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Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Drip In the Great Episode two eighty five.
Speaker 2: A ton to do Today, A lot going on. Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick is the head coach of the North Carolina tar
Speaker 2: Heel football team. We are off a third straight winning week,
Speaker 2: well above five hundred in the Gambling Show eleven and four,
Speaker 2: the last three weeks, really feeling hitting our stride. Danny
Speaker 2: parkins Aragon ass you had a losing week, only one
Speaker 2: game behind him on the TV Picks, which had been
Speaker 2: so Here's how we do the Gambling Show. Every Thursday morning,
Speaker 2: I pick my five bets for the weekend. Sometimes there's
Speaker 2: a Thursday night football game involved in those. There might
Speaker 2: be one this week and then by Friday afternoon, with
Speaker 2: more injury information, more weather information, more time to marinate.
Speaker 2: Among those five, I pick my three favorite, and so
Speaker 2: the I'm fifty four percent ish on the five picks
Speaker 2: every week on this show, sixty one percent on the
Speaker 2: three picks that we do every Friday on First Things First.
Speaker 2: So that's going great a ton to do, so let's
Speaker 2: get right into it. Here's what missed the cut. The
Speaker 2: Bill's ownership group has added Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady
Speaker 2: and oh my demons, I'm gonna send you do not
Speaker 2: read this text on the air, Okay, but I am
Speaker 2: going to. You're gonna be able to tell from the
Speaker 2: initials who this text is too. And then read what
Speaker 2: I wrote, Read the very top what I wrote, I
Speaker 2: guess Sindra's screenshot, and then a couple replies later, here's
Speaker 2: why I might be getting involved in Obviously not the NFL,
Speaker 2: I don't have money like that, but with a sports
Speaker 2: ownership group. Might be being connected by dear friend. Again,
Speaker 2: I want to be a little cagey about it, but
Speaker 2: you saw that I got that response this morning. Now
Speaker 2: I sent the initial inquiry. I looked, I think October
Speaker 2: thirty first, but it's a busy man. I was reaching
Speaker 2: out too. I got the response this morning to it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. On the peloton working out is like I
Speaker 2: can connect you with the people, So that'd be that
Speaker 2: would be pretty sick, right, So we'll talk more about that.
Speaker 2: I apologize. I know that's annoying for the audience, but
Speaker 2: it'll hopefully there'll be a cool payoff in like six months.
Speaker 2: We can play this cli and be like, hey, remember
Speaker 2: that thing I was talking about, Well, this is what
Speaker 2: it was. Also, Xavier Legett is getting shamed for eating raccoons. Listen,
Speaker 2: Xavier leget is country and I'm not country. However, especially
Speaker 2: on your side of the family, Demons, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of country and so the so I don't I I
Speaker 2: don't think that is what'd you say?
Speaker 3: I said, I'm pretty sure I've had raccoon before. Like, way,
Speaker 3: wait you think so? Unless Grandaddy was lying to me,
Speaker 3: but well he.
Speaker 2: Might have been lying to you. I don't know, but dies,
Speaker 2: but certainly your bloodline has like there's like that. We
Speaker 2: don't have to go far into the generational background possible.
Speaker 2: I think it's right. I think it's on the board.
Speaker 2: I maybe your mother, certainly your grandparents, and so I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: if you're southern per like the Southern country folks, you're
Speaker 2: gonna eat. You know, Shannon talks about this all the time, like, so,
Speaker 2: I actually don't find that as odd as other people
Speaker 2: find it. And Aaron Rodgers some stupid alien thing. I
Speaker 2: don't really care about it. All right, let's get to
Speaker 2: the shocking news. And before we even get to it,
Speaker 2: I want to shout out Ali Connolly and Inside Carolina
Speaker 2: dot Com, who had this story nuts to Bolts days
Speaker 2: ahead of everyone. And I was a little annoyed yesterday
Speaker 2: because they had it a week ago that it was happening.
Speaker 2: They had it yesterday early in the day that it
Speaker 2: was oli two days ago, had you know, about the
Speaker 2: Bible and all of this, And then Schefter and Chris
Speaker 2: Lowe kind of parachute in and are like, oh, breaking news,
Speaker 2: things done. And I was like, these guys, these guys
Speaker 2: beat everyone on this story. And credit to them for
Speaker 2: beating everyone on this story. All right. The only reason
Speaker 2: I even really know who Ali Connelly is is we
Speaker 2: were asked last week about podcasts I listened to, and
Speaker 2: I said NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Ali Connolly, who
Speaker 2: I think is a British dude, has co hosted that
Speaker 2: show with Greg before, so I knew who he was.
