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Speaker 1: fm to get started. What is up? Metstup listeners, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to episode number eighty seven of the Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing the intro. We're hopping right into this

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Speaker 1: because the boys we're hot. We're steaming. Me and James

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Speaker 1: just got finished watching Game three of the Mets Cardinals series,

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Speaker 1: and as you know, there was a fucking fight. There

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Speaker 1: was a fight, the Mets and the Cardinals brawl graded

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Speaker 1: no punches were thrown but it is hot, it is heated,

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Speaker 1: and we were ready to talk about it, James, I

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Speaker 1: know we were talking about it right before we started

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Speaker 1: firing it up here. But the blood is I'm shaking,

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Speaker 1: I'm buzzing right now.

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Speaker 2: This was as much of a baseball fight as any

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Speaker 2: baseball fight I can remember in recent memory, truthfully, like

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Speaker 2: there was There wasn't exactly a necessary punch being thrown,

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Speaker 2: but there was a throwing. There was a flipping, There

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Speaker 2: was lots of shoving. Did you with One of the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals relievers didn't even wait to get out the door

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Speaker 2: in the bottleneck from the bullpen. He jumped over the fence.

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Speaker 2: He jumped over like a ten foot outfield fence to

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Speaker 1: Let's set the scene here, because the Mets have been

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Speaker 1: getting hit all year long, they lead the majors and

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Speaker 1: hit by pitches, and they got hit a couple times

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Speaker 1: again today. And it ended with Jad Davison the top

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Speaker 1: in the ankle by a Genesis Carbrera. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: limped around, limped around, out of the game. We don't

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Speaker 1: might be something we have to keep an eye out

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Speaker 1: for here. But as we know, Mets have been getting

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Speaker 1: in the head, Starling Martee get hit. All the guys

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Speaker 1: not intentional. I don't think any of these getting hit

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Speaker 1: you're the Mets, when you're leading the league and getting

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Speaker 1: hit by pitch, you have to put your foot down.

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Speaker 1: You have to say enough is enough, and you have

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Speaker 1: to make you have to you have to make a stance,

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Speaker 1: you have to say something, you have to do something,

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Speaker 1: and that's what they did. But even then, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are such such hard oz the biggest hard oh babies ever.

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Speaker 1: Because this ninety five mile hour fastball I was up

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Speaker 1: in the zone to Nolan Eronado that started all this

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Speaker 1: He was never in danger of getting hit. That pitch

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Speaker 2: No, for sure, but there was intent behind that pitch.

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Speaker 2: I almost think that Joan Lopez, the pitcher on the Mets,

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Speaker 2: Scherzer was basically just like, has his arm around him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's at the high fives in the dugout

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Speaker 1: right after he came, and everyone was They're like, you

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Speaker 2: I hope he's good. He's gonna be on the steam

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Speaker 2: the rest of the year. But that pitch definitely came

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of actually what started this whole thing. Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: there is no brawl. It's just a loud talking. He

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Speaker 1: But he threw him to the side and everything just exploded.

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Speaker 1: the Mets end up winning this one, But it was

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Speaker 1: just it's so funny me because the discourse on social

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Speaker 1: talking about how the Mets have been getting hit all

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Speaker 1: year long, getting hit in the head in this series,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna hit, hit him, hit him low and

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Speaker 1: hit him in the butt. You're right. They didn't hit

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Speaker 1: freaked out like the hard. Oh. He is a great

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Speaker 1: I want to say this, that reaction tells me one

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not that the Mets are in their head,

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Speaker 2: is that they just had to sit down and watch

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Speaker 2: a series where they got kind of thoroughly beat by

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Speaker 2: the Mets. Today's game being excluded yesterday, when you guys

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Speaker 2: Last year they were able to crush them twice two

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Speaker 2: they won one game in that a series, if that's unimportant.

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Speaker 2: And now the Cardinals had to go through a series

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Speaker 2: Monday night. They just got absolutely diced up by one

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Speaker 2: of the best pitchers, like you say, in baseball history

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Max Scherzer. And they're going through a game

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Speaker 2: PRITI to be.

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Speaker 1: No, it's great that we got the series went off

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Speaker 1: of them, especially because, like I don't understand this whole

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Speaker 1: because again I began so much shit on social media

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Speaker 1: well you shouldn't have won game one and game two.

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Speaker 1: You guys got lucky. It's like, well what happened today

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Speaker 1: in game three because you guys really didn't particularly hit

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Speaker 1: And it all led to this. It all led to

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Speaker 1: to fight. I'm ready to fight. And I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: Buckshaw Walter fucking edge man. The sixty five year old

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Speaker 1: man gives this team so much edge. We saw Shreser

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting for for a Mets team for a

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Speaker 1: had some disappointment, but there wasn't this like confidence. There

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Speaker 1: wasn't like, I don't want to say arrogance, but a cockiness,

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Speaker 2: Now. Something I talked about after the National Series early

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Speaker 2: aren't exactly unlikable individually, but it seems like they might

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Speaker 2: Did you see what David Martinez did? I believe it

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Speaker 1: Oh, with the bunt when they were up a bunch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Giants like scratched across a run in the

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Speaker 2: the seven run game, and David Martinez went ballistics saying

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Speaker 2: they were trying to run up the score. This again,

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Speaker 2: this is just what managers of bad teams will do.

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Speaker 2: Like Davey Martinez, who is an old school guy, a

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Speaker 2: hard though, and a manager of a bad team, just

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Speaker 2: goes to show that this Mets team, now, especially after

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Speaker 2: this actual fight, their second bench clearing into that in

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Speaker 2: less than one month, our team that's going to have

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Speaker 2: their target on their backs the entire season. You know why,

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Speaker 2: because they're really good.

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Speaker 1: They're really fucking good. Outside of Game three, the Mets

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Speaker 1: played really, really good baseball this series. And as much

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Speaker 1: as we'd love to talk about the fight for twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes here, we probably could. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: different things. Stubby Clap, stuny, Tom, Pete Alonzo, what's actually

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that? That was That was an impressive move.

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Speaker 1: Pete's a big guy, But what the hell is that?

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Speaker 2: Stubby Clap sounds like a nineteen twenties baseball name.

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Speaker 1: It's a fake name, that's not a real person.

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Speaker 2: Stubby Clap, I'm gonna get probably let vulgar for a second.

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Speaker 2: So if you guys listening with your kids, maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe earmuffs. But stubby clapp is a direct translation for

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Speaker 2: a chode with chlamythia.

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Speaker 1: How is his name real?

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Speaker 2: How can you go around being called stubby clap? Like

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous? And that wasn't very impressive. It was like

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Speaker 2: an ol school wrestling move, Like he grabbed Pete and

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Speaker 1: Story the game was the fight, and it happened. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But like we said, story of this game three

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Speaker 1: There should be almost no information on Miles Michael Liss.

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Speaker 1: there's a video again, if you can stomach it, go

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Speaker 1: ahead and take a look.

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Speaker 2: But myos out there.

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Speaker 1: Like I thinking about it right now. If you guys

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Speaker 1: are watching the YouTube video, I'm I'm uncomfort I'm uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's I wish I had not watched it.

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Speaker 1: I wish I never knew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say me to the freaking lizard king. Gary Cohen

438
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Speaker 2: the best, one of the best play by play guys

439
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Speaker 2: in sports. Pulled out of his ass like the fourth

440
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Speaker 2: inning of a zero zero ball game, So why is

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Speaker 2: the best?

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Speaker 1: And like we said, zero zero ball game. So went deep,

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Speaker 1: went deep into a zero zero ball game. Came down

444
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Speaker 1: to the bullpens in this one, and unfortunately for us,

445
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Speaker 1: Trevor May continued to struggle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Trevor Madden, this is something he actually talked about

447
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Speaker 2: after the game and even after the Tuesday night game.

448
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Speaker 2: He just doesn't really have the field for his pitches

449
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Speaker 2: right now. And you kind of saw that in this one.

450
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Speaker 2: He a lot of trouble putting the Cardinals hitters away.

451
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Speaker 2: Yady led off the inning with a seven pitch at bat,

452
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Speaker 2: filled off a couple of tough ones, spit on a

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Speaker 2: couple of sliders, and then hit a three to two fastball.

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Speaker 2: Just got like a little bit too much plate straight

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Speaker 2: back up the box center field. Harrison Bader followed up

456
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Speaker 2: with a single in the same spot, but this was

457
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Speaker 2: a slider, but Zen just trying to throw a pitch

458
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Speaker 2: loan outside to a rioty Both times slider in fastball,

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Speaker 2: Trevor's got too much plate. He had two men on

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Speaker 2: nobody out, and then there was some good old fashioned

461
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Speaker 2: baseball going on because Tommy Edmond came to the play.

462
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Speaker 2: Who's a very good bunters everyone will have you know,

463
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Speaker 2: and the Mets being the new old school buck baseball team,

464
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,160
Speaker 2: we're running the wheel. You never see the wheel anymore.

