1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: It's worked extremely hard on being a better person, better man, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: a better teammates and. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Shawn as a leader of the football team, I think 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: it's important for everybody to know where he is, what's 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: on his mind. 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: Personally, I'm in a different space, comfortable being around the 7 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: guys the locker room, the coach of South. 8 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 4: The organization is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. Your chance 9 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 4: to get an in depth preview of the week ahead 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 4: in Maria. You're listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: Radio Network. Here are your hosts, Kim Carmen named Gerard. 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 5: And we welcome you to week four of the twenty 13 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 5: twenty three preseason and the final dress rehearsal for your 14 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns. As Saturday afternoon, they hit the road Arrowhead 15 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 5: Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri for all one pm kickoff 16 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 5: against the Kansas City Chiefs. Good evening friends, Ken Carman 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 5: alongside of Gerrod Cherry. It is the Cleveland Browns Preview 18 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 5: Show all along the University Hospital's Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 19 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 5: Girard Evening Friend, Hello Kenneth, It's wonderful to speak to 20 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 5: and it's wonderful to get going with four downs, first down. 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 5: All right, Brown's eighteen Eagles eighteen. The good and the 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 5: not so good from Thursday nights tie with the Eagles, Gerrod, 23 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: what do you got alright? 24 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Really? The good was, once again you saw guys who've 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: been performing well in preseason and in training camp doing 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: just that in which they took what they did on 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: the practice field and from the previous week onto linked 28 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: financial on Thursday night. So I'm very impressed with Dtry, 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: very impressed with Jones. I'm very impressed with Watkins and 30 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: guys on the offensive side of the ball. Then you 31 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: can throw in there too, Diabata and what he represents 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: as well as Hickman and Martin. So very impressed with 33 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: these young guys, and that you have a situation, Ken 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: where if your twos and threes in your fours are 35 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: getting it and understanding how to play football and playing 36 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: it at a higher level, just imagine what your ones 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: and your twos will do once they hit the football field. 38 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Now far as the not so good as concern, Yeah, 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: you want to show up some things in a kicking 40 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: game because you don't want you want consistency in everything 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: that you do on a football field. You want all 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: three phases to, as we like to say, compliment each other. 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: And you don't want to have something that can be 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: perceived as a weakness, especially in games that are gonna 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: be really tight. So you need that consistency to take 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: place in the kicking game. And once you get that, 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: you have yourself a very formidable football team. 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 5: Let's get the second down in a very difficult question, 49 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 5: second down, if you were to give out an outstanding 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: offensive rookie of camp, who would you give the award 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: right now? Dorian Thompson Robinson or Dewan Jones. 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give it to dtr And simply 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: because he's doing more now, Dwan has played more snaps 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: because he's played literally an entire game. But based upon 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: Dorian playing a quarterback position, I made this argument last 56 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: week and I'll make it again, and I'll claim it 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: right now, he's ahead of all the other rookie quarterbacks 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Now, the pressure that he's under, 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: the circumstances that he's under is vastly different than theirs. 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: But if you watch his play, tell me a rookie quarterback, 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: be it Young, be it Stroud, or Richison, who's playing 62 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: bear the DTR right now, I can't tell you one. 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 6: I wanted to go with Dwan Jones. 64 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: And the reason I wanted to go with Dwan Jones 65 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: is because of the comfort level that I'm starting to 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: get with him. I listened to Brian Boldinger in the 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: afternoon on ninety two three the Fan earlier today, and 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: he made me feel a little bit better. I'm still 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: nervous because he's such a mountain of a man, and 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: I knew he came in with a couple of raw 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: techniques and it's a different for an animal. But you know, 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 5: with Jack Conklin's injury history, Dwan Jones might be asked 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: to do a little bit more than what we thought 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: he was going to be able to do so, or 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: thought that he was going to be asked to do. 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: So. 77 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 5: He has to put himself in a position where it's 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: gonna make us feel a lot more comfortable with Dwan 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: Jones there, and I think that he's done that throughout 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: this training camp. I know that he was taken for 81 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 5: a ride I think once the other day against Philadelphia. 82 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: That's still one of the better defenses that you find 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 5: in the NFL. This is an interesting piece. 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Now. 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: I'm very impressed with Dorian Thompson Robinson. Don't get me wrong. 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 5: He's played exceedingly well. He's got a grip of that offense. 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 5: He's been an exciting player. But still I'm in the 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: mode of if something bad were to happen to Deshaun 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: Watson Girod, I would still go with Josh Dobbs number two, 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 5: simply because you have a veteran in there now. Once 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: you're able to get your bearings that Sunday night, if 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 5: you had to go into the next week without Deshaun Watson, 93 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 5: we could have that conversation of who's ready to go 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 5: and who can best help us win a football game. 95 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 5: But in that moment, I think I need a veteran 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 5: who's ready right then and there. From Thompson Robinson has 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 5: played very well, you know, I need some experience. I'm 98 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 5: a big experience guy, so I'd be a little bit 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: worried about both. But it seems that Dewan Jones may 100 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: be called upon sooner than we think with this offensive line. 101 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 5: So I've been very impressed with what Dewan Jones has 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: done so far. I thought that he was going to 103 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: be a pretty big project. They talk about him and 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 5: some of the problems that some of the scouts had 105 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 5: with him coming out of Ohio State, and he seems 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 5: to have fixed all that, or at least they were 107 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: looking in the wrong places when it came to Dewan Jones, 108 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: because he has been very impressive throughout this training camp. 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: Drod Well, he certainly has been and I'm not gonna 110 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: definitely undersell what he's accomplished either. And the one thing 111 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: that you really find impressive is that he went against 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of first rounders on Thursday night and guess 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: what he did. He held it down. 