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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders on the current state of

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Speaker 1: John Mchoda, the athletic Patrick walcome Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: looking frantically to see did Gerald Wayne Jones do anything

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday at the buzzer to secure the feature

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Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys who were six and two headings

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Speaker 1: to the bye week. You guys are still scrolling, So

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Speaker 1: that looks like a nona. If you want to jump in,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. It's a no. It's a no. UM. So

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are. We're at the trade deadline officially, UM,

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Speaker 1: and now was upstairs as far as any looming talks

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Speaker 1: or anything, so it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So the Cowboys make one trade this season. That's going

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Speaker 1: to be defensive tackle Jonathan Hankins. Last week made his

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Speaker 1: debut on Sunday for the Cowboys. Gave up a sixth

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Speaker 1: rounder to get Jonathan Hankins and yeah, that's where we

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Speaker 1: are Cowboys six and two going into the ball week.

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Speaker 1: One trade, nothing more. John has a smile. Oh, it'll

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Speaker 1: be sold in a totally different way. It'll be we're

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Speaker 1: getting James Washington back, Hyron Smith's coming back. Jalen Tolbert

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Speaker 1: is starting to scratch the surface. We played him last week.

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Speaker 1: Those are their trades, that's where they're getting those. Those

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Speaker 1: are those are rister editions. Knew he what does that

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Speaker 1: do for you? It's the same old four letters sentence.

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Speaker 1: We get. We like our guys, you like our guys. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Jarry said he had some things cooking. The team has

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Speaker 1: some things cooking. I'm confident they were having conversations with teams.

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Speaker 1: But he also said, and when he said this next statement,

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Speaker 1: this is what kind of led me to lean toward

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Speaker 1: not believing that anything will happen today. He said, you

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Speaker 1: have to be careful about being aggressive in these in

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Speaker 1: these instances. When he was talking to one or five

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Speaker 1: point three if from the fan earlier day, basically said,

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Speaker 1: in other GM's come to you with offers. So sounds

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Speaker 1: as if you know it was a situation where they

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Speaker 1: I had to speculate on that based off of what

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Speaker 1: Jerry said. So again, the end result is the end result.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins is the sole trade of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two NFL season for the Cowboys. Yeah. The only thing

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Speaker 1: they don't make this a little bit more interesting is

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Speaker 1: if you know, things get leaked out about what certain

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Speaker 1: players could be had for, it will happen, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: be good for fans. They probably won't like to see that,

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Speaker 1: particularly at the wide receiver position. I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like they needed to do more at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: you know, go with their guys and it might lead

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Speaker 1: to a great season. But if it doesn't, I think

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's not like because I hate to

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Speaker 1: just look across the league like it's today has been

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Speaker 1: when is it going to happen? Because this just looks

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Speaker 1: of the reason why Carolina moved on from Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: Let's run. Russell cannot overcome bad coaching. I can't tell

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Speaker 1: demon that continues to find its way into cutting off

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Speaker 1: just continues to spiral more and more each week, to

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Speaker 1: he goes off on the tam I listen. But the

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Speaker 1: optics of it are horrible. I'm fine with you holding

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Speaker 1: your guys accountable. That's not my problem with it. My

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Speaker 1: problem with it is from a leadership perspective, in the

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Speaker 1: same conversation that you're throwing these guys under the bus,

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Speaker 1: when you are now posed a question with what about you?

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Speaker 1: Even if you believe this in your head, which is

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Speaker 1: totally fine, because you're a competitor and you're a future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. That's fine, but you you have to

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Speaker 1: frame it a certain way and say, well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I have things I can work on as well, because

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Speaker 1: even though you're a future Hall of Famer, you've made mistakes.

