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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We Got Lots. Just say we got lost.

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Speaker 3: Just save.

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Speaker 2: What's bagger here?

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Speaker 4: And we hope you stay because we got lost.

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Speaker 2: Just say yeah, we got lost.

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Speaker 3: Just say.

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Speaker 2: Here's Bobby that It's happen, everybody. Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 5: It's fourth of July week.

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Speaker 2: Which is what are you guys doing? I don't know yet.

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Speaker 6: No, we were talking about maybe going up to Montana?

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Speaker 2: Is that a maybe?

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Speaker 5: That's a maybe?

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Speaker 2: That's a big like, that's quite a declaration for it

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Speaker 2: to be a maybe we're going to Montana.

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Speaker 6: Might be going, but more than likely we're staying here.

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Speaker 6: More than likely.

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Speaker 2: What's in Montana?

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Speaker 5: Just we've got a place up there in Darby, Montana.

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Speaker 2: And that's cool. Yeah, it's cool. What's it look like

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Speaker 2: when you walk out the front door of your place.

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Speaker 6: You look down over this valley and it's the Majestic

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Speaker 6: and it's God's country there.

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Speaker 5: Man, we're right by the bitter Root. National Force is

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Speaker 5: right behind us.

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Speaker 6: But the bitter Root River runs down fly fishing, you know,

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Speaker 6: lake life.

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Speaker 2: It's it's wonderful. Wish i'd have been a pro athlete. Huh.

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Speaker 4: You guys ever rent it out?

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Speaker 2: Just a guy?

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting because the only time we've rented out it's

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Speaker 6: when Yellowstone filmed up there, and so I never thought

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Speaker 6: anybody's gonna rent this house a million years.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: It's an hour half hour and a half south drive

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Speaker 6: there's Hamilton is the biggest city close to us. But

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden we found out Yellowstone started to

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Speaker 6: film up there, and so they asked if they could

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Speaker 6: rent the house. I was like, yes, that's awesome. That's

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Speaker 6: great because we're not there a lot at all.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Costner slept in this bed because there's a sign, never.

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Speaker 5: Washed the sheets.

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Speaker 2: Yes. We just basically make sure the dogs don't freak out.

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Speaker 2: They go crazy fire they think aliens are invading.

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Speaker 5: Oh, because there's schizophrenic.

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Speaker 2: And I've done it all. I've given them all the

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Speaker 2: meta us in. We've put the thundershirts, we've done thunderthong everything.

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Speaker 2: I put one on myself.

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Speaker 5: What is it a thundersong?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I wear that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get naughty, like we don't do anything becaus

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Speaker 2: the dogs freak out so much. But hope everybody has

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Speaker 2: a good Fourth July. We got a couple things we're

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Speaker 2: gonna do here. We're gonna get into conspiracy theories and sports,

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Speaker 2: which I love conspiracy theories. We're also gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: the NFC East and over the last month or so,

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Speaker 2: we've been talking about the greatest of all time per

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Speaker 2: each NFL team, and so we did it week by week,

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Speaker 2: but we put it all together, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: all bringing forty six minutes of goat talk as well.

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Speaker 2: So all that's here, let's start now with the conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: I love sports conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 5: I know you do.

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Speaker 2: I love just conspiracy theories. There's a new one, by

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Speaker 2: the way. So forever it was birds aren't real, and

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. Then all of a sudden at the Tech show,

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Speaker 2: now buy yourself that are basically drones, and you're going

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Speaker 2: well off. The public's now offered them. That means government's

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Speaker 2: had over twenty years, so there was something to that theory.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there is.

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Speaker 2: The new one is trees aren't real.

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Speaker 6: Well, a bunch of them that are going down on

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Speaker 2: Because then that's my new like fun one is that

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Speaker 2: Oh what are they doing? Why are they're watching this?

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Speaker 6: Pretty rich here in Tennessee with a lot of diverse

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Speaker 6: Just maybe it's a boxwood too.

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Speaker 2: And people use I think you were crazy if you

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Speaker 2: So but I have sports conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've done some of these a bit, but

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Speaker 2: at number ten on the list from watch Mojo is

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Speaker 2: Sonny Listen and the phantom punch. Now to do a

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Speaker 2: heavily promoted heavyweight bout between Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali

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Speaker 2: Because I did not know this at all. The match

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Speaker 2: was extremely disappointing because Ali knocked Listen out within minutes. People.

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Speaker 6: Listen was the world the heavyweight champion at the time

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Speaker 2: Many people started saying that can't be real, and a

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Speaker 2: Listen and those who did claim the punch that saw

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Speaker 2: They said they didn't see the punch in person like

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Speaker 6: Right well back then, also, he could smoke inside, so

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Speaker 2: Like very much. Oh my gosh, no, that didn't look hard.

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Speaker 2: And they're asbestos T shirts like everything.

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Speaker 6: Number nine is so the conspiracy theories that Sonny threw

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Speaker 2: I think I think Tyler Hero said it best. Anything

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Speaker 2: believe in history. It's over fifty years old. I believe

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Speaker 2: is truth. And there are so many mob.

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Speaker 6: Mafia like ties and conspiracy theories. Yes, what they were

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Speaker 2: Like criminal operations, especially in boxing, which was so crooked.

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Speaker 2: You think it's crooked now everything, all of it. So

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Speaker 2: this one specifically, I don't know, but probably because it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but then you go and you watch Alie and

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Speaker 2: It's like Mike Tyson. I don't think anybody had to

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Speaker 2: killed everybody. Yeah, yes, until Buster Douglas, until Buster dougg

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Speaker 2: has got him. I know Kurt Shelling faked his bloody

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Speaker 2: be a bold thing to do, wouldn't it, Like Gate?

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Speaker 5: What was that game? Six six?

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Speaker 2: Any pitch lights out? Too? He did, And so we

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Speaker 2: got two Boston guys sort of you're you're a half

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he did it. So alcs. We remember

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Speaker 2: the bloody sock. Boston was down a game to the Yankees,

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Speaker 2: Chilling throws his brains out. He was pitching on an

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Speaker 2: injured and bloody ankle. However, due to the popularity of

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Speaker 2: the story, theories soon began to arise that Chilling was

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Speaker 2: putting ketchup or paint on his sock in between innings,

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Speaker 2: so it looks more dramatic. No way, no way, I

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Speaker 2: Catch up and mustard, No, just catch up, relish what else?

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Speaker 2: Get the dogs out? Jimmy hoff is buried at Giant Stadium.

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Speaker 2: That that could be true. Definitely, could definitely be true.

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Speaker 2: They never found his body, never found it. It could

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Speaker 2: The story of Jimmy hoffa a union leader who disappeared

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Speaker 2: nicely with the construction of the Giant Stadium, which broke

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Speaker 2: The idea was on MythBusters and they say there's no

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Speaker 2: but they were just like, there's no evidence.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go with that could be true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: And then their prairie is fifty other sites that could

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Speaker 2: Doc Ellis pitched a no hitter on acid. I think

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Speaker 2: he admitted to this, Yes, he did admit to this, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he did. He was an a right that.

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Speaker 6: Had to be one weird trippy outing, like just full

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Speaker 6: a lot of weird faces. Probably not that I've ever

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Speaker 2: and he said he didn't he didn't remember. He had

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Speaker 2: Many witnesses and associates claim he wasn't high. Ellis's teammates

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Speaker 2: didn't notice anything off. Meanwhile, in his seventy six biography,

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Speaker 2: he claims he'd been drinking vodka not freaking out on LSD.

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Speaker 2: But now he's the guy who probably pitched a no

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Speaker 2: hitter on LSD. Regardless of whether or not it's true,

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Speaker 2: I just think now, I think if you look it up,

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Speaker 2: he's admitted it's true.

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Speaker 6: That would be great for us, because we both said

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Speaker 6: I think he admitted it.

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, would you say vodka? Sodas not a

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Speaker 2: big deal. A crazy one was Delante West and him

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Speaker 2: hooking up with Lebron's mom. Do you guys remember that one? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Reputable websites published a story. It soon became widespread internet gossip.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people create these, and.

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Speaker 4: Now was the social media where it's like you believed it.

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Speaker 2: What's the about Docallis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he admitted to it. In nineteen eighty four, he

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Speaker 2: I wonder why that's still listed as a conspiracy theory

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Speaker 2: that could definitely happen eighty four. The next one, Back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's now people were like, no, it's the Cubs, No,

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Speaker 2: Back to the Future Part two aired.

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Speaker 6: Wow, we gotta get that book. Remember it wasn't it

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Speaker 6: Biff stole the book the Almanac. Yeah, Theminacs Simon Knight.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Costner was discovered with Calropken Junior's wife. I've heard

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Speaker 5: Well, I've heard this one as well.

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Speaker 2: In September nineteen ninety five, the Baltimore Orioles Cawerpken Junior

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not going to admit to that.

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Speaker 2: All the lights went out.

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Speaker 6: Hey, bro, can we just get over I know you're

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Speaker 6: going through some tough stuff, but we're just gonna shot

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Speaker 5: Can you come back tomorrow though?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's keep this streak Alive bro nineteen eighty

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Speaker 2: we heard the envelopes.

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Speaker 6: We thought, I mean really for sure, sophisticated way and amazings.

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Speaker 2: Great job, good for you. Yeah, I believe that one.

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Speaker 2: I think that one was true. Michael Jordan's gambling band

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Speaker 5: I believe that one. I believe that one. He talked

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Speaker 2: Way like he's like, you know why, we'll go to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go grind it out in the minor leagues.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be amazing. Birmingham Barons, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Number one's Wilt Chamberlain had sex with twenty thousand women.

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Speaker 2: He wrote that in his book, Oh did he really?

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Speaker 5: So that's not even a conspiracy series, that's a.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that? A boy? Yeah. He said that

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Speaker 2: conservatively cut the number to two. Multiply biolity was it

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Speaker 2: He's probably all of our Grandpa in some way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe there's a lot of height.

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Speaker 2: Our twenty three and meter all gets back up to

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Speaker 2: Wilt Chamberlain somehow. It's like it tells you what country

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Speaker 2: you're from. It's like, you're from Ireland, you're from England,

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Speaker 2: You're from Wilt. One person that never Wilted was Wilt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go. Hey, let's talk about the NFC East

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Speaker 6: I mean there is something to that for sure, because

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Speaker 6: in tunes in and I think that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: Because they're called America's team. And are they America's team?

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Speaker 6: Well, they haven't won a Super Bowl since the nineties,

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Speaker 6: so but it's I mean promotion.

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Speaker 2: What would America's team be? Right now? Let's say that

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Speaker 6: They vilify winners in the NFL. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's the only reason that people don't

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Speaker 6: They get the calls, right, But this is a franchise

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Speaker 5: How many Super.

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Speaker 5: Three in a row.

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Speaker 6: They've won three out of the last four Super I

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Speaker 5: Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: Sounds about right?

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Speaker 5: Sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: We're guestimating. It's fourth of July week.

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Speaker 5: We're tired, Sorry, guys, we're tired. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, this is a dynasty. So I'd say Chiefs are

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Speaker 2: Team right now. If that tag did not go, I

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Speaker 2: would I'd say, are you gonna say the Patriots? Kevin?

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Speaker 2: Of course, I would talk their helmets, their name, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: pat Okay, what about the Eagles? That's America's official bird?

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Speaker 4: You say, I'm patriotic? I'm a patriotic American. No, I'm

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Speaker 4: an Eagle List.

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Speaker 2: But the thing about it Eagle is it's literally America's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but a patriot is as a patriot.

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Speaker 6: For twenty years, there's no doubt the Patriots and their

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Speaker 2: No, I would and I like, I rooted for the

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they did have a few, didn't they That kept.

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Speaker 2: Them from being the team that could be universally liked,

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Speaker 2: flay Gate, which was stupid. It was stupid, So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say that, yes, but because the flake Gate happened

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Speaker 4: They're just stupid for getting caught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was doing it. But even like even like McDaniels,

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels, he won and then they got caught and

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you're saying when he went to Denver. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and they got hit with it the same thing, yes.

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Speaker 2: And then he stopped. So spy gate was real the

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Speaker 2: flight gate was not. But both were real because the

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Speaker 2: flay Gate only was bad because spy gate happened. That's

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Speaker 2: exactly right. If spygate doesn't happen to flake gate's not

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Speaker 6: Well. Also, the simple fact that they switched all the

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Speaker 6: they switched it.

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Speaker 2: Out to like forty two to seven exactly.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: So that's why the Patriots could never have been America's team.

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Speaker 2: And I rooted for the Patriots, Okay, but in every

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Speaker 2: because you yourself. That's like giving yourself your own nickname.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are named the Patriots. It's pretty patriots.

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Speaker 2: They named themselves that. You can't give yourself your own

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Speaker 4: Then, like remember the dynasty started in the one, the

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Speaker 6: Percent they overcame all odds. Backup quarterback comes in.

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Speaker 2: So if the Louisville Liberty Bells are now third team,

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Speaker 2: one through four, because I think you'd have to go

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Speaker 6: Right, Absolutely, I go Eagles, Eagles at one because they're

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Speaker 6: just returning so much of that same team that they

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Speaker 6: of the day, it's hard not to go Eagles number one,

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Speaker 6: number two. I do like the Commanders, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: They did win a playoff game, yeah, and they went out.

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Speaker 6: They won two playoff games, they went to the NFC

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Speaker 2: But just winning a playoff game, I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: If you just win a playoff game, it's like you're

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Speaker 2: now in a different league. So yes, they did. He

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Speaker 6: Quarterback who is just continue is going to continue to elevate.

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Speaker 6: They went out and got Deebo Samuel from the forty

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Speaker 6: They've got a good offensive line, running backs, and defensive

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Speaker 2: Do you think both of those teams again are playoff teams?

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Speaker 2: I do, okay, And do you think the Cowboys are

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Speaker 6: I'm putting the Cowboys at three. Now I could make

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Speaker 6: You've got your quarterback healthy again with Dak So there's

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Speaker 6: with Brian Schottenheimer. So you don't know how that is

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Speaker 6: all gonna play itself out. But at the same time,

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna put them at three, and then the

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Speaker 2: The Giants are going to struggle. I feel like the

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Speaker 6: They've got a lot Russell Wilson, MS, James, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 6: who's going to play? And then at what point is

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Speaker 6: But at some point when that organization is struggling in

437
00:20:08,176 --> 00:20:10,816
Speaker 6: mid season, they're going to make that switch, and that's

438
00:20:10,856 --> 00:20:13,416
Speaker 6: always a major transition for the locker room for the

439
00:20:13,455 --> 00:20:16,856
Speaker 6: team itself. But hopefully it works out because I do

440
00:20:16,896 --> 00:20:19,016
Speaker 6: think that they're talented on the defensive side of the ball,

441
00:20:19,016 --> 00:20:20,776
Speaker 6: and they've got some talent on the offensive side.

442
00:20:20,576 --> 00:20:20,816
Speaker 2: Of the ball.

443
00:20:20,856 --> 00:20:23,975
Speaker 6: It's just whether or not that Jackson Darter, whoever's playing quarterback,

444
00:20:24,495 --> 00:20:26,616
Speaker 6: is going to perform up to a level or a

445
00:20:26,616 --> 00:20:28,255
Speaker 6: standard that's going to get them wins.

