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Speaker 1: Dome made an announcement about her political future. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: all that more Russiagate stuff coming up on them. Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 1: I know you were hoping you'd never hear that name again.

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Speaker 1: But that's just not realistic, is it? Given the political

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris made an announcement yesterday that she's not running

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Speaker 1: for governor of California. Now, anybody who knows anything about politics,

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Speaker 1: remind you? Back in twenty sixteen, Donald Trump was wanting

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Speaker 1: States of America. So let's talk about Dome the why. First,

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Speaker 1: let's understand her background. Obviously we make a lot of

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Speaker 1: But what is her background? How did she get her start?

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Speaker 1: She got her start by sleeping with Willy Brown. Why

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Speaker 1: whatever reason. I don't know what's inside of her, what

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Speaker 1: You know people like this. You've known someone like this

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Speaker 1: That's Kamala Harris. Her entire career has been that ladder, climbing,

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Speaker 1: I never thought Kamala Harris was going to run for governor.

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Speaker 1: Why she was vice president. This is a woman who

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Speaker 1: White House. Barack Obama's finance team handed her two billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: She's running for president. She could taste it, but she lost.

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Speaker 1: She lost embarrassing, and so what happened was not an

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is big of a moron as she is.

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Speaker 1: That's all it is to it. When you hand somebody

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has run for president twice. In twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: And it's clear that you read her statement that she

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Speaker 1: That's just her last shot, it is. And look, i'd

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Speaker 3: Anyone who is eighteen today they were born in two

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Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody could vote for that. Neither

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Speaker 1: Newsome and the rear admiral here really quickly. Democrat voters

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Speaker 1: Norma will vote for you. So how do you do that?

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Speaker 4: What about for your values?

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Speaker 5: I mean, is eight years old too young?

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Speaker 6: Trying to understand all of that. Well, you know that

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Speaker 9: I think that chess is different from weightlifting, and weightlifting

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Speaker 1: we're going to be here walking through all of it.

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Speaker 1: it is getting deeper. The more we get new documents,

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Speaker 1: talk about pure Talk. Let's talk about putting your money

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Speaker 1: where your morals are. You see Hoverizon, sucks At and

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Speaker 1: me now. Rogan o'hanley, lawyer, political activists. You know him

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Speaker 1: Brogan, Why would other countries want Hillary Clinton want Joe

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Speaker 1: They're bought off.

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Speaker 1: This has been going.

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Speaker 1: I can't say you're wrong about that, Rugan, my brother

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Speaker 1: Sixty ninety days from now, We'll be bad. There is

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Speaker 1: he's going to Levenworth for ten years. What does this mean?

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Speaker 12: Well, Jesse, first of all, I'm not sure if I

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Speaker 12: know so much more about this than you do. I mean,

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Speaker 12: you basically that's by calling him just a bald alien

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Speaker 12: looking freak, because that basically is essentially what you have

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Speaker 12: to know about Judge Bosberg or Judge Bozo as I

434
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Speaker 12: was calling him a frankly kind of not to be

435
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Speaker 12: too sophomoric here, but I mean that's really what he deserved.

436
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Speaker 12: Back when we were having this whole Alien Enemies Act litigation.

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00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 12: You know, it's hard to keep track of all the

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Speaker 12: immigration related lawsuits. Frankly, even as a lawyer, I have

439
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Speaker 12: a hard time keeping track of it myself. But Boseburg

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Speaker 12: has been the epicenter of what I refer to constantly

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Speaker 12: as the judicial insurrection, which is this sprawling lower court

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Speaker 12: rise up. It's actually an excellent op beed in the

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Speaker 12: New York Times today from the conservative Harvard Law School

444
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Speaker 12: professor Adrian Vermil talking about this, this lower court mutiny,

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Speaker 12: and this has been a real thing by some counts.

