1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is cole Minor, John, this is cole Minor Sale 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: And we have been digging for stories on the Okay 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Storytime podcast as long as we can remember saying. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: And we've found some diamonds of the rough. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: How haven't we job? That's right? But before we do that, 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: we have to wade through two more minutes of incredible 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors keeping us finding more great stories 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: on this show. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm living with my cheating ex's mom. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: It's our complicated living situation. 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm twenty two. My ex twenty two female cheated 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: on me. Her mom punted her out. Her mom forty 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: three females said I could live in the house forever 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: if I wanted. Am I the a hole? If I stay. 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 3: Calling her right now? 16 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 17 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: The mom wants you bad. 18 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: She wants you bad. By the way, this comes from 19 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: cry Repulsive ninety four to forty nine, And if you 20 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash. 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Okay Storytime suppered it. So I met my ex, let's 22 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: call her Lisa. So it's less intense for me. Writing 23 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: X is still a lot. You know, we met in 24 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: high school. We started dating when we were thirteen. It 25 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: was great her mom liked me, and I love Lisa. 26 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: She was funny, smart, and was gorgeous. She was a 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: gorgeous thirteen year old. We spent a lot of time 28 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: at her place because she was thirteen. Doi I was 29 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: so happy back then. I don't have parents, so I 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: lived with my grandma. But she was more than enough. 31 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: She was strong, funny in a crude way, lively, and 32 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: a straight up legend. I was seventeen when she passed 33 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: and I moved in with Lisa and her mom. I 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: was devastated, but they were very inviting. My relationship with 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: Lisa grew. It was amazing. They helped me through it. 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: Lisa was my rock. It was the three of us 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: since until now. 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, because she found another rock to sit on rhymes. 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: With the rock whoa oh yikes. Every day was similar 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: after our high school graduation. Her mom would drop Lisa 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: off at university and then her mom, let's call her Jen, 42 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: writing her mom over and over and this rant will 43 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: be weird. Jen and I would go to work, we 44 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: work on the same street, and then we'd leave at 45 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: five pm and go home. Lisa would be home by then. 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Then we'd eat dinner together. 47 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: Cute. 48 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: It was like that for the last. 49 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: Two years, a little too cute. 50 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: I know for some that sounds boring, but I enjoy stability. 51 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: I was happy, and we were saving up money for 52 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: our own place, a good place. Jen never asked for end, 53 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: but she always took it because she knows how important 54 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: it is to me that I contribute. Lisa and Jen 55 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: were my family. I was gonna marry Lisa and Jen 56 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: was my best friend. I know it's weird that my 57 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: best friend is my ex girlfriend's mom. 58 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: Well, now that we understand living which she's basically your 59 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: mom yeah or. 60 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: Mommy iyeyy yi. I found out she was cheating on 61 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: me last month. 62 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: Oh. 63 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: She accidentally sent me a text that was clearly meant 64 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: for him. Ooh. I was devastated and started crying. It 65 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: was unbearable. Jen heard me. I showed her my phone 66 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: and she just helped me. Lisa came home and instead 67 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: of apologizing or making an excuse, she said, with venom, 68 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: I am a new man and a better man. 69 00:02:59,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: Pack up. 70 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's crazy. It repeats in my head most days. 71 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: Jen snap. There was screaming and swearing. Jen ended up 72 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: telling Lisa she had thirty minutes to back up. I 73 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: just hid in the office and locked the door. I 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: couldn't handle it. I was paralyzed in that one spot. 75 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Lisa left about two hours later. 76 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: What so, wow, I'm just confused. How Ope he yeah, 77 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: didn't see this common Yeah she said it with venom. Yeah, 78 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't there be like something now you see it now different? 79 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like this is not at 80 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: all like going to be excusing her of her behavior 81 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: because that's terrible. But I feel like she's been with 82 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: this guy for thirteen years. 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 84 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: He started living with her because of, you know, some 85 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: loss of his grandmother. 86 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: So okay, so they've been together for thirteen years, started 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: living with each other. 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well they haven't been together. 89 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: Thirteen years, I know, but like they started living to 90 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: each other. So like, yeah, they're really cool. What you're 91 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: saying is they're getting really close to one another. 92 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Ope and his girlfriend. 93 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. Yeah, so like they've 94 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: been together, yeah for thirteen years, sort of living in 95 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: one another. There's just not a lot of separations exactly. 96 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it gets it's like, how you know, 97 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: you got to present someone who you're constantly living with 98 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: then you know, you have no space from Yeah, and 99 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: she did the worst. You know she dealt with that 100 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: in the worst way possible by cheating on her partner. 101 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: Yep, he likes to cuddle. He's like Sophia. He likes 102 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: to cuddle, but she likes to cuddle with somebody else. Yikes, 103 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: she's starting to do that. Like how did ope? He 104 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: thought this was here? But how do you not see 105 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: signs of it doing this? 106 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know complacent, I don't know 107 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: cowboys God says. She accidentally sent him a text that 108 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: said you're so much better than my boyfriend. Probably, but 109 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: Jen held me and said, this is your home for 110 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: as long as you want. If you want to move, 111 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: I'll miss you, but you'll still be family. If you want, 112 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: you can stay forever. 113 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: I know exactly how he held her to how she 114 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: held her. 115 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Uh oh, yikes, Yice. Being told that really helped me 116 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: feel safe and took away some of my nerves. Sometimes 117 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: when I wasn't around, Lisa and her dad came by 118 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: to pick her stuff up. Lisa and Jen have had 119 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: a couple of major fights, but Jen made it so 120 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: I happened to never be around for most of them. 121 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: Lisa and her friends are giving me a hard time, 122 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: sending hurt full text messages, and I just don't know 123 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: how to deal with that. What the heck, What the heck? 124 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: This is weird? This is weird. 125 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: Lisa has been switching between calling me a loser for 126 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: living with Jen and asking me for a second chance. 127 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: Really what really super different approaches, and I don't think 128 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: you can do both of them at the same time. 129 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: You can't say you're a loser, give me a second 130 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: chance of the same. 131 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Loser, give me a second chance. I am never getting 132 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: back together with her. I don't love her anymore. I 133 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: have succeeded in avoiding anyone on ones with Lisa, but 134 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm eventually going to have to talk to her. Lisa 135 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: has been living with her dad. He's tried to mediate, 136 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: but that was not accepted by me. Jen's stance is 137 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: what whether I live here or not. Her daughter is 138 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: not invited to live at home. Her actions are disgusting 139 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: and she needs severe and permanent consequences. She told me 140 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: that she still loves Lisa, but not the person she 141 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: has become. I want to continue to live here for 142 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: the time being. I sleep in the old office which 143 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: is now my room, and our old room is now 144 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: the study. It's the only home I've ever had, and 145 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: Jen is my best friend. A lot of people in 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: my life think I'm responsible for Lisa being punted out. 147 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: That's what got me questioning myself. Did I take her 148 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: home away? Am I the a hole if I continue 149 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: to live with my ex's mom? 150 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: And there is an update real quick clarifying he started 151 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: living with Jin and Lisa and his mom passed away. 152 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: M hm, okay, grandsather passed away. 153 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: Grandmother passed away. That is the one who's take care 154 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: of him. Yes, I don't think you living with Gin 155 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: is a bad thing. I don't see this as abnormal, 156 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: but it is a bad thing if it's to the 157 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: point where you're like twenty seven, you have a full 158 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: time job and you're living with Gin. At that point, 159 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: it's out. But it's sort of like a kid moving 160 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: out from their home. 161 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you should. I don't think you 162 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: should live there forever. Yes, I think that you have 163 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: a very special relation. Like normally, if this was just 164 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: your ex'es mom, I'd be like no, like this is 165 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: completely inappropriate, But this is basically your mom. She's raised 166 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: you since you were thirteen, basically, or maybe a little 167 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: bit after, like whenever your grandmother's be But yeah, she's 168 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: been around since you were thirteen, has raised you for 169 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: considerable time. This is a different relationship. However, I think 170 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: you should probably start Oh he's twenty two, by way, 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: but I think you should probably start trying to see 172 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: if you can find a new place to live. But 173 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that you have to rush out of there, no, 174 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: because she cleterarally doesn't think you have to rush out. 175 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: Of there, get your feet on. 176 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: But I think one you gotta start working on finding 177 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: a place, and two got to work on finding new friends. 178 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's definitely a lot of code dependency here. 179 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: There's so much codependency. I don't think your ex's mom 180 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 2: should be your best friend. 181 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: Whoa could be a mom? 182 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you can motherly relationship with her. 183 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 2: But I think that you should absolutely work on finding 184 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: new friends. 185 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: So a lot of people marry that, or a lot 186 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: of people marry their best friends. 187 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: Nice. But there's an update, folks. 188 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: I never really understood that I married my best friend. 189 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend Isabella. She's like, if you ever say 190 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be so upset with you because she's 191 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: my best friend. She's like, you can't went like in 192 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: your vows. You can't say I'm marrying my best friend. 193 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Don't don't you dare. 194 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: Like I don't one of your best friend. I want 195 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: to be your boyfriend. I want to be your lover, 196 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: you know, like best friend. 197 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: Yay, bestI I don't mind being like best friend. Well, 198 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: I have a lot of us friends. Update A lot happened. 199 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: A few days after my post. Lisa came by. We 200 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: talked just the two of us for the first time 201 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: since she was punted out. She started off by apologizing, 202 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: but immediately tried to shift blame on me and then 203 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: her mom. Then she asked if she could have a 204 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: second chance. I said no. And then she asked if 205 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: I was sleeping with her mom. Fair, honestly, fair question. 206 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: We're all asking that. Yeah. 207 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: I said no, that she is the only person I 208 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: have ever been intimate with, and that Jen was basically 209 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: my mom. Then she said, say you're still in love 210 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: with me with a smugness that drove me insane. I 211 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: remember exactly what I told her. I don't love you 212 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: the second I found out you cheated on me, it disappeared, 213 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: and that I would rather drink three leaders of elephant 214 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: piss every day for the rest of my life before 215 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: I would get back together with you. 216 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: Some would you rather really do bother me? They became real. Yikes. 217 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: She slapped me and then went to the backyard and 218 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: had it out with Jen. Yikes, she cheated on you, 219 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: and she's upset. She's upset that you don't love her 220 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: still after she cheated on you. 221 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: Also, girl, whenever elephant takes a piss, how many leaders 222 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: is it? 223 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Because do you have to He's gonna be drinking 224 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: a lot of pea? 225 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it like one leader you have to go 226 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: to seat the elephant three times a day? Or is 227 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: it all in one go and you just have that 228 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: leader you take down for the rest of the day. 229 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: He's got one of those camel backpacks. 230 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: Mmmm. Can you batch up and get a weekly back? 231 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry so off to the point. 232 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: She said some of the most vile things I've ever 233 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: heard in my life. Why is she so awful? If 234 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: her mom is so great, why is she so awful? 235 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: I won't write it down and I definitely won't speak 236 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: it to her mom. It was disturbing. Then Jen, in 237 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: a very calm voice, said that she was no longer 238 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: her daughter and told her she was trespassing and to 239 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: get out. Lisa looked shocked and then stormed off. The 240 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: second Lisa left, Jen had a meltdown. It lasted hours. 241 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: I was pissed off at Lisa. She confided to me 242 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: that she hates her daughter now and doesn't want a 243 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: relationship with her anymore. I love that. 244 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: Also, we have some information on left and pissing. Oh yeah, oh, I. 245 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Don't love that. 246 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: The internet's full of crazy stuff and this one's pretty mundane. 247 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: So on average, per day, it's fifty leaders per time 248 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: is about ten leaders. That's three gallons. 249 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's ten leaders is three days worth. So 250 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: if you just catch them at one time when they go, 251 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: when you got three days worth, you only have to 252 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: see I'm just worried about how many times a week 253 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: you have to see the elephant. 254 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: She started going to the therapy. 255 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: So that's actually not so many, that's less. It's like 256 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: you have to see the elephant twice a week. 257 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: Basic, Okay, it's not make sure sure, yep, I'm just 258 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: she started going to therapy and told me around two 259 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: weeks ago that she's disowning Lisa and it's what's best 260 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: for her mental health. That a therapist said she can 261 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: still love her daughter and not want anything to do 262 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: with her. 263 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: Wow, that's like, Wow, what made her into this person? 264 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: Why does she have this much resist Well, she. 265 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: Has her dad, so maybe it's like her dad is 266 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: not great. But that's an intense reaction. I feel like, 267 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: as a parent, I would want Yeah, and thirteen says 268 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: she must have said some horrible things. She must have 269 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: because I'm thinking, I'm like, what would she have to 270 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 2: say for her mom to disown her? Yeah, Like I 271 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: would want to have more conversations with my daughter before 272 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: I like jumped straight to disowning. 273 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, she did mention early on that her and Lisa 274 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: would fight a lot without Ope being around. Yeah, so 275 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: there's probably been some resentment on that end. She probably 276 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: has a more maternal thing for Opie than she does 277 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: the daughter, and she's like, I can just be a 278 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: mother to op instead of my daughter. 279 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. I've been supporting her the 280 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: best I can. I like being helpful. Lisa made less 281 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: and less attempts to contact me. She's living with her dad. 282 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: Five days ago, I got a text from Lisa's best friend, 283 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: let's call her Kate. She was one of a few 284 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: of Lisa's friends who didn't pester me and actually picked 285 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: me in the breakup. We've talked a few times since 286 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: the breakup. To console me. She asked if she could 287 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: come by with some of Lisa's friends so they can apologize. 288 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: I was apprehensive, but this woman is a straight shooter 289 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: and I was curious. So they came by and Kate 290 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: said thank you for letting them come over. Then the 291 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: other three women each took turns apologizing to me. 292 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: Oh nice. 293 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: Then they apologized to Jen for everything. Then they dropped 294 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: a bom. They didn't know she was cheating. Apparently Lisa 295 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: had been telling people that she only cheated because I 296 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: was with her mom and that's why she was punted out. 297 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's a liar. I was wondering, why 298 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: are all these friends horrible and believing it. Yeah, this 299 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: kind of person and these kind of things, This makes 300 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: so much sense. I still kind of believe a little. 