1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. Yes, it still stings the day after. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: On today's show, a first, we're talking about a loss 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: eight weeks into the season and the Cardinals suffered their 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: first defeats of the year. Look, losses are going to happen, 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: we know that, but it's how the loss happened this 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: close to remaining undefeated. It's Cardinals Cover two episode for 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: eighty seven, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Acy Cardinals dot com, 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts, Going for Hopkins one tend to catch it 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: So my struggle. Besides the quick turnaround, the Cardinals did 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: not play a good game on either side of the ball, 15 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: not to the standard that we and they have been 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: used to. Yet fifteen seconds left, five yards away from winning. 17 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: This close as I put my two fingers oh so 18 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: close together, MJ to still being able to say, you 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: are the only undefeated team in the National Football League. 20 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: And I'll go furthermore. When you're minus three in the 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: turnover department, I mean the history status, you don't have 22 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: a good chance to win. Yeah, I mean, as bad 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: as things look throughout the course of the game, they 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: still had an opportunity to win. And that's what's going 25 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to stick in their car. You know, it stings, it's 26 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: it's it's disappointing, but you know, it's a long season, 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: and we knew that they weren't going to go unbeaten. 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: They went against a good team. Obviously, we talked about 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback all week and yeah, they may not have 30 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: all their weapons, but in Craig, just before we start 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: getting into some of the particulars, this could be the 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: blueprint where teams are going to use against the Cardinals 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: where you've got Aaron Rodgers. Yes, they don't have their 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: top three receivers, but we talked about Aaron Jones and 35 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: a J. Dillon and keep Kylin Murray on the sidelines. 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, teams were going for fourth down more. I 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: think that's analytics, but also to keep minded sidelines when 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: you have that time of possession and plays. It was 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: overwhelming and I thought the defense, you know, how much 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: can they do? I mean, Chandler Jones, you know, maybe 41 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: because of COVID, so I'll get the benefit of the doubt. 42 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: But anyways, we're get in some of the particulars. But yeah, 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: when you turn the ball over three times and you've 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: still got a chance to win, and this team has 45 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: been resilient. But I definitely think the break comes at 46 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: a great time because they got to heal up. Let 47 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: me ask you this on that final Packers drive, the 48 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: ups and downs, the emotion of that drive, as far 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: as taking seven minutes off the clock. You thought that 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: they had scored and that would have put the Cardinals 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: down ten. Yet there's that fourth down stop. Huge props 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: to Devon Kannard for batting that ball down as Aaron 53 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers try to throw it for a touchdown on fourth down. 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: But it's that old adage, you know, is it better 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: to lose? If you're going to lose a game, how 56 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: do you want to feel would have been better? Would 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: we feel better about ourselves and how things went on 58 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: Thursday Night football? If that Aaron Jones touchdown had been good. 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: It was a touchdown. He crossed the goal line and now, 60 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're down ten with you know, 61 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: three and a half minutes to go, and you know 62 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: not great odds. Or is it better to be in 63 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: that position and ride that roller coaster? You get the 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: fourth down, stop a huge third and ten converted by 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: a J. Green. You're marching for a ninety nine yard 66 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: go ahead score, win the ball game eight. No yet, 67 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: the crushing way that just you said, it's such deflating. 68 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: And that's that's my struggle here again, because you're right, 69 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: when you're minus three in turnovers, you have no business 70 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: winning that football game. Zero. Yet I can't get that 71 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: play out of my head. It's the fifty fifth of 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: fifty five offensive plays the Cardinals ran and the fact 73 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: that there was miscommunication between quarterback and wide receiver. There 74 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: has to be more than that. I don't know if 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: we'll ever find out between Kyler Murray and AJ Green, 76 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: but it just the way that game ended, it's it 77 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: bothers me, and it's still gonna bother me. I take 78 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: the ladder, you have a chance to win, you go 79 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: down by ten all of a sudden, you know, Packers 80 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: would have start celebrating and Cardinals would have been in 81 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, four minute offense and you know, and they 82 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: were going to hit me Murray the fact that they 83 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: had the ball in their hands and a chance to win, 84 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: and I'm glad they didn't go for a field goal 85 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: because these guys that are taking them beating, I mean, 86 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: that was a physical game considered they just played a 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: few days ago. All right. So it's second in goal, 88 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds left. They can't run the ball because they're 89 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: out of timeouts. I mean, yeah you can, you can try, 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a read option, but the idea was 91 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: you'd have a couple plays here. The problem I have 92 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: is Aj Green needs to turn around. That's that's my 93 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: issue right there. Um, people think he was blocking. It's no, 94 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: that was a back shoulder fade call. That they do. 95 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: They work on that in practice every day. So and 96 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: again Aj Green earlier in that drive when he caught 97 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: the ball, he just went down like he could have 98 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: had all he could have got a couple more yards. Um. 99 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that that that was a back shoulder 100 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: fade call. And you have to come back to the ball. 