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Speaker 1: But the conversation kept going on, only for Tyler Perry

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Speaker 2: Their word the word, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, we sent you the audio of Tyler Perry.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to take me at my word.

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Speaker 3: Is that modey? You know you're not supposed to be

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, let me back up. Everything we

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Speaker 1: And do you know what some people then said, why

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Speaker 1: you know, Shannon? That's cost my family tens of millions

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I want you to talk to Tyler Perry

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Speaker 4: Will you come on club Shay Shay and let's have

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Speaker 2: Do you want better? And give me five on that? Baby?

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Speaker 1: Where do you want better? Shade my husband and I

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Speaker 1: There was Al Sharpton, the Reverend Al Sharpton, civil rights leader. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And now Monique has to apologize publicly to say Oprah

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Speaker 3: But what are you an apology for?

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Speaker 2: You're too difficult to work with.

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Speaker 1: But you here on an audio that a man told

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Speaker 2: Do you see how that cost my family?

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Speaker 1: And with no accountability because oh it's the great Tyler Perry. No,

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Speaker 4: No, No, the only person that's given you an apology

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Speaker 4: So now even though you have him record his voice

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Speaker 3: Why do you record it? So now they're putting the

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Speaker 2: Where's the win? How do we win? How does a

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Speaker 1: And when you say here, he is right here, And

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Speaker 1: If we keep operating like that, Shannon, You're gonna have

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Speaker 4: Why do you think Tyler is afraid to meet with

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Speaker 1: Let me say, yes, people better be glad my husband

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Speaker 1: Why would he want to exclude my management. It's like Tyler,

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate you, Shannon, because most people are too

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Speaker 2: Watching for the black woman?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you looking in that camera right.

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Speaker 2: Out, and we can't, and we've become.

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Speaker 3: The very thing we despise the most.

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Speaker 4: What we despise most about President Trump's ex President Trump

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Speaker 3: Is that no matter what he does or says, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we can't do that.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 4: We can't if somebody is wrong, Like you said, Mo,

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Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't understand what them saying i'm

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Speaker 2: See when I.

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Speaker 4: Read this, because that's not for you and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: It's not for the person that you offended. It's for

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Speaker 4: you because currently you're in hostage your feelings because you.

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Speaker 3: Have to live with that. You live with that what

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Speaker 1: So when you see a woman say me turning seventy.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I've never heard anyone stop it.

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Speaker 2: And I know I'm not the only one.

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Speaker 4: Would you what would you sit if Oprah called mo today?

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I'll do if Oprah call

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Speaker 1: go back to Tyler Perry. You know why Tyler Pray

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Speaker 2: My husband don't careing about that man's money. We don't

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Speaker 2: We care about your intention.

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Speaker 3: What you're gonna pay? What what you what you're gonna pay?

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Speaker 2: How you're gonna make it right? How are you gonna

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Speaker 1: Because if I am your aunt, Mary, and I really

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Speaker 1: I am your sister, and you heard something that was wrong.

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Speaker 3: How how can Tyler Perry make it right?

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Speaker 4: Give you a job, give you your s give you

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Speaker 4: Sitcom? You're gonna be the executive producer. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: If somebody cost you, Shannon Shop millions of dollars, yes,

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Speaker 1: do you want to be compensated for what they cost

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So at that time, I was making roughly between two

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Speaker 2: Twelve for over a decade, like twelve years. You do

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Speaker 1: Over a lie that he admitted that he told now

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Speaker 3: You got I'm sure you got lawyers. Have you had

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Speaker 1: Well, what happens is when you take somebody at their word, time,

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Speaker 2: Don't need to go to no lawyers. Taler, you know

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Speaker 1: Did what what cats say? We've got to you got

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Speaker 7: You have to know who you are. You know who

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Speaker 3: Johnny, you mentioned that you partied. You like to drink alcohol.

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Speaker 4: Was the heavier drugs involved other than alcohol in marijuana?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, college?

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Speaker 3: No, once you got to the league.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's when the real like hiding and reclusing started.

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Speaker 7: And man, I've given Cleveland. I've given Cleveland a really,

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Speaker 5: I was always spotlight.

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Speaker 7: And then I go to Cleveland, I signed with Lebron

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Speaker 5: So now this lamp heat lamp's even hotter on me.

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Speaker 7: I'm not playing, I don't got confidence on the field,

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Speaker 5: Right, So, like my like right with Cleveland is not

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Speaker 7: And I think that's just the bitterness of like how

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you tried hard drugs?

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Speaker 4: What was it about it that made you try it?

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Speaker 4: Did you think because I'm Johnny Football, I can handle this.

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Speaker 3: Even though I tried this.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that persona that I had on the football field

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Speaker 7: So it's all in front of you if you want it,

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Speaker 7: and you're hanging around the wrong circles. It ain't hard

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Speaker 7: kind of goes and it's snowballs and it keeps getting worse,

445
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 7: and you go from cocaine to oxy cotton, to percocets

446
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 7: to mushrooms. I mean, I look at the mushrooms as

447
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 7: a different thing. Now that's not a good thing to say,

448
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 7: but like the harder drugs, the drugs that like tear

449
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 7: you down. I never did anything with needles, never did

450
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 7: anything like that. But the coke and the OxyS and

451
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 7: the percocet were very, very tumultuous in my life, and

452
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 7: like pop their head, especially the days.

453
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 5: Of wandering around the Hollywood hills.

454
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 7: And it makes sense why you see me so sporadic

455
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 7: and like I was two hundred and ten pounds when

456
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 7: I left Cleveland. I was one hundred and seventy pounds

457
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 7: sitting in Vegas that August, that September, October, whatever it

458
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 7: was later than that year. How you lose forty pounds

459
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 7: you're on a strict diet of blow?

460
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 6: Oh.

461
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 4: I was about to say, only you don't want either

462
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 4: one of them. I mean, you lose forty pounds in

463
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 4: that length of time you on crack or zempic. So

464
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 4: that's the new thing nowhe toushe.

465
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: You're right about that bro.

466
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 5: Out in time.

467
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 3: Man.

468
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 7: I would look in the mirror and I didn't see

469
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 7: myself any different than when I was in Cleveland, really

470
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 7: until I stepped on a scale at the Cosmopolitan Hotel

471
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 7: in Las Vegas. I didn't realize I lost forty pounds

472
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 7: wow at all And people were hitting me up like this,

473
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 7: And I remember these pictures came out and I was like, damn,

474
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 7: what am I doing?

475
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 5: Whatever? We'll figure that out later.

476
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: Let's go again, let's go bre So.