Speaker 2: But regardless, all right, go ahead and give us the
Speaker 2: news and then we'll discuss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Belichick's head to you n C. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to take the bait on that. But do you
Speaker 3: think that there's any case where this turns out to
Speaker 3: be a good move?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I mean I think that if he gets
Speaker 2: to North Carolina the college football player, it greatly enhances
Speaker 2: his legacy. And I think that's on the board the
Speaker 2: I mean this year, two teams from the ACC made
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff in Clemson and SMU. And so
Speaker 2: college football's change now where it's no longer like championship
Speaker 2: or bust. It's really or BCS Bowl or bust. It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: can I make the twelve team playoff? Like Colorado had
Speaker 2: an awesome year, but had they made the playoff, it
Speaker 2: would have felt like they won a championship. That would
Speaker 2: have been their championship really, and so I think Belichick
Speaker 2: probably looked at what Prime did at Colorado and was
Speaker 2: like that was the worst team in college football, the worst,
Speaker 2: and he got him playoff adjacent in two years. North
Speaker 2: Carolina won six games this year, they had the number
Speaker 2: three pick of the draft year like they had Drake
Speaker 2: May went there, like, so they're not a blue blood
Speaker 2: football program, like they're a basketball program, but they're not
Speaker 2: the dregs. They're not Rutgers when Schiano took over. So
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a guaranteed disaster. I do think
Speaker 2: this Seth Wickersham article, and Seth is great, that involves
Speaker 2: massive spin zone from Belichick's people is ludicrous, So people
Speaker 2: should check out Seth Wickersham's article where he quotes a
Speaker 2: source close to Bill Belichick, who, again, this is rude
Speaker 2: of me, but I don't really care, and I used
Speaker 2: to actually do a podcast with this guy ages ago.
Speaker 2: But I would bet any amount of money that's sourced
Speaker 2: close to Bill Belichick is Michael Lombardi, who's never met
Speaker 2: a microphone he doesn't like and is now gonna be
Speaker 2: Belichick's GM at North Carolina. The sore close said that
Speaker 2: Bill is quote disgusted with what the NFL had become,
Speaker 2: and this is a big f you to the NFL. Okay,
Speaker 2: now we have to be honest and fair about what
Speaker 2: actually transpired here, and what transpired here is Belichick, after
Speaker 2: being left out in the cold for a hiring cycle,
Speaker 2: appears to have done the old high school maybe even
Speaker 2: junior high move, which is, hey, did you hear Sarah's
Speaker 2: gonna break up with you at lunch? And then you
Speaker 2: go find her in third period, like I break up
Speaker 2: with you. Oh no, no, no, I'm gonna move like that,
Speaker 2: like you didn't break up with me. I broke up
Speaker 2: with you. It's like no, but I was going no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I broke up with you. I'm dumbing you, I'm leaving.
Speaker 2: I don't like you. I think Bill Belichick had on
Speaker 2: pretty good authority. The NFL was gonna pass on him again,
Speaker 2: and by the way, I think that's a mistake. I
Speaker 2: think there are teams out there that would have done
Speaker 2: well to hire Bill Belichick. I don't think that he's
Speaker 2: I don't think every If I were the Bears, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't hire Belichick because I want a coach who can
Speaker 2: grow with Caleb for a decade, you know. So it's
Speaker 2: not a perfect fit everywhere, but if I were the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: I'd hire Belichick. They you know, a team that's already
Speaker 2: built that you know, has the quarterback in place, like
Speaker 2: so there are I think it's a mistake that no
Speaker 2: team wanted him, But I think it's very clear no
Speaker 2: team wanted him, and if any team wanted him, they
Speaker 2: only wanted him just as the coach. And no matter
Speaker 2: what Bill said and that those Falcons interviews, I he
Speaker 2: clearly is prioritizing being the czar of everything. And at
Speaker 2: North Carolina he's going to get to and he's just
Speaker 2: getting the band back together. He's bringing Mike Lombardi back.
