WEBVTT - #326 Packers Unscripted: Redskins rundown

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford joined alongside my trusted colleague West

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<v Speaker 1>hodkoits were coming to you hear from our studios at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field and West. It is Wednesday, which in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL world is turned the page day and the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>now looking forward to Sunday afternoon at FedEx Field in

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<v Speaker 1>the nation's capital, Packers Redskins a noon Central one Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>time kickoff. So let's break down that NFC East Washington

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<v Speaker 1>team a little bit, and it starts with their brand

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<v Speaker 1>new quarterback Alex Smith. The Redskins obviously moved on from

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins. He became a free agent signed with the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings, and Alex Smith coming over from the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs to now run Washington's office. Well, it's just funny, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just shows you the levels to this thing

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the NFL, where you have a team

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<v Speaker 1>like Washington, which for so many years could not really

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<v Speaker 1>come to an agreement. I didn't really know what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do at quarterback, if Kirk Cousins was their

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<v Speaker 1>guy or not. Well, Cousins ends up becoming an unrestricted

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<v Speaker 1>free agent and then becomes at that time like getting

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<v Speaker 1>the highest paid you know free and franchise tagged him twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye right, Yeah, so it was it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird the way that that situation played out, be that,

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<v Speaker 1>as it may, you have him go over to the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings and then you have the we have Watchington

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<v Speaker 1>trade for Alex Smith and then give him the extension

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<v Speaker 1>that they never gave to to Kirk Cousins. So certainly

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like Smith is a guy that that can

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<v Speaker 1>lead them to where they want to go. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's been doing this thing for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of know the game with him. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the football. There's not always gonna be those

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<v Speaker 1>explosive plays, but he's going to be consistent. And Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have had a lot of wars with Alex Smith over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, jading back to his time with San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>and even with Kansas City, and this is another chapter

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<v Speaker 1>and that that rivalry. Yeah, when there's uh, the descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>that come to mind for me with regards to Alex Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>I always think of efficiency and minimal mistakes. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really turn the ball over. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>his statistics, he's always around completions or at least high sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, not a whole lot of explosive plays,

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<v Speaker 1>though he started to make a few more of those

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<v Speaker 1>with those weapons in Kansas City last year, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the speed that they had on the perimeter. But with

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Smith, now will this be the this will be

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<v Speaker 1>the third different opponent that as far as Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>versus Alex Smith, and they're they're always going to be tied.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of that two thousand five draft, Smith goes number

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<v Speaker 1>one overall and then Aaron Rodgers waits forever in the

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<v Speaker 1>green room. Well, now Rogers has faced him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, Kansas City. Now it will be Washington. So

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<v Speaker 1>just another little side story to that. But when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to his weapons here in this Jay Gruden offense

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington. For me, anyway, it starts with that tight

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<v Speaker 1>end Jordan Reid. I think he is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest matchup for really any defense that faces Washington

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<v Speaker 1>this year. He's big, he's athletic, he can take it

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<v Speaker 1>down the seam, he can break tackles, get yards after

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<v Speaker 1>the catch, all those kinds of things. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that that they want to run this passing

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<v Speaker 1>offense through once kind of everybody gets settled into what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. Yeah, I think Jordan Read certainly is a

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<v Speaker 1>premier tight end in this league. I think Chris Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>has shown two out of the backfield being a multidimensional

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<v Speaker 1>player that you kind of need in this day and

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<v Speaker 1>age with the game. But but Reid is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sort of jumps off the page to you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't gotten off to this super crazy start, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he has been a guy that appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have developed in early chemistry with Alex Smith. The transition

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<v Speaker 1>Smith's gonna have to make, and he did it to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent when he was in San Francisco. Is He's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't appear at least, and there's no disrespect Washington

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't appear. He's going to have the weapons that he

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<v Speaker 1>had in Kansas City the past few years in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the speed element in the explosiveness out of the backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Jamal Charles and then transitioning last year

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<v Speaker 1>to to obviously the the season that they had there

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<v Speaker 1>in the running games. So it's gonna be different. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some older weapons in this I mean Jamison Crowder

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy that's been there for a number of

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<v Speaker 1>years now, Josh Dockson, and then them having all of