477
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: As anapolete, you're bear competitive when you when you when

478
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: you do drugs, do you still have that competitive nature

479
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 4: like when you with your boy and you're like, sh man,

480
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 4: I ain't been to let you one up me.

481
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: You can't.

482
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 7: I'm a tank when it comes to the party. I

483
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 7: mean I could party hang with the best of them. Like,

484
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 7: I ain't saying that to brag. It's not something to

485
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 7: really see, but it's truth and glorify.

486
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 5: But it's true.

487
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 7: You put somebody in my in your that you think

488
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 7: in your life can really go that distance with the

489
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 7: Henny or with them, with the drugs or whatever you want.

490
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go twelve rounds, would you?

491
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Johnny, you a small man, bro.

492
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 5: I'm a little thick. I guess I'll never forget.

493
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 7: Probably about week thirteen or fourteen of the season, I'm

494
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 7: walking out of coach Petton's office or I'm upstairs in

495
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 7: the where the coach's offices are in Cleveland, and I

496
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 7: walked by Jimmy O'Neill's office and he's like, hey, Johnny,

497
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 7: come in here for a sec. I'm like, oh, it's

498
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 7: our defensive coordinator. I'm like, what's up, coach, And I'm

499
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 7: chill with everybody like I'm a that's just how I am.

500
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 7: And he's like he's sitting back at his desk, d

501
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 7: of got his foot up, and he goes, you know,

502
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 7: we'd be a really good football player, if you got

503
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 7: your head out of your ass. And I'm like so

504
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 7: caught off guard. Now this confidence that I'm building is

505
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 7: immediately just I don't know if he meant in away

506
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 7: or just like you know, you're two and twelve and

507
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 7: your team is struggling and you're like, you know, looking

508
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 7: the ways, the or whatever it was.

509
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 5: But this happened.

510
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 7: And when I left that that office and I went

511
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 7: back down to the quarterback room, I was white as

512
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 7: a ghost, so white that Josh McCown looked at me

513
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 7: just like you are and was like, what happened? And

514
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 7: I'm like stuttering through this story, and Josh McCown gets

515
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 7: up out of his seat and walks straight up to

516
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 7: that fucking office. Now what was said, I don't exactly

517
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 7: know what it is. But when he came back in

518
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 7: that room, he was pissed. He said, you don't do

519
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 7: that in this league with the young guy and somebody

520
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 7: like you just don't. You can't break his gump, break

521
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 7: me in half. And from there I was broken. I

522
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 7: ain't give a fuck. I ain't care about that team.

523
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 7: I didn't care about that what my role was, and

524
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 7: there's no excuse all of these things led up to

525
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 7: be the perfect failure, and at the end of the

526
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 7: day it's on my shoulders. But when you're starting to

527
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 7: get a little momentum and you get broken like that,

528
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 7: that's when the running to Vegas happened, and me missing

529
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 7: the last game of the season, that's when the wig

530
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 7: store he comes out. And when I'm really like running

531
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 7: two three weeks after this, when this happened, I go

532
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 7: straight home. I go straight to my basement. I get

533
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 7: the biggest bottle of Hennessy out of the bottom of

534
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 7: the drawer, and now I'm sitting in the basement. I'm

535
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 7: listening to the future every second. Every day, I'm partying by

536
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 7: myself just to try and like get out of this

537
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 7: reality of a situation that I'm living in with a

538
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 7: head coach that wants nothing to do with me, with

539
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 7: the DC who's saying if I get my head out

540
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 7: of my ass, we'll have a chance. Just this whole

541
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 7: perfect storm of just like fuck this. And when that happened,

542
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 7: I was done.

543
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: What was your relationship with Like with Josh Gordon, you

544
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: have a guy and here we know he's had his issues,

545
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: his struggles, very similar to what you're sharing with us.

546
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: Right now, What was your relationship with Josh Great?

547
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 7: I saw a side of Josh that the rest of

548
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 7: the world didn't get to see. I saw a guy

549
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 7: that was from that trap, that from that bad neighborhood

550
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 7: growing up, who had beat the odds to be able

551
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 7: to get there. One of the most physically talented specimens

552
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 7: that you'll ever see on the football field. He struggled

553
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 7: with a lot of the same things that I struggle with.

554
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 7: And I tried my best throughout those times to be

555
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 7: a better influence around Josh than a lot of other

556
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 7: people were, because a lot of his boys didn't give

557
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 7: a shit at that point in time. And you know,

558
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 7: should I have done things differently in our relationship to

559
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 7: not you know, sway him certain ways, because I think

560
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 7: I definitely had to do this.

561
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: We didn't do drugs together.

562
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 3: You didn't do drugs.

563
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: We didn't do drugs together. He would.

564
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 7: He loved the weed man, He loved it, and when

565
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 7: he would come over to my apartment, all he ever

566
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 7: wanted to do was roll it and put it on

567
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 7: the counter. He just wanted to be included on the

568
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 7: whole thing, which is the way his mind kind of worked.

569
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 7: But he never smoked around me. He never I mean,

570
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 7: we went on trips together. We went to Aspen, we

571
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 7: went everywhere. Like JG is my dog to the core

572
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 7: and funny your ass. And just spoke to him yesterday

573
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 7: and he sounds like he's in the best place that

574
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 7: I've seen him in years. And it takes time and

575
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 7: getting away from it, and for me and him, we're

576
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 7: talking about golf now, and golf is kind of like

577
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 7: an avenue that I never thought me and me and

578
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 7: JG would be able to like talk about golf, go play,

579
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 7: and like, golf is really shifted my mindset and being

580
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 7: able to still continuously give me competition. But as much

581
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 7: as it is against other people, when you're playing golf

582
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 7: is always about yourself and battling yourself six inches between

583
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 7: your ears and then you know, getting in a good

584
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 7: headspace to go up and hit a good shot.

585
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: John, I want to get you out of here. You

586
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: mentioned that once you left Cleveland that you contemplated suicide

587
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: and you spent all your money. Clearly that's the lowest

588
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: point of your life. Was it a culmination of I'm

589
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: not where I thought it would be. As far as

590
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 4: in the NFL, you're in the NFL. But you're not playing,

591
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: and you're not you feel you're not getting the support

592
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 4: that you need or deserves in order for Johnny to

593
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: be Johnny, because you just sometimes you need somebody, just

594
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 4: a little support. You need somebody to say, Johnny, hey, bro,

595
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: you could do this. Pat you on the back instead

596
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 4: of kicking the butt all the times?

597
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: When did you know?

598
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: So what happened? When you're contemplating taking your own life,

599
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 4: it's different.

