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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you

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Speaker 1: have a very very special guest.

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Speaker 3: The beloved Ellen Ellen. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: We love you, I love you, Tisons and Kathy, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh Ellen, it's so always so great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Particularly you and I are such a strong bond because

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Speaker 2: we are the pickleball champions from our season. I'm never

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Speaker 2: going to live it down. I want to know are

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Speaker 2: you still playing pick a ball? How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Tell me that, yeah, I'll continue playing. Right now, I'm

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Speaker 4: a little injured, but other than that, I'm okay. I'm

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Speaker 4: waiting to get healed up and go back on the court.

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Speaker 4: Still playing, also still playing.

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Speaker 1: Now, how often did you play pickleball?

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Speaker 2: Like, what is.

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Speaker 4: Or to your injury four times a week?

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Speaker 3: That's pickleball? And what's it like being a captain?

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Speaker 2: You know, you always kept saying you're the captain of

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Speaker 2: your team in Florida? What does that mean to be

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Speaker 2: the captain?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Do you plan the teams? How does it work well?

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Speaker 4: On the funny side, if I wasn't the captain, probably

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't have a team.

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Speaker 3: Because it's still controlling these I.

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Speaker 4: Wanted a team for my community in a division that

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Speaker 4: was too difficult, not too easy, you know, something right

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Speaker 4: in the middle.

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Speaker 2: And Susan's right, it's about control.

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Speaker 3: But do you do the scheduling and everything? You schedule

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Speaker 3: the game?

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Speaker 4: It's a real it's a real sanctioned league where there's

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Speaker 4: four hundred members and it's throughout all South Florida. And

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Speaker 4: it's really an amazing way that they function with like

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Speaker 4: ten twelve divisions and then eight teams and with the

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Speaker 4: ten teams in a division and they just they do

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Speaker 4: the countains to check these scoring and it's really a

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Speaker 4: really big deal and work for the there's a lot

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Speaker 3: Is it all female or is it male and female? Female?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in another league that's a co ed league,

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Speaker 4: and that's I don't have to do anything because I'm

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Speaker 4: a captain. I love that week because I just so played.

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Speaker 3: So do you meet new people?

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Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, Well, the funniest is when you

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Speaker 4: go to other communities and you run to someone that

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Speaker 4: migrating to Florida from New York, you know, so I

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Speaker 4: met like six or seven oh god, maybe more people

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Speaker 2: Wait, that must be really fun. Any good guys that

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Speaker 4: Yes, there was one, but he's married.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's happen.

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Speaker 4: His his wife is very very nice.

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Speaker 2: I just want I just want to focus on one

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Speaker 2: thing that you said at the beginning of this show,

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Speaker 2: which was you've been a little injured and you're coming back.

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Speaker 2: That is what we're about, right as we get older,

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Speaker 2: we were things happened, but we're still getting back out.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to applaud you that you've had

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it's just you know, a really bit so our hips,

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Speaker 4: you know, I you know, think about the whole premise

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Speaker 4: of why I got on the show with Roberta, and

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Speaker 4: that's something that you can't fix. Yes, so I'm so

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Speaker 4: rateful that I have is so fixable. Yet pall that habit.

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Speaker 4: In a short time, they're back on the court again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the positive energy. Yeah, that's the positive energy.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the show, Ellen, give us a couple of

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Speaker 2: your favorite memories from the show besides meeting Susan and me.

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Speaker 2: Of course, well I know.

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Speaker 4: Weapiently that's definitely a big plus. But Kathy, you're in

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Speaker 2: I have to say, Oh, dear, Okay, go for it time.

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Speaker 4: It was good that winning the pickaball activity was so

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Speaker 4: much fun, just having fun, getting excited, cheering everybody on,

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Speaker 4: shooting the champagne all over the place, having you as

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're so sweet.

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Speaker 4: It was really a great time. But better than that, sorry, Katy,

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Speaker 4: the princess date in the balloon and.

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Speaker 2: The well, yeah, excuse me, where are those diamond earrings?

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Speaker 2: I still want? She got about everyone needs to know.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember I tried to keep I tried to

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Speaker 2: steal them from you. Every time I say, Ellen, can

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Speaker 2: I borrow those errings?

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Speaker 4: I just try them on. I said, if I gave,

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Speaker 4: I would never get them back.

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Speaker 1: But you did share a lot of the clothing that

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Speaker 1: you were given from that Princess Date. I will say that.