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Speaker 2: The wheel is such a crazy cycle play where your

466
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Speaker 2: third baseman and first baseman charged very high of the

467
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Speaker 2: bunt and your shortstop runs simultaneously basically with the pitch,

468
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Speaker 2: depending on the rest of your alignment two third base

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Speaker 2: to try and get a force out. I think the

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Speaker 2: giant scoy was with a wheel play. Yeah last week, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so as a lot that is going on the cat

472
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Speaker 2: and mouse game. He bumped it, bit missed, and then

473
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Speaker 2: he pulled the bun bump back, slashed, and eventually he

474
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Speaker 2: just hit like a dribbler that went over Trevor May's

475
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Speaker 2: glove became the de facto bunt.

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Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil made a really nice play on it too.

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Speaker 1: After the tip, he made a great play from second base,

478
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Speaker 1: coming across the field, throwing across his body. Haven't just

479
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Speaker 1: showing even more how valuable Jeff McNeil is to this team.

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Speaker 1: Plays great second in left field. Incredible roachrip for Jeff McNeil.

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Speaker 2: He completely got himself like back up the level after

482
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Speaker 2: like a year and a half of being in the mud,

483
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Speaker 2: and basically a week and a half, he's just.

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Speaker 1: So back it's not even funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then so now there's second and third for

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals, and this of course Harrison, Baida and Yahia

487
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Speaker 2: and Malina, the bomb of the order, the oneho started

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Speaker 2: this rally. Now you've Goldschmid up with a man of

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Speaker 2: second and third and nobody out, And much to the

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Speaker 2: surprise a lot of people on Twitter, Buck decided not

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Speaker 2: to walk gold Schmid, which I personally agreed with just

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Speaker 2: the fact that I trust my pitcher on the Mount,

493
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Speaker 2: Trevor May, to execute the successful pitch around. And you

494
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Speaker 2: did get Goldsmith to swing out a couple swinging a

495
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Speaker 2: couple of bad ones. He had into a three to

496
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Speaker 2: two count. He just couldn't throw that last slider to

497
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Speaker 2: make him chase or dot that fastball to get this

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Speaker 2: soft contact or get a looking strike. So Bolshman winds

499
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Speaker 2: up drawing the walk and Tyler O'Neill probably hit a

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Speaker 2: two run single right after to give the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Two nothing lead. Yeah, I think it's hard to say,

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Speaker 1: let's intentionally walk Paul Goldschmidt to face Tyler O'Neill, who's

503
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Speaker 1: like almost impossible to double up as well, even if

504
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Speaker 1: you're trying for that. Like he's just he's a really,

505
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Speaker 1: really good athlete, probably one of the best athletes in

506
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball right now. I don't disagree with the

507
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Speaker 1: move that he had to go after Goldschmith, like he

508
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Speaker 1: didn't really have the stuff. He kind of had to

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Speaker 1: find it. And as weird as it sounds, like he

510
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Speaker 1: had to use Goldschmid as a way to hopefully try

511
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Speaker 1: and find it. Because if you intentionally walk the bases

512
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Speaker 1: loaded Tyler O'Neal's up, and if you don't have it,

513
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Speaker 1: you could be in really big trouble.

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Speaker 2: And after O'Neill is Nolan Ronado, as we've seen as

515
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Speaker 2: a prolific Uh, he's just been RBM machine's entire career. Like,

516
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Speaker 2: there's no real way to get out of the middle

517
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Speaker 2: of the Cardinals or they count just have to attack.

518
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Speaker 2: So I supported that move, and then May did nut

519
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Speaker 2: up and get the strikeout of Ronado for the second

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Speaker 2: out to then then a guy whoever, I don't remember

521
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Speaker 2: who it's fits in this lineup, but Dickerson, Carlson that game,

522
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Speaker 2: it's a big drop off. Yeah, May dug deep and

523
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Speaker 2: he kept the damage to two. And it is again

524
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Speaker 2: very clear that he didn't have command of either his

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Speaker 2: fastball or a slider, like you mentioned after the game,

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Speaker 2: because you thirty two percent change ups in this having,

527
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Speaker 2: which is far and away the most I can ever

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Speaker 2: remember Trevor May using it an having with the Mets,

529
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Speaker 2: and it's just that's just not how he rolls. So

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Speaker 2: I trust Trevor to get through. He's a professional, but

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Speaker 2: tough that he couldn't get through this inning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime you see Trevor going to the change up

533
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Speaker 1: as much as he did, we talked about it last

534
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Speaker 1: year at times when he had some like rough outings.

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Speaker 1: We're like man throwing that change up a lot. It

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Speaker 1: seems like for a pitch that's not his best, it's

537
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Speaker 1: almost his safety blanket of when things aren't working, at

538
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Speaker 1: least I will have this. He didn't have it. But

539
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Speaker 1: then we moved to the ninth inning, and this is

540
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Speaker 1: where we start to have some fun because I don't

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Speaker 1: know how it happened. I don't know what exactly went on,

542
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: but all you needed was a little bit of luck,

543
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: and it started with a little Eduardo Escobar went out single.

544
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Speaker 1: Cano came to the plate, which he infuriated me. We

545
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Speaker 1: don't need to talk about that because I ended up

546
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Speaker 1: working out. Of course, he had a weak fly ball.

547
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Speaker 1: So two outs, one guy on and Marky cheerios. Mark

548
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Speaker 1: Canna comes to the plate and does what Mark Canna does.

549
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Speaker 2: Mark Canna staring. Talented closer, not top tier closer, but

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Speaker 2: very good closer. Giovanni Gagoes in the face worked just

551
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Speaker 2: one of the most masterful at bats we've seen from

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Speaker 2: a met this year. Got down two quickly on two sliders,

553
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Speaker 2: one that fell in for a strike and one that

554
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Speaker 2: he whiffed at, and then from O two he got

555
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Speaker 2: five more slyders successively from Giovanni Geagos. He fought off

556
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Speaker 2: a tough one, he barely missed a hangar, he spit

557
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Speaker 2: on a low one, one was bounced, and then he

558
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: had what seemed like, I wouldn't say a routine ground ball,

559
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Speaker 2: Nolan Aronado, but a routine played four Nolan Rnado.

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Speaker 1: He was going towards the line like he he like

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Speaker 1: he like charges in coming towards the line, kind of

562
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Speaker 1: had to make a run on the throw. But these

563
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Speaker 1: are this is something you've seen to make a one hundred

564
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Speaker 1: half one hundred times because he's one of the best

565
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Speaker 1: fielding third basemen in the league.

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Speaker 2: Nine straight gold gloves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he had a hard time getting the ball

568
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Speaker 1: out of the glove. He took like eight steps trying

569
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Speaker 1: to do that. It seemed like to threw off his rhythm,

570
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Speaker 1: sailed it completely over for Paul Golschmid's head. Mark Canna

571
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Speaker 1: is safe. The game continues on, and I mean, I

572
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Speaker 1: know you want to talk about it. Somehow got ruled

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Speaker 1: as a single, which good for Marcana, give him a

574
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Speaker 1: single all day. But that's an error.

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Speaker 2: That was an error that's complete there, and it screwed

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Speaker 2: me for any fancy baseball players out there, for ge

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Speaker 2: Vonnie Diegos, because since this play was ruled a single

578
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Speaker 2: for Marcano with why the west coubar coming home on

579
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Speaker 2: the on the throwing air, all the runs that the

580
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: Mets was scored later were now charged at g Vannie Gayegos,

581
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Speaker 2: even though the game the inning should have been over

582
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Speaker 2: right there on the spot, which was kind of ridiculous,

583
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Speaker 2: but again glad for Marcana he got a single, get

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Speaker 2: the batting average up, I guess, but that was ridiculous.

585
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Speaker 1: And then of course Jeff McNeil, who's just so frigging

586
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Speaker 1: back with the Jeff McNeil double, like we see, absolutely fantastic, huge,

587
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Speaker 1: huge part of the sitting here was that double. And

588
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Speaker 1: then we got Dom com into the play. Who was

589
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Speaker 1: pinch hitting for Nido or McCann Needo, I think it

590
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Speaker 1: was Nido. I want one of the catchers. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Nido, And I actually was complaining earlier that

592
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Speaker 1: he wasn't used as a pinch hitter earlier in the game.

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Speaker 2: For you, and I was like, no, we have to

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Speaker 2: save this because we're only going to get one shot

595
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Speaker 2: this because only two catchers.

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Speaker 1: So Buck was right. Buck made the right move. Dom

597
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: comes up, smokes the ball down the first baseline. But

598
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Speaker 1: because of course the Cardinals have great defense. I have

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Speaker 1: gold Glover, Paul gold Smith playing first base, who's playing

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Speaker 1: back fields it off the base, which is such a

601
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 1: hard thing to do, as well as to get off

602
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Speaker 1: the base. Makes an incredible play, but Giovanni diegos To

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Speaker 1: sleeping doesn't get over quick enough, Dom dives in the

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Speaker 1: first like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was chaos.

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Speaker 1: It was chaos for sure, safe to runs score. Jeff mcgill'

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Speaker 1: scores from second on the ground ball from first, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this game is looking a whole

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Speaker 1: lot different.

