1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: joining us. We're so excited to be back. Hello Susan, 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Hello Kathy. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: And we are here. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: And if you people haven't followed us yet, you're gonna 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: miss it. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we've had some good, good stuff going on. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: They're following Susan. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: I know a lot of them are because they definitely 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: write me notes. 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Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: And we have some great questions today and a very 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: very handsome special guest. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: We do that. 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: I am going to quiz. 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get blind because I got him first. Today 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: we have fan favorite from gen season of the Bachelor 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: and Future Bachelor and Paradise Star. Who's going to be 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: dating me in Paradise? Jonathan Johnson is here? Yay, Jonathan, 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We are so you are too 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: cute for words. You really are. You are absolutely adorable. 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's I have so many questions, but can 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I just jump in with the first one? You are 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: twenty eight correct? 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Okay? And you're a I want to talk about lacrosse. 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: You're a lacrosse player, is that correct? What position did 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: you play or do you play? Say, say again, close defense? 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so my son played long stick d same. 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: Okay, that's a close long stick y same. 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: I was going to say I had I had a 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: feeling there with the same and he now refs. He's 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: like a state ref in Texas. Do you still play? 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Do you ref? What do you do? 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: No? I mean I have a whole lacrosse set up 45 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: in my backyard and me and my roommates we all 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: played in college and we'll just go back out there 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: throughout the day. 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: And where did you play? 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: I played at a school called tier Nevada University in Lake. 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Is it in the Sierra Nevadas in Lake? 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: It was a small club school, like nothing crazy. But 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 4: I just went because I love the game and wanted 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: to have fun and it was where I could snowboard 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: still and just having your time. 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: It's a great game, is it not? 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: You know it's the best. 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you, Jonathan, and see if 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: you know the answer to this question. What is the 59 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: NAT the national sport of Canada? Do you know? 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: Probably hockey? 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I would guess, Jonathan, what what sport are we talking about? 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: I figured it is a question because you brought it up. 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, you made it obviously. 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I was trying to throw you an easy pitch. 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: They're just trying to you know. 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: I know you guys are going to mess with me 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: a little bit. I don't want to jump. 68 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: We are not going to mess with you one little bit. 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna be with you in paradise. Why would we 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: mess with you on this? 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: Don't you think we should come? 72 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: I hope so we would have a ball, we. 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: Would have a bull. 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: But wait, before we get into all of it, I 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: am so curious. You know, the internet is the Internet 76 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: is the Internet. And everybody thought she ran to you 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: and used we're dating the whole nine. 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: You have your opportunity. Now tell us like it is. 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: Or not. 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I didn't hear you speak up, young man? 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: What do you want to know? 82 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Everything? Do you date? 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: Are you dating Jen? 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: No? But we do spend a lot of time together. 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: We get along great. She did not come running back. 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: I know I'm I were your age, I would have 87 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: done it. You know, I don't have gents hair, I 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: don't have her body. But those are just details. 89 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: I'm more of a personality guy. Anyways, you are, oh 90 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: big time? 91 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh, Susan, maybe it's not too late. Where's your father? 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm my that's very quiet guy. He 93 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: lives in Kansas City, but he's more soft spoken, handsome guy. 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 2: Is he single? 95 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Kathy, it's a shot for us us. 96 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: All right, so we're gon we're gonna get serious now, okay, 97 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: and then we'll come back to this too. 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: All right, all right the other day, go ahead. 99 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Do you think it's ever okay to keep secrets from 100 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: your partner? And if so, when is the time you 101 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: think it's okay to keep those secrets? 102 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: Only? Were very minimal things, I think. Okay, let's be 103 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: very specific here. 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: Okay. 105 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: She gets a new dress that she is fired up on. 