1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, is the Doug gottlie Show years in the 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Bonus with Doug gottlie. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: What Up Doug Gottlieb Show and the Bonus B Sports 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Radio a radio app. You know, it's it's really interesting 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: college football and NFL football seem to on some level 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: be becoming Major League baseball. Hey what yeah? I said it. Hey, 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: welcome in. Uh we got a really really good podcast 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: hour for you. Here's what I mean. Obviously, now you 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: see the Quinn Williams trade, you see the Sauce Gardner trade, 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: and the New York Jets are playing for probably not 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: even next year, in two or three years, right, They're 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: they're gonna scrap it and start over. And now they 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: have four first five first round picks to choose from 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: our four first round picks to choose from, because Dallas 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: is an either ordeal anyway, they got there just swimming 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: in picks. And well, I'll give you a Jason McIntyre's 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: thoughts on he's the notable Jets fan who will use 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: in what the Fox said. I disagree they're gonna draft 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: another quarterback. And that's why you get a bunch of picks. 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: If you can't get it where your picks lie, Well, 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: then you use your multiple picks to trade up and 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: get the quarterback that you want. Makes sense. Gotta start over. 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: Justin Fields isn't the guy. If they thought Justin Fields 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: was the guy, then their owner wouldn't have said, we 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: got a quarterback that can't complete a pass. But you 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: look at the Jets, the Saints and the bottom of 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: the league, and maybe it's always been this way, but 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: the but the waving of the white flag on November 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: fourth and fifth. Then you look at college football and 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: the coaching firings in the SEC, Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, LSU. Right, 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: what do all those signify, Well, all of those programs 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: are not actually competitive at the end of the year. 33 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: They've gone into bowl season mode where they can run 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: trick plays because there's no real other than Petrino trying 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: to get the Arkansas job and he won't. Everybody else 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: is hey, they're just trying to put together the resume, 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: keep things as fun as possible, and get their next 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: job because those schools are cleaning house. But here's where 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: they like baseball. Baseball stats, once you get to the 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: September callups, now you got minor leaguers pitching against major leaguers, 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: and you really can't take those September lot of the 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: September game seriously because the talent on the field is 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: not top level Major League Baseball talent. It's the same 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: with the NFL with college football at the end of 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: the year with half these schools. Think of what we've 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: done to these late November games that are rivalry games, 47 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: and now some of the teams have lost half their 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: players because they're in the portal, because they fired their coach. 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't think it's good for the sport. I don't 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: think it's good for or TV. I don't think it's 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: something that we should be encouraging. College football's biggest numbers 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: in terms of watchability is in November, and now half 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: the games are not going to be competitive because teams 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: that have started out poorly have already fired their coaches. 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: And the same goes for the NFL. 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 58 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Let's get to the Fox and now say, Here's Brady Quinn, 60 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks talking about the Cardinals going 61 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: with Jacoby Brissett as their starting quarterback. 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: Some people had high expectations for them this season. I'm 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: not gonna say who those people were, but some people 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: had high expectations. 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: Crazy on me, was it? 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: You? 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: Man? I said Seattle was the dark horse for the West. 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: That's that's what she said. 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, look, everybody out here is sweating the car, 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: gimba hug for met, little shorty out here callum you know, 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: and cocktail sauce. But me, I stood stat fast. I said, 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: watch what Sam, give that man a hug for me. 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: Watch what he does when he gets out there to Seattle. 74 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: It's going to be crazy. 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 6: Great point. 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: Remember, in all seriousness, they gotta he's gonna start winning 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: some games. 