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Speaker 1: But then he's right, Okay, don't give you started on

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Speaker 1: that one. But then he says, well, after throwing everyone

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Speaker 1: under the bus, he's asked about himself and he says, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming off of the highest graded game of the

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Speaker 1: season my coaches said, so the implication is it can't

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Speaker 1: possibly be me, like, none of this is my fault,

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Speaker 1: and then turns around and says, we're right where we

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Speaker 1: need to be because now nobody believes in us going

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Speaker 1: into Buffalo. Okay, well, now you're coming out of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: You got slapped around in Buffalo. I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. First off, I did pick Minnesota to win

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Speaker 1: the division. I had the package, make the play, miss

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Speaker 1: missing the plays, had a missing the plaoffs. But it

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Speaker 1: really you give this dude a good roster. He goes,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go out here ball win some games. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I mean, look, I thought I thought elite

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks were supposed to make toilet bowls in the Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to make everybody you got the toilet of.

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Speaker 1: And he's supposed to be the ballot ballot. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: even you know the man. You get what I'm get

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. I get what you're saying, man, But

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Speaker 1: but just I'll keep it all day long. He's the man.

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Speaker 1: I'm living him on the right now. I mean I've

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Speaker 1: watched this, I mean literally, you the Packers like it

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Speaker 1: lines up perfectly from when the Cowboys fell off from

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Speaker 1: winning their Super Bowls. From that time until now, the

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Speaker 1: Packers have been like arguably the best team in the

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Speaker 1: NFL every single and now. Of course it's crazy that

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Speaker 1: you bookend Brett five to Aaron Rodgers, but the receivers

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Speaker 1: they've given him are just And here's my point, because

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Speaker 1: I'm being facetious, and that's me throwing shade at those

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Speaker 1: who don't really understand the nature of the game. And

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Speaker 1: there's an event horizon that says, the better you are,

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Speaker 1: event horizon that says, if you're no matter how good

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Speaker 1: how good you are, you're going to be exactly where

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Speaker 1: the Packers are right now, which is spiraling down the

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Speaker 1: porcelain bolt. I mean that's the reality of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the general man answer, Brian Good continues, you should be

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Speaker 1: fired for it, for bad movies made. But put Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and started with the joy love stiff. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: been you. You give Aaron Rodgers what Ta's got. That

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Speaker 1: team might be you know, I mean that that, you know,

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Speaker 1: give him some real talent. Hell, give Amari Cooper like

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brosetta had last night. He could just these guys

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Speaker 1: are bad. I mean they're really bad. I mean as

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Speaker 1: bad as the Cowboys could use another receiver right now.

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Speaker 1: You were one nobody off that team. Nobody that's a

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Speaker 1: bad that's a bad group against who the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 1: is about to go against in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's just yeah, you know what frustrating. Get on after him.

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Speaker 1: So he's looking around, where's your block? I mean he

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Speaker 1: might pull we pull a Tom Brady's our cousin dudes

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Speaker 1: out on the side of Antonio Brown take the jersey off.

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Speaker 1: But I'll still I'll still I still need to see

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Speaker 1: it to believe it, because I still think like they're

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Speaker 1: just so much. There's just so much like evidence that yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're speaking from trauma. Wait and wait till you wait.

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Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens and watch him just have

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Speaker 1: the best game of his life in this game and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, they yeah I

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Speaker 1: just died or what I always say. Um, but the

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Speaker 1: play air Rods now it ends? Everyone dies? Yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: that movie. Everyone everyone dies at the end. Kevin Hitchermichael,

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Speaker 1: is that what's happening? Is that? What's it? Sounds like

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Speaker 1: your Mike's not on there? Got it? Go talk talk

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Speaker 1: talk man talking? No, no, hit another button, air buttons?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just hit buttons and keep talking. But no, no,

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Speaker 1: not okay, no talk loud enough and maybe we'll pick

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Speaker 1: it up. I think things. Uh I look I but

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Speaker 1: but back to McCarthy, going back here. You know this

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Speaker 1: means the world, especially his air Rods because Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: had no love for him on the way out. They

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Speaker 1: was not good, to say the least it was. It

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Speaker 1: was not good. And Rob Davis as well, I mean

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Speaker 1: and look, let's be honest, they were right. The reason