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: You don't like it, but she feels incredible. How do 107 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: I look in this? You look smashing? It doesn't matter, 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how. 109 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: You your father trained you. 110 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: Well, you are well trained, Jonathan. 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: Wait their emotion of their state of mind. 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: Then all right, I'm going to give you some examples, 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: like if you're leading a crush and mean things you 114 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: might want to say during a fight, if a friend 115 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: or family member doesn't like them, would you keep those 116 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: things from them? 117 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: So what are you saying you get into a sibling fight? No? 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: No, No, Let's say your brother don't like the girl that 119 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: you're with. Are you going to tell the girl? Look, 120 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: my brother's not digging you. 121 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: So no, because my brother exactly to exactly like it 122 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: doesn't Oh, my family doesn't like you? What is that? Together? 123 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Are? What about if you what about if you like, 124 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: had a crush on a girl, like just a fleeting crush, 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: you know nothing, Are you going to tell her that 126 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: you've like, I gotta tell you, I have had this 127 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: little crush, but I'm kind of over it now you're 128 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: going to tell her? 129 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: I am very direct. Anytime I approach women or if 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: I have a crush on somebody, I let them know 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: almost immediately. I don't. There's no real back in life. 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: I wait, you tell the person you have a crush 133 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: on them? 134 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: Why don't I do that? 135 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: Because there's not enough time in the day for you 136 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: to tell the people that. 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: Behind the confidence of When a woman comes up to 138 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: a man and says I have a crush on you, 139 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: that it gets me every day, like I don't know 140 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: what it is. 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Wait, if a woman comes up to you and says 142 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I have a crush on you, you fall for her. 143 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: I don't fall for her, but I fall for the confidence. 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, let's let's talk. Let's see if 145 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: there's something here. 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Then Hey, Jonathan, I like it. I have a crush 147 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: on you. 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: Well, we still have another hour to talk, so let's 149 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: figure it out. 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are fabulous. 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: All right, Kathy, what would you do. 152 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: About a fleet of the brush? 153 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: No? No, do you think it's okay to keep secrets? 154 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm with Jonathan. I think you know, it depends on 155 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: what it is. 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: I would never want to hurt someone say. 157 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean my Honestly, my my in laws did 158 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: not like me very much because they you know who 159 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: knows why. And I really always hated that my that 160 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I knew that. I wish you know, I hadn't known, 161 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: although so I think it just depends on the circumstance. 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: I do. I think it depends. I'm also Jonathan extremely honest, 163 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: but it gets me into trouble sometimes. 164 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: Same but situation, I sugar. You need to hear the 165 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: hard truth sometimes too, and whether you like it or not, 166 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: like sometimes people need it, not like if a friend 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: of yours is messing up and they can't see it. 168 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes you got to be the one to be the 169 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: bearer of bad news and be like, you're really effing 170 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: things up right now and it's not okay. 171 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Susan did that to me today. 172 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: I do, but I sugarcoated and I'm very sweet about it. 173 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: But I do make my point. I mean, because you 174 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: love somebody, you don't want to have resentment or something, 175 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: so you need to get it out. You have to 176 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: say it like it is. 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: I'm a firm believer to it. You have an issue 178 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: with somebody, doesn't matter who it is, it's not fair 179 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: to that person to just have animosities towards them and 180 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: then not at all. 181 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: And to build resentment. 182 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but wait a minute, as Susan, I've spoken 183 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: about this. Don't you think delivery matters how you say it? 184 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 4: Can't yell at somebody who doesn't speak English and never 185 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: going to understand why you're angry. So communication is huge. 186 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: If they can't understand where you're coming from and how 187 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: are you saying it, it's not going to be received. 188 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: How you say it is just as important as how 189 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: it's received. 190 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that. All right, You're good in 191 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: my book so far. 192 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna we are gonna go ask 193 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: you some questions because you know, inquiring minds do want 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: to know. As like we said before, we cannot wait 195 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: to see you in Paradise because you'll be carrying our 196 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: luggage for us. But we wait. 197 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: Are you hoping that they do a Younger Ants and 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: Golden Paradise together? 