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, he did extremely well. 115 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: So you give him props for that and what that 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: represents because again, he wasn't drafted a high but it 117 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: wasn't the issue, I believe of talent and ability that 118 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: was a question. It was more so are you gonna 119 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: be professional? Are you gonna do the right things to 120 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: get yourself into place to where we one think you 121 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: can survive and stay in the National Football League? And 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: so far he's on track all right. 123 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: Defensively, who would you want to go with Mo Diabaate, 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: Ronnie Hickman or Jeremiah Martin. I know you're a big 125 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 5: fan of Jeremiah Martin. 126 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: I would, based upon what he's done lately, I have 127 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: to give it to Mamu Diabat when you force a 128 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: safety and force a fumble and you've had a previous 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: week where you were in plays and making plays. Now, 130 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Martin's mate had a sack tackle 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: for loss, but there been like half sacks and he's 132 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: made his presence felt. But just they remember what you 133 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: did last and last time on the football field. Diabate, 134 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: in my mind, did the most. Now you're saying, how 135 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: do you leave out Ronnie Hickman because he's got three 136 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: I in t's. Yes, he certainly has three its and 137 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: that has been extremely impressive. But the one thing I 138 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: would tell Ronnie that he has to add to his 139 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: arsenal and if he does this, he's a shoein to 140 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: make this roster is you have to tackle better than 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: open field. 142 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 5: Well, I really like my ma mood Diabat. He's come 143 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 5: on so strong here because for a second after the 144 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 5: first preseason game, I'm like, man, where's the guy that 145 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: came from Utah there? And boy, he's he's really showed 146 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 5: up and played well. Ronnie Hickman. I think you'd give 147 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 5: him a benefit of a doubt because he's an Ohio guy. 148 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: But I really like ma mood Diabat. I think I'm 149 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 5: gonna pick him for my defensive offensive or defensive Outstanding 150 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year. Let's get to guys we didn't 151 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: even bring up here. Cedric Tillman, Cam Mitchell, Siaki Ika, 152 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: Charlie Thomas. They've all performed well. I've been so heartened 153 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: Gerrod by Cedric Tillman, not just in the preseason games, 154 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 5: but in camp as well. 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 6: He's been great. 156 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's made plays in the games too. And what 157 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I like the fact is that he's shown that he 158 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: could be a potential deep threat. He could show that 159 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: he could be the guy that can get that crucial 160 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: catch in third down convergence to keep the chains and 161 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the sticks moving. He's done those things and just shown 162 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: the ability to draw a pilnies as well, because guys 163 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: are having a hard time covering him, so that's been 164 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: a bonus. And then you can think about Ika. He's 165 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: not been pushed around, He's not four or five yards 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: down the football field. And then the young cornerback in 167 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Cameron Mitchell He's made some plays as well, and Charlie 168 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Thomas is fair to say has had the best tackle 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: or hit this preseason. And as a matter of fact, 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: it's been so good they're calling any times somebody knocked 171 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: the snot out of somebody a Charlie, So that tells 172 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: you right there he's had some impact. 173 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 6: I think you're right about that. 174 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 5: Time for third down, third down, Final week of training camp, 175 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: final preseason game on Saturday in Cairns City. Treating this 176 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 5: game like a game week Tuesday is a Wednesday, Wednesday 177 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: is a Thursday, et cetera, et cetera. Twenty to twenty 178 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: five plays for each starter, the starters that would play 179 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: per coach. Is there anybody you would hold out? 180 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple guys I would hold out 181 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: a course holding people out. It's Nick Chubb right now, 182 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: we have an uncertain I love what I'm seeing how 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Demitric Felton and then Ford is hurt. And I don't 184 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: think you want to go into the season with potential 185 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: of Nick Chubb, who's shown that, hey he doesn't have 186 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: to do much in preseason and still show up Week one. 187 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't take a chance with him because of 188 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: simple fact that we are potentially low in numbers or 189 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: experienced more so than anything in the running back room. 190 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: So that was the one I would be more hesitant 191 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: to put in the football in the football game this Saturday. Yes, 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: and I know that is definitely a departure from old 193 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: school thought, but it just makes sense. 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: I would keep out as of right now. I would 195 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: keep out Jack Conklin. I would start Dwan Jones, see 196 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: what he has. Do you want to start Elijah Moore? 197 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 5: I know he's coming back from that rib injury. Do 198 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 5: you want to see Elijah. 199 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: More a week snaps? Yeah, I let him. I'd let 200 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: him run around. I mean I wouldn't. I wouldn't do 201 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: things that are necessary. I mean, anytime you're out there, 202 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna get a hit. But there's one thing 203 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: about handing him a jet sweep as opposed to throwing 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: an out route. Right. 205 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 5: What about what about Amari Cooper coming back from the 206 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: core injury. 207 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: I would put him out there too, just to get 208 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: some rhythm with de Sean. Wouldn't hurt to get game 209 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: reps together. 210 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: I would see I'm different from you, Like I I 211 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: never played the game at a high level, So it's like, well, 212 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: all right, Like they gotta be out there, they got 213 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 5: to get their work in. So I get a little 214 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 5: bit more nervous than guys like you, because I mean, 215 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: you played at the highest level. Like if it were me, 216 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: i'd hold out Amari Jack Conklin, Elijah Moore, Miles, I 217 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: would probably hold out Denzel Ward Zadarias Smith maybe. I 218 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: mean that would be a discussion. And that's those are 219 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 5: the ones I'd hold on. Everybody else can play. Everybody 220 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 5: else can play. And I'm sure you disagree with that. 221 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: Tell me why no, Not necessarily because I understand why 222 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: you hold them out, because here's the deal. When you 223 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: take two weeks before you play again, it takes sometimes 224 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: a week chin especially early on part of this of 225 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: the season in which you're not in football shape. None 226 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: of these guys are going to be a football shape 227 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: for starters. Now. If they found themselves doing what Dwan 228 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Jones did and played all preseason games, all snaps, guess 229 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: what with this heat, they would be in shape without 230 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: being shadow of doubt, they'd be in football shape. But 231 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: because they are not there, and a two week layover 232 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: is not going to help the cause as far as 233 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: you actually being acclimated and ready to play football for 234 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: four full quarters. So it is going to be a 235 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: gut check and a half for four full quarters. So 236 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: not only are they gonna have to battle against their opponents, 237 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: but the mental wear and tear of toughing it out 238 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: under these conditions, because simply put preseason games on get 239 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: you in training camp, don't get you prepared anymore. You 240 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: really spent the first four or five weeks of the 241 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: season actually having a real training camp, in my opinion. 