Speaker 2: I assume Josh McDaniels could be involved, and he is
Speaker 2: going to be the grand Puba of all things football.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what's gonna happen here. And so it
Speaker 2: is a stunning and shocking turn of events. In that
Speaker 2: last year, we were discussing demons. Should the Eagles fire
Speaker 2: Sirianni just to be able to hire Belichick? And the
Speaker 2: Eagles were discussing that. Ownership was discussing that, and the
Speaker 2: we talked about if the Bills collapsed, should they fire
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott in order to be hired in order to
Speaker 2: hire Bill Belichick, and now he is taking the North
Speaker 2: Carolina job in order to I think, make sure he
Speaker 2: has a landing spot. One other piece on this before
Speaker 2: we get to the blackballing stuff. I know they just
Speaker 2: erased it, but I actually want you to ask me
Speaker 2: about that. But before we get to that, the idea that,
Speaker 2: oh Belichick always wanted to go back to college, folks,
Speaker 2: if he always wanted to go back to college, Alabama
Speaker 2: was open a year ago, his good friend Nick Saban
Speaker 2: was leaving. They didn't have a succession in place. That's
Speaker 2: why they went and got Calen de boor the idea
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't have just decided, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go to college and I'll just take over for my
Speaker 2: buddy Nick Saban. I think that's I think that's foolishness.
Speaker 2: But go ahead and ask me about the blackballing is
Speaker 2: too strong, but about that and we'll.
Speaker 3: Get Yeah, you said that the NFL, but I consider
Speaker 3: not giving Belichick a job again. But like, there's gonna
Speaker 3: be teams like the Giants, the Giants, the Raiders and
Speaker 3: obviously owned by Tom Brady. Why do you think that
Speaker 3: he would not be able to get a job with you.
Speaker 2: So I so I think that I really do wonder
Speaker 2: how much poison was spit in other owner's ears by
Speaker 2: Robert Craft, and I think that really damaged Bill. We
Speaker 2: know that Bill interviewed for one job last year, the
Speaker 2: Falcons job, and it would appear from the reporting I've
Speaker 2: read that Robert Craft kind of went out of his
Speaker 2: way to screw him on that that Robert Craft twice
Speaker 2: talked to Oh, what's the Falcons owner's name? Dude who
Speaker 2: owns Arthur Blank? Arthur twice talked to Arthur Blank and
Speaker 2: did not give rave reviews. Sidebar shout out Arthur Blank
Speaker 2: origin story when home Depot was first opening, in order
Speaker 2: to get customers are their Blanks stood in the parking
Speaker 2: lot with tons and tons of one dollar bills and
Speaker 2: would tell people, I'll give you a dollar if you
Speaker 2: just walk in my store just to see what it's like.
Speaker 2: I like those stories. That guy's like, I got a
Speaker 2: good product I gotta get I gotta get asses in
Speaker 2: the door. I'll just hand you. I'll just give you money.
Speaker 2: I have like I always in my brain, I separate
Speaker 2: owners into two groups. Built a business, got rich and
Speaker 2: inherited team from Dad, and I always assume like different
Speaker 2: levels of sophistication based on that. So like Robert Kraft
Speaker 2: built a business good for him. And again the guys
Speaker 2: who inherit, you know, inherited team from Dad, they might
Speaker 2: be sharp as well, but I don't assume it. Shod
Speaker 2: CON's origin story is one of my favorite. Shod Con
Speaker 2: worked for a company. No shod Con. Shot Con worked
Speaker 2: for a company that made bumpers like things on your
Speaker 2: car and went to the boss was like, hey, better
Speaker 2: way to do this. I figured it out on my
Speaker 2: own time, and the boss was like, shut up, get
Speaker 2: back to work. So he quit, started his own bumper
Speaker 2: company with his own idea, and now he makes all
Speaker 2: the bumpers like if you got if you have like
Speaker 2: a Toyota or Honda or something that his shotgun does it.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, that's super cool. So like, uh
Speaker 2: all right, now back to Sorry that was a sidebar.
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting. The So I do wonder
Speaker 2: how much Craft hurt Belichick in this, because Craft, clearly
Speaker 2: we know from that Patriots doc Angry with Bill Kraft
Speaker 2: thinks pretty clearly that on the Patriot Dynasty movie poster,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is the first name listed, but the second
Speaker 2: is his and not Bills that Robert Kraft and I
Speaker 2: don't buy that at all. Uh. And so I Bill
Speaker 2: was going to it would appear get shut out of
Speaker 2: this coaching search. So why the Giants thing? I think
Speaker 2: he's nervous that the Giants might not be making a
Speaker 2: head coaching change, and if they do, that is pardon me,
Speaker 2: full on rebuild like from the Studs the Raiders thing.