446
00:20:28,455 --> 00:20:30,936
Speaker 2: I think that quarterback situation is weird because you have

447
00:20:31,016 --> 00:20:34,856
Speaker 2: two veteran quarterbacks, So Russell Wilson will probably start right

448
00:20:35,376 --> 00:20:39,776
Speaker 2: Jackson Darts should probably be the number two regardless because

449
00:20:39,776 --> 00:20:42,656
Speaker 2: he should get second team snaps. He is a rookie,

450
00:20:42,696 --> 00:20:45,896
Speaker 2: they're invested heavily in him. And then you have Jamis Winston,

451
00:20:45,936 --> 00:20:49,735
Speaker 2: who they could probably get some assets for, especially to

452
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:51,896
Speaker 2: a team again like this Saints, who could use a

453
00:20:51,975 --> 00:20:52,896
Speaker 2: quarterback right now.

454
00:20:53,136 --> 00:20:56,776
Speaker 6: Right they're in a position where if a team has

455
00:20:56,816 --> 00:20:59,376
Speaker 6: an injury early in the season, which you always see

456
00:20:59,416 --> 00:21:02,176
Speaker 6: to the quarterback position, that they have trade value in

457
00:21:02,176 --> 00:21:04,936
Speaker 6: that room right now, whether it's Russell, whether it's Jamis.

458
00:21:05,056 --> 00:21:07,535
Speaker 6: They're obviously not trading Jackson Dart, but they have one

459
00:21:07,576 --> 00:21:09,536
Speaker 6: of those two guys that they can use as trade bait,

460
00:21:09,616 --> 00:21:11,176
Speaker 6: maybe pick up some value.

461
00:21:11,136 --> 00:21:12,775
Speaker 5: Going into the next year's draft.

462
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Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see how that goes because

463
00:21:15,576 --> 00:21:18,575
Speaker 6: those veteran quarterbacks, there's not a ton of them with

464
00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:22,136
Speaker 6: that type of experience that are just out there on

465
00:21:22,176 --> 00:21:24,056
Speaker 6: the street in the middle of the season, so they'll

466
00:21:24,136 --> 00:21:28,096
Speaker 6: have an opportunity if it presents itself, to maybe trade

467
00:21:28,096 --> 00:21:28,735
Speaker 6: one of those guys.

468
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Speaker 2: But what are the Cowboys. What are they done to

469
00:21:31,176 --> 00:21:34,535
Speaker 2: get better? They except add Pickens as a receiver, and

470
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Speaker 2: I would say with Schotdheimer as the coach, they really

471
00:21:37,056 --> 00:21:40,496
Speaker 2: haven't made substantial changes to the coaching staff. It wasn't

472
00:21:40,536 --> 00:21:42,735
Speaker 2: like they had to do a you know, bring in

473
00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:45,656
Speaker 2: the zamboni and flatten it all out because Schottenheimer, they

474
00:21:45,696 --> 00:21:46,816
Speaker 2: just elevated.

475
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Speaker 6: Right, they elevated. They have familiarity with the staff. I'm

476
00:21:48,936 --> 00:21:51,255
Speaker 6: sure a lot of those guys that they retained. I

477
00:21:51,296 --> 00:21:53,815
Speaker 6: think that they had a pretty decent draft, so to speak.

478
00:21:53,896 --> 00:21:56,416
Speaker 6: So but you never know with rookie classes. It usually

479
00:21:56,416 --> 00:21:59,136
Speaker 6: takes one or two years to really understand what the

480
00:21:59,176 --> 00:22:01,856
Speaker 6: product's going to be on the field in how that

481
00:22:01,975 --> 00:22:05,896
Speaker 6: rookie class comes together as a whole. But I think

482
00:22:06,016 --> 00:22:08,176
Speaker 6: is a really big pick up for them because they

483
00:22:08,215 --> 00:22:11,096
Speaker 6: had ced Lamb. But when you have just one guy

484
00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:13,216
Speaker 6: out there and you don't have to worry about anybody else,

485
00:22:13,296 --> 00:22:16,416
Speaker 6: they can double him, shift the defense to him, top

486
00:22:16,495 --> 00:22:19,416
Speaker 6: him with a safety and a corner. So having a

487
00:22:19,416 --> 00:22:22,416
Speaker 6: guy like Pickens, who's another one one a type wide

488
00:22:22,416 --> 00:22:26,856
Speaker 6: receiver that's gonna make some very difficult decisions for the

489
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Speaker 6: defense side of the ball.

490
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Speaker 2: I feel like the Cowboys need a running back. They

491
00:22:29,576 --> 00:22:34,416
Speaker 2: have five third string running backs. Yep. And but that

492
00:22:34,576 --> 00:22:37,296
Speaker 2: was last year too. I mean when you picked Zeke

493
00:22:37,376 --> 00:22:40,936
Speaker 2: back up, Like, what was Zeke doing? Delivering Amazon? They're like, Zeke,

494
00:22:41,016 --> 00:22:45,455
Speaker 2: come on, buddy, delivering Amazon to the facility. They're like, Zeke,

495
00:22:45,576 --> 00:22:50,455
Speaker 2: just stay, just stay. So yeah, I think it's I'm

496
00:22:50,455 --> 00:22:53,896
Speaker 2: with you. I think it's the Cowboys at three in

497
00:22:53,975 --> 00:22:55,616
Speaker 2: the Giants at four. I don't see how the Giants

498
00:22:55,616 --> 00:22:57,856
Speaker 2: win a bunch of games. If the Giants don't win games,

499
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Speaker 2: do you think they draft another quarterback? I Dart was

500
00:23:00,776 --> 00:23:06,256
Speaker 2: the second round quarterback, right, moved moved back for that's right,

501
00:23:06,376 --> 00:23:10,296
Speaker 2: that's right. I mean, if they suck, do they draft

502
00:23:10,296 --> 00:23:12,775
Speaker 2: another quarterback at a class when the quarterbacks are better

503
00:23:13,536 --> 00:23:15,136
Speaker 2: next year than they were this last year?

504
00:23:15,616 --> 00:23:17,255
Speaker 5: There definitely would have to entertain it.

505
00:23:17,336 --> 00:23:19,896
Speaker 6: But I don't know if this same regime with Brian

506
00:23:19,936 --> 00:23:22,336
Speaker 6: day Ball and the GM are going to be making

507
00:23:22,336 --> 00:23:24,656
Speaker 6: that decision. If they just go out and completely lay

508
00:23:24,656 --> 00:23:26,335
Speaker 6: an egg this year, or if they're going to give

509
00:23:26,416 --> 00:23:29,015
Speaker 6: them another year with Jackson Dart. And it probably depends

510
00:23:29,056 --> 00:23:31,896
Speaker 6: on how Jackson Dart plays when he gets the opportunity

511
00:23:31,936 --> 00:23:34,015
Speaker 6: to go in and play, because if he shows promise

512
00:23:34,056 --> 00:23:36,416
Speaker 6: and they start winning games, then there's hope. If they

513
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:38,416
Speaker 6: go out there and the team kind of starts to

514
00:23:38,416 --> 00:23:40,936
Speaker 6: give up, because you never know what's going to happen. Look,

515
00:23:41,016 --> 00:23:43,056
Speaker 6: if they go out and they're a five hundred team

516
00:23:43,056 --> 00:23:46,136
Speaker 6: this year, I think that that's a successful season. I

517
00:23:46,176 --> 00:23:49,455
Speaker 6: don't know if they can go much further beyond that.

518
00:23:49,656 --> 00:23:52,816
Speaker 6: But if they go out and they're five and whatever,

519
00:23:53,016 --> 00:23:55,735
Speaker 6: then I don't know if that they're going to keep

520
00:23:55,936 --> 00:23:57,336
Speaker 6: the current coaching staff in.

521
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Speaker 2: Play goats from each team through history. We don't have

522
00:24:15,816 --> 00:24:17,255
Speaker 2: to do every team today, but we could do some

523
00:24:17,336 --> 00:24:20,416
Speaker 2: of them, and I thought we'd just go alphabetical and.

524
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Speaker 5: Do Hopefully you've written all these down teams.

525
00:24:23,256 --> 00:24:25,056
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I have them alphabetical order. Now. I've

526
00:24:25,096 --> 00:24:27,136
Speaker 2: spent no time thinking about any of them except for

527
00:24:27,136 --> 00:24:29,616
Speaker 2: the one we talked about, which was first up alphabetically,

528
00:24:29,656 --> 00:24:31,975
Speaker 2: which was Arizona, which we talked about it before we

529
00:24:32,016 --> 00:24:35,856
Speaker 2: came on. That's it. So I haven't done the research,

530
00:24:36,176 --> 00:24:37,775
Speaker 2: but I think it's the best place to come from.

531
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Speaker 6: Yes, it's the best place. And I haven't either because.

532
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Speaker 2: I literally, well, when I texted you were going to

533
00:24:43,416 --> 00:24:45,136
Speaker 2: do this, I just thought of it. I like it

534
00:24:45,176 --> 00:24:48,255
Speaker 2: so about the same time. Yeah, not the same time. Okay,

535
00:24:48,336 --> 00:24:52,656
Speaker 2: let's go goat of the Arizona Cardinals. We'll take turns

536
00:24:52,656 --> 00:24:53,255
Speaker 2: of going first.

537
00:24:54,296 --> 00:24:58,975
Speaker 6: Okay, there's two that come to mind, both offensive players.

538
00:24:58,975 --> 00:25:02,736
Speaker 2: But I have to go with Larry Fitzgerald. Me too.

539
00:25:03,215 --> 00:25:06,296
Speaker 2: I mean, he's I was really he. I was drawn

540
00:25:06,336 --> 00:25:07,416
Speaker 2: to Kurt Warner at first.

541
00:25:07,616 --> 00:25:09,936
Speaker 6: That was too, but he was only he was there

542
00:25:10,016 --> 00:25:13,056
Speaker 6: for a significant period of time, but not I mean

543
00:25:13,056 --> 00:25:14,536
Speaker 6: what Larry play eighteen years?

544
00:25:14,656 --> 00:25:17,936
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think quarterback is often where our brains

545
00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:20,256
Speaker 2: go because that's the face of the franchise for sure.

546
00:25:20,735 --> 00:25:24,736
Speaker 2: So we agree, we agree. I mean, it's it's hard

547
00:25:24,735 --> 00:25:29,775
Speaker 2: to argue that one Falcons Atlanta Falcons. We're standing in

548
00:25:29,776 --> 00:25:35,576
Speaker 2: the a's how long was Dion there for? I don't

549
00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:37,975
Speaker 2: have the answer to your question because I didn't research this, Kevin.

550
00:25:38,016 --> 00:25:40,455
Speaker 2: I bet Kevin could tell us, But now you're gonna lean.

551
00:25:42,016 --> 00:25:44,536
Speaker 2: I don't think I would. Michael Vick.

552
00:25:46,495 --> 00:25:50,536
Speaker 6: I mean, Michael Vick is legendary obviously, Okay, I know.

553
00:25:50,495 --> 00:25:53,775
Speaker 2: Who I have. You know who you have? Yeah? I have?

554
00:25:53,495 --> 00:25:54,255
Speaker 5: Do you have?

555
00:25:54,296 --> 00:25:54,455
Speaker 6: You have?

556
00:25:54,536 --> 00:25:56,495
Speaker 2: Years locked in? Because I don't want to change in

557
00:25:56,536 --> 00:25:58,775
Speaker 2: each other's minds, We can agree we were wrong, but

558
00:25:58,776 --> 00:26:00,976
Speaker 2: I don't want to change in each other's minds, all right.

559
00:26:01,136 --> 00:26:02,656
Speaker 2: For me, the first thing that comes to mind is

560
00:26:02,656 --> 00:26:06,616
Speaker 2: Michael Vick I Matt Ryan, Oh good call. I think

561
00:26:06,696 --> 00:26:13,496
Speaker 2: both though, are arguably correct because Matt Ryan won more.

562
00:26:14,256 --> 00:26:16,616
Speaker 2: Michael Vick brought more eyeballs to the team, right.

563
00:26:16,656 --> 00:26:18,975
Speaker 6: He's such a polarizing figure and when he came in,

564
00:26:19,096 --> 00:26:21,576
Speaker 6: he played the position unlike any other quarterback to ever

565
00:26:21,616 --> 00:26:27,255
Speaker 6: play the position, and just his skill set and elite

566
00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:31,136
Speaker 6: athleticism was just remarkable to watch.

567
00:26:31,376 --> 00:26:33,495
Speaker 2: And I don't know why I'm fighting for yours that

568
00:26:33,656 --> 00:26:35,856
Speaker 2: you just fight for mine? Yeah, fight for yours?

569
00:26:35,936 --> 00:26:36,136
Speaker 5: Yeah?

570
00:26:36,215 --> 00:26:38,455
Speaker 2: No, I just think I mean, other than losing this

571
00:26:38,776 --> 00:26:42,576
Speaker 2: twenty three Oh my gosh, I can't believe he wanted to. Yeah,

572
00:26:43,256 --> 00:26:46,456
Speaker 2: he's absolute, but I definitely if someone argued Mike vic

573
00:26:47,336 --> 00:26:49,496
Speaker 2: I can't say you're wrong because he brought more eyeballs.

574
00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:53,016
Speaker 2: I mean, he was the guy that TV commercials wanted, right.

575
00:26:53,056 --> 00:26:54,215
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan really wasn't.

576
00:26:55,096 --> 00:26:56,696
Speaker 5: He was a different type of personality.

577
00:26:56,735 --> 00:26:58,975
Speaker 6: But you talk about a professional in every sense of

578
00:26:59,016 --> 00:27:01,336
Speaker 6: the world word and a guy that could come out

579
00:27:01,856 --> 00:27:05,495
Speaker 6: and perform on Sundays. Matt Ryan was as consistent of

580
00:27:05,495 --> 00:27:07,136
Speaker 6: a quarterback in the NFL as anybody.

581
00:27:07,536 --> 00:27:11,775
Speaker 2: Let's go to be's Baltimore the Ravens. Oh, Baltimore Ravens.

582
00:27:12,136 --> 00:27:14,216
Speaker 2: I'm gonna write my down that you're going first. I'm

583
00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:16,696
Speaker 2: torn between two. I got one we problem.

584
00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:20,255
Speaker 6: I mean, it's there's two guys I think of, and

585
00:27:20,296 --> 00:27:21,856
Speaker 6: I think that you're going to lean one way.

586
00:27:22,696 --> 00:27:26,336
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Ed Reid. Ed Reid is my second.

587
00:27:26,576 --> 00:27:31,495
Speaker 6: But I meant too, Yeah, ray Lewis ed Reid. That defense?

588
00:27:32,096 --> 00:27:34,736
Speaker 6: Was it the two thousand and one Ravens or two

589
00:27:34,776 --> 00:27:36,856
Speaker 6: thousand Ravens with the best defense ever?

590
00:27:37,016 --> 00:27:38,215
Speaker 2: You mean the Trent Delph Ravens.

591
00:27:38,256 --> 00:27:42,015
Speaker 6: Trent delf for Ravens. Hey, they were an offensive juggernaut,

592
00:27:42,016 --> 00:27:42,376
Speaker 6: but that.

593
00:27:42,336 --> 00:27:45,576
Speaker 2: Defense was real. Did you play against Ray?

594
00:27:45,776 --> 00:27:49,736
Speaker 6: I sure did, and Ed and they were as advertised.

595
00:27:49,816 --> 00:27:53,055
Speaker 2: I remember you telling us about Ed and how advanced

596
00:27:53,056 --> 00:27:56,616
Speaker 2: he was. But what was ray Lewis like not to

597
00:27:56,696 --> 00:27:59,416
Speaker 2: play against but to look across? Because that's what I

598
00:27:59,455 --> 00:28:01,816
Speaker 2: think of, like how he must have been so intimidating.

599
00:28:01,816 --> 00:28:03,496
Speaker 2: But again that's just television talking to me.

