1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast. Amen TJ. Here we 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: are going to chance to interview each other. Robot sitting 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: next to me now, and what I can't remember what 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: your answer was when you interviewed me. Are you someone 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: who prefers to ask the questions or do you like 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: being interviewed? 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: I always like asking the questions more than answering them. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, with that said, I'm about to ask you 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: a series of questions and folks, just so you know, 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: we have not so we didn't. She has no idea 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: what I'm about to ask her, what direction any of 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: this is going to go? And with that, here we go. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: Why haven't you done an interview before? Now, since all 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: this went down, you haven't spoken? Haven't done an interview? 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Why not? 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Because I know as a journalist, when you give your 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: story to someone else, you then put your story in 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: their hands. They can edit it, they can change meanings, 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: they can change context. And after everything that I've experienced 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: being on the other side of the headlines, instead of 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: reporting them, I became them, I knew what can happen 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: when you give your story or you give an interview 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: to someone else. It can be misconstrued and I was 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: not interested in doing that. I wanted to tell my 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 2: own story. 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Was you do it live? 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I would have if I had been with someone 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: who I trusted. The problem is, and I don't mind 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: answering questions that I don't know ahead of time. Clearly 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: here we are right now doing it. But I wanted 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: it to be the right time, and it wasn't the 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: right time yet. I wanted things to quiet down. I 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: didn't want there to be all of the mayhem that 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: was surrounding us be a part. 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Of the question do you think you're ready now? 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: I think that I would be ready. 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: I still believe that with everything that you and I 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: want to say, it's better to have our own platform 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: in our own home, because I do still feel a 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: massive distrust for the industry that I once worked. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: You say everything you and you want to say it 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: was is you want to say. 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: I've been saying it. I just want to set the 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: record straight. I think our narrative, I know, I don't think. 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: I know that our narrative was stolen from us, and 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: unfortunately many people still believe what they read. And so yes, 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: I would still and I'm going to and we're going 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: to still speak out and. 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: Speak up about it, but I'd prefer to do it 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: on this podcast. 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: Do you have so you have at this point no 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: plans were doing an interview. 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't have any plans right now, but I wouldn't. 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't at this point. I wouldn't say no. If 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: the right opportunity came up and the right person asked, 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: I would likely say yes. 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Pick someone. Who would it be the one person to 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: do one interview with you? 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: Hoe to copy Savannah Go three. 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: I've known them, I love them, I worked with them. 61 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: I trust them probably more than any other two journalists 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: because I know them. 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: You might you're gonna do that on solo? 64 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: Well, you were just asking who I would pick. We 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: would obviously have to have a larger conversation about that. 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm cool. I mean, Savannah's fine with that. Oda, 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: that's sus I don't know. I'm kidding Oda. You know 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: I love you. What do you think the general consensus is? 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: What do you think people think of you? 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Wow? The people who know me, That's not what. 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. The people who general in general, general 72 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: consensus from the public. What do you think people think 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: of you? Wow? 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, I think that 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if they believe the tabloids, they think I'm 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: a cheater and a home wrecker. 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: And all these awful things. 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: And I think if they actually have followed my career 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: and have followed me in whatever I've chosen to share 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: on social media, I think that they get a fuller 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: picture and they know that I love my daughters, I 82 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: love running. I am a passionate person who lives life 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: to the fullest and uses her time to pursue joy. 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Call comes from Disney today. They want you back in 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the same capacity that you were in previously. How long 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: do you need to decide and call them back? 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: The first person I would call would be you, and 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: it would Matt. It would I would need to know 89 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: what the job. 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: Was, same same thing, coming back to the exact same role. 