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Speaker 1: Remember the heels that I couldn't even walk in? Who

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Speaker 1: has those, Edith? I believe she could walk in them?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Can I just wait? Can I just say one thing?

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Speaker 2: You got tons of clothes, Ellen, You've got these fabulous earrings.

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Speaker 2: Susan got like a frame photograph and a piece of

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Speaker 2: pink horse whatever you all got kids? I just whatever, quartz.

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Speaker 2: You know what I got, A big fat zero. Just

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Speaker 2: want to put that out there again, that I wasn't

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Speaker 2: the Princess Date. I didn't get. I didn't get.

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Speaker 3: I got the zip and you own it, right, I told.

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Speaker 2: You that's what I did, zip it exactly. Anyway, I

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Speaker 2: think we should talk about our topic of the day.

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Speaker 2: What do you say?

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Speaker 1: I have a good question for her, Ellen, What have

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Speaker 1: you learned that you either need more of or less

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Speaker 1: of about love after being on the show?

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Speaker 3: What have you learned?

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Speaker 4: A good questions? I learned that you don't want to

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Speaker 4: be with anyone if you can't be yourself. Yes, And honestly,

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Speaker 4: I get more pleasure out of just being comfortable in

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Speaker 4: a situation now where I don't have to pretend to

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Speaker 4: be someone I'm not where I used to be afraid

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Speaker 4: of that. You know, I had a few learning disabilities

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Speaker 4: in third grade. And little things like that stay with you,

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Speaker 4: and as you get older, they don't really go away.

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Speaker 4: They just manifest itself in other ways. And The Bachelor,

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Speaker 4: believe it or not, at the age of seventy, actually

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Speaker 4: helped to change that and made me feel that why

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Speaker 4: would I want to be with anyone that wouldn't accept

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Speaker 2: Totally?

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Speaker 4: Is a lot everybody has faults and a lot of

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Speaker 4: things about people that I've loved that I didn't accept

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Speaker 4: that really needed to change the behaviors. Well, sometimes they

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Speaker 4: could and sometimes they couldn't, but it depended how important

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Speaker 2: That is a prevailing thought. We had spoken with Nancy

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Speaker 2: that didn't want to date because she had some health issues,

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Speaker 2: and you're talking about learning issues again. I think being

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Speaker 2: looking for people who accept us who we are, that's

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Speaker 2: one of the things that separates us from the younger crowd. Truly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at this point we've accomplished most of

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Speaker 4: just be ourselves and enjoy that part, you know, then

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Speaker 4: and enjoy the people we're with. Like, I'm pretty selective

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Speaker 4: about the friends I pick. I'm selective about Susan.

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Speaker 2: We should feel greatful.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could be selective about them.

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Speaker 2: Then, I think, but that's the next question.

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Speaker 3: What are you looking for in a partner now?

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Speaker 1: And has it changed what you were looking for before

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Speaker 1: the show? Have you learned anything about what you're seeking?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I was a people pleaser, and now I want

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Speaker 1: Please meet amen, sister, and not an exciting way, not.

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Speaker 4: In a way that we both can benefit and like, like,

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Speaker 4: especially Kathy sticks in my head. I want a dor

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Speaker 4: you know. I don't want to sit her.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to count I used to guy to guys.

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Speaker 4: I love that and I'm so glad you reminded me

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Speaker 4: of that because I want someone that is not I

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Speaker 4: And you know, I know we're older, I know we

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Speaker 4: get injured, I know the things slow down. But it

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Speaker 4: could be as simple as enjoying the same kind of movie.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to all be activity, you know, saying

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Speaker 4: just commonality. And I don't have commonality with somebody. Well

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Speaker 4: that's what happened, you know, very misleading. I went out

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Speaker 4: I mean I was sort of I was sort of happy,

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Speaker 4: do everything that I want to do, but the attention

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Speaker 4: pretty much how to be centered around him.

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Speaker 2: And that's I think you're saying that, Ellen. It's it's

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Speaker 2: you're not going to settle at this stage.

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Speaker 4: I want to be shared, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also you saw that as a red flag

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Speaker 2: and you didn't. I think when we were younger, we

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Speaker 2: didn't even try it. I think good on you.

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Speaker 4: For me, I recently met a guy recently that's very

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Speaker 4: sweet and kind and fun and nice, and you know

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Speaker 4: there's possibilities there. I'm going to see him in not

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Speaker 1: Well, so can I ask you, Ellen? Are you on

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Speaker 1: a dating site? Is that how you met him? Or

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Speaker 4: The first one was through pickleball friends through the league.