600
00:28:03,536 --> 00:28:05,896
Speaker 6: No, But it's the intensity which he played game and

601
00:28:05,936 --> 00:28:08,015
Speaker 6: every time you looked across the line of scrimmage. He

602
00:28:07,856 --> 00:28:10,536
Speaker 6: was the guy that was making calls, calling everything out,

603
00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:14,736
Speaker 6: getting the defense set. But his eyes when you looked

604
00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:17,295
Speaker 6: at him, he'd like stare through your soul, and it

605
00:28:17,336 --> 00:28:18,896
Speaker 6: was one of those that you knew that you'd have

606
00:28:18,936 --> 00:28:19,656
Speaker 6: to bring your egg game.

607
00:28:19,735 --> 00:28:21,496
Speaker 5: And then he also was a savvy guy.

608
00:28:21,536 --> 00:28:23,455
Speaker 6: He's known for coming up and making the big hits,

609
00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:25,616
Speaker 6: but when he dropped into pass protection, he tried to bait.

610
00:28:25,735 --> 00:28:27,056
Speaker 6: He tried to act like he's going well in a

611
00:28:27,056 --> 00:28:29,696
Speaker 6: way but fall back in. He was just an all

612
00:28:29,735 --> 00:28:33,376
Speaker 6: around outstanding player. But in addition to that, it was

613
00:28:33,376 --> 00:28:36,336
Speaker 6: his leadership qualities that you saw every single game and

614
00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:39,296
Speaker 6: the intensity of which he played the game made him special.

615
00:28:39,736 --> 00:28:43,776
Speaker 2: Do you think, and this has meant completely calmplimentary, that

616
00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:47,016
Speaker 2: his cartoon like attributes, meaning when he comes out and

617
00:28:47,056 --> 00:28:49,416
Speaker 2: he does the stomp coming out of the tunnel and

618
00:28:49,496 --> 00:28:52,576
Speaker 2: ray lewis behind the line, do you think that overshadowed

619
00:28:52,616 --> 00:28:54,576
Speaker 2: how smart of a player he was because he was

620
00:28:54,616 --> 00:28:56,136
Speaker 2: just seen as the big, brute guy who does the

621
00:28:56,176 --> 00:28:58,736
Speaker 2: big cartoon like movements.

622
00:28:59,016 --> 00:28:59,776
Speaker 5: I don't believe so.

623
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Speaker 6: If anybody ever played against him, or you can speak

624
00:29:02,976 --> 00:29:05,536
Speaker 6: to probably any of his teammates, they'd say that that

625
00:29:05,576 --> 00:29:08,296
Speaker 6: guy brought it each and every day, and while while

626
00:29:08,296 --> 00:29:10,376
Speaker 6: there's the antics of when he'd come out, but that

627
00:29:10,456 --> 00:29:12,216
Speaker 6: kind of set the tone for the entire team because

628
00:29:12,256 --> 00:29:15,016
Speaker 6: when you're on defense, your mentality is to go up

629
00:29:15,376 --> 00:29:18,536
Speaker 6: and deliver violence, and so you've got to come out

630
00:29:18,576 --> 00:29:21,256
Speaker 6: with a certain energy, and he was the aura of

631
00:29:21,256 --> 00:29:23,656
Speaker 6: that defense right the way that he played the game,

632
00:29:24,176 --> 00:29:27,616
Speaker 6: and it started as soon as they did introductions. You knew, okay,

633
00:29:27,616 --> 00:29:30,496
Speaker 6: we're playing Baltimore today, because I always remember getting ready

634
00:29:30,496 --> 00:29:31,056
Speaker 6: for Baltimore and.

635
00:29:31,056 --> 00:29:32,576
Speaker 5: You're like, gosh, they don't have a lot of holes.

636
00:29:32,816 --> 00:29:35,896
Speaker 6: They're very sophisticated in how they're in complex and the

637
00:29:35,896 --> 00:29:38,376
Speaker 6: different looks that they give you and the different schemes

638
00:29:38,416 --> 00:29:39,416
Speaker 6: and the personnel units.

639
00:29:39,456 --> 00:29:41,976
Speaker 2: So you always had to be ready for that.

640
00:29:42,336 --> 00:29:44,136
Speaker 6: But in addition to that, they had the players to

641
00:29:44,176 --> 00:29:46,376
Speaker 6: back it up, which made it even more intimidating.

642
00:29:47,136 --> 00:29:51,336
Speaker 2: So he was a real cerebral player. For sure.

643
00:29:51,776 --> 00:29:54,376
Speaker 6: He'd see things, call things out, probably not to the

644
00:29:54,376 --> 00:29:57,016
Speaker 6: extent of like a Luke Keegley, who we've talked about before,

645
00:29:57,456 --> 00:29:59,376
Speaker 6: but at the same time, he was a guy that

646
00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:03,536
Speaker 6: played so much football that he'd recognize formation and be

647
00:30:03,616 --> 00:30:05,616
Speaker 6: able to watch the film and understand what we're trying

648
00:30:05,616 --> 00:30:06,416
Speaker 6: to get accomplished.

649
00:30:07,056 --> 00:30:11,376
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Jim Kelly. See, I would have went

650
00:30:11,456 --> 00:30:15,456
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith, not hey, he's right up there. I think

651
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,176
Speaker 2: we go quarterback and Kelly Dillyum before Super Bowls with

652
00:30:19,216 --> 00:30:23,376
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith also was one of the most dominant defensive

653
00:30:23,376 --> 00:30:26,976
Speaker 2: players possibly ever. But I would have gone Bruce Smith.

654
00:30:27,016 --> 00:30:29,136
Speaker 2: You could convince me it was Jim Kelly though. Yeah.

655
00:30:29,176 --> 00:30:32,096
Speaker 6: And Thurman Thomas too on that team, I mean, was

656
00:30:32,096 --> 00:30:34,616
Speaker 6: a legendary running back in an absolute stud as well.

657
00:30:34,976 --> 00:30:37,656
Speaker 6: But I'd have to go with Jim Kelly because even

658
00:30:37,656 --> 00:30:39,376
Speaker 6: when you go back there and when I was playing,

659
00:30:40,256 --> 00:30:41,936
Speaker 6: one of the things that make me think Jim Kelly

660
00:30:42,016 --> 00:30:44,016
Speaker 6: is so after the game. He was like an ambassador.

661
00:30:44,016 --> 00:30:45,896
Speaker 6: He'd come to the game, sign autographs, do all that.

662
00:30:46,456 --> 00:30:48,456
Speaker 6: And so we'd come into the tunnel and he'd have

663
00:30:48,496 --> 00:30:50,616
Speaker 6: a bunch of paps, blue ribbons, a bunch of beers

664
00:30:50,616 --> 00:30:52,816
Speaker 6: waiting for the quarterbacks, and we go out and he'd

665
00:30:52,816 --> 00:30:55,416
Speaker 6: spend twenty five thirty minutes telling old.

666
00:30:55,256 --> 00:30:56,976
Speaker 2: Stories with the quarterbacks of the other team.

667
00:30:57,016 --> 00:30:58,896
Speaker 6: From the other team like bray Well Let's be honest,

668
00:30:58,896 --> 00:31:00,096
Speaker 6: he didn't want to hang out with me if you

669
00:31:00,136 --> 00:31:02,656
Speaker 6: want to hang out with Brady. But at the end

670
00:31:02,656 --> 00:31:04,776
Speaker 6: of the day, he was a guy that was just

671
00:31:05,096 --> 00:31:08,296
Speaker 6: so cool and authentic and real. And even when I

672
00:31:08,336 --> 00:31:11,176
Speaker 6: got to Buffalo, one of the cool parts was he

673
00:31:11,256 --> 00:31:13,536
Speaker 6: brought all the quarterbacks over to his place because he

674
00:31:13,616 --> 00:31:16,376
Speaker 6: still lived there, and we went out and shot skeet

675
00:31:16,496 --> 00:31:18,896
Speaker 6: and he had a big barbecue and brought a bunch

676
00:31:18,936 --> 00:31:21,536
Speaker 6: of people over. And he's just one of those really

677
00:31:22,216 --> 00:31:23,936
Speaker 6: incredible ambassadors of the game.

678
00:31:23,856 --> 00:31:29,416
Speaker 2: That's cool to hear. Let's do three more. The not

679
00:31:29,576 --> 00:31:31,656
Speaker 2: alive for long and compared to the other teams and

680
00:31:31,736 --> 00:31:37,776
Speaker 2: possibly my favorite new team, the Carolina Panthers. Gosh, well

681
00:31:39,576 --> 00:31:40,536
Speaker 2: I have mine, I know.

682
00:31:40,736 --> 00:31:43,095
Speaker 5: Are you going quarterback? Yeah, Mark Burnell.

683
00:31:44,016 --> 00:31:45,976
Speaker 2: Mark Burnell was more of a as a Jaguar.

684
00:31:46,336 --> 00:31:48,296
Speaker 5: Well, who are we talking about? Carolina Panthers?

685
00:31:48,416 --> 00:31:51,855
Speaker 2: Sorry, I take that all back. They did exist at

686
00:31:51,856 --> 00:31:55,976
Speaker 2: the same time. Yeah, oh, Dell home. Oh I'm going

687
00:31:56,016 --> 00:31:58,496
Speaker 2: Cam Newton? Oh yeah, what am I talking about? Cam

688
00:31:58,536 --> 00:31:59,896
Speaker 2: Newton's for sure that I figure that.

689
00:32:00,256 --> 00:32:03,336
Speaker 6: I'm sorry he went to a Super Bowl though, Cam

690
00:32:03,376 --> 00:32:08,016
Speaker 6: Newton did hid Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely going Cam Newton.

691
00:32:08,016 --> 00:32:09,176
Speaker 2: Okay, I flipped on that one.

692
00:32:09,336 --> 00:32:12,496
Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry, I was all over the map there. Sorry everybody.

693
00:32:12,616 --> 00:32:21,216
Speaker 2: Two more the Bears Bears ooh, but Gus interesting. That's

694
00:32:21,256 --> 00:32:23,536
Speaker 2: not who I would go with, but I could be convinced.

695
00:32:23,616 --> 00:32:25,776
Speaker 2: It's just weird to compare offensive defense. And it's also

696
00:32:25,776 --> 00:32:28,616
Speaker 2: weird to compare eras because it's like how the NBA

697
00:32:28,696 --> 00:32:30,615
Speaker 2: always fights over who is better. Mostly you just have

698
00:32:30,656 --> 00:32:33,056
Speaker 2: to compare eras with people in them versus the people

699
00:32:33,056 --> 00:32:34,976
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, Walter Payton, That's who I have.

700
00:32:35,176 --> 00:32:39,456
Speaker 6: Yeah, Walter Payton's all time great for sure, absolutely incredible,

701
00:32:40,456 --> 00:32:43,016
Speaker 6: and also watching those videos of him running the hills

702
00:32:43,296 --> 00:32:45,376
Speaker 6: in the off season doing all that stuff that he did,

703
00:32:45,976 --> 00:32:46,736
Speaker 6: He's was.

704
00:32:46,776 --> 00:32:49,216
Speaker 2: A special, special player. So yeah, Walter Payton. I was

705
00:32:49,256 --> 00:32:52,176
Speaker 2: listening to Jeff Pearlman, who wrote a book on Walter Payton,

706
00:32:52,216 --> 00:32:54,856
Speaker 2: talk about Walter Payton and how he would take the

707
00:32:54,896 --> 00:32:58,776
Speaker 2: soles out of his shoes and play with soulless shoes

708
00:32:58,816 --> 00:33:00,536
Speaker 2: because he felt like he could feel the ground better

709
00:33:01,136 --> 00:33:03,416
Speaker 2: and that it was a little painful obviously, but he

710
00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:05,256
Speaker 2: felt like he could feel the ground so much better.

711
00:33:05,456 --> 00:33:09,056
Speaker 2: Helped him cut, move, run, jump that he played soulless.

712
00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:14,136
Speaker 5: And then run through people or round or around them.

713
00:33:15,136 --> 00:33:24,176
Speaker 2: Finally, Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals. There's about five here that

714
00:33:24,256 --> 00:33:26,416
Speaker 2: I feel like we could go with because I feel like,

715
00:33:26,776 --> 00:33:30,376
Speaker 2: in my opinion, my humble opinion, Cincinnati doesn't have it

716
00:33:32,056 --> 00:33:35,696
Speaker 2: a a guy true, So I think we should talk

717
00:33:35,736 --> 00:33:38,056
Speaker 2: this one out as our final one. Okay, well, I

718
00:33:38,096 --> 00:33:42,456
Speaker 2: think you have to put Boomer Boomer. I think you

719
00:33:42,496 --> 00:33:44,256
Speaker 2: have to put Burrow in there. Boomer went to two

720
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:47,936
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, so Boomer over Burrow. Burrow is way more dynamic.

721
00:33:47,976 --> 00:33:50,416
Speaker 2: But again, we're comparing eras. That's not fair. It's not fair.

722
00:33:51,136 --> 00:33:55,216
Speaker 2: I think you have to Jamar Chase has to be

723
00:33:55,296 --> 00:33:58,856
Speaker 2: in it because he is has been for multiple years

724
00:33:58,936 --> 00:34:02,336
Speaker 2: the number one or one a best receiver in the NFL.

725
00:34:02,216 --> 00:34:05,696
Speaker 5: Oh for sure. And then Shadow Chosenko was a stuck point.

726
00:34:05,736 --> 00:34:08,256
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about o Jo Cinco Cho Sinko

727
00:34:08,936 --> 00:34:10,415
Speaker 2: didn't win though didn't win.

728
00:34:10,536 --> 00:34:12,536
Speaker 6: I mean Carson Palmer, my buddy, was there for a

729
00:34:12,536 --> 00:34:13,456
Speaker 6: long time and he.

730
00:34:13,336 --> 00:34:14,296
Speaker 2: Was an absolute stud.

731
00:34:14,416 --> 00:34:16,815
Speaker 6: That's a good one, and they were going the first

732
00:34:16,816 --> 00:34:18,896
Speaker 6: game of the playoffs that year. He just resigned a

733
00:34:18,896 --> 00:34:21,216
Speaker 6: new deal and he got rolled up on towards ACL

734
00:34:21,256 --> 00:34:23,336
Speaker 6: in the first game of the playoffs. But those teams

735
00:34:23,336 --> 00:34:26,216
Speaker 6: were good teams with Chatto, chasinco t j hus Manzada

736
00:34:26,776 --> 00:34:30,496
Speaker 6: and and Carson obviously pulling the trigger. They had some good,

737
00:34:30,656 --> 00:34:31,496
Speaker 6: good teams back then.

738
00:34:31,656 --> 00:34:33,976
Speaker 2: The only other person I could think of to put

739
00:34:34,056 --> 00:34:37,216
Speaker 2: in the running and I can't pick him because it's

740
00:34:37,216 --> 00:34:41,696
Speaker 2: a position that you're unable to pick because it isn't

741
00:34:41,736 --> 00:34:43,976
Speaker 2: focused on enough. But it's only because of the accolades

742
00:34:44,016 --> 00:34:45,256
Speaker 2: he's gotten as Anthony Muniz.

743
00:34:45,776 --> 00:34:47,896
Speaker 5: Anthony Munais was an absolute usc product.

744
00:34:47,936 --> 00:34:49,855
Speaker 2: You know that means nothing to me. Nothing.

745
00:34:50,016 --> 00:34:52,856
Speaker 6: Yeah, soy Corey Dillon was really good too. The running

746
00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:56,256
Speaker 6: back too brief, I know now he was there for

747
00:34:56,296 --> 00:34:56,576
Speaker 6: a while.