600
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 7: It's not that I don't have the support. It's not

601
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 7: that I don't have the team, because at that point

602
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 7: in time, I had every single person you could ever

603
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 7: think trying to reach out and I'm just blocking people

604
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 7: at every single turn. And I think for me, it

605
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 7: was something I didn't find out until I went to

606
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 7: play in Canada again. I remember having this feeling in

607
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 7: Cleveland that I didn't love football. Okay, but it was

608
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 7: a feeling. And when I didn't play for a while

609
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 7: and I'm out of the league and I'm trying to

610
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 7: get back in I end up going to Canada, and

611
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 7: when I walked into that locker room for the first

612
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 7: time and walked out on a practice football field, every

613
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 7: single feeling that I had felt in that Cleveland locker

614
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 7: room came back to me in that Canadian locker room,

615
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 7: and I knew right then and there that I didn't truly,

616
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 7: truly love this game to the point of where I

617
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 7: need to do what I need to do to be successful.

618
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 7: So the suicide thing comes in when you look at

619
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 7: life and.

620
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 5: You say.

621
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 7: I fucked up the biggest golden opportunity that you could

622
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 7: ever imagined. And this is where I think whenever you

623
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 7: said what you said about the Fan Control Football League,

624
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 7: it is sad, Shannon.

625
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: What you said on that day is exactly right.

626
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 7: It is sad to watch a guy who had all

627
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 7: the potential in the world, all the opportunity, all the resources.

628
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: And team around him, and he still goes fuck that.

629
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 7: But what if I told you today that I don't

630
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 7: think that I loved when I was doing enough to

631
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 7: ever get into the mix of doing it the right way.

632
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 7: I went through that period with Josh McCowan where we

633
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 7: did it, but like it never was like over the

634
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 7: tip and I'm not in the gym, I'm not grinding,

635
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 7: I'm not doing the things that I did back in

636
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 7: the day that made me great. So now I realize

637
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 7: that I didn't love the game of football like that.

638
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 7: I just happened to be immensely talented at it. I

639
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 7: happen to have great teammates around me, great coaches, great

640
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 7: perfect storm to be able to get me to walk

641
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 7: across that hall at Radio City Music Hall, walk across

642
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 7: that stage. So that feeling came back in Canada, I

643
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 7: realize I don't love the game. And then when the

644
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 7: game's gone from you, there's a huge transition, and every

645
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 7: guy will tell you what the transition is to figuring

646
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 7: out your identity and who you are as a person.

647
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 7: And I truly feel like from two thousand and seventeen

648
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: on that's seven years that that's what I've been doing.

649
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 7: And my mission has been to try and stay away,

650
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 7: get a little bit of this hype off me, and

651
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 7: just live and find out about life. To be a

652
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 7: great uncle, to be a great brother, to be a

653
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 7: great son, To be a great role model for Texas

654
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 7: A and M. To be a great alumni, you know,

655
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 7: a leader, To be a great resource for my guys

656
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 7: who play at Texas A and M. And these are

657
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 7: all things that I'm trying to do and moving forward

658
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 7: that I've completely neglected in the past.

659
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: If I can say, Johnny, you could go back, what

660
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: would probably be one of the two things that you

661
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: wish you could do.

662
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 7: If I could go back to a certain point in time,

663
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 7: I would drop myself right after that in the locker

664
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 7: room of the Oklahoma game in the Cotton Bowl, knowing

665
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 7: what I know now, I would have known how to

666
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 7: handle myself. I would have known how important and imperative

667
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 7: it is to be a better teammate than just numbers

668
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 7: on a field on Saturday.

669
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: There's something to be.

670
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 7: Said about how your guys ride for you when you're

671
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 7: doing the right things in the building. And that twenty

672
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 7: thirteen year for us at Texas A and M, a

673
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 7: lot of internal problems were happening because their leader is distracted.

674
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 7: Their horse that makes this whole carriage go is fucked up.

675
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 7: And the shame that I have for letting guys down

676
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: like Cedric a Boy and like Jake Matthews and Mike

677
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 7: Evans is the same shame that I carried with me

678
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 7: to this day about letting down Joe Thomas is a

679
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 7: guy who's in the end of his Hall of Fame

680
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 7: career and is looking for somebody to come in and

681
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 7: lead this team and then you get in me.

682
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: It's tough. You know, it's embarrassing.

683
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 7: It's embarrassing to have been the guy that have let

684
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 7: down some overall really great athletes of my time and

685
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 7: in my generation. Something I carry hopefully with my head

686
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 7: high right now. But at the same time, internally, I

687
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 7: know it eats me alive because they did more for

688
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 7: me than I gave.

689
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: In returned to them.

690
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 7: And what a shallow kind of selfish way of life

691
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 7: that I was living at that point in time. And

692
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 7: I have a lot of regret, Like I regret wasting

693
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 7: a couple of Joe Thomas's last year is in Cleveland.

694
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 7: I regret disrespecting Lebron and not making that's making sure

695
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 7: what it meant to me, showing him that I give

696
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 7: a fuck enough to just do what's right, to listen

697
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 7: to mav and listen to the.

698
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 5: Team they built around me.

699
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 7: You know, it focks me up that I messed up

700
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 7: our second year at Texas A and M and we

701
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 7: went seven and four or whatever, because that was our

702
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 7: chance to win a national time him off the game

703
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 7: against had a cool game against Dude one that was

704
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 7: like a legendary kind of tail on it but like

705
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 7: I almost wish to this day that we lost that

706
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 7: game because I would have came back so us having

707
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 7: that legendary run against a Bowl game.

708
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: That's kind of like.

709
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 7: I kind of wish we would have lost, because then

710
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 7: I would have came back with a vengeance and I

711
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 7: probably wouldn't have got drafted because I would have gotten

712
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: in trouble. Right, But it doesn't sit right with me

713
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 7: certain things, And those are three things how I wasted

714
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 7: my twenty thirteen season, How I treated the legends in

715
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 7: that building in Cleveland, and how I treated Lebron in Math.

716
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 7: And you know, from there, I can even take it

717
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 7: a step further and say, in twenty sixteen, I don't

718
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 7: think I treated Drake the way that I should have

719
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 7: with representing the clothes that I was wearing and his

720
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 7: OVO brand and his label and everything. You know, at

721
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 7: that point in time, I was so selfish that I

722
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 7: was dragging everybody that was tied to me through the mud.

723
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: Now it's regret. I'm not harboring on this in this

724
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: in any kind of way.

725
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 7: I'm just calling it exactly what it is in the

726
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 7: way that I feel about it. And you know, I

727
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 7: owe those people apology and hopefully one day down the line,

728
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 7: I'll be able to have the opportunity as a man

729
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 7: to be able to look him in the eye and

730
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 7: be able.

731
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: To do that.