199 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Did you ever hear that rumor? 200 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: We just heard that as soon as I got the 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: first invite after mental Hall like the Golden Ladies came up, 202 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't discriminate. I'll have fun to 203 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 4: hang out with whoever. I don't. I don't. 204 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I love him. You're fa and you know if if 205 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: you're if, get your heart broken, Susan and I'll be 206 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: there to console you. 207 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 3: Well, besides hoping that world'll be there, who else would 208 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: you hope to be there? 209 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I keep. 210 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: Getting asked this question. Part of my answer is new blood. 211 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 4: I don't have anybody, but it's partially because I haven't 212 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: seen everybody. And like I said, I'm a big personality. 213 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: Like I can see somebody be like, Wow, she's dropped dead, gorgeous, 214 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: like love her look, love the aesthetic of who she is. 215 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: But I'm not going to get conversation somebody if I 216 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 4: don't know who they are yet, right and that and 217 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: that kind of carries over into the thing, Oh. 218 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: Do you mean their personality? Jonathan? I lost you there. 219 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: You're saying she could be beautiful, but you have to 220 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: see what her personality is before you decide whether to 221 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: go in. Is that what you're saying? 222 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, she could be a ten out of ten. But 223 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: if I can't carry a conversation, I have the answer, 224 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: it's just not going to work out. 225 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: So can I just tell you I loved your butt 226 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: with the bandages and the whole gun. 227 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, like your butt hanging 228 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: out with that's just so good, It was so good. 229 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: I want to know other than it being a dick, 230 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: like did you stay up late at night? Like how 231 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: can I impress her? Like what went through your mind? 232 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: Honestly? I mean I think I'm just like a creative 233 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: guy in general. And immediately when I was going over ideas, 234 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: that was probably one of the top three or four 235 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: that came to me almost immediately, And then me and 236 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: my producer kind of built on it, and I was like, 237 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: can we make this happen? Is this possible? And we 238 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 4: landed on where if I. 239 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Came out, So, you know, I'm going to ask you, 240 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: what are you going to wear? If on Paradise? How 241 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: are you going to stroll into the beach? What are 242 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: you going to to do something new? Do you say 243 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: nude new? What are you gonna do? 244 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. Actually that's a really really good point 245 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: because that one was focused on the fact that Jen 246 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: is a pa. 247 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 3: Yeah right, So why don't you just come in with 248 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: like myself, a beautiful Italian suit with skinny leg pants 249 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: and great. 250 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Shoes, Susan stopping. 251 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: On a beach wear very short shorts. People seem to 252 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: love so. 253 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Can when I came in on our Golden Bachelor season 254 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and the producers, you know, they're asking, Uh, what did 255 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: you think about all the people that came in creatively, 256 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: because you know, somebody came in on a walk, or 257 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: somebody came in a birthday suit, somebody came in in 258 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: a wig and whatever. And I looked at him, I said, 259 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: I'd see it creatively. I walked, Yeah, that's that was like, 260 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, we had a few on our season, but 261 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: not not like that. 262 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: The guys were kind of tame on Jones. 263 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah they were. 264 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan covered his face too. 265 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: He's so cute, he's so he's adorable. But yeah, I 266 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: think he stole from you, Jonathan number one. I think 267 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan number two. 268 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: Both like yeah, but there's no woman that you wish 269 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: from any of the seasons that would be there, Nobody 270 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: in particular, like some fresh new meat. 271 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: Yes, nobody in particular. 272 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Yet Okay, I like it always way. 273 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: I want to go in with an open mind. I 274 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: don't want to come in there and be set on 275 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: one person. 276 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: Have something in your head, hell, lose sight. 277 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: And I don't see somebody who's amazing, like right there, 278 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: and I don't give that is. 279 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: That is smart? Jonathan? Okay, So I have a question 280 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: you I don't know where I read this, or maybe 281 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you said it on the show. I You've obviously received 282 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: an incredible out point of love, you know from from 283 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: the show You and everyone loves you. But what I 284 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: loved is you said I treat every girl the way 285 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I would want to see my mother and sister treated. 