301 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: Bit, but I still do. I asked why they thought 302 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: I would ever do something like that, and why they 303 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: were apologizing now. They said it was easier to think 304 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: I was a cheater than their best friend was a 305 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: lying seaward their word, not mine. They told me they 306 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: had cut her out. I must have looked like I 307 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: didn't believe them, So they all showed me their text 308 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: messages to Lisa and their social media. It seemed really 309 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: important to them that I believe them, and yeah, they 310 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: definitely did. They were not gentle about it, to say 311 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: the least. 312 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: It is a tiny bit crazy that they went out 313 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: of their way to show how aggressively they caught out 314 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: this woman. 315 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 316 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: I don't blame them, though, Yeah, because of a friend 317 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: of mine. Let's say let's say a friend of mine 318 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: you cheated on someone and I went to them and 319 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: was like, I can't believe you cheated on Sophia and 320 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: did all these things whenever you were lying. Yeah, I 321 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: would definitely go to them and be like, yo, show 322 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: that's I doubt that. 323 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean like that's I wouldn't want 324 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: to be friends with that person after that. 325 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: Honestly, there should be more friends like this where they 326 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: go out and they clue their names like that, yeah, or. 327 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: Like I also like understand their friends, because if one 328 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: of my friends said, yeah, they cheated on me, I'd 329 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: be like, well, you're my friends, so I want to 330 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: believe you, and I mean clearly. Ope, he didn't see 331 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: this coming, so it makes sense that they wouldn't. 332 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course she had everybody fooled, but UH was 333 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: a little bit left. 334 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: I accepted their apology. Mostly they all left, but Kate, Kate, 335 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: and Jen went to the backyard. I don't know what 336 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: they talked about, but they were both smiling when they 337 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: came back. I thanked Kate for setting them straight and 338 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: being on my side throughout the breakup. She said she 339 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: was just following her moral compass. I'm doing much better 340 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: now and I don't plan on moving out until the 341 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: time is right for Jen and me. Jen has become 342 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: my best friend and we support each other. This relationship 343 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: is still a little bit weird to me. I have 344 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: a routine I follow that really helps. Also, I started 345 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: sleeping better. 346 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: Wonder and that's the end of that story. I wonder 347 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: why you started sleeping better? 348 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: No, Riley, No, but uh oh p, I think you 349 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: know you didn't do anything wrong. You have a really 350 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: close relationship with your ex's mom, so it makes sense 351 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: that you're to stay living with her, But I think 352 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: I think the goal should be to find some more 353 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: friends your age. Yeah, you know, we go basically your. 354 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: Mom or other adults that aren't your ex's mom or 355 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: that or that. 356 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 357 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: I have friends that are forty in up that I 358 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: hang out with on a weekly basis. 359 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: Are they your ex'es mom? 360 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: No? Yeah, they're basketball players. 361 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 362 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, James are Dwayne Q. 363 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: It's not really the age, honestly, it's just the fact 364 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: the relationship that they have, you know, it's like, that's 365 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: basically your mom and also that's your ex's mom. I 366 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: feel like we could branch out a little. But there 367 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: is another story, folks. 368 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: My girlfriend is alone with another guy at two in 369 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: the morning. 370 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: That's suspicious. 371 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: I twenty nine mal had plans to hang out with 372 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: my girlfriend, twenty five female after her class tonight around 373 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: nine to ten pm. So I text her something nice 374 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: around that time to let her know I was thinking 375 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: of her and see when she would be done. No response. 376 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: She texts me hi A couple hours later, I respond, Hey, 377 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: what's up. At this point, a little upset that she 378 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: had blown me off for hours past the time she 379 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: said she would hit me up after class. No response again, 380 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: this time for the rest of the night. By the way, 381 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: this comes from Ace Jackson and if you want to 382 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: spit your own stories, go to the ar slash Okay 383 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: story times. So I read it. So I was starting 384 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: to get worried because I know she leaves campus late 385 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: and it could be sketchy in that area. Sometimes. I 386 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: texted her and call her a couple more times, no response. 387 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm definitely worried and text her I'm 388 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: gonna stop by to make sure she's all good. She's 389 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: a girl and lives alone and just about five minutes 390 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: away from me. So I swing by and all the 391 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: lights are on. I'll walk up to the front door 392 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: and knock. She comes out looking surprised, steps outside oddly 393 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: m I say, what's up. I was worried you weren't okay. 394 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: I never heard back from you, and you kind of 395 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: bailed on our plants. She then says, oh, sorry, I've 396 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: been hanging out with some friends from school, So I ask, 397 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: is someone in there right now? She tries to casually 398 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: play it off. There was a guy from class over. 399 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: We've been hanging out talking about our class. Mind you 400 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: it's two am. 401 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh come on, girl, you blow off your plans with 402 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: your partner to hang out with a guy from your 403 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: class until two am, and then you we're gonna lie 404 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: about it. You literally said, oh, yeah, I'm hang out 405 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: with friends from class, and Opie says, is someone there now? 406 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh yeah, like a guy from my class. 407 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: Two things that I've seen right now. One, yeah, he 408 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: asked to hang out. Usually, if you're dating, you're like, oh, 409 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna come over by this. I don't really ask, 410 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: so it's early on in the relationship. My second question 411 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: is how or I guess My first question is how 412 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: long have you guys been together? Good question, because it 413 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: was three months. You might be the other fella I feel. 414 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Like then maybe I feel like that guy inside wouldn't 415 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: be like, hey, who's talking to you? 416 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: Maybe? But if she's good at this, she can handle 417 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: on her own. She knows how to juggle. She then 418 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: asked me to come in, and if I want to 419 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: meet him, I say yes, I come in and meet 420 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: this guy who looks a bit startled and dreuce myself, 421 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: and then they start catching me up on what they 422 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: were talking about my girlfriend is acting pretty odd, like 423 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: super casual that the fact I just showed up at 424 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: one thirty in the morning after she's been ignoring me, 425 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: and there's some random guy I don't know there. She's 426 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: acting like a snow big deal. Within twenty minutes, I 427 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: decide I'm going home and ask her to walk me out. 428 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: I then ask her to make the guy leave, because 429 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: there's no reason he should be there so late. She 430 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: says no, we were in the middle of a conversation. 