732
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: As we see it here today, how is Johnny Manzail doing?

733
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 5: Probably the happiest I've ever been in my life.

734
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 7: And I think I went through a period of time

735
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 7: after the documentary came out where I maybe acted a

736
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 7: little bit like I did in the past, and it's

737
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 7: easy to let ego and fame and stuff kind of

738
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 7: creep back in. And what I've done now since really

739
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 7: you know, December ish, you know, it's new three months,

740
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 7: but I've insulated myself in a way with a team

741
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 7: that I can trust, people that I love that are

742
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 7: doing nothing but looking out for my best wishes, best regards.

743
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 7: They know me, They're not letting me cheat, They're holding

744
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 7: me accountable. And it's not going to happen overnight. It

745
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 7: is going to be a slow, gradual process to get

746
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 7: to who I want to be as a man. But

747
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 7: in my opinion, sitting here today with you and join

748
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 7: the hell out of this conversation, so I feel like

749
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 7: I'm on the right path to where I need to go.

750
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 7: And as Johnny Manziel, not as Johnny Football.

751
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: You once married and this is the last one you

752
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: were once married. Could you see yourself being married again?

753
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: Or is there someone in Johnny Manzil's life that's keeping

754
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: Johnny grounded?

755
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 5: Nope, it is my friends right now, my family.

756
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 7: No, it is my two nieces with a third one

757
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 7: on the way that I talk to every single day

758
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 7: on FaceTime. That are really my reason why I'm still here,

759
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 7: And a huge reason of my success is based off

760
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 7: my sister and my mother and my father, and my

761
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 7: true core friends and my team I have around me.

762
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 7: So love will calm when it comes, But for right now,

763
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 7: I'm focused on getting a bag, taking care of my money,

764
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 7: and getting back to where I need to be, being

765
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 7: the best brother, being the best uncle, and being there

766
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 7: for my family and my university and the way I

767
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 7: need to be to make people proud that I want

768
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 7: to make proud. I don't want to continuously keep letting

769
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 7: people down when I feel like I'm destined for bigger,

770
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 7: greater things than that in life.

771
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: I am so proud that you're sitting here today and

772
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: you found your reason to live.

773
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: It was me.

774
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 8: Kat Williams sitting next to each other in a little

775
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 8: bitty room, and he was like, man, come on in,

776
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 8: we got this because Tiny Lister didn't want to do

777
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 8: my good friend.

778
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, God bless his soul.

779
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 8: Tiny Listen didn't want to do the third one, and

780
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 8: they said we got a new character, a guy named Damon.

781
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 8: The whole day I was like, and see, you got

782
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 8: to understand too. I had none to lose, Like when

783
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 8: I see nothing to lose. I came in there like

784
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 8: Craig and day day, just the niggas I want to see,

785
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 8: you know, I had nothing to I went back to

786
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 8: Flint on them. I was like, this is where I

787
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 8: came to. These are the cats I knew. And I

788
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 8: came in there man and Offsea Cube.

789
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 9: Everybody's like oh and then Cat came in and just

790
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 9: the audition and they said you in, you in, and

791
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 9: Friday after next I listen.

792
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 8: I saw Cue probably about a month ago, and I

793
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 8: walked up to him. Man, I said, dude, thank you,

794
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 8: thank you. So you have no idea how many careers

795
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 8: you started just by giving us that shot. A lot

796
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 8: of people never ever really get props. What props is?

797
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: Do you know?

798
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 8: Because they're like, well, I didn't get that much money,

799
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 8: but dude, that was my start.

800
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: Listen.

801
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 8: I was, man, I was just thankful. I was walking

802
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 8: around and listen and what was so crazy as me

803
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 8: and Kat. Kat was home at the time, so Cat

804
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 8: was living in his trailer and me and Cat said, hey, Man,

805
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 8: and I remember talking to Cat. I said, Cap, I said,

806
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 8: we never get another opportunity. We got to make sure

807
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 8: they remember us, I said, because we did two new

808
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 8: cats in this whole thing. They know everybody else, right,

809
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 8: it's me and you. And remember, man, I was not

810
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 8: gonna let what happened in my football career happened to

811
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 8: my entertainment career.

812
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: Man, I'm listening that you tell the story Tea, and

813
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: the way you're telling the story. Football never gave you

814
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: the high that what you got by just doing that exactly.

815
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 8: I knew I was in my destiny when I say

816
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 8: this is what I'm saying, I found my destiny.

817
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: I was gone.

818
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 8: People. When people see that scene and Friday after the

819
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 8: next look, you turned the sound down, the airt the comedy. Right,

820
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 8: we was crying, right, we were deep. They were so

821
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 8: in it.

822
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: He was crying. I was crying.

823
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 8: People were standing by the monitors like, what are we

824
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 8: looking at right now? Because I was so going in

825
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 8: and I said, this is where and then it was

826
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 8: so wild because I didn't even want money anymore. I said,

827
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 8: I don't want that feeling again, you know, you know

828
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 8: what I mean. It's too because you could talk about

829
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 8: athletes and money and all that stuff, but there's a

830
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 8: point when I'm sure when you just catching and doing

831
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 8: everything right, you want to you want to chase that again.

832
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 8: They call it the zone, they call it. It's just

833
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 8: blow whatever that is. And let me tell you, you know,

834
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 8: when I hit that blow again when I was doing

835
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 8: White Chicks, that movie White Chicks, everything I said, just blow.

836
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Friday next White Chicks came off of.

837
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 8: It came after that because again you're talking about the

838
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 8: whole the black Hollywood is very small, and they saw

839
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 8: it once Friday after next hit. People were like this dude,

840
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 8: And so what was so great is Keenan Ivy Williams

841
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 8: was like, hey man, we gotta get this dude to shot,

842
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, because they're like, man, we

843
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 8: want some of that on us. And it kept all

844
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 8: my business shinning in this town has been repeat business.

845
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 8: I mean, the reason I was with all these Sandlor movies.

846
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 8: Adam Sandler called me. But the thing is when I

847
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 8: did Longest Yard, which was my revenge on the NFL,

848
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 8: me and Michael Irvin, the whole movie, I was like,

849
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 8: this is the one everybody gonna remember, like good God,

850
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 8: Like who.

851
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: Gets that right?

852
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

853
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 8: And I remember Chris Rock was like, hey, man, he's

854
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 8: on the movie Longest y'all. He said, dude, you're killing

855
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 8: I got something for you. I said, what is it?

856
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 8: He say, I don't worry, aboudy, I got.

857
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: Something for you.

858
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 5: I go home.

859
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 8: The script for Everybody Hates Chris. It's literally on my doorstep.