286 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: That's when we fell in That's. 287 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: When I fell in love right there, because that the 288 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: fact that you know that and want to treat a 289 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: woman that way says that you understand how a woman 290 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: wants to be treated. And it also says you treat 291 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: your mother sister. 292 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: Well, I try my best to. I've gotten a little 293 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: bit away from having the time to give to them 294 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: with all the attention and things that I have going on. Yeah, 295 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: but outside of that, when when I'm with them, you know, 296 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 4: I like to like to put my phone away, I 297 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: like to sit down and just listen. I like to 298 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: be attentive. I like to give them confidence, make sure 299 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: they feel comfortable, and a lot of that I treat 300 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: women kind of have come forward to, like even if 301 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: it's a girl friend, I don't care who it is. 302 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: Every time a woman gets into my car, the door 303 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: is open. Doors also open when she gets out, Like little, 304 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: very little things if they're cold my jacket. 305 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Like Jonathan, I have a what do you do for 306 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: a living? Right now? I guess you're busy with all this, right. 307 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: I'm a creative director, but like I make ads for companies. 308 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: For social Okay, I've got a new career for you. 309 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I'm not even joking. You need to open 310 00:14:54,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: up a business where you teach men civility and good 311 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: manners and how not to take if they're going on 312 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: websites dating websites, please do not take pictures of yourself, 313 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, naked from the bathroom, holding a beer in 314 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: the bathroom in a towel and holding up a dead fish. 315 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Like you could really educate men if they want to 316 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: find women. 317 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: I wanted to do that job, educate men on how 318 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: to get on dating sites. 319 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: A hard part for the longest time for me is 320 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: I think I am like like the stereotypical nice hair 321 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: people like nice guys finished last. And I believed that 322 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: for the longest time until I became very confident in 323 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: myself and I realized I could still win and treat 324 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: women with respect, whether it's even in the circumstances of 325 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: just hooking up somebody, you meet them for one night 326 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: and you hook up whatever. 327 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Susan, do you know I just learned what hooking up. 328 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: I had to get hooking. 329 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was all the way. Is that 330 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: what you're saying sleep with somebody? 331 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: This is multiple definitions of it, but that's what I'm saying. 332 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: But I think over time, I just learned that, Like 333 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: you don't have to act like a quote unquote dick 334 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: or like a guy that's just like so confident. So 335 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: it's like I'm not suave, I'm not smooth, and I 336 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: make people feel comfortable, okay, like they no matter the circumstance. 337 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: And are you taking a woman home to meet mama 338 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: when you hook up with her one night? Is that 339 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: the woman you're taking home to meet your mother? 340 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: No? I also have like a very friendly relationship with 341 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: my mom too, where I would introduce anybody to my mom. 342 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm asking. 343 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: I do know what you're asking. But also I don't 344 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: judge based on that. Some people just to them it's 345 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: it's fun and you have a connection with somebody and 346 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: it happens to be more than just emotional. Maybe it's 347 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: just physical that night too, Like you could connect emotionally 348 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: to the depth that you do physically too, And I 349 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: think that if that's where it leads, that's where it leads. 350 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: There's no right or wrong that situation. To me, I 351 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: don't think. I think everybody. 352 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: Susan looks like she said, Truck. 353 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: That's what I'm hoping for, not only physically, but emotionally 354 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: as well. 355 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And that's the thing too, is like it 356 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: won't happen, Like you can't just hook up with somebody, 357 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: I guess for me unless that emotional connection is also there. 358 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Have you hooked up with a woman for one night 359 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: that you were like, this is you know, she's attractive, 360 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: let's just go to bed together and have fun, And 361 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: the next day she thinks you're about to ask her 362 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: to get married. Has that ever happened? Jumps right in, 363 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: you know what. 364 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: I'm just honestly like, I'm not one to just like 365 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: hook up a bunch. It's just not my energy anymore. 