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: You have to turn just turn around. That's you're not 102 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: going to get that call. And there's I mean, you 103 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: can see that Rossil Douglas did have his arms on him. 104 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: But and I appreciate the officials not making that call 105 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: at that point, I really do, because let him play. 106 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: That's that's where I'm at at that point. Let let 107 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: the players aside the outcome. But Aj Green's a veteran guy. 108 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: And now if that was roundel Moore rookie mistake, obviously 109 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: he didn't play well. But that's Aj Green, you know, 110 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: and the fact that he has played in playoff games 111 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: and that was a playoff atmosphere last night at State 112 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium, that I mean, go ahead. Kingsbury called it 113 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: a safe throw and it was an audible a check 114 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, you break the huddle. Kyler 115 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Murray saw zero coverage one on one on the outside, 116 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: and Aj Green against rolsil Douglas. Absolutely you're gonna go 117 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: that direction ten times out of ten. So the play 118 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: was correct. But the miscommunication at the line of scrimmage, 119 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: the Green night hear the check, did not hear, or 120 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the audible did not run the right route, did something different. 121 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: Because you're right, that's fair. All he has to do 122 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: is turn around because he'll have the leverage. He has 123 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: position on the dB and he's bigger, he stronger, and 124 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: the past he would turn around and would have the 125 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: easiest catch of his game last night. That that that's 126 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: me without having seen it play out. But it just 127 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, No, get over it. But it's just 128 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: not happening right now. No, No, And I think that's fair. 129 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Did he did he did he get the chet because 130 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: it was zero coverage? That that is totally fair because 131 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: for somebody out there thinking he was blocking, you're not 132 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: blocking right there. I mean you got to turn around. No, 133 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously the locker rooms not open, 134 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't available, So who knows when we're going to 135 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: get a chance to find out. Cliff talks of them 136 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: media this afternoon, So I mean, but they're you know, 137 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna throw anybody under the bus. I mean, this 138 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: is a team and you went in as a losing team. 139 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: And again but the fact that they had an opportunity 140 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: at the very end ninety four yard drive, I mean, 141 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: it was they put themselves in position to win the game. 142 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: So it's just it's just like I said, it's I 143 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: really enjoyed the atmosphere. We knew Aaron Rodgers. You know, 144 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: early on they didn't have a first town in their 145 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: first two possessions. His numbers weren't great, but yes, the 146 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: game went on, he started to pick apart to defense. 147 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: But the fact that you know Randall Cobb had three 148 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: catches fifteen yards and two touchdowns, it looks like there 149 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: was a little miscommunication between him and Byron Murphy and 150 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. But clearly they need Rodney Hudson 151 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: back and hopefully he is back next week when the 152 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals traveled to San Francisco. But let's get into the 153 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: nuts and bolts again. Final score twenty four twenty one 154 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals lose to the Packers at State Farm Stadium, the 155 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: first prime time game for the Cardinals here in twenty 156 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: twenty one. It is Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday Proud, 157 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. And offensively, as Kyler Murray 158 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: said postgame, quote, we definitely didn't play up to our capabilities. 159 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: End quote. Twenty one points not enough when the standard 160 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: is thirty three hundred and thirty four yards of total offense. 161 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,479 Speaker 1: You know that's fine, but it's the fifty five plays 162 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: seventeen fewer than the Green Bay Packers. And I know 163 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: time of possession certainly is not what it once was, 164 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: because you can have very few minutes of possession and 165 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: still win a ball game. But to your point, the 166 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals had a season low twenty two minutes and twenty 167 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: five seconds of time of possession, fifteen minutes fewer than 168 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. And that goes back to your 169 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: point that Aaron Rodgers and that Packers off offense was 170 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: the best defense against Kyler Murray and the Cardinals offense. Yes, exactly. 171 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: And when you when you look at it, the Cardinals 172 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: were up seven nothing, right, and they until those possessions 173 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: and they had time of possession, but the Cardinals were 174 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: still leading, you know. So it's what you do with 175 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: the ball. But the fact that they held the ball 176 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: that much to keep Kyler Murray on the sidelines and 177 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: to continue to run the football, and they were very 178 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: efficient on third down and fourth down. Cardinals couldn't get 179 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: them off the field. Now they made the big stop. Obviously, 180 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: otherwise the game would have been a ten point game, 181 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: it had been over, but it was again Rogers, it's 182 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: it's it's awesome to watch him in person, it is 183 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: fun if you can take yourself out of the moments 184 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: and just be a fan, regardless of Cardinals or Packers. 185 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: And he is. And I think it was Jordan Hicks 186 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: postgame mentioning that there were several plays maybe and it 187 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a sentence that he gave, but maybe I'm just 188 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: thinking outlawed myself. You know, eighty eighty five percent when 189 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers got to the line of scrimmage, he was checking 190 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: to another play and he was always, it seemed, one 191 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: step ahead of the Cardinals advanced Joseph and the Cardinals 192 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: knew it, and and that and that they knew what 193 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: they were getting themselves into. Because if you have a quarterback, 194 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: and you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, you always 195 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: have a chance, regardless of No Davante Adams, Alan Lazard, 196 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: whomever else they were missing. You know that means nothing. 