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 4: It seems as though if you're able to defense an 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: offense that way with with a mobile quarterback, you have 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 4: a very very you raise your chance chances significantly of 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 4: being able to defense that team. 82 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 7: It feels to me like Jonathan Gannon looks at this 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 7: and goes, I'm twelve games under five hundred in Arizona 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 7: as a head coach. I gotta try and get this 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 7: thing turned around. I'm gonna be out of a job, 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 7: and I'd rather trust my future in the hands with 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 7: Jacoby Brissett than I would with Kyler Murray at this point. 88 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think it's basically who leads the guys better, 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: and and it's not just about who leads the guys better, 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: but who you can trust more to make the right 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: make the right throw. We have that in college basketball. 92 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: You know, I have guys that if you had a 93 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: one on one game, you're like, well, I take this 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: guy even five on five and pickup. But in order 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: to play team defense, you got to know what everybody 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: else is doing and do your job. I totally understand 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: what Jonathan Ganzou. He's like, Look, I'm going with experience 98 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: and safe rather than a higher ceiling in Caller Murray. 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: And the other part about Caller Murray is all those 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: stories wouldn't have got out if he was a great leader. 101 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Colts training for Sauce Gardner. 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 8: This is a championship caliber move because you get a 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 8: really good corner and it feels like they're all in, 104 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 8: and why wouldn't you be. I think the Colts have 105 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 8: to look around and go the AFC is open like 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 8: the Chiefs may not make the playoffs, and then you 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 8: got the Buffalo Bills. They didn't make any moves. I 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 8: was really surprised. I thought Buffalo was going to make 109 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 8: some moves. Here you stumble into Daniel Jones. I mean, 110 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 8: you were really really It's almost like what the Niners 111 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 8: did with brock Purty. You screwed up Trey Lance and 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 8: then brock perty came in and saved you. You screwed 113 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 8: up Anthony Richardson, and now you got Danny Dimes to 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 8: help save the day. And you got to look at 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 8: this and say, we can not only win our division, 116 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 8: we can win the AFC. And I like the thinking 117 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 8: you're all in. You prove that, and that's believability in 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 8: Daniel Jones that he is your quarterback. And to add 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 8: that to your defense. I thought it was a great 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 8: move for them if they felt that's the one piece 121 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 8: that we really needed. 122 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: It also signifies, with the two the trades, that the 123 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: Jets have smartly packed it in and are playing for 124 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: the future. It does make you wonder in terms of 125 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner granted, drafted by a different general manager than 126 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: the one who traded him, but it does make you 127 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: wonder if there's something missing and that's going to get 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: exposed when he gets to the higher level against with 129 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: the Colts. Here's Jason McIntyre filling in for Colin Cowhard 130 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: talking about the Jets. 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 9: Let me go to my hometown roots, the New York 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 9: Jets and folks, it's been a long time since we've 133 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 9: had anything to cheer about. And then on NFL trade 134 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 9: deadline Day, it becomes basically the greatest day in franchise 135 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 9: history for anyone under the age of fifty. Obviously, you 136 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 9: know the Jets one with Joe Namath the way back 137 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 9: in the day. Colin loves to reference those days. I 138 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 9: don't I don't know them. They're foreign to me. So 139 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 9: as a Jets fan, the reason I'm celebrating is the trades. 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 9: You know, it wasn't working with the defensive strategy, as 141 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 9: is often the case in the NFL. We'll talk about 142 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 9: that later with a couple of great guests, but they're 143 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 9: going offense and they have moved off Sauce Gardner, the 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 9: great cornerback who was an All Pro in his first 145 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 9: two seasons, and Quinn William he shipped to Dallas. Folks, 146 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 9: it is a celebratory day. If you're a Jets fan, 147 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 9: this season's gonna be tough. I saw one of these 148 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 9: who won the trades. The twenty twenty five Jets are 149 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 9: listed as losers. They're gonna stake this season. 150 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: We're one and seven. 