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Speaker 4: Actually one of the other teams from another league suggested it.

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Speaker 4: And then uh, this second person is somebody that I

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Speaker 4: met in a restaurant gathering. It was to promote the restaurant,

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Speaker 4: so I was invited to go there, not as not

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Speaker 4: as Ellen goes back, just just as Ellen's friends, you know,

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Speaker 4: And it just happened that, you know, he came over

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Speaker 4: and said hello, and it was very casual.

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Speaker 2: So you know what I'm hearing here, Ellen? You you

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Speaker 2: are doing what I wish more women and men our

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Speaker 2: go out and you do things and you look and

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Speaker 2: when you get out and put yourself out there, people

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Speaker 2: come into your life. It's I think that is uh amazing.

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Speaker 4: What's really important is what really is important is the

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Speaker 4: to find the people that like to do it too.

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Speaker 4: So I don't really love the bar scene. I didn't

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Speaker 4: I know if a friend says I know someone that

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Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? I think we all feel the same way.

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Speaker 3: And as the show for get it right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, not because they're not good. And some people.

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Speaker 4: A lot of my fam are married through dating sites.

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Speaker 3: I marry so many couples that have met on dating

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Speaker 5: My son that just got married and he formed the ceremony.

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Speaker 4: I was very confident with the person I was married

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Speaker 4: And we've been friends for you know, forever, since ten

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 4: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Because she put you, she recommended you for the show.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yes, she didn't recommend me. What she did was

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Speaker 4: She said, oh my god, my life, because it was

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Speaker 1: Nothing out of nowhere. You've been in this place before,

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Speaker 4: Never remember seeing it. I've been there a few times

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Speaker 2: It's so it's so funny, you know, No, it's it's

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Speaker 2: I I honestly believe that those things happen. As you know, Ellen,

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Speaker 1: She's always with you, Ellen, Yeah, and she'll always be

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Speaker 1: bringing back the show. Just for a quick second, there's

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind sharing.

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Speaker 3: It's hysterical. Do you remember the night that you got

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Speaker 2: This would be called Ellen's bloopers.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, share that with us again.

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh gosh, what happened? Was? You know? I always

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah, we go often. Yes.

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Speaker 4: So it's like three o'clock in the morning and I

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Speaker 3: Whatever and doing your thing nothing, and.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I see this person walking in,

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Speaker 3: You're like no, And I went no.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, she aged twenty years scared the light telling

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Speaker 4: Scared I said, in the bleep blooper, whatever, I said,

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Speaker 2: That's why wait, wait, can I just say sleep away

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Speaker 2: we don't know what was going on in that bug.

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Speaker 1: Raway listen to her co ed sleep away Kim, different campuses.

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Speaker 3: I was getting nervous.

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Speaker 1: Were you with the boys as.

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Speaker 4: We got older, we weren't angels. We will be the counselors.

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Speaker 2: Then, So wait a minute, Ellen, Ellen, you have children.

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Speaker 2: I know you do. Given your sordid, colorful past, I

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Speaker 2: would like to know what dating advice you've given your kids?

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Speaker 4: What what?

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Speaker 2: What dating advice have you given your kids? Your sons?

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Speaker 2: What dating advice?

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Speaker 4: Well, they did pretty good on their own. I'm not

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Speaker 2: That was the next part of the question.

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Speaker 3: What is it the same for you?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think being a boy or a man is

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Speaker 1: I gave some serious dating advice, and I want to

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Speaker 1: give your advice wear a raincoat boys, and what no

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Speaker 2: I did not tell my daughter to not wear a.

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Speaker 1: Daughter, I said, son, Kathy, Son, you didn't tell them

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't teacher. Okay, they pretty much know all the

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Speaker 2: Event what did you do, Ellen, get out of banana

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Speaker 4: That was only when I went high school. I didn't

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Speaker 4: you know, I can't tell you something else.

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Speaker 3: I oh, come on, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no one's listening, Ellen, it's just just three here.

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Speaker 4: Please please for Gambe school for talking about this book.

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Speaker 4: I did the banana when I was teaching a ninth

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Speaker 4: Oh god, it's so embarrassing. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: ninth period, one of the kids must not have beaten

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Speaker 4: lunch or something schult. I know it's weird, but it

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Speaker 4: is like has appeal and I'm really hungry.