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Speaker 12: There have been more so called nationwide injunctions that have

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Speaker 12: been render against this second Trump administration just in the

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Speaker 12: first six months by some estimates, then the entire first

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Speaker 12: Trump ministration combined. So the judicial tyranny is real. It

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Speaker 12: is agreed, Jitch and Judge Boseburg about as a gregious

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Speaker 12: an actor as a guest. So what actually happened here,

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Speaker 12: to get get back to our topic and kind of

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Speaker 12: talk some nuts and bolts, is that the chief of

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Speaker 12: staff of the Justice Department, a man by the name

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Speaker 12: of Chad Mazel, who was excellent, very good at his job.

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Speaker 12: He's a husband, by the way of an outstanding federal

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Speaker 12: judge in Florida, Judge Catherine Mazel, who was actually the

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Speaker 12: district court judge a few years ago who became the

459
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Speaker 12: first federal judge to rule against the mask mandates on airplanes.

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Speaker 12: That was actually our doj chief of Staff's wife to

461
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Speaker 12: talk about an illegal power couple. So the Chief of Staff,

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Speaker 12: Chad Mazel writes this ethics complaint to the Chief Judge

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Speaker 12: of the d C. Circuit, Sries Ran Navasan, essentially saying

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Speaker 12: that what Boseburg has said, both informal court writings and

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Speaker 12: allegedly out of court as well to the Chief Justice

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Speaker 12: John Roberts Way exceeds the ethical boundaries of what he

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Speaker 12: is allowed to do because what he has done, among

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Speaker 12: other things, and just frankly his legal just pigheadedness, among

469
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Speaker 12: other things, is he has attempted to influence the Chief

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Speaker 12: Justice of the Supreme Court by threatening completely baselessly saying, Oh,

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Speaker 12: the Trump administration they're not going to follow court orders.

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Speaker 12: You have to rule against them to kind of put

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Speaker 12: your foot down. And it's basically like not dumbing down

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00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 12: too much. But dude, it's not your place. That is

475
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 12: not your place. Your job is to interpret a statute,

476
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 12: to interpret an executive order, and to call balls and strikes.

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Speaker 12: Who the hell are you to tell Chief Justice John

478
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Speaker 12: Roberts whether or not you think that the Trump ministration

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00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 12: is going to abide by a court order, which, by

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Speaker 12: the way, they've done every single time. Potentially, I'm not

481
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 12: even sure they should be doing that, but they, for

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Speaker 12: better or for us, they have been doing that every

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Speaker 12: single time there. So we'll see what happens here. You're right, Jesse,

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Speaker 12: I mean, don't get your hopes of this guy's not

485
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Speaker 12: gonna be doing a purp walk. This is not gonna

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Speaker 12: be a Fonnie Willis mugshot situation anytime soon there. But

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Speaker 12: it is a nice first shot across the bout. Ultimately,

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Speaker 12: I really hope for congressional articles of impeachment against them,

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Speaker 12: these judges and things like that as well.

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Speaker 1: Josh. The New York Times, I almost I'm almost wincing

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Speaker 1: as I get ready to ask this question, because I

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Speaker 1: don't like to promote The New York Times, which is

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Speaker 1: disgusting trees in this rag which should been show down

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. But apparently they have an op

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Speaker 1: ed that's interesting. What is it?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great it's a great new op bet

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Speaker 12: from from Adrian Vermule he is maybe the only one,

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Speaker 12: maybe two right of center Harvard Law School professors on

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Speaker 12: the faculty. I've known Professor Vermuel for many years now.

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Speaker 12: We're quite friendly, and he has an excellent op bet

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Speaker 12: here calling out what he refers to as the lower

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Speaker 12: Court's mutiny, which is just this series of lower court

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Speaker 12: judges who are not merely just not following the law.

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Speaker 12: You know, this goes above and beyond. While Professor Vermule

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Speaker 12: is correctly a legend him of doing this article, what

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Speaker 12: he is saying is they're actually not even abiding by

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Speaker 12: the rulings of their superiors, so not even listening to

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Speaker 12: their bosses at the US Supreme Court. And there's any

509
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Speaker 12: number of examples here. One of the most egregious examples,

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Speaker 12: which is cited by Vermule in the article, is a

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Speaker 12: federal judge named Judge Brian Murphy, who, in an immigration

512
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Speaker 12: related ruling, issued an injunction. His injunction was overturned by

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Speaker 12: Supreme Court eight to one, with only Sodia Mayor descenting there.