242 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: So with that being said, I get why they're doing 243 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing, and ultimately we just gonna have to 244 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: see who's a tougher football team and more prepared. 245 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: Supposed to be ninety three I think kickoff on Saturday 246 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: in Kansas City. I remember that preseason game against the 247 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 5: Giants a couple of years ago at home, and oh, 248 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 5: my goodness, gracious, the heat, the heat that was on 249 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 5: that field, and everybody was kind of like, man, let's uh, 250 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 5: we can get our work here. Well, let's get this 251 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 5: working quickly. It's it's very hot out here, and I 252 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 5: think it's probably gonna be the same way in a 253 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 5: lot of ways with Kansas City, even with the ones going. 254 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, get your work and then getting the 255 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 5: cool fans and let's let's try to chill out here, 256 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: because this. 257 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: Is it's gonna be a fight for those bad boys. 258 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: That's the funny part. When his cold is a fight 259 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: for the heaters. It was hot like that. It's a 260 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: fight for the cool fans. 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: It's time for fourth down, fourth down, all right. ESPN's 262 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 5: field yates. Within the past hour, the Browns have restructured 263 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: the contract of Miles Garrett, creating twelve point eight six 264 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: eight million dollars in twenty twenty three. The Browns would 265 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 5: now have close to thirty four million dollars in cap space, 266 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 5: which says, easily the most in the NFL, the most 267 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 5: in the NFL, Easily the most in the NFL. 268 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: Your thoughts well, first and foremost, I thought transactions were 269 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: over with and that there'd be no potential for any 270 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: other moves to be made. 271 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 6: But I said the same things. 272 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: We see something like that, the first thing you will 273 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: assume is where they positioned themselve I I would I 274 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: cannot imagine being tailored, so ah, I, but something's gonna 275 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: go down. You don't just do that for kicks. And giggles. 276 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: So something's up with that. So you have to pay 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: attention to these things or is it really preparing ahead 278 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: of time? Which is impressive too, but I get it. 279 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: You never known, of course the football season, what type 280 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: of moves you're gonna need to make. But we have 281 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: that much though far as cap space is concerned. That 282 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: is impressive that they're gonna pull that off. And on 283 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: top of that, for Miles to be willing to work 284 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: with the team in order to create that position. 285 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: It's making me think about a person who's already here. 286 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 5: But I'm not allowed to speculate on those matters. I 287 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 5: can't do it till six in the morning. You can't 288 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: do it till three tomorrow afternoon. But I I it 289 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: makes me think about someone here. That's all that means. 290 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 5: Doesn't mean anything, It doesn't mean anything. Total speculation, but 291 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 5: man restructuring. At this point, it just Andrew Berry is 292 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 5: always gonna keep a guessing, Drid. 293 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 6: I love it. 294 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: He's always gonna keep his guessing and that is down. 295 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 5: So much more to come on this show, but first 296 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 5: remember back by popular demand, it's year two of Barking Backers, 297 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: presented by Milkbone. The fan Club for Dogs, view membership 298 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 5: options and join today at Barkingbackers dot Com. Later on 299 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 5: the Voice of Your Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan will join 300 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: Jerad and I will precap their Eagles game and look 301 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: ahead to Kansas City on Saturday. We'll go around the 302 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: league division previews with the AFC and NFC West. We'll 303 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 5: also talk about that Colts possible deal where Jonathan Taylor 304 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: has been given permission to seek a trade up. Next 305 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: though Brown Center Ethan Posk with our good buddy Jason Gibbs. 306 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: It is Monday night, but we're getting ready for Saturday 307 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 5: game day. It's the Cleveland Browns Preview Show on the 308 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 309 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 7: Win loser draw. If you don't play the standard, there's 310 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 7: corrections to be made, and there's things to be done 311 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 7: that are gonna benefit the team, and we're all trying 312 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 7: to work to those goals. 313 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. You're listening to 314 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Here are your Oh, 315 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: this is Kim Carmon and Gerrod Cherry. 316 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: Browns fans, the Browns need your help picking the field 317 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: design for the twenty twenty three season. 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Ken Carmon, 322 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: alongside of Gerrod Cherry and our good buddy Jason Gibbs, 323 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: got a chance to talk to Brown center Ethan Postik 324 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: in the players spotlight here on. 325 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: The preshow, joined by starting center Ethan Possick and Ethan 326 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: It's been quite a month, man, It has been a 327 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: month since we left for the Greenbrier and I guess 328 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Greenbrier for ten days? 329 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 6: Fill you for five days? 330 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Three preseason games down and one to go here. 331 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun and a lot 332 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: of competition, you know, that's why we play the game, 333 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: and uh so just working and competing with myself, competing 334 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: with the defense. 335 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: So it's just been good. 336 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: What's been the best part of getting away with these guys, 337 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: especially to the Greenbrier. You know, coach that it's it's 338 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: a team bonding as much as it is anything else. 339 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: What's been the best part of that. 340 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that just hanging around the guys and. 341 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: You know, just. 342 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: Everything that goes on in the locker room and downtime, 343 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: and you know, just hanging. 