748
00:34:56,656 --> 00:34:59,416
Speaker 2: Wasn't too brief at like being I don't think he

749
00:34:59,536 --> 00:35:02,216
Speaker 2: was a top five back for more than well he's

750
00:35:02,256 --> 00:35:05,936
Speaker 2: a monster, But I'm just saying, amongst those other names, okay,

751
00:35:06,096 --> 00:35:08,656
Speaker 2: I felt like you were fighting for somebody at a

752
00:35:08,696 --> 00:35:13,216
Speaker 2: personal relationship with them. He played with me years years.

753
00:35:13,256 --> 00:35:14,216
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe not long enough.

754
00:35:15,096 --> 00:35:19,456
Speaker 2: And two historians who watched the offensive line monyo, it's

755
00:35:19,456 --> 00:35:22,136
Speaker 2: probably the guy, but yeah, I would probably I think

756
00:35:22,216 --> 00:35:25,416
Speaker 2: I would go with Boomer yes, I'd go with Boomer.

757
00:35:25,496 --> 00:35:27,936
Speaker 2: I lost too super Bowls, but got to two super Bowls.

758
00:35:27,696 --> 00:35:30,096
Speaker 5: And was playing the forty nine ers in their heyday,

759
00:35:30,576 --> 00:35:31,896
Speaker 5: the Browns.

760
00:35:31,776 --> 00:35:36,576
Speaker 2: And we've alphabet Jim Brown, okay, or Tim Couch Nope,

761
00:35:36,696 --> 00:35:41,256
Speaker 2: Jim Brown. So you feel a little bad for some

762
00:35:41,296 --> 00:35:43,656
Speaker 2: of the Browns quarterbacks. And you've probably seen the jersey

763
00:35:44,056 --> 00:35:48,416
Speaker 2: of every Browns quarterback. All those quarterbacks don't suck. Those

764
00:35:48,456 --> 00:35:51,656
Speaker 2: are people with unfortunate circumstances. They got drafted to an

765
00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:56,216
Speaker 2: unfortunate place, which has been the whole that it's called

766
00:35:56,216 --> 00:35:57,016
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns.

767
00:35:59,376 --> 00:36:02,016
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a difficult situation. We we we've talked about

768
00:36:02,016 --> 00:36:05,056
Speaker 6: it before on this podcast. You know, organizational fit, culture,

769
00:36:05,056 --> 00:36:10,376
Speaker 6: every thing else. And those guys all were drafted to

770
00:36:10,496 --> 00:36:13,896
Speaker 6: that team at a really what top ten picks.

771
00:36:14,456 --> 00:36:15,376
Speaker 2: Couch was number one.

772
00:36:15,296 --> 00:36:18,696
Speaker 5: Overall overall, Yeah, number one overall. Brady Quinn was up

773
00:36:18,736 --> 00:36:19,776
Speaker 5: there in the top ten.

774
00:36:19,936 --> 00:36:23,976
Speaker 6: I mean you could go down the list and unfortunately,

775
00:36:25,256 --> 00:36:28,296
Speaker 6: you know, circumstances matter, and I feel bad for those

776
00:36:28,336 --> 00:36:32,056
Speaker 6: guys because all of a sudden it starts going downhill

777
00:36:32,136 --> 00:36:35,016
Speaker 6: and you're not having success as an organization and you

778
00:36:35,136 --> 00:36:37,976
Speaker 6: get labeled as a bust or something.

779
00:36:38,056 --> 00:36:39,216
Speaker 5: Now, Johnny Manziel was.

780
00:36:39,176 --> 00:36:41,696
Speaker 6: Probably the only guy that I'd say probably deservedly so

781
00:36:42,176 --> 00:36:44,456
Speaker 6: after watching some of the comments he made and how

782
00:36:44,536 --> 00:36:45,456
Speaker 6: he approached the game.

783
00:36:46,456 --> 00:36:48,056
Speaker 2: But like Baker, was able to bounce back.

784
00:36:48,296 --> 00:36:49,736
Speaker 5: I see. That's the thing about Baker.

785
00:36:50,536 --> 00:36:54,056
Speaker 6: Baker went in there as a rookie, played really well

786
00:36:54,096 --> 00:36:56,216
Speaker 6: and then took that team to the playoff, got a

787
00:36:56,296 --> 00:36:59,296
Speaker 6: playoff win, and then was hurt and they traded for

788
00:36:59,376 --> 00:37:02,296
Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson instead of paying him. But I thought Baker

789
00:37:02,416 --> 00:37:04,776
Speaker 6: was one of those guys that was the first and

790
00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:07,496
Speaker 6: a long period of time that was able to go

791
00:37:07,616 --> 00:37:10,376
Speaker 6: on stabilize that position, give that organization hope.

792
00:37:10,496 --> 00:37:12,856
Speaker 2: And I'm not comparing the two straight up, but Joe

793
00:37:12,896 --> 00:37:16,016
Speaker 2: Burrow did a bit of the same thing with Cincinnati,

794
00:37:16,056 --> 00:37:17,696
Speaker 2: who had a little more stability because they had they

795
00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:20,096
Speaker 2: did have Carson Palmer, right, but it was few and

796
00:37:20,176 --> 00:37:24,896
Speaker 2: far between. Because that's another program or that's another organization

797
00:37:25,496 --> 00:37:29,616
Speaker 2: that you really didn't feel the best about the overall

798
00:37:29,736 --> 00:37:32,216
Speaker 2: health from the top down, right.

799
00:37:32,176 --> 00:37:34,815
Speaker 6: And it starts with ownership a lot of time as well.

800
00:37:35,536 --> 00:37:39,656
Speaker 6: Is I mean, are they dedicated and also how do

801
00:37:39,736 --> 00:37:43,496
Speaker 6: they run their program and everything from facilities to food,

802
00:37:43,536 --> 00:37:47,336
Speaker 6: to everything that you take into consideration to make it

803
00:37:47,416 --> 00:37:51,815
Speaker 6: holistically look the way it should look to be successful.

804
00:37:51,376 --> 00:37:54,216
Speaker 5: And show the players that you care in the organization itself.

805
00:37:54,576 --> 00:37:58,056
Speaker 6: So it kind of has similar over overtones to that

806
00:37:58,136 --> 00:38:00,736
Speaker 6: of Cleveland, but we probably had a lot most in Ohio.

807
00:38:00,936 --> 00:38:04,416
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely success. Two super bowls, right, Bloomer lost

808
00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:09,536
Speaker 2: both and then Joe Joe lost one. So the Rams, right,

809
00:38:09,856 --> 00:38:10,256
Speaker 2: the Rams?

810
00:38:10,336 --> 00:38:13,256
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Joe who Aaron sacked him on the last.

811
00:38:13,136 --> 00:38:15,376
Speaker 2: No, no, no, oh that's right. Oh my god, that's

812
00:38:15,496 --> 00:38:17,936
Speaker 2: right because he beat Mahomes. Yes, he's the guy to

813
00:38:17,936 --> 00:38:18,376
Speaker 2: beat my home.

814
00:38:18,456 --> 00:38:20,056
Speaker 4: Yeah, they came back and that one, that's right.

815
00:38:21,016 --> 00:38:23,256
Speaker 2: That was no Castle comeback, though, I've seen comebacks the

816
00:38:23,296 --> 00:38:26,176
Speaker 2: Castle two fifty four touchdowns. Yeah, that's a comeback. Yeah,

817
00:38:26,376 --> 00:38:29,856
Speaker 2: you like that? How do you like that? Cowboys? Cowboys?

818
00:38:30,816 --> 00:38:33,496
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a good that's a great one. Yeah.

819
00:38:33,496 --> 00:38:35,776
Speaker 2: Because we can kind of walk through who you could

820
00:38:35,816 --> 00:38:40,776
Speaker 2: go generationally, Yeah, Stabach exactly. You could do Stabach or Emmitt.

821
00:38:40,496 --> 00:38:45,096
Speaker 6: Smith, Trey Ackman three times. So I mean, Michael Irvin.

822
00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:49,016
Speaker 2: I mean you could even do oh gosh, I mean,

823
00:38:49,056 --> 00:38:50,576
Speaker 2: I mean you can even do an offensive linean, although

824
00:38:50,576 --> 00:38:52,856
Speaker 2: it's tough to do an offensive lineman. You know, they've

825
00:38:52,896 --> 00:38:54,136
Speaker 2: really like even.

826
00:38:54,056 --> 00:38:57,416
Speaker 5: They've had back Martin was Yeah, Zach Martin is all time. Yeah,

827
00:38:57,616 --> 00:38:58,136
Speaker 5: first ballot.

828
00:38:58,176 --> 00:38:59,856
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame probably got to be MS Smith though, right,

829
00:39:02,296 --> 00:39:03,376
Speaker 2: I mean he set the record.

830
00:39:03,536 --> 00:39:07,496
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably have to be Emmitt Smith. Probably has to

831
00:39:07,536 --> 00:39:08,056
Speaker 5: be Smith.

832
00:39:08,376 --> 00:39:16,016
Speaker 6: Broncos Moose, Janevichek maybe yeah, Broncos Broncos John. This next

833
00:39:16,056 --> 00:39:19,056
Speaker 6: one's even though, Terrell Davis. So you met at the

834
00:39:19,856 --> 00:39:23,456
Speaker 6: Super Bowl gold jacket on that does gold jacket? That

835
00:39:23,496 --> 00:39:27,696
Speaker 6: gold jacket looks pip. I mean, there is that that

836
00:39:27,856 --> 00:39:29,776
Speaker 6: factor when you see a guy in a gold jacket,

837
00:39:29,856 --> 00:39:32,096
Speaker 6: especially if you played the game, and you're like, that's awesome.

838
00:39:32,376 --> 00:39:34,256
Speaker 2: Yeah even if you did, You're like, yeah, even if

839
00:39:34,256 --> 00:39:37,496
Speaker 2: you didn't. This one's easy, But there is a pretty

840
00:39:37,536 --> 00:39:45,376
Speaker 2: close second Lions oh fair Sinners. But I think at

841
00:39:45,536 --> 00:39:50,536
Speaker 2: least he deserves to be mentioned. Is Megatron. That's a good,

842
00:39:51,016 --> 00:39:53,376
Speaker 2: good point. He's not one. I'm not arguing that he

843
00:39:53,496 --> 00:39:55,336
Speaker 2: is one, but I think for a lot of teams

844
00:39:55,416 --> 00:39:57,136
Speaker 2: he would be their best player. Ever.

845
00:39:58,096 --> 00:40:02,296
Speaker 6: Oh he was a freak of nature, freak just absolute size, speed,

846
00:40:02,816 --> 00:40:05,976
Speaker 6: everything that you could ever like draw up on a

847
00:40:06,056 --> 00:40:09,456
Speaker 6: board of what you'd want that was Megatron. Talk about

848
00:40:09,456 --> 00:40:13,216
Speaker 6: the ultimate mismatch because I think he was probably twenty

849
00:40:13,256 --> 00:40:18,136
Speaker 6: pounds fifteen pounds heavier than Randy Moss, but similar skill set,

850
00:40:18,376 --> 00:40:19,776
Speaker 6: just an absolute freak of nature.

851
00:40:19,856 --> 00:40:22,336
Speaker 3: Right, taller too right, I think he might might have been.

852
00:40:22,376 --> 00:40:25,616
Speaker 3: I mean, what was he six five six'? Nine they, said,

853
00:40:25,856 --> 00:40:31,976
Speaker 3: no just, Kidding oh, okay six nine. Seventy what Was

854
00:40:32,016 --> 00:40:34,456
Speaker 3: megatron listed when he? RETIRED i would guess six'.

855
00:40:34,616 --> 00:40:41,776
Speaker 2: Five, yep uh two thirty. Seven yep we'll both take the, Victory. There,

856
00:40:42,296 --> 00:40:45,496
Speaker 2: packers now if you, go old which we weren't alive

857
00:40:45,536 --> 00:40:48,016
Speaker 2: for to See, bart star, we weren't so it's kind

858
00:40:48,016 --> 00:40:49,416
Speaker 2: of hard for us to Yell bart star because we

859
00:40:49,416 --> 00:40:51,696
Speaker 2: saw some black and. White clips yes, we did, We

860
00:40:51,776 --> 00:40:55,016
Speaker 2: did but it's it's really between, Two People brett Farv And.

861
00:40:55,096 --> 00:40:57,736
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers And Aaron Rodgers brett farv probably takes it

862
00:40:57,816 --> 00:40:59,656
Speaker 6: because he Had Multiple super bowls.

863
00:41:01,936 --> 00:41:02,416
Speaker 5: And he was my.

864
00:41:02,496 --> 00:41:06,176
Speaker 2: Childhood, HERO yeah I think i have To Go aaron

865
00:41:06,256 --> 00:41:10,856
Speaker 2: rodgers Less, super BOWLS but I Think aaron rodgers was

866
00:41:12,096 --> 00:41:15,656
Speaker 2: the best quarterback of my. Formidable years he.

867
00:41:15,776 --> 00:41:18,056
Speaker 6: REALLY was I mean i can sit there and honestly

868
00:41:18,136 --> 00:41:23,176
Speaker 6: tell you from, skill, set yeah from also the mental

869
00:41:23,256 --> 00:41:26,536
Speaker 6: side of. The game never, through interceptions could, take off

870
00:41:26,656 --> 00:41:29,936
Speaker 6: the athleticism run do all, of it and then all

871
00:41:29,976 --> 00:41:32,096
Speaker 6: the stuff that he would do at the line. Of

872
00:41:32,136 --> 00:41:36,976
Speaker 6: scrimmage he. Was unbelievable but there was pure Joy Watching

873
00:41:37,016 --> 00:41:37,936
Speaker 6: brett favre.

874
00:41:37,776 --> 00:41:40,496
Speaker 2: Play the game because he played like we think we

875
00:41:40,576 --> 00:41:40,856
Speaker 2: would have.

876
00:41:40,936 --> 00:41:43,656
Speaker 6: Played right it was like a kid in the backyard

877
00:41:44,176 --> 00:41:48,216
Speaker 6: and watching the enthusiasm, he had the celebrations and run

878
00:41:48,296 --> 00:41:50,096
Speaker 6: AROUND with i will never forget In The super bowl

879
00:41:50,136 --> 00:41:51,776
Speaker 6: when he's run around with his helmet off just.

880
00:41:52,056 --> 00:41:52,496
Speaker 2: Like a little.

881
00:41:52,576 --> 00:41:55,496
Speaker 6: ASS kid, i mean there's something to be said about

882
00:41:55,536 --> 00:41:58,056
Speaker 6: THAT that i think that that's what brought so many

883
00:41:58,256 --> 00:42:01,776
Speaker 6: people to love, This Man brett farv when he played

884
00:42:02,376 --> 00:42:05,096
Speaker 6: was because not only, his toughness but it was how

885
00:42:05,176 --> 00:42:05,616
Speaker 6: he played.

886
00:42:05,656 --> 00:42:10,656
Speaker 2: The Game With, aaron rodgers he was never the single

887
00:42:10,856 --> 00:42:14,376
Speaker 2: best at any of the, specific skills but he was

888
00:42:14,416 --> 00:42:17,576
Speaker 2: always two. Or THREE if i were to, SPEAK more

889
00:42:17,616 --> 00:42:22,696
Speaker 2: i Would Say peyton manning probably was able, to, see

890
00:42:22,936 --> 00:42:26,456
Speaker 2: think move with his mind a little Better Than aaron.

891
00:42:26,536 --> 00:42:28,416
Speaker 2: RODGERS was I Think peyton manning was the most three

892
00:42:28,456 --> 00:42:30,736
Speaker 2: world Quarterback But aaron rodgers probably two.

893
00:42:30,896 --> 00:42:33,176
Speaker 6: OR three I believe peyton was probably one of the

894
00:42:33,256 --> 00:42:36,056
Speaker 6: most demonstrative right and you could tell like.