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<v Speaker 1>these you know, you saw this week Michael Floyd gets signed, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Brichard Breland ends up getting signed as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be interesting to see where all these pieces

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<v Speaker 1>fit for them now because you're adding veterans, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>adding them late in the process, imagine you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to see much of them uh going for and I

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<v Speaker 1>said Shard, Uh, a lot of Bischard's going on. But

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever the case may be, sure there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different people that that Alex Smith is gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to get comfortable with. Yeah, they're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they're receiving. Cores is is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>They spent some big money on Paul Richardson, a free

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<v Speaker 1>agent from Seattle, and then you mentioned docks and a

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<v Speaker 1>former first round draft pick who really hasn't lived up

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<v Speaker 1>to the expectations. They're still experiencing drop passes in lack

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<v Speaker 1>of consistency and all that. He's he's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a long limb guy. He's got the speed, all the

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<v Speaker 1>all the physical you know, the measurable stuff is there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just hasn't come together for him yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're still waiting on on docks. And you mentioned Chris Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>Always seems like the Redskins have one of these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't I don't like to overuse hybrid player,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of these uh offensive, yeah, offensive gadget type

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<v Speaker 1>of players. And and that's no disrespect to Thompson. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's one of these guys that can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>line up anywhere in an offensive formation and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how you're gonna match up with him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and Thompson, that's his that's his trade. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not even disrespectful that that that's what he brings to

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<v Speaker 1>the table. That's what he offers. I mean, he's five

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<v Speaker 1>ft eight pounds. He's never carried the ball more than

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<v Speaker 1>seventy times in a season, but yet you look the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years. Five ten receiving yards this year almost

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<v Speaker 1>has doubled the other receivers on this team in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the amount of opportunities he's had as a pass catcher.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's the guy you're gonna have to account for

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<v Speaker 1>and then on the other side of it, there Bell

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<v Speaker 1>cow back here. The first two weeks has been Adrian Peterson.

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<v Speaker 1>The history with the Green Bay Packers is well defined.

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson's different player at this stage of his career, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's still hungry man and and although things were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of up and down last year with Arizona, he still

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<v Speaker 1>had that one game where he can carry the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>what thirty seven times or something like that and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to still be effective. So at this stage of

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<v Speaker 1>his career, I don't know if he's still the same

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<v Speaker 1>type of player he was when the Packers were having

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<v Speaker 1>to go toe to toe with him two times a year,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still a guy that you can't overlook. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson already kind of being up and down, much like

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<v Speaker 1>this entire Washington team through the first two weeks. Looked

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<v Speaker 1>very impressive in week one in Week one against Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and what we saw of Arizona in Week two, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you wonder just where they're headed in then Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>they have their home opener against the Indianapolis Colts reports

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<v Speaker 1>where they were like twenty thousand empty seats, the fans

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<v Speaker 1>not coming out to support the team, they only scored

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<v Speaker 1>nine points offensively. They lose to the Andrew Luck led

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis Colts to nine and I believe was the final score.

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson has a really nice game rushing the ball against

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals, but then it was something around ten carries

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty yards against the Colts. So really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out. You know, they're they're still trying to to

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<v Speaker 1>find their way here with their new quarterback and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing offensively. The one thing that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good situation for him, at least it appears to be,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I don't know what their plans are

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<v Speaker 1>for how they're going to attack this backfield going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>But you saw last year how effective he was in

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<v Speaker 1>Spurts in Arizona in contrast to how New Orleans was

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<v Speaker 1>using him. I mean, he's not He's just not a

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<v Speaker 1>part time player. He's a guy that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>build up. You have to give him those touches. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like by all accounts right now, Washington's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give them that opportunity. All right. Well, before we

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<v Speaker 1>the name that jumps out to me when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at Washington's defense is Josh Norman as that number one cornerback. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw a pretty good matchup last week, Xavier Rhodes

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<v Speaker 1>against Davante Adams. They were matched up, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of the game. I didn't necessarily track

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<v Speaker 1>or chart every single snap. I thought Adams did a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a job. I know a pass or two

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<v Speaker 1>he'd like to have back in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some passes that I'm sure he felt he should have

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<v Speaker 1>or could have caught um. But Adams won his share