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00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 12: And then it gets back to Murphy and he says,

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Speaker 12: you know what, I still think I had it right.

516
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Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lift my injunction because guess what, Soda

517
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Speaker 12: Mayor agrees with me.

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Speaker 9: Ha ha ha ha.

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00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 12: But it's like, dude, you were literally just ruled against

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00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 12: eight to one. I mean, this is outright subversion. That's

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Speaker 12: why I call it a judicial insurrection. There So an

522
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Speaker 12: excellent new op ed shining a spotlight on this.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 12: I'm not pretending that this new five page complaint against

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Speaker 12: Judge Boseburg in Washingt DC is going to be a panacea.

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Speaker 5: It's not going to.

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Speaker 12: Solve all our problems there. But this is a long, long,

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Speaker 12: overdue first step. They're a shot across the bow, if

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Speaker 12: you will, and I look forward to seeing what comes next.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the lower court judicial picks. What is the status?

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Speaker 1: Because I see people complaining about this all the time

532
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Speaker 1: of why where are they? Why aren't they getting confirmed?

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Speaker 1: Why don't they get in confirmed?

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Speaker 12: Josh, Well, actually, just this week we did have a

535
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 12: wonderful confirmation Amil Bove, who is a Trump Well, he

536
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 12: was a Trump DOJ lawyer. He was one of Donald

537
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 12: Trump's criminal defense lawyers doing the outrageous Merrick Garland Jack

538
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 12: Smith Democrat law fair complex prosecution. There So, amo Bove

539
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 12: is now confirmed by the US Senate, he will have

540
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 12: his formal swearing in, but he is about to be

541
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Speaker 12: the next federal judge on the US Court Appeals for

542
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Speaker 12: the third Circuit. He's actually filling the new Jersey seed

543
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 12: that once upon a time was held by no less

544
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 12: a judge than the Great sam Alito himself. So big

545
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 12: shoes to fill. To put it mildly there, But that's

546
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 12: not standing pick there. Amol is basically exactly the kind

547
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 12: of judge that we want to see out there in

548
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 12: this Trump second term. This Maga two point zero is

549
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 12: a guy who clearly knows what time it is, so

550
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 12: to speak, who's gonna rule like he sees that he

551
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 12: is not going to bow to any left wing pressure there.

552
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 12: There's some other good circuit picks out there as well.

553
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 12: We have Whitney Hermanndorf for down the sixth Circuit of Tennessee.

554
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 12: See some other excellent lower court district court picks, especially

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Speaker 12: in the state of Missouri, which has had a number

556
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 12: of picks. But you're right that it's been a little

557
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 12: slower out of the game. That's not Donald Trump's fault necessarily.

558
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 12: These vacancies kind of just arise when they arise, So

559
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 12: part of this what has happened behind the scenes, This

560
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 12: is getting a little in the weeds there. I would

561
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 12: like to see a bit of a softer campaign to

562
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 12: try to induce more older right of center judges to retire,

563
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 12: because when they retire, Jesse, that will have the natural

564
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 12: effect of then opening more vacancies to get some young

565
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 12: guns in there. So to just give one example, I

566
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 12: clerked on the Fifth Circuit for the excellent Judge James C. Hoe,

567
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 12: in my opinion, hopefully future Supreme Court Justice James Hoe.

568
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 12: And around the time that I was clerking for Judge

569
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Speaker 12: Hoe on the Fifth Circuit, which is the Louisiana based

570
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 12: Federal Corps Appeals there, there was another judge named Judge

571
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 12: Prado who actually resigned back then in twenty seventeen twenty teen,

572
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 12: right around the time that I was clerking for Judge Hoe,

573
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Speaker 12: And that was because the first Trump administration gave him

574
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 12: a tantalizing offer to go be the ambassador to Argentina.

