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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. As we are forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours away from the draft, Johnny, did I just

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Speaker 1: say that? John Harris with us? By the way, did

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Speaker 1: I just say forty eight hours away from the draft?

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Speaker 1: Actually it's forty nine, but who's counting?

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Speaker 2: Here we go? Are you ready? Yeah? It's funny. Mark.

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Speaker 3: If we didn't have to do these radio shows that

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Speaker 3: we do on an everyday basis, which I absolutely love,

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Speaker 3: I would absolutely just xnay on the raft day talk.

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to or it's just messing with

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Speaker 3: my head. No, Like I just know I want to

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Speaker 3: get away from it. I was giving you scenarios at

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Speaker 3: some point today as you and I were talking, you

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Speaker 3: just looked at me like you're ready. Arch.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm just done. I'm done. It's like,

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Speaker 2: let's get the baby out. Let's go. Come on.

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Speaker 1: Not only are you ready, you were talking yourself into

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Speaker 1: some crazy stuff. But that's what it is, man. I've

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Speaker 1: said it from I don't know, I said it four

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. The longer we wait, the more crazy the

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Speaker 1: talk gets. And then today we have to address this

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Speaker 1: first because I have a number of things I'm doing

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Speaker 1: tonight with you. One is the Texans needle meter, the

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Speaker 1: need meter on certain positions at certain position groups.

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Speaker 2: You're going to tell me of that.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to do Battle of the Texans drafts,

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Speaker 1: and tonight's battle is between the two greatest drafts. I

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Speaker 1: think that there's no doubt about this two thousand and

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Speaker 1: six and two thousand and nine. Drew Doherty's a big

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine proponent. But I'm going to compare

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Speaker 1: these drafts and you're going to rule who wins the

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Speaker 1: Battle of the Texans drafts. I hope that the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three draft is the very best in franchise history,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see. We have yet to find out because

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Speaker 1: it starts Thursday night, seven o'clock Miller Outdoor Theater and

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Speaker 1: live right here. So we're really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: But you tell me the Will Levis betting odds. This

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Speaker 1: was like bitcoin about a year ago. This was crazy

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Speaker 1: stuff as what was it a ten times greater chance

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Speaker 1: four thousand and one to four hundred to one that

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Speaker 1: he would be the top pick, not the number two pick,

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Speaker 1: the top pick in the higher draft that was earlier

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Speaker 1: today and that had people buzzing around, not the football

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Speaker 1: office so much, but the business office. And believe me,

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Speaker 1: these are two very different worlds because we have no

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Speaker 1: idea what they're doing behind those walls. But what were

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, Johnny. We've been talking about this

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Speaker 1: a lot. I've been listening to our guys at portrayto

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Speaker 1: six ten. They've been talking about it, and there's some

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Speaker 1: that and I've used this phraseology before as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to games being played.

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Speaker 2: Vegas does know a lot. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Vegas is relying on a lot of people that aren't

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Speaker 3: in Vegas, and people were trying to point to Well,

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Speaker 3: there was a Reddit user who posted something, and that

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Speaker 3: Reddit user said that, well, he's a friend of the

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Speaker 3: family and Will's been telling everybody he's the number one pick,

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Speaker 3: and that's what flipped it. I'm like, Okay, if that's

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Speaker 2: Ashamed of itself. We should be taking that off the board,

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Speaker 3: So if that's where they got it, or that's what

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Speaker 3: they're thinking, then that's that's not right. I think with

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Speaker 3: going off of Pro Day when c J. Stroud was

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, CJ. Stroud' is a favorite. Well, at that point,

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Speaker 3: there were people that fired on Bryce Young that we

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Speaker 2: Seth Paine, and they went and got really good numbers

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Speaker 3: Well, then all of a sudden it changed because well,

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Speaker 3: let's use some logic here, Bryce Young seems to be

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Speaker 3: But it's flipping on what what is what are the

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Speaker 3: somebody's not playing, somebody's been suspended. They know that information

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Speaker 3: There's no there's no concrete aspect to it whatsoever. So

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Speaker 2: Look at that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it means anything. I've been saying it

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Speaker 3: you know what that two point five percent is, then boy,

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Speaker 3: you you've got it right there in front of you.

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Speaker 3: But I think all of it's smoke screen. I think

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Speaker 3: everybody's guessing. I think all this I heard from Oh

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Speaker 1: Well, Vegas Insider as of I don't know about four thirty.