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Speaker 2: Dude. People have not talked about Jeff mcneils hustle scoring

611
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Speaker 2: in that ground ball from second base enough. This man

612
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: started to play on second base and the ball never

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Speaker 2: got more than eight feet behind the first base bag,

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Speaker 2: and he scored, diving in head first, screaming, pumping his

615
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Speaker 2: fist after the play. This frck God. When this guy's

616
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Speaker 2: playing baseball like the way he can play baseball, He's

617
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Speaker 2: such a joy to have on your team.

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Speaker 1: He's so valuable to this team when he's played like this,

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Speaker 1: My goodness. And I know he's been hitting eighth, which

620
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: I absolutely hate, but boy, oh boy, has he been

621
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Speaker 1: so good. Get this man some more at bats, please whatever.

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Speaker 1: I want to Seejeff be'an neil hitting more. He's an

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Speaker 1: on base machine right now. And then we got a

624
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Speaker 1: break because TJ. McFarlane comes into the game and S

625
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Speaker 1: and Y and MBTV whatever you were watching on if

626
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: you're watching the Mets broadcast cuts back late and we

627
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: just see a ball in the air down the right

628
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Speaker 1: field line. I'm sitting next to my dad because I

629
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Speaker 1: was home in New Jersey this weekend, and my dad's like,

630
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: he like smacked me. He gave you like the smack

631
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Speaker 1: of like, oh, like, oh my goodness, it's happening. What

632
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: just happened? Like we thought it was a replay? Yeah,

633
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: we thought it was a replay. And Gary finally comes

634
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: back as he sees the feed or whatever he's watching,

635
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: or he finally gets to be heard, and he's like,

636
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Speaker 1: it's out of here to Brandon Neimo with a whole

637
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: two run home run and the Mets take a lead, Like, dude,

638
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: I love that Nemo. I don't know if you picked

639
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: this up before he came into the game. When they

640
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: were making the switch, he was talking to some coach

641
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Speaker 1: on the bench who whipped out an iPad and they

642
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: were intently talking about what was going on. And I

643
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: have to think that whatever he told him was why

644
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: he was jumping on that first pitch from TJ McFarlane

645
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: because left he lefty reliever. That seems like a take

646
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: for Nimo every time, and he was ready.

647
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: I think it was a hanging slider that he was

648
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: trying to like kind of kind of drop on the

649
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: inside corner. That just called little too much play. And

650
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: we talked briefly last year when Nimo came back and

651
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: was swinging more aggressively at first pitches than he ever

652
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: had in his career. It's just Brandon was really blossoming

653
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: as a baseball player in front of our eyes. And

654
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: it's an absolute joy to watch.

655
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, right in a contract year, just so we can

656
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: ride a big well, if not, we Steve Gullan can

657
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: write a big fat check hopefully.

658
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a strong way.

659
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: Yes, strong day, but oh what a what a ninth inning?

660
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: And then Edwin comes in. I don't care that there

661
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: was a little bit of drama. Shut the door, Edward.

662
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: The drama drama was Twoesday. There was no drama in

663
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: this one.

664
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: There was no drama in this one. I think there

665
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: was like one out walk, but that's okay. Yeah, that's

666
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: always scary, But I don't care because the Met's one.

667
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: Mets win, great game, great win. The Mets hit the

668
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: ball card kind of kind of ish like it was decent,

669
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: But you know what, these are games that the Mets lose.

670
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: These are that these Mets don't win the way the

671
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: Cardinals lost is how the Mets lose to the Cardinals

672
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: in years past. Their third basement makes an error with

673
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: one out up against Markana, who's not the fastest guy

674
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: on the bass. Pats like Nolan Aeronado made a fielding

675
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: throwing era on a fairly routine play, and then Paul

676
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: Goldschman makes a sick play and the pitcher forgets to

677
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: cover the fundamentals. They were not there for the Cardinals

678
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: in the first game.

679
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: No, they were not. But also let's give credit to

680
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: the Mets. The Cardinals as a team only had three

681
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: hard hit balls the entire game. Like they besides that

682
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: tiny little mini rally off of Trevor May, they didn't

683
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: even get close to scoring a run the rest of

684
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: this game, and the Mets they didn't. Again, they really

685
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: hit the crap out of the ball. No player had

686
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: more than one hard hit ball. He only had seven

687
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: as a team. But there is a game that you

688
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: could kind of beat a team when you just make

689
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: less mistakes in them. There's something we've been trying to

690
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: beat home over and over against. This Mets season is

691
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: moving on this Mets team is making significantly less mistakes

692
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: than teams from.

693
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: The past, definitely, And everyone was riding high, everyone was

694
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: feeling good, and then we got the weirdest de gram

695
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: injury news ever. It was like news that wasn't news.

696
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: Are like, hey, he's he's good. He's not gonna throw yet,

697
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: but he's gonna start weight stre What was the word

698
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: weight loading? I believe they called it.

699
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: Loathing and strengthening the shoulder.

700
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever that means. I have no clue what loading

701
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: and strengthening the shoulder is. But everyone on mess Twitter

702
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: took this as if a.

703
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: Lot of this asometric work. I'm sure some bands so

704
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: nothing with the ball, but a lot of stretching in

705
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: some light, light calistatic workouts.

706
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mess Twitter took this as if Jacob de Grom

707
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: was pitching the next day.

708
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was I was a little bit perturbed by

709
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: how excited people were about an update that said Jacob

710
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: de Grom wasn't throwing still.

711
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like, I think the hope is that

712
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: he'll be ready by the All Star break now is

713
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: what the consensus seems to be. I'll be very happy

714
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: with that. That'll be a nice trade deadline pickup, mister.

715
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: Mark Willpond, but uh, this was just so weird that

716
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: we knew Jacob d Gram had the cat skin on

717
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: Friday and was getting this MRI on Monday, and they

718
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: were like expecting an update Monday, and right before the

719
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: game they were like, might not be an update on Monday,

720
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: and like all the Mets fans, I'm sure you guys too,

721
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: we all send it around our text messages. Our dads

722
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: were like, fuck this, here we have again. And then

723
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: after this insane game with the Mets score five unearned

724
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: runs and it should have been undearned runs the ninth

725
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: inning to win a game against the freaking hated Cardinals,

726
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: and hey, Dicomo eleven PM is like, hey, good beat

727
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: up Jacob. Update tonight. Wait wait for it. I was

728
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: like what, and they drop it mid that nothing has happened.

729
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: They're gonna wait three more weeks.

730
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: It's bizarrow world, absolutely nuts. Leads us into game two though,

731
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: feeling great, feeling awesome, and our man Chris Bassett's on

732
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: the mound and oh, so fucking oh Bassett Hound.

733
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: I like that.

734
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: I like that. I haven't thought about that. Yeah, he's

735
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: a beast. Oh that's that's gotta be his thing. Now.

736
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: People gotta be woofing when Chris Bass is on the mound. Yeah,

737
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: let the dogs loose. I like that. That was that

738
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: was clever, James. You take you know, take over the

739
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: Bassett section here since she had got a killer thing.

740
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. I wrote that in the notes this morning.

741
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: I'm ready for Chris Bass And it's just like we

742
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: talked about him being the new Stroman this year, and

743
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: we see how bad Marcus Stroman has been for the

744
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs. He's he really looks like, yeah, you might,

745
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: you might be kind of bat than the strouman. He's

746
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: just steady man. He's steady Eddy. We called him oatmeal.

747
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: That might have been a little bit too a little

748
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: bit too modest for uh, for Chris Bass. I mean

749
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: French toast, maybe pancakes, like something like more than Oatmeala

750
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: has a similar amount of like very stable nutritional value.

751
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: But I think his third straight start to start the

752
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: season through six innings, this pump nowhere and runs two hits,

753
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: three walks, six strikeouts. And we've talked a lot about

754
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: Chris basson mixing up his repertoire. He threw five different

755
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: pitches at least twelve percent of the time in this game,

756
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: just going absolutely crazy. And he almost almost has fourth

757
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: different primary pitch and as many starts this season, So

758
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: I was wrong before He's had four stars, not three.

759
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm all over the place, So create a fight. We

760
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: had a freaking fight. We had a fight, were right,

761
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: but either one less slyther than sinkers. On to the

762
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: night against the Cardinals, and if you would have thrown,

763
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: if that would have been swapped while more slider than singers,

764
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: he would have had a different primary pitch and all

765
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: four of us start because the already used a sinker, a

766
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: col and a forcing fastball as his three primary pitches.

767
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: So I love this guy so much. He's such a

768
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: pitcher man. He just he's like he does all these

769
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: tiny little things right, He's throwback. I love watching Chris

770
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Bassett work every fifth day.

771
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had stuff to say after the game

772
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: too about the baseball, about how much he hates them.

773
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: And that's a different baseball every pitch, every inning. It's

774
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: the absolute worst. People were like do Tim Healy did

775
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: his classic Tim Healey thing of taking quotes out of

776
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: context to make it fit some other narrative that he

777
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: knows will get more clicks, which is that Chris Bassett

778
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: was complaining about like sticky stuff, which was definitely not

779
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: the case. He was just saying, like they feel different,

780
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: the weight's different, the way they move different. Everything about

781
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: these baseball is different, enning to inning pitch pretty freaking well, considering.