575
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 12: What a great idea. Why don't we just start go

576
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 12: offering some more you know, ambassadorships to like Fiji and

577
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 12: fun places like that is, to some of these senior

578
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 12: seventy eighty year olds writer of center judges there, so

579
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 12: I would like to see more of that. But overall

580
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 12: the judges who have been named thus are quite good.

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Speaker 1: I think, Josh, can we pay him? And this is

582
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Is it legal for some I don't know,

583
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: rich right wing guy to say, hey, how about five

584
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: million dollars? Why don't you go retire?

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00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 12: Look, you know, a private financial transaction between two parties

586
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 12: is not the kind of thing that I think would

587
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 12: would be per se illegal. I mean I hesitate to

588
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 12: give a firm legal opinion because it's always there's some

589
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 12: sort of law that I'm missing here. It's certainly nothing

590
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 12: that I've ever thought of before, Jesse. But you know,

591
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 12: various inducements. I think you're on the right track here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, I'm always game to commit some crimes, okay, Josh.

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00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Finally the Supreme Court the next docket. Apparently there are

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Speaker 1: some doozy big cases. What are they all? Right?

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00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 12: So look, we're gonna get started here in October for

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Speaker 12: the for the fourth coming in twenty twenty five, twenty

597
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 12: twenty sixth term. There's already a number of big ones

598
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 12: to look forward to, at least two that I am

599
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 12: definitely going to be keeping a very close eye on that.

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00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 12: Come immediately to minds one is there's gonna be another

601
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 12: major so called transgender case. There was a massive victory

602
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 12: of the Supreme Court lest we forget, in the Skurmetti

603
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 12: case out of Tennessee involving so called gender affirming care

604
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 12: aka child mutilation and chemical castration. That was a massive

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00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 12: six to three victory for the forces of civilizational sanity

606
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 12: over the transgender lobby. There basically said that Tennessee and

607
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 12: therefore all states can protect these vulnerable kids from the

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Speaker 12: predations of so called transgender medicine. A very similar case

609
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 12: on the dock in next term has to do with

610
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Speaker 12: the sports issue. So Ken, the states actually ban biological

611
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 12: males from competing against against females, you know, hint, hint, nudge, nudge.

612
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Speaker 12: Obviously they can. I'm pretty optimist of the Court will

613
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 12: rule the correct way on that one. And then a

614
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Speaker 12: similar kind of culture war lgbt ish issue comes out,

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Speaker 12: I believe of the state of Colorado. This has to

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Speaker 12: do with so called conversion therapy for minors. Ken states bannits.

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Speaker 12: So this gets into the issue of parental rights. You know,

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Speaker 12: who controls the child's upbringing there. The court has been very,

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Speaker 12: very strong, very strong when it comes to affirming parental

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00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 12: rights there. We saw that just this past term in

621
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 12: multiple cases, including this digital pornography case at Texas and

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00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 12: this bookcase out of Montgomery County, Maryland.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 12: So I'm cautiously optimistic that that case will also go

625
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 12: the right way and that these bands on so called

626
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 12: conversion therapy will be tossed out because it's not up

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00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 12: to the states, up to the parents there. But I'm

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 12: a little more skeptical on that one. It'll come down ultimately,

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Speaker 12: I think to the briefing and the oral argument.

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Speaker 1: Josh, thank you brother. As always, I love fresh olive oil.

631
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd say those words before, but I do.

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Speaker 1: I do. The olive oil you eat is old. We

633
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: don't realize that it's kind of fall and flavorless because

634
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: it sits on the shelf in the grocery store for months,

635
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Speaker 1: sometimes years. Did you know that I didn't know that?

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Speaker 1: That's news to me. Try one bottle fresh from a

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Speaker 1: farm You'll know what I'm talking about. Farm Fresh two

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Speaker 1: I was skeptical they'll send you a thirty nine dollars

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Speaker 1: bottle for free. Farm Fresh two four six dot com.