895
00:42:36,376 --> 00:42:38,256
Speaker 2: He was you just think because he was moving his

896
00:42:38,336 --> 00:42:39,776
Speaker 2: hands a, lot more he. Was better he think he, was,

897
00:42:39,816 --> 00:42:42,416
Speaker 2: ACTUALLY well i do processing. IT faster, i mean he

898
00:42:42,496 --> 00:42:44,616
Speaker 2: did process at probably the highest level.

899
00:42:44,656 --> 00:42:46,896
Speaker 6: We've SEEN but i also Played With tom Brady that

900
00:42:46,976 --> 00:42:49,296
Speaker 6: i'd sit There and i'd be in awe about how

901
00:42:49,376 --> 00:42:51,816
Speaker 6: he would be able to dissect a defense and understand

902
00:42:51,856 --> 00:42:54,496
Speaker 6: what was going on based on a movement pattern of

903
00:42:54,976 --> 00:42:58,136
Speaker 6: this guy's inside and the nickel blitz might, be coming check,

904
00:42:58,216 --> 00:43:00,136
Speaker 6: a play get out, of it and get to what

905
00:43:00,256 --> 00:43:00,696
Speaker 6: he wanted to.

906
00:43:00,736 --> 00:43:05,816
Speaker 5: Get to And So aaron rodgers had those same type of.

907
00:43:06,176 --> 00:43:08,816
Speaker 6: Skill sets and when you say he wasn't the, single

908
00:43:08,896 --> 00:43:11,576
Speaker 6: Best and i'd say when he was in, his prime

909
00:43:12,016 --> 00:43:13,496
Speaker 6: you never saw anybody throw the ball.

910
00:43:13,576 --> 00:43:16,976
Speaker 2: Like, Him OKAY so i would say he didn't process

911
00:43:17,016 --> 00:43:18,896
Speaker 2: as fast as Maybe a Manning, or brady but he

912
00:43:18,976 --> 00:43:21,776
Speaker 2: was always two or three. Hundred percent he Wasn't A,

913
00:43:22,656 --> 00:43:27,336
Speaker 2: mike vick he Wasn't A, lamar jackson but he absolutely. Could,

914
00:43:27,416 --> 00:43:30,976
Speaker 2: run yes he didn't have the strongest Arm Of matthew

915
00:43:31,016 --> 00:43:33,296
Speaker 2: stafford would have a, stronger arm but he was always

916
00:43:33,496 --> 00:43:35,656
Speaker 2: two or three and having A freaking so my point

917
00:43:35,776 --> 00:43:37,456
Speaker 2: is that every single thing he was in the top

918
00:43:37,496 --> 00:43:41,216
Speaker 2: three one. Hundred PERCENT and i think that's why he's

919
00:43:41,336 --> 00:43:45,416
Speaker 2: probably like the all around most talented quarterback of my.

920
00:43:46,016 --> 00:43:48,576
Speaker 2: Formidable YEARS where i got to, Watch, television now there

921
00:43:48,616 --> 00:43:51,016
Speaker 2: were Things where brady was so Good At but brady, couldn't,

922
00:43:51,056 --> 00:43:52,136
Speaker 2: run right he didn't need.

923
00:43:52,176 --> 00:43:52,816
Speaker 5: To run he didn't need.

924
00:43:52,856 --> 00:43:55,856
Speaker 2: To, run YEAH so i Would, go ROGERS but i

925
00:43:56,016 --> 00:43:59,256
Speaker 2: definitely would respect that the farmer because he didn't Win More.

926
00:43:59,296 --> 00:44:03,176
Speaker 6: Super, bowls also the Thing about rogers was he played with,

927
00:44:03,536 --> 00:44:07,216
Speaker 6: swack right he had that moxy, to him and all

928
00:44:07,256 --> 00:44:10,856
Speaker 6: the great. Quarterbacks DO but, I mean rogers always. Seemed

929
00:44:10,936 --> 00:44:13,856
Speaker 6: UNFACED and i also love the fact the guy never, wore.

930
00:44:13,816 --> 00:44:17,016
Speaker 2: Rippads like NEVER war i didn't, know, that YEAH and

931
00:44:17,096 --> 00:44:17,376
Speaker 2: i never.

932
00:44:17,456 --> 00:44:19,016
Speaker 5: UNDERSTOOD it i, was like he always would just.

933
00:44:19,016 --> 00:44:21,136
Speaker 2: Wear it was common for every quarterback with ripads OR

934
00:44:21,176 --> 00:44:22,056
Speaker 2: most i.

935
00:44:22,136 --> 00:44:25,176
Speaker 6: Mean you would, think, SO yes, i mean just based

936
00:44:25,216 --> 00:44:27,736
Speaker 6: on the fact that you're exposed all, the time and

937
00:44:27,856 --> 00:44:28,616
Speaker 6: he just never wore.

938
00:44:28,696 --> 00:44:49,096
Speaker 5: Rip PADS and i, was like what A Gangster. Texans texans.

939
00:44:50,496 --> 00:44:53,416
Speaker 2: Now we can't GO Oilers, JJ Watt, jj WATTS who, I.

940
00:44:53,416 --> 00:44:55,376
Speaker 5: HAVE Yeah, jj watts probably.

941
00:44:55,416 --> 00:44:58,736
Speaker 2: THAT guy i, Mean, there well it's a toddler of

942
00:44:58,776 --> 00:45:01,856
Speaker 2: an organization still still. FOR sure i won't, say infant

943
00:45:01,896 --> 00:45:03,576
Speaker 2: but we're toddler. Stages now but you're.

944
00:45:03,376 --> 00:45:06,496
Speaker 6: Talking about the face of, a franchise that recognizable figure

945
00:45:06,536 --> 00:45:09,376
Speaker 6: that went out and dominated for year and a year

946
00:45:09,416 --> 00:45:11,856
Speaker 6: out for a long period, of time perennial, pro bowler

947
00:45:12,296 --> 00:45:13,016
Speaker 6: all the things that you.

948
00:45:13,136 --> 00:45:13,296
Speaker 2: Look.

949
00:45:13,376 --> 00:45:16,136
Speaker 6: For leader And also i'll tell you when he lined

950
00:45:16,216 --> 00:45:17,496
Speaker 6: up on the opposite SIDE and i was on the

951
00:45:17,536 --> 00:45:19,696
Speaker 6: Field and i'm looking, At him, i'm going, oh god

952
00:45:20,336 --> 00:45:22,656
Speaker 6: see he'd block out the sun and. He was he's,

953
00:45:22,656 --> 00:45:26,376
Speaker 6: also versatile like he'd play, defensive end he'd, Move inside

954
00:45:26,416 --> 00:45:26,936
Speaker 6: they'd move them.

955
00:45:26,936 --> 00:45:27,936
Speaker 2: All around would you try to?

956
00:45:28,016 --> 00:45:31,976
Speaker 6: Find him the hard part about them when we were

957
00:45:32,056 --> 00:45:34,736
Speaker 6: Playing The, houston texas THEY Had, jj watt who was

958
00:45:35,096 --> 00:45:38,056
Speaker 6: a force to be. Reckoned with They, had clowney They,

959
00:45:38,136 --> 00:45:40,976
Speaker 6: had merciless they had dudes that could come off, the

960
00:45:41,016 --> 00:45:43,856
Speaker 6: ball and they would always try to create single matchups

961
00:45:43,856 --> 00:45:46,376
Speaker 6: because they'd go a five, down defense and so that

962
00:45:46,736 --> 00:45:49,416
Speaker 6: gave them the ability TO move jj around and move.

963
00:45:49,496 --> 00:45:52,776
Speaker 6: These guys so sometimes You see clowney standing over your

964
00:45:52,816 --> 00:45:56,416
Speaker 6: CENTER with jj outside on your, defensive end and it

965
00:45:56,616 --> 00:45:59,696
Speaker 6: was really hard to turn your protection to one and

966
00:45:59,816 --> 00:46:01,136
Speaker 6: not be screwed with the.

967
00:46:01,216 --> 00:46:02,776
Speaker 2: Other guy so you kind of had to play.

968
00:46:02,816 --> 00:46:02,856
Speaker 6: It.

969
00:46:02,896 --> 00:46:07,176
Speaker 2: Straight, cult well, That's Tough.

970
00:46:07,256 --> 00:46:11,336
Speaker 6: Marvin hers it's definitely Gonna Be Peyton Manning Baby, Jaguars,

971
00:46:11,896 --> 00:46:12,896
Speaker 6: jaguars hm.

972
00:46:14,576 --> 00:46:15,856
Speaker 5: ANOTHER infant i can give.

973
00:46:15,896 --> 00:46:20,096
Speaker 2: You, mine uh if, you're struggling you might LEFTY because

974
00:46:20,096 --> 00:46:21,616
Speaker 2: i think you Might. GO burnew i thought you Might,

975
00:46:21,656 --> 00:46:26,936
Speaker 2: go brenew but you could do uh okay to go

976
00:46:26,976 --> 00:46:27,576
Speaker 2: to the LINE then.

977
00:46:28,016 --> 00:46:30,176
Speaker 6: I mean, usc product let's. Be honest but he only

978
00:46:30,216 --> 00:46:33,336
Speaker 6: played like seven or, eight years but he. WAS incredible

979
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:38,016
Speaker 6: i would Go. Fred Taylor, Oh, freddy yeah that's he

980
00:46:38,136 --> 00:46:39,776
Speaker 6: could be that dude. FOR sure i could see that.

981
00:46:40,136 --> 00:46:42,856
Speaker 2: Fred was NOW that I, accept Brunell and i'm not

982
00:46:42,856 --> 00:46:44,616
Speaker 2: saying that's who you're, married TO but I accept brunell

983
00:46:44,656 --> 00:46:47,176
Speaker 2: because he did take a brand new organization To The.

984
00:46:47,216 --> 00:46:48,456
Speaker 5: Super, bowl yeah like he.

985
00:46:48,616 --> 00:46:53,936
Speaker 2: Was stability to in. A lefty i know he barely missed.

986
00:46:53,976 --> 00:46:57,416
Speaker 2: My list your list was all. Over there my list

987
00:46:57,456 --> 00:46:58,896
Speaker 2: got all over the PLACE because I started king so

988
00:46:59,096 --> 00:47:01,536
Speaker 2: messy was. LIKE seven i was Like, what, YEAH Yeah.

989
00:47:01,616 --> 00:47:03,176
Speaker 4: Afc championship.

990
00:47:04,696 --> 00:47:08,456
Speaker 2: Who did you? Get? Beer, lena no they just came

991
00:47:08,496 --> 00:47:11,016
Speaker 2: in at the. Same time did we have this talk? Last?

992
00:47:11,096 --> 00:47:11,456
Speaker 1: Night ye.

993
00:47:15,256 --> 00:47:16,216
Speaker 2: Let me guess who they were?

994
00:47:16,256 --> 00:47:21,896
Speaker 4: BEAT by, Cfc, there, well okay sorry with?

995
00:47:22,016 --> 00:47:27,816
Speaker 2: Him twice never to The. SUPER bowl i think he

996
00:47:27,936 --> 00:47:32,416
Speaker 2: went to The. SUPER bowl i bet my reputation. On

997
00:47:32,536 --> 00:47:34,656
Speaker 2: it you don't lose much if you lose. That, one

998
00:47:35,976 --> 00:47:37,656
Speaker 2: nope they've never been The. Super Bowl.

999
00:47:39,736 --> 00:47:42,576
Speaker 5: Blake portles went to THE A fc. Championship, too yeah

1000
00:47:42,656 --> 00:47:44,176
Speaker 5: he did. THAT one i want.

1001
00:47:44,256 --> 00:47:45,376
Speaker 2: SOME reputation i don't know how many get.

1002
00:47:45,416 --> 00:47:47,776
Speaker 5: It back i'm gonna work. On that, all right let's do.

1003
00:47:47,856 --> 00:47:51,816
Speaker 2: Two more this. One's easy it's. Too Easy, The Chiefs,

1004
00:47:54,896 --> 00:47:58,136
Speaker 2: patrick mahomes, that guy he's. Pretty good let's do two, others,

1005
00:47:58,176 --> 00:48:01,736
Speaker 2: then okay give me, Two Others, The Raiders, the raiders.

1006
00:48:04,896 --> 00:48:04,976
Speaker 5: How?

1007
00:48:05,016 --> 00:48:07,296
Speaker 2: Are, you oh it's a. GOOD one i don't put

1008
00:48:07,296 --> 00:48:10,176
Speaker 2: how long on my. Top three but unfairly Because he's

1009
00:48:10,176 --> 00:48:14,896
Speaker 2: stabler is. Too old there's a Picture of stabler at.

1010
00:48:14,936 --> 00:48:17,096
Speaker 2: Thirty five have you guys seen? The Meme it's stabler

1011
00:48:17,256 --> 00:48:19,376
Speaker 2: like thirty three or thirty four, years old maybe, thirty

1012
00:48:19,416 --> 00:48:21,896
Speaker 2: five and he looks like. He's seventy he looks like

1013
00:48:21,936 --> 00:48:24,616
Speaker 2: a seventy year. Old plumber he. Lived, hard yes and

1014
00:48:24,656 --> 00:48:27,336
Speaker 2: Then there's brady at like, forty four and it's Like

1015
00:48:27,456 --> 00:48:31,656
Speaker 2: here's stabler at, thirty three looking like grandpa.

1016
00:48:32,776 --> 00:48:32,816
Speaker 6: With.

1017
00:48:32,936 --> 00:48:35,256
Speaker 5: Modern, Medicine, brother, yes wow?

1018
00:48:35,776 --> 00:48:41,776
Speaker 2: What's up? That's, bad yeah the look. The raiders i'm

1019
00:48:41,816 --> 00:48:46,256
Speaker 2: gonna Go With, Marcus, ALLEN okay i can. See that

1020
00:48:46,296 --> 00:48:49,096
Speaker 2: and mostly it's recency bias because we played in a

1021
00:48:49,136 --> 00:48:52,456
Speaker 2: celebrity golf tournament together about three. WEEKS ago i didn't

1022
00:48:52,456 --> 00:48:53,936
Speaker 2: spend enough time with him to. Know that but he

1023
00:48:54,016 --> 00:48:55,576
Speaker 2: was nice, to me and like the three seconds we

1024
00:48:55,616 --> 00:48:58,336
Speaker 2: said hello like he. Was smiley yeah that counts, for, Something,

1025
00:48:58,416 --> 00:49:00,496
Speaker 2: right Yeah he well HE'S a usc product.

1026
00:49:00,536 --> 00:49:02,016
Speaker 5: Number, one yeah we got to stop with ALL the.

1027
00:49:02,136 --> 00:49:02,896
Speaker 2: Usc, PROCES well.

1028
00:49:03,016 --> 00:49:04,296
Speaker 6: I mean you're just naming all, the GREATS and i

1029
00:49:04,376 --> 00:49:06,816
Speaker 6: mean we have, a lot a lot of great players

1030
00:49:06,896 --> 00:49:10,376
Speaker 6: that have come OUT. Of USC but i remember being

1031
00:49:10,416 --> 00:49:12,576
Speaker 6: AT a i think It. Was marcus we were At The.

1032
00:49:12,696 --> 00:49:16,256
Speaker 6: Tahoe TOURNAMENT did i tell you? This story AND his

1033
00:49:16,776 --> 00:49:19,176
Speaker 6: i believe it was his girlfriend was on the side

1034
00:49:19,376 --> 00:49:22,176
Speaker 6: and hit the ball hit her on the top of,

1035
00:49:22,216 --> 00:49:23,376
Speaker 6: the dome split?

1036
00:49:23,456 --> 00:49:24,176
Speaker 2: Her head you?