431 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: I try to explain to her that this isn't cool 432 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: with me and makes me uncomfortable, and she doesn't seem 433 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: to care one bit. She says, I'm not gonna argue 434 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: with you about this while someone is right here. We 435 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: can talk tomorrow, and then walks back inside. I try 436 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 3: not to make a scene and be respectful of her 437 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: house while still letting her know it wasn't cool. Am 438 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: I crazy or are those serious red flags? And am 439 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: I being naive here? I have to talk to her 440 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: tomorrow and I'm not sure how to approach this. Keon, Sophia, 441 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: what are we doing? Hmmm? Break up? Oh? 442 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? She respected me? 443 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she lied about it. 444 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: I caught you and you're still going to play this. 445 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: Off alone with a guy that is in a class 446 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: with her until two am, and then she lied about it. 447 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: And the real kicker is that she blew off plans 448 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: to do. 449 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: Yes, it was like not one strike, not two strike. 450 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 4: It was like three. 451 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: Strikes in one night. Yeah, five strikes in one night. 452 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're breaking up. We got an update. This all 453 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: happening a couple of days, but for what would have 454 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: been annas. 455 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're like a year at least. 456 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 4: Dang, that's rough one month. 457 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: That's true, I guess. 458 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: Anniversary. 459 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I didn't celebrate any anniversaries, and well, 460 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel like some people celebrate 461 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: like one month, two months. I didn't have any intention 462 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: to that. 463 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Oh that's like high school kind of level. 464 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: Okay, well I didn't do that, So you're. 465 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying I'm mature. 466 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so much. 467 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: I did six months to Angie Owen and I little 468 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: that makes sense. Yeah, I'm like, we did it. 469 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did it. We made it to six months. 470 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: I obviously should have seen the signs from the first post, 471 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: but the first part of this update and you guys know, 472 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: I initially did not end the relationship. What a regret. Yeah, 473 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: how I handled it was. We met the next morning 474 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: to talk and I let her explain her side of things. 475 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: She explained that other people were at the house that 476 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: night earlier, and she was going to be hanging around 477 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: with kids from class sometimes now that school has started. 478 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, she's twenty five going back to school now, 479 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 3: and most of these kids are nineteen to twenty two. 480 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: Nothing super serious as far as class load is concerned. 481 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: She's studying theater at the community college. Sofia, you are 482 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: so into this, But what does that mean? If you're 483 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: studying theater at community college and you're twenty five talking 484 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: to twenty two year old boys? Does that mean? 485 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: Well, the theater at a community college at twenty five 486 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: is fine. That part's fine. 487 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying I need, you know, nineteen year 488 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: old boys or whatever. What kind of class project are 489 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: you doing at you know, at two o'clock in the 490 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 3: morning with it none? None, You're you're smooching, smooching, you're 491 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: speechin to, you're practicing your kiss scenes. Yeah, yeah, I 492 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: use the date of theater, chick. Will we be hanging 493 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: out till two o'clock in the morning. That's so, I 494 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: love that for your homework. And then the next year 495 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: classes got serious. I was hanging out with my friend 496 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: Daniel Cox till two o'clock in the morning, running papers. 497 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: Okay, but. 498 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: Okay, I just I still had the from the theater. She 499 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: but I was just writing papers. I wasn't hanging out 500 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: with her anymore. Like school got serious a serious. Yeah, 501 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: it's because that stupid film professor. His name was mister Hollywood. No, 502 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: his name was mister Hollyfield. 503 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: Hollyfield. 504 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: Interesting Hollywood. Yeah, it was right. His favorite movie was 505 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: RoboCop because of the clamation they had in that movie. Yeah, 506 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: I better start talking about him. He's gonna watch this 507 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: one day. I explained to her why all the signs 508 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 3: point to that being a major fred flag. She somewhat 509 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: hears me out and apologizes for not better communicating her 510 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: plans that night, but defends herself that hanging out with 511 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: friends from class is not wrong, so in the future 512 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: she would be communicating better about her plans and do 513 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: a better job not making me feel concerned. I was 514 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: obviously angry and upset about this previous situation, but I 515 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: truly love this girl and was willing to give things 516 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: a chance to progress forward and her show me the 517 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: positive changes. We had continued our relationship and it was 518 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: going good for the most part. Then recently communication did 519 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: not seem to be going the best, and there were 520 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: some signs that she wasn't giving as much effort into 521 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: the things we spoke about before as she had promised 522 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: to do. There were signs of her actually trying to 523 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: pick fights and prepared to waiting them longer than needed, 524 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: even when I had made attempts to reconcile and move 525 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: forward from any arguments. Sounds like she's looking for an out. 526 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, this doesn't seem like she wants to be 527 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: in this relationship. 528 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: I did feel heavily at this time that she was 529 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: not respecting me in these conversations, and any attempts I 530 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: made to lovingly let her know this was met with hostility, 531 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: which she then would attempt to turn right back on 532 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: me like it was my fault the fight even happened. 533 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: This was getting old, but I was still making every 534 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: effort to bring us back to a good space on 535 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: a more everyday basis because I was wildly in love 536 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: with this girl and the connection I thought we shared. 537 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: The deceiving thing was is that she was also very 538 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: good at making me feel at other times she felt 539 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: the same way about me. You're the love of my life. 540 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: I love you more than anything. Future plans together, talking 541 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: about how lucky she was to be with me, et cetera. 542 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: These were all exploited to be absolute lies. Fast forward 543 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: to a few nights ago. We had plans to hang 544 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: out that night, and when I asked her earlier in 545 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: the day what she wanted to do, she told me 546 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: she actually agreed to go get sushi with a friend 547 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: she hadn't seen a while. 548 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: Hm, which friend? 549 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his name? 550 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: Friend? When don't you get in sushi? You gotta get 551 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: sushi at two in the morning. 552 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't. 553 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: They're not open at that time. 554 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: What's going on there? 555 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: The fisher are sleeping? 556 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? I want sushi. 557 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: Oh no, you've done OPI. I let her know this 558 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: upset me, since she was bailing on her plans, but 559 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: it attempts to understanding. I then suggest we just meet 560 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: up after instead and go out that night to do 561 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: something fun. She did not give me a definite answer, 562 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: but kept bouncing around the subject, saying she would keep 563 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: me updated on when she was finished. I let her know, hey, 564 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: don't cancel plans with your boyfriend. Then, when he's cool 565 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: about it and tries to suggest something else, leave him 566 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 3: up in the air, saying maybe we can hang It 567 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: makes me feel like not a priority and isn't how 568 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: you treat someone you love. She ends up going off 569 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: on me again and we leave on the terms of Okay, 570 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: we'll just talk later. I call later and let her 571 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: know that after dinner it would mean a lot if 572 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: we could spend some time together. I had been wanting 573 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: that since all the time we were hanging out was 574 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: during the day with other stuff going on. Sometimes she 575 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: calls me after dinner around nine thirty pm and lets 576 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: me know she's home. I asked her to come hang 577 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: out so we can figure out what to do. Then 578 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: she deflects with, oh, my other friend girl who I know, 579 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: wanted to go to a midnight showing of a movie 580 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: tonight and I haven't seen her in so long. 581 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm a midnight showing, So what time are you 582 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: getting back? Two in the morning. 