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Speaker 1: Let them send you a bottle, you pay like a

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Speaker 1: buck to cover the shipping. You'll be back farm Fresh

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Speaker 1: two four six dot com and we'll be back. We

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Speaker 1: got great GDP numbers in three percent. Apparently there was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be two point five. It came in at

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Speaker 1: three percent. Why I was told everything would be disastrous?

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Speaker 1: Why I don't know why. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 1: this stuff. That's Dave's job. Joining me now, Senior VP

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Speaker 1: of business Relations at Liberty University and former Congressman Dave

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Speaker 1: Bratt joins me. Okay, Dave, could you please explain why

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Speaker 1: we had good GDP numbers when I was told everything

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Speaker 1: that's going to suck.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a long story, right. So the first point

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Speaker 5: is probably if Biden was still in office, you would

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Speaker 5: not have these numbers. The big beautiful bill. Right, we're

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Speaker 5: still doing two trillion dollars worth the government spending, deficit spending, right,

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Speaker 5: and so if you took that fake stimulus out of

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Speaker 5: the economy, we'd be in the middle of a recession.

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Speaker 5: So on top of that, then you have all the

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Speaker 5: gloomy dumers and the Wall Street Journal and all the

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Speaker 5: establishment elites saying Trump's tariffs and all this global alignment

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Speaker 5: thing is gonna nuke us, and so there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of headwinds. And so Trump basically has changed Wall Street's expectations. Right,

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Speaker 5: all that He's got about ten trillion dollars coming in

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Speaker 5: right in capital investment over the years the next few years.

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Speaker 5: That's not in place yet, but that's going to be

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Speaker 5: produced profound economic growth, right, if we can get rid

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Speaker 5: of government spending, if the betteral Reserve would lower the

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Speaker 5: interest rates a little bit, and then ending illegal immigration,

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Speaker 5: so everyone's income goes up, right, especially the working class.

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Speaker 5: And so basically Trump, you know, when people think of tariffs,

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Speaker 5: I think of these little efficiency triangles, and that's just

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Speaker 5: the wrong way to look at it. The World Bank

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Speaker 5: Bank of America, and I think Ernst and Young had

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Speaker 5: another chart along with the Varro's charts out of the

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Speaker 5: White House that showed all the g twenty countries, right,

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Speaker 5: the rich twenty in the European Union eighty percent of

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Speaker 5: world GDP. Right, So the rich twenty countries had two

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Speaker 5: hundred to three hundred percent higher tariff and non tariff

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Speaker 5: barriers on us than we had on them. Trump's changed

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Speaker 5: the entire playing field. They said, no more of this.

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Speaker 5: If you explain that to the American people, they go,

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Speaker 5: what we were doing? What right? We were getting played? Right?

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Speaker 5: We were getting played in addition to providing you know,

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Speaker 5: the post World War two at Woods liberal order, taking

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Speaker 5: care of the sea lanes, peace for the nations, all

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Speaker 5: this stuff we do for the world, we're not getting paid.

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Speaker 5: Trump said, nope, you want to join our club, You're

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Speaker 5: gonna pay a special fee. And now he's got major

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Speaker 5: capital investment, which is the number one driver of economic

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Speaker 5: growth coming in huge. That'll take a year or so

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Speaker 5: right up to midterm elections. But basically Wall Street now

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Speaker 5: sees what he's doing. They get it, and so their

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Speaker 5: expectations are high. So the stock market is up. That's

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Speaker 5: not the real economy yet, but the real economy and

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Speaker 5: GDP growth we had a good number of this quarter,

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Speaker 5: and so that's that's good news.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Dave, can you explain to me, like I'm dumb,

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Speaker 1: how did we end up paying so much more than

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Speaker 1: other countries pay. How did we end up in that situation?

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Speaker 1: It's so lopsided that when you lay it out like that,

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Speaker 1: people's eyes bug out and say, wait, what, how did

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Speaker 1: that happen?