197 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers he had a great game despite what his 198 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: individual numbers look like. Yeah, and and and the fact 199 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: is that when you when you get to that point 200 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: in the game, um, you know, I was I was 201 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: thinking maybe if if they did have those receivers made, 202 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: they don't try to run the football that much. I 203 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: mean it's it's a balance there. But you got to 204 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: give Matt lafleur and you got to give the uh, 205 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Gray, who was called plays on defense. 206 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Their their whole game plan was the plaster Kyler Murray, 207 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket and then try to eliminate 208 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: the deep ball. And you know, it was interesting. We 209 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: talked about how many weapons this team has and when 210 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins wasn't on the field, it kind of got stalled. 211 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I gave him credit for trying to 212 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: play through it. Clearly he didn't practice what he doesn't 213 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: do a lot of, but he had the hamstring injury. 214 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: But it's interesting besides that big play, I was surprised 215 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: based on all the weapons they have and in addition 216 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to zach Ertz, they weren't able to kind of move 217 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Kingsbury did not sound very 218 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: happy when asked about Hopkins, and it certainly sounds like 219 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Hopkins checked himself into the game there in the second half. 220 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: They wanted, according to Kingsbury, Hopkins off the field to 221 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: rest and understand that there are games in November December. 222 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Think long term, not short term. But that's the competitor 223 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: and DeAndre hop and understanding the offense wasn't moving the football, 224 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: but he was off the field for more than thirty 225 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: minutes of action. ESPN's Josh Wifluss had this in his 226 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: story that during those thirty minutes between that fifty five 227 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: yard catch, it should have been a touchdown, but he 228 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: got called for a face mask. From that point to 229 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: when he returned and the third quarter, twenty two plays, 230 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals ran for just fifty four yards. And that 231 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: says a lot about what Hopkins means to this offense. 232 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Even if he isn't targeted or parts of a particular play, 233 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: just his presence on the field is felt. And without him, 234 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals could not do much of anything between the 235 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: second and third quarter. Yeah, and you had a great 236 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: stat this morning that you shared with me, and we 237 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: advanced put so much emphasis on first and second down, 238 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: and they were averaging, according to your research, four point 239 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: five yards on first. Yeah, the Packers offensively. Now all 240 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's manageable. Right now, you're in second 241 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: and six. Now you know third and two and you 242 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: can do things. And we know, you know, Rogers is 243 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: smart enough to fact that's interesting that he was checking 244 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: out of place. So it was basically a chess match 245 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: between him in advance what the call was, and then 246 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinal set it with Jus because there were a 247 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of times you would see Jordan Hicks put put, 248 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, tap on the defensive lineman getting that gap, 249 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, so you could see that it was a 250 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: chess match. And again, I think we know at this 251 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: point in time, Rogers has has seen everything in the NFL, 252 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: and that's when it comes to his football IQ. The 253 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals lost that chess match. Vans Joseph lost that chess match. 254 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks mentioned post game that the Packers didn't do 255 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: anything that they weren't expecting. They figured they were going 256 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: to get a heavy dose of Aaron Jones and aj 257 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Dillon running the football because they didn't have their offensive weapons, 258 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: and it was port tackling, not getting off your block, 259 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of runs between the tackles. Credit the 260 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Packers offensive line, and you can know what's going to happen, 261 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: but it's up to you as a defense to stop it. 262 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: They weren't able to as far as stopping the run. 263 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: And let's go back to your first key on our 264 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: previous show on Wednesday ahead of that game, make the 265 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Packers one dimensional. That wasn't the case. The Packers were 266 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: able to run the football for one hundred and fifty 267 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: one yards and keep the defense on its toes. Yeah, 268 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: and then you know Aaron Rodgers, you know, he's got 269 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown passes. I mean even their tight 270 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: ends were involved in the offense. I mean, you know, 271 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: even though Mercedes Lewis didn't get his feet down in 272 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: the end zone, but they're tight ends caught our two passes. 273 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, it looks like one may be hurt. But yeah, 274 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: the way I look at it, and I couldn't bree 275 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: more with you, that was the first game where the 276 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: poor tackling led to getting to the second level. And 277 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: we talk about that all the time, you know, gag tackles. 