583 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: I know I may seem completely stupid to you guys 584 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: at this point, but I assure you. I was already 585 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: seeing through a BS and knew something wasn't right. I 586 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 3: kept calm, just let her know I think that's messed up, 587 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: bums me out, and that I wish she would at 588 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: least try to include me with her friends when doing 589 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 3: stuff like this. She then takes to the level of 590 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: trying to make me feel bad that I can't just 591 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: be understanding and maybe she wants to go out with 592 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: her friends without me. 593 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes I literally don't trust this woman at all. 594 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: No, I don't either a movie trust Also, fun fact, 595 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: movies have really good cameras inside them, So whatever you 596 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: do in movies all recorded. Keon, yeah, keon, I don't mind. 597 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, OPI your girlfriend is like obviously lying to 598 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: you and she thinks you're dumb. 599 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: Maria says, hey, uh, one movie you gonna go see? 600 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: What time about theater? Great? I'm gonna go watch on 601 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: the Yeah. 602 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like every time a Pie says like, hey, yeah, 603 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: I'd love to hang out, she's like, you're not. No, 604 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: Like I can't hang out with my friends alone. Like 605 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: I feel like she makes this big deal out of. 606 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: Everything she does. 607 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, really weird, super suspicious. 608 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: It is she tells me she will call me after 609 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: the movie and asks if she can come over and 610 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: spend the night with me after it's finished. Meanwhile, I 611 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: knew I had friends going out that night as well, 612 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 3: and I could grab some drinks with them, finish her 613 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: up around the same time, and then meet back at 614 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: my house to spend the night together. I did not 615 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: tell her I was going out because it did not 616 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: seemed relevant at the time, and I had some weird 617 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: suspicions that maybe something else was going on. One forty 618 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: five am rolls around and I'm leaving the bar with 619 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: some friends to go grab a burrito before heading home. 620 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: I walk down the street and lo and behold, there 621 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: she is on the corner of the street standing with 622 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: a guy. 623 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: Yikes. Also, she was planning at coming over to your 624 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: house out like when two. 625 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: In the morning, three in the morning, because that guy's 626 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: probably gonna stay call her out and one, and. 627 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: She had plans to come hang out with you that night. 628 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: One of the same guys from that night at the 629 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: house in my original post. Shocker, I know, So it 630 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: was the same dude. 631 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Oh so there were multiple people at her house. 632 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was probably one dude there who knows 633 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: she might like more than one seems like it. 634 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: Amy Lynn says she's pregas lighting him so that he'll 635 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: be more accepting when she calls him controlling. 636 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: Ooh, pregas lighting? What do you call that? What? Preheating? 637 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: Pre heating? 638 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: We can ad that to the book. Yes, yes, that's 639 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: his book. I confront her and ask her what's going on. 640 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: She attempts to even further lie, explain how her girlfriend 641 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: was supposed to come like that makes it any better? 642 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: Is it what it looks like? Blah blah blah blah blah. 643 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: Some old bs lies and no accountability. When even caught 644 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: in a dead lie on a date with another guy. 645 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: Where's the movie? 646 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: How even was the movie? 647 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: Sit? Outdoor movie? 648 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: H I turned to the guy and ask him what's 649 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: going on. He explains he invited her to the movies. 650 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: Now much else kind of looks scared because I'm sure 651 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: I was. I rate. I have no problem with them 652 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: at all, because it's one hundred percent my then girlfriend's fault. 653 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: He's probably like, tell to me straight, buddy. And plus 654 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: this guy's probably like twenty and he's twenty nine. Twenty oh, 655 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: he's thirty five. I think so no, no, no, he's twenty nine. 656 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: A girlfriend's twenty five. Girlfriends Oh, you're right, were right? Okay, sorry, 657 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: so he's probably twenty nine dude being like. 658 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: Yo, hey, why are you with my girlfriend? Bud? What 659 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: are you doing with my girlfriend? He's like, oh, we're 660 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: going to a movie. 661 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: I walked to the other side with her and ask 662 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: her to be real with me for once, tell me 663 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: what's going on and to come to terms with who 664 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: she is and what she's done here. She shuts down 665 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: when she realizes she can't talk her way out of things, 666 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: and tries to ask if we can talk tomorrow and 667 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: not make a scene here. I tell her, if you 668 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: want to explain yourself, well, then you can't leave right now, 669 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: and I will at least hear you out. She says, No, 670 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm not leaving my friend here alone. You were overreacting 671 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: and it's not as bad as it looks. 672 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: I would immediately break up. I'd be like, okay, all right, cool, 673 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: get right with your friend. Yeah, yep, I'm not leaving 674 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: my friend here. What do you mean I'm not leaving 675 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: my friend here? 676 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: Huh. Even though I'm pretty hard at this point, I 677 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: can't help but to bust out and laughter at the 678 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: disbelief of the whole thing. I tell her this is 679 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: it and the relationship is fully done now should have 680 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: been done a while ago, but that seals the deal, 681 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: and I truly see you for who you are now, 682 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: a lying, manipulative, actual sociopath. I left with my friends, 683 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: blocked her on everything, and am now moving forward for good. 684 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: I do want to say, though I made huge mistake 685 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: in this whole scenario, but not leaving when my gut 686 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: told me to. So many signs pointed to her being 687 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: so fake, such a liar, and not trustworthy at all. 688 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: But I let the good times under manipulative words keep 689 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: me around, thinking that I just needed to make more 690 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: effort myself to make things work. I will say, maybe 691 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: you can relate to this. Whenever relationships don't seem to 692 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: be working, what it feels like you need to pour 693 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: more work into them instead of them easily just flowing 694 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: together and just working. 695 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're trying to solve problems, and you're trying 696 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: to solve problems and then ever go away. Yeah, I mean, 697 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: I think there are always going to be hard things 698 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: in a relationship. But if you're not seeing that work 699 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: being done on both ends, then it's probably not a 700 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: relationship that's going to work out. 701 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I will say being with Angie, it doesn't 702 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: feel like work at all at any point there. I mean, 703 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: like we talk about things and everything, but it doesn't 704 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: feel like I have to pour work into it. It 705 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 3: just happens. 706 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, because well you have two hands holding it up, yeah, 707 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: rather than just one person being like yeah and the 708 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: other person being like stomping on it. 709 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I have been in relationships where I putting 710 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: in a lot of work and stuff. Does it seem 711 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: to be doing anything? 712 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 713 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Back to the story. Even though I said I was 714 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: very hurt by being deceived and catching someone cheat on me, 715 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: I ultimately know it's one hundred percent for the best 716 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: and a huge blessing in disguise because this person actually 717 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: truly never loved me the way I cared for them. 718 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: Who knows how much longer I would have to be 719 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: stuck around and let myself be treated like this. I 720 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: am grateful it happened now, and there is no chance 721 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: in heck I would give her a second chance. Sorry 722 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: for the novel, feels good event much love edit. I 723 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: really appreciate all the positive response and feedback. At two 724 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: for people responding thinking I was making assumptions about the 725 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: situation I walked upon that night and defending that it 726 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: could have just been a friend, let me explain that 727 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 3: there was no way. It was not what it looked like. 728 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: I did not include the whole dialogue exchange between us, 729 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: but the guy did make it clear he was under 730 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: impression that they were on a date, which is when 731 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: I walked away, because it most definitely contradicted her whole 732 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: made up story. Yeah, dang, you will find you're a 733 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: queen obe rough Rough. 