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: But would you be there with me? No, then the 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: answer would be no. That wouldn't take me long at all. 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I am with you. It's a different answer. 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: I would need to discuss it with you, and I 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: would need we would need at least twenty four hours 96 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: to think about that. 97 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: Would you have ever left that job? 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: I would almost certainly have not chosen to leave the 99 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: job that I had because it was a dream job. 100 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Did you ever, at any point your ABC career get 101 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: close to leaving voluntarily? 102 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: I considered it after the hot mic incident where I 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: was talking about my frustrations about not getting to air 104 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: a piece I had had and had worked on about 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein, and when I was taken off the air 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: for a bit or at least just not asked to 107 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: be on the show for a month, I considered leaving. 108 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: Yes, who is someone that stands out to you that 109 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you are actually shocked that you have not heard from 110 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: still since all this happened. 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: That's a tough one. 112 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: Who have I not heard from since this all happened 113 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: that I'm shocked by? I don't know if I want 114 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: to say. 115 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: But you do have something in mine? Yes, but you I. 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: Don't want to call this person out. 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: I give us Obviously you would be able to say 118 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: it to me but in private. But is there nothing 119 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: you can say about who this person was or where 120 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: they were in your life without actually given giving away 121 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: whould Actually I. 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: Would just say there are people who I worked with 123 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: every single day, who I thought I was close to, 124 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: who then showed me who they really were When They 125 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: didn't check in ever, not. 126 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Once outside of me. What relationship in your life is 127 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: better after all this happened than it was before all 128 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: this happened? 129 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: My mom and dad? 130 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: What relationship is worse after all this happened than it was? 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: Two friendships? 132 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: But those two friendships still exist? 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: No, they're gone, so. 134 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't count. 135 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: It was because of all of this. 136 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Okay, But that relationship is not worse, is non existent. 137 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: So what relationship do you still have that still exists 138 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: that is a struggle now versus what it was before? 139 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: Right now, in this moment, a relationship that is worse 140 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: because of all of this? I believe right now there 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: were ones that took hits along the way, But right now, 142 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: in this moment, there's no relationship that I currently have 143 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: that is worse because of what happened. I think, well, 144 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: I know all of them are now currently better than 145 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: they were. 146 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: You spoke a moment ago about what people think. How 147 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: important is it to you what people think of you? 148 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Not privately but on a larger public way. 149 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: It matters to me. 150 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: I have always and I wish that it didn't, but 151 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 2: it does. I have always wanted to. 152 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: Be liked, to be respected, to be someone that someone 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: looks up to. Yes, so it does. 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: Matter a lot. That's in all of us. I guess 155 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: you're not alone in that. I'm saying. Is there something 156 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: you can think of that you should or could say? 157 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I am sorry to your pan parents about for your 158 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: behavior from birth through college graduation, so essentially when you 159 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: were still under their care. There anything you would okay, 160 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry or apologize to them for. 161 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: Sure, Mom and dad. 162 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: I am sorry for my selfish attitude as a teenager. 163 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: I am sorry for sneaking out almost every weekend when 164 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: you grounded me. I am sorry for not understanding how 165 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: hard it is to be a parent and to not 166 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: give them. I didn't give them the grace to just 167 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: be humans. I wanted them to be perfect, and I 168 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: was angry when they weren't. I am sorry for. 169 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: This is up until college, you said, Oh. 170 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am sorry for all the back talking I did. 171 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: I think that doesn't come as a surprise to you. 172 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry for all the doors I slammed. I 173 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: think we're good. 174 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: It was absolutely the most, the funniest and most tragic 175 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: story I've heard from anyone's childhood is that your dad 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: told me the story of it sounds crazy, all the 177 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: doors I slammed, but her dad actually, to punish her, 178 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: removed her door from the hinges and she did not 179 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: have a door your entire senior year of high school? 