344 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: Out talking with Ethan Posak here center for your Cleveland 345 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: Browns here on the Cleveland Browns preview show, getting ready 346 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: for Browns and Chiefs on Saturday. And I know coaches 347 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: said the starters are gonna play for a little bit, 348 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: or you're excited to play for a little bit, even 349 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: though it might be the hottest game that you're gonna 350 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: play all season long. 351 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. And they're a great team, 352 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: so it's gonna be a lot of fun. 353 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: All right. 354 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: What exactly have you been working on here in training 355 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: camp and trying to get better. 356 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: At Yeah, I would just say competing with myself to 357 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: work on my technique and fundamentals, knowledge of the game, 358 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: knowledge of defenses, and you know, just trying to have 359 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: fun with it and you know, just just have fun. 360 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: What has been the one thing that you've been able 361 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: to take away from Bill Callahan and Scott Peters and 362 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: what they've meant to you since you've come. 363 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: Here, Just the technique and fundamentals and how they see 364 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: the game, and you know, over time, just seeing the 365 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: game more like they see the game. And that's with technique, 366 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: that's with our plays, that's with our plays versus certain defenses. 367 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: So the more the more time I spend with them, 368 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: the less questions I have in a good way because 369 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: I'm already seeing it now how they see it or 370 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: starting to. And so I would say just like continuing 371 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: to just work with them again on the same page, 372 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: and then just really really hammering those techniques, hammering those fundamentals. 373 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: And you know, I believe O line is such a 374 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 3: developmental position. You know, you need thousands and thousands of 375 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: reps every day, and those D linemen are doing the 376 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: same thing. So it's a race within yourself to compete 377 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: with yourself to get better. 378 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: All right, you talk about competing and getting those reps. 379 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: You got some great work in with Philadelphia. What was 380 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: it like to go up against that defensive line last week? 381 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got a great D line, great defense. They're 382 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: a great team. 383 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: So it was really good talking with Ethan Posty here 384 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: starting center for your Cleveland Browns, Browns and Chiefs on 385 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: Saturday from Arrowhead Stadium starting at one o'clock. When you 386 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: get the the rare day off in a crazy, crazy month, 387 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: what do you like to do? 388 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: Just hang out with the wife and kids and just 389 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: hang out, you know, maybe get outside a little bit, 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: but for the most part, just family time. 391 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: And how old are the kids? 392 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Three? Two? 393 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: In less than a year? You didn't waste any time. 394 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: What's it like to have a household full like that? 395 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: And how good are you a changing diapers? On a 396 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: scale of one to ten? 397 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the household is chaos, a little pandemonium, but it's good. 398 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: It's good chaos, good pandemonium. 399 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: You know. 400 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: I say that, You know, I'm not really there too 401 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: much because I'm in camp right now. So my wife 402 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: she's doing everything and she's a champ, so I couldn't. 403 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: Do it without her obviously. 404 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 3: And the diaper changing, yeah, I'm ready to retire from 405 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: that one in a few years, two years or whatever. 406 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: So it's all right though. All right, final question here 407 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: and I'll get you out on this. What are you 408 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: guys working on this week as you get ready for 409 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: Kansas City? This is the so called dress rehearsal game. 410 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: And you mentioned technique, but just from a group standpoint, 411 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: what's Coach Callahan's message been to you guys. 412 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think every individual has certain things that they're 413 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: working on and certain things that are different for each person. 414 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: But you know, as a group, just getting ready to 415 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: play a game and everything that comes with that physically, mentally, treatment, everything, 416 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: So just a toll, total package. I hate to give 417 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: you a broad answer, but everything. 418 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing at all. There's a lot 419 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: to work on still, as coach said last week, and 420 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: you guys to have a few more weeks here before 421 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: we hit the field on September tenth. Again, Cincinnati, wishing 422 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: you all the best, enjoy a little downtime, especially as 423 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: we get into that Labor Day weekend with the family 424 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: and best wishes this year. 425 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: Yes, so thank you for having. 426 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: Me Ethan Postic in the player spotlight speaking about the 427 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 5: home and the words of the late great nep Chandler. 428 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: His home is Pandemodium Palace, outstanding to hear from the 429 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: Brown Center. Folks fans, we're telling you that Avocados from 430 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 5: Peru will be at seven hills Meyer location from one 431 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 5: to three pm this Friday, August twenty fifth. 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Coming up next, Gerard 437 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 5: and I we take you around the league and we 438 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: preview the wild West of the AFC and the NFC. 439 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: It's coming up next on the Cleveland Browns Preview Show 440 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 441 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show on the University 442 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio network. Here are your hosts, Ken 443 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: Carman and Gerrod Jerry. 444 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 5: Browns fans, get your Cleveland brown single game tickets now 445 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 5: for all the great matchups at Cleveland brown Stadium. Visit 446 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns dot com. 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It's certainly Himan. 455 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 6: AFC and NFC West the West or the West the West. 456 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: That's the case, then I have to go with I'm 457 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna go with rus Wilson. I think he's gonna get 458 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: being back to being dangerous again. I'd put him over Garoppolo, 459 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: and I was certainly put him over. 460 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert isn't an alive quarterback. 461 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: Oh gods, I forget all about Herbert. Yeah, you did 462 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: fack good lord, So no, I'm gonna go with Herbert. 463 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: I actually know what Russell would give you, some love 464 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: Russ Herbert his game, Herbert then. 465 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 6: Gpolo, No, so double down. I was helping you. 466 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: Speaking of my lord, You're gonna send me to the 467 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 5: upper room with these terrible takes. Come on, Gerrod, terrible takes. 