782
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: That that could have been another thing that tied into

783
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: this fight as well, because Miles Mikolas threw some shade

784
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: back of Chris basket today before the game, saying that

785
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: our guys are fine with it over here, like you

786
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: gotta pitch or something like that. Maybe you're relying on

787
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: the stuff someone. I don't know if a writer said

788
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: that or I Mikolas said that.

789
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: No, Michaelas did say that, And also Miles Michaelis, how

790
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: about you shut your mouth. You guys lost the series

791
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: two games to one, so yeah, you guys really can

792
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: pitch pitch well enough to lose two out of three

793
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: of the New York Mets.

794
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Baby, let's go, and you crush the lizard's skull with

795
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: your teeth, so you really don't have any right to

796
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: say anything at all.

797
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: You might wear people's skin. I'm just gonna say I'm

798
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna throw that out there. You think you have a

799
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: moral high ground. You kill the living lizard with your

800
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: mouth for you poured your drill on it. Where's Pete at?

801
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: Where's Pete at? They freak out after it, after everything

802
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: they're at NBA games. How are they not hunting down

803
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Miles Michaelis?

804
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: They have too many resources dealing with Glenn Taylor in

805
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves right now for their bad chicken practices

806
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: that they can't there. This is next week for pee

807
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: that once the Temperwolves are eliminated.

808
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: But anyway, finishing up with this. You know Chris Bass performance,

809
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: he was great, he was awesome. He's steady, Eddie, He's

810
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: just he's so good.

811
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: He keeps hither so off balanced, like no one's ever

812
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: comfortable in the box against him when he doesn't even

813
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: have any pitch that can blow you away or like

814
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: make your knees buckle. Like his breaking balls are good,

815
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: but there's no they're not like you see you see

816
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: videos and Twitter. Pitchers in the minor leagues are better

817
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: breaking balls than Chris Bass. He just puts every single

818
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: pitch wherever he wants it at any given time. It's

819
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 2: he's masterful. I love watching the pitch and he's just

820
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: one of those old school guys where you could just

821
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: give him the ball and say, go, I've at it.

822
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: You let us know when you're done, and that's that's

823
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: the best part.

824
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: He had one more quote after the game too that

825
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of got me fired up as well. They said,

826
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: what is your thoughts on winning the first six series

827
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: of the year. He goes, it's great, but I really

828
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: only care about winning the last six and I was like,

829
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: it's my fucking boy right there. I love that.

830
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: That was a great quote. He was like, we're not

831
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: really focus on April. We're just happy to be winning

832
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: games right now, which I mean. I mentioned last week

833
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: that the Astros kind of they got to make fun

834
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: of the Mets. I'm sure a lot of other ball

835
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: clubs and baseball do the same thing. It was nice

836
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: to see that these guys are not like relishing in

837
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: these uh in these victories. Because I saw a Staaten

838
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: Twyler like, the last time the Mets start this good

839
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: a similar record as of games was the famous twenty

840
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: eighteen Mickey Callaway collapse.

841
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: So she shouldn't even said anything.

842
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: Let's just just keep moving on. Just keep winning your series,

843
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: win every series, and you're gonna be a good team.

844
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: Yep. And we had a tough matchup two. In Game two,

845
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: we wun up against Jordan Hicks, who throws just one

846
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: of the craziest sliders I've seen in a long time.

847
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: We have a quote from Pete that just came through.

848
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, read it.

849
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: Read it from Mike Puma. Pete Alonso on the scrum,

850
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: if I wanted to put someone in the hospital, I

851
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: easily could. I was just I was just out there

852
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: trying to protect my guys.

853
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: Oh that's almost that was Cindergard like where he's like,

854
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: if you want to fight me six foot you know,

855
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: sixty feet six inches away. Pete's like, if I wanted,

856
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: if I wanted to hurt someone, I would, I can

857
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: do it. Don't worry, don't test me. Oh Pete, Pete

858
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: showing the little edge that's huge for his game. Huge.

859
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: I can't.

860
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: I just I can't believe we have a team that

861
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: has edge. Is unbelievable.

862
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: If you would have told me that Pete Alonzo was

863
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: threatening putting people in a hospital when he came up

864
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: as a rookie, I would have laughed. I'm like Pete

865
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the polar Bear, the Teddy Bear. Listen, polar bears kill.

866
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: They're dangerous, mean, they're cute, cuddly on the outside, got

867
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: nice for kind of like Pete Alonzo. But you piss

868
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: him off. Give him one good swift swipe of the

869
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: claw and he'll send you to the hospital. Where we

870
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: talking about? Oh, is Jordan Hicks throwing that video game slider?

871
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: His stuff's pretty crazy. But you know who figured out

872
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Nicks pretty well.

873
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 2: James McCann.

874
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: James mccannon. Baby. We've had all episodes where we've highlighted

875
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: James McCann. He had a great gaming game too.

876
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: Great game Game two his best game of the entire

877
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: year by far. I get a very loud RBI double

878
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 2: to drive Jeff McNeil in the third inning and then

879
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: was driven in promptly by Starling Marte single. And he

880
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: went three for four in this game. I can't remember

881
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: the last time James McCann got three hits in the game.

882
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about before the Diamondbacks series where Eric Chavez,

883
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: who they call Shavy, which is sick, he said that

884
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: McCann been swinging a well. I said the guy's an

885
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: athletic in the box, like it's only a matter of

886
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: time before it turns around. And I guess he was right.

887
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you start to see when McCann's going

888
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: well is when he starts to take that ball kind

889
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: of like right over the second basement's head to like

890
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: the right center field gap. Granted, like that's not for

891
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: extra bases ever, because he's not the fastest guy, But

892
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: when you're starting to see him do that with his

893
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: swing and he's not just pulling every outside fastball for

894
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: a double play to shortstop, that's when you know things

895
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: are working. And I do feel like this little platoon

896
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: situation that they have with mccannondo, which we were preaching

897
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: for all of last year, seems to be the right

898
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: move here because each guy seems to make some sort

899
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: of impact every time they're in now, as opposed to

900
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: trotting out mcann for one hundred and twenty games and

901
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: him being dead ass tired.

902
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: Definitely, especially because McCann is a guy who he is

903
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: a big, strong dude, Like I want James mccannon to

904
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to use more force, maybe less often,

905
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: and you kind of see it when it seems like

906
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: he is very looks very much more athletic in the box.

907
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: Like Eric Chaves said during these last couple of games here,

908
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: so keep it going nine fifty fifty split. Every guy

909
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: that helps out, just hit ninth every day. We don't

910
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: need much. Just give us something when you can.

911
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: Yep. And the Mets, I mean, they were kind of

912
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: in control this whole game. It was just close. It

913
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: was too nothing going late into the game, and then

914
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: Starling Marte got hit with the bases loaded, which also

915
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, also started some stuff here, got people going

916
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: a little bit along with Pete getting hit in the

917
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: head because i was the second time Pete's got hit

918
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: in the head this year, a little bit of beanball

919
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: going on. We now know what it ended up leading to,

920
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: but of course this was a precursor to everything.

921
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: Also fun that little run late the game when we

922
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: got another run on a hit by pitch, like the

923
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: Mets have done that twice in four games. Now, who

924
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: else even does that? It's ridiculous.

925
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Well, the Mets got their first hit with the bases

926
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: loaded today in Game three, which is so funny that

927
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: we are nineteen twenty games into the season and that's

928
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: just got their first hit with the base loadings because

929
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: a lot of times we get hit by pitch or walked.

930
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah right, ridiculous, ridiculous. Had you fourteen wins and no

931
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: hits with the bases loaded.

932
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: It's like an anomaly, honestly, but physical anomaly. Five total

933
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: guys hit this game, two Cardinals and then got hit

934
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: later in the game, but obviously unintentional, obviously on pitches

935
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: that that kind of missed.

936
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Brendon Donovan early in the game, and then Tommy Edwin

937
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: like a like a slider his back foot late. Yeah.

938
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: So, and it was in a close game, like they're

939
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: not putting Tommy Edmond on the base.

940
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: The starting by tab one was to make the two

941
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: run game of three run game. Like, there's no way

942
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: it was intentional.

943
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. Diaz got a little bit shaky, but

944
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: as he Edwin, Diaz is pretty much done this year.

945
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: He ended up getting the job done. He was still

946
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: still pretty filthy. Throw a lot more fastballs, throw a

947
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: lot more fastballs.

948
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: The four pitchwalk just shook me to my core. I

949
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: was terrified and I was either two more balls and

950
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: they had a nice mount visit. Then we got a

951
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: great call from the ump shadow Mark Wagner, who who

952
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: called a great game on Tuesday night. That's our boy

953
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: kept the.

954
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: Game under control and in the right way as well

955
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: for those New York Mets. And your boy won big

956
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: money that night too. I gotta talk about my big bet.

957
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: We had a little little three same game parlay. DraftKings

958
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: was given us some good plus one hundred percent boost

959
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: on a parlay during that game. Because on TBS, she's like,

960
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: all right, Mets minus one and a half. Which that

961
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: that hit? We won by three. Jeff mcneilan, Nolan Aaron

962
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: Auto to get a hit. Your boy turned two twenty

963
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: dollars into two hundred dollars. What a night Mets win

964
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: and two hundred dollars. I'm feeling great. What a massive hit, dude,

965
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: massive massive hit. And that's pretty much the series. The

966
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Mets took two of three from the Saint Louis Cardinals.