180 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Do I have that story right? 181 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: That is correct? And I will give you the lead 182 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: up to that. So when I have a. 183 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: Temper and when I get angry, I slammed doors when 184 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: I was younger. I don't do that anymore, obviously, but 185 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: when I was younger, it was my one thing I 186 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: could do, and I would just get upstairs and slam 187 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: my door. So my parents, as a punishment would make 188 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: me open and close the door nicely, quietly, fifty times 189 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: fifty This happened a couple of times, and on forty nine, 190 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: when I got to fifty, on my fiftieth one, I 191 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: would slam it. And so I did that, I believe twice. 192 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: And that is it for my dad. He removed my door. 193 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: True story, And my dad told you it so, oh 194 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: yeah earlier. 195 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: He's actually really proud of it. 196 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: So many things start to make sense, don't they. Amn 197 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Are you were you nervous about the impression you were 198 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: going to make on my parents? 199 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, yes, I was nervous. 200 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: I was very nervous about what they would think of me, 201 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, I definitely was. 202 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Did you prepare in some way for it? 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: No, I just I just leaned into my like, I 204 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: am who I am. I can't be anything other than 205 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: who I am, and so I'm just gonna be me. 206 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: You didn't ask for advice from anyone. You didn't read 207 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: up on the civil rights movement or anything like that. 208 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Wait, you made fun of me. I was watching a 209 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: movie on a plane. I was coming back from something 210 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: right before I met them, this thing you made fun 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: of me. 212 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: Yet, Wait, it was something. It was a really black movie. 213 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: You were with your parents already and I happened to watch. 214 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: It was some black movie that I hadn't seen before, 215 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: and I just saw it on the plane. It was 216 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: not timed in any way to meeting your parents, and 217 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: you called me out on it and were making fun 218 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: of me, as if I was doing that to prepare 219 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: to meet your parents. 220 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: It is. 221 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: I wish I can remember which movie it was. 222 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: And I'm joking. It wasn't as bad as soul playing, y'all. 223 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm kidding something it was. 224 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't Boomerang because I've already seen that, but it 225 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: was something like that. 226 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: It was like a heavy movie like it was. It 227 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: was a Spike Lee movie. I knew I was going 228 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 4: to come up with it. It was Do the Right Thing, 229 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: you know what. I had never seen it, and I got. 230 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: Worried, well, because you hadn't seen Do the Right Thing. 231 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: And I've interviewed Spike before, and I was so nervous, 232 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: and I remember being mad at myself that I hadn't 233 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: watched it beforehand. I wasn't talking to him about that movie, 234 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: but I thought, my god, how can I interview Spike 235 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: Lee and not have seen that. So it was always 236 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: in the back of my mind. And when I was 237 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: on a plane, I saw it was not timing it 238 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: out with meeting her parents, and I happened to watch 239 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: it and I loved it. 240 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm going off my list here a little bit. 241 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: Have you seen Roots? 242 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: No, I was young when it came out. What year 243 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: did that come out? 244 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: I was a young girl? 245 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we know, we know. 246 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Okay, on my list, you know, I'm I'm gonna stop there, 247 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: but up next we are going to get a little 248 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: more personal, including about our relationship and the questioning is 249 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: going to start with a spelling bee. Stay here. Great, 250 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: all right, we are back here with the Q and 251 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: a TJ interviewing Roebock. Right now, we left off talking 252 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:13,359 Speaker 1: about roots, soul plaining, do the right thing, and some 253 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: watching we need to do over the weekend. Yes, but 254 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: I'll continue with the line of questioning here. Next question 255 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: is can you spell lutilius? 256 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to write it out as I say it. 257 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: L o U t E l I o U s 258 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: what you had to spell it out? 259 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean you had to write it. 260 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: That made me feel more comfortable. 261 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I do that with Roebock as well. 262 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm a visual person. 263 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: When was the first time you looked at me in 264 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: a non friend zone way? 265 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: I believe that we were walking back. 266 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: From have dinner with friends, and on the walk back 267 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: you walk me back. I felt something different in the 268 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: way we were looking at each other. 