734 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if he thought it was a date, 735 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: it was a date. Yeah, yeay, Rough, And I'm sorry, 736 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: and you'll find someone better who treats you right. 737 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: Agreed. Agreed. Yeah, that's out there. Oh god, this is crazy. 738 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story. And we've 739 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: got another one. 740 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: Folks. Hey, it's Sam. 741 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to these stories. But here's three 742 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: minutes of ads from our sponsors. 743 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: My long distance girlfriend slept over with another guy. 744 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: I think we can increase the distance. 745 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: My girlfriend, twenty eight female, and I, twenty nine male, 746 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: have been together for over a year and a half. 747 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: Now we are doing long distance and only see each 748 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: other about three times a year, usually a month and 749 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: a half a visit. Oh wow, this girl has been 750 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: my world and has significantly influenced my outlook on life. 751 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: I never knew I could love a person this much. 752 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: I guess this is why I'm so conflicted. I simped 753 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: hard for her. Although we have our ups and downs, 754 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: our relationship is generally great and I've had the best 755 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: moments in my life spent with her. By the way, 756 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: this comes from Adventurous EBB eighty and if you want 757 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: to spit your own stories, go to the R size. Okay, 758 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: story time suburden. The following happened in sequence and a 759 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 3: span of the last month and a half issue number one. 760 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: She has this guy best friend who flew where she 761 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: lives to attend a love concert with her. What's a 762 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: love concert? 763 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: A love song concert? 764 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 3: A love song concert? I don't know, same thing. They 765 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: live in the same country. He then proceeded to rent 766 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: an expensive sports car to bring my girlfriend out for 767 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: a fancy launch and dinner, and then the love song concert. 768 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: She then brings him home for a sleepover. He is 769 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: not attracted to the same gender. I'll due the perception 770 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: on that. So he's gay, he's not. 771 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: He's not gay. 772 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh he's not gay. Not gay? 773 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he rented an expensive car to take her 774 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: off to lunch. Bro, that doesn't look great. Why did 775 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: he need to do that? 776 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: She told me about it a week before the event, saying, hey, 777 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: I'm going to the concert with him. He's crashing into 778 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: my place. No that, she only told me that she 779 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: was going to do it and never bothered to ask 780 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: if I'd be okay with it. Fun fact, if you 781 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: rent an expensive sports car, you can also rent a 782 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: hotel for the night. Huh. 783 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: I okay, I don't think that. I Like, I literally 784 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: just stayed with one of my friends. I don't think 785 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: that staying with your friends is inherently not okay. But 786 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: I think the renting the sports car to take her 787 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: out to lunch and dinner suspicious. Yeah, that's the suspicious 788 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: thing to me. 789 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: I see, this is the perfect scenario. Is Sofia and 790 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 3: I's relationship. Okay, Angie knows about it, she knows Sofia, 791 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: She's cool with Sofia, all this stuff. So if I 792 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: take Sofia to dinner, it's just like LI and so 793 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: Finner are gonna go get sushi, you know, that's it. 794 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna get a fancy sports car and 795 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: drive Sofia along. That would be weird, and go to 796 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: a love concert with you, that would be weird. 797 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: I will actually have like a pretty good example, like 798 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: this past week, I was in Chicago visiting my friend. 799 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: My friend has a partner and was like, hey, just 800 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: like if you could make my partner comfort who I 801 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 2: haven't met before, like just make And I was staying 802 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: with him and they were like, make make my partner comfortable, 803 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: just like you know, you know, be who you are already, 804 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: but just you know, to be open and honest and. 805 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, be Sofia, you know, yeah, give her that vibe. 806 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: It makes sense. 807 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: But I think it is absolutely fair to be like, 808 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: I want to make my partner comfortable because this person 809 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: is coming who I don't know. So I don't think 810 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: it is inherently cheating to have at all, because I 811 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 2: just did that, to have a person come over who's 812 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: an opposite gender or whatever and stay at your house. 813 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: But I think adding the other stuff it gets a 814 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 2: little suspicious. I don't think it's just you know, it's 815 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: proof yet, but it is suspicious not fun. 816 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm super uncomfortable, especially with a lack 817 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: of respect from both of them, like do I even exist? 818 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: Neither of them thought that I her boyfriend might not 819 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: be okay with their special day and a sleepover. So yeah, 820 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: I was clearly uncomfortable with it, and she could tell. 821 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 3: But I did not want to get in between their friendship, 822 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: so I held it in. Since then, I've tried talking 823 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: to her about how troubled I was by it, and 824 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: every time I did, she flipped things on me, like 825 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: saying I don't make enough money and I don't update 826 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 3: her enough when I'm at the gym, And every time 827 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: I end up apologizing and promising him to do better 828 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 3: for her. She only addresses my concerns with stuff like, yeah, 829 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: he's a friend, I'm no one for ages. I did 830 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 3: not cheat on you. I can't change the past. 831 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 2: What do you mean you can't change the past. 832 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: She never showed genuine empathy for the pain she caused me, 833 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 3: never saying things like I'm so sorry, I will never 834 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: do that again. Her apologies always seemed to have an 835 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 3: annoyed That's the thing. 836 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: It's like she's not attempting to make ope comfortable at all. Again, 837 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 2: totally could be totally patonic, but like, introduce your partner 838 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: to this person, Yeah, make an effort. If this is 839 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 2: your best friend or like a close friend, and you are, 840 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: you know, care about your partner, then let's make an effort. 841 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 3: Also love song concert interesting. She had tears in her eyes, 842 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: sigh eyed me, and said, hardy told you that I'm 843 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: sorry this happened in person. She's now visiting me in 844 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 3: my country. 845 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 2: Oh issue one rant? 846 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 3: Oh issue one rant. 847 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're still on issue one, but there's kind 848 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: of a talkback about got it. 849 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: She posted a story with the guy best friend publicly, 850 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 3: and I caught a glimpse of her phone. It took 851 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: selfies together. Right now, She's visiting me in my country 852 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: and has never taken a single selfie of us together 853 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: nor posted a story with me in it. I confronted 854 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: her about this and her response was him and I 855 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: don't see each other often, And I was thinking, WTF, 856 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: what about us? We are literally doing long distance and 857 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: they don't see each other at Alton either. 858 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: Mmm. 859 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 3: She also tends to compare my capabilities to the guy 860 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 3: best friends. Bro, you're the side. Man. 861 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: Oh, yikes, yikes, yikes, yikes. I don't like this one bit. 862 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 2: She's just she's s gaslighting you. She's putting the blame 863 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: on you for different things so that you forget that 864 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be upset about what she's doing. 865 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 3: She puts me down and puts him on a pedestal. 