967
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: We had a fight, We had some late inning antics,

968
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: we had some craziness in game one, Game two. We

969
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: were just better in Game three the brawl. I mean,

970
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't think there's really much else here to talk

971
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: about Saint Louis, but circle your calendars, guys, because in

972
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the middle of May, the Cardinals are coming to town,

973
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: and I will tell you right now, this is not

974
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: last fight we have seen between these two teams.

975
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: May sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteen, the four game set

976
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: at City Field in less than three weeks, and I'm

977
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: very excited for that. Also, there's a team that again

978
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: there's historic rivalry between the Mets and Cardinals. Like I

979
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: said last episode, that we're directly competing for playoff spots

980
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: in the National League, and there's a reasonable chance in

981
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: the next few years when baseball religns, that we are

982
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: once again paired up with this team in division. And

983
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: it seems like there's a couple of players in each

984
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: of these teams we're gonna be around for a little while.

985
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: So I'm happy that we could have a new budding,

986
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: a reborn baseball rivalry.

987
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, be nice, be nice, definitely circle you know, mark

988
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: your calendars for May sixteen, seventeenth, eighteenth, and the nineteenth

989
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: or whatever the four days are. It is going to

990
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: be fun baseball. Now. Something we want to do on

991
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: the podcast a little bit more is get a mail

992
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: bag going. We've done it before, but we want to

993
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: do it a little bit more. Moving forward. So we

994
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: asked you guys on Twitter, make sure you're following us

995
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: at Mets up mail Bag time. Send us your questions

996
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: about the Mets. We'll answer them on the next episode

997
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: of the podcast. And we're just gonna kind of run

998
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: through a bunch of these and give you guys our

999
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: quick thoughts and opinions. First one coming in from Javier Lorenzo.

1000
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, greetings from Coast three. Shout out Costa.

1001
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: Rica, Costa Rica.

1002
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: When Jake comes back, Let's say everyone in the rotation

1003
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: is pitching great. Who is the odd man out? Or

1004
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: do we go with a six man rotation to cover

1005
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: for Jake and Max? Do we use the odd man

1006
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: out as a long relief guy for Jake or a

1007
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: six man and with Peterson relief. So I'll defer to

1008
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: you first, James, I have my answer. I'd love to

1009
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: hear what you have to say.

1010
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I think a big thing is

1011
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: one just like Jake actually coming back, like he still

1012
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: has another MRI in three weeks. That's going to determine

1013
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: whether he's throwing or not, whether he actually can come

1014
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: back by let's say like the first week of July.

1015
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: If he's cleared the second week of May, So that's

1016
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: one of thing. The other thing is all the other

1017
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: pictures if Jake does come back healthy, also still being

1018
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: healthy by that point, because it's baseball, and pitchers get

1019
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: hurt every single day in this league, and there's no

1020
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: telling when's gonna happen next or who's gonna happen to.

1021
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: But in the utopian world that Avier described, I do

1022
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: think there's a very high likelihood that we see Jacob

1023
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: Degram brought on in something like something like the Michael

1024
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Kopek role that we saw the White Sox do last year,

1025
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: with Kopek kind of still learning how to be a

1026
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: starter again while also coming off Tommy John surgery. I

1027
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: know that neither of those things are true for Jake,

1028
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: but as I don't even know what the word is

1029
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: as flimsy is his right shoulder, right elbow have proven

1030
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: to be over the last two years with him throwing

1031
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: this insane intensity over all these innings and pitches, Like

1032
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: I do think there is there could be some value

1033
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: in him pitching for shorter stints of time with that

1034
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: same intensity rather than pitching with like eighty percent of

1035
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: his intensity. He still being a traditional starter, especially because

1036
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: it really benefits Jacob de Gram to be healthy as

1037
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: much of this year as possible with him opting out

1038
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: of his contract before next season starts. So I do

1039
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: think there's a chance that we see Jacob de Gram

1040
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: deployed in a bit more of a unique way if

1041
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: and when he comes back.

1042
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: See, I think it's gonna be the opposite. I think

1043
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back and he's just gonna be ready

1044
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: to go. Like whenever he eventually does come back this year,

1045
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: as long as he does knock on some wood there,

1046
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: I think he's just kind of gonna go right back

1047
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: into it. Maybe not these seven eight inning appearances, but

1048
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: I think you're not gonna see him pitch like less

1049
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: than five unless there is something going, like catastrophically wrong

1050
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: in the game. So let's just say he's healthy. You

1051
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: have Scherzer, you have Bassett, you have Tyler McGill's saying

1052
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: he's staying in the rotation. McGill's not going anywhere. He

1053
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: got four locked in right there, and then you got

1054
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: and Carrasco, So Carrasco, Taiwan David petersoner fighting for that spot.

1055
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: I think you have to give it to Carrasco, right now,

1056
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: health performance, everything, and then Walker and Peterson can kind

1057
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: of backpack off each other. You also have to remember

1058
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: that later in the year we have a couple double

1059
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: headers coming up too, So having this rotational depth later

1060
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: in the year will be huge because we still do

1061
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: have to make up those first two weeks of the

1062
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: season that we miss because of the lockout. So I

1063
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: think the easy obvious choice right now, if de Grom

1064
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: and everyone else is healthy and pitching great, it would

1065
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: be de Gram, Schuser, Bassett, mcguil, Carrasco, and I mean

1066
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Taiwan and David Peterson out of the pen. As like,

1067
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: longer relief guys really wouldn't be the worst case scenario

1068
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: by any means. That'd be a pretty beefy rotation we're

1069
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: looking at.

1070
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that point. I just think that,

1071
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: like there's never there's never a perfect world in baseball,

1072
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: there's always something else that's gonna happen to make this

1073
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: become either more complicated or less complicated. There's no way

1074
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: this decision is the exact same amount of complicated as

1075
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: we think it is right now. On April twenty eighth, Yeah, sick,

1076
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: we could protect everything sick.

1077
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: If this our if this was our issue right now,

1078
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, we have a seven starting pitchers, what

1079
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: do we do?

1080
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: Seven and a half? Almost? But there. I do still

1081
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: think there is a world's just because another Jacob de

1082
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: Grim injury would just be so bad for him and

1083
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: his brand. As he's going into again a contract negotiation

1084
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: with not only the Mets, but possibly with other teams

1085
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. He he just can't get injured

1086
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: again this season and expect to make anything close to

1087
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: the amount of money that he's earned he's potentially due.

1088
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: So I do think there is some space to be creative. Also,

1089
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: just because we saw Max Scherz's arm go dead is

1090
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: a door now last year by the time October rolled around,

1091
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: and suck to watch because a guy like Max Scherzer,

1092
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: we're so used to being so dominant, so competitive. He

1093
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: was just he was rendered at like sixty percent of

1094
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: his capabilities by the time the NLCS came around. He's

1095
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: the kind of guy who maybe if he throws a

1096
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: few less innings down the stretch, it's really helpful. Tyler McGill,

1097
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: he had a big jump in innings last year. We

1098
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: don't know what happened at the alternate site for the Mets.

1099
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: He threw about one hundred twenty last year, so he's

1100
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: probably due for anywhere from one hundred and fifty to

1101
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five by the time this year ends.

1102
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: He's another you might just get the six man rotation going,

1103
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: or use Jacob de Gram and David Peterson. Taywan Walker

1104
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: has like these three four inning weapons late in the year,

1105
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: so you can take the load off guys. Depending on

1106
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: how the playoff rakes looks and just how everything looks.

1107
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: There's so many factors that are going to tie into

1108
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: how this pitching staff will be used down the stretch,

1109
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: and there's so much to benefit from your pitchers getting

1110
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: ahead of ourselves here being as rested as possible heading

1111
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: into October. We saw that majorly and again in the

1112
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: NLC NLCS last year. The big difference between the Braves

1113
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers. The Dodgers, team that fought really hard

1114
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: to get that playoff spot, fell one game short of

1115
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: their division and the Braves, a team that kind of

1116
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: coasted for the last six weeks this season. We're able

1117
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: to cap their stars around five to six, so they

1118
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: were saving some innings but still stretched out enough to

1119
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: do anything they needed in the playoffs.

1120
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, definitely. I think it'll be a very good

1121
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: problem to have if this problem even does ever arise, For.

1122
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: The fantastic problem that one of the best problems I

1123
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: could envision.

1124
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the offensive side of baseball. This one

1125
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: comes from Brandon. Does Robinson Can now have any chance

1126
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: of being successful this season? If the obvious is true?

1127
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: What does a realistic phase out look like for him?

1128
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: Are there any chances of other bench players getting traded?

1129
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: And if so to who? Sorry for the fifty part question,

1130
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: So I think we'll talk mostly about the Robinson Cano

1131
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: stuff here. It's going to be really tough for the

1132
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: current Robinson Cano that we are seeing play right now

1133
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: for the New York Mets be successful. He's just not

1134
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: hitting the ball hard. He's not running well, he doesn't

1135
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: have the same range he once had.

1136
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: He's hitting the ball a little bit hard. He's hitting

1137
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: the ball kind of hard.