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't know that he was
Speaker 2: confident Tom would say let's hire him, or maybe it
Speaker 2: was that he didn't want to work for Tom, or
Speaker 2: maybe I don't I don't know. I don't know. There
Speaker 2: that's an odd dynamic that I don't really even want
Speaker 2: to speculate on. Also, it should be noted right that'd
Speaker 2: be brutal. That be brutal. And again I don't know
Speaker 2: their relationship, but if it's at all in question, could
Speaker 2: you imagine like you were this guy's if you're Belichick,
Speaker 2: you were Brady's boss for twenty years and then he
Speaker 2: gets to interview you and kind of rake you over
Speaker 2: the coals and then be like ah, denied, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound pleasant and so. And also, by the way,
Speaker 2: he should be noted Tom owns five percent of the Raiders,
Speaker 2: So I maybe the Raiders are like, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: give us all the input you have. And maybe the
Speaker 2: Raiders are like, okay, we'll take your suggestion. But he
Speaker 2: obviously doesn't have full control unless they just want him
Speaker 2: to have it. So it might just be Al Davis's kid,
Speaker 2: Mark Davis, you know who's making that decision. And maybe
Speaker 2: and by the way, maybe the Raiders are gonna keep
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce, Like I'm pre firing Antonio Pearce in my head,
Speaker 2: but he could keep the job. So Bill clearly didn't
Speaker 2: think he was getting a job. And I think that
Speaker 2: is I think that's really really fascinating. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go to some of these follow ups.
Speaker 3: Demanse Uh, So you were saying that Andy Reid comes
Speaker 3: out a winner and all this howl. So is he
Speaker 3: just running himself into the ground.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I Andy Reid's gonna end up with
Speaker 2: the wins record. So the wins record right now, Shula
Speaker 2: is at three forty seven, Belichick's at three point thirty
Speaker 2: three and never moving past that, Like that's locked, that's done.
Speaker 2: Andy's at two ninety six and that's playoffs and regular
Speaker 2: season combined, so he'll be at around three hundred at
Speaker 2: the end of this year. Is he gonna coach at
Speaker 2: least three more years?
Speaker 3: Will?
Speaker 2: He just signed a five year, one hundred million dollar
Speaker 2: new deal. He averages fifteen combined win year as since
Speaker 2: Mahomes has been there. So he'll run Belichick down in
Speaker 2: a little over maybe just two years or a little
Speaker 2: over two years. And he could run Shula down in
Speaker 2: a little over three years. And when we're talking greatest
Speaker 2: coach of all time, Shula currently has two things really
Speaker 2: in his favor, more wins undefeated season. Andy, I think,
Speaker 2: is going to have in his favor the most wins
Speaker 2: ever and first ever three peat. Right, Belichick's gonna have
Speaker 2: in his favor the six rings, which could be tough
Speaker 2: for Andy to catch. But Andy after this year might
Speaker 2: be at four with a three peat. And it's just
Speaker 2: the point that I was trying to make on TV
Speaker 2: was this. I think that right now, if you were
Speaker 2: to ask family feud style one hundred NFL fans, who's
Speaker 2: the greatest football NFL coach ever? I think Bill Belichick
Speaker 2: gets more than ninety of the votes. I think it's
Speaker 2: almost a unanimously held opinion. But if Andy runs him
Speaker 2: down and wins and or pulls off the three peat,
Speaker 2: and then you do have the dichotomy of Bill eleven
Speaker 2: seasons without Tom Brady, eight losing seasons. Andy, like what,
Speaker 2: I think it's fifteen seasons, No way more than that,
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen seasons without Patrick, three losing seasons, a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl appearance, what had a double digit win season one
Speaker 2: a division with four different quarterbacks. It starts to at
Speaker 2: least become a discussion. So that's the Andy Reid piece
Speaker 2: of it. So all right, let's keep going with these
Speaker 2: other go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you had said something about Belichick having the
Speaker 3: potential to have that Dion Colorado type of effect on
Speaker 3: the team. But obviously Belichick is much cooler. He came
Speaker 3: in with his kids. I don't think he's Oh, do
Speaker 3: you think he's gonna Dion's much? Do you think Belichick
Speaker 3: is going to be as attractive as an attractive pool
Speaker 3: to like other seventeen year olds.
Speaker 2: So not in the same way. And again it might
Speaker 2: not work at all, But I do think that I
Speaker 2: don't want to close the door to the possibility that
Speaker 2: a very certain personality, type of young person, especially someone
Speaker 2: that is laser focused on making the NFL, might find
Speaker 2: Belichick super attractive. And I think that's what they're gonna sell.
Speaker 2: I think what they're gonna sell is we are going
Speaker 2: to prepare you for professional football. Now hard at hard
Speaker 2: nosed coaching. It's very very tough to swallow if you
Speaker 2: can't also sell. And at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: we get to have a parade and we win the
Speaker 2: you know, so like in New England, everyone knew who
Speaker 2: was gonna be hard. Everyone knew it wasn't a ton
Speaker 2: of fun, but they did the most winning. Saving at Alabama,
Speaker 2: everyone knew who was gonna be hard. Everyone knew that
Speaker 2: he was a you know, kind of a pain in
Speaker 2: the ass, but they did the most winning. If you
Speaker 2: and c is seven and five, that's a tougher sell.