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<v Speaker 1>against Xavier Rhodes, and so this matchup, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Norman is going to be the guy on Davante Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Adams is off to a decent start because

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to see these number one corners from the

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<v Speaker 1>opponent pretty much all season long, don't he thing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean the thing about Josh Norman is he's

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<v Speaker 1>just in this no disrespect to the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>secondary there for watching, but he's head and shoulders their

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<v Speaker 1>stud and he's a guy that you know, without knowing

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how they do it. You go back to his

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<v Speaker 1>time in Carolina, He's a shutdown corner. He's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that can travel with guys, can try to shut down

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<v Speaker 1>the top guy and you know, reduce that that threat.

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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing about Adams though, is he's a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>number one at this point. You can put him up

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<v Speaker 1>against any corner of the league and he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>his separation. He's gonna get his opportunities, as you just illustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we saw that to some extent against Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact he was playing through that shoulder injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, from there, I mean, you have Quentin

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<v Speaker 1>Dunbar's the other one. He was a former college free

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<v Speaker 1>agent DJ Swerringer who actually took a visit I think

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<v Speaker 1>with the Packers. I want to say in two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen or fifteen. He's kind of resurrected his career as

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<v Speaker 1>a safety, uh in Washington the past few seasons. Has

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<v Speaker 1>made some plays this year. I think he hasn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, ten interceptions over the last three years. So

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<v Speaker 1>they do have playmakers back there. But but certainly everything

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<v Speaker 1>starts and stops with the coverage aspect of Josh Hi

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<v Speaker 1>And they paid him a lot of money to be

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<v Speaker 1>their number one and he's he's lived up to that

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<v Speaker 1>so far. Yeah, as far as Washington's defensive front, not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of household names, I guess you would say,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's one guy that stands out from a name perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pass rusher Ryan Carragan. But a group that is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid. This is this isn't a defensive front seven

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<v Speaker 1>that's uh, that's a bunch of pushovers by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>They they do a solid job against the run, They

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<v Speaker 1>get after quarterbacks pretty well. Again, it's it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of Pro bowlers. And you know, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are certainly faced their share of tough defront defensive fronts

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<v Speaker 1>so far with the Bears and the Vikings. But but

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<v Speaker 1>this Washington group is Uh, you know, they're not too bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Karagan was answering some questions with Washington's media this

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<v Speaker 1>week about, you know, just kind of being off to

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<v Speaker 1>a slow start. He has one assisted tackle i think

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<v Speaker 1>in two games and in no sacks. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been so consistent over the course of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's pretty much always good for seven or

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<v Speaker 1>eight sacks this season. They've featured him in this defense

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<v Speaker 1>now for the last six seven years. He's been their

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<v Speaker 1>number one guy, regardless of who the defensive coordinator is

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<v Speaker 1>or what the scheme is. So um, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that that's a guy they're still gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking an account and in nullify and then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Parnel McPhee or pount whatever his name is from wah

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago has also landed there as well, also off to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a slow start, but a guy that at

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<v Speaker 1>times in his career has been in a really effective

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<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. For me, one of my favorite guys in

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<v Speaker 1>their defense is Mason Foster. Um, you know, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>another guy too much like Swearinger h and also coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Tampa Bay, was really able to sort of resurrect

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<v Speaker 1>himself and was a guy that I think a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago at a hundred and twenties some tackles

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<v Speaker 1>in this defense. He's a downhill type guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the first and second down type, you know, tackler.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think what he's done in Washington's defense the

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<v Speaker 1>last three seasons, um, you have to you have to

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<v Speaker 1>respect it because he's he's a dude that is a

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<v Speaker 1>hard nosed football player. And then you also Pyerraim inside

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<v Speaker 1>with Zach Brown, those are those are two guys you

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<v Speaker 1>have to take into account against the run. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you make overall of this Washington team? West?