269 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: I know that exact time you're talking about. I know 270 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. 271 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: We didn't say anything. I didn't say anything, you didn't 272 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: say anything, but I felt something. 273 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: We had That was a fun night. That was I 274 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: remember that. Okay, we made a stop. Yes, given your experience, 275 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: your life experience, your love experience. What advice would you 276 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: give to someone regarding the reasons to get married again. 277 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't want you to say, hey, don't get not 278 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: reasons not to reasons to get married. 279 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: The reasons to get married when someone enhances your life, 280 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: you come to the union as a full, fully formed person. 281 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't think people can plead each other. I think 282 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: they enhance each other. And so if you can find 283 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: that person. If you're looking for someone to complete you, 284 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: I think it's the expectations end up killing so much 285 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: so if you can actually find someone who enhances who 286 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: you are, who brings out the best in you, and 287 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: who makes you want to be a better person, those 288 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: are all really good reasons to get married. And then 289 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: finding that person, of course, it's not going to be perfect. 290 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: You have to be willing to recognize that you're not 291 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: always going to get along and not always you can't 292 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: have this rom com version of what you think a 293 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: marriage should look like. You have to go in with 294 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: real expectations. But once you realize that you want to 295 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: be with that person through the good times and through 296 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: the really tough times, is that the person you want 297 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: in the foxhole with you, is that the person you 298 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: can lean on when things aren't going well. And I 299 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: think when you can find a partnership like that, I 300 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: want a partner in life. I have always wanted that. 301 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: I think that's why I've kept trying. And I do 302 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: believe there is something so beautiful about coming together with 303 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: someone and choosing to be with someone and loving someone. 304 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: I think, I think I've heard this. 305 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: If you like someone, it's because if you love someone, 306 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: it's in spite of But that idea of loving someone 307 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: as much as you love yourself, perhaps even greater than 308 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: you love yourself. That idea of sacrifice, that idea of 309 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: giving instead of getting, I love that, and it enhances 310 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: your life to have a partner. I mean, there's nothing 311 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: I want more, I think than that. I want that 312 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: for my children. I want that for my daughters. 313 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: All right, So, again, giving your experience, what advice would 314 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: you now give to someone regarding reasons to stay or 315 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: not stay in a relationship. 316 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: Who you stay in a relationship, it's worth fighting for 317 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: if you have mutual respect for each other. I do 318 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: believe that love becomes a choice. It's not always just 319 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: this feeling where you're like, oh my god, I'm so 320 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: in love with him. And it's that that comes and goes, 321 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: that that's cyclical. It's when you find someone who you 322 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: can respect and like and are friends with. If you 323 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: can go through life laughing with someone, friends with someone, 324 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: even if you're angry at them and you're mad at them, 325 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: and things may go and events may happen, and they 326 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: may do things that really upset you and anger you. 327 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: But I think if you have that mutual respect, you 328 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: stay and you go if I think it's a really tough, tough, 329 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: tough call to make, But when there are more I 330 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: really think it comes down to when you lose respect 331 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: for someone, I don't know that you can get it back. 332 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: And if you don't like doing basic things with him, 333 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: I think those are big red flags. But respect would 334 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: be the number one thing. When you lose respect for someone, 335 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: I think it's really hard to stay in a marriage. 336 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Can you tell me a bad health habit that you 337 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: have right now that you'd like to break. 338 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: Bad health habit that I would like to break. I'm 339 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: working on it. French fries. I love French fries and 340 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: eating French fries and fried food, fried food. 341 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go the whole thing. 342 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: That is one of my biggest health habits that I 343 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: am working on getting rid of. There's nothing good that 344 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: comes from eating fried food. 345 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Is there a bad health habit that I have that 346 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: you would like for me to break? 347 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: M well, sleeping, lack thereof acting. 