1138
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: He's hit the ball hard like twice this year, Like,

1139
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: hit the ball hard twice in how many at bats

1140
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: has he had? So the consistency of him being able

1141
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: to hit the ball hard, plus the combination of he's

1142
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: got no legs left. He makes this team a whole

1143
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: lot less athletic, which is something that it seemed like

1144
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: they made a very conscious effort to try and improve

1145
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: upon this season. To me, it doesn't make any sense

1146
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: to keep playing him nearly as much as they have

1147
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: if we're talking phase out, I think when we start

1148
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: talking about the roster cuts, he might be a guy

1149
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: who is very much on watch to be cut possibly.

1150
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and asking me about what it could look like,

1151
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: I do think that it'll just be like, very unceremoniously,

1152
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: You'll just wake up one day, Robin and Cano will

1153
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: no longer be a professional baseball player for the New

1154
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: York Mets. And again, whether it's something that he at

1155
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: some point looks around is like, I really just can't

1156
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: snuff it anymore. I mean, there's no way he's gonna

1157
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: turn down. I think it's forty eight million dollars over

1158
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: the next two seasons. I don't know. I don't know

1159
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: any god fearing man that would. But it's a very

1160
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 2: peculiar situation because he's a guy like you're you're running

1161
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: the risk now of like lenacy tarnishing status. It's not

1162
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: that I still do think that Robinson Cano can be

1163
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: a semi useful bat on the right team in the

1164
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: perfect pristine situation, like kind of how the Dodgers used

1165
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: Abra Pootholes last year, where he is the lone unathletic

1166
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: guy on your bench rather than one of three relatively

1167
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: unathletic guys on your bench, Like it's just to fit

1168
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: on the Mets right now, coupled with the fact that

1169
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: we traded Jared Caalndig for him, and you, like a

1170
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: lot of things going back, He's not He's definitely not

1171
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: good right now. He's chasing more than anybody in baseball.

1172
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: He's slower than almost everybody in baseball, and like you said,

1173
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: he thinking the ball on the ground not particularly hard.

1174
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: So it's pretty unlikely that he's going to, I don't know,

1175
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: just be good again all of a sudden. I think

1176
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: that's would be shocking. But I think the phase out,

1177
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just seems like it so unlikely

1178
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: to happen, based on how much respect they've given him

1179
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: thus far, Like you can't you can't be the five

1180
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: and six hitter and then get cut. You have to

1181
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: be the five and six hitter and then the seven

1182
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: hitter and then the eight hitter and then get cut right.

1183
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: Like he's still hitting in front of James McCann and

1184
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil. Granted, it's bad decision making that shouldn't be happening,

1185
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: but it does seem like, at least right now, in

1186
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: the current you know, structure of the New York Mets,

1187
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: he's somewhat valuable to them. Now should he be this valuable?

1188
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I think me and James are on the same page here.

1189
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, but that's what the outlook is right now.

1190
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: And I do think that, you know, along with the

1191
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: twenty million dollar price tag that you're gonna have to

1192
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: pay him for the next couple of years here. Still,

1193
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: I think they like his presence in the clubhouse too,

1194
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: Like even when Pete got had that like rough day,

1195
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: got hit in the head or whatever, and where he

1196
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: got taken out for defense the other day for Tom

1197
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: he was kind of like talking to him and like

1198
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: keeping him calm and almost like just keeping him loose,

1199
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: being like, hey man, listen, like we don't know what

1200
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: they're talking about. But he's almost like having another coach

1201
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: out there for these players, because he's a little bit

1202
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: of like a bridge between probably bucking these guys in

1203
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: a way just age wise, but that's not enough to

1204
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: be keeping a guy on a roster that desperately needs

1205
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: to get a little bit more or a little more

1206
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: value out of a spot that's right now getting nune,

1207
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: especially when we're gonna be at the point next week

1208
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: where the Mets basically have to cut one of their

1209
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: bench players to keep a four man bench and because

1210
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to carry a minimum thirteen pitchers. Now

1211
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: that you are allowed to carry a fourteenth pitcher, something

1212
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: that came down from Major League Baseball on I think

1213
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: that was Tuesday, they mentioned they announced that, Yeah, so

1214
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: a lot of their teams in baseball will mostly have

1215
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: probably three man benches and fourteen pitchers. The Mets will

1216
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: do a four man bench and thirteen pitchers. But if

1217
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: you have a four man bench and three of those

1218
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: bench players in a given night are JD. Davis who

1219
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: can play third base a little bit, Dom Smith who

1220
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: can only play first, and robson Cano who can play

1221
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: second base a little bit, and a backup catcher, that's

1222
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: a week bench. That's a bench that puts you at

1223
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: disadvantage against most other teams.

1224
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: And National League and all of baseball. It's hard. It's

1225
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: gonna be very hard for the Mets to get away

1226
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: with that and not see it impact them an lea basis.

1227
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this ties in nicely with another

1228
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: question we got from if you were Christina at worsted

1229
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: Rex two, who do you guys think is likely to

1230
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: be cut when the teams have to lower their rosters

1231
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: to twenty six? Which I think is the conversation here.

1232
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean looking at options because you want to find

1233
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: guys that have options that can go down, and there

1234
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: are some names of dudes that could go down. Now.

1235
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: Would I make this move? Absolutely not. You're not setting

1236
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: down Jeff McNeil. You're not sitting down Pete Alonzo. They

1237
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: have options not happening on the bench right now. JD

1238
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: has two, Luis ki Ormy has one. Dom Smith has two.

1239
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: You're sending Dom down no because that you don't really

1240
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: have a backup first baseman. You're sending JD down no

1241
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: because he's your right handed bat off the bench. Giormey

1242
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: is probably the realistic option, but in a world whereas

1243
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: Luis ki Ormey versus Robinson Cano, it sounds crazy. But

1244
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Luis ki Ormay has more value to this team right now.

1245
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: At significantly What if again knocking out Wood, whether Francisco

1246
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: Lindor gets hit in like the kneecap in a game

1247
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: and he has to miss the rest of the game.

1248
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: With Nie Swelling who plays shortop, Luikime is now on

1249
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: the roster, Jeff McNeil and Jeff McNeil's playing shortstop, who

1250
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: is in the outfield, Like, there's so many things that

1251
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: can go wrong without versatility on your bench. And we

1252
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: see a team like the Yankees who have like one

1253
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: of the most of our to tyler rosters in baseball.

1254
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: They're rosters o vers tylid. Right now, they're only carrying

1255
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: three bench players because they have Tim Lecastro, Marvin Gonzalez,

1256
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: DJ Lemayhew Isaia Kienair Falleffa. They have guys who can

1257
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: play all over the diame and that allows them to

1258
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: carry more pitchers. And when you have very good pitchers

1259
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: like the Yankees do, and like it seems like the

1260
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: Mets have built a bit more pitching depth than we

1261
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: may have assumed coming into the year, you want to

1262
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: keep these guys in the roster because they can be

1263
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: used as weapons and having three guys on your bench

1264
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: who really can't give you almost any defensive value, and

1265
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: almost none of them are even returning heavy positive offensive value.

1266
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: Right now, it starts to become a question of why

1267
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 2: is everybody here and how long are they going to stay?

1268
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then on the pitching side, the guys who

1269
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: have options left are Seth Lugo, Drew Smith, Tyler McGill,

1270
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: and Ewan Lopez, who obviously we talked a little about

1271
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about earlier legend. So Jowan Lopez is

1272
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: probably the likely guy to go down if they have

1273
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: to send anybody down on the pitching side, because Sean

1274
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: rie Fully and Trevor Williams, who were probably the most

1275
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: expendable pictures.

1276
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: We talked about this the other day with the Donnis Medina,

1277
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: Joan Lopez going to go down on Saturday for Taiwan Walker.

1278
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jowan Lopez has two options as well, so

1279
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: it's not like they even lose him if they want to.

1280
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really tough. The roster crunch is going

1281
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: to be there's gonna be someone who's a major league

1282
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: baseball player that is going to be cut essentially from

1283
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: this New York Mets scene.

1284
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a chance that they just send

1285
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 2: a guy like JD down, just tell him it's gonna

1286
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: be short term while they work out what's gonna happen

1287
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: between Dom and Gno, because he has options and like

1288
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna be embarrassing for a guy like ja D. Davis,

1289
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: who's above average major league hitherer to go down. But

1290
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: they tell him like this is just this is literally

1291
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: just business, like we don't want to have to DFA

1292
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: somebody and you have an option and you're like a

1293
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: bit extraneous to this roster. But also you see we've

1294
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: seen a few times this season lefties come in the

1295
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: game against Mets and just kind of have their way

1296
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: with parts of this order. We don't really have that

1297
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: strong right handed presence on the bench besides JD. Davis.

1298
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: So you lose him and you lose an element there too.

1299
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: Can't really get rid of him. That's why it's so weird,

1300
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: and it like the elephant in the room is Robinson Cano.

1301
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: That's the obvious choice. It feels like from every standpoint

1302
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: outside of financials, which you want to cut a guy

1303
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: that you're gonna pay forty million dollars student ever play again.