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's only two weeks in, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>it seems the narrative in the Jay Gruden regime there

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington has always been a lack of consistency. And

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the same thing with Kirk Cousins at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>They could light the world on fire and look like

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna contend for the NFC's championship with Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles and the Giants and all that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the very next week, you know, they kind of fall

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<v Speaker 1>flat on their face. And then everybody says well it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be this year, and these first two

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<v Speaker 1>games of the ten season, it's like the narrative hasn't changed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's probably gonna be. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it's a make or break season for Gruden. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>give the Washington credit for the patients they've had. They've

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be quite reactionary with how they've done things,

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<v Speaker 1>just a dad, But I mean, honestly think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, outside of what Joe Gibbs coming back, there

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<v Speaker 1>really hasn't been much patience there with coaches. They've given

0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Gruden that benefit of the doubt, but at some point too,

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<v Speaker 1>you do want to see the consistency rise. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you know, things kind of you know pan out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one thing they have going for them now

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<v Speaker 1>is one way or another, they know who their quarterback is.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't this year to year question mark of whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not it's going to be Kirk Cousins. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have Alex Smith. He's still at a relatively

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<v Speaker 1>young age for the position, considering how he plays it

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<v Speaker 1>in and really how long these guys are playing into

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<v Speaker 1>their careers. So from that aspect, I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>something to build around. But it is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>question of defensively they can really get the group together

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<v Speaker 1>that they need to be able to compliment Smith because

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<v Speaker 1>every every spot Smith has been as consistent as he is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's needed a defensive compliment him for the short time

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<v Speaker 1>he was with San Francisco when they started to become

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<v Speaker 1>real contenders. He had that with Vic Fangio's group from

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. You started to get that with Justin Houston

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<v Speaker 1>and company. So it's gonna be on Washington defensively as

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<v Speaker 1>well to be able to rise on the occasion and

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<v Speaker 1>give him the support he needs to to really be

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<v Speaker 1>the type of team that could consistently compete for a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff spot. Yeah. Well, the Packers in the Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>era kind of a mixed bag, I guess. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as going to FedEx Field, I remember being at the

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<v Speaker 1>game in two thousand and end. Mason Crosby had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win the game in regulation with a long

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<v Speaker 1>field goal fifty three yards maybe it was, and ends

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<v Speaker 1>up hitting the upright, you know, clank out the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the upright. I mean the kick would have been

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<v Speaker 1>good from sixty five yards. He hit it so well,

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<v Speaker 1>but just nick the top of the upright and was

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<v Speaker 1>no good there. Then you go. You fast forward to

0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fifteen, the Packers end up going there

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<v Speaker 1>as a road team in the wild card playoffs, fall

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<v Speaker 1>behind the leven to nothing, and the FedEx Field crowd

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<v Speaker 1>is really into it. They're thinking, okay, here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>here come the Redskins. And then the Packers outscoring thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five to seven. The rest of the way, Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>puts on a show and the Packers defense clamps down.

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<v Speaker 1>That was when J. C. Treader was playing left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember right, because box tr wasn't back from

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle injury. Then the following year, sixteen, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>go to Washington for Sunday Night football, back and forth

0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.640
<v Speaker 1>game through three quarters and then suddenly in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>Cousins and the big plays just kind of smoked. Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay pulled a way at the end, and uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being, if I'm not mistaken, the last loss,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the Packers until the NFC Championship game

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<v Speaker 1>against Atlanta. So a lot of history here in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of in terms of how the Packers have played there,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of ups and downs run the table

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<v Speaker 1>officially started that Wednesday after that Washington game, but but

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<v Speaker 1>I eat in a lot of ways, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>actually began in the second half because that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>saw Jared Cook finally emerge. I still remember writing that

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<v Speaker 1>story about you know, okay, this could be really big

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<v Speaker 1>for the offensive. They keep Cook cohing like this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was finally healthy. There just wasn't. They lost that game,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was just a different swagger and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly go back to the playoffs too, and in that

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<v Speaker 1>win that they had, Uh, these past whatever was a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of seasons ago, those are the type of to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to original point with the mixed bag. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there has been that, but it's also been at times

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they've also gotten something out of it

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<v Speaker 1>to propel them forward. And you know, coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>tie this week, I think they're looking for the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of uptick. Uh, you know, going into the latter

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<v Speaker 1>half of September. All right, well, we are halfway through

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<v Speaker 1>the We can We've got more to talk about with

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<v Speaker 1>this matchup on our upcoming shows, but for now we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to call it a wrap on this edition of

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