Speaker 2: Now you might say Dion was able to sustain, you know,
Speaker 2: not a great first year at Colorado at all. I
Speaker 2: think people look at Colorado as this is gonna be
Speaker 2: insanely fun. We're we're you know what I mean, We're
Speaker 2: having a party where celebrities were also working hard and
Speaker 2: the other here's the other thing, and I have massive
Speaker 2: respect for what Dion's done, but what supercharged the Colorado
Speaker 2: rebuild was that Dion's son is the best quarterback in
Speaker 2: college football and that Travis Hunter came with him, the
Speaker 2: best player in college football, like Belichick's son is going
Speaker 2: to be a coordinator on the team, not playing quarterback.
Speaker 2: So that is like, you know, that's a Colorado I
Speaker 2: believe in what Dion's done, and I undersold what they
Speaker 2: were going to be able to do this year, but
Speaker 2: it would have been a much more gradual build if
Speaker 2: Shador wasn't this superstar player. All right, Oh, this next question.
Speaker 3: Is an interest, So yeah, the three peats matter and
Speaker 3: overall greatness.
Speaker 2: In guys just trying to make this uh a Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan Lebron thing is the reason they put that in.
Speaker 2: But there is doing something no one's ever done in
Speaker 2: the history of the sport matters. So like nobody's ever
Speaker 2: done a three peet in the NFL. And I'm not
Speaker 2: taking the bait David Jordan Lebron debate here. I am
Speaker 2: interested in the bell the question above that demons in
Speaker 2: the rundown that they just highlighted that one I think
Speaker 2: is fascinating.
Speaker 3: Any chance Belichick could pull Jets resignation two point oh
Speaker 3: move if the Giants offered him a job.
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be so unbelievable. I can't put
Speaker 2: it at zero, but I will put it very very
Speaker 2: close to zero. So you don't you're not familiar with
Speaker 2: what they're referencing. So Bill, here was Bill Belichick's coaching history,
Speaker 2: because if you go to Bill Belichick's Wikipedia page, I
Speaker 2: think it will have listed head coach of the New
Speaker 2: York Jets. But you'll be like, wait, he was, and
Speaker 2: the answer is not really. So Bill Belichick was with
Speaker 2: Bill Parcells with the Giants, won a couple Super Bowls,
Speaker 2: designed a game plan that shut down one of the
Speaker 2: greatest offenses ever the Buffalo Bills, and then in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and then went on to be the Browns
Speaker 2: head coach. Okay, after he left the Browns to be
Speaker 2: the head coach, he got back with Parcells in New England,
Speaker 2: which is where Parcells was for one year. Parcells then
Speaker 2: left New England to be the head coach of the Jets. Okay,
Speaker 2: Parcells then resigns from the Jets. They named Bill Belichick
Speaker 2: the head coach, and Belichick when he's on his way
Speaker 2: into the introductory press conference for him to be the
Speaker 2: head coach of the Jets, writes down on a napkin,
Speaker 2: I Bill Belichick hereby resign as head coach of the
Speaker 2: New York Jets, and at the introductory press conference says,
Speaker 2: I'm actually quitting and winning to New England to become
Speaker 2: their head coach, their rival. That's how it happened. So
Speaker 2: that's so the it's one of the most unbelievable videos
Speaker 2: you'll ever see him at the press conference, and the
Speaker 2: reporters like what and so the so, because that's in
Speaker 2: the repertoire. And keep in mind when he did that
Speaker 2: demands he was not this legend Bill Belichick. He had
Speaker 2: been a one time fired head coach, and he.
Speaker 3: Just believed he could do it.
Speaker 2: It's legendary. And then he went to their rival, New England,
Speaker 2: and then, you know, a year and a few games
Speaker 2: into his tenure there, Drew Bloodsoe gets hurt. Tom Brady
Speaker 2: comes in and the rest is NFL history. But now, yeah,
Speaker 2: now he's gonna run the show at North Carolina. All Right,
Speaker 2: I think that covers all the Belichick stuff. We'll probably
Speaker 2: we'll talk more about it with me Jeanie on the
Speaker 2: show today. Manginie and I honestly should feel a little
Speaker 2: snubbed because eight years ago there was a little listen
Speaker 2: to three person podcast called the Make Me Smarter NFL
Speaker 2: Podcast and it was me, Eric, Manginie, and Michael Lombardi.