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Speaker 5: I think it's just a nomination of laziness. And then

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Speaker 5: you have some forces at the highest level. Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 5: just had a great interview with a FED expert. Make

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Speaker 5: sure you get him on the show. Basically, our elites,

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Speaker 5: the CIA, State Department, USAID, World Bank, IMF, we've been

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Speaker 5: tanking other countries. We've been playing major geopolitics. Some of

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Speaker 5: those folks want to bring the US down a notch, right.

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Speaker 5: They don't want nation states, they want one world government,

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Speaker 5: and the US exceptionalism is the is a detriment to

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Speaker 5: their progress having this global order if you want to

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Speaker 5: you know, the European Union, right, that's kind of the analogy, right.

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Speaker 5: And when you hear about you know, uh US Digital

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Speaker 5: Federal Reserve, Federal Federal Reserve, digital currencies right where they

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Speaker 5: can control your money and stuff like that. Trump is

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Speaker 5: like the last barrier to that happening. So we had

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Speaker 5: folks that really were trying to do US harm. The

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Speaker 5: c I A is front and center, State Department, USA,

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Speaker 5: I DU and that's and then just general incompetence there's

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Speaker 5: no incentive, uh, to to make sure that the American

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Speaker 5: people do well. The elites like going and being recognized

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Speaker 5: by other elites, and if we always pay the bill. Hey,

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Speaker 5: everybody loves you. What Trump's doing right now is you know,

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Speaker 5: taking some spinach. Everyone may not like you, but they'll

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Speaker 5: respect you, and he will improve the situation for the

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Speaker 5: for the world's population in addition to making America great again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Dave, So why don't think elites care about America anymore?

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Speaker 1: That's not how they used to be. You mentioned there's

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Speaker 1: no incentive. The incentive used to be your country, and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even universally a republican thing. Even guys like

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Speaker 1: JFK would fight out and die for this country. What happened?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's right. We used to have this group

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Speaker 5: of people called liberals. I like liberals, right, they were

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Speaker 5: fund We have classical liberals like Madison and Adam Smith.

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Speaker 5: But then you had the JFK Liberals and the Democrats,

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Speaker 5: and they wanted to spend too much money and all that,

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Speaker 5: but you could debate with them, and they cared about kids,

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Speaker 5: and they didn't want war and all these kind of

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Speaker 5: nice things, and so but the problem is the Liberals

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Speaker 5: went through some kind of psychological revolution. Now they're Marxist, right,

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Speaker 5: they're neo Marxists that divide the world by gender and

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Speaker 5: every alphabet letter soup on earth. And I think it's

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Speaker 5: basically the true answer to your question. I think it's

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Speaker 5: a spiritual deform formation problem, right. They they are really

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Speaker 5: upset that they aren't making it the way they envisioned

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Speaker 5: in the world. They take their bitterness out on the country.

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Speaker 5: There's a hostility towards the US. There's a hostility toward

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Speaker 5: white America. Now I guess there's a hostility toward you know,

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Speaker 5: heterosexual you know, normal kids in schools. They all need

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Speaker 5: surgeries and all of that so been ended. And so

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Speaker 5: it's in the papers today. I saw it was one

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Speaker 5: of the you know, mainstream kind of things CNN or

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Speaker 5: Washington Post. Twenty five percent of the American population now

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Speaker 5: say they're suffering some form of mental illness. And so

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Speaker 5: there's some serious going on in the water with this

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Speaker 5: self hatred and we got to fix that, right, And

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Speaker 5: it's kind of the loss of the Judeo Christian West

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Speaker 5: that we don't teach ethics in school anymore. We don't

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Speaker 5: teach what good and evil is. We don't teach if

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Speaker 5: there's a god or not. None of the basics are

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Speaker 5: in place. And if everything is permissible, everything's permissible.

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Speaker 1: Dave, Why did we get a rate cut? If things

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Speaker 1: are going so gangbusters and wall streets finally calmed down

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Speaker 1: and we got this money coming in and things are going,

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Speaker 1: why not a rate cut?