468 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: Did you see him in the preseason game? 469 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: Hey man, he's working back to his game. So right 470 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: now you're saying if Bruss Wilson is able to return 471 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: to for him like he was in Seattle in his heyday, 472 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: you're telling me Herbert's played better than that. 473 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: There's a lot of guys who look good during the 474 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 5: regular season. There are a few guys who look bad 475 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 5: during the regular season. 476 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 6: Most of them stayed bad. 477 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, super Bowl champion like ten years ago, Hey, 478 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion. 479 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 5: Okay, then Joe Montana, he was in the NFC West. 480 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 5: Throw him in there. He's a super Bowl champman in. 481 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: A super Bowl jymy four time, not just a super 482 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Bowl four time. 483 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 5: Four times. Not as much as Tom. But he's got 484 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 5: four of them. Hey, he's got four rings. No, it's 485 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I I do think that the media 486 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: over rates justin Herbert, and I think there's a lot 487 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: of history between that because I think that they overrated twist. 488 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 6: Second, I loa. 489 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 5: Coming out of They like his hair, Yeah, hair is nice. 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 5: His hair is Have you ever seen him with short hair? 491 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: No, I have not. 492 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 5: It's like a different person he is, Like I'm telling you, 493 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 5: it's a different person standing there playing for the LA Chargers. 494 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 5: It is shocking how different he looks with short hair. 495 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 5: Like some guy's like, oh, he's got short hair, like 496 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 5: Girod has long hair. Drod has short hair. No, this 497 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: is this is like a totally different man. I put 498 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: I put Justin Herbert's second. Boy, I won't let me 499 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 5: take a look at this real quick. Let me take 500 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: a look at the standings, just to make sure I 501 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 5: got my team's right. Would I put Rock Perdy ahead 502 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 5: of Russell Wilson? 503 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 6: Right now? Would I put what? I? Would I do that? 504 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: No? 505 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 6: I still wouldn't do that, all right? Have I put 506 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: Jimmy G ahead of him? 507 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: You would? 508 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: Gibbs is shaking his head. You wouldn't put Jimmy G 509 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 6: ahead of Russell Wilson right now? All right? 510 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: Maybe I wouldn't, but I would definitely put Justin Herbert 511 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: ahead of him with a bullet way ahead. That's fair 512 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: way ahead of him, all right? Fact or fiction? Trav 513 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 5: Kelsey is the best non quarterback in the NFL. 514 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: Good question, Okay, Now we're based upon AFC, NFC West 515 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: again or just in general? 516 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 6: I think it's just in general? 517 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: In general? Ah, I'm gonna have to say no, simply 518 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: because defensive ends in particular impact the game more than 519 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: he can as a tight end. He is something special, 520 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: and I get why he was raided a number five 521 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: as the best player by his peers in the National 522 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Football League. But I'm gonna have to say no on 523 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: that one. 524 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: Is he number two as far as the non as 525 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 5: the non quarterbacks are concerned, Like, all right, number one 526 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 5: is obviously Patrick Mahomes. Number two. Who would I put 527 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 5: number two? I mean, Joe Burrow's up there, he's pretty good. 528 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: When I put Justin Jefferson up there? 529 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: There you go? 530 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 5: You know what, Miles, what would you put Nick bos 531 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: I think Nick Bosa was rated top five from the 532 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: NFL one hundred. 533 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 6: Would you put Nick Bosa up there? 534 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: I would based upon his position as a defensive end 535 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: rush in certain. 536 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 5: I think, because now all right here he goes. Number 537 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 5: one is Patrick Mahomes, But that wasn't part of the question. 538 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 5: Number two, man, I think Justin Justin Jefferson's really good. 539 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put jeff Justin Jefferson number two. Number three, 540 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put Travis Kelsey numberour. I'm'n put Nick Bosa. 541 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 6: How you like that? 542 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: Yep? So we were both in agreement that he's just 543 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: je really good. 544 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: He is, I mean, top five out of the I mean, 545 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 5: my goodness, gracious, and remember he's like, what thirty three 546 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 5: years old? 547 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 6: So it's not like he's a spring chicken anymore. 548 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: Test upper stages of his career for sure. 549 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 5: Yes, yes he is factor Fiction. Three teams from the 550 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 5: AFC West make the playoffs. 551 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I can't say fiction fast enough. I can see the 552 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: LA Chargers, and I can certainly see the Chiefs making it. 553 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't see that for the Raiders, and I don't 554 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: see that for the. 555 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 5: I agree with you wholeheartily about that. We can move on. 556 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: Are you buying or selling the Seattle Seahawks in twenty 557 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: twenty three was last year of fluke. 558 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: Ah man, I'm gonna sell and and Gino will, all 559 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: due respect, comeback player of the Year. And you've held 560 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: your time and you've done awesome sticking with it and 561 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: showing that adversity truly does build character and just being 562 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: a man out there. But I just got a sense 563 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: and feel that the league is not gonna catch up 564 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: to you guys. And with that being said that, no, 565 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be as good as they were last year. 566 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: You know what, well what were they? I mean, they 567 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: were a playoff team last year caliber team. Last year 568 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 5: they're playing in the NFC. You know what I'm gonna buy. 569 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna buy Seattle. I think San Francisco is probably 570 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: gonna run away with this division. I think the Rams 571 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 5: are gonna have a tough tough time with things. I 572 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: think it Cardinals gonna division. 573 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 574 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 5: I think Arizona Cardinals are one of the worst teams 575 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 5: in the NFL, maybe the worst team in the NFL 576 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 5: this year. If I'm looking at my division champions, I 577 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: think the Bucks have a look at it. I think 578 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 5: that Detroit has a look at it right now, although 579 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 5: I worry about how last season ended and were just 580 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 5: putting all our stock in the head coach, like the 581 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 5: quarter back has to show up and play. 582 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 6: We know this. 583 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 5: Dallas is going to be a threat. The Eagles are 584 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: going to be a threat. The Giants are well coached. 