1037
00:49:24,256 --> 00:49:26,856
Speaker 6: Hit, Her no marcus hid he hit his? Own, girlfriend

1038
00:49:27,016 --> 00:49:30,456
Speaker 6: yeah accidentally she was following the group and like split her.

1039
00:49:30,496 --> 00:49:33,656
Speaker 6: Dome open had to go get Like full staples wearing

1040
00:49:33,696 --> 00:49:35,496
Speaker 6: a white outfit to and not felt.

1041
00:49:35,536 --> 00:49:37,656
Speaker 2: So bad what are the odds you hit your girl

1042
00:49:37,776 --> 00:49:39,816
Speaker 2: even if she's? Following, you like what are the odds you?

1043
00:49:39,896 --> 00:49:42,496
Speaker 2: Hit anybody because there's a lot, of, green yes or

1044
00:49:42,616 --> 00:49:44,656
Speaker 2: the odd you hit your? OWN girl i.

1045
00:49:44,696 --> 00:49:45,616
Speaker 5: Don't know that's.

1046
00:49:45,776 --> 00:49:53,096
Speaker 6: Pretty slim last one Is A Chargers Ooh Fouts Danny Fouts,

1047
00:49:53,296 --> 00:49:58,536
Speaker 6: Winslow okay junior, sayl oh.

1048
00:49:59,416 --> 00:50:01,656
Speaker 2: Great one NOT who i gave, it TO but i would.

1049
00:50:01,656 --> 00:50:04,576
Speaker 2: Accept it I'd say JUNIOR sal i Would Say La.

1050
00:50:04,656 --> 00:50:07,576
Speaker 2: DANIYA tomlinson' i like both, of Them but I'm. Going.

1051
00:50:07,656 --> 00:50:11,976
Speaker 6: JUNIOR yeah, i mean if you think about the position,

1052
00:50:12,096 --> 00:50:13,256
Speaker 6: of linebacker did you.

1053
00:50:13,216 --> 00:50:14,496
Speaker 2: Play with him at All At?

1054
00:50:14,536 --> 00:50:14,616
Speaker 6: New?

1055
00:50:14,656 --> 00:50:16,896
Speaker 5: England yes. Incredible human what was?

1056
00:50:16,896 --> 00:50:18,056
Speaker 2: HE like i was gonna say it was like as

1057
00:50:18,056 --> 00:50:20,456
Speaker 2: the dude BECAUSE what i remember of him as, being

1058
00:50:21,776 --> 00:50:27,416
Speaker 2: relentless NonStop With the chargers and then OBVIOUSLY his ct

1059
00:50:27,576 --> 00:50:30,096
Speaker 2: set in and his life ended. Very tragically so those

1060
00:50:30,136 --> 00:50:32,136
Speaker 2: are like the two THINGS that i remember. From him,

1061
00:50:32,256 --> 00:50:32,856
Speaker 2: really sad, YOU.

1062
00:50:32,896 --> 00:50:35,696
Speaker 6: Know i mean it was HE was i think thirty

1063
00:50:35,776 --> 00:50:39,456
Speaker 6: nine forty when he came To, the patriots and this

1064
00:50:39,696 --> 00:50:42,976
Speaker 6: guy loved. Ball man and when you got to the

1065
00:50:43,016 --> 00:50:46,296
Speaker 6: stadium in, the morning it would be say we got

1066
00:50:46,336 --> 00:50:49,456
Speaker 6: there at, six, fifteen right he was had been there

1067
00:50:49,656 --> 00:50:52,336
Speaker 6: since four thirty in, the morning already, worked out was

1068
00:50:52,496 --> 00:50:53,896
Speaker 6: in the room watching.

1069
00:50:54,056 --> 00:50:57,096
Speaker 5: Film practice you'd never know that he.

1070
00:50:57,296 --> 00:50:59,696
Speaker 6: Was forty he was out there like he was trying

1071
00:50:59,736 --> 00:51:02,856
Speaker 6: to make the team, every day, making calls coming through and.

1072
00:51:02,936 --> 00:51:04,056
Speaker 5: Run fits never took a.

1073
00:51:04,136 --> 00:51:06,616
Speaker 2: Period off and then.

1074
00:51:06,656 --> 00:51:09,616
Speaker 6: The game he was the guy that would speak to the,

1075
00:51:09,696 --> 00:51:13,936
Speaker 6: team beforehand and it was this it was like a

1076
00:51:14,016 --> 00:51:16,815
Speaker 6: religious moment when you get To Hear Junior saya howell

1077
00:51:16,816 --> 00:51:20,176
Speaker 6: address the team because he was had such a great

1078
00:51:20,296 --> 00:51:24,136
Speaker 6: command and presence and just would fire you up and

1079
00:51:24,216 --> 00:51:26,136
Speaker 6: you'd be ready to run through a wall for. This

1080
00:51:26,296 --> 00:51:30,696
Speaker 6: guy and then you get off the field and he's

1081
00:51:30,736 --> 00:51:35,456
Speaker 6: the most humble individual you'll. Ever meet never met somebody

1082
00:51:35,536 --> 00:51:38,656
Speaker 6: that seemed like. A stranger nice as. Can be when we'd,

1083
00:51:38,736 --> 00:51:41,256
Speaker 6: go out he's always picking up the tab doing those kind.

1084
00:51:41,296 --> 00:51:44,256
Speaker 6: Of things incredible teammate and just a fun guy to.

1085
00:51:44,296 --> 00:51:48,216
Speaker 2: Play With. AARON donald, I Say, aaron donald you'd probably

1086
00:51:48,256 --> 00:51:50,256
Speaker 2: have to Go With. AARON donald, i know we didn't

1087
00:51:50,296 --> 00:51:52,816
Speaker 2: do the. Next one so here we Go The. Miami

1088
00:51:52,896 --> 00:51:56,216
Speaker 2: dolphins who's the greatest of? All Time, dann, Mareno Easily?

1089
00:51:56,296 --> 00:51:56,376
Speaker 6: Dan?

1090
00:51:56,456 --> 00:52:00,496
Speaker 2: Reno right who would? Be? Second Though? Jason Taylor M

1091
00:52:01,856 --> 00:52:06,136
Speaker 2: jason taylor. WAS outstanding i, mean No The? Super bowl who?

1092
00:52:06,216 --> 00:52:08,616
Speaker 5: Was uh Was? It grease he was? A, quarterback.

1093
00:52:08,456 --> 00:52:09,976
Speaker 2: Yeah but then you're TALKING people i. NEVER saw i

1094
00:52:10,056 --> 00:52:10,856
Speaker 2: just have to take the word, for.

1095
00:52:11,376 --> 00:52:12,656
Speaker 5: Yeah you're gonna have to. SAY it i mean, they

1096
00:52:12,696 --> 00:52:13,896
Speaker 5: were they were undefeated.

1097
00:52:15,176 --> 00:52:17,576
Speaker 2: Seventy Two But dan marino's by far the most.

1098
00:52:17,656 --> 00:52:20,176
Speaker 5: RECOGNIZABLE figure i mean he played for what eighteen.

1099
00:52:19,976 --> 00:52:23,656
Speaker 2: Years seventy two when they Won The? Super, bowl? Right, Yeah, Yeah, okay, shula,

1100
00:52:24,616 --> 00:52:31,056
Speaker 2: yeah Okay, The, Vikings Uh frank tarkenton might, Have Gone

1101
00:52:31,096 --> 00:52:32,776
Speaker 2: randy moss might.

1102
00:52:32,856 --> 00:52:36,216
Speaker 6: Have gone he's probably you're you're probably more up to Speed.

1103
00:52:36,296 --> 00:52:39,696
Speaker 6: With randy But fran tarkenton for the, longest time was.

1104
00:52:40,096 --> 00:52:44,696
Speaker 2: That Dude fran tarkenton again before, our time but was

1105
00:52:44,776 --> 00:52:46,656
Speaker 2: probably like twenty years, too early.

1106
00:52:47,296 --> 00:52:49,576
Speaker 5: Oh right because he was that mobile quarterback that they

1107
00:52:49,576 --> 00:52:50,216
Speaker 5: could run around.

1108
00:52:50,296 --> 00:52:53,936
Speaker 2: Make plays maybe thirty Years Because randall cunningham was twenty years,

1109
00:52:53,976 --> 00:52:55,656
Speaker 2: Too early SO maybe i loved.

1110
00:52:56,296 --> 00:52:58,576
Speaker 5: Too man he was fun to watch and he had

1111
00:52:58,616 --> 00:52:59,536
Speaker 5: an absolute cannon for.

1112
00:52:59,576 --> 00:53:02,336
Speaker 2: An arm if you go INTO the unilv, football complex

1113
00:53:02,816 --> 00:53:05,256
Speaker 2: you see big pictures of him playing quarterback but. Also,

1114
00:53:05,416 --> 00:53:09,056
Speaker 2: hunting really he was a punter and he ended up

1115
00:53:09,056 --> 00:53:10,816
Speaker 2: punting a bit IN, the nfl like he would do

1116
00:53:10,896 --> 00:53:12,776
Speaker 2: quick kicks and so you always had to watch out

1117
00:53:12,816 --> 00:53:15,176
Speaker 2: because he was a college punter and he's. Pretty, crazy

1118
00:53:15,336 --> 00:53:20,416
Speaker 2: yeah next Up. The patriots it's a.

1119
00:53:20,496 --> 00:53:22,776
Speaker 5: Tough One, matt castle man true.

1120
00:53:22,816 --> 00:53:28,656
Speaker 2: Blood, up yeah, Come on? Brady second? Who's? Second?

1121
00:53:28,696 --> 00:53:29,936
Speaker 5: Though second.

1122
00:53:34,136 --> 00:53:37,096
Speaker 2: It's a really good Question because brady made a lot

1123
00:53:37,136 --> 00:53:39,776
Speaker 2: of people Great, and kevin you are A diehard. Patriot

1124
00:53:39,856 --> 00:53:42,616
Speaker 2: fan castle you played With the patriot drafted By. The

1125
00:53:42,656 --> 00:53:44,936
Speaker 2: patriots my opinion matters at least than, this One if i'm,

1126
00:53:44,936 --> 00:53:46,416
Speaker 2: being honest because we've got a diard fan and a.

1127
00:53:46,456 --> 00:53:49,456
Speaker 2: Former Player but i'm curious to know who.

1128
00:53:49,496 --> 00:53:49,536
Speaker 6: You.

1129
00:53:49,616 --> 00:53:52,136
Speaker 2: Guys, oh, second overall who's the?

1130
00:53:52,216 --> 00:53:54,936
Speaker 6: Offensive lineman he was the first pick OVERALL from uh

1131
00:53:55,256 --> 00:53:57,336
Speaker 6: played back in. The day he was An absolute Savage

1132
00:53:57,376 --> 00:53:58,536
Speaker 6: from alabama.

1133
00:53:58,696 --> 00:53:59,176
Speaker 5: Back in the.

1134
00:53:59,216 --> 00:54:01,856
Speaker 2: Eighties, day, YES yeah i have.

1135
00:54:01,976 --> 00:54:02,496
Speaker 5: No idea.

1136
00:54:04,176 --> 00:54:05,576
Speaker 2: If you have to look him, up though does.

1137
00:54:05,616 --> 00:54:07,816
Speaker 6: It count I'M sorry i forgot, the NAME and i

1138
00:54:07,936 --> 00:54:11,376
Speaker 6: am being disrespectful To the patriots fans because he is

1139
00:54:11,456 --> 00:54:14,616
Speaker 6: an all time great Not, only patriot BUT like nfl

1140
00:54:14,696 --> 00:54:19,576
Speaker 6: player You, Googling kevin he's gonna. He will he takes

1141
00:54:19,576 --> 00:54:21,056
Speaker 6: a lot of pride in Being a patriots fan AND

1142
00:54:21,176 --> 00:54:22,456
Speaker 6: he i know this, is yeah this.

1143
00:54:22,536 --> 00:54:23,856
Speaker 4: Is yeah people are gonna like us for.

1144
00:54:23,896 --> 00:54:26,296
Speaker 2: This. One matt you guys you always just edit this

1145
00:54:26,376 --> 00:54:28,256
Speaker 2: out or leave me and go and you can just edit.

1146
00:54:28,296 --> 00:54:31,056
Speaker 2: This out and then realizing you guys have integrity and

1147
00:54:31,096 --> 00:54:34,296
Speaker 2: didn't edit, This, out joanna there. It, IS yeah i

1148
00:54:34,376 --> 00:54:36,776
Speaker 2: TOLD you i never heard. Of, him yeah. You wouldn't

1149
00:54:37,336 --> 00:54:39,856
Speaker 2: he was an absolute Dog because i'm, a loser not.

1150
00:54:39,936 --> 00:54:42,656
Speaker 5: At all just because you don't have a professional football

1151
00:54:42,696 --> 00:54:43,696
Speaker 5: team that you like. At all.

1152
00:54:43,936 --> 00:54:46,416
Speaker 2: That's true. That's, True second.

1153
00:54:47,776 --> 00:54:48,296
Speaker 4: I'm trying to.

1154
00:54:48,336 --> 00:54:51,216
Speaker 2: Think, DEFENSE yeah i almost have to go defense because

1155
00:54:51,216 --> 00:54:53,736
Speaker 2: THOSE receivers i Feel like brady had such Except.

1156
00:54:53,736 --> 00:54:56,696
Speaker 4: For moss i'm Not counting moss right because he's he.

1157
00:54:56,776 --> 00:54:57,136
Speaker 5: Was there for.

1158
00:54:57,176 --> 00:55:00,456
Speaker 2: Three, Years yeah so is, THERE now i mean a

1159
00:55:00,496 --> 00:55:02,736
Speaker 2: minimal amount, of YEARS because i don't think you Can

1160
00:55:02,816 --> 00:55:06,776
Speaker 2: say Walker or edelman or any of those Guys because

1161
00:55:06,936 --> 00:55:07,536
Speaker 2: gronk pops.

1162
00:55:07,576 --> 00:55:08,136
Speaker 5: In mind.

1163
00:55:09,696 --> 00:55:15,616
Speaker 2: But how About, Like, Bruski yeah, Willie McGinnis vince Wilfrid,

1164
00:55:15,656 --> 00:55:17,536
Speaker 2: For Seymour, Richard Seymour.

1165
00:55:18,896 --> 00:55:20,176
Speaker 5: Rodney harrison.

1166
00:55:21,336 --> 00:55:23,336
Speaker 2: But how long did? He play it was only there For,

1167
00:55:23,376 --> 00:55:24,416
Speaker 2: four yearyeah he wasn't there that.

1168
00:55:24,496 --> 00:55:28,456
Speaker 6: Long either, JUNIOR say i, was there but we already

1169
00:55:28,456 --> 00:55:30,296
Speaker 6: picked Him For. San diego but that was, all, There.

1170
00:55:31,696 --> 00:55:34,256
Speaker 2: Right so who'd you. Guys pick i'm gonna make. YOU

1171
00:55:34,296 --> 00:55:38,056
Speaker 2: commit i have To. GO gronk i think. THAT'S it

1172
00:55:38,456 --> 00:55:40,176
Speaker 2: i think that's an acceptable answer.

1173
00:55:40,296 --> 00:55:42,256
Speaker 4: For, sure yeah He's got he's got to be. My

1174
00:55:42,376 --> 00:55:45,056
Speaker 4: Pick like bruski, was amazing but he was just more

1175
00:55:45,056 --> 00:55:47,736
Speaker 4: of like a culture like this guy Is. A patriot but.

1176
00:55:47,816 --> 00:55:51,616
Speaker 2: Do You think gronk would have been as dynamic if

1177
00:55:51,656 --> 00:55:54,696
Speaker 2: he Didn't Have? Tom, brady, yeah OKAY then.