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Speaker 1: I haven't updated it since because I have a print

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Speaker 1: out here. Bryce Young obviously the favorite to go number one,

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Speaker 1: with Will levis number two plus seven hundred. Levis the

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Will Anderson, Johnny Is it one of those three?

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Speaker 1: Will Levis, Tyree Wilson, Will Anderson? Well, the Texans pick

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Speaker 1: one of those three players or is it somebody else?

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Speaker 1: And if it is somebody else, who is it?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So here's one. What if it's two of those players?

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Speaker 3: What what if it's too not at number two? But

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Speaker 3: what if it's two of those players with two and twelve?

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Speaker 3: What if you get Will Levis and Will Anderson, Will Levis,

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Speaker 2: Wow, what if you get what if you get those two? Listen?

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Speaker 3: I've said for you know, people know my feelings about

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Speaker 3: I've talked about this a lot. People will ask me

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Speaker 3: put a caveat yes. I like this guy in round two.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would feel great about Will

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Speaker 3: down or it's Will Anderson, Tyree Wilson's that's my gut. Now,

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Speaker 3: there have not been many draft day trades in the

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Speaker 3: top ten over the last how many ever years?

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Speaker 1: Four years, Johnny, I'll give you the numbers. Two trades

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Speaker 1: not a lot. And they were both around ten to

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Speaker 1: as far as a during the draft trade and I

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Speaker 3: Well, you need to tell that and challenge him and say, Nick,

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Speaker 3: these are the stats. I don't know if you know it,

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Speaker 3: but this just hasn't been done. But you could be

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Speaker 3: the first be the first trade down. Now the question becomes,

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Speaker 3: some of that has to do with how much do

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Speaker 3: you believe in the quarterbacks in particular in this draft?

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Speaker 3: How much do you do you really honestly believe in them?

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Speaker 3: And are you like me in that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to get cute, but if he's

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm one of those that gets caught in semantics

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Speaker 3: don't you know. If I'm gonna I like will Levis, well,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that I have to take him at two.

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Speaker 3: that might be at twelve. So I think trade down

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Speaker 3: Because if Bryce is on the board at two, if

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Speaker 3: my guess, my hope, my everything is that Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: You know, the Saints weren't thinking about taking Reggie Bush,

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Speaker 3: So listen the Panthers, Scott Fitter or Frank Wright talk today.

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Speaker 3: trade down, get extra picks, trade down to spy where

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't want come up for a quarterback. The Vikings.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings would be a good one. Vikings want to

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Speaker 3: so maybe you're picking at I don't know, seven and

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Speaker 3: more for what you want to do, and you get,

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Speaker 3: as you'd like to say, some draft land yap that

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Speaker 3: you can use for other picks, higher picks, more picks,

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Speaker 3: whatever you want it to be. So I think trade down.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be disappointed with that. I don't

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Speaker 3: to get this thing done with. Yeah, I mean you could,

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Speaker 3: you could probably tell me that you know Barack Obamas

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Speaker 2: I just I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know what it is. Get the

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Speaker 3: And I think Carter does that, but I think it

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Speaker 3: The higher ceiling of Wilson will be what attracts teams

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Speaker 1: What do you think here? Do they go five or

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Speaker 3: I think it ends up being five. I think five

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Speaker 2: So one in five.

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Speaker 3: Then number twenty five is Anthony Richardson, Number thirty six

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Speaker 2: Let's do this because we did.

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Speaker 1: Mention Aaron Rodgers last night, but I wanted to throw

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Speaker 3: You said it, Okay, I think the thing the difference

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Speaker 3: is Cincinnati's offense. Yeah, at least the passing game for sure.

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Speaker 3: Now we don't know what happens with Joe Mixon because

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Speaker 3: there's been some talk about the trade. There's been some

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Speaker 3: off the field issues, so there's there's not a definitive answer.

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Speaker 2: There on Joe Mixon. So the running game, they need

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Speaker 2: some help in the running game.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we've seen running backs, like last year

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Speaker 3: we saw Damien step in fourth Rownder Boom stepped in,

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Speaker 3: started game one and started up until he was injured.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bengals end up being the tougher out

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Speaker 3: And I've never been in that stadium when it's rocking,

444
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Speaker 3: but that Monday night game at twenty fifteen, it was

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Speaker 3: rocking pretty hard. That that was a tough environment to

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Speaker 3: go into. The Jets environment can be I mean that

447
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen kind of same thing. Yeah, we weren't a

448
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Speaker 3: great team. That environment on Saturday afternoon was awesome. So

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Speaker 3: now with Rogers, I think both of them are gonna

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Speaker 3: be equally tough. But you're right, I think they are

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Speaker 3: one and two. I think Bengals won, Jets two. And

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Speaker 3: then the next one I think ends up being the Ravens. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're going to Baltimore and what's our what's the take?