860
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 8: I open that up. He's like, I want you to

861
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 8: play my dad because he saw me and my wife

862
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 8: and my two kids out there all in Santa Fe,

863
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 8: New Mexico when we were filming Longest y'are. He was watching.

864
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 8: And that's the thing on other people. You gotta remember,

865
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: everybody is watching it. Everybody is watching. And so then

866
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 8: I played Chris's dad, and everybody hate Chris for four

867
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 8: years straight.

868
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: This man.

869
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 8: When I look at my life, man, I just think,

870
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 8: I just thank God for every opportunity. And now this

871
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 8: is another thing because I now reached the point because

872
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 8: I played with all these guys and they're going now

873
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 8: I'm losing actors. Man Andre Bauer passed away last week,

874
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 8: and he took me under his wing.

875
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: Man.

876
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 8: You talk about one of the best actors of our generation,

877
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 8: I mean Juliard Trade, absolutely incredible Emmy Award winning dramatic

878
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 8: beast Brooklyn nine nine, who was able to come and

879
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 8: flip it to a comedy like that.

880
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, what is the secret? And

881
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: he never this is nothing. He was.

882
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 8: He was with like a super all pro who could

883
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 8: have looked down on all of us but decided he

884
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 8: was just gonna pull us all up with him sixty

885
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 8: one years old. He was like my big brother. I

886
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 8: look at guys that are dying, well, I look at

887
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 8: Michael Clark, Duncan's gone, tiny listen gone, Lass Reddick gone,

888
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 8: and I'm like, tried Wick Bozeman gone. We did a

889
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 8: movie draft day together, okay, And I'm going, man, you

890
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 8: don't have forever, you don't. You gotta go for it.

891
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 8: You got to get what you got, what you are

892
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 8: come to get now, and you can't waste time. You

893
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 8: can't treat it like well, whatever tomorrow because I seen

894
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 8: it in the NFL and everybody thought, and this is

895
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 8: the thing everybody had determine, certain people that already won,

896
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 8: like I won life, you won, you know, people say,

897
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 8: hey won the internet.

898
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: Whatever.

899
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 5: It ain't never over it.

900
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 8: It's never how you start, it's how you finish, right,

901
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 8: And let me tell you when I'm done. And I'll

902
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 8: be honest with you, man, I'm just getting started. I truly,

903
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 8: truly feel I have the same energy that I had

904
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 8: when I first started. I'm really thankful to be sitting

905
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 8: here with you right now. But I admire you for it.

906
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 8: But just your transition, you know what I mean, And

907
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 8: the energy that you bring, your passion is palpable. And

908
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 8: I'm the same way. I'm one hundred percent passion. That's

909
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 8: all I am.

910
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

911
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 8: I don't know no other way. I have no other way.

912
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 8: I'll do everything like I'm getting a million dollars.

913
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: When when you sat down for the for the you

914
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: sat down for the audition to read with Cat, did

915
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: you know Cat prior to that?

916
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: Nope, not at all. And you guys became pretty cool.

917
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 8: At we became amazing friends. And what's so crazy? I

918
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 8: used to watch him because I was because we you know,

919
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 8: remember a movie, when you shoot a movie, then you

920
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 8: got to wait a year and a half for it

921
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 8: to come out, correct, So.

922
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: You just wait.

923
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 8: Like people, You're like, man, I got this thing coming,

924
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 8: They're like, yeah, right, whatever, And you know what's so funny.

925
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 8: After Friday, the next I had to go back to

926
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 8: a security. I had to go back because I didn't

927
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 8: have nothing else to turn to. But I knew it

928
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 8: was coming, and well, it was so crazy. I was

929
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 8: doing commercials and different things, but I would go watch

930
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 8: kat Williams at the Hollywood Park casino.

931
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: He had his own.

932
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 8: Room and this man was the funniest man I ever seen,

933
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 8: which was crazy. And then I'll never forget when he

934
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 8: starts selling out the Universal Amphitheater and watching him blow up.

935
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 8: This is another thing too, to watch people all. It's

936
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 8: funny because I see kids that's been on set and

937
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 8: now they're superstars. Now, you know, like Tyler Ja's Williams

938
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 8: is now superstars. You know, I've watched people here. This

939
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 8: is that you never never know what's going to happen.

940
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 8: You know, you look at things and you go, oh

941
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 8: my god, this man was listen. One great example, we

942
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 8: were at the BT Awards and I saw this little

943
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 8: kid walking around with a little hat all and I

944
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 8: was like, hey, hey, I got his mixtape. I said,

945
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 8: Kendrick Kendrick. He said, you know who I am? It's

946
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 8: Kendrick lamar Brouh. I said, man, your mixtape, dude, Section

947
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: eighty is amazed. I said, you are the next I said,

948
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 8: we're back on Liten Kid. This is Kendrick she was.

949
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: He was like, you know who I am?

950
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: I said, I said, I love you.

951
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: I said, I think you are going to be the future.

952
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 8: And what's so crazy is that he called me a

953
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 8: few years later ended up doing a video with him

954
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 8: because he said, remember when you told me you knew

955
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 8: who I was. I remember this and told me I

956
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 8: was going to be I was gonna be doing something great.

957
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: Look at this man.

958
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 8: Look tell me he's not the best in the world

959
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 8: right now.

960
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: And I'm so proud.

961
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 8: And the thing is too, man, there's another thing I

962
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 8: had to learn, and that the NFL taught me that

963
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 8: I had to unlearned competing. I decided to never compete

964
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 8: with people. This was my problem because what they call

965
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 8: it sent of comparison right. When I'm looking at what

966
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 8: you got and comparing what I got, it's always gonna

967
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 8: be a problem. Yeah, always, because you always gonna come

968
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 8: up short. Yes, somebody always got more right and then

969
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 8: somebody always got less, but you always want more right.

970
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 8: And I realized, man, that creativity was the exact opposite competition.

971
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: If I'm being creative, I'm not competing.

972
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 8: So I decided, you know what, because everybody was like,

973
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 8: hey man, you gotta you know when you gotta be

974
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 8: like tiny, you gotta be this you got no, I

975
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 8: was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna be me.

976
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be me. And I was like, yeah, but

977
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 8: you kind of weird. I said, yeah, I am. That's

978
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 8: what made me you neque I am all right.

979
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: Listen, First of all, you.

980
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 8: Can't even It got to the point where we read

981
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 8: scripts now to that we want a Terry Crews type

982
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 8: because they know that's that's just me, right. And I

983
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 8: decided by just being creative, that was my ticket out

984
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 8: of that world of competition. Because this is the thing, man,

985
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 8: The league is always it's like, hey man, you versus

986
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 8: so and sothing. First of all, you got to fight

987
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 8: the people in your own locker room first before you

988
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 8: even go up against another team, you know what I mean.