866 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 3: He is rich. 867 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he rented a nice car for her. 868 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: So issue number two. She regularly complains that I do 869 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: not provide for her during her current visit. Now, I 870 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: spent hours on consecutive days, including my workdays, driving her 871 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 3: around and helping her move stuff. She was unappreciative of 872 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 3: my efforts and only thank me whenever I asked for one. 873 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: We discussed the provide matters seriously, and I laid out 874 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: everything I could provide. She cried, saying, this is nothing 875 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: life I want. Okay, I've been here, collar wraps, I've 876 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 3: been here, callar wraps. You don't have to. If what 877 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: you bring to enough, call it he wraps. 878 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if she's complaining, she's saying this is 879 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: not what I wanted, then okay, yeah bye. 880 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: I was literally in a car conversation for two hours 881 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: straight talking my ex telling me that I'm never going 882 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,479 Speaker 3: to provide enough for her in the life that she wants. 883 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: I should have just called her wraps in. Yeah. 884 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 2: I mean, if they're saying that, go find someone else. 885 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: There is a difference between saying, Hey, this is what 886 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: I want for a life, let's build towards there, and 887 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,479 Speaker 2: saying you don't. You're not providing me what I want 888 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: right now, You yourself cannot provide me what I want 889 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 2: to week, why are you? Why are we together? Then? 890 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: Yes, she says that just my time and effort is 891 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: not enough, basically saying I need to spend more money 892 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 3: on her. I guess after all this, I broke down, 893 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: crying like I've never seen before, sobbing like a little witch. 894 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: Tiered for days, I thought to myself that she was 895 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: not the same person I love so dearly. I felt 896 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: I have once again let myself down, and after a 897 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 3: few days of not talking, I made up my mind 898 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 3: to end things. Break up with Tim. I expressed that 899 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 3: I don't feel appreciated and lack of respect from her 900 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: and her guy best friend or a deal breaker from me. 901 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 3: She's thought the extent of it and finally became more 902 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: apologetic this time, she convinced me to give the relationship 903 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 3: another go, and I reluctantly did. No Issue number three, 904 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: we traveled to Korea. I was using her phone to 905 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: take a photo of her and a message came from 906 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: the guy best friend. He called her babe. I confronted 907 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: her about it and asked if she calls him babe too. 908 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: She told me that she does, tells me it doesn't 909 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 3: mean anything. It really got me uncomfortable, especially after the 910 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: breakup attempt happened. She clearly knows the extent of it 911 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 3: all and still receives babe messages from him. But once 912 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 3: again I held it in cuz we're on a holiday. 913 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: Dude, you're too forgiving about this. 914 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 3: Sophia and I don't have. The nickname I have for 915 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: Sophia is Soap. 916 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 917 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: I call her Soap, not Riley, Riley, not babe, not nope, 918 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: you know whatever those names are, it's so Yeah. 919 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: I call Riley Gurley. Yeah. That's that's the extent of 920 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: our nicknames. See if she had been like, oh, we 921 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 2: say love you, blah blah blah, I'd be like, yeah, 922 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: that's fair. I do that with all my guy friends. Babe, 923 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: I don't do that. No, No, that's weird. 924 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: So here I am. Our relationship has rekindled after the 925 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 3: Korea trip, but I am still constantly thinking about the 926 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 3: deal breakers and her behavior towards it all. I don't 927 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: think I can look past them. 928 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 2: Don't look past them, look at them. Stop looking past them, 929 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: look right at them. 930 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 3: The ovens on, don't worry about the ovens being on. 931 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: Ovens on. Go turn it off, Go turn it off. 932 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 3: In the past, I've always promised that I do better 933 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: for our future, But after what happened with the guy 934 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: best friend, I don't feel like I want to work 935 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: harder for her in particular anymore. Please write it. This 936 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: is my first time posting here as I'm mega conflicted. 937 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: What would you do? Giving my situation? I need some advice. 938 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,439 Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of being alone or unable to find 939 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: someone else. I'm just afraid of losing this particular girl. 940 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 3: Update Obi, what's the hardest thing to do? Ask yourself 941 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: that question, and that's what you got to do. 942 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 2: I mean, you just got to leave her. 943 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: When would you have left? 944 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 2: Oh? 945 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 3: Wait, earlier, when, like exactly at the rental of the thing. 946 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. I would have had a conversation. Okay, 947 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: I would have said, hey, it made me feel really uncomfortable. 948 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 3: And then wait, what about what about the point when 949 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: they started comparing. 950 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, then the one where what was the one she 951 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: said she was like. 952 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 3: You don't make as much as he. Yeah, he's a 953 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 3: better man than you. 954 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, you go date him. Yeah, that's 955 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: that's where I'm like, once you start comparing me to 956 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: other people that you clearly have this weird relationship with 957 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 2: why are we together? 958 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 3: We're done? We are done, Carly, when what if you 959 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: have left? 960 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: I didn't hear any of the story. 961 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 3: I just got here, Wow, look at that or Jasian 962 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 3: car really how to produce? Everyone watching? Uh, she's gonna 963 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 3: do a great job. And she did come in mid episode. 964 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 3: But that's okay because put her on the spot. We're 965 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 3: putting her on the spot, We're teaching her. Okay. Update, 966 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: Hey John Ogi, hoist here. 967 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick 968 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: three minute break of ads from a sponsor's keeping the 969 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: show alive. 970 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 3: This all happened on the same night of the original post. 971 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 3: I really appreciate the comments in my previous posts, both 972 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 3: negative and positive. I generally want to take on this 973 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 3: situation with as many perspectives as I can brain that said, 974 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: this is going to disappoint most of you. 975 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, are you staying together? 976 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: They're staying together? 977 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 2: Why you literally spent this whole thing being like, I 978 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 2: think I should break up with her. 979 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: He's staying still here. Yeah, well he's staying together because, 980 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 3: like he you're afraid. 981 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: You're afraid, You're afraid. 982 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: I could not break up once again. I couldn't bring 983 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: myself to in things with her. I initiated a second 984 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: breakup last night and we ended up having a super 985 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: long talk and everything we spoke until the next day's afternoon. 986 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 3: She's clearly in distress and is fining to keep this 987 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: relationship alive, fighting very hard. She's not And it feels 988 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 3: like a like a whenever people are trying to get 989 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 3: off of drugs, like relapse in a way. Yeah, this 990 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 3: feels like he's relapsing. 991 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, well, well, I guess she said she's sorry. 992 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: I tried to break them back. It's like, no, I 993 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: tried to break up. 994 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 3: The girls said she is, well, she. 995 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: Feel really bad. I guess I can't wake up. But huh, 996 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: Wily bad h guy best friend. 997 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: No. She was persistent and reassuring me about the guy 998 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 3: best friend, saying that their relationship is entirely platonic. There 999 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: is one way to test this, Sophia. How do you 1000 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 3: test this to make sure that this guys can platonic? 1001 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 3: How do you test this multiple twice? No? But like, 1002 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 3: how would you test this? 1003 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how. 1004 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna call the guy best friend you girlfriend, 1005 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 3: and say, hey, I want to come over. Could we 1006 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 3: maybe do something saucy later? 1007 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 1008 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: Trap trap them? You got, that's the only one. 1009 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 2: Oh, drap right? Yeah? Super healthy. 