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Speaker 3: What's our overall record? And going to Baltimore and winning

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Speaker 3: zero zero That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, and scene yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think it's it's those three. I might even

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Speaker 3: put the Ravens in front of the Jets. I kind

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Speaker 3: of want to wait to see because look last year, Now,

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson wasn't good all year, but we called Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson in the Broncos early. And that was one thing

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Speaker 3: that I said right from jump, like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have their stuff together in week two. We

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Speaker 3: had every opportunity to beat them, and we just could

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Speaker 3: move the ball offensively. And maybe that's the case with Rogers.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be an offense he's familiar with, he knows it.

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Speaker 3: He's got Hacket there, so he's gonna have some familiarity

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Speaker 3: with it. That said, if they're not hitting on all cylinders,

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Speaker 3: you catch them early in a year, you catch them

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Speaker 3: in September or October up there, and they're not kind

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Speaker 3: of on paid on the same page to one another,

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Speaker 3: maybe you maybe you can catch them. You know a

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Speaker 3: little combination bang bang, and all of a sudden you

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Speaker 3: got him in the fourth quarter. You just have to

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Speaker 3: sloat on Aaron Rodgers. And that's not been something that

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Speaker 3: Texans have done other than what they were able to

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Speaker 3: do in two thousand and eight. But twelve, sixteen, twenty,

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Speaker 3: those three games, Aaron Rodgers changed the game every which

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Speaker 3: way he could and You'll probably do that again with

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Speaker 3: the New York Jets. Just hope maybe you catch them

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Speaker 3: early in the year where they're not quite in sync.

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Speaker 3: But I think that Bengals game, no matter when you play,

482
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Speaker 3: you play them early, they're already on it. You play

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Speaker 3: them late, they will have that many games ye sink

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Speaker 3: with one another. I think I bet Bengals game. Oh man, wow, Texans,

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Speaker 3: so for the first time, is gonna be cool? Texans

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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow live is gonna be cool?

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Speaker 1: Houston owns the Bengals in Cincinnati. Johnny, Well, we'll say

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Speaker 1: about this. I mean, I'd love to now, speaking of

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Speaker 1: the road, how about this for an or derv statistic

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Speaker 1: for a Tuesday. The Texans are five and one in

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Speaker 1: road games in the division in the last two years.

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Speaker 1: You and I were talking about this off air earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Five and one in the AFC South on the road

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. How does

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Speaker 1: that taste, folks?

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Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, how do you It makes no sense

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Speaker 3: in some in some capacity, it makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: I know because the one loss was at.

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis in twenty one, and you know it was Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor kind of running wild. And but the Texas were

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Speaker 3: in that game. They were, they were were we were

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Speaker 3: down a touchdown and had the ball in the third quarter, kind.

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Speaker 2: Of controlling the game.

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Speaker 3: Started control the game that Davis through interception the letard

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Speaker 3: and well everything changed at that point.

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Speaker 2: But five and one, how about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Five and one on the road to the division the

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Speaker 3: last two years division with seven wins. Seven wins the

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Speaker 3: last two years, five and those seven have been division

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Speaker 3: games on the road. Those If you ask anybody, anybody

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, what do they tell you, What's what's

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Speaker 3: the most difficult game to play?

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Speaker 2: Division game on the road? Yeah, five and one? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Uh And speaking of crazy division records, two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: the Texans had their first ever winning season at nine

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Speaker 1: and seven. Yet we're one and five in the AFC

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Speaker 1: South that year.

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Speaker 2: Weird.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of that year, that was a year of

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Speaker 1: a very good draft class and battle of the Texans

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Speaker 1: drafts oh nine versus six. That's coming up along with

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Speaker 1: the need meter of position groups heading into the draft,

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Speaker 1: which begins Thursday night at seven. In case you forgot,

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Speaker 1: it's live right here and at Miller Outdoor Theater. Go

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Speaker 1: check it out, stay with US Texans Radio, keeping you

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Speaker 1: company on the drive home or wherever you are headed.