989
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 8: And then you always being judged like, well you missed

990
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 8: the step and did you miss that?

991
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: But he didn't.

992
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 8: The coaches would never they will always tell you what

993
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 8: you messed up on, right, And then being black, we

994
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 8: would go into the locker room and if you hurt,

995
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 8: they like, mmm, you act like you don't want to play.

996
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 8: I'll say, hey, man, First of all, the white kids

997
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 8: get it hurt and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's hurt.

998
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 5: Right.

999
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 8: I've never ever treated they never ever treated any black

1000
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 8: guy I knew in the locker room like he was

1001
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 8: really hurt. Wow, Like he was trying to cut out

1002
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 8: on the game.

1003
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: So, in other words, you said, I gotta unlearned because

1004
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: you know, it's a it's a jungle mentality, because someone

1005
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: is literally trying to take food off your table, someone

1006
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: is trying to take a roof from over your kid

1007
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: in your family.

1008
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 3: Head to make sure they have one.

1009
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: But once you got into the entertainment space, like I'm

1010
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 4: not competing against him.

1011
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean what can I do? First of all,

1012
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 8: I didn't go to school that I didn't go to Julliard.

1013
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 8: You're telling you to a dude who ain't supposed to

1014
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 8: be here. Everything I'm getting ain't ain't I ain't supposed

1015
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 8: to have. So I'm already behind, you know what I mean.

1016
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 8: But then I realized, wait a minute. If I just

1017
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 8: bring what I bring, I'm ahead.

1018
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

1019
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 8: If I can, if I bring what only I bring

1020
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 8: to a project, because you can't do what I do.

1021
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 5: Right, you know what I mean?

1022
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 8: And this is one thing that the magic, and this

1023
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 8: is what I want to tell every young man is

1024
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 8: trying to transition out. That's the way it works for everything.

1025
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 8: You have something that no one else has, but it's

1026
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 8: shifting you to find it. You gotta find it, and

1027
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 8: don't you don't find it by comparing yourself to everybody else.

1028
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: Whatever you find up, I find out what you want

1029
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: to do.

1030
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 8: And this is when I had to make the hard

1031
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 8: realization that, man, maybe football wasn't.

1032
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 5: It wasn't it just.

1033
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: It wasn't for me.

1034
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 8: But it got me to where I am, and I'm

1035
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 8: very thankful for it. But let me say I love

1036
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 8: the game. In fact, I don't even have a team.

1037
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 8: I just love the players. Right sitting here with players

1038
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 8: talk about you know what we came through.

1039
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: It feels like a fraternity. Man.

1040
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 8: It feels like something we can we can therapize each other,

1041
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, because we all know it,

1042
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 8: we all seen it, and we all played those games together.

1043
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 8: I was there when they was like, ain't no cte

1044
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 8: sit out?

1045
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: You're just weak?

1046
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: Right, man? My head hurt, you know what I mean.

1047
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: I seeing double and They're like, man, look, you're just weak.

1048
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 8: I was there when it was telling everybody wasn't it

1049
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 8: wasn't real, right, you know.

1050
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. I'm like, No, this is real, man,

1051
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: this is real.

1052
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: You've been buying laying lately. How many properties have you purchased?

1053
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 4: And what would do? What's the meaning behind that?

1054
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 10: It's been my twelve I'm gonna like my twelve house

1055
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 10: a twelfth house now. But I always always said that

1056
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 10: I've learned that, you know, when it comes to income,

1057
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 10: I wanted to fit it somewhere in a way can grow,

1058
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 10: you know, so to just be I explurted and stuff

1059
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 10: like that. I think investments is really big, and I

1060
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 10: feel like real estate buying lant and stuff like that,

1061
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 10: it's one of the best investments in the world. You

1062
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. It's especially in Atlanta, Georgia. People

1063
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 10: move me there crazy, you know what I'm saying. So

1064
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 10: if you got any income, Man, I feel like real

1065
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 10: estate is it's been good. Man shot out to my

1066
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 10: my guy Gene Man, and you know it's been. He

1067
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 10: was the one that that set me up right when

1068
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 10: it came to it.

1069
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 6: Man.

1070
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 10: And we've been building a for a long time, you

1071
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. And we got a lot of

1072
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 10: great stuff in store. You know, we got a workshop

1073
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 10: coming up that I would love for people to be

1074
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 10: a part of. Men, if you're in Atlanta, Georgia, February

1075
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 10: seventeen eighteen, we're doing a workshop. You can go to

1076
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 10: my real estate page. There's be designs and you can

1077
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 10: get the information. So want to, you know, give people

1078
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 10: learned about real estate. You know what I'm saying, How

1079
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 10: to build, you know, how to get money, how to

1080
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 10: find the right money to invest, you know how to

1081
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 10: get that right loan, you know stuff like that.

1082
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 6: Man.

1083
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you've seen very very frugal with your money,

1084
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: very wise.

1085
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: But everybody's made a dumb purchase. What was your dumb purchase?

1086
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: My dumb purchase purchase.

1087
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 10: I ain't gonna say it's dumb, but I got a

1088
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 10: Porsche so crazy. I ain't done, but I had to

1089
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 10: get that, mother, I would have got that porch, no

1090
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 10: level turbo.

1091
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: I had to get that. Yeah, and I like cars.

1092
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 6: I love fast cars, right, yeah?

1093
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: So do you do you do you have? I mean,

1094
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 3: are you like old school.

1095
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 10: Cars or got foray, got one of those? I got

1096
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 10: a haircat. I'm a haircap truck. I got a bens

1097
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 10: Benz truck.

1098
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: What else I got?

1099
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1100
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: I said, yeah, but I love.

1101
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 10: Cars though, Like if I make crazy persons, it'll be

1102
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 10: called car.

1103
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: You're not that big of a jewelry guy, splurged guy in.

1104
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 10: Jewel Nah, and my homeboy beginning on me all the

1105
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 10: time I got jury.

1106
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 6: He want me to wear all on the on stage.

1107
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 6: He like, boy with me. What a whole box? So

1108
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 6: that's if I down Detroit. But you're like, what a

1109
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 6: whole box?

1110
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: What's your biggest purchase outside of real estate?

1111
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 10: My biggest purchase outside of real estate? I mean I

1112
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 10: I I own two eighteen wheeler trucks. Two Okay, yeah,

1113
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 10: I got that too.

1114
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: So you have, like, do you have a trucking company?

1115
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: Or just trying to build a truck, a truck serve.

1116
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been a truck l yah. Yeah, I got

1117
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 6: that too.

1118
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: What you call?