151 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 9: Yes, I could say we and maybe we win a 152 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 9: couple games, but it's not about this year. It's for 153 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 9: the future, because folks, we rich. We got a war 154 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 9: chest of picks. 155 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: In the next two drafts. 156 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. They're moving 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: off of a defensive mentality, Like, no, they're not. They're 158 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: they're trading away guys who are set to make gigantic 159 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: money in contract extensions and getting a volume of picks 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: so they can draft their next quarterback and completely remake 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: their roster. Has nothing to do with an offensive or 162 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: defensive mentality. It has to do with the fact that 163 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: they haven't won a game, or they won they won 164 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: a game, whatever, None of it matters. They just want 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: to get a dearth of picks and then my next 166 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: guest would be at some point they'll probably trade those 167 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: first round picks one try and bundle it to get 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: the quarterback that they want and then two. If the 169 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: owner comes out and says, uh, quarterback just needs to 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: complete a pass, he's telling you that's not my guy. 171 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: So you're gonna draft one next year. Eventually he'll beat 172 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: out Justin Fields or you'll move off Justin Fields, and 173 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: then you'll have your next quarterback. And then with the 174 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: rest of the first round picks, they may take one more, 175 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: but they'll probably trade them for second round picks and 176 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: third round picks and just get a depth of picks 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: in a hole and they're starting over. That's what they're doing. 178 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: That's what the Fox said, do say. 179 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 180 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: Let's find out who are What's annoying Jason Stewart. 183 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying. 184 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 6: Hey, Doug. I'm gonna say this is a Disney Verse 185 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 6: Google thing, because I want people to know that these 186 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 6: are two massive corporations worth trillions of dollars that are 187 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 6: putting consumers that make you, know, your common wage, they're 188 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 6: taking away their entertainment. Disney Verse Google, this is not 189 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 6: a YouTube TV versus ESPN thing. I want to offer 190 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 6: up a couple perspectives here. I think each of them 191 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 6: have value. Mike Flourio for all you haters out there 192 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 6: who kind of think he's maybe too woke or two 193 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 6: player friendly or whatever. He's been all over this, like 194 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 6: from the second this was going to be a thing, 195 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 6: and he offers up this, if you. 196 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 10: Truly care about the people who allow you to exist, 197 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 10: get the deal done. It doesn't make any sense. It 198 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 10: does from the standpoint of playing this game of corporate 199 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 10: tug of war with millions, if not billions, on the line. 200 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 10: But you're going to get a deal done someday. Get 201 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 10: it done today. It would be a great gesture to 202 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 10: all of us who are paying you a lot of 203 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 10: money every month for your products. If you would set 204 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 10: aside your differences, go into a room, negotiate until you 205 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 10: get a deal done. Make it happen, YouTube TV, Make 206 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 10: it happen, ESPN, Make it happen. Disney, for all of 207 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 10: your customers out there who are waiting to watch football again. 208 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 6: An annoying thing that's happened this week is that all 209 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: the hosts on Disney properties, so we're talking about Good 210 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 6: Morning in America and then all the ESPN shows have 211 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: been compelled to read this script that says head over 212 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 6: to keepmnetworks dot com. Well, it's a very heavily slanted 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 6: Disney agenda because if you head over to keepmnetworks dot com, 214 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 6: it basically blames YouTube, TV and Google for holding this up. 215 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 6: This is both of their faults. I'm not going to 216 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 6: I'm not going to weigh in on one way or 217 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 6: the other. But Pat McAfee, to his credit, went against 218 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: the grain refused to read the script and then took 219 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 6: it to another level. 220 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 11: We're all done with it. Okay, figure, we're all done 221 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 11: with it. And also, if you're on TV, stop telling 222 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 11: people to go to a website to save a multi 223 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 11: billion dollar deal. Okay, nobody cares what you have to say. 224 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 11: We there will be nothing that we say or any 225 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 11: website that'll be visited that'll get this thing. There are 226 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 11: I don't wanna say the exact names, but these people. 