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Speaker 1: And this time on Thursday night, you will be headed

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Speaker 1: to Miller Outdoor Theater or they're already to take in

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Speaker 1: the draft at the Texans Draft Party. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be great and we'll be live for that on site

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Speaker 1: and Friday night and Saturday night as well. Our Texans

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Speaker 1: Draft TV special is Sunday night at eleven on ABC thirteen.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a special Texans three sixties Saturday Night, big

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Speaker 1: feature on Malik Collins, who has a gym in Phoenix

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Speaker 1: and he works with Parkinson patients there. It's a feature

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Speaker 1: that's already up on YouTube, but we're gonna add to

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Speaker 1: it for Texans three sixty Saturday Night at eleven. Boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you a lot of information here, folks, but

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Speaker 1: I know you want it and you want this Battle

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Speaker 1: of the Texans drafts, Johnny, Are you ready? One of

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00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: the best drafts in Texans history, widely held, believe that

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Speaker 1: it's six and nine. I'm gonna give you nine first

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people forget about this one and

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Speaker 1: talking about this very subject.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready, my friend, let's go.

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Speaker 1: First round pick Brian Cushing, leading tackler in the history

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. Second round pick Connor Barwin outstanding while

549
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Speaker 1: he was here, rushing the passer. Antwin Caldwell in the

550
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: third round didn't really turn out the way we wanted

551
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Speaker 1: it to. His career as a third round pick as

552
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Speaker 1: a guard. Glover Quinn though in the fourth round super

553
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Speaker 1: strong pick. Started out as a corner, went to safety,

554
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Speaker 1: went to Detroit in great years there, eventually made a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Anthony Hill also in the fourth round. He's

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Speaker 1: still around as a Texans legend, member of that community

557
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: and a great member of our Houston community. James Casey

558
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, tight end quarterback out of Rice, Bryce

559
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Speaker 1: McCain defensive back corner nickel and Troy Nolan who did

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Speaker 1: some things to this team. He played a little bit

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Speaker 1: Troy did. As a seventh round pick. Bryce in the

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Speaker 1: sixth round kind of got the career off to a

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Speaker 1: slow ish start in twenty ten. He was inactive down

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Speaker 1: the stretch of that season, but man in twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: when Wade Phillips got here, Bryce McCain just solidified himself

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Speaker 1: and had a real nice career. I think he played

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Speaker 1: about a decade in the NFL. All right, a quick

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Speaker 1: review of that class, Johnny, that's pretty good. Cushing, Barwin, Quinn,

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Speaker 1: Casey McCain. Those are the bright spots, the brightest spots

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Speaker 1: of that draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a shame that Connor the first couple

572
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Speaker 2: of years. What do you got?

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Speaker 3: I think you got what banged up in nine and

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Speaker 3: then his foot turned sideways in twenty ten. Yep, that

575
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Speaker 3: in twenty eleven you really started seeing the real Connor.

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Speaker 3: Bar when you're like, yo, wow, holy smokes, this guy

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Speaker 3: can this guy could really play. And if you've gotten

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Speaker 3: that at two thousand and nine and you had that

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Speaker 3: for nine ten, I mean obviously to ten defense was

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Speaker 3: just you know, not great, No, not at all. But

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Speaker 3: maybe it was not great because it missed guys like Connor, Barwin, Glover,

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Speaker 3: Quinn was maybe out of position. But if you look

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Speaker 3: at this and say, okay, best pick, you know, look,

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Speaker 3: Cushing was, he was a great pick at fifteen, tremendous

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Speaker 3: pick at fifteen. The best pick is Glover Quinn in

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Speaker 3: the fourth round. And I remember seeing him the first

587
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Speaker 3: time and I'm like, man, I know he played corner,

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00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: I know he played safety. I'd like to see him

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Speaker 3: play safety and see how that goes well. They tried

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Speaker 3: him a corner first, which I think that's probably the

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00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: logical thing to do. Try guy corner first and then

592
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: move the safety, and man, he really found his niche.

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Speaker 2: But he even went to a different level.

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Speaker 3: We went to Detroit, and I think that's you know,

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Speaker 3: that's the that's the that's the one thing I wish

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00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: they could have could have kept to him, And if

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00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 3: they keep him, then maybe the Ed Reid thing doesn't happen.