1178
00:55:55,256 --> 00:55:57,976
Speaker 6: I do but also the fact that He Had tom

1179
00:55:58,056 --> 00:56:01,496
Speaker 6: brady kind of helped him develop as a Player because

1180
00:56:01,736 --> 00:56:04,896
Speaker 6: tom was so Involved, in hey this IS how i

1181
00:56:04,976 --> 00:56:07,336
Speaker 6: want you to run, this route and this IS what

1182
00:56:07,456 --> 00:56:08,936
Speaker 6: i want you. To do and if you don't have

1183
00:56:09,496 --> 00:56:12,696
Speaker 6: a quarterback like that that kind of mold you into.

1184
00:56:12,896 --> 00:56:16,576
Speaker 6: That person it Might not it might, get there it

1185
00:56:16,696 --> 00:56:17,496
Speaker 6: might just take a little.

1186
00:56:17,496 --> 00:56:19,856
Speaker 2: Bit longer his maturity was Amplified because brady was such. A,

1187
00:56:19,936 --> 00:56:24,696
Speaker 2: dog right how about this Controversial Answer. Aaron, hernandez, okay

1188
00:56:25,736 --> 00:56:29,616
Speaker 2: definitely he was my favorite player at. The time he

1189
00:56:29,776 --> 00:56:32,656
Speaker 2: was a really good. Football, player Yes that's i'll leave it.

1190
00:56:32,736 --> 00:56:32,896
Speaker 5: At that.

1191
00:56:33,376 --> 00:56:38,256
Speaker 2: Fair Enough The Saints, Drew Brees, Drew, brees yeah second

1192
00:56:39,376 --> 00:56:42,616
Speaker 2: second For. The SAINTS can I Go? Archie, manning yeah.

1193
00:56:42,896 --> 00:56:45,416
Speaker 2: You can what Sucked For archie manning is they were

1194
00:56:45,496 --> 00:56:50,696
Speaker 2: never good and he. Was good he was like nineteen

1195
00:56:51,336 --> 00:56:55,376
Speaker 2: Eighty Seven andre dawson On THE cubs mvp on a last,

1196
00:56:55,376 --> 00:56:58,496
Speaker 2: Place team like when does that? Ever happen he was

1197
00:56:58,536 --> 00:57:01,136
Speaker 2: a stud. For Sure But drew brees is it's a. No,

1198
00:57:01,256 --> 00:57:04,696
Speaker 2: Brainer yeah i'm fine for. Second, place, second, yes yeah

1199
00:57:04,856 --> 00:57:07,576
Speaker 2: or maybe EVEN Now a kamara was. Just AWESOME but

1200
00:57:07,976 --> 00:57:10,696
Speaker 2: i Feel Like archie manning does not really get the

1201
00:57:10,776 --> 00:57:14,176
Speaker 2: credit he deserves because those. Teams, sucked yes for a.

1202
00:57:14,256 --> 00:57:23,416
Speaker 2: Long Time, The Giants, Lawrence Taylor, Lawrence Taylor, lawrence Taylor Then,

1203
00:57:23,496 --> 00:57:28,456
Speaker 2: phil Simms Then Eli Manning and i'm not even laughing.

1204
00:57:28,496 --> 00:57:28,696
Speaker 5: AT that.

1205
00:57:28,816 --> 00:57:31,416
Speaker 2: I agree, i mean And Maybe eli Manning Over. Phil

1206
00:57:31,496 --> 00:57:33,536
Speaker 2: sims NOW that i, say That Maybe eli Manning Over,

1207
00:57:33,576 --> 00:57:36,656
Speaker 2: PHIL simms i could. TAKE both i think they were.

1208
00:57:36,696 --> 00:57:39,256
Speaker 2: Different times i'm, gonna go you've. Shifted me i'm gonna

1209
00:57:39,296 --> 00:57:45,096
Speaker 2: go l t oh What ABOUT like, I mean barbara,

1210
00:57:45,216 --> 00:57:51,416
Speaker 2: was awesome straight hand. Was, AWESOME yeah, i mean, Come,

1211
00:57:51,456 --> 00:57:53,056
Speaker 2: on barbara and he gave it.

1212
00:57:53,096 --> 00:57:53,936
Speaker 5: To me he.

1213
00:57:54,056 --> 00:58:01,056
Speaker 2: Really gift pissed off, about, that, SAID yeah i get

1214
00:58:01,096 --> 00:58:03,216
Speaker 2: it if that's all you have and it's taken, from

1215
00:58:03,296 --> 00:58:06,656
Speaker 2: you but, you know it's been a while since.

1216
00:58:06,696 --> 00:58:08,296
Speaker 5: IT happened, i mean you gotta let that go.

1217
00:58:08,416 --> 00:58:25,856
Speaker 2: It him Man, The jets.

1218
00:58:27,056 --> 00:58:27,296
Speaker 5: Oh.

1219
00:58:28,376 --> 00:58:34,376
Speaker 2: The jets is that BAD that, i can't right off

1220
00:58:34,416 --> 00:58:36,416
Speaker 2: the top of my head just go BAM if i

1221
00:58:36,496 --> 00:58:41,256
Speaker 2: say nineteen, Sixty, NINE yeah i mean That's the it's

1222
00:58:41,296 --> 00:58:44,056
Speaker 2: weird he played, for, O'Brien, like yeah there, you go, Your,

1223
00:58:44,096 --> 00:58:46,416
Speaker 2: boy yeah, my boy it's Weird That joe namath Played. For,

1224
00:58:46,456 --> 00:58:49,936
Speaker 2: alabama Now Obviously joe namath was. BEFORE us i wasn't

1225
00:58:49,976 --> 00:58:51,416
Speaker 2: born until the. Freaking eighties are.

1226
00:58:51,296 --> 00:58:52,296
Speaker 5: You talking about the swag that?

1227
00:58:52,376 --> 00:58:54,496
Speaker 2: He had no just he didn't see the guy that

1228
00:58:54,736 --> 00:58:57,376
Speaker 2: played from the he's From The south, california guys because.

1229
00:58:57,376 --> 00:58:58,936
Speaker 2: HE'S not i don't think he went and Play For.

1230
00:58:58,976 --> 00:59:02,376
Speaker 2: Baron bryant but he just doesn't seem like a quarterback

1231
00:59:02,816 --> 00:59:04,976
Speaker 2: that matches at All. With alabama but we Didn't watch,

1232
00:59:04,976 --> 00:59:08,936
Speaker 2: Alabama obviously, But Yeah, joe namath who else did, You say.

1233
00:59:09,856 --> 00:59:11,776
Speaker 5: Kenny, O'Brien yeah that that won' be?

1234
00:59:11,896 --> 00:59:14,176
Speaker 4: Number Two, Wayne Corbrett wayne corbett.

1235
00:59:14,256 --> 00:59:15,776
Speaker 5: Was Good keyshawn johnson was there.

1236
00:59:15,816 --> 00:59:15,856
Speaker 6: For.

1237
00:59:17,216 --> 00:59:19,976
Speaker 2: One yeah how About, The steelers.

1238
00:59:21,376 --> 00:59:23,936
Speaker 5: Oh WE got, I mean roethlisberger's got to be.

1239
00:59:24,016 --> 00:59:26,776
Speaker 2: UP there i think that's number one as far as

1240
00:59:26,816 --> 00:59:32,376
Speaker 2: people we, can Remember Because TERRY bradshaw i, don't remember

1241
00:59:32,416 --> 00:59:34,296
Speaker 2: and it was different. For quarterbacks then he did win

1242
00:59:34,376 --> 00:59:37,136
Speaker 2: All The, super bowls and then Me And. Joe green

1243
00:59:37,176 --> 00:59:38,296
Speaker 2: apparently Me And.

1244
00:59:38,416 --> 00:59:41,416
Speaker 6: Joe green it was an Absolute SAVAGE but i still

1245
00:59:41,496 --> 00:59:42,856
Speaker 6: Think it's roethlisberger.

1246
00:59:43,056 --> 00:59:45,176
Speaker 2: For us it is for us.

1247
00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:48,696
Speaker 6: FOR sure i mean the guy and his until maybe

1248
00:59:48,776 --> 00:59:53,536
Speaker 6: his last, two seasons was an absolute stut big physical

1249
00:59:54,136 --> 00:59:56,296
Speaker 6: for being as big as, he was nobody could tackle

1250
00:59:56,376 --> 00:59:58,936
Speaker 6: him and he'd run all over the field and his

1251
00:59:59,216 --> 01:00:02,536
Speaker 6: vision down the field when a play broke down was.

1252
01:00:02,656 --> 01:00:05,256
Speaker 6: Absolutely remarkable we'd watch him, be like what is he?

1253
01:00:05,496 --> 01:00:07,296
Speaker 6: Doing it and then go all the way across the

1254
01:00:07,336 --> 01:00:09,776
Speaker 6: field and rip. It backside, you're like this guy's. A

1255
01:00:09,816 --> 01:00:12,456
Speaker 6: stud and to come in as. A rookie didn't they

1256
01:00:12,456 --> 01:00:15,136
Speaker 6: go to the playoffs as? A rookie i, Don't, remember yes?

1257
01:00:15,176 --> 01:00:15,936
Speaker 2: You do you watch?

1258
01:00:16,096 --> 01:00:17,376
Speaker 5: Every game used to Be A pittsburgh.

1259
01:00:17,376 --> 01:00:19,936
Speaker 2: Seelers fan i'm not gonna lie did not chop down that?

1260
01:00:20,016 --> 01:00:20,456
Speaker 2: Cherry Tree?

1261
01:00:21,136 --> 01:00:21,176
Speaker 6: The.

1262
01:00:21,336 --> 01:00:27,656
Speaker 2: EAGLES eagles i think we have six more, after this But.

1263
01:00:27,736 --> 01:00:29,456
Speaker 5: THE eagles I Mean reggie white played For.

1264
01:00:29,496 --> 01:00:31,056
Speaker 2: The eagles Probably, Go, REGGIE yeah.

1265
01:00:30,856 --> 01:00:33,056
Speaker 5: I mean i'm gonna Go With. Reggie white that's where

1266
01:00:33,696 --> 01:00:34,696
Speaker 5: he started, his career.

1267
01:00:34,616 --> 01:00:38,016
Speaker 2: Right and then maybe, after that Like A Randall cunningham

1268
01:00:38,616 --> 01:00:41,416
Speaker 2: randall cutting him just how dynamic, he was like he

1269
01:00:42,416 --> 01:00:45,096
Speaker 2: he shifted the game. A bit there weren't others like

1270
01:00:45,176 --> 01:00:47,456
Speaker 2: Him after it wasn't like step who shifted basketball wherever they.

1271
01:00:47,456 --> 01:00:51,096
Speaker 2: Started emulating and then threes are chunked now. Every POSSESSION

1272
01:00:51,496 --> 01:00:55,576
Speaker 2: but I think cunningham actually allowed the possibility of other

1273
01:00:55,936 --> 01:00:57,656
Speaker 2: mobile quarterbacks.

1274
01:00:57,216 --> 01:01:00,136
Speaker 5: For SURE because i mean the typical.

1275
01:00:59,776 --> 01:01:03,896
Speaker 6: Quarterback was five, step drops stay, in, pocket, throwing, rhythm,

1276
01:01:04,056 --> 01:01:07,696
Speaker 6: Big strong he just broke down defenses with. His legs

1277
01:01:08,136 --> 01:01:11,776
Speaker 6: he was a different generation, of player but he could

1278
01:01:11,776 --> 01:01:13,096
Speaker 6: play in, today's game is what.

1279
01:01:13,216 --> 01:01:15,896
Speaker 2: You're, Saying, YEAH like i Don't Think cordell stewart Happens Without.

1280
01:01:15,936 --> 01:01:19,016
Speaker 2: RANDALL cunningham i don't think he's given the opportunity To Be.

1281
01:01:19,216 --> 01:01:22,096
Speaker 2: Cordell Stewart Without, RANDALL cunningham i think he's probably. A

1282
01:01:22,216 --> 01:01:24,536
Speaker 2: receiver they do what they. Do well, you know we

1283
01:01:24,616 --> 01:01:27,896
Speaker 2: don't really have. Mobile QUARTERBACKS but I Think randall cunningham

1284
01:01:28,216 --> 01:01:30,456
Speaker 2: offered the opportunity for people to look at the quarterback

1285
01:01:30,496 --> 01:01:33,896
Speaker 2: position a, bit different which allowed, the slashes which Allowed The,

1286
01:01:33,976 --> 01:01:38,816
Speaker 2: mike vick which allowed today right because everything though is

1287
01:01:38,896 --> 01:01:42,136
Speaker 2: also matured from college like a, college game.

1288
01:01:42,096 --> 01:01:44,736
Speaker 6: And it opened the door for coordinators to look at

1289
01:01:44,776 --> 01:01:47,976
Speaker 6: the position differently from your typical like, you're saying drop,

1290
01:01:48,096 --> 01:01:49,816
Speaker 6: back quarterback they got to, be big they got to. Be,

1291
01:01:49,856 --> 01:01:52,416
Speaker 6: physical no if we get, some mobility maybe we can

1292
01:01:52,536 --> 01:01:55,496
Speaker 6: draw up. Different designs get him outside, the pocket let

1293
01:01:55,576 --> 01:01:57,696
Speaker 6: him break down a defense with, his legs and he

1294
01:01:57,936 --> 01:01:58,336
Speaker 6: just becomes.

1295
01:01:58,336 --> 01:02:00,696
Speaker 5: Another weapon and he was one of the. FIRST ones i.

1296
01:02:00,696 --> 01:02:03,256
Speaker 2: Don't Think steve young is able to Do What steve

1297
01:02:03,296 --> 01:02:06,536
Speaker 2: young does without Guys Like. Randall Cunningham Because, steve young

1298
01:02:06,896 --> 01:02:08,776
Speaker 2: although he looks like he'd be a slow, white guy

1299
01:02:08,936 --> 01:02:11,096
Speaker 2: was not a slow white Guy Like. Steve young, he

1300
01:02:11,176 --> 01:02:11,696
Speaker 2: could he could.

1301
01:02:11,736 --> 01:02:11,856
Speaker 6: Get.

1302
01:02:12,096 --> 01:02:15,816
Speaker 2: Moved again i'm not comparing what he was able to

1303
01:02:15,856 --> 01:02:17,896
Speaker 2: do on his Legs To. Ranall Cunningham But steve young

1304
01:02:17,976 --> 01:02:18,456
Speaker 2: was a. Mobile.

1305
01:02:18,496 --> 01:02:21,136
Speaker 5: Quarterback, absolutely uh left.

1306
01:02:21,176 --> 01:02:22,976
Speaker 2: Handed too we love that. You love we love a.

1307
01:02:22,976 --> 01:02:25,376
Speaker 2: GOOD lef i love a good left, he alright five

1308
01:02:25,416 --> 01:02:30,936
Speaker 2: more forty. Nine ers Speaking Of, steve young there's a

1309
01:02:31,056 --> 01:02:35,496
Speaker 2: lot here. Rich history it's really between two and a, half,

1310
01:02:35,536 --> 01:02:38,256
Speaker 2: People Right. Jerry rice it's got To Be jerry right

1311
01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:42,176
Speaker 2: of all. THE people, i mean even it's hard To

1312
01:02:42,256 --> 01:02:43,616
Speaker 2: Say joe montana is not in.

1313
01:02:43,696 --> 01:02:44,136
Speaker 5: THAT mix.

1314
01:02:44,416 --> 01:02:46,576
Speaker 2: I agree I Think joe montana is the top five

1315
01:02:46,656 --> 01:02:48,536
Speaker 2: quarterback of? All? Time right and?