278 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: We talked about Dylan the shows we did just about 279 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: as lower extremities. That guy's powerful. And then we talked 280 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: about Aaron Jones in the passing game. I mean, he's 281 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: he's up there when it comes to receptions, even though 282 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: they do have Davante Adam. So yeah, the tackling was 283 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: not in ques Is that because they have a short week, 284 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: but against for both teams. So I have a hard 285 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: time saying, well, they couldn't have tempo. I mean, I 286 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: thought the Cardinals had a slight advantage once the game starts, 287 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, being the home team, you would think, but again, 288 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: you're going against Aaron Rodgers and you got to give 289 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur. That was a great game plan, and defensively 290 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: they did exactly when they wanted to do with Kyler Murray. Defensively, 291 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: as far as stopping the run, We've talked about it 292 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: a lot, and the Cardinals have been hit or miss 293 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: as far as stopping the run this season. You look 294 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: at Derrick Henry very successful, but Dalvin Cook averaged almost 295 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: six yards to carry, James Robinson almost six yards to carry, 296 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson six and a half yards. Ry. Cardinals were 297 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: able to win those games because they made the opponent 298 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: one dimensional. If you force your opponent to throw the 299 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: football because they're trailing or down multiple scores, then that 300 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: takes away half the playbook. Packers had their entire playbook 301 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: at their disposal because the Cardinals couldn't stop the run. 302 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: And then what you mentioned as far as what the 303 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: Packers were able to do on first down four and 304 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: a half yards a play on first down, all of 305 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a sudden at second down, you can do whatever you want. 306 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: And we can't remember how we got into this conversation 307 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: with Drew Stanton on Cardinal Talk, but we asked about, 308 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: you know, third down and what he thought third and 309 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: manageable is and he mentioned third and six or fewer. 310 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: All right, well, Packers were six or fourteen on third down, 311 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: but thirteen of those fourteen third downs were six or 312 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: fewer yards. They're only third and long. MJ was the 313 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: end of the first half, third and twelve. That's it. 314 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: So it goes back to the defense not winning on 315 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: first down and not stopping the run for that entire 316 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: ball game. And another thing, um, you know, when the 317 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals were winning, they were scoring thirty points and you 318 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: know right now, seventeen against the forty nine ers and 319 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: then twenty one last night. And that's been the biggest difference, 320 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: where if they were able to give up some of 321 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: these long drives, they would be able to counter, and 322 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: they weren't able to counter toe to toe, And that's 323 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: the that's the key, is whether the defense was getting 324 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: gashed and teams who were getting twelve fourteen play drives. 325 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: The Cardinals offense with complimentary football would come back and 326 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: score points. They did not go toe to toe with 327 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: that last night. Now we saw a little of it 328 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: in the second half, but you know, the first half 329 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: and only having the score on their second possession. And 330 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: again you go back to the miss possession. I mean, 331 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense had eight sessions, but minus won because of 332 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: the muff punt. And look, you're gonna turn the ball over, 333 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna have mistakes. But if you're Rondel Moore, if 334 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: there is even the slightest doubt in your mind, you 335 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: know what, maybe I did touch that. You gotta go 336 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: after that football and try to make sure you maintain 337 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: possession even though you'll be backed up on your own end. 338 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: But you gave the Packers first and goal at the 339 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: three yard line. Now, the defense forced the field goal, 340 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: but that's asking a lot of your defense. You have 341 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: to be able to get that ball. He's the only 342 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: guy in the stadium that knew he touched it. Jump 343 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: on the ball. He's the only guy that knew besides 344 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: the replay. Now, I will say in the second half, 345 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did have some nice drives and I thought 346 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: I took a little pressure off the defense because they 347 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: were on the field a ton in the first half, 348 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: I want to say, a ten or eleven maybe a 349 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: twelve play drive, so they were able to kind of 350 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: shorten the game a little bit to where to give 351 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: your defense a break, a breather, I should say. And 352 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: that was maybe not the first, but I know there 353 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: are a couple of possessions where I thought they're getting 354 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: some momentum, they're starting to get a little bit of 355 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: you know, as a play caller, you want to be 356 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: one play ahead, and I thought they were getting that 357 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: by with running the football and then utilizing the play action, 358 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: so that to me, was given the defensive breather. A 359 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: couple of those drives in the second half, well, both 360 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: of those scoring drives that you're alluding to, the twelve 361 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: play eighty one yard James Conner two yard touchdown run, 362 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: eleven play seventy five yard drive James Connor nine yard 363 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: touchdown run. Both of those drives. Yeah, you answered a 364 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: Packers score, but you're trailing by ten points. You score 365 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: to pull to within three, always playing catchup, and it 366 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: almost it almost felt like the offense, when they knew 367 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: their back were against the Wall, they were able to 368 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: ramp things up and play a lot more in rhythm. 369 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: We didn't see that rhythm in the first half offensively. 370 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: I know we had a caller Cardinal talk about, you know, 371 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: a slow start, and I kind of pushed back, like, look, 372 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: they were up seven nothing at the first quarter. But 373 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: it goes back to Cliff Kingsbury last week against the 374 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, where he said he felt disconnected and as 375 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: a play caller he always says, you know, I need 376 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: to call better plays, getting more in rhythm. Well, it's 377 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: play caller or execution. You take your pick. It's not 378 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: one or the other. It's kind of a combination of both. 379 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: But when you get into a rhythm, and I don't 380 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: think that offense got into a rhythm into the second half. 381 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And that's why I give the 382 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: Jerry Gray who was filling in for Joe Wood. He 383 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: did a good job. And the whole idea is that 384 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: they wanted to keep Kylar in the pocket and they 385 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: were going to hit him. And you know, again getting 386 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: into