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Speaker 3: Did I have that?

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Speaker 4: And everybody's like, oh.

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Speaker 3: Well, you appeel it.

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Speaker 4: The all I know is that I just tell them

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Speaker 4: not so much about that, because they know that's my thing.

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Speaker 4: I tell them just to be themselves and make sure

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Speaker 4: the person that there with is themselves, and that's how

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Speaker 4: the connection starts.

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Speaker 1: I got to share One of my favorite moments with

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Speaker 1: Ellen was at the Talent show that poem that that

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Speaker 1: that funny when you talked about the kids that you

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Speaker 1: were teaching and sex ed I just I enjoyed that all.

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Speaker 4: The nicest compliment I ever got was actually from you, Susan,

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Speaker 4: when you said I would actually have paid to see

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Speaker 4: that I did. I was like, Wow, maybe that's I'm

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Speaker 4: your kay.

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Speaker 2: Do you miss Ellen? Do you miss teaching?

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Speaker 4: I missed teaching, but I love retirement, so you can't

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Speaker 4: have both. I mean I could, but it's not the same.

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Speaker 4: So I love retirement as much as I love teaching,

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Speaker 4: so I don't miss it. I just really enjoyed it,

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Speaker 4: and my professional life was terrific. It was amazing, very

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Speaker 4: very lucky.

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Speaker 2: You are.

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Speaker 3: What do you think? Is it game time yet?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ellen, we want to play a little relationship game

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Speaker 2: of would you rather? Okay, you're ready?

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Speaker 4: Is this anything like the ice cream game? No?

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Speaker 2: This is never have I ever know? This is not

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Speaker 2: this is what it's about dating?

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Speaker 3: But can we just say something about them? Never have

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Speaker 3: I ever? I had never heard of that game.

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Speaker 4: I certainly acted like you did.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was eating ice cream that got me out

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Speaker 3: of the pool. Ellen was hungry. But what I've never heard?

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Speaker 2: I heard it. It's like they do like spin the

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Speaker 2: bottle its all, and that kind of spin the bottle, Well, Ellen,

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Speaker 2: do you remember when we did play that game. I

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Speaker 2: I'd never done anything. I'd never done any of the

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Speaker 2: things they said. I was like, I felt like path

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Speaker 2: was like this.

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Speaker 1: No, no, if we're talking about faces, priceless, priceless. In

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Speaker 1: my entire life, I've never seen such a priceless face.

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Speaker 1: When Leslie got up at the Talent show to do

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Speaker 1: her dance, you and Theresa was next to you had

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Speaker 1: that little teeny tiny cowboy.

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Speaker 3: She's like, I'm shocked.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not a damsel like Leslie? What

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Speaker 2: can I say?

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Speaker 3: So funny your face? I loved it. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: We'll get back to the game.

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Speaker 2: Were going back to the game, because never have I

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Speaker 2: ever Yeah, came up, Never have I ever? Okay, So,

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Speaker 2: in a partner, Ellen, would you like a guy who

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Speaker 2: has in a partner that you know, a man, a guy,

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Speaker 2: your dating partner.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm wearing a park if.

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Speaker 2: You're in Florida, no one's wearing winter coats. Partner, partner,

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Speaker 2: have you I have the same hobbies as your partner

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Speaker 2: or different hobbies? Would you want you guys to do

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Speaker 2: the same things, same or different hobbies?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Tell me why?

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Speaker 4: Because if I'm truly with this partner. I would hope,

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Speaker 4: especially as a required partner, I would hope that we

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00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: had as much in common as possible because it's not

510
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Speaker 4: going to work for eight hours and coming home it's

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Speaker 4: twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I bet you and I we need our

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Speaker 2: little bit of alone time.

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Speaker 4: I don't say that you said it. Would you like

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Speaker 4: the hobbies to be the same. I would like some

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Speaker 4: things that I do not to be exactly what he does.

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Speaker 1: But oh, okay, lot com Okay, all right, and that

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Speaker 1: goes with everybody. They should have my manicure time and

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Speaker 1: all my spot on the one hobby I'm not sharing cooking.

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Speaker 2: I want to do it all myself. Ellen, I don't cook.

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Speaker 2: It was a joke, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Ellen, and Kathy, what would mean more to you

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Speaker 1: a good morning text or a good night text?