366 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: But it does happen, Like when you do treat people 367 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: with respect and kindness like I like to. I think 368 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: in today's modern world, people and people men aren't as 369 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: respectful as they should be. They think that as this 370 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: guy wants to be with me, and it could get 371 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: you in trouble if you don't handle it in the 372 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 4: right right way, with being honest and upfront with that 373 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: person almost you. 374 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: And with respect. Yes, I have a big question. So 375 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: you're like, this king of medium Kings, can you tell 376 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 3: me what that is? 377 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Susan research, What the hell 378 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: does that mean? 379 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 4: King? 380 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: I know what I kept coming up on the internet. 381 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 3: A mattresses and what how do we make medium kings? 382 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Is a medium king? 383 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: What is it? Talk to us? 384 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 4: Before I went on the show was an ongoing joke 385 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: with a friend of mine that I was not a 386 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: short king. I wasn't a tall king or a tall guy. 387 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 4: I was. I was medium. I was perfectly average. 388 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: How tall are you? 389 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 4: Five eleven? 390 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a average. 391 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 4: I think five nine is actually the average. But medium 392 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: kings are the average five nine and five eleven somewhere 393 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: in that. And it became an ongoing joke and I 394 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: just became like a self proclaimed medium king. So by 395 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: the time I got on the show, I see all 396 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: monstrosities that they bring on to the back and I'm like, 397 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: what the hell am I doing here? 398 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: You can hold five out of it. 399 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 4: Because we had a comedy show in Australia. I did 400 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: a whole bit about being a medium king, and I 401 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: think people kind of ate it up. So that went 402 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: on Jen and all the guys knew me as a 403 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: medium king. The medium kid just told me that throughout 404 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: the season and we just had with it. Yeah, there 405 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: was the Bluepirt where Jen called me a medium king, 406 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: and then now the public knew about it, and we 407 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: just kind of ran that's. 408 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: What it's about. I didn't get it. 409 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I didn't i'd either, I swear I tried to figure 410 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: it out. 411 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: So are we medium queens? 412 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: I'll tell you five six eight? I mean technically yes, 413 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: But it's it's hard with women because I feel like 414 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: you're either just when you look at women, you're like, 415 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: she's either just tall or I mean, like for me, 416 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: I think a woman when she's like any from five 417 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 4: foot to five nine, it's just like average. I don't know. 418 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: I think strong. 419 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. I was. I was tall. 420 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: You get to my age and you start losing inches. 421 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: It sucks. 422 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: I don't put women in baskets even based on height. 423 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 4: That's just a disaster for me, and I will not. 424 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: What do you attract it to, like, what's your do 425 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: you have a certain like ooh, I'm legs, okay. 426 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: I'm very much like into fitness and taking care of yourself. 427 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: All right. 428 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: I have a question. Do you love being single and 429 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: what's the best part of it right now? Or is 430 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: there a least favorite thing about being single? I mean, 431 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: you're going on these shows to find love, correct. 432 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I love the freedom of being single, but 433 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: I would also love more than anything to find somebody 434 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: that is so independent but also put it in us 435 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: that I still get to almost live that free lifestyle 436 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: as far as like making like almost free decisions that 437 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: she supports what I mean, so that that mindset of 438 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: being able to live my life the way I want 439 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: to live it still exists. But I have somebody who's 440 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 4: in it, in it but like doing the same things themselves. 441 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: So we have this confidence on one another where we 442 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: get to bounce off each other and be like, oh 443 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: my god, you gotta go do that. Have so much 444 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: fun doing that. I'm gonna go do this too, And 445 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 4: when we have time, we're gonna come together and we're 446 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 4: going to share this amazing love and life together. So 447 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a bounce where I want 448 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 4: somebody who wants to do the same things I do 449 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: and continue to take advantage of life. 450 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: And some women are more needy of your time, I think, 451 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 3: and they don't have enough on their yeah, enough on 452 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: their own, and that's why it would become a problem 453 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: then for you to do your thing without Yeah, I get. 454 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: It all right, so quickly just before we move into 455 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: our next thing, because we're going to answer some fan 456 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: questions and you're going to help give advice. What do 457 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: you have advice for people? Because you seem like a 458 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: really positive, upbeat guy, but how do you what advice 459 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: do you give for staying positive when others around you, 460 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, have found love and you're still dating. I 461 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: realized you like the freedom, but what advice? How do 462 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: you stay positive? 