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00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: Who knows what the Ed Reid situation had an impact

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Speaker 3: of the twenty thirteen team. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 3: would have loved to have seen Glover Quinn alongside Kareem

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Speaker 3: Jackson at safety from like twenty third, twenty twelve, twenty

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Speaker 3: thirteen on like realize, look, Kareem played very well corner,

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Speaker 3: but there was a point in fifteen or sixty where

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Speaker 3: I'm like, just move Kareem to safety and let him

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Speaker 3: play there, because.

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Speaker 2: He could be a superstar.

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Speaker 3: And if you'd have had Kareem next to Glover at safety,

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00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: that would have been not even close to the best

609
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Speaker 3: safety combination you've ever had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that would have been phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: The only other one that really gets close is you

612
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Speaker 3: had Tyron and you had Justin Reid in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: But I think Glover Quinn is the guy in this

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Speaker 3: James Casey. You get him in the fifth round and

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Speaker 3: all that he was able to do is fantastic. Bryce

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Speaker 3: mcain I remember when that pick happened. I remember thinking, Man,

617
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Speaker 3: I like this now. It didn't pan out early, but

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Speaker 3: then when Wade came along and he was able to

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Speaker 3: come in and play Nickel, That's when I felt like

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Speaker 3: this defense, with obviously some additions, Bryce mccainn gave them

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Speaker 3: the addition of covering a player that they couldn't with

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Speaker 3: Jjo and Cream on the outside, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: they had that before that. So I think there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of great value in this. I would love

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00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: to have seen Barbin stay healthy and Glover stay here

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Speaker 3: for his entire career.

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Speaker 1: Right in this battle of the Texans draft classes. Are

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Speaker 1: we allowed to put undrafted free agents? Because each of

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Speaker 1: these classes oh nine, oh six have very significant undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agents that made big contributions, particularly in nine.

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Speaker 2: I say you're allowed to do it. Do it.

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Speaker 1: Arian Foster and oh nine, huge practice squad, last two

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Speaker 1: games of the season, plays running back, doesn't start against

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Speaker 1: Miami in Week sixteen, but has a really good game,

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Speaker 1: and in Week seventeen against the Patriots coming out party.

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Speaker 1: Yet they still drafted Ben Tit in the second round

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Speaker 1: of the twenty ten draft because they wanted insurance. They

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Speaker 1: weren't sure what they had, and they were sure of

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Speaker 1: what they had once he went for two thirty one

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Speaker 1: against the Colts on opening Day in twenty ten. All right,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, are you ready? Two thousand and

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Speaker 1: six versus two thousand and nine. And this has come

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Speaker 1: up a lot in conversations I've had with people lately,

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Speaker 1: because Mario Williams was the biggest surprise ever in Texans

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Speaker 1: draft history other than Watson. I think that's second. Actually

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Speaker 1: Watson the trade up to get him in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but Williams, everyone just thought and knew it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be Reggie Busch going in Friday night before the draft,

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Speaker 1: Marios signed. Uh, because they decide now they're gonna move

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Speaker 1: off Reggie Busch, We're gonna sign Mario Williams. We had

651
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Speaker 1: the number one pick, we could sign whoever we want,

652
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: and back then that was before the slutting, so if

653
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Speaker 1: you came up with a deal, you could make it.

654
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Speaker 1: As the number one pick was locked and loaded heading

655
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Speaker 1: into Saturday, draft fans at the party the next day

656
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Speaker 1: at RG Stadium did not approve, but it turned out

657
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: to be the right decision. Mario Williams number one overall,

658
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: then pick thirty three, Damiko Ryans, who's now the head

659
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: coach of the team, followed by charl Spencer who would have,

660
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: could have, should have had a great career, but injuries

661
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: derailed him. But then Eric Winston, stalwarts starter at right tackle,

662
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: Owen Daniels best tight end of the history of the franchise,

663
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Wally Lundy who did a few things early, and then

664
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: David Anderson, seventh round pick, good receiver for this team,

665
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: got a second contract and also undrafted free agent Mike

666
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Brizell became a nice starter at guard on what is

667
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: still considered I would say, the best offensive line of

668
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: the history of the team, as it really matured in

669
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: the late o's early teens.

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00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: Here's one question I had as I look at they

671
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: had five picks in the top ninety eight in that draft.

672
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: Five in the top ninety eight.

673
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: Of those five, the only one that was not that

674
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: didn't succeed didn't succeed because of an injury.

675
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, charl Spencer in force.

676
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he was on his way to being that guy,

677
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: but in an injury, he could never get back from it.