227 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 6: Spar sorts though, Yeah, spar sorts out for good. 228 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 11: Sports need each other. A lot of people saying greedy corporate, 229 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 11: greedy corporate. It's like, yeah, need each other, especially with 230 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 11: where sports are right now, and we're in the middle 231 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 11: of it. 232 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: So let's get that done. Let's get that done now. 233 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 11: So I'm asking me to go to a website. 234 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to work. 235 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 5: I don't know. 236 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 11: I don't want to do that, So stop at all. Yeah, 237 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 11: reality of the world. Yeah, all you're doing is pissing 238 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 11: everybody off even more so it's like, let's just not 239 00:12:59,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 11: do that. 240 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 12: So good thing. 241 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 6: You think. 242 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: You think what Pat McAfee's doing is a good thing. 243 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 6: I think it takes balls to not read the script 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: that Disney's compelling the host to read and say. 245 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: I'll just tell you right now. Again. It takes balls 246 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: only because they obviously feel like they can't fire him. 247 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: It's a firebole offense to anybody else. It spirable pens 248 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: just you understand about Pat, and I think Pat's talented. 249 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: This is what he does. Everywhere he goes, he goes 250 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: somewhere something makes him mad. He goes on air, okay, 251 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: and everybody fucking hates not the guys that work for him, 252 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: but any company he's been with has bought him out 253 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: before his contract's over because he just blows it up 254 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: with shit like this, Like this is one of those 255 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: He's not wrong, but he's wrong. If you don't fucking 256 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: like Disney or how they do business, you shouldn't be 257 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: working for fucking Disney. You shouldn't have sold your production 258 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: company's rights to Disney. And the least you can fucking 259 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: do when you're probably the second highest paid guy there 260 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: is go, hey, they asked me to do this shit. 261 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I do this shit. That's because he's a fucking kicker, 262 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: not a teammate. I gotta tell you. It's an awful 263 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: look awful awful. You may think Jason that again, and 264 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: I've I don't mind the as you know, like I've 265 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: ruffled feathers, Like just because we work in the same 266 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: company doesn't mean I can't call you out on bullshit. 267 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: But there's certainly things that when you represent a company, 268 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: like what are you doing? What are you fucking doing? 269 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: Couldn't disagree with you more? Yeah, is it annoying? The 270 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: carriage dispute, Yes, these's been going on in perpetuity forever. 271 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: And ESPN has every right to go like, hey, we're 272 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: gonna hold the line and hold our price and Google 273 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: on YouTube, they have every right. That's fucking business. And 274 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: who suffers? People suffer, and what happens in the meantime 275 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: is they'll there'll be somebody some other device that will 276 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: be or cable service or direct TV or somebody or 277 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: some streaming service or fuck even the hack stuff, you 278 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: know where you get dudes bootlegging ways. They'll they'll find 279 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: ways to watch their football games. But when you work 280 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: for a company and they're in a dispute with another company, 281 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: you have two choices. Either stay out of it and 282 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: say nothing, or support the cause. Instead, you've taken the 283 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: opposite tacked. I'm just telling you, Jason, like the truth 284 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: about Pat, and I don't know Pat. I have no 285 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: problem with Pat. I can tell you that a lot 286 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: that people can't fucking stand him, that have worked with him, 287 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: can't stand him. Go back and track through it, and 288 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: in many ways, it's like he wants to get fired, 289 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: he wants to get bought out, to go find the 290 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: next spot, to go, think the next thing, to go 291 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: do the next thing. So I just think it's being 292 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: a terrible teammate to everybody else who works at Disney. 293 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been reporting even in recent weeks about how 294 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 6: ESPN higher ups and producers are sick of his shit, 295 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: And you're right, But I think there's just we talk 296 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: about this with Aaron Rodgers. There's something admirable about somebody 297 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 6: who has full autonomy, who has fuck you money or 298 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 6: a fuck you situation where if you don't want me, 299 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 6: I could find the next corporation to pay me a 300 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 6: bunch of money and then I'll piss them off. I 301 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: think it's admirable. But what annoys me about this is 302 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: that we have mega corporations squabbling and people that just 303 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: want to mind like a common wage and watch their 304 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 6: Monday night football couldn't do it on Monday night, including me, 305 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: and I really thought this would be ended by the 306 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 6: time live NFL games started. 