Speaker 2: And Michael Lombardi now gets to be the GM of
Speaker 2: North Carolina football and Eric and I don't as much
Speaker 2: get a phone call today. I can't be your your
Speaker 2: nil CAF expert. You don't call Eric to CEV wants
Speaker 2: to run the defense. I mean kind of shitty if
Speaker 2: you ask me. But whatever, all right, let's talk some
Speaker 2: Let's talk some of the games this weekend.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we've seen late season had to have matchups
Speaker 3: have a heavy thing to do with the MVP award.
Speaker 3: Last year was Lamar Jackson. He took Perty and McCaffrey
Speaker 3: out of their running with that win late in the season.
Speaker 3: So a similar situation is coming up with Golf and Allen.
Speaker 3: So if you think that you know Golf and the
Speaker 3: Lions will win the game, wouldn't it be smart to
Speaker 3: bet Golf at MVP. His odds are at plus one thousand.
Speaker 2: So this is a point I've been trying to make
Speaker 2: for the last two weeks, and I've been making it
Speaker 2: while holding, you know, two plastic tiny hands on television,
Speaker 2: so understandably people have kind of missed it. But I
Speaker 2: think Jared Goff is super live for MVP for this
Speaker 2: exact reason that I thought Allan was going to lose
Speaker 2: to the Rams, and I think they're going to lose
Speaker 2: to the Lions and have all So, Allan's had some
Speaker 2: record breaking performances, but his overall numbers are not like
Speaker 2: unbelievable the way Lamar's are or Joe Burrows are. To
Speaker 2: be honest, it's more of like he's been the story
Speaker 2: of the season, but it's hard to be the story
Speaker 2: of the season if the Bills end up being the
Speaker 2: three seed in the AFC, behind the Chiefs and the Steelers. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: the Lions just keep winning, and now we're gonna get
Speaker 2: a game with Nanson Romo on the call in Detroit,
Speaker 2: where if Detroit wins and Goff's numbers have been great
Speaker 2: and they get to thirteen and one, I think people
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, hey, why aren't we giving Jared
Speaker 2: Goff more MVP love. So I listen, I don't think
Speaker 2: Jared Goff's the MVP of that team. I think he's
Speaker 2: played really well, but I think we get a little
Speaker 2: too fascinated by the quarterbacks. Like the running game, the
Speaker 2: offensive lines the MVP of the team, but the I
Speaker 2: absolutely think narratively demanse Golf takes a huge leap this weekend,
Speaker 2: and I think Josh if he loses too in a row,
Speaker 2: even though he was awesome obviously in the game against
Speaker 2: the Rams, the quarterbacks wins, folks are going to start
Speaker 2: to poke at his case.
Speaker 3: And so that's that's where if Josh Allen wins, so
Speaker 3: the winner of this game, you're basically saying it's probably
Speaker 3: an MVP.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to dismiss Saquan, but the other
Speaker 2: side is correct. If Josh wins this game and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they lost to the Rams, but they scored forty two points,
Speaker 2: they then go beat a Lions team that hasn't lost
Speaker 2: since Week two on the longest winning streak in the league,
Speaker 2: it would put Josh in great, great MVP position. That
Speaker 2: that part is definitively true. All right, let's get to
Speaker 2: the next game.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, last year you're riding on the Eagles high
Speaker 3: and so they all fell apart at the end of
Speaker 3: the season there and now it seems that there are
Speaker 3: some things going on inside of the locker room. Do
Speaker 3: you think that a lost by your Eagles to the
Speaker 3: to the Steelers this weekend will put you in dire straits?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that they can. I don't know
Speaker 2: that they have the organizational leadership to sustain a bad
Speaker 2: game this weekend. I think that they have. They would
Speaker 2: have if they didn't set a fire then poor Kerosene
Speaker 2: on it then add other stuff to it to make
Speaker 2: it just an inferno. And now you've got Kellen Moore
Speaker 2: the OC having a press conference just telling the world, yes,
Speaker 2: we are going to try to get aj Brown more involved.
Speaker 2: That is a high priority. Like, guys, your running back
Speaker 2: Mike is the other guy who can win MVP. You
Speaker 2: started one and two, you're now eleven and two. Nothing's
Speaker 2: wrong and now big picture. Bamani tweeted this and he
Speaker 2: was right, and it sounded mean, and I don't think
Speaker 2: Demands is gonna like it, which is why I said
Speaker 2: why I'm putting it on Bomani as the tweeter because
Speaker 2: he well, he was, which is ultimately every team Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts has ever been on since Channelview High School has
Speaker 2: found itself limited by his passing. And that's just true.
