2605
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't get it, you know, all right,

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01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Luke. That's our show today on

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01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 3: this Friday. Fans enjoy, enjoy, please the fights this weekend

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01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 3: and get prepared. If you can follow that, if you

2609
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 3: can like the show and follow what we're doing here

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01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 3: on YouTube and and if you're listening audio only, please

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01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 3: give us a review that you feel we earn there

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01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 3: on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts and all that. But Saturday

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01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 3: night we also dabble in the post fight instant reaction domination.

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas following her Manson Strickland myself. I believe, Luke

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Speaker 3: following Thermon Barios. We could pull this off.

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Speaker 1: If you want to do it, let's do it. I

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02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: we should hit the ground running. I'm back. I'm refreshed.

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02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Let's let's give the fans what they want.

2619
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, you're like, you know, September in the dorms.

2620
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm back, I'm ready to bang.

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02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's do this all right? Yeah, okay, thank you folks.

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Speaker 2: Bellow to our Championship Boxing Ray Donovan movie. Luke, I

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02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 2: haven't gone that far yet.

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02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm still in season one of Billions and it's great, Luke,

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02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 3: but it's taken me a while.

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02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I've I need to catch up as well. I've been.

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02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can pound sand also, Luke. We got a

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Speaker 3: we got a merch house and we're hearing that. Uh,

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Speaker 3: we've got ah.

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Speaker 2: What is Sally saying to us, Luke, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not reading it.

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02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 2: Sally, do you have a something to throw to here? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Please share? Let's calendar of February fight calendar and as

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Speaker 2: you can see there, Luke, February fifth, UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 2: We're bringing it post UFC two seventy one. The following week,

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Speaker 2: it's August on your Whittaker two. Check out my Whittaker interview.

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Speaker 2: It's out there on YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat

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Speaker 2: on the eighteenth Showbox, Luke Orlando Ortez versus All Bright

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Speaker 2: with BC on the microphone. Don't miss it, baby, and

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Speaker 2: it closes the twenty six Ah, Chris Colbert, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be chatting with him today.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be in there, Luke. He's coming in the

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Speaker 3: one hundred thirty pound division against Gutierras. So fun stuff

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Speaker 3: going on in showtime Land Belatore right around the corner

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Speaker 3: as well, so follow it along with us.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's what we do here.

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Speaker 2: mar J Dankel Nuggett there. Very nice guy, Luke, one

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Speaker 2: of our better employees. Would you say yes, I'm amazing?

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Speaker 2: Did he deserve that doctor Nasher joke that I'm probably not,

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02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 2: probably not, but uh, you know you can only have

2662
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 2: regrets in life, Luke. You know that that means I lived,

2663
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 2: I swung, that means I went.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have plenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh Luke. Great to have you back though, great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. Great to be back. Excited join us tomorrow night.

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02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: I will be right back here for some post fight reaction.

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Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, folks, we love you. Take care of this. Okay,

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02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 3: it's tough the winter, but spring's coming. We're behind you

2671
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:40,120
Speaker 3: all the way. Like Luke Thomas will often say, may

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Speaker 3: all your ex lovers stay satisfied, be be excellent to

2673
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Speaker 3: each other, and uh and party on, dudes.

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Speaker 2: We out