307 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: You and Me, both you and Me, both. 308 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 6: The top ten rated shows on TV I think for 309 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: the past ten years have been live NFL games. I 310 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: just can't believe they did that. So Jean Morant is 311 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: annoying for a while. The reasons I think he has 312 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 6: served his one game suspension. 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: Or yeah, yep. 314 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 6: The cool thing about John Moran is that it's brought 315 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 6: out like future Hall of Famers, you know, new TV types, 316 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: So Blake Griffin and Carmelo. I think Blake's on the 317 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 6: Amazon product and Carmelo's on NBC. This is Carmelo on jaw. 318 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: Joah has to man up. He's been through all of 319 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: this before. You're being tested again to see if you're 320 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 5: gonna fold up. You're gonna stand and tested time. The 321 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 5: coaches is testing you, the organization is testing you, the city, 322 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: the fans is testing you. For me, how are you 323 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: gonna bounce back? How are you gonna move on from this? 324 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: How are you going to own up? 325 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 13: Man? 326 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: Uplook yourself in the mirrors, take ownership to your part, 327 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 5: and still go out there and do what you gotta do. 328 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: Put your big boy pants on. Let's go play basketball, man. 329 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 6: Put your big boy pants on. And then Blake Griffin, 330 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 6: this is before the suspension. I think over the week. 331 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: Because this is the part that I saw after they 332 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: lost to the Lakers. 333 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 7: But what did you see from John Moran? 334 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: Blake? 335 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 13: I didn't love what I saw from John Moran tonight. 336 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 13: I mean, this is a guy who is insanely talented. 337 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 13: I mean, right here, speed is his number one weapon. 338 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 13: And coming off a ball screen, passing the ball like 339 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 13: this kind of lazily cutting to the corner, that's just 340 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 13: not what's going to get it done for Memphis. And 341 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 13: now the back cut I think you've got to go 342 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 13: for that right there, and then the very next possession 343 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 13: coming down and you're kind of just standing in the 344 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 13: corner straight up, not even really engaged at all, almost 345 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 13: having a conversation with Marcus Smart, Like for a guy 346 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 13: that's making forty million dollars and needs to be the 347 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 13: leader of this team, Like, I just don't love it. 348 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 13: I don't know if he was not feeling well, if 349 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 13: he's hurt, but that to me is a very bad 350 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 13: sign and it's something that needs to it has to change. Yes, 351 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 13: the Memphis Grizzlies will only go as far as Jean 352 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 13: Moran takes it. And when he's engaged, I mean, we've 353 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 13: seen it. He's unbelievable. He's an all world talent. But 354 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 13: that type of effort right there, that's the thing that 355 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 13: we will call out and Ud, you are an effort guy. 356 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 13: The Miami he is an effort organization. I know, I 357 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 13: know you would have had something to say if you 358 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 13: were on that team right there and you saw that have. 359 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 6: So Jean Moran's annoying. He saidgestion that that the joy 360 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 6: for basketball is gone, but at the very least it's 361 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 6: brought out some pretty good takes from former ballers that 362 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 6: we hadn't seen do TV work. 363 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: No question, I thought Blake Griffin was really prepared, and 364 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: then he the way in which he sold it was 365 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: really good in that he didn't he didn't do the 366 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: stephen A over the top stuff. This is that, This 367 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: is how, this is what it looks like when you're 368 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: in a film room. When you're not You're you're being 369 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: confrontation without being confrontational, like, Hey, what's the best thing 370 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: you do? You turned the corner with great speed? Are 371 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: you doing that here? 372 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 6: Like? 373 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: Are you sick? Are you hurt? What's going on? It 374 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: was absolutely brilliant television for a guy who's new into 