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Speaker 1: they were right because they won without him. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was funny today. Scott McCurley, the linebackers coach who was

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Speaker 1: with them, and he was one of the guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, worked with McCarthy in the barn when he

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Speaker 1: had his time off, and that he even said, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, when do you think it'll hit Mike? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, will be one of those things where he's

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Speaker 1: pulling up to the stadium, you know, the game being all,

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, when that plane lands because they're

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Speaker 1: flying into Green Bay that normally they fly into Appleton

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Speaker 1: their planning room. He's as soon as that plane lands,

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll hit him for sure. Like, but that's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Like Mike probably want to talk about it. But the

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Speaker 1: players obviously gonna know this is coach's first time going

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Speaker 1: back there. He's gonna he's got street named after him,

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Speaker 1: Like they're gonna know, Like even if it isn't something

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Speaker 1: that he says in front of them, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's Joe Witt, maybe it's you know, who knows they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be well aware of what's on the line in

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Speaker 1: this game and how important it is for Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: to go up there and win. It's too much um

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Speaker 1: Packer's blood running through the Cowboys coaching organization at the

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Speaker 1: moment between McCarthy and Philbin and yeah and Rob Davison,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fields were going to be there, um,

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Speaker 1: But for the players, the players don't care they play.

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Speaker 1: I mean you talk about somebody like Michael Mike is

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Speaker 1: just going up dude to eat faces. Right. Yes, But

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Speaker 1: at the same time as I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: a group of guys that really want to play for

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Speaker 1: each other, and now I could see guys, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: we want to come out here and get you. There's

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Speaker 1: no question I already got it already. If they win

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Speaker 1: this game, that video that they put up right after

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Speaker 1: is going to be like a Zach Martin or somebody

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Speaker 1: given Mike McCarthy the game ball. You know, it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things like that. Um, So yeah, it won't be.

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Speaker 1: They'll be whenever we're in the locker room next week,

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Speaker 1: they'll tamper it down and they won't say very much

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Speaker 1: about it, and they'll try and downplay it. There's no question,

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Speaker 1: like behind the scenes to a man, they want to

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Speaker 1: win this game problem. So here's the interesting thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: after the game and they win, because you know how,

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Speaker 1: you got to make the choice. Do you go to Jerry,

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Speaker 1: do you go to Mike's pressor you know, we us

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Speaker 1: just blow Jason all. It's gotta go to Mike. Mike,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go to Mike. If they pull this off,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go to Mike for a lot of reasons,

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Speaker 1: every reason that we just stated within there's the added reason. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, the fans are gonna want to hear Mike's

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Speaker 1: feelings after this because there's an addit leer from a

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Speaker 1: fan standpoint. Although the game logistically won't mean as much

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Speaker 1: as what happened in the twenty twenty four twenty four

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, twenty fourteen divisional round, but there's the oddity

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Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy going back into Green Bay wearing Cowboys

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Speaker 1: colors and defeating Aaron Rodgers, the guy who he had

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Speaker 1: let's just say beef beef with on the way out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all these stories, it's just fun. So you

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Speaker 1: gotta think Jerry's gonna take the game ball and give

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Speaker 1: it to. I mean, what you're going to do with

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Speaker 1: the game ball. I think we're in the building now, right,

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Speaker 1: are you right? Yeah, let's right, let's right. This boy

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Speaker 1: jump in, just say something real aggressive right now. Anything.

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Jones run for two hundred on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Usually you want someone who has Aaron Jones in fantasy,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want the Michael Jordan Michael. It was

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Speaker 1: always Michael. Michael came to my town. I watched the

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Speaker 1: That's what happened the first time you ever played the

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Speaker 1: dot Com. The Chicago Bears two hundred and forty yards

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Speaker 1: of rushing on forty three carries, even though they had

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Speaker 1: lost forty nine to twenty nine to the Cowboys at

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Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium as Dallas and proves of six

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Speaker 1: and two. I said before the game, I'm worried about

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Speaker 1: this run defense. So I'll start with you. Kevin Gray.