463 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's delusion. 464 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: I'm a positive person. 465 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm not eve gonna say I'm a delusionary too soon, 466 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: I know. 467 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: I think if you truly believe in success and manifestation 468 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: of any kind, that your time will come. Like I 469 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: know my success financially and career driven, like I just 470 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: know it's going to work out, and I'm like, ime 471 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 4: will come I'm just staying on this path. And I 472 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: feel that same way about I have friends that are married, 473 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 4: multiple friends that are married, and friends that have kids, 474 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: and I'm going to baby shower next Sunday and these 475 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: are best friends from childhood, and not a single part 476 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: of me has envy and way. It's like, God, I 477 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 4: wish I was there right now. I wish I was 478 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 4: here for this or that I know my time has 479 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: come because I wouldn't have had the growth that I've 480 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: had right been part of this amazing opportunity if I 481 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: was already in a relationship. So now I get to 482 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 4: enjoy this and appreciate that it came out way. 483 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: Everything in its time, right, everything. 484 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: In this time exactly. 485 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: Wait, all right, well that's a great answer, because I 486 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: think everything will come. I think you're right. Believe, believe 487 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: and believe. 488 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: I believe it. 489 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: I am worthy dreamer, and I believe it's coming. 490 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: All right, YouTube Dreamers, We're moving on here. We're going 491 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: to go through some questions and Johnathan, you're going to 492 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: give advice. The first one is from Stephan or Steven, 493 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: but I'm going with Stephan because that's how it's spelled. 494 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: He's thirty eight from Durham, North Carolina. Go Blue Devils, 495 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: Duke Greeting's Susan and Cathy. I am writing in because 496 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: my mom loves you too, and I am seeing her 497 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: struggling with something. I'm a mama's boy and I need 498 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: to try to help. So I thought that maybe she 499 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: will listen to you guys if I play this back 500 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: for her. She's been dating someone for the past six 501 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: months who I just don't think treats her well at all. 502 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: For context, my dad passed away eight years ago and 503 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: he was a wonderful guy and treated her like the 504 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: queen she is, so now I have very high standards 505 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: for the kind of guy who should date her, and 506 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: she thinks it's just because I don't want her to 507 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: move on for my dad. That's not the case. I 508 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: really do want her to be happy. But this guy 509 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: is just a jerk. He expects her to pay for dates, 510 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: leaves are hanging about plans for days on end, and 511 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: always cancels on her last minute, like when she's already 512 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: ready for a date. It's not crossed a dangerous line 513 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: or anything like that, thankfully, It's just that he's not 514 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: a good guy and I hate to see my mom 515 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: sat all the time when she should be putting herself 516 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: out there to meet someone better. What do you think 517 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: this mama's boy should do? Feel free to share advice, 518 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: both for me and for her. I'm going to make 519 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: her listen to this. Thank you, ladies, and Jonathan, what 520 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: do you. 521 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: I love this guy for writing this? 522 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think this is? 523 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: Because this is the situation I sit in. Actually, So 524 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: I have seen a mom. She's fifty five, and I've 525 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: never seen her married since I've been born. 526 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: So does she date Jonathan? 527 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: She yes, and no. I don't really, I don't know. 528 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 4: I haven't said that. I haven't lived at home in 529 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 4: a while, like ten years, so I haven't really gotten 530 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: a chance to like sit down and really get into 531 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: this topic with her. But for me, when I do 532 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 4: see her date, I focus on her happiness in the situation. So, 533 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: whether I love the guy or not, I ask her 534 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 4: how she feels about it. Is she happy? Is she comfortable? 535 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: Does she feel safe and secure? If all those answers are. 536 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: Yes, then then your mind your business. 