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Speaker 5: Well, they they're still under this. The answer is it's

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Speaker 5: probably political, right, that's the answer. Right, they gave Biden

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Speaker 5: a rate cut before the election. Why is that right?

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Speaker 5: So now they think, you know, the trade situation still

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Speaker 5: might pop prices a little bit or something, in spite

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Speaker 5: of the evidence from the first term and the second,

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Speaker 5: the third term so far, there's no evidence for that.

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Speaker 5: The real solution here is Trump, if he's listening, or

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Speaker 5: any guys that the White House are listening, they ought

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Speaker 5: to put some pressure for some spending cuts. Right, if

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Speaker 5: you got rid of that two trillion dollar deficit spending,

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Speaker 5: we'd be in a recession. So no one wants to

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Speaker 5: cut the spending on their watch, right, But that's two

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Speaker 5: trillion dollars that's crowding out the private sector, and everyone

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Speaker 5: says we're supply siders now, thank god. Right, but if

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Speaker 5: Trump would make a deal, Hey, we're gonna cut spending.

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Speaker 5: But hey, fed Powell, when we cut spending, you're going

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Speaker 5: to stimulate and print some money. So there's your compromise

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Speaker 5: that really can work. Right, Cut the spending, Speaker Johnson,

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Speaker 5: Senate Thoon, cut the spending. Make a deal with Powell

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Speaker 5: that in exchange for slowing down the economy without as

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Speaker 5: much government spending, we're gonna do some fed rate cuts.

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Speaker 5: The markets will love it because you're getting rid of

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Speaker 5: government funding, you're shoving it back into business, and you

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Speaker 5: get lower interest rates. So it's a win win except

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Speaker 5: for the people who hate America.

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Speaker 1: Dave, you are the best brother. Come back soon. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Lighten the mood next, all right, it is time to

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Speaker 1: lighten the mood. And you know, sometimes you forget what

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Speaker 1: a gigantic dork Corey Booker is because he's weird. He

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Speaker 1: just disappears for long periods of time, and then it

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Speaker 1: seems like every few years he'll pop up and remind everybody, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm Corey Booker and I'm a gigantic dork and we

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Speaker 1: just had another sighting.

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Speaker 13: It's time for Democrats have a backbone. It's time for

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Speaker 13: us to fight. It's time for us to draw lines,

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Speaker 13: and when it comes to the safety of my state

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Speaker 13: being denied these grants, That's why I'm standing here. Don't

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Speaker 13: question my integrity, don't question my motives. I'm standing for Jersey,

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Speaker 13: i am standing for my police officers. I'm standing for

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Speaker 13: the Constitution, and I'm standing for what's right. And Dear God,

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Speaker 13: if you want to come up to me that way,

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Speaker 13: you're gonna have to take it up with me, because

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Speaker 13: there's too much on the line right now in America.

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Speaker 13: As people's do process rights and freedom of the speech rights,

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Speaker 13: and secret police are running around this country picking people

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Speaker 13: up off the streets who have a legal right to

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Speaker 13: be here. There's too much going on in this country.

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Speaker 13: When are we gonna stand together for principles that I

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Speaker 13: just heard that we're agreed with. When are we gonna

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Speaker 13: stand together. If we don't stand as Democrats, we deserve

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Speaker 13: to lose. But if we stand united, if we stand strong,

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Speaker 13: we stand with other people, if we tell who the

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Speaker 13: course of conviction in America, what this president is doing

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Speaker 13: is wrong. If we stand up and speak that way,

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Speaker 13: Dear God, we will win, like all of those people

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Speaker 13: in our ancestors who join hands together and said we

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Speaker 13: shall overcome. No, not on my watch. I'm protecting Jersey today.

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Speaker 13: I'm protecting our constitution today.

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Speaker 4: I'm so forced.

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Speaker 1: It's just the least genuine thing ever. Let's see it