1316
01:02:48,616 --> 01:02:50,016
Speaker 5: How many How Many super bowls does?

1317
01:02:50,056 --> 01:02:50,096
Speaker 6: He?

1318
01:02:50,136 --> 01:02:50,176
Speaker 2: Have?

1319
01:02:50,256 --> 01:02:52,176
Speaker 4: FOUR yeah i think four for four.

1320
01:02:53,416 --> 01:02:58,696
Speaker 2: Sounds Accurate steve young two sounds ACCURATE because i was

1321
01:02:58,736 --> 01:03:00,376
Speaker 2: going to say two, as well remember when he won the?

1322
01:03:00,416 --> 01:03:03,216
Speaker 2: First one Because And jerry rice was the number one

1323
01:03:03,296 --> 01:03:05,976
Speaker 2: receiver for both. Of them he was the. Common NOMINATOR

1324
01:03:06,176 --> 01:03:08,976
Speaker 2: and i. Think People steve young. Has three he. Has

1325
01:03:09,056 --> 01:03:10,896
Speaker 2: three we're, Very, Sorry. Steve steve.

1326
01:03:10,976 --> 01:03:12,936
Speaker 5: We apologize you've been on, the program haven't you?

1327
01:03:13,616 --> 01:03:19,376
Speaker 2: NOT yet I Think jerry rice is pretty well considered

1328
01:03:19,416 --> 01:03:22,736
Speaker 2: the great receiver of, all time With Probably randy. Moss

1329
01:03:22,736 --> 01:03:26,056
Speaker 2: second do you think, that's Universal The randy moss second

1330
01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:26,536
Speaker 2: or is that just in?

1331
01:03:26,616 --> 01:03:31,416
Speaker 6: My head it's it's comparable. For sure but he played,

1332
01:03:31,416 --> 01:03:33,696
Speaker 6: twenty seasons. Isn't He, Jerry rice.

1333
01:03:33,776 --> 01:03:35,616
Speaker 2: It's weird to see him In that. Raiders', uniform now

1334
01:03:35,696 --> 01:03:37,936
Speaker 2: that was. Very weird that. Was, weird yeah so we're

1335
01:03:37,936 --> 01:03:42,056
Speaker 2: both Gonna Go, Jerry, Rice Yes, Jerry, Rice seahawks, Seahawks

1336
01:03:42,496 --> 01:03:51,576
Speaker 2: Ooh Jim zorn, My No. Russell wilson so if you're

1337
01:03:51,576 --> 01:03:54,056
Speaker 2: gonna Go super, bowl, Winners Yeah seawan alexander, to me

1338
01:03:54,856 --> 01:03:57,056
Speaker 2: he was didn't Win A, super bowl but, god dang

1339
01:03:57,496 --> 01:04:00,416
Speaker 2: he is. Really good he was a monster In fantasy he.

1340
01:04:00,576 --> 01:04:03,176
Speaker 2: Was great now fantasy football starting to effect my picks

1341
01:04:03,176 --> 01:04:04,896
Speaker 2: there a little. Bit, Too Yeah shawn alexander.

1342
01:04:04,976 --> 01:04:06,896
Speaker 5: Was Awesome russell wilson.

1343
01:04:07,016 --> 01:04:12,256
Speaker 2: Was awesome he was in, years, too, Recency, unbiased right

1344
01:04:12,656 --> 01:04:13,096
Speaker 2: you got to.

1345
01:04:13,096 --> 01:04:15,136
Speaker 6: Take away the bias of the last few seasons and

1346
01:04:15,256 --> 01:04:19,096
Speaker 6: him just getting ripped. By everybody but when you take

1347
01:04:19,256 --> 01:04:22,176
Speaker 6: that kid and put him in his Prime With, seattle

1348
01:04:22,216 --> 01:04:25,136
Speaker 6: seahawks he was the number one reason why they went.

1349
01:04:25,136 --> 01:04:26,976
Speaker 2: Back To Back. Super bowls one one lost the, other

1350
01:04:27,016 --> 01:04:29,616
Speaker 2: one and we all know about. That one we do

1351
01:04:29,736 --> 01:04:32,296
Speaker 2: want to. That one but, you know he also was,

1352
01:04:32,536 --> 01:04:33,416
Speaker 2: very mobile like.

1353
01:04:33,616 --> 01:04:37,016
Speaker 5: Very mobile great deep all thrower three Left.

1354
01:04:38,216 --> 01:04:45,616
Speaker 2: The Bucks M, DEREK brooks i think it has to.

1355
01:04:45,696 --> 01:04:48,536
Speaker 2: BE right i, would agree Or A Warren Sapp.

1356
01:04:49,096 --> 01:04:52,096
Speaker 6: Warren SAPs, up There But, DEREK brooks i feel like

1357
01:04:52,256 --> 01:04:55,856
Speaker 6: was the face of that franchise for that, entire run

1358
01:04:55,936 --> 01:04:58,496
Speaker 6: and he ran. The Defense And mike linebacker just a

1359
01:04:59,976 --> 01:05:06,216
Speaker 6: very elite competitor and an. Incredible Person, Derek brooks i'm going.

1360
01:05:06,256 --> 01:05:10,016
Speaker 2: With, him, WELL tight I Want derek Brooks, to titans

1361
01:05:11,136 --> 01:05:13,096
Speaker 2: and would It be titan slash oilers because if that's,

1362
01:05:13,136 --> 01:05:16,416
Speaker 2: the case it's got to Be. Warn moon of course It's.

1363
01:05:16,456 --> 01:05:18,056
Speaker 5: Warm moon if if you're, going so.

1364
01:05:18,176 --> 01:05:24,816
Speaker 2: Let's Just go titans, Only, then Yeah man javon cursed,

1365
01:05:25,856 --> 01:05:31,576
Speaker 2: Mm Hmm, Ryan Tannehill.

1366
01:05:33,656 --> 01:05:35,336
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry It's.

1367
01:05:35,216 --> 01:05:39,776
Speaker 2: Derrick, Henry Derek It's. Derrick, Henry, Yeah GEORGE but I

1368
01:05:39,856 --> 01:05:44,056
Speaker 2: think eddi's. Great Too But DERRICK henry I Think derrick

1369
01:05:44,096 --> 01:05:46,016
Speaker 2: henry by Knows Over eddie George and.

1370
01:05:46,176 --> 01:05:47,656
Speaker 5: Steve McNair steve McNair.

1371
01:05:47,736 --> 01:05:49,776
Speaker 2: Is. Too yeah do you watch the documentary?

1372
01:05:49,776 --> 01:05:49,816
Speaker 5: On?

1373
01:05:49,896 --> 01:05:51,576
Speaker 2: McNair yeah that Was, crazy wow.

1374
01:05:53,536 --> 01:05:55,776
Speaker 5: Just good old country, boy too but like just the

1375
01:05:55,856 --> 01:05:58,136
Speaker 5: hell it, All, unfolded yeah and and.

1376
01:05:58,296 --> 01:06:01,416
Speaker 2: That stuff if you watch, THAT documentary i think you

1377
01:06:01,496 --> 01:06:03,896
Speaker 2: come out of it feeling a little a little uneasy

1378
01:06:03,936 --> 01:06:07,216
Speaker 2: with the. Whole, process yes of. It sucks he got

1379
01:06:07,296 --> 01:06:09,496
Speaker 2: murdered and that's let's take that out of. A vacuum

1380
01:06:09,496 --> 01:06:11,656
Speaker 2: but just after The murders i'm talking about and, the

1381
01:06:11,736 --> 01:06:14,416
Speaker 2: investigation have you, Seen, It, kevin yeah you feel kind, of, like.

1382
01:06:14,656 --> 01:06:17,056
Speaker 4: Yeah, something something there's still like a lot out there

1383
01:06:17,096 --> 01:06:17,656
Speaker 4: that we Don't Know.

1384
01:06:17,976 --> 01:06:20,016
Speaker 2: Karen karen reid trial type stuff where, you're like we

1385
01:06:20,096 --> 01:06:24,216
Speaker 2: need to retry. This crime let me. Hear yes Final

1386
01:06:24,296 --> 01:06:29,776
Speaker 2: One Washington redskin slash football. Team slash what are They?

1387
01:06:29,896 --> 01:06:33,136
Speaker 2: Whisker cats now that's probably they're changing their name To

1388
01:06:33,136 --> 01:06:33,776
Speaker 2: The whisker cats.

1389
01:06:33,816 --> 01:06:34,736
Speaker 5: This year, what's?

1390
01:06:34,816 --> 01:06:38,016
Speaker 2: New pussy we got to get one of? Those everywhere we.

1391
01:06:38,136 --> 01:06:43,136
Speaker 2: Got it we. Got it oh see my the answer

1392
01:06:43,216 --> 01:06:45,336
Speaker 2: that comes to. MY head i don't feel like it's

1393
01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:48,216
Speaker 2: FAIR because i didn't really see. Him play But It's,

1394
01:06:48,336 --> 01:06:52,296
Speaker 2: darryl green. The cornerback but he was.

1395
01:06:53,496 --> 01:06:56,536
Speaker 6: FANTASTIC player i didn't see. Him, play yeah and then You've.

1396
01:06:56,576 --> 01:06:59,616
Speaker 6: Got ripping you've got all those.

1397
01:06:59,576 --> 01:07:06,896
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks that Won Underneath, joe, gibbs right like four. Different quarterbacks.

1398
01:07:07,936 --> 01:07:10,136
Speaker 5: Then you got the offensive Lineman With russ Grimm.

1399
01:07:11,216 --> 01:07:15,896
Speaker 2: The hogs who are we? Missing here What? About? Riggins?

1400
01:07:16,776 --> 01:07:21,696
Speaker 5: Oh, riggins Yes maybe riggins the running Back Or.

1401
01:07:21,776 --> 01:07:25,056
Speaker 2: DOUG williams I Go darryl green ONLY because i don't

1402
01:07:25,056 --> 01:07:27,176
Speaker 2: have a, clear winner and that's my, first INSTINCT so

1403
01:07:27,256 --> 01:07:28,736
Speaker 2: i have to go. With it it's like when you're

1404
01:07:28,736 --> 01:07:31,936
Speaker 2: PICKING up i wouldn't fight you guys. For him he

1405
01:07:32,016 --> 01:07:32,296
Speaker 2: played for.

1406
01:07:32,376 --> 01:07:36,416
Speaker 5: Twenty seasons is? That accurate better?

1407
01:07:36,576 --> 01:07:40,216
Speaker 2: Check that why? You, play yes you. Played Twelve Darryl

1408
01:07:40,376 --> 01:07:43,616
Speaker 2: ray green the former football Player And Pro football Hall

1409
01:07:43,616 --> 01:07:45,536
Speaker 2: Of Fame. In duck he played quarnerback For The washington

1410
01:07:45,576 --> 01:07:49,936
Speaker 2: redskins for. Twenty SEASONS sorry, i thought Won Two. Super

1411
01:07:50,016 --> 01:07:52,536
Speaker 2: bowls in nineteen, ninety one he was named the world's.

1412
01:07:52,576 --> 01:07:56,016
Speaker 2: Fastest athlete green is also the leader of These Strong Youth,

1413
01:07:57,496 --> 01:08:00,416
Speaker 2: Strong Youth, strong communities a nationwide program that helps young

1414
01:08:00,456 --> 01:08:02,696
Speaker 2: people develop life skills and. Leadership, skills hey Good For.

1415
01:08:02,816 --> 01:08:09,656
Speaker 2: Darryl green that's, awesome athlete fastest athlete and what so

1416
01:08:09,856 --> 01:08:12,936
Speaker 2: his forty times was four to four back in. The

1417
01:08:13,096 --> 01:08:17,376
Speaker 2: day that would be probably now digitally like a three eight,

1418
01:08:17,816 --> 01:08:23,296
Speaker 2: Three six and that'll do it. This week, thank. You guys,

1419
01:08:25,016 --> 01:08:28,456
Speaker 2: watch out watch out for light elk. And moose don't

1420
01:08:28,456 --> 01:08:30,696
Speaker 2: do selfies with them a trip. At all, OH yeah

1421
01:08:30,776 --> 01:08:31,216
Speaker 2: i don't mess.

1422
01:08:31,216 --> 01:08:31,256
Speaker 6: With.

1423
01:08:31,336 --> 01:08:34,336
Speaker 2: Moose people people are dying nick taking selfies with, big animals?

1424
01:08:34,656 --> 01:08:35,296
Speaker 2: Isn't it most?

1425
01:08:35,336 --> 01:08:38,416
Speaker 6: Interesting thing and, Yellow, soone hey let me get out

1426
01:08:38,416 --> 01:08:39,496
Speaker 6: of this car and go up to a.

1427
01:08:39,616 --> 01:08:40,496
Speaker 2: Two thousand don't.

1428
01:08:40,496 --> 01:08:42,176
Speaker 5: Do that don't. Do, That no i'm not gonna.

1429
01:08:42,176 --> 01:08:42,776
Speaker 2: DO that i don't want you to.

1430
01:08:42,776 --> 01:08:44,176
Speaker 5: Do THAT no. I won't i'll just have my kid.

1431
01:08:44,216 --> 01:08:47,336
Speaker 2: Do it, you know. It's crazy every other week there's

1432
01:08:47,336 --> 01:08:49,096
Speaker 2: a story about somebody being up in that Part of

1433
01:08:49,216 --> 01:08:53,296
Speaker 2: america and doing a selfie with a, wild animal and

1434
01:08:53,456 --> 01:08:54,696
Speaker 2: next thing, you know they're broken.

1435
01:08:54,816 --> 01:08:57,856
Speaker 5: Or dead makes. Zero sense that's why they're called. Wild

1436
01:08:57,896 --> 01:08:58,896
Speaker 5: animal it would be cool to.

1437
01:08:58,856 --> 01:09:00,816
Speaker 2: Get a, selfie though with a big, old moose, wouldn't it,

1438
01:09:01,016 --> 01:09:03,416
Speaker 2: like honestly like right right, behind you that would. Be,

1439
01:09:03,456 --> 01:09:07,896
Speaker 2: Cool Yeah, Grizzly, bear yeah right before, you die, like

1440
01:09:07,976 --> 01:09:11,016
Speaker 2: Yeah Like grizzly bear like up on, two yeah like

1441
01:09:11,176 --> 01:09:12,456
Speaker 2: right when he's about to. Eat you but can you

1442
01:09:12,496 --> 01:09:13,656
Speaker 2: get out just? In time like that's?

1443
01:09:13,656 --> 01:09:15,616
Speaker 6: The dream or maybe just get a claw mark that

1444
01:09:15,696 --> 01:09:17,376
Speaker 6: you always, will have like a, little, scar right.

1445
01:09:17,296 --> 01:09:19,016
Speaker 2: You have to tattoo. That, in yeah if you, get

1446
01:09:19,056 --> 01:09:21,416
Speaker 2: that that will. BE it i have a Good fourth.

1447
01:09:21,496 --> 01:09:24,016
Speaker 2: July everybody we will see you guys. Next Week That's.

1448
01:09:24,056 --> 01:09:26,256
Speaker 2: Matt castle let's Pick. Off Kevin That's. Brandon ray we've

1449
01:09:26,296 --> 01:09:27,896
Speaker 2: had lots to say and we will see you guys.

1450
01:09:27,936 --> 01:09:28,776
Speaker 2: Next Week Five.

1451
01:09:28,616 --> 01:09:35,936
Speaker 1: Places Lots to Say With bobby Bones And matt castle

1452
01:09:36,096 --> 01:09:39,496
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01:09:39,616 --> 01:09:43,135
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