Kyler, he's taking too many hits and that's why 387 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: the Sprake's going to come at a good time. And 388 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: they get back on the practice field. But you know, 389 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: I think Rodney Hudson's trending in the right direction. And 390 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: then you know, we'll see what happens at right guard 391 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: if if if if Max Garcia's dealing in achilles injury 392 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: or temporary. I mean, it's justin Murray ready. I mean, 393 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Josh Jones has given up too many pressures. I mean, 394 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: I trust trush Shan Coogler. I'm sure he's not happy 395 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: what happened last night. But again, this is not going 396 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: to derail their season. You know, they weren't going to 397 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: go unbeaten, and now all of a sudden you have 398 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: to worry about, Oh, they're only beaten unbeaten team in 399 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: the league. Clearly, the NFC is loaded with teams with 400 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: one lost records. We can look at the division leaders 401 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: are probably going to be finished like this, Dallas, Green 402 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: Bay in Tampa, and then if the Cardinals take care 403 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: of their business, they can win the division. So, um, 404 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: you got to win the games you're supposed to. And 405 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: you start looking at the schedule. You know, they go 406 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: they go to San Francisco and then their hosts home 407 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: against Carolina. I anticipate Russell Wilson be back. But you 408 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: got the Lions there, you got the Bears. So you know, 409 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: as you pointed out earlier before show, you finished five 410 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: hundred down the stretch, you're gonna have a good win 411 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: loss record. But you want to be playing your best 412 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: football in the month of December. And that's where you 413 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: have to have a defense that can travel regardless of 414 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: your seat, and you've got to be able to run 415 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: the football. And you know, but Kyler Murray, this has 416 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: happened a couple of years in a row. Though in 417 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: that second half of the season. They got to keep 418 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: him upright. Way to bring me back down to earth 419 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: and calm me down a little bit, MJ. Because Bird Gang, 420 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: you don't want to lose sight of the big picture 421 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: here and the big picture as much as Thursday Nights 422 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: was a punch in the gut. Cardinals are seven and one. 423 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: You're still right there with everyone else. There are five 424 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC that have one loss this season. 425 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Will see what happens over the weekend. But Cardinals, Rams, Packers, Buccaneers, 426 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: and Cowboys. You got two teams in the NFC West 427 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: and the rest of the division winners or leaders. Those 428 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: are your five teams, and the Cardinals are a playoff team. 429 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: You've got nine games left, you go five and four, 430 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: you win twelve ball games, and no one's going to 431 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: say that or think about it or want that to happen, 432 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: because now it's how do you respond? But the Cardinals 433 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: have put themselves in position to where they can sustain 434 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: a loss like Thursday night exactly. Again, it's disappointing, it's stings. 435 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: You want to be unbeaten. But when we look back 436 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: at this, I don't never thought the team would get 437 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: ahead of themselves, but now they got to figure out 438 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, we got we got a competition in the NFC, 439 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: and you have to win the games you're supposed to 440 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: and you can't go on losing streets. You can't lose 441 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: two in a row. And this team is they're gonna 442 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: be motivated. So when we look back at the season, 443 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: maybe not to the other worst thing considering a turn 444 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: the ball over three times, it really didn't play their 445 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: best football. They didn't score like they have, they didn't 446 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: put up the yardage, they didn't convert on third down, 447 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: and they still had a chance to win. So that's 448 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: got to be a little encouraging. I know it's a loss, 449 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: but when we look back, we're not going to say, well, 450 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I'd rather have them take a loss now, then all 451 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden to get to fourteen and ozero, and 452 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: then things start to go sideways, and then they're they're 453 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: catching their tail and teams, which is just you know, 454 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: we know how to prevent Kyler Murray from being the 455 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: dynamic player he is. So when we look back, hopefully 456 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: this is let's get back to the basics. Let's clean 457 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: some things up, and let's go. Let's get rolling again, 458 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: let's start stacking wins. And I think that's the mindset. Well, 459 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: you look, the Cardinals nearly hold out a win and 460 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: a game that they probably didn't deserve to win. About 461 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: week two against the Vikings, they won a game in 462 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: which they got lucky a kick at the end of 463 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: the ball game is missed, and the Cardinals pull out 464 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: a thirty four thirty three wins. So maybe week two, 465 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Week eight, that's a wash. And after eight weeks your 466 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: point and one and you got to feel good about it. 467 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, I understand the day after 468 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel good. Sucks. It sucks now And the 469 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: thing is that, you know, the way they they've earned 470 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: the right. I mean, like I said that they're a 471 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: good team. This is shit and derail people's opinion about 472 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. They faced a really good Packers team. 473 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: The Packers were in the NFC Championship game last year. 474 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: You went against the MVP. Yeah, every team has injuries, 475 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: and I don't want to I don't want to talk 476 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: about injuries because everyone has them. Sometimes it's it's worse 477 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: at certain positions. But you're gonna have to overcome injuries. 478 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: And we always talk about if you're playing late in 479 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: the year, it's because you've been healthy at certain positions. Yes, 480 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: the next man up. You know, people will say, well, 481 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had a third string center there, you think 482 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: he's the third only third guy a string player in 483 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the NFL playing. No, that's not the case. So I'm 484 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: not going to use injuries as an excuse. It's unfortunate. 