Speaker 2: It's why Alabama went to TUA of Oklahoma got the
Speaker 2: most out of him, but it was part of the
Speaker 2: reason they got rocked by LSU in the playoff. And
Speaker 2: Philly finds itself there right now. Jalen Hurts is a
Speaker 2: really good player whose biggest weakness as a player is
Speaker 2: his pure passing ability, and it's frustrating his receivers. But
Speaker 2: the receivers, I feel, made a massive error by not
Speaker 2: letting that stay in house. And Brandon Graham made an
Speaker 2: error by making it clear also by the way, yeah,
Speaker 2: Jalen and Brandon, I'm sorry, Jalen and aj don't get
Speaker 2: you know, they're not friends anymore, like huh? And that
Speaker 2: also shed light on so what did happen to Philly
Speaker 2: at the end of last year? Oh?
Speaker 3: Was it? That?
Speaker 2: Was it? That the best player on your offense and
Speaker 2: the quarterback who had been super tight worn anymore? So?
Speaker 2: I just I think the Eagles defense has improved enough.
Speaker 2: Saquan's playing well enough, they have a great offensive line,
Speaker 2: they have so many components of an awesome team. They
Speaker 2: should be able to sustain this, especially against the Steelers
Speaker 2: team that isn't gonna have George Pickens this weekend. But
Speaker 2: I'd be nervous if I were a Philly fan.
Speaker 3: There's no the least problematic guy on the team except
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 2: It's Sirianni's job to to premit sometuthing like this from happening.
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman picks the players, Vic Fangio calls the defense,
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore calls the offense. Sirianni's job is game management,
Speaker 2: not great and vibes not great. So I mean, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, that just is the truth of it. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go to the next one.
Speaker 3: All right. So we talked about the Rams a bunch
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, so we're gonna focus on the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers here. So at the beginning of the season, everybody
Speaker 3: was saying, you know, the forty nine Ers are supposed
Speaker 3: to come out of the the NFC on top that
Speaker 3: one seedon but if they.
Speaker 2: Live, the favorite to win the Super Bowl, favorite over
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl the beginning of the.
Speaker 3: Year, Yeah, So I mean, if they lose tonight, the
Speaker 3: season's probably over, but we don't talk about them like
Speaker 3: we talk about the Jets, the Cowboys and the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Why is that? Yep?
Speaker 2: So it's an interesting Now. The Jets are almost a
Speaker 2: different story because it's been so cartoonish and they only
Speaker 2: have three wins and they just keep blowing games, and
Speaker 2: Roger like, that's been just a disaster. I think people
Speaker 2: want to give the forty nine ers a pass because
Speaker 2: of the injuries. Uh, and so I look at I
Speaker 2: look at those four teams all differently. So let's just
Speaker 2: deal with the meat before we get to the gambling show.
Speaker 2: The Jets were never going to be this contender people
Speaker 2: thought they were going to be. They had a bad
Speaker 2: coaching situation, an aging enigmatic to use the Netflix word, quarterback,
Speaker 2: overrated talent on offense, a mediocre offensive line. So there's
Speaker 2: the Jets. They shouldn't be three and ten, but they
Speaker 2: were never going to be ten and three. Set them aside.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys. You saw the writing on the wall coming
Speaker 2: this offseason when they didn't. Now, not to this level,
Speaker 2: and I picked them to win the division, So I
Speaker 2: you know, I got it wrong. But now when we
Speaker 2: look back, it's like Oh, they said they were all in.
Speaker 2: They didn't do any and free agency they let all
Speaker 2: these contract situations drag out. Then the quarterback tears his hamstring,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, okay, Micah got hurt and missed time,
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence missed a ton of time. Quarterback tears his hamstring.
Speaker 2: That's how it happens the Bengals, It's very very clear
Speaker 2: what's going on there. Oh, the defense is just unplayably,
Speaker 2: unwinnably bad, and we normally want to put it on
Speaker 2: the stars, the quarterback or whomever. But the quarterback's playing great,
Speaker 2: Jamar's playing great, and the defense just keeps blowing games
Speaker 2: for them. Now. The Bengals, to me, is as disappointing
Speaker 2: as any team in the league because this is likely
Speaker 2: your last year with Chase and Higgins. Burrows bounced back
Speaker 2: from the wrist injury and been unbelievable, and you're gonna
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs. The Niners, it's just been like a
Speaker 2: slow bleed. They're like Harvey Kite Tellent, not Harvey Kite
Speaker 2: tell the guy. Harvey Kite tell is uh is trying
Speaker 2: to make feel better in boon, not boom. Gosh darn it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this whole thing wrong in Boondocks? Is
Speaker 2: it boon Dock Saints? What's the movie? It's not Boondock Saints?