585 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 5: So I'm looking at the Eagles and Giants possibly as 586 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 5: a as a wild card spot. So then I'm looking 587 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: at Seattle. I don't think Seattle is gonna win the division, 588 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 5: but I think they could possibly vuy. I think they 589 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 5: could buy for a wild card spot. They're they're they're 590 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 5: in the mud gerad. They win dirty. They'll pull you 591 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 5: down in the in the gutter and they will fight 592 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: you through it. I mean, I I really respect Pete 593 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 5: Carroll what he's done with that team. 594 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: I do, and I do too, and he's has a 595 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: great track record. But I want to go back to 596 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: the Giants debo I believe in as a coach. However, 597 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't think this Saquon Barkley thing is as smooth 598 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: over as people might think. Oh, I think the remans 599 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: of that will go into the season, and I can 600 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: see a situation that win the quarterback that being m 601 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: starts a struggle. Daniel Jones stars a struggle. 602 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 6: About Dwan Jones, so forget Daniel Jones with good reason. 603 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones starts struggling. You can see a situation where 604 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: people are like, see, you shouldn't gave him all that money. 605 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's quite all fair weather in 606 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: NYC with the Giants. So we'll see. Because so I 607 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: could see them actually not making it to the playoffs 608 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: as well. 609 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: I mean he threw for what, fifteen touchdowns and five interceptions. 610 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: I mean that stoddard kid from Madonna does that in 611 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 5: about three weeks. Not the interceptions either, just the touchdowns touchdown. 612 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a fan of Daniel Jones as 613 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 5: a player. I mean, I'm sure he's a nice guy, 614 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 5: but I'm not a fan of him as a quarterback. 615 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 5: I think that they needed to sign Saquon Barkley. That 616 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: holdout was weird. He basically held out for what like 617 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 5: nine hundred thousand extra dollars, which is nine hundred thousand. 618 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: Extra dollars bad nothing. 619 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 6: You can buy a. 620 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: Very very very nice home still in twenty twenty three 621 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 5: for nine hundred thousand extra dollars. I know that's before taxes. 622 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: I'm still a Saquon Barkley proponent, but if he goes down, 623 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 5: I think the Giants go right down in the gutter exactly. 624 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think they're going down the drain. 625 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: But I think in that gutter or the Seattle Seahawks 626 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: ready to fight anybody and ready to take a wild 627 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: card spot. All right, factor Fiction, the Arizona Cardinals should 628 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 5: just play Colt McCoy and play for a top three 629 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: draft pick next season. 630 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Fiction. They don't need to play Colt McCoy. Putting Murray 631 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: out there be just as good. So fiction. 632 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa wow. 633 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: People can't see Gerard's face. He's looking at me straight face, 634 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: like he I thought you were just taking shots at 635 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. You are dead serious about this. 636 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: Yes, serious about it. I mean, look at the situation 637 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: they have at hand. Cliff is no longer there and 638 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: he's just dead men walking at this point. And Colt McCoy, 639 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: we've seen him here and God bless Cole. He's had 640 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: a fantastic career, long one, but putting him in that fire, 641 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: no need. Just put Murray out there. Those guys don't 642 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: want to follow Murray. So if you're really trying to 643 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: tank and get Caleb Williams, your best bet is to 644 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: put Murray out there. 645 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 6: I can't believe how quickly it's gone up and flots 646 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 6: for Kyler Murray. 647 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: It seems. 648 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 6: I know there was the injury, and I know he 649 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 6: got this. 650 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, you promise, but they did They did that, Gerard 651 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 5: Day did that. Who puts a proviso in there to 652 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 5: go ahead and study and do that and then somebody 653 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 5: leaks it. Somebody leaks it. Then remember they tried to say, well, 654 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 5: this is standard, and then they took it out of there, 655 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 5: which is silly. It's absolutely silly because what you're doing 656 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: you're cutting on not just the player, you're cutting on 657 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 5: the type of worker. He is, which is a personal shot. 658 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 5: It's a very personal thing. So now he's going the 659 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: young man does need some confidence. Now I'm not the 660 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 5: biggest Kyler Murray fan in the world, but you're gonna 661 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: need some confidence and you need the backing of the 662 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 5: organization that you play for, and immediately you have that. 663 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 6: That's an embarrassment as it is. 664 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: So you basically gave money to a guy you don't trust, 665 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: which is the worst thing a football team can do, 666 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 5: especially at the quarterback position. 667 00:31:52,680 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Larceny. The agent, the the head coach, the quarterback all 668 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: in question here. We're all under the same agency, so 669 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: they all got paid ran Larcy. No one talks about 670 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: that part of it, but that's a fact. 671 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: Either of these divisions. Who wins both of these divisions 672 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: or either of these divisions? You can't win both, but 673 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 5: either go ahead. 674 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: For the West, it's no brainer. For NFC, it's the 675 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, yep. And then. 676 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 6: FC West, Are you not taking Kansas City? 677 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have a malaise if you will, 678 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go actually say, you know what, Stanley's 679 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna get his act together and he's going to be 680 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Wow. 681 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 5: Locally sourced Brandon Staley. Look at him taking that Chargers 682 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: team to a division title. I don't know if Jason 683 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 5: Gibbs agrees, but you know what I think I do. No, 684 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna still say Kansas City, but I think the 685 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 5: Chargers get in with a playoff Berth. I think they 686 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 5: get in the wild card. It's gonna be tough, though. 687 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: The FC's just a juggernaut this season, all the way 688 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 5: up and down. 689 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 6: We are gonna know. 690 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: Coming up in a bit, we'll tell you what we're 691 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: looking forward to on Saturday afternoon. Does the Browns take 692 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 5: on the Kansas City Chiefs? Up next, the voice of 693 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: her Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan. You're listening to the Cleveland 694 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 5: Browns preview show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 695 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 6: This is Brown's running back Nick Schubb. 696 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: This is Brown's defensive Ben Miles Gert. 697 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 8: This is Greg News from the Second and you are 698 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 8: listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. University 699 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 8: Hospitals is your hometown medical team, an official healthcare provider 700 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 8: of the Cleveland Browns. 