1119
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 8: Uh?

1120
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 10: Well, I got to invest with FedEx. Okay, yeah, so

1121
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 10: I got I'm connected with them. So I got to

1122
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 10: my road, I got, I got my four drivers. Now

1123
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 10: they switch out. Uh but yeah, that's that's another investment

1124
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 10: that I got as well. That's that's been doing.

1125
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 6: Pretty good for me. But I would say other crazy

1126
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 6: persons too. Of course, durry jury is a thing that

1127
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 6: you know. But now you know, I can give me

1128
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 6: a nice little watch and just with me a nice

1129
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 6: little chain and shine a little bit.

1130
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: You seem really simplistic when it comes to jeury.

1131
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm cool. I ain't gotta come in with a

1132
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 6: big chain on, right, You feel me like I could

1133
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: do it?

1134
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: And I may do it.

1135
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 6: Sometimes I pop out to the club and shine a

1136
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 6: little bit.

1137
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1138
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 10: And then like I said, my boys have been on

1139
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 10: all on. I may bet on two on and I

1140
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 10: may put they real bust down on and I you know,

1141
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 10: I have to do what I gotta do. Yeah, because boy,

1142
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 10: when it shine and shine and what I'm good?

1143
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 6: Look at you do?

1144
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: You mentioned earlier that you have. You started your own

1145
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: production company. What have you learned most about the business

1146
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: of comedy?

1147
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 6: The business of comedy, I would say it's serious.

1148
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 10: But I think a lot of people out there, I

1149
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 10: think they should, of course have their own business when

1150
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 10: it comes to this man, because like I said, you

1151
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 10: never know when you would not get an opportunity. And

1152
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 10: me have my own production company. It allows me to

1153
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 10: continue to work whenever I want to, you know, work.

1154
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 10: I ain't gotta wait on Hollywood to give me a

1155
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 10: movie or whatever it is. You know, I a And

1156
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 10: also I've learned that you know, even with that, it

1157
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 10: takes time for me to to to connect and and

1158
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 10: get my.

1159
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 6: Stuff to that level. You know what I'm saying.

1160
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 10: Sometimes you just gotta play the game right for your

1161
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 10: stuff to get there. You gotta play the long game,

1162
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. Of course, one day Daze

1163
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 10: Banks Production will be a company that would be big,

1164
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 10: But like I said, it take time. I got plenty

1165
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 10: of ideas of stuff that we already presenting to different.

1166
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 6: Companies that you know that we wanna uh partnership with.

1167
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 10: You know that we have meeting with with TV shows,

1168
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 10: feature films, you know, stuff like that, and it's always

1169
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 10: presented Dze Banks Productions want to present you guys this

1170
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 10: script for this, this treatment for this, and you know,

1171
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 10: like I said, I got my team that always with

1172
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 10: me when it come to me, you know, being in

1173
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 10: these meetings or whatever it is. But like I said,

1174
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 10: I always had a goal at you know, I and

1175
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 10: a lot of stuff that I've shot, and already it's

1176
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 10: a uh it, it's like a approven like the numbers

1177
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 10: already there. Let people know it already worked. The TV

1178
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 10: show I want to do is already already shot. It

1179
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 10: that the sitcom I already do is already that the

1180
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 10: show film I wanted to turn it to a feature

1181
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 10: them the numbers already there. I'm telling you it works already.

1182
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 10: So it's like it's just up to that company whatever

1183
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 10: it is, to actually believe in it because I know,

1184
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 10: I know people say all the time, just continue to

1185
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 10: do it on yourself, put it out yourself, whatever it is.

1186
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 10: But man, hey man, for me, my goal is to

1187
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 10: have my show on net for I want to be big.

1188
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 10: I want to be with the lines. I want to

1189
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 10: be with the paramounts. I want to have my stuff

1190
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 10: connect to those people. You know what I'm saying, that's

1191
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 10: what I want to do.

1192
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, why was it so important for you to believe

1193
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: and invest in Daisy?

1194
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 6: I think that's what at the time I didn't know,

1195
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 6: but I think that's what God wanted me to do.

1196
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 6: I think that what God wanted me.

1197
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 10: But God wanted me to believe myself first and to

1198
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 10: know that you can still be successful with yourself then

1199
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 10: having to worry about other people.

1200
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 6: Right, you can have your goals whatever it is, but

1201
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: you can still be successful, right. You know what I'm saying. So,

1202
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 6: like I said, in this in this world is it

1203
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 6: is industry.

1204
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 10: A lot of people wait on opportunities, man, you know

1205
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 10: we see it all the time. Like just imagine how

1206
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 10: to write a strike here? Man, A lot of a

1207
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 10: lot of actors wasn't working. You know what I'm saying.

1208
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 10: It was how of work were making the income they wanted?

1209
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, Thank God, they you know,

1210
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 10: they got what they you know, they finally got you

1211
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 10: know what they deserve if you know. But I just

1212
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 10: think that's the leadway when you want to do your

1213
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 10: own thing, when you want to you want to build

1214
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 10: up your own family, you want to you know, get

1215
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 10: that going.

1216
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 6: I think that's it's it's something up to you what

1217
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 6: you want to do.

1218
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 10: I'm just one of the guy Like I'm a hustler, man,

1219
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 10: I don't want to sit and wait, you know. I

1220
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 10: like to grind, you know what I'm saying. So I

1221
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 10: know this is gonna pay off one day. It's gonna

1222
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 10: they gonna tap in.

1223
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: So have you, uh if any or how many have

1224
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: you gone on some additions? Audition? Yeah?

1225
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 10: Oh tons that I said, audition so many things. I

1226
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 10: don't got close to a lot of different movies man

1227
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 10: that I was number up against the lead.

1228
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I've been up close to

1229
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 6: a lot of guys. You know what I'm saying.

1230
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 10: Thank God, I said, I just booked a major fem

1231
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 10: a twenty four firm that I'll be shooting soon. We

1232
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 10: stay waiting on the dates to get for that. I

1233
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 10: can't wait for people to see that. But that is

1234
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 10: a step that I feel like that's gonna open up

1235
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 10: doors for me as well. Like I said, I'm also

1236
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 10: in and pitch meetings with other movies that i'm the

1237
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 10: lead of, you know, TV shows that i'm the lead of.

1238
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 10: You know, that people don't know right now, you know

1239
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 10: what I'm saying. But yeah, people don't see the other

1240
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 10: work that goes on, right you know what I'm saying.

1241
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 6: They just see what they see. But like I said,

1242
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 6: it takes time. It's a process. But like I said,

1243
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 6: this is the opportunity.