678
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: If Spencer stays healthy, this is by far the best

679
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: draft class in history to get Mario, Demico, Spencer, Winston,

680
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: Owen Daniels that in those five picks, I mean, that's

681
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: maximizing five picks in the top ninety eight. But Spencer

682
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: wasn't able to stay healthy. They moved to Miko in

683
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: what twelve, twenty twelve, Yep, because of salary cap reasons, Yep,

684
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: androw and Mario got to the point where he just

685
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: took a lot of money to go to Buffalo and

686
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: he had a couple of Pro Bowl years up there.

687
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: Now he had Pro Bowl years here in the years

688
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: that he was in Houston. I felt like he was good,

689
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: not great when he went to Buffalo. I think he

690
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: probably took his game up a little bit, but it

691
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't think it ever really got to the stage

692
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: of Mario Williams.

693
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: I think it was. Yeah, Mario Williams a good player,

694
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: He's a good player.

695
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: He was the right pick, and it obviously makes you

696
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 3: think about what you know could happen with these picks

697
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: coming up on Thursday night.

698
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what you got out.

699
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: Of Mario, Demiko, Winston Owen before they moved on to

700
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: different teams was incredible.

701
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean it was outstanding.

702
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: And like you said, don't forget David Anderson, and he

703
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: obviously is one of my one of my my favorites,

704
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: if not my favorite.

705
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: He's been incredible.

706
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: He was important in my career for a long time,

707
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: and he was that slot receiver that could come in

708
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: and get and do things that maybe other guys couldn't.

709
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: And then you added Mike Brizel. When you add in

710
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: the undrafted free.

711
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: Agents, it looks like nine on the faces Like man

712
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: eh Fuster's arguably the best player in that group.

713
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: But I think the volume of what you got in

714
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: this draft.

715
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, between those four in the top, you know, five

716
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: plus David Anderson plus Brizel, I probably would give six

717
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: a little a little bit of a lean then I

718
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: would the others. If one of those guys Spencer, if

719
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: either Spencer could have stayed healthy or got didn't get hurt,

720
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: I should say I think it would be a slam dunk,

721
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: no doubter.

722
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a slam dunk, no no doubt.

723
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: And or if that didn't happen, if Mario would have

724
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: signed to stay in Houston, and all of a sudden,

725
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 3: you now have Mario game ascending playing opposite JJ Watt,

726
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 3: whose game obviously was ascending.

727
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: Holy smokes, what that could have been.

728
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: I think if you had one of those two things happened,

729
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: I would say slam dunk.

730
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: O six.

731
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna go with six because I just think

732
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: the four of the top five, there was just too

733
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: much great play put on the field amongst those guys.

734
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: Then you got out of nine, it was good in

735
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: O nine, Cushing excellent. But I don't know if you

736
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: got the same amount of value throughout as you did

737
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: from these guys in this two thousand and six draft.

738
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: Okay, honorable mention, and they would like a word. The

739
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: draft class of twenty eleven because JJ Watt goes pick

740
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: eleven in that draft we all remember, followed by Brooks

741
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: Reid in the second round. This was a huge one

742
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: to two punch in this draft. Now, much of the

743
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: rest of the class did not pan out. The way

744
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: you wanted it to. Brandon Harris Rock, Carmichael Shilock, we

745
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: all remember him. But in the fifth round you picked

746
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: up TJ. Yeats and the legend of TJ. Yeats was born.

747
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: Who won your first playoff game ever, had a few

748
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: other legendary victories for you, and then it's not over.

749
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: Derek Newton is picked in the seventh round, and he

750
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: was a good starter at right tackle and would have

751
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: started for a long time I think if he didn't

752
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: have that double Pateeller injury. So you tell me, is

753
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: this the third best class? I know you don't have

754
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: all of them in front of you, but just on

755
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: the hoof, as you would say, wat Reed Yeats Newton

756
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: is a pretty good class, particularly since you have a

757
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer at the top of the heap. Now

758
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: everyone's wondering right now, well, how is Andre Johnson's class

759
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: not that great? But it did have Andre Johnson and

760
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: Dominic Davis now known as Williams, and that's pretty good

761
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: right there. But that's about it from that class that

762
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: we have to get into. Let's see Dave Ragon.

763
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: I love Dave.

764
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: You know that he's the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. Drew Henson.

765
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's a story unto itself. And that's

766
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: all I'll go with that class for now.