485 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: But again, I think getting Rodney Hudson back calm things down. 486 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: But I like what you said. They should have lost 487 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: in Week two again, they couldn't control the Minnesota kicker missing, 488 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: and here they had a chance. But at the end 489 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: of the day, liking the Packers were a better team. 490 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Last Night Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner 491 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals lose on Thursday Night Football 492 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: twenty four twenty one. I haven't even bothered to read 493 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: or listen to what the national perspective of the national 494 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: narrative is. I'll be honest with you, Bird Gang, I 495 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: really don't care. I know what this team is capable 496 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: of doing, and that is certainly winning ball games and 497 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: beating quality opponents. Packers. Yes, they were missing some key pieces, 498 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: but that is a quality opponent that you went toe 499 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: to toe with yet did not play your best. All right, Craig. Also, 500 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: the trade deadlines coming up next week, and I don't 501 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are going to be active. I think 502 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: they feel comfortable, unfortunately the situation with j. J. Watt. 503 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: They're hoping to get Corey Peter's back, Richard Lawrence. They 504 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: like their rotation there. I think Josh Morrow is a 505 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: guy that can be a rotation guy. You know, I 506 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a guard out there that not 507 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: a trade Maybe you look at a guy to bring in. 508 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: But this this offensive line, they got to figure out 509 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: that right guard spot, and again we'll see the availability 510 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Garcia Murray and then you know, you know, Josh Jones 511 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: is gonna have to play better. So but that's that 512 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: right now. Again, I don't see them making a trade 513 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: to go out and get a pass rusher or defensive tackle. 514 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: And I mean they're they're up against a cap and 515 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: I know that you can find ways to do that, 516 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: but they feel comfortable my impression talking to people yesterday, 517 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: they feel comfortable with the D line without j J Watt. 518 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Now are they going to miss JJ Watt? Yes, from 519 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint, I'm glad he was on the sidelines 520 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: as an extra coach. He helps those young guys out. 521 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: But the only the only area I would look at 522 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: now is guard. But is that guy on the roster 523 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: or are they just going to try to piecemail this 524 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: until they figure out who's the best option. And I 525 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: think Garca would be the best option now, but I 526 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: just don't know the severity of the achilles. A couple 527 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: of points here. I'm glad you brought it up. Tuesday, 528 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: November second is the NFL trade deadline, And for everyone 529 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: that says yeah, general manager Steve Kime's got to go 530 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: out and find someone to replace JJ Watt. A couple 531 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: of issues to that one. There is no one you 532 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: can find to replace JJ Watt. It's impossible. Two tell 533 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: me who you want, Three tell me how much it's 534 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna cost, and then four tell me what it's going 535 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: to take to get him under the salary cap. Because yeah, 536 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: you can always find money, but it becomes difficult, and 537 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: there are dollars that you have to kind of maneuver 538 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: and massage to order in order to make a trade happen. 539 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: So I'm sure they'll look, but I'll go back to 540 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: let's have Corey Peter's return. He's missed three games now 541 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: because he's been on the reserve COVID nineteen list. Get 542 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence back, he's missed two games because of a 543 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: calf injury. And then maybe Josh Moore will become that 544 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: guy that you add permanently as far as a rotation guy. 545 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: But guys are gonna have to step up. Jordan Phillips 546 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: is gonna have to keep playing well from that inside 547 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: position more and be that guy that the Cardinals went 548 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: out in free agency and signed to a large contract. 549 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Be that guy, be worth play to what you're worth 550 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: or what you're being paid. So for him, for me, 551 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: that's that's number one. As far as that defensive line, 552 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: it's Jordan Phillips needs to be Jordan Phillips. Yes, and 553 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: and listen, he's active, you know, he's he's sticking his 554 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: nose in there. I like the way. I like his size. 555 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: He can deflect Football's Zach Allen's another guy. He's gonna 556 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: get the opportunity he's been in the shadow of JJ Watt. 557 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: Zach Allen's gonna get more playing time. They're gonna get 558 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: that rotation. And Richard Lawrence was playing well until he 559 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: got hurt. So that's the reason. And at the end 560 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: of the day, this is his fantasy football. Steve Kim 561 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: has spoiled Cardinal fans and rightfully so that's his job, 562 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: going out and getting Marcus Gold and when Chandler went down, 563 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: going out and getting zach Ertz. But at the end 564 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: of the day, pretty much this is the guys who 565 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: see on the roster. This is the team you're going 566 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: to see for the rest of the season. I mean, 567 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: you just can't. It's not fantasy football. And people don't 568 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: go go out and get someone well It's not as 569 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: easy as you think, and I don't I understand the 570 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: fan base. They want to win and they feel like, 571 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: but what's behind door number two? There's you mentioned four 572 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: different things that would have to have some effect, and 573 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: they like the guys they have, They really do. That 574 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they won't bring in someone, but I just 575 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: don't see them making a trade now. On the opposite side, 576 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: as far as the offensive line, your questions about Josh Jones. 