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Speaker 1: Am I crazy? Am I making too much of it?

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Speaker 1: Should just be happy with the w Tell me it's

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Speaker 1: weird because Chicago ran for over two hundred forty yards

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Speaker 1: in the game, just like they did on Monday night

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots. But it felt like the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: still in control of the game because the more you

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Speaker 1: ran the ball, the longer drives that they had. It

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily matter. They just kept the ball and just

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Speaker 1: kept running it, but they weren't necessarily scoring when it

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Speaker 1: mattered most In the end, Cowboys, I think got dominated.

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Speaker 1: The Bears had thirty six minutes of time in possession

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, but it didn't matter because they still lost

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Speaker 1: by twenty. I think it's different going against the Packers

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Speaker 1: because you've got a guy in Aaron Rodgers who will

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Speaker 1: exploit you and be able to capitalize. I feel like

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Speaker 1: online drives unlike Justin Fields did on Sunday. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the numbers and my eyes started to pop

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Speaker 1: because I'm watching Aaron Jones here apparently averaging six yards

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Speaker 1: per carry this year with five hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 1: yards on the ground. And while yeah, Aaron Rodgers hasn't

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Speaker 1: been Aaron Rodgers esque, this game concerns me because what

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Speaker 1: the Packers are able to still do well, which is

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Speaker 1: run the ball, you still can't do well in defending

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Speaker 1: the run. So I have concerns still, and I think

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Speaker 1: those concerns will still be there even with the addition

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Speaker 1: of Jonathan Hankins. I think two things can be true.

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Speaker 1: One you can enjoy the win, and two you can

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Speaker 1: enjoy the win while understanding you still have opportunities for improvement.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that the Cowboys still need to improve

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Speaker 1: their run defense, but I wouldn't use the Bears game

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Speaker 1: as a barometer or as a means of pointing to

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Speaker 1: that and saying, hey, look, the Bears ran up two

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Speaker 1: hundred forty two hundred forty one yards. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I personally don't care. Well, why don't you care? I

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Speaker 1: don't care for the same reason that Kevin just alluded to.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys basically, let them run the ball. We get

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Speaker 1: off to a fast started, the Cowboys do fourteen oh,

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Speaker 1: twenty one seven, etc. And the Bears, knowing that they

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Speaker 1: don't have any white receiver targets, knowing they don't have

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Speaker 1: a passing game, what do they do? They keep running

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Speaker 1: the ball. And if I'm Mike McCarthy and I'm Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, by all means, continue to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: because you're also running the clock down. You're not getting

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Speaker 1: any touchdowns off of these, and the scoreboard and the

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Speaker 1: clock is working against you. Have had it, you could

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Speaker 1: have run for three hundred yards if you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Not all rushing yards are created equal,

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Speaker 1: much like not all passing yards are created equal. That's

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Speaker 1: why you have yak as a category, and you have

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Speaker 1: air yards as a category. But these I could see

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Speaker 1: if it was a close game, if the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: ever truly lost control of the game, if it went

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Speaker 1: down to the wire and they had given up two

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Speaker 1: hundred forty yards, you could say, well, the reason they

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Speaker 1: went down to the wire, the reason they almost lost

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Speaker 1: this game, was because of that. But it's not. Those

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Speaker 1: yards were mostly of no consequence. Cowboys backed up and said,

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Speaker 1: we're going to sell out on the pass because we

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Speaker 1: know you can't pass, but we know you need to pass.

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Speaker 1: If you want to run the ball, run the ball,

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Speaker 1: have a three hundred yard day, you still want to

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Speaker 1: catch this ill John? Yeah, I still I still have

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Speaker 1: concerns about the run defense in terms of and again

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Speaker 1: I probably talk about this too much about the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: because that's what I care about. I've just covered too much.