767
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: You know, I like to compare things to food. When

768
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about twenty eleven, I feel like the entree

769
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: is a ninety six ounce Porterhouse day age just butteryvel

770
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: was just like, oh, but I think the myth there was,

771
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: you know, the the sides of Brandon Harris and Rashad Carmichael. Now,

772
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: I know you picked one at sixty one and one

773
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: twenty seven in the second and fourth round, but you

774
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: really needed you needed defensive back help in twenty eleven. Now,

775
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: luckily you were able to get Jonathan Joseph. You were

776
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 3: able to do that, so it really, I don't say

777
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: mitigated what those two didn't do, but you really needed

778
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 3: to get something out of your second round picks.

779
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: And Brooks. Brooks at forty two is very very that's

780
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: King that Deter King gave him Player of the Year prediction.

781
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, but Brooks is like, if

782
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: what is the big steak? Brooks is at least lobster

783
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: mac and cheese on the side, but the other sides

784
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe the bread wasn't so good and

785
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So it just didn't work out

786
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: the way you went. Derek Newton's a terrific dessert in

787
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: the seventh round. The dessert was good, but you know

788
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: the other sides. Maybe the salad wasn't so hot, but

789
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: the steak was really good.

790
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: It's exactly the way I would look at twenty eleven. Now,

791
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: I don't know who was undrafted in twenty eleven. AJ

792
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: Boyer was thirteen, right he was? I think he was

793
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: thirteen if I remember correctly, maybe it was twelve, but

794
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he was twenty eleven. That's the other

795
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: under outed free agent I think about. But JJ was

796
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: so damn good. I mean, it's like, hey, how is dinner?

797
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: Listen? That Porterhouse was incredible. I love my sides, I

798
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: love my dessert. You know that.

799
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: But if the Porterhouse is incredible, like you walk out

800
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: of there like yeah, yeah, man, that was fantastic. And

801
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: that's the way I feel about that. With JJ Watt,

802
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: it's third because Watt was so darn good.

803
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: I put three to fourth because with Andre in with.

804
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: Dominic Davis, you again, your entre was excellent, but everything

805
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: else it paled in comparison.

806
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: I'll put it that way.

807
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Boye is thirteen, by the way. And let's get into

808
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: the needs, the needs heading into the draft. The need meter,

809
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: Johnny's gonna read the numbers of the various position groups.

810
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: Where will quarterback come in in the need meter? Don't know,

811
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: we'll find out. It's Texans Radio. We promised it. You're

812
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna get it, the Texans need meter at the various

813
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: position groups. I'm gonna save quarterback because hey, we're doing

814
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: food analogies before. We're not gonna eat the main course

815
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: right now, are we, Johnny. Let's start off in the

816
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: defensive backfield. You give me one to ten. One you

817
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: need well, no, no, let's go one. You don't need

818
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: this much. Ten you desperately need it. Where would you

819
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: put the defensive back class, Well, not the class, but

820
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: the position group. Guys are on the field now working

821
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: out and stuff in These offseason conditioning program workouts are

822
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: very cool. You know who's in the secondary. You know

823
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: you have Jalen Petrie and Desmond King and Steven Nelson

824
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and all these players. Derek Stingley Junior, who had drafted

825
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: last year, Jimmy Ward. You acquired him, Tavi or Thomas man,

826
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we're loaded in the defensive backfield.

827
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: What's the number? Well, on my draft guide I just did.

828
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: I did low, mid and high, okay, and I in

829
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: the second aary, I have them both at a mid.

830
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: So probably six and a half seven as a priority level.

831
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: And basically with safety, I think, you know, adding Ward,

832
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: I think Jimmy is great, you know, but I do

833
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: think they need some depth back there.

834
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a great safety class. So

835
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 2: I think it's probably a six and a half seven.

836
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: If you find the right safety there, maybe on day early,

837
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: on day three, maybe it's something you can do because

838
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna help you on special teams too. But I

839
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: got like six and a half seven corners the same

840
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: same thing, well not same thing, it's exact opposite.

841
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: The corner classes really.

842
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Good, so I think you can get a really good

843
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: corner on day three to draft. So I got this

844
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: like six and a half seven. They're kind of both

845
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: the same. Jimmy Warren edition really helps safety. Having Nelson

846
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: and Stanley back really helped corner. But I still think

847
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: that a young long corner could be found in this

848
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: draft on day three.

849
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: All right, linebackers, you have the Christians, Harrison Kirksey. You

850
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: have Denzel Perriman who you just signed, Garrett Wallow, Corey Littleton,

851
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: you signed him, Jake Hanson, Blake Cashman linebacker group, Johnny,

852
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: what's the need meter telling you about this?