577 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: You gave up another sack. It happened early in the 578 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: third quarter, in fact, on that opening possession of the 579 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: third quarter, and now you're wondering, all right, is Rodney 580 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: Hudson coming back? When he does come back, what does 581 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: that mean? Is Max Garcia able to slide to guard? 582 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: What's the update on Justin Murray who's been on IR 583 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: what a back issue or is there someone else? That 584 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: was our questions that are being discussed and will continue 585 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: to be discussed over the next several days leading into 586 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: next week and that trip to San Francisco. I do 587 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: want to mention that Sean Harlowe pressed into duty his 588 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: first significant time playing center in game situations. I only 589 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: saw one bad snap and it nearly derailed the entire 590 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: final drive. I only saw one bad snap. What was 591 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: that twelve or thirteen or eighteen yards? It was a 592 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: minus eight, I believe on the fumble, and the Cardinals 593 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: end up getting a first down. Correct? Correct? Yeah, So yeah, 594 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: Now I didn't like the timing of that truly, Yet 595 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: things being magnified later in the ball game. Yeah, I mean, 596 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: it happens in the first quarter, but the timing of that, 597 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: but I, like I said, it wasn't like he was 598 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: getting pushed around, and Kenny Clark is one of the 599 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: better defense and nose tackles in football. Yeah, I just 600 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: st the timing of it and again, and it happens. 601 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Maybe the ball was wet or something like that. I'm 602 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: not given excuses, but if that happens in the first quarter, 603 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. But for the most part, 604 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: I thought he I'll look at the grades and you know, 605 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: with the grain of salt. But for the most part, 606 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: I thought he held he held his own in just 607 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: the timing of that snap. But the key is that 608 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: DI give the first town. Yeah, I went second and 609 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: eighteen and that was the Jase Edmonds twenty two yard 610 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: catch and run all the way down to the greenby eighteen, 611 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: so they were able to overcome that mistake. But it's 612 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: a larger issue as far as that interior of the 613 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: offensive line, and that is the amount of pressure up 614 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: the middle. And how many times we've seen Kyle the 615 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: Murray have to scramble out of the pocket, back pedal, 616 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: turn his back and rotates and roll left or right 617 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: because he's getting flushed up the middle, not from the outside, 618 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: but up the middle. And a lot of that is 619 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: because Rodney Hudson hasn't been in the ball game. So 620 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: it's Mac Scarca, it's John Harlow, it's Josh Jones, it's 621 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: everyone that we You know, when you have all Rodney Hudson, 622 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you can form that upside 623 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: down you. We haven't seen that in the last couple 624 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: of weeks. And according to Kylin Murray m he thinks 625 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: the forty Niners have the best defensive front and football 626 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't it wasn't, you know, he didn't mention the 627 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: Rams and we know they got outside pass rushers. Fred 628 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: Warner's a guy that can come up to the middle. 629 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: Eric Conners said, I mean, yeah, that's I mean in Shanahan. 630 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: You know, I gotta assume they're gonna roll with Garoppolo. 631 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, maybe they got some players back, but yeah, 632 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: I mean I can see, you know when it comes 633 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: to to meck O'Ryan's their defensive coordinator, They're going to 634 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: try to come up with the middle, and then you 635 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: got to protect the edges. Again, we need the five 636 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: star players or play like five star players. And that's 637 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. I mean, I liked that what Knard did. 638 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: I like what Golden's doing. Dennis Garda come in there 639 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: and got a pressure. Um. You know, he's a guy 640 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: that plays with his hair on fire. But in Buddha Baker, 641 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: it's one play. Miscommunication should be happening at this point 642 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: in the season, but it does happen. They're human, they're 643 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: not robots. But they neither five star players or start 644 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: playing like it. Let's bottom line it here on Cardinals 645 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 646 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes it stays twenty four twenty one. Losing to the 647 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers first loss of the season, and the 648 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: first loss is always going to hurt more than any 649 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: other loss, but especially losing in the manner in which 650 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did on a final play that should have 651 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: been a touchdown instead it's an interception. So third gang, 652 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be okay. I think you know you've talked 653 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: me through at MJ some nice therapy session here on 654 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: this edition. The Cardinals covered two Cardinals are going to 655 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: be fine. But it's okay to let this one linger 656 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: for a little while. It's just going into a long break. 657 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: You would much rather have it going in on a high, 658 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: but you're going in on a low when you're watching 659 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: the NFL this weekend. Now, clearly the Packers will be 660 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: the number one seed because they had the Tybego Cards. 661 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: Now Dallas may have to go with a backup quarterback here, 662 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: we'll see. So maybe some of those teams that have 663 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: one loss now they make it their second laws. So 664 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: we're seven and one, and if you were told me 665 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year going into the forty 666 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: nine Ers game, the carbons will be seven and one. 667 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: Sign me up. People had two and four, five and 668 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: two after seven games, so it beats the alternative. But again, 669 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: when you see the standings this weekend and you see 670 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: all these one loss teams. Your team is number two 671 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: overall with nine games to go, and again, one game 672 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: at a time. That's the approach when the games are 673 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: supposed to and avoid losing streaks, and you will be 674 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: in the postseason with a nice seed and hopefully this 675 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: team maintains its first place standing in the division. You 676 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: look at what's ahead this weekend. The Rams are on 677 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: the road at the Texans, their first trip to Houston 678 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: in eight years. My guess is the Rams will join 679 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and be seven and one. Yet the Cardinals 680 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: will be ahead because of the head to head tiebreaker. 