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Speaker 1: A I don't care about the Ragulcity. I don't care

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Speaker 1: it really about the Bears game, because, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, the nothing that happened in that Bears game

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Speaker 1: will work against a really good team. It's great to

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Speaker 1: have the like to flip it over on the offensive side,

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Speaker 1: it's great to him a dacks back and he's and

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Speaker 1: he's thrown all over the yard, and they're going up

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Speaker 1: tempo and they're running the ball well and all that.

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Speaker 1: That's great. We even seen that after the offense starts

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Speaker 1: slumping last year and then all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: play good teams, and it's like, is that really gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, for example, that team didn't have anything

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Speaker 1: that scares you on defense, so you can go up

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Speaker 1: tempo because no one's gonna knock you off of your game.

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Speaker 1: You can stay ahead of the chains. So the Bears

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Speaker 1: game entirety, like, none of that really for me translates

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Speaker 1: over to when when I start thinking about the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And then to your point, the same thing with the

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Speaker 1: run defense, Like I just don't see really good teams

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Speaker 1: still running the ball if they're down late in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter like that. So it's hard to take anything

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Speaker 1: from that game and be like, oh, I can see

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Speaker 1: how this will be against you know, I guess like

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia or Minnesota or some of these playoff teams. So

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Speaker 1: I do still have concerns about the run defense, adding Hankins.

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Speaker 1: I think was a big move in the right direction,

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Speaker 1: and as long as they can stay healthy on that

741
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Speaker 1: side of the ball, I think they're trending in the

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Speaker 1: right direction where they'll be better on the run defense.

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Speaker 1: But they're not going to be a team that just

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Speaker 1: shuts down teams on the run. And I go back

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Speaker 1: to what you talked about, and I come back into this.

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Speaker 1: You know, two hundred and forty yards concerns me because

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Speaker 1: this is not going to cut in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: don't expect a team to run for the two hundred

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Speaker 1: forty yards on it, but just at some point in time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to when you when you face Minnesota

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Speaker 1: this year, when you face Tennessee this year, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go down the stretch and face some tim teams that

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Speaker 1: can run the ball. I'd like to see this thing improve.

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Speaker 1: I go back to Tony Dungee's Super Bowl team. I

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Speaker 1: think they were dead last in rushing. UM got it

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Speaker 1: together at the end, went on a role and won

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So you do not have to have

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Speaker 1: UM twenty two perfect players out there. You know, every

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Speaker 1: sun we saw you gonna have to cover awards. Lord

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Speaker 1: knows the Rams offensive line I thought last year was shaky.

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Speaker 1: They just went to the Super Bowl to face a

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Speaker 1: team they had a worst offensive shakier line to now yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it ended up being they're undoing. So you want

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Speaker 1: to mask some warts and get yourself far in the plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up with those with those

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Speaker 1: other teams because you think about who again me going

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Speaker 1: back to the playoffs here you possibly get you think

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Speaker 1: you think that the Vikings are going to beat the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in the playoffs because Kirk Cousins is thrown the

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Speaker 1: ball over the yard. There's no way that's happening. Not

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Speaker 1: with this past defense. Philadelphia, they're gonna want to run

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Speaker 1: the football against the Cowboys. Uh, the Giants are gonna

773
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Speaker 1: want to run the football. They're gonna be expecting Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones to win games against them. San Francisco, Atlanta, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna want Those teams are gonna want to run the

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Speaker 1: ball against the Cowboys. So you're gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: something to stop the run. Their quarterbacks are not going

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Speaker 1: to beat this past defense. They're just not. And I

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Speaker 1: think more so for me, it's not necessarily just the

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Speaker 1: rushing yards and cells and what we've seen. It's about

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Speaker 1: the disposition and what teams feel like they could do

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Speaker 1: against you. San Francisco walked in this building and knew

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Speaker 1: that they could run the football and out physical you

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Speaker 1: and punish you, and they did sell repeatedly. That's what

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Speaker 1: I get concerned with as we get deeper than the seasons,

786
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Speaker 1: that teams like San Francisco Minnesota who have a disposition

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Speaker 1: that they want to play physical football, that they feel

788
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Speaker 1: like they can go wherever it is in your own

789
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Speaker 1: building or at their own building and punk you out

790
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: and win football games by just simply running the football

791
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Speaker 1: and not even giving Dak Prescott in this offense a

792
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Speaker 1: chance to be able to be on the field as

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Speaker 1: much as they want. If that's what concerns me is

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Speaker 1: what the attitude may say about their inability to stop

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Speaker 1: the run. In my mind, well, these are some of

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Speaker 1: the great questions as we look at the almost halfway

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Speaker 1: point for the Cowboys. They got a lot of positives.