348 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: I think you recognized it now, and you've come a 349 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: long way from when I first we're friends with you. 350 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: I think you I don't know. I feel like you 351 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: did not prioritize sleep, and so the more sleep you get, 352 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: the healthier you are. I want you to live as 353 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: long as possible, and so I would like you to 354 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: sleep even more than you do. 355 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: When do you think race has shown up in our relationship? 356 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: It doesn't show up that often, but I'm trying to 357 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: think when it has. It In a recent fight, it has, 358 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: and we're still working through that. 359 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: We've talked about how. 360 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 2: I react, how you react differently to things and people 361 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: based on experiences, and I think I have learned even 362 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: more than I ever could have seeing the world through 363 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: as much as you can show me. 364 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: You can't. 365 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Obviously, I can't walk into your body and know what 366 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: it's like. But I have seen seen things and heard 367 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: things differently because you've experienced them, and I'm standing by 368 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: your side. So in a week we've had these conversations 369 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: and it's been incredibly I opening to me in a 370 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: lot of ways. So it's been a part of our relationship. 371 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't take center stage, but it's something I think 372 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: we mostly I don't think we want to laugh at it, 373 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: but we keep it lighter. But there have been heavy moments. 374 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Can you tell one You've said things you've learned, but 375 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: can you think of something you have learned regarding black 376 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: folks black experience dating a black man that you did 377 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: not know until you got into this with me. 378 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: I hear things that friends or family might say that 379 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: before I was dating you, I wouldn't have considered offensive 380 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: that Now I see r when people are trying to 381 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: when white people and I know who they are, and 382 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: I know they're not bad people, but are kind of 383 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: desperate to connect make bad choices in making everything that 384 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: they say to you about black things, and it's embarrassing 385 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: now to hear it. I think you know most of 386 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: the time it comes from a good place, but it's 387 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: still so hard to listen to now that I know 388 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: how you experience that where you're singled out and you're 389 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: treated differently. 390 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: Do you think it matters to your family whether or 391 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: not we get married. 392 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: I think they would like us to get married. That's 393 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: they are religious people. They are Catholic. And here's the thing. 394 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: My parents have an amazing marriage fifty five no, sorry, 395 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: fifty years, whoops, fifty years and because they have seen 396 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: all the good that comes out of that type of 397 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: commitment and weathering storms, they want that from me. 398 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: So, yes, they do want us to get married. 399 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: But you said you think so, but they've stated so, 400 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: and not just a matter. 401 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: Of when I have said, this is the person I 402 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: want to spend the rest of my life with. I 403 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: don't know for sure if that means us legally getting married, 404 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: but it's on the table. My parents had a very 405 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 2: positive response, right, well, that's so good to hear they 406 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: want that for me and you and us. 407 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Do you think about us missing out on having kids? 408 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 409 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Yes, And what do you think. 410 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: I see your parenting style and it's very similar to mine, 411 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: And that is a gift if any of you all 412 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: out there, any of you out there, have a shared 413 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: parenting style with your partner that makes life h so 414 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: much easier or at least a little bit easier, and 415 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: it feels good to have a similar mode of operation 416 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: when it comes to what we want for our kids, 417 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: what we want to teach them. And what I love 418 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: about you is that you're willing to let your child 419 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: not like you in the moment to teach them a 420 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: lesson to do the right thing. 421 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: And I appreciate that. 422 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: So yes, I have multiple times been a little sad 423 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: that we did not come together at a time where 424 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: we could have had that option. 425 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: I asked you, do you think it matters to your 426 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: family if we get married? Do you think it matters 427 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: in any aspect publicly whether or not we get married. 428 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: I think people are always rooting for love, and in 429 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: this culture, in this society, that usually ends with a wedding. 