1304
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: They bought out Bobby Bonilla. You can buy out Robinson

1305
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: Cano and do some crazy contract where you're paying him

1306
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: a million dollars for the next one hundred years. I mean,

1307
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: he's forty years old right now, He's not gonna live

1308
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: one hundred Just say a million dollars for one hundred years.

1309
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: But I do think what you said before is true

1310
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: about him having presence in this clubhouse him and being

1311
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: very respective for Evan. Robinson Cano, if not for these

1312
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: steroid suspensions, would be approaching the three thousand hit club

1313
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: this season and literally the Hall of Fame as one

1314
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: of the best offensive second basemen in the history of

1315
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: the sport. And I think a lot of players still

1316
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: see him that way. I don't know how reforms enhancing

1317
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: drug suspensions like go over within like in players' minds,

1318
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: but you just look at the way the hitters and

1319
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: the team gravitate, gravitate to him, especially the young Latin players,

1320
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: and he clearly has some weight. So if they just

1321
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: wake up one day and he's dfade, it might be weird.

1322
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: But we've seen a lot of teams do similar moves

1323
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: in the last year. The Angels have done twice in

1324
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: twelve months, like teams do this. I don't know, I

1325
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: really know what's gonna happen, but he is the obvious

1326
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: choice if I was making decisions. Also, not my money.

1327
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't have to look at the owner and be like,

1328
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: can we have a twenty million we were fifty million

1329
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: check like we can't. I can't do that. My friend

1330
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: who works in the Astros organization, we talked about the

1331
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: other day. I spoke with him on the phone. He

1332
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: was talking about a situation similar to this where they

1333
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: have Pedro Bias on the roster who they signed to

1334
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: a relatively big contract for reliever. I believe was after

1335
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty World Series, that the twenty seven percent

1336
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: of a World Series that the Dodgers won. And he's

1337
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: just been stinking like since he left the team. He's

1338
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: coming to the Astros with absolutely no juice in his arm.

1339
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: And just a few days ago they finally made a

1340
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: decision to cut him and get a real player on

1341
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: the roster. But he said, like, it's much different angle

1342
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: when you look at that internal levers externally because the

1343
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: general manager. This is a little different because this gerald

1344
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: managers signed that player. He has to go to his

1345
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: owner and say I made a mistake that costs you

1346
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: a significant amount of money. Now you have to trust

1347
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: me again that getting rid of this guy will not

1348
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: compound our problem. Getting a new player on this roster

1349
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: will help solve it. And that is kind of the

1350
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: crux of the Robins and Cano issue.

1351
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Mets, I think, want to be the

1352
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: best team they possibly can moving forward, at least in

1353
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: my mind and maybe yours two James, I don't know,

1354
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: it's probably without Robinson Cano on this roster.

1355
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Probably, And that's not saying that no team with koop mum.

1356
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: I do think a team would actually find a way

1357
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: scoop Robins and can go up.

1358
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: He's free. You'll the Reds will scoop him up and

1359
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: he'll play second base and they'll put Jonathan India shortstop

1360
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. They'll do some crazy shit.

1361
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of teams I could probably just

1362
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: use a left handed bat with some power, or maybe

1363
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: a lot of teams think he's cooking. He doesn't get

1364
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: picked up. I saw someone of my mentions on Twitter

1365
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, was like, we can't cut Robbie.

1366
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: Go to the Bronx and at three hundred.

1367
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, you can't.

1368
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: Just can't think like that. You can't think like that.

1369
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: First of all, just I don't care about patting average

1370
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: in the slightest and second of all, like, there's no

1371
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: way Robinson Cano is gonna put on different jersey and

1372
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden have new powers. Like we've

1373
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: watched him play for a few weeks now, he's just

1374
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: not athletic. He's not lifting the ball, and he's not

1375
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: hitting a particularly hard on a regular basis. Like it's

1376
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: hard to reason with the fact that he's going to

1377
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: get significantly better.

1378
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Here all the things that happened with old players when

1379
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: they start to actually be old, the things that go

1380
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: immediately is what has happened to Robinson Canol.

1381
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: Like he didn't play for a year.

1382
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: He didn't play for a whole year, and like, can't

1383
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: really blame the guy. And when he was playing, when

1384
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: we saw him at his healthiest, we know he was

1385
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of help. So we don't actually

1386
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: know how long Robinson can go has probably been feeling

1387
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: like this old man that we currently see on the

1388
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: field right now. It's man, I'm I will say this,

1389
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, is not my money, Thank goodness, is not

1390
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: your money, and thank goodness, we don't actually have to

1391
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: make this decision, because I can imagine Billy Eppler right

1392
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: now is just going I can't. I can't get him

1393
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: stuck in this situation right now, Like I gotta go

1394
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: Steve Cohen even though he didn't make the trade. It's hey,

1395
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: Steve a forty mil or keep Robinson Cano on the team,

1396
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: and we are worse. It's tough.

1397
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: Also seems like teams just know how to beat Robinson

1398
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: Cano this year, like he's chasing everything. He's in the

1399
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: first percentile on all of baseball and chase trade. That

1400
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: means he's chasing. He's swinging pitches outside of the strike

1401
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: zone at a rate higher than almost every other player

1402
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: in the entire league. And a big part of that

1403
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: is the fact that he's getting a very very steady

1404
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: dose of breaking balls. And Robson Can Know's entire career

1405
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: the most breaking balls he's ever phased percentage wise in

1406
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: the season twenty six point four percent, and that was

1407
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. With the Mariners. So far this season, Romson

1408
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Cano's facing over thirty three percent breaking balls and fifty

1409
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: one percent fastballs down from usually being guy who sees

1410
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: more sixty percent fastballs for the course of his career.

1411
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: And on those breaking balls, he's whiffing thirty eight percent

1412
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: of the time. And his cumulative launch angle on every

1413
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: breaking ball has been put in play, it's only nine.

1414
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: So it's like a meaningless samples, a stupid stat. But

1415
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: I think it's just funny to mention it from watching

1416
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: these games, his negative ten everything, Like the nine breaking

1417
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: balls that he's put in play, they've all been pounded

1418
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: directly into the ground.

1419
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I will say too, is like Cano's

1420
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: batsby definitely isn't there, so it feels like he's probably

1421
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: cheating the fastball, which is why anytime it's relatively close

1422
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: to the zone he's like, I'm gonna swing cause if

1423
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: it's a fastball, I gotta hit it. Can't let those, Yeah.

1424
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: And they just swing and missing at the breaking balls.

1425
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: It's not it's just it's just not good right now.

1426
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: And he might get somewhat better because he is still

1427
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: like there's something in his bones that makes him good

1428
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: to baseball, But I don't know, man, it'd be shocking.

1429
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: It was a fun bit early in the year, but

1430
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: it's just he's just not hitting it hard.

1431
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: No, he's not hitting it hard, all right, Eric breaks

1432
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: coming to us asking what's our favorite pitching metric to

1433
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: judge a player on. I'll let James go first. Since

1434
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: is the pitching guru.

1435
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: Not pitching guru. I'm a pitching guy. Don't call me

1436
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: a google.

1437
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: Yet, I'm the pitching whisperer.

1438
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can give me that right now, because

1439
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: that's kind of more of like a weird novelty title.

1440
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: Guru is like you need way more knowledge be a guru.

1441
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm not guru. But my my favorite thing to look

1442
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: at with pictures is I mean it sounds gonna sound

1443
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: kind of weird, like real like new school backwards baseball,

1444
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: but like I just like seeing velocity. I like seeing

1445
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: the way guys pitches move like baseball. Savan has really

1446
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: cool tables if you scroll down a pitcher's page where

1447
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: it will list every single one of their pitches along

1448
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: with the horizontal and vertical movement, and it'll highlight rather

1449
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: blue based on how far above league average that pitch

1450
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: moves but horizontally and vertically. I love looking at that,

1451
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: and then with that strikeout rate, with rate and then

1452
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: things like swing strike rate, which is with rate but

1453
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 2: overall your pitches instead of all your swings, how often

1454
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: Hitler swings through it? And then past that, it just

1455
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: like when you really get down to naviy gritty, like

1456
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: how many pitches a guy throws when he doesn't excel

1457
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: in any of those other areas, Like that's how a

1458
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: guy like Chris Bassett kind of slips through the cracks

1459
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: of the average baseball fan because he doesn't have a

1460
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: high velocity, he doesn't really have any pitches that have

1461
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: really crazy specs. He's not getting tons of strikeouts or wis.

1462
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: But you look at the guy's repertoire, it's like six

1463
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: seven pitches deep five that he's on a regular basis

1464
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: that that's an impressive profile. So it might be a

1465
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: little nuance. There's no real answer to that question, but

1466
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: I like pitch movement and swings and misses.

1467
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, I'm gonna go with the K rate.

1468
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Love k rate love walk rate. I love those two stats.

1469
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: It's just if you can strike out a lot of

1470
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: batters and you don't walk a lot of guys, you're

1471
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: probably pretty oh with.

1472
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: That K minus walk great K minus walk greate is

1473
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 2: incredibly valuable stats to look out for a picture I

1474
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: totally forgot fangrass makes it nice and neat and uh

1475
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: in like the third table they show on the player's page,

1476
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: and that over time has proven to be one of

1477
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 2: the most meaningful stats with spotting pitching breakouts and just

1478
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: identifying who the best pitchers in the league are.