853
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: Well, Denzel Peraman's addition and keeping Christian Kirksey. I've got

854
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: it as mid, but I would probably say that's a

855
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: lower in the mid section, probably five five and a half.

856
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't This linebacker class has got some players in

857
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: it there are really interesting, but they're different, they're kind

858
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: of unique. One of my favorites is Marte Mapu from

859
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: Sacramento State. He's kind of a linebacker safety hybrid that

860
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: could be kind of interesting in how Demiko's defense could

861
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: use him.

862
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't think. I think this is

863
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 2: probably about a five.

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Speaker 3: I think with Perriman, Littleton, Keeping Kirksey, I think the

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Speaker 3: linebacker depth is pretty good. It could use a Day

866
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Speaker 3: three guy. I don't know if they do something early,

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Speaker 3: but I think that's the way it would go.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Need meter for the DL you got Buoker, Collins, Grenard, Harris, Heinish, Hughes,

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Speaker 1: Roy Lopez, you got Odele, you have Rankins, Ridgeway who

871
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: has signed you just signed Rankins and Ridgeway. My gosh,

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00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: this is great, over three hundred pounds each. Derek Rivers

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Speaker 1: stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Stalwarts sneaky hot signing. We talked about him earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week. What are you thinking here in the

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Speaker 1: d L. What's the need meter telling you?

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Speaker 3: On the interior D line, I have mid to low,

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Speaker 3: so probably like four four and a half. I think

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00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: on the edge it's a nine nine to nine and

881
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: a half. We just haven't been able to count on

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00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 3: John's health. Jerry's older Obo left. They added Chase Winovich,

883
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: but he's played a lot since twenty one, so I

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00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: think the edge is probably a nine to nine and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 2: I think the interior deal is probably a four and

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Speaker 2: a half or five.

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Speaker 3: If they get the right guy, maybe, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know if they'll get that right guy, the right guy

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00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: who jailing card. I don't thinking are take him. So

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00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: at that point, maybe day three they can find some beef.

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00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: But adding Rankins at Ridgeway, I think an stalworth. I

893
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: think adding those three guys to what you had last year,

894
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: I don't say it's enough, but for now, with other priorities.

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Speaker 3: I think it's probably four and a half to five.

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Speaker 3: But edge is hot.

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Speaker 1: We're running out of show, so we're gonna move quickly.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 1: I won't name all the old linemen, but you know

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00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: who they are, with Green and Howard and of course Laramie.

901
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: What do you think in here? Need meeter the od

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00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: line heading into the draft?

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Speaker 3: Non center, it's about a three. Center is a nine

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Speaker 3: and a half ten. Okay, gotta have a center. Michael

905
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: Dieter comes in, that'll be helpful and let he and

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00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: Scott can compete. But I think there are four centers

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00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: in this draft I like, and I think one of them.

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00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: It's a must to get running back. It's kind of

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: the mid range.

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Speaker 3: I still would like to see someone a young young

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00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: legs can always impact your group.

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Speaker 2: So running back to me is probably five and a

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00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: half six receiver, that's how that's.

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Speaker 3: That's eight and a half nine, have good depth, but

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00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: I still think you need another ball carrying weapons, So

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00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: to me, that's eight and.

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Speaker 2: A half nine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tight end with.

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Speaker 3: The addition of Schultz, I feel like in the past,

920
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: catching range, you know in about a four and a

921
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Speaker 3: half five. But somebody come up and block and kind

922
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Speaker 3: of do both. Probably seven to seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: The right tight end comes open and available, do it.

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Speaker 1: And here it is Quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six ten.

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Speaker 1: With all due respect to who's here, with all due

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Speaker 1: respect folks.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't have to be the draft. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we talked about it last night. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be the draft. Get get the best players you can

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Speaker 3: in the draft, and then see you know where the

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Speaker 3: bodies are laid out. Attack it at that point and

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Speaker 3: maybe it's a Trey Lance, maybe it's Mac Jones, maybe

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Speaker 3: it's somebody else, but maybe go in that direction. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's not the draft, but you gotta find somebody at

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Speaker 3: the quarterback position to come and compete with Davis and

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Speaker 3: Case and EJ.

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Speaker 1: All right, get Johnny's Draft guide at football Takeover dot com.

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Speaker 1: Read all the at Houston Texans dot com and the

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Speaker 1: Texans app. This show will be up in podcast forms

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