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Speaker 2: You mean getting one? Yes, okay?

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Speaker 4: What do you say on good mornings? And the first

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Speaker 4: thing he thinks so when he wakes up?

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Speaker 3: I like it?

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Speaker 2: And you know what, just to be difficult, A good

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Speaker 2: night text means on the last thing he thinks of

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Speaker 2: before he goes to bed, and he's gonna have a

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Speaker 2: nice dream about.

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Speaker 1: Me, Okay, I want both. I'm just saying I want both,

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Speaker 1: and if he doesn't send me one in the morning,

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Speaker 1: I'll send him one.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm good like that. But it's nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to hear from somebody when they wake

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Speaker 1: up or the last thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So basically, this guy is not going to be

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Speaker 2: doing anything but texting.

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Speaker 3: Us all day.

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Speaker 2: All right, I've got a good one here, and this

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Speaker 2: one is especially close to me because Ellen, I think

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Speaker 2: you know this. Susan married my son and his fiance

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Speaker 2: just a few weeks ago, and my son, if he's listening,

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Speaker 2: I love my son, Kyle. But the guy cannot dance.

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Speaker 2: He's got like lead feet. He and his fance took

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Speaker 2: dance lessons for like eight months, and he wouldn't tell us.

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Speaker 2: We thought they were in counseling. We didn't know what

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Speaker 2: they were doing, fertility treatments. We didn't know for eight

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Speaker 2: months they were taking dance lessons. So here's the question.

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Speaker 3: Such a good job he did.

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Speaker 2: I was so proud of him. Okay, would you take

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Speaker 2: with your Parka or your partner? Would you take a

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Speaker 2: dance class together or do karaoke together?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: I went out with someone for three years and we

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Speaker 4: actually did dance lessons. I think it was the most

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Speaker 4: horrifying experience of my life. Well are you Sam dancing?

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Speaker 4: And I sucked at it? I had to count in

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Speaker 4: my head. I don't know if you listen, I had

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Speaker 4: something to do with it, but.

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Speaker 2: Six for the box out to.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I love carrying and I all myself I

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Speaker 4: love that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but wait, are you going to do it with

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Speaker 2: your partner? What if you can't sing? What if you

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Speaker 2: can't sing?

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Speaker 4: I can't sing him?

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Speaker 2: That was just the detail, all right.

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Speaker 1: One last question for you Ellen. Do you tell your

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Speaker 1: date a white lie to spare his feelings or would

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Speaker 1: you share the truth even if it hurt his feelings?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Susan, that's hard because I really don't it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a white lie. It's we're not talking, you know,

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Speaker 2: criminal defense here, a white lie.

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Speaker 4: Something that wasn't substantial that really upset me, you know,

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Speaker 4: or sent him like something an ounce that he hadn't

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Speaker 4: you know, and he loved it. I would say it

579
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Speaker 4: looks very nice on you, even though it was terrible,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: I would say it after that night, maybe say honey,

582
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Speaker 1: that's kind of out of style.

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Speaker 3: Let's retire that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would try to make honestly added it later on.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, it couldn't have to be not an

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Speaker 4: important thing something that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, for me, I've learned, you know, keep your

588
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Speaker 2: mouth shut when it except when it really matters. I

589
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Speaker 2: would just say gosh, honey, you look fabulous and just

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Speaker 2: go to the bathroom and laugh or something. You know.

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Speaker 1: I would never Well, that does it for today's episode

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Speaker 1: of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. I just want to

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Speaker 1: say thank you, we both thank you Ellen for coming on.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see I think we're going to

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Speaker 1: see you at the end of this week, right oh wow?

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Speaker 4: Oh yes podcast?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, Ellen, we'd love to have you back on

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Speaker 2: the podcast again soon, but we always enjoy chatting with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. And everyone, please

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Speaker 2: be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have

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Speaker 2: lots of new episodes coming out a couple of times

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Speaker 2: a week and you don't want to miss even one

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear me again. Please submit your questions

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Speaker 1: to us.

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Speaker 3: Ellen.

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Speaker 1: You can as well submit a question something you want

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Speaker 1: to hear us talk about, because we will can that

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 4: You're doing a fantastic job. They couldn't have picked two

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Speaker 4: better people to do it, and I just can't wait

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Speaker 4: to see you next week. I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: You can go to bachelornation dot com or hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the social at Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: And please do listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour

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Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, we'll see you later.

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Speaker 4: Bye bye bye.