537 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 4: Not up to me. I'm not dating him. I don't 538 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 4: have the end all be all decision in that. But 539 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: if one of those main points doesn't check out, she's 540 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 4: not happy, she doesn't feel safe, and she doesn't feel 541 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 4: secure in it. I'm like the main advocate for being like, hey, 542 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: we need you to really think about it because I 543 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: can't tell. I've learned this every time you can't tell somebody, 544 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: especially a woman's ways at this point, like that she's 545 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: doing things wrong, you know, So trying to make sure 546 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: they take a chance to reflect on the relationship and 547 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: hopefully know better than what they deserve. And that's all 548 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: I can do and be her support. 549 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: You hit on it, Jonathan Stefan. Your mom. She may 550 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: be perfectly happy with this, and it's up to you 551 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: to respect your mom, lover. But at the end of 552 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the day, day if if I don't hear her complaining, 553 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: I don't I hear her him saying that he's not 554 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: good enough her. I don't hear him saying that his 555 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: mother is miserable. 556 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know what if he's witnessing his mother 557 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: being sad and he's canceling dates after she already got ready, 558 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: why wouldn't you say something? 559 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I would say something. But he's not worth it, mom, 560 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: But he's but she's he says, I hate to see 561 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: my mom sad all the time. But I don't hear 562 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: that the mom is communicating with him. You know, I 563 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: can't do any better than this or you know anything 564 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: that she's not verbalizing anything in this letter. So Stefan, 565 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: I think you need to look carefully. Clearly, the guy's 566 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: not up to your standards. But unfortunately he may be 567 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: what she's happy with it. He may be good enough. 568 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: She may be happy to settle. 569 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: That's a terrible word. 570 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: She should not settle, ever, agree. But if somebody cancels 571 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: that many times, it makes me sad and expects her 572 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: to pay for the dates. 573 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: And you're saying for days on end. 574 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: And then your son you excuse me what, you wouldn't 575 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: wait for your son to say these things? You will 576 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: not wait for I'm saying she should, but she's not well, 577 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: then he should bring it to her attention. 578 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can only do so much for somebody. There's 579 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: only a certain extent in which you can make things happen. 580 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: People have themselves in order to make a change exactly, 581 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: and that's really tough. So you have to help guide 582 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: them and support them in that correct decision. 583 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: That's sad. 584 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to stand by and watch it, but 585 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: step on. Thank you and I'm glad you love your 586 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: mom so much. Talk some sense into her. 587 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 588 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: This next one's from Chloe and she is forty three 589 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 3: from Waterloo, Ontario. Hey, ladies, I love the pod and 590 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm hoping for some words of encouragement. Right now, all 591 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: of my best friends are either having or have had 592 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: baby slash families, and I'm feeling so much jealousy and sadness. 593 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: Being in my early forties. This has been the norm 594 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: for a while, but now it's all my closest friends, 595 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: and I feel like I'm getting to a point where 596 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: it may be too late for me by the time 597 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: I meet someone. I literally had a best friend and 598 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: my cousin tells me this week that they're pregnant. I 599 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: am truly beyond happy for my friend and don't want 600 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: to bring them down, but I'm struggling emotionally. When my 601 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: best friend told me, I actually cried about it for 602 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: the rest of the night, which made me feel like 603 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: a horrible person. Any advice on how to try to 604 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: be happy for them while also feeling sad for myself, 605 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: and how to set boundaries with them without sounding like 606 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: I am not wanting to be a part of their 607 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: pregnancy or their kids' lives. Appreciate you guys so much. 608 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: Oh that breaks my heart. It's not too late, first 609 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: of all. Second of all, of course you're going to 610 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: feel sad because that's something that you want it. You 611 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: are absolutely normal. I don't think there's anything at all 612 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: wrong with you. And you will be a part of 613 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: your friend's babies' lives. You just want it for yourself. 614 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what do you think, guys. 615 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Well, I will just quickly add that my daughter had 616 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: her first baby, and several of her friends are in 617 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: their late thirties and early forties, and they verbalize exactly this. 618 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, they're happy, but they feel like the window 619 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: is closing for them, and you know, realistically it may 620 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: be closing for them, not necessarily marriage, but having children. 