1479
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: You strike out guys, you don't walk guys, and good recipe,

1480
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: you get swings and missus and don't put guys on

1481
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: base for free. And I'll be boring too. I still

1482
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: care about ERA, even though I know phip's technically a

1483
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: better stat I look at as well.

1484
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: But Pip's okay. I don't think FIP is like the

1485
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: beyond end all things, like I think SIERRA is probably

1486
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: better than FIP NX FIP and you are you RA

1487
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: is like when you look at like a full seasons

1488
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: worth of stats, like if you're looking at last year

1489
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: of the year before. I do think ERA has some value,

1490
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Speaker 2: especially when you like understand the context of it, like

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Speaker 2: when you see a guy like Aaron Nola who has

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Speaker 2: like a ridiculous ERA, but his FIP and his ex

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Speaker 2: FIP are significantly lower than that you know that the

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Speaker 2: Phillies defense is awful, so that's gonna make his FIP significly.

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Speaker 2: Loan his ra and Aaron Nola plays in a park

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Speaker 2: that allows a lot of home runs, and his repertoire

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Speaker 2: is susceptible to home runs, so it's gonna make his

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Speaker 2: x FIP lower because x FIP takes your FIP, but

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Speaker 2: it gives you a league average home run rate, and

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Speaker 2: that you shouldn't really be using a league average home

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Speaker 2: run rate for all guys because some guys have reasons

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Speaker 2: they have higher lower home run rates. Like that's a skill,

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00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: like launch angle suppression lot like manipulating a hit. There's

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Speaker 2: launch angles of skill. Keeping the ball in the yard

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Speaker 2: is a skill. So that's something that's important, I think.

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Speaker 2: But of all the like, I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't really love those full rate stats. Unlest'm looking

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Speaker 2: at a full year of a pitcher because it just

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Speaker 2: takes them too long to become stable.

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Speaker 1: I also love a good whip. I love a good

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Speaker 1: whip with a solid stat because walks, hits, per ratings pitched.

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Speaker 1: Hey you have you have an under one whip. I

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Speaker 1: promise you you're a good pitcher. You are doing something right.

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Speaker 2: The guy who invented whip like fifty ish years ago,

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Speaker 2: that's that's just a great move.

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Speaker 1: Well, it hit the nail on the head. Hit yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely nail and crushed it. So I think that's a

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Speaker 1: good place to end our mail bag. We'll be doing that,

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Speaker 1: I think like every midweek episode. Now it's fun get

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Speaker 1: some interaction with the fans as we always like to do. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and preview the Philadelphia Philly series where

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Speaker 1: we've got what three games going up against Philly Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

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Speaker 1: all night games. I would have liked the day game

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Speaker 1: sprinkled in there, but we got Sunday night baseball as well,

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Speaker 1: so not getting Gary keithan ron. But the boys will

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Speaker 1: be at the park, so we'll be, yeah, we'll be.

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Speaker 2: There'll be at least one messed up representative at the

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Speaker 2: park every game the series.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yes, So if you guys see us again, say

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Speaker 1: what's up, we'll have some stickers for you to give out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stickers and just some good some good, jolly laughs.

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Speaker 2: There is also such a massive break from the first

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: home series they or every game wasn't a day game.

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Speaker 1: It's just like the night. I love a good day game, though,

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Speaker 1: I really like this Saturday.

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Speaker 2: The game should have been a one o'clock game.

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00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Should have been should have locked in it at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock. Maybe they got a Fox.

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00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: Game and it is the Fox game. Looking at it

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Speaker 2: right now, yes, is yeah, we got that. The Mets

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: of the hot ticket, now, dude.

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00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: Can you blame them? I mean, look look at the

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: how this team has been playing. We should be the

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00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: hot ticket, especially if we're starting brawls. That's good TV.

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Speaker 1: I montre runs through pitching matchups here, James, what are

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00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: we looking at all?

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: Right? Friday night, we have what I think is the

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00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: marquee match of this whole series, Tyler McGill versus Aaron Nola.

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: We know what Aaron Nola does to the Mets, especially

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: in city field, and we saw what Tyler McGill to

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: the Phillyes last out. That's gonna be a fascinating one. Saturday,

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00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: we have the softest matchup in this year is but

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00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: very important to the Mets is the return of Taiwan

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00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: Walker coming back from the IL after the shoulder Beside

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00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: this and his only other start of the year was

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00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: also against the Phillies, which is kind of funny. He

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00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: also looked at that and Kyle Gibson, who's been i'd

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Speaker 2: say better than I expected so far coming into the year.

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: He's running like a top fifty whift rate in all

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Speaker 2: of baseball. So he's a guy who I could see

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Speaker 2: some strikeouts start to pour out for him. And lastly,

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Baseball, Big night for the Metsta podcast here

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Speaker 2: Max Scherzer versus Zach Eflin on ESPN. Baby, it's gonna

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: be a fun one and that's gonna be fun to

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00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: see Scherzer night game, Sunday Night Baseball going up against

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Speaker 2: the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: That should be some fun. H I think I feel

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Speaker 1: good the way the Mets team's playing again. We should

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: be winning. We should be beating bad teams that were

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00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: better then, and we are better than the Phillies. I

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00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: think right now, Harper is still on the mend a

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Speaker 1: little bit right He's just dhing right now. I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Harper has only been dhing for a little bit over

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: a week, and he's going to dh for this early

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00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: said another full entire week until May thirties. He has

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Speaker 1: a barking elbow which has to be terrifying for the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: who kind of built this entire hodgepodge of a team

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Speaker 1: on the fact that they would have one elite outfield

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01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: defender in Bryce Harbor and right kind of holding it up.

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Speaker 1: And now they have Odubel Herrera flanked by Nick Castianos

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Schwarber out there. Put the ball in the air,

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Speaker 1: city Field, it might be dropping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did call up Roman Quinn the other day

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01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: after they send down Bryson Stott.

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Speaker 1: They have Roman Quinn again.

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on the Marlins to start the year.

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Speaker 1: How'd he get back in Philly?

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Speaker 2: You're doing straight too far from homeland, baby.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Roman Quinn. That's crazy that he somehow

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Speaker 1: found his way back to Philly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they need the defensive outfield. And Bryson Scott

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Speaker 2: was four for thirty in the Major leagues with one

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Speaker 2: extra bays hit, So, I mean, Brice Style still be

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01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: a good player, but he's not in the team this

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: time around because kind of Alec Bohm took that third

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01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: base spot back from him. He now makes routine plays

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: most of the time, which is a big deal, and

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Speaker 2: hits the ball hard consistently.

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Speaker 1: That's what you get for being Bryson Scott with that

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Speaker 1: name and those walk up songs. You just you need

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01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: to get sent back down, get away out e check.

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Speaker 2: Come back to that music. Yeah, come back up with

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01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: good music. That's it. And then I mean otherwise we

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01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: miss Corey Kniebel in the last yeries. Hopefully we don't

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: have to see him one time in this one. We

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01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: didn't see Zach Eflin either. Zach Eflin's just a good, sturdy, solid,

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01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: right good pitcher. It's be a good series. But this

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01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: a theme early on in the Met season. We seem

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Speaker 2: to have a pitching of the enage of most of

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Speaker 2: the games. Aaron nola Is Ben and Tyler McGill. I

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Speaker 2: will I'm not that much of a homer right now,

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Speaker 2: and actually in Taiwan, Walker probably is about maybe a

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01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: shade wars and Gibson just because we don't know exactly

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01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: what he's gonna do, what he's gonna look like. But

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Speaker 2: with double Heather on Tuesday against Atlanta that the Boys

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: will also be at Big Medic, a lot of Mets

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01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: games going on here, it's very important to get some

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01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: depitching in this series and like put try and put

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 2: this Philly team out of its misery early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep rolling, keep the good vibes, keep the offense,

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Speaker 1: keep the pitch, and keep everything going in the right direction.

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: And hopefully we hear a lot of those trumpets this weekend.

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01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz, I want to see some saves. I want

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Speaker 1: him to shut it down, as John Taffer would say. So,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect place to end today's episode

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Speaker 1: of The Mess Up Podcast, Episode number eighty seven percent

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Speaker 1: by the seven line. Make sure you guys are following

1628
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: us on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, everything at Mets stuff, you'll

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01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: be able to find us. Yeah, we're rocking seven lines

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Speaker 1: today to seventh line. Hell yeah, Tuesday we'll be at

1631
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: the seven line game as well with the seven line,

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Speaker 1: which would be a lot of fun. Random rambling here

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01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: as I continue to do the outro.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's good because you can't do any interest. Now,

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01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: get it all out in the outro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get it all out in the outro. Listen to

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Speaker 1: us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcasts. Wherever you listen,

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to find a drop. This review drops

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01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: a rating. I'm asking you guys, do it for us.

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: Help us out and follow James on Twitter at your

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Speaker 1: had no range. Follow me at your raffnick mark anything else.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna cut it there.

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01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: We're said, dude, I'm ready to rock.

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01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: Let's cut it there.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, guys, see you next time.