430 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: So I do think that people who are rooting for 431 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: us are rooting for marriage. Yes, I do. 432 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 3: I think that. 433 00:24:52,280 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: All right, up next, folks, chapstick, tattoos, necklaces, cooking. When 434 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: we come back, I're back with the final installment here, 435 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: Q and A with robes and TJ. I will pick 436 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: right up with these will be on just a variety 437 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: of things, and most of it lighter, fair, but thank god, 438 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: how long Have you had this chapstick addiction for. 439 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: As long as I can remember, as long as I think? 440 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: It started for me when I was seven or eight 441 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: and for Christmas, Santa Claus brought me. 442 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: Do you all remember? 443 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: It came in a candy cane, clear candy cane case, 444 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: and there were soda chapsticks, so doctor pepper, Coca Cola 445 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: A and w root beer. Doctor pepper was my absolute favorite. 446 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: And I think that was the moment, probably at eight, 447 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: where I became addicted to chapstick. 448 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: Do you have any intention of getting any more tattoos? 449 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: Yes? 450 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: What are you getting? 451 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't know yet, but I would only get a 452 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: tattoo at this point probably. 453 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I never want to say never, but my thinking. 454 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: Is that I would get another tattoo with you, and 455 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: we have an idea and we're considering it, and I'm 456 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: considering it all right. 457 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Do you ever want to publicly reveal the significance of 458 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: that chain and pendent around you neck? 459 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: I'm not hiding it and I have no problem revealing it. 460 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so hold on to that one at some point. 461 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: Does it are you comfortable? Does it make you uneasy? 462 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: I know you like the food, but is there any 463 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: issue with me doing all the cooking? 464 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: I love when you cook. 465 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: It's a strange thing for me because I spent the 466 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: first I don't know up until last year doing all 467 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: the cooking. So I'm actually relieved and happy that you 468 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: love to cook. Cooking was always obligatory for me, and 469 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: I did it because I had to, and it was 470 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: more of a chore than something that I love to do. 471 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 2: And I see the love you have for it, so 472 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to abdicate. But I do feel 473 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 2: a little guilty about it because I'm used to doing it, 474 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: So there's like a guilty part of me that feels 475 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: like he shouldn't be doing it all. 476 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: I should be I should be stepping up. 477 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Do you fear that breast cancer or something related to 478 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: it will be the thing that gets you in the end. 479 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I fear that I'm not. 480 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate to admit this, but I don't think 481 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: a day goes by or I don't think about that. 482 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: What was the funniest or most absurd thing you read 483 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: about yourself the past year? 484 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, where do I begin? 485 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is hard because I'm trying to 486 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: think about all the barbs that were thrown my way. 487 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: I think. 488 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was funny or absurd. 489 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: That I basically had like an open bar in my 490 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: dressing room. That was absurd and completely not true. That 491 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: made me I did actually laugh at that, because I 492 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: had a couple bottles of wine in my refrigerator that 493 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: were given to me by my bosses, So that actually 494 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: made me laugh. I just thought that was hilarious. And gosh, 495 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: there have been so many. I'd have to think about 496 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: what some of the silly things were. Can you remember 497 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: any See you look at me trying to interview you. 498 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: All right, Well, if something else comes to my mind, 499 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: I'll bring it up. But that one stands out. 500 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: How many sets about air pods have you lost? 501 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 3: Okay? So it doesn't lie. 502 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: When I look at my Bluetooth and it says my 503 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: current AirPods, it says Amy AirPod six. 504 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 505 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Okay. Why does your brother keep getting goats? 506 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: He is really enjoying farm life in Athens, Georgia. He 507 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: is a doctor, and I think it's just such a 508 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: high stress job. Coming back home and being a gentleman 509 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: farmer of sorts gives him just the peace of being 510 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: one with the land, and he really likes goats. He 511 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: keeps getting more and then they keep having babies. 512 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: They're really cute, as cute as a goat can be. 513 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: What is the thing I do that annoys you most. 514 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: Oh, that's easy. You pop your right elbow. 515 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: That's it a lot? Oh my god, I'm doing any great. 