621 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's like Jonathan, you said, you just 622 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: have to sort of live your life and celebrate the 623 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: time that you are in in your life. And and 624 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: if you celebrate that, then other opportunities come your way. 625 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: And you you know, I think that she can be 626 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: friends and should support them and love them, but it's 627 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: okay to feel sad, but also realize that other incredible 628 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: opportunities may be come in your way. 629 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me, this is a really hard 630 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: one to answer, you know, especially as a man. You know, 631 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 4: it's it's really hard to look at that and not 632 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: be like, well, you shouldn't let other people's successes bring 633 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: you down. That right feels like a source of like envy, 634 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: where it's like you people like you shouldn't be matter. 635 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: But it's not that easy, you know. I think there's 636 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: a lot of societal pressure and physical pressure even to 637 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: have kids at a certain age, and you have a 638 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: biological clock that you're abiding by. So for me, it's 639 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: just like I guess from from a guy's perspective, it's 640 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: more just keep your head up and if that's something 641 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: you really really want, and if it's you want it 642 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: so bad that you don't care that you have a partner, 643 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: you can there's other forms of making that happen right 644 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: for yourself. So it's it's it's a tough one. I 645 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: I wish her the absolute best, and I hope she 646 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: kind of comes to conclusion on what she wants, because 647 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: if she wants a family with a person, maybe she 648 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 4: waits to find the person and then adopts. 649 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, or you could just go get That's what I mean. 650 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: That's what I meant when I said being open to 651 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: other opportunities adoption or seracy to be a mother. 652 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: She could go to a fertility clinic and speak to 653 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 4: a mother and find somebody later and the right person 654 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 4: will be perfectly okay with that. 655 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do feel for and like I said, it's 656 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: okay to feel a little bad for yourself because you 657 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: are a little envious of that. You know, it's normal normally. 658 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: I got a little sad on that one. Well, but 659 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: you know what, Jonathan, you were awesome. I love your 660 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: words of wisdom here. You seem much more mature. 661 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: Than you actually your age. You got a good head 662 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: on your shoulders. 663 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, though, Susan, I think a lot 664 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: of the people that we have interviewed from Bachlorination. 665 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 2: I think they are chronologically. 666 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: You guys are obviously from where we sit. You know 667 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: you're really young. But you guys, you know, we've done 668 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: so many interviews at this point of Bachlorination people, and 669 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: you all have such wonderful perspective and joyful lives, and 670 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: even you've had some hard things you really have this 671 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: upbeat attitude of life is good and I'm I'm so 672 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: excited about where it's taking me in I for one, 673 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: thank you for you know, sharing that happiness with us. 674 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, And hopefully we'll be with you on paradise. 675 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: I would hope so. 676 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: And to like. 677 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 4: With the platform that I've been given in people give 678 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 4: it apparently yeah, gifted and the fact that people are 679 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 4: giving me so much love, all I want to do 680 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: is return that in spades, and I hope that people 681 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 4: take a little positivity and peace of mind from knowing 682 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: like it. 683 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: And that's to say Susan and I the thing that 684 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: we try to do is give people that positivity. But 685 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: also at our age, realize you're not invisible. Life is 686 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: not for get up, move enjoy life because this is 687 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: the last and best chapter of our lives. So it's 688 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: the same kind of thing, just at our age it 689 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: looks a little different. Well, listen, we can't wait to 690 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: see you again, Jonathan. Hopefully it's Bachelor in Paradise, but 691 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: now who knows. Be sure to follow us though on 692 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour because we do have new episodes coming 693 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: out every week. And if you liked what we did 694 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: today with Jonathan and our chats with him. You're gonna 695 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: love what's coming up next. 696 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, please just keep sending us these questions because we'll 697 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 3: do as much as we can to give you some advice, 698 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: whether it's good advice or not. And you just have 699 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 3: to go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or 700 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour. 701 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app, 702 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks so much, Jonathan. 703 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: Everyone have a great week.