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Speaker 1: That's the only real thing I point to and say, boy,

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Speaker 1: that's a concern for me. And considering all the injuries

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Speaker 1: they've been through, I go once again back to these coaches,

801
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Speaker 1: the job they've done. You alluded to Wells with the

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Speaker 1: tight ends, Joe Philbin with the running backs, what I'll

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Speaker 1: hairs Joe would have been able to do with the

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield, to so many different things that have been

805
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: been moving moving parts for this team. UM. For for

806
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: George Edwards and Dan Quinn continuing to figure out how

807
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Speaker 1: to unleash Michael Parsons to play his best football. Laton

808
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Speaker 1: Vanderesh just having a nice season. I wondered what they

809
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Speaker 1: would get out of him. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: positives for a team that after the first week of

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Speaker 1: the season. I'm telling you right now, I'm like, this

812
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Speaker 1: is this is not gonna be a fun year. It's

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Speaker 1: funny because weaking news as well. By the way, bar

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have now waived Tristan Hill. Likely tried to

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Speaker 1: trade him but I didn't happen at the deadline. That

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Speaker 1: that has now been confirmed. A report just sent AU

817
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Speaker 1: sent some sent a text upstairs to see if we

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Speaker 1: can get that confirmed. It has been confirmed. So Tristin

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Speaker 1: Hillston Hill has been waived by the Cowboys. UM, and

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll be interesting because he should be uh. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistake, He's not vested, so he's going to

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Speaker 1: be subject to waivers if I'm not. If I'm correct,

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Speaker 1: so there will be a chance for a team to

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Speaker 1: claim him. I know that that changes after the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: So now that we're after the trade deadline, everyone subject

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Speaker 1: to waivers now technically. So yeah, and it also answers

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions that anybody would have had about

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Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore. You know that, because that was the thing

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. It was, you know, Mike McCarthy said,

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Speaker 1: coach's decision, Neville Gallimore or Triston Hill, and they went

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Speaker 1: with Tristan Hill. And then this week against the Bears,

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Speaker 1: Triston Hill was inactive, Neville Gallimore was up played a lot.

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Speaker 1: So it's pretty clear that Neville Gallimore was was not

834
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Speaker 1: going to be going anywhere. But also because you know,

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Speaker 1: when that Hankins deal happened, there are some people that

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Speaker 1: probably thought, oh, you know, this looks like and it

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Speaker 1: was the different players, And it was never Hankins versus

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Speaker 1: Gallimore because, like you said, different roles, different players, different homework.

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Speaker 1: A Simmons so and Gallimore, once he was completely healthy,

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Speaker 1: he had the risk issue, the risk issue that kind

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Speaker 1: of cropped up right ahead of the Lions game. Um,

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Speaker 1: they ended up giving Tristan Hill the not with Gallimore

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Speaker 1: was active against the Bears. And I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how this works, but I think this also might have

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Speaker 1: some impact on Basham because Basham was a guy they

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Speaker 1: were gonna it was gonna be tough to the on

847
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Numbers they were getting pretty tight there,

848
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: and so with Basham, I would think that with this move,

849
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: then he's probably good to go for because he's coming

850
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: back from from the ir vocal Baschmall a couple of

851
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: days ago, and he said at the exact phrase, he said,

852
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm good, yeah, Solid, I'm good to go. And they've

853
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: already activated his twenty one day wine, so you have

854
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: that that's going to be. It goes out to numbers,

855
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: there is one on the defensive line, but just as

856
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: a roster as a whole, I fully expect that James

857
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Washington after the buy, if not as early as next week,

858
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: he might see his twenty one day window activated, so

859
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: that he might be available, maybe as early as good

860
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: this is just good, maybe as early as Vikings. I'd

861
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: be surprised if he was on the field for Green

862
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Bay but what do we A lot of a lot

863
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: does that play here in Tristan Hill. He's the odd

864
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: man out. Now what are we hearing from the assistant coaches?