681 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: Rams following week Titans and the Tennessee Titans are playing 682 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: much better. It goes back to what you said, Sometimes 683 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: it's when you play an opponent. Cardinals got the Titans 684 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: at a very good time week one, and they're playing 685 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: some very good football now. Yeah and there and there 686 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: are two team race with the Colts. Obviously Jacksonville and 687 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: Houston is not going to be It's interesting and I 688 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: think ahead at ourselves. But it's like if you looked 689 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: at the wild Carti's possibly in the NFC. I mean 690 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: there's a huge drop off. I mean Minnesota is still 691 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: in the mix. I mean, if you've got three losses 692 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: right now in the NFC. Now, I don't know if 693 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: we can say the same thing about the forty nine 694 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: Ers and Seahawks forty nine ers this week or on 695 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: the road at the Bears, Jim mcgaroppolo will get the start. 696 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: Trey Lance still bothered by an ankle issue that he 697 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: hurt against the Cardinals. Is it garoppolo or is it 698 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance when the Cardinals come to town at Levi's Stadium. 699 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: Who knows, But that's something to pay attention to this weekend. Yeah, 700 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: I think of here, Kyle Shanahan. I mean, clearly Lance 701 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: isn't ready. Justin Fields isn't ready. The only guy I 702 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: think it was ready was Mac Jones and Zach Wilson. 703 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: Obviously he's on the shelf and it takes time, just 704 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: like we had Kyler Murray's first year. You know, it 705 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: was a struggle. So I think if you're Kyle Shanahan, now, 706 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson returns sooner or rather than later, I 707 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: gotta I would not throw dirt on them. Now. Are 708 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: they the same team? Maybe not defensively, but they still 709 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: have weapons. And when he's healthy, you know, DK Metcalfe 710 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: and lock it, and you know they can still move 711 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: the ball. It's just you know, their defense and may 712 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: give up some points. So I would not I would 713 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: not throw dirt on the Seahawks to say they can't 714 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: make a run because it's all predicated on their quarterback. 715 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: Two and five the Seahawks, they host the Jaguars. That 716 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: will be an interesting ball game with Geno Smith still 717 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: under center. And then when the Cardinals do play the 718 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks for the first time, it's November twenty first, and 719 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: it is the game in which Russell Wilson would be 720 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: eligible to return. Now does he return, I don't know, 721 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: but you know you don't have your starting quarterback. All 722 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: bets are off. And that's what's derailed Seattle more than 723 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: anything is you lose your starter, and that goes for 724 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: any team across the league. Lose your starter, you lose 725 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: a chance. And right now the Seahawks are underwater. But 726 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: if they do get Russell Wilson back, maybe they can 727 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: climb up and get to the surface. If you will. Yeah, 728 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: So bottom line, Cardinal fans go look at the standings. 729 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: You're seven and one. Yes, the tiebreaker goes to the Packers. 730 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: It's a long season. We know that. You know, the 731 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: Packers aren't blowing team out. Now they get some of 732 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: their weapons back, maybe it's a different story. Um. I think, 733 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: as you pointed out last night, the thing is you 734 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: don't want to go to Lambeau, but worry about that 735 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: down the road. I mean, that's that was a Champagne 736 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: problems well, and it's the Cardinals have put themselves in 737 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: that position for us to have Champagne problems and to 738 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: raise the level of expectations and now start thinking of 739 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: playoff seatings and tie breakers and something I did not 740 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: expect to be talking about week eight, maybe when we 741 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: got into December. But here we are late October and 742 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: having those conversations. So it is a credit to those 743 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: coaches and players that have put the Cardinals in position, 744 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: even though again twenty four twenty one MS things things. 745 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: But if eats, Let's say the Cardinals were four and 746 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: two and they lost lesson and now they're they're four 747 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: and three or something, you know, are Let's say they 748 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: were five and two, five and three, or let's just 749 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: say they were heading different record they lost last night. 750 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: There's seven and one, seven and one, So yeah, nobody. 751 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's happy this morning. I get it, but I just 752 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't give up on this team. And I and I 753 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: was encouraged with the fan base. Last night. We had 754 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: one guy that thought they should have won seventeen. No, 755 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: but everyone else, Hey, listen, you know it's gonna be fine. 756 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: But you know, nothing's perfect, and they got to address 757 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: some of these issues that have bogged us offense down 758 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: against the Niners and last night. So but these is 759 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: it's fixable. It's all fixable. It's just a matter of 760 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: everyone on the same page. And you know, they know 761 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: what's at stake right here. They know what's going on. 762 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: And on that note, let's put a lid on this 763 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hyunday, product partner 764 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 765 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Momndro For Mike Jarecki, I'm Craig Rayel 766 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: Lou We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals 767 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: Cover two.