516 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: It's multiple times a day, three tops. Okay, fine, it's 517 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: three times a day. 518 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: That annoys you most well. 519 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's on the silly side, on the deeper side, 520 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: on the deeper side. 521 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: And you already know this. I think you already know 522 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: the answer. When you. 523 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: Don't talk to me when you're quiet, I like to talk, 524 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: but maybe I should like to listen more, and then 525 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: you'd talk more. Why are you doing that not talking thing? 526 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Waiting for you to fill the void? 527 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: Because you know I will, yes, because silence makes me uncomfortable. 528 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Is do you find that in order to live out 529 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: your life with someone, it's necessary for those two people 530 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: to live together. 531 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessary, but I would prefer it. 532 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: But I've seen plenty of people who love having a 533 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: partner and having their own apartment and it works for them. 534 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: I crave connection. I don't need a lot of alone time, 535 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: but I respect someone who does. And I do think 536 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: it's possible to have a life partner who you don't 537 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: live with, but I wouldn't prefer it. 538 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: What are you concerned after this Q and A that 539 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: is going to be manipulated for a negative headline to 540 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: attack you or me? 541 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: Uh? I don't know. 542 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: I actually try not to overthink about what I mean. 543 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: I know it's there and it's in the back of 544 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: my mind, and it makes me nervous generally that anything 545 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: I say kenan will be used against me in a twisted, 546 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: out of context way, because it's happened time and time again, 547 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: and I found it to be kind of fascinating that 548 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: I won't even know the things that. 549 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: They'll pull out. Like I do look at the headlines. 550 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily read the body, but sometimes it's a 551 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: head scratcher, like that's. 552 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: What they jumped on, that's what they said. So I 553 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: honestly don't know. 554 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised every time I do see headlines 555 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: and see how they twist them, and so I kind 556 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 2: of don't want to think about it too much because 557 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to edit who I am or me 558 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: being honest and open. 559 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Last two things here. One, what do you want for 560 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: your birthday? 561 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: I want? 562 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: I want my friends around me. I want there to 563 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: be a celebration of life. I have always been a 564 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: big believer that birthdays are important, and I love when 565 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: people are loud and proud about how old they are, 566 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: because that is something to be grateful for. Every single 567 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: year you get is a gift. So I really do 568 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: think it's nice to be able to take a day 569 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: and celebrate, not necessarily yourself, but just that you get 570 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: to be here, and you get to live another life, 571 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: and you get another year, hopefully on this planet. So 572 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: I just I like to mark time like that. So 573 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: what I want for my birthday is joy. I want celebration, 574 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I want friends, and oh my gosh, I'll be able 575 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: to have a glass of champagne. 576 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: I meant. More so, like, what do I need to 577 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: go buy? 578 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 2: You know that you don't want me to tell you 579 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: what to get me. You know what, You're a really 580 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: good gift giver if even if. 581 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: You told me, I wouldn't go get it. Actually, that's right. 582 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: And last question, where do you want your third wedding 583 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: to be? 584 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: Justice of the piece Vegas. 585 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Wait, which one? 586 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: Either one? Maybe super. 587 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: That's where you want to have it? 588 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm joking. 589 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: Mmm, my third wedding, I really would want it to 590 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: be a very intimate gathering, and I would absolutely run 591 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: off an envelope somewhere. I think that's probably if I 592 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: had to pick, I'd pick eloping and going to Fiji 593 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: or somewhere really nice and far away. 594 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: Right, you really want to get away? 595 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: All right? 596 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: And ma'm is there anything we didn't talk about that 597 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: you wish you had gotten an opportunity to say? 598 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: I think you covered everything well. 599 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, ma'am, and good 600 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: luck for you down the road. We wish you well. 601 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: Bye bye now, folks, Oh that wasn't too bad for you? 602 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: What threw you? 603 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: It was good? Yeah, that's the first time you've ever 604 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: interviewed me. 605 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: Won't be the last. Folks. You can find us, we've said. 606 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: We are now officially on TikTok. The show is. You 607 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: could find Robot and I individually. Also you can find 608 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Amy and TJ podcast, but we 609 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: have our individual Instagram pages as well. So thanks for listening.