865
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: They made them available today quite a bit. Actually thought

866
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I know you and I were both here at the

867
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: same time. I thought Skip Peat was all Skip was

868
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Skipp is That is the hymn when it comes to

869
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: speaking about or getting you know, entry kit detailed information

870
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: about the thought processes on what's going on in his

871
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: particular position unit. And obviously you know he's not around

872
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: a long time too, so he has a great example

873
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: and he's not oblivious to what's going on. Yeah, he

874
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: had a ton of raiders example, he talked Marcus Allen

875
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: and you know Van Egan and things like that. And

876
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: basically what he said was I love how he positioned it.

877
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: As for those that are wondering or saying what Tony

878
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: Polar should be RB one, he should get the bulk

879
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: of the snaps. Skip was very blunt and saying Tony

880
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: ran out of gas on Sunday against the Lions. He

881
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: said after he did that, the fifty four yard touchdown run,

882
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: he came over to Skip and said, I'm done I'm done.

883
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm that's it for me for the day. And he

884
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: equated Tony Pollard to a race car. In that race

885
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: car is going to be fast, it's going to give

886
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: you what you need, but it's going to run out

887
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: a few much quicker than an expensive luxury sedan that

888
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: can keep going and keep going and keep going. In

889
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: the ladders. What he equated to Ezekiel Elliot being and

890
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: he's saying, he said, you need both. He said, I'm

891
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: accustomed to having both. He said. Al Davis taught him

892
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: this in his time with the Raiders when they were

893
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: out in Oakland. He had both, like two or three

894
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: different running back tanams. His first stint with the with

895
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett Era.

896
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: He talked about Felix Jones and Mary and Barbara and

897
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: Julius Jones and Mary and Barbara and then Felix and DeMarco, etcetera.

898
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: So he said, this is what needs to happen. And

899
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: I love how he put it schematically because he said

900
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: defenders have come up to him and said, hey, the

901
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: way you guys are playing makes it very difficult for us.

902
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: From a muscle memory, standpoint because here you have Zeke

903
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: as the primary and Tony's faster, So you have Zeke

904
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: as the bruiser. When Zeke hit beats the A or

905
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: B gap, he gets to the second level two or

906
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: three times in the row. Now, as a defender, you

907
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: have a certain lane, a certain angle that you're taking

908
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: to stop Zeke. That's what now you're getting used to.

909
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, here comes Tony runs the

910
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: exact same play. But by the time Tony gets to

911
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: that spot the line that you took thinking it was Zeke,

912
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: subconsciously he's going and now you're chasing Tony, right, So

913
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: that is the dynamic that the cowboys are working for.

914
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: And I just liked it that he verbalized basically what

915
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people are probably thinking. You're You're just

916
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is not going to get twenty snaps and

917
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: your twenty it carries I should even if even if

918
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: he was if not a little straight right, But but

919
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: it's the Okay, could he go back out there and

920
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: get three or four more yards on a carry, Yeah,

921
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: of course he could. But it's do you want those

922
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: forty yards? Do you want those fifty yards? You want

923
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: to keep him fresh to get that. Um. The other

924
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: one that stood up to me another great quote. I like,

925
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: I wish we could talk to the assistant coaches more. Um,

926
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: we got to talk to him today because it's the

927
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: bye week, and then on the other time we get

928
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: to talk to him is in one day in training camp.