701 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 5: After a preseason tie in Philadelphia, year, Browns head West 702 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 5: to Kansas City to take on the Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. 703 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 5: It's actually Geha Field at Arrowhead if we want to 704 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 5: get particular about it, but it will always be sweet 705 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 5: Arrowhead to me one pm the kickoff on Saturday. Jim Donovan, 706 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: Nathan's gera Jerrod Cherry on the call, and the voice 707 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 5: of here Cleveland Browns joins us right now, Jim Donovan, Jim, 708 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: thanks for joining us tonight. 709 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 9: Hey guys, good to be with you. 710 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 6: What did you. 711 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 5: Think of the play of just about everybody in the 712 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 5: eighteen eighteen game against the Philadelphia Eagles. Did they play fast? 713 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: Did they play as tough as the Browns are going 714 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: to need him to this year? 715 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 9: Yeah? I think defensively, I think watching the first three games, 716 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 9: I've noticed that the pace of play has picked up 717 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 9: a great deal. I mean, they do, as we say, 718 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 9: kind of fly around, which is good. I think that 719 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 9: maybe especially last year, I think when we were so 720 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 9: optimistic about the Browns defense, I thought that they were 721 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 9: a little reactionary. They kind of reacted all the time 722 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 9: to what the offense was doing, and a lot of 723 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 9: times that didn't work. This is different. I think this 724 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 9: Browns defense is forcing the offense to kind of react 725 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 9: to them a great deal, which I think the shoe 726 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 9: is suddenly on the other foot and it feels much better. 727 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 9: So I think defensively, what I have seen and we 728 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 9: really haven't seen it with the first team defense other 729 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 9: than that brief amount of plays against Washington on that 730 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 9: rainy Friday night, I think that's a good sign. I 731 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 9: think offensively, I mean, it's fun watching Dorian Thompson Robinson. 732 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 9: He's been a lot of fun to watch. I think 733 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 9: his teammates have a lot of fun playing with him, 734 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 9: and I think that's been great. But the story has 735 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 9: been Austin Watkins. You know, he's been tremendous at wide receiver. 736 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 9: I mean, what a find he has been so far. 737 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 9: And obviously the disappointing part was Kate York and the 738 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 9: way that game finished up in Philadelphia and the two 739 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 9: misses they could have won the game. That's troubling. 740 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: And Jim out of the rookie class, which one of 741 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: the rookies have you found the most intriguing on what 742 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: they've done in the preseason game so far? 743 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 9: Well, I would have to say, you know dtr and 744 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 9: I watched him in college because he played so much 745 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 9: in college at UCLA, but still he has surprised me, 746 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 9: and it's been a pleasant surprise watching him, because I 747 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 9: think quarterback is a really difficult position to come in 748 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 9: and play right away in the NFL and to be 749 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 9: plopped in there the way he was, and he's taken 750 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 9: advantage of it, and he's made a lot of really 751 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 9: good plays, really smart plays, you know, a couple of 752 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 9: plays that maybe weren't so educated in the game of quarterback. 753 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 9: But I mean, I think he's been a real pleasant 754 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 9: surprise for a fifth round draft choice and kind of 755 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 9: buried with all of these, especially the quarterbacks that were 756 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 9: at the top of the draft. He's been a lot 757 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 9: of fun. But like I say, really some of the 758 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 9: guys that they have found, you know, the safety from 759 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 9: Ohio State, you know, coming in Hitman and McAllister have 760 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 9: been a really pleasant surprise. The receiver I spoke of 761 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 9: has been right at the top of the list. I mean, 762 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 9: the young linebackers Diabate and Charlie Thomas have played really well. 763 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 9: Some of those guys that really weren't drafted by them, 764 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 9: but they were found by them and brought in. They 765 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 9: have been a very pleasant surprise and I think make 766 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 9: for some difficult decisions coming up next week. 767 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 6: What do you think you. 768 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 5: Need to see out of this offense, the first team 769 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 5: offense against Kansas City Saturday. 770 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 9: Jim, I think, you know, Ken, when they did play 771 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 9: against Washington and they came out and they and they 772 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 9: had that series where they went down and of course 773 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 9: they stalled inside the one yard line. It would be 774 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 9: great to see them finish a drive off. But the 775 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 9: thing I really liked about them is their pace of 776 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 9: play was very fast too, and I think that they 777 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 9: really had the defense on its heels, being the Commander's defense, 778 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 9: and really Washington's number one defense was in there on 779 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 9: that Friday night, so they were going up against the 780 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 9: Commander's best, which is pretty good, especially that front four. 781 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 9: It's one of the best in the NFL. I liked 782 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 9: the way, you know, they just weren't sauntering up to 783 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage. I mean, they were right up there. 784 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 9: I thought Deshaun Watson was in much better command than 785 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 9: you know, the glimpses we had of him last year 786 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 9: in those six games. I think if they would continue 787 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 9: with that, and I would like to see the starting 788 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 9: offense kind of push the ball down the field with 789 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 9: a little bit more range. I'd like to see longer throws. 790 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 9: I'd like to see some depth in the rather than 791 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 9: checkdowns and screen passes and passes you know, out in 792 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 9: the flat. That's what I would like to see. 793 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: And then Jim, when we think about the game this Saturday, 794 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: Costfanski said twenty to twenty five plays. What are your 795 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: thoughts on him saying that the Stars will only play 796 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: that many reps? 797 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 9: Well, I think we'd all like to see them play 798 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 9: a little bit more, you know. I think the tough 799 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 9: part you'rerod about the preseason, especially for fans and really 800 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 9: the media probably too, is it's really, in the case 801 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 9: of the Browns this year, it's four games of ifs 802 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 9: and butts, because there's a lot of ifs and butts 803 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 9: because you watch them play and you say, all right, 804 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 9: they stalled at the one yard line, but if they 805 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 9: had Nick Chubb in there, they probably would have gotten 806 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 9: it in, gotten in and scored a touchdown. So you know, 807 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 9: there are no definitive answers sometimes because of who's playing 808 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 9: and more importantly who's not playing. I would like to 809 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 9: see