375 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: the analyst space. But again, this is all reports were. 376 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: The previous staff got fired because they couldn't figure out 377 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: John Morant, and this staff is they're they're doing a 378 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: our way or the high and right now he's towards 379 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: the highway. My son's one of the biggest jam Moran 380 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: fans out there. He texted me like, Dad, is Ja 381 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: Moran a clown? I was like, kinda feels like it 382 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: feels like it sad though, because he's so talented and 383 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: he was so likable. At Murray State in his early 384 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: years in the NBA. But the off court stuff, the 385 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: gunst the gun stuff, who he's hanging around, and the 386 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: suspensions and now the attitude stuff is a is a 387 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: major turn off. 388 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 6: Chris mad Dog Russo, what was he screaming about yesterday? 389 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 6: He was screaming about. Uh, Joe Davis is was the 390 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 6: play by playman for the World Series. Joe Davis is 391 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: a play by playman for the Dodgers. Though he didn't 392 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: do a lot of games this year, he has been 393 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: with the Dodgers for many years. 394 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 7: Well. 395 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 6: Uh, he mc the celebration thing at Dodgers Stadium the 396 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 6: other day, and Chris Russo did not like that. 397 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 12: When you're a national broadcaster and you're the voice of 398 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 12: the sport on it big stage, when you did a 399 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 12: million playoff games and then the one of the crippling 400 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 12: mousses that a franchise is gonna have. And I got 401 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 12: Shoe Basic and the body's not even cold yet, and 402 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 12: I got show at Dodger Stadion doing a freaking Dodger parade. 403 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 12: I got Joe Davis shaking everybody's hand. Give me a 404 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 12: freak yomam shaking, freaking Tani's hand and he's freaking whack. 405 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 12: He's getting rings. That is you could say, I'm being hard. 406 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 12: That's ridiculous, Chris, what's the big deal he dusted games? Nonsense. 407 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 12: He's the voice of the World Series. He's supposed to 408 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 12: be right down in the middle. Obviously, he's mooting his 409 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 12: ass off for the Dodgers in the World Series. And 410 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 12: everybody who I spoke to hated the idea. They sensed 411 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 12: he was looking the Dodgers bought the World Series and 412 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 12: has called the end was ridiculous. 413 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 6: One counterpoint, one counterpoint. Mad Dog Vin Scully was the 414 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 6: national play by play announcer for the eighty eight series, 415 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: and he was the MC for the eighty eight parade. 416 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean it's it's it's classic mad Dog. 417 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's let me let me say something which 418 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: is seems like it's controversial and kind of makes a 419 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: good point, but it lacks Hey wait, I remember the 420 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Vince Kelly call. Wasn't he on the call? And he's 421 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: the dodgers most famous play by play guy? Ever? Yeah, 422 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think anybody in the real world cares. 423 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: Who's the MC for the victory Parade? He's the voice 424 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: of the Dodgers. He's the voice of MLB on Fox. Yeah, 425 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: I got nothing for. 426 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 6: You, So mad Dog, the Jahn Morant situation, and then 427 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: disney Verse google. 428 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: What's the most important Pat McAfee. Yeah, I'm gonna go, 429 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: what's the most annoying McAfee, John Morant or Mad Dog? 430 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: I'll go Ja Morant. And I think John Morant's the 431 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: most annoying because I like Ja Morant so much, but 432 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: I hate what happened to him and who he seems 433 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: to have decided to be come and for that John 434 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: ran Yahn. 435 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? 436 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: I do. 437 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: Because we can it. 438 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: Doug keyk Hernandez a big fan favorite over here, and 439 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 6: he won that Dodger celebration that was MC by Joe 440 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 6: Davis kyk won the celebration and he made this segment 441 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: doing this, and I. 442 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 7: Want to take this time to apologize to absolutely fucking. 443 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Out. I do like some keyk Hernandez, who I told 444 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: you only apparently plays baseball in the playoffs for the Dodgers. 445 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: Dodgers when he's making big plays, why I could we 446 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: play it for you? Because we can't. That's it for 447 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: the end of the Modes podcast. Check out the radio 448 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: show three to five eastern, twelve two Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, 449 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio App. I'm Doug Gottlieb