929
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: It's like about a thirty minute thing. They kind of

930
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: bring them all out and then you kind of get

931
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: who you can get and and try and make the

932
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: most of it. But I love talking to Joe Witt.

933
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: Awesome great quotes as as again a lot of experienced

934
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of different things do Anyway, he was telling

935
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I asked him about Micah and I was like, so,

936
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, how does he stand out to you? How

937
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: do you pair him? And things like that. And he's

938
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: good friends with Ryan Clark and Charles Woodson. He said

939
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: that he's told them that he really believes Mica could

940
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: be a starting safety, linebacker, defensive lineman and be as

941
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: good as anybody in the league at any of those positions.

942
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: And even he said that Charles Woodson and Ryan Clark

943
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: both were like, con Joe, let's be serious, right, He's like, no,

944
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes. I think he could even play

945
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: any position on offense outside of quarterback. Like, and he goes,

946
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't normally say about guys, but he's like, really,

947
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: that's where Michael Parsons is at, just talking about you know,

948
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: whether you're talking McCurley or you're talking to George Edwards

949
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: or Joe Witt, all these defensive coaches there. They do

950
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: not think that we've seen the best of Mike Michael Parsons.

951
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: You know that there's still plenty that he can't for

952
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: you to do. And there's just a variety of things

953
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: that they continue to do with him. And I don't know,

954
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: so almost a year and a half, almost a year

955
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: and a half into this, give me a comp player

956
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: you've seen play a comp from Michael Parsons that is

957
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: not Lawrence Taylor, Kevin Start. Oh boy, I got a guy,

958
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: I guess in most recent time because he's been in

959
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: the league for a while. I'll just give it to him.

960
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: I was like, t J Watt Patrick, m m mmm,

961
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: I like that. As far as archetypes, yeah, um, jesz,

962
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: that's a real one. I think I know what you're

963
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: getting at here. Obviously, when they answer and asking this question,

964
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: the one that I've just heard the most is CLAYT Matthews,

965
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: just because it's McCarthy talking about how he used CLAYT.

966
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: Matthews when they won the Super Bowl. But obviously, yeah,

967
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: he's not at Yeah, matth is not nearly as athletic

968
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: as Parsons here and taking Lord say equation, I think

969
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 1: of Michael Parson. I just think it'd be pure weapon

970
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: and just where's this guy on the field, his junior sale. Yeah,

971
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: And I just think it's just you know, the ability

972
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: about Derek Brooks. I mean, I'm sorry, not Derek Brooks,

973
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: but Derek Thomas. Derek Thomas as well. But you know,

974
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: just that that that ability to you know, I mean, boy,

975
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: I go back to Derek Thomas, ab how great he

976
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: was at Alabama. I just remember one man wrecking Crew

977
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: just show. But you know, just with Junior. And also

978
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: the other thing was Junior's enthusiasm and just the way

979
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: he you know, that whole that whole town, everyone away.

980
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: Junior was just that kind of guy. Mike has that

981
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: kind of guy. I mean, you've got Criswell, you got

982
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: the is all so much witness. Yeah, I mean they

983
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: are very fortunate to have had that young man, and

984
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: he's not one hundred percent. Yeah, no, it's not one

985
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: hundred percent at all. But it made the two biggest

986
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: players and in the last few games which chasoned out

987
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: and the chase down from behind against right the tight

988
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: end from the Lions and then him. As much as

989
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: we talked about the running game wasn't really doing much

990
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: from the from the bear's perspective. Who knows how much

991
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: different that game is in the fourth quarter if he

992
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: doesn't pick up that fumble and not only recover it

993
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: but then return it for a touchdown. I mean that, Yeah,

994
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: just that just sealed that game. The game was over

995
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: after that happens, Like Michael Jordan, I'm not losing. I'm

996
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: not losing. I'm going to figure out a way to

997
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: do it. Patrick Walker, Kevin Gray, John Ma showed to

998
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: thank you guys. We appreciate you coming on here for

999
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: the media. Matsh I knew, we scrugs. We'll talk to

1000
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,600
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