them play, you know, I guess We'll have to 810 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 9: see how the game unfolds, how many possessions they have, 811 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 9: how long those possessions are. Defensively, probably, you know, can 812 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 9: they get off the field. This will be a great test. 813 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 9: Defenses have a tough time getting off the field against 814 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 9: this Kansas City offense led by Patrick Mahomes and all 815 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 9: of the people around him. So I think, you know, 816 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 9: I think that he'll have to measure how much work 817 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 9: he wants them to get in. And I think, you know, 818 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 9: because I heard him mention it yesterday. I think he's 819 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 9: worried about the weather conditions and the heat that is 820 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 9: going to be present in Kansas City over the weekend 821 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 9: and on Saturday afternoon, and that will probably figure in too, 822 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 9: be a factor too. 823 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 5: I mean, Jim, you look at it, absolutely oppressive ninety 824 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 5: three on Saturday. So hopefully the air conditioner is going 825 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 5: to be pumping over there in the press box and 826 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 5: hopefully they can get around the cool fans coming up 827 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 5: real quick, Dwan Jones, your level of trust with him 828 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 5: in case he's called into action this year. 829 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 9: It has grown and grown and grown. It really has 830 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 9: ken from the rookie mini camp after he was drafted 831 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 9: where you're kind of went, Wow, a lot of work 832 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 9: gonna have to be done here. So I have to say, 833 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 9: on all of three different play right on Dewan's part, 834 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 9: on Bill Callahan's part, on Scott Peters part, they have 835 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 9: done a great job working together to get him up 836 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 9: to speed, and the fact that they played him that 837 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 9: entire game against the Jets in the Hall of Fame 838 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 9: game really served a purpose. And he has just gotten 839 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 9: better and better. So my level of trust, at least 840 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 9: from what I'm watching out on the field and watching 841 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 9: him play, is growing by leaps and bounds. I mean, 842 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 9: I'm very very comfortable with him. I thought I would 843 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 9: be feeling that way about James Hudson, for instance, and 844 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 9: that's been a little bit slower to come now I 845 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 9: think it's coming, But Dwant Jones has really shot up 846 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 9: the favorability category very very quickly. 847 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 5: Jim, we thank you very much for the time. We're 848 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 5: looking forward to talking to you on Sunday. 849 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 9: All right, guys, take care, Thank you very. 850 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 5: Much, Jim Donovan. Of course, it's Saturday afternoon at one, 851 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 5: not Sunday Saturday afternoon at one. I'm already getting ready 852 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 5: for season. Mojerad, I'm sorry Jim Donovan. You'll hear Jim, 853 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 5: Nathan and Gerard Saturday afternoon at one pm. Make sure 854 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: you're listening Saturday. We'll tell you what's on Saturday as 855 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 5: well as Thursday with the Kevin Stefanski Show, and what 856 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 5: we're looking forward to on Saturday. Coming up next on 857 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns Preview Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland 858 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 5: Browns Radio Network. 859 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 7: When loser draw, if you don't play the standard, there's 860 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 7: corrections to be made and there's things to be done 861 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 7: that are gonna benefit the team, and we're all trying 862 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 7: to work to those goals. 863 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. You're listening to 864 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 4: the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Here are your 865 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: host is Kim Carmen and Gerad Cherry. 866 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 5: Browns and Chiefs Coming up Saturday afternoon one pm. The 867 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 5: kickoff time for that Browns game day with you at 868 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 5: nine a m. At Fontana and Gerrod Cherry. We'll lead 869 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 5: you up to eleven am when Andy Basket and Tyvis 870 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 5: Powell take over for the Cleveland Browns Kickoff show that 871 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 5: coming up at eleven and then it's one pm kickoff 872 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 5: from Geha Field at Arrowhead with Jim Donovan, Nathan Zegera, 873 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 5: and Rod Cherry on the sideline. I also remember the 874 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski Show. It's coming up Tuesday night, seven pm. 875 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 5: Nathan's Gera and Girod Cherry coach is gonna join him. 876 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: That's Kevin Stefanski. We and Brown's cornerback Denzel Ward. Denzel 877 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 5: Ward gonna be on the show. Local hero Denzel Ward. 878 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 5: Make sure you're listening Tuesday night, seven pm, Gerrod. The 879 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: last pre game preseason game of the year, the Dress Rehearsal. 880 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 5: What are you the three time Super Bowl champion looking 881 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 5: forward to with the Cleveland Browns on Saturday. 882 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching Deshaun and Watson take the 883 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: football field and seeing what he can do with it. 884 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: Can he give us drives up and down the football 885 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: field with those twenty to twenty five plays and look 886 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: crisp and clean with no caffeine in the process. 887 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 6: Where did you learn that? 888 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: Soloo? 889 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 6: That is old style, my friend. 890 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 5: What I want to see I just want to see 891 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 5: him getting in out of the offense, get well and 892 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 5: get everything running well. I want to feel good about 893 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 5: this offense the way I did after the game against 894 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 5: Washington a couple of weeks ago. I want to the 895 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 5: offensive line moving concert. I want to see Dewan Jones 896 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 5: have another nice game. I wonder if he's going to 897 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 5: be starting at the right tackle spot because of Jack Conklin. 898 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: I want to see Dorian Thompson Robinson if he can play. 899 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 5: I know that Josh Dobbs will probably get a lot 900 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 5: of play as well. You know, if Dorian Thompson Robinson 901 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 5: can really seize that spot on the fifty three man. 902 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of starters here that are 903 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 5: going to play maybe some significant time there, but it 904 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 5: looks like Dorian Thompson Robinson might be able to play 905 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 5: as well. And I think there's a lot of guys here. 906 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 5: This is a deep football team that a lot of 907 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 5: people were excited about. And we'll get to see him 908 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 5: at one pm on Saturday. Remember the Kevin Stefanski Show 909 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 5: Tuesday Night, Nathan's gerra Gerrod Cherry coach and Brown's cornerback 910 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 5: Denzel Ward Tuesday night, seven pm, then one pm kickoff 911 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 5: on Saturday. But so much more coming up before that 912 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 5: non am Brown's game Day eleven am. The Cleveland Browns 913 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 5: kickoff show and then the game. Brown's Chiefs from Arrowhead, 914 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 5: Jim Donovan, Nathan's Ger and Gerrod Cherry at one pm 915 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 5: on Saturday at Thanks as Olwa's to our producer Meredith 916 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 5: Kane and our executive producer Jason Gibbs for my good 917 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 5: buddy Gerrod sharing. I'm Ken Carmon. 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