1244
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 10: Is this interview. Is I guarantee that this open up

1245
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 10: the door for sure for show for show? I think

1246
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 10: so exactly. That's what it's about.

1247
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: Has this audition?

1248
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 4: Have any audition you've gone on and you've turned down,

1249
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: Like damn, that should have taken that one.

1250
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been movies. Yeah, it been movies that.

1251
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, that I've seen I've turned down that gave other

1252
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 10: people opportunities.

1253
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1254
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 10: That And the only reason why I didn't accept it,

1255
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 10: Well one movie I didn't accept it was because I

1256
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 10: just felt like it wasn't right.

1257
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 6: It was just too much going on with it, you

1258
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.

1259
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 10: I was like, you know, and then they I think

1260
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 10: they wanted to be the at the time, it was

1261
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 10: like like they want to be the like counsel on

1262
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 10: show that a weekend that I had and I was like, nah,

1263
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 10: it's too late for that.

1264
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 6: I'm finna go. My show already sold out here, so

1265
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 6: I'm gona gone.

1266
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 10: I'm gonna gonna do this and whoever y'all get this

1267
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 10: opportunity to Hey man, it was just meant for them.

1268
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 10: I'll wait my chance to get mine, right, you know

1269
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 10: what I'm saying.

1270
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: I went.

1271
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 6: It was no pressure.

1272
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: So what have you learned about the auditions that you

1273
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: have going on?

1274
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 6: I've done well with all of them.

1275
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 10: It's just, uh, I feel like it's it's just up

1276
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 10: to the people deciding on who they want.

1277
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1278
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 10: That's okay too, And that's what I had to learn

1279
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 10: with my Actnic Koch, Dwayne Boyd and Todd. They used

1280
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 10: to always tell me all the time something it ain't

1281
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 10: it ain't you, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes they

1282
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 10: they may need a guy with a full beard. You know,

1283
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 10: you probably acted well, but we need a guy with

1284
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 10: a full beard.

1285
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: Or you know.

1286
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 10: You did great, but you sound southern, you know, or

1287
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 10: we need a person that could play a doctor instead

1288
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 10: of you know.

1289
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 6: It's just little stuff like that.

1290
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 10: I do my thing on an audition, you know what

1291
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 10: I'm saying. And I'm all about the finding the right project, right.

1292
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 10: I don't want to just be in no movie just

1293
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 10: to be in I Nah, man, Like that's what they

1294
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 10: don't make a legendary, you know what I'm saying.

1295
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 6: I feel like I said, let's go back to Chris Tucker.

1296
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 6: Friday was for him. I hear.

1297
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 10: You know, I'm trying to say the ohgus who audition

1298
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 10: for that? I know it was a guy that was

1299
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 10: supposed to play that role, but I feel like it

1300
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 10: wouldn't have maybe not been done, Like if christ Win

1301
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 10: a guy Mike els Day. They can't nobody be dayDay, correct,

1302
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. Just little stuff like that,

1303
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 10: those films was for them. You know what I'm saying.

1304
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 10: I just and that's what I want for myself. I

1305
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 10: want that feeling to be for me. You know, it's

1306
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 10: no rush for me to get just being something. That's

1307
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 10: the stuff that we're working on. It's it's around, it's around, Dizzy,

1308
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 10: it's around you know what what's gonna be good for me?

1309
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1310
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 3: Would you ever do a Tyler Perry movie?

1311
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 6: Man? I auditioned for Tyler Perry did a few times.

1312
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1313
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Speaker 10: I mean, if it's the right role, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 10: I you know, I ain't I ain't against work with

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Speaker 10: ty I think Tyler Doeger Tyler's least a legend.

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Speaker 3: Is there a role that you wouldn't play?

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Speaker 10: Uh, that I wouldn't play? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't

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Speaker 10: play it. Like I don't wanta do nothing outside of

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01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 10: what makes me feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I.

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: Remember where you don't want to dress up? What you

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01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: mean my dress on or wig on?

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Speaker 6: Uh? I ain't look bro I like, if necessary, I

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01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: just put it out. I mean, you do from my character.

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Speaker 10: I've done short films, but that ain't got I did that.

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Speaker 10: I did that because my grandmama loved it, like she

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 10: loved that character been my grandmoma.

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Speaker 6: Like I did that for her. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: That's Hey, I ain't worry about that. You know what

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01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And that character is based off her. You

1331
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So all that I don't care

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: about that. You know what I'm saying. But now I

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01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 6: ain't finished.

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Speaker 10: You ain't finna come to my dressing room and I

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 10: probably been playing this role and you say, hey, can

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Speaker 10: you put his own?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 3: How was it acting with Easter Ray and Regina Hall.

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Speaker 6: And little Uh.

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Speaker 8: I don't.

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Speaker 10: When I was on set, I seen Regina. I didn't

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Speaker 10: see I didn't see East of Yeah, I seen Regina,

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Speaker 10: So y'all didn't not really. I seen Will Packer too.

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Speaker 10: I ain't really have a you didn't have Yeah, I

1345
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 10: ain't really connect, you know I was.

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Speaker 6: My scene was quick. It was real quick.

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Speaker 4: So Easter Ray said Hollywood is scared and clueless after

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01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: her show was canceled. She said she also said black

1349
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 4: stories are less of a priority and they aren't a

1350
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Speaker 4: lot of smart execs and more. What's been your experience,

1351
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 4: your personal experience with Hollywood?

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Speaker 10: Well, that's crazy though, like the Black Show, because like

1353
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 10: what I'm presenting at black shows, and you know, I

1354
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 10: would say on these pictures, you know, we we we

1355
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 10: got these ideas that work. Like I said, we understand

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01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 10: the culture. I feel like Hollywood should really allow us

1357
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 10: to like we we got the numbers. We were showing y'all,

1358
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 10: this this shit work. You know what I'm saying, It works.

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Speaker 3: You know it works.

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 6: So it's like.

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01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 10: Let us like at least try, you know what I'm saying,

1362
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 10: Like at least try, and you know, of course y'all

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01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 10: got guys if y'all got rights or whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we can connect.

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01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 10: Let's bring it together and see how we can like

1366
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 10: make this really work, you know what I'm saying. And

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01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 10: understand who coming to the table like me being a

1368
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 10: part of the culture.

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Speaker 6: I got a fan base. These people want to see

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Speaker 6: me on that level.

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Speaker 10: This is what's gonna bring numbers to you guys platform,

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01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 10: because at the end of the day, it's a numbers game.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 10: Y'all trying to get y'all money, y'all money back or

1375
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 10: whatever it is, you know what I'm saying. So we

1376
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 10: got to think about stuff like that, you know, and

1377
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 10: we take it serious.

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Speaker 6: Yeah,