1010 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 3: If he says you know you're with someone, or you 1011 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 3: know I only like you as a friend, there you go. 1012 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 3: But he says, yeah, come on over, I'm on over. 1013 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 2: I want some kiddles. Yeah, then you know, I don't 1014 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: think that's the healthiest way. I think you should just 1015 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: break up. 1016 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: She insists that nothing happened during the sleepover. They were 1017 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 3: in separate rooms, and she did a video call me 1018 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: before bed that night, as she always does. You can 1019 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: end the call and go into his room after that. 1020 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 3: That's how that works. True. She admitted she didn't realize 1021 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: how much the whole slipover thing bothered me and obviously 1022 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 3: would never do that again. She got canted. As for 1023 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 3: the babe messages, she explained that they've been calling each 1024 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 3: other that since they're were fourteen. She also mentioned to 1025 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: stop calling him babe. Gosh, I hate the word babe. 1026 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 3: Now she has also pulled back on her communication with 1027 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 3: him overall fin actual expectations. We also have to realize 1028 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 3: that they're in a log disc relationship. 1029 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. 1030 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 3: That. 1031 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important. Well, that's why I think even more so, 1032 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: you need like communication and to make sure that you're 1033 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 2: not like pushing beast these boundaries, because it is so 1034 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: easy to do that when you're in a long distance 1035 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 2: relationship because there's no one there that you're like necessarily 1036 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 2: think about twenty four to seven because you're not seeing them, 1037 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 2: you know, all the time. 1038 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 3: She told me her love for me has no financial 1039 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: requirements and that her expectations are more about building a 1040 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: future together. However, she wants a partner with a provider mindset. 1041 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: That's the most doublius. 1042 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: She apologizes to you and saying this to you right now, 1043 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 2: like it's still a backhanded apology, Like she's still you know, 1044 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: apologizing but then accusing you yes, or you know, pointing 1045 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 2: out your faults yes. 1046 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 3: While I'm essentially doing that now, I do feel like 1047 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 3: her expectations are high. She denies compare me to him, 1048 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,479 Speaker 3: but honestly, I could say there was some low key 1049 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 3: comparison at the very least my conflicted feelings. The general 1050 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 3: tone of the conversation was heard desperately trying to make 1051 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 3: this work while I kept giving myself reasons to part ways. 1052 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: Her effort and emotional investments make me feel incredibly conflicted. 1053 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 3: On one hand, I don't know if I can truly 1054 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 3: move past everything and give this relationship a proper go. 1055 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 3: On the other hand, I can tell she genuinely loves 1056 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 3: me and is willing to change for the sake of 1057 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: our future. But yeah, I'm mostly conflicted seeing how much 1058 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: she wants to work things out. Conspiracy theory. I think 1059 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: she wants to work things out because she knows she 1060 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: can't be with that other guy. 1061 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, because he is He's not around here either. 1062 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: I think you could try if you want to, if 1063 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 2: she really it seems like she really wants to work 1064 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 2: it out. She has all of these explanations. I think 1065 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 2: there might be like a couple of weeks where you 1066 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 2: guys started try and work it out and it feels 1067 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 2: a little bit better, and then it goes back to 1068 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 2: the same thing it was, and then you know, by then, yeah, 1069 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: probably best to break up. 1070 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with the guy friend, she realized like 1071 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 3: she kind of I've seen her kind of turn here. Yeah, 1072 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: well she's she's working harder for the relationship and not 1073 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 3: really giving the big guy best friend a lot of things. 1074 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 3: So she either really actually cares about the relationship or 1075 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 3: she knows she can't be with other guy. Yeah, okay, 1076 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 3: I'll give him some space. She still wants op to 1077 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 3: be him. 1078 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Courtney 1079 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 2: Electra says she wants to settle for someone she can 1080 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 2: manipulate easily. 1081 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 3: And oh, that's a good point. I didn't think about that. 1082 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1083 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's manipulated. He's trying to break up twice and 1084 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 3: she's still yeah made it. Oh man, for now, I 1085 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 3: have not officially ended things. She's packing her stuff, but 1086 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: they're still at my place. She's right now flying to 1087 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: another country for work for a week, so I'll have 1088 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: some space and time to think things over, I guess. 1089 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 3: Please be patient with me. I really do need more advice, 1090 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: but first I'm gonna take a nap. Good night, read 1091 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 3: it and thank you once again. Update number two, does 1092 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 3: he pull the trigger? 1093 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: I think I think it's on the way. Maybe they'll 1094 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 2: maybe they'll prove us wrong and they like have worked 1095 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 2: this out and are gonna fix the relationship. But I 1096 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 2: do think it's on the way right now. My guess 1097 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 2: is it's on the way to break. 1098 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 3: Up if you're in a relationship and is exhausting and 1099 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 3: it feels like yeah, and he so want. 1100 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 2: Like he keeps saying, I want to break up with her, yeah, oh, 1101 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 2: but she wants to work on it, So I feel 1102 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 2: bad You want to break up with her? 1103 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she doesn't love you for who you are? 1104 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 3: Just yeah, move on? 1105 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 2: Daring is it's not great. 1106 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 3: It's been about four days since the last update. I've 1107 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 3: been using this time and space apart from her, to 1108 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 3: think deeply. This whole situation has consumed me, affecting every 1109 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 3: aspect of my life. My diet is a mess, my 1110 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 3: skin's breaking out. I can't focus on anything. It'd be 1111 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 3: work or jim. I even curbed my will a full circle, 1112 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 3: something I've never done before. 1113 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 2: Britney be says, please end things. I wouldn't be surprised 1114 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 2: if her friend was with her. 1115 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 1116 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 2: I think it's just long distance relationships to take like 1117 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: ten times more work, and I feel like people get 1118 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: complacent and they're like, oh, well, I don't actually have 1119 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 2: to work that hard because I'm not seeing them all 1120 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 2: the time. And it's like, no, you're not seeing them 1121 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: all the time, so you need to put in the 1122 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 2: effort to like make ways to like you know, or 1123 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 2: just like make time for them. 1124 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, make an effort. As I reflect, I'm starting to 1125 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 3: understand the dynamics of a relationship more clearly. But the 1126 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 3: more I know, the more it hurts, because everything is 1127 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 3: leading me towards leading. She's been trying to reach while apart, 1128 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 3: but I've only responded with I'm not ready to talk. 1129 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: Her fly back from her work trip is tonight. I 1130 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 3: think I know what needs to be done, but do 1131 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 3: I really I still feel conflicted, especially when things get quiet. 1132 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 3: I feel her influence within me, pulling me to reasons 1133 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: to stay. One thing I can probably say, I'm lucky 1134 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 3: to have real friends who are here for me a 1135 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: few of you even personally drop me a message. I'm touched. 1136 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 2: I think go peet. My advice is, I don't think 1137 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: that you are wrong for wanting to stay with her 1138 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: and see if you know she is really you know, yeah, 1139 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 2: gotta truly try and work on this relationship. 1140 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think. 1141 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 2: However, there is a very high chance that you're gonna 1142 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 2: do that and realize that it's not working out. 1143 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 1144 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 2: However much she's trying, it's not enough. Yeah, I think 1145 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 2: that's a there's a big possibility on that. 1146 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not enough. It just you got to be 1147 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: in a relationship where someone loves you for you are. 1148 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 3: You don't have to you don't have to prove to 1149 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 3: them because you're you, yourself is already proving. Now, that 1150 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 3: doesn't give you an excuse to just be a lazy 1151 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 3: crap piece of crap. But that's not where this is. 1152 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 3: That's not the story. 1153 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story and the 1154 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 2: end of this episode. 1155 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 3: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1156 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.