Speaker 2: What the great? Hold on? Hold on? I'm gonna there's
Speaker 2: gonna bother me. What's the amazing Quentin Tarantino movie? Uh?
Speaker 2: Where Harvey Kye? Tell? Uh no? No dogs? Hold on
Speaker 2: the Reservoir Dogs? Thank you? The the Irish guy in
Speaker 2: Reservoir Dogs. Who's just who's actually the undercover cop? Who
Speaker 2: the whole movie is just slowly bleeding to death? That's
Speaker 2: the Niners this season. It's like just a slow dramatic death. Uh.
Speaker 2: And there's at any given moment it's like, oh, could
Speaker 2: they be all right in the answer is no, And
Speaker 2: you can't be like, oh, well, Purdy just totally went
Speaker 2: pumpkin mode. Perty's been fine. He hasn't been good or great,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't been bad. He's been fine. And at
Speaker 2: various times you're like, oh, they'll be okay they lose
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. When they win their next two, and
Speaker 2: then that three game losing streak that they just went
Speaker 2: through getting rolled by the Packers and the Bills, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: their season's over. But then they crush the Bears, and
Speaker 2: because they're only six and seven and they're not four
Speaker 2: and nine or five and eight, they feel more alive
Speaker 2: than they actually are. The other reason the Niners, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, you are getting something of a pass is
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three. Those five
Speaker 2: years when four of the five years you're in the
Speaker 2: conference championship game, two of the five years you lose
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl to a dynasty, It's like, Okay, you
Speaker 2: were due for a down year. The reason this down
Speaker 2: years devastating for them is they're about to have to
Speaker 2: go into a bit of a reboot. You gonna it
Speaker 2: seems like they're gonna pay party. I wouldn't. They're going
Speaker 2: to Kittle is awesome, but getting older. Trent Williams is
Speaker 2: banged up, and old Deebo is unhappy and not as good.
Speaker 2: Auk blew out his knee. McCaffrey, it's a lost season.
Speaker 2: He's old for a running back, and it's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: this team's gonna look way, you know, so much more different.
Speaker 2: Uh next season. So I don't know. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's the answer, but that's my diagnosis, Go ahead, demanse.
Speaker 3: On the Bengals, Why is no, I don't know if
Speaker 3: we've talked on it at all. Why is that nobody
Speaker 3: calling for the decoordinator's job. Well, everybody's blaming on.
Speaker 2: No. I mean the real reason is because that guy
Speaker 2: had earned so much credit for overachieving defensively with them.
Speaker 2: And like, I know, people get annoyed with me saying this,
Speaker 2: but everyone associated with the Bengals has gotten more credit
Speaker 2: for beating the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game. Then
Speaker 2: the Rams crew got for two weeks later beating the
Speaker 2: Bengals in the Super Bowl. And when you that lou
Speaker 2: An Arumo, the decordinator there beat Mahomes and you know,
Speaker 2: kind of tricked him into the worst half of football
Speaker 2: of his entire career. Then the next year in the
Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game had the Chiefs on the ropes again.
Speaker 2: And even this year, it's like, oh man, like they
Speaker 2: gave the Chiefs trouble. So because of that they have
Speaker 2: earned so much credit and equity. But yeah, in any
Speaker 2: other spot, the decordinator wouldn't have made it through the year.
Speaker 2: And I think there there's a good chance they bring
Speaker 2: him back next year. But it is a fascinating like
Speaker 2: that twenty twenty one playoff run of in three straight
Speaker 2: weeks of Bill's Chiefs thirteen second game, then Chiefs Bengals
Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game, then Rams Bengals Super Bowl. If we
Speaker 2: are discussing like legend and credit and who earned the
Speaker 2: most that playoff run, honestly, it would go the biggest
Speaker 2: winner was Josh Allen and the way we looked at
Speaker 2: him after that because of how amazing he was in
Speaker 2: that game and them almost beating the Chiefs. The second
Speaker 2: biggest winner was Joe Burrow and the Bengals for actually
Speaker 2: beating the Chiefs, and the bronze battlest was then Matt
Speaker 2: Stafford and the Rams who won the Super Bowl. Like
Speaker 2: and so it's just like, yeah, of course it should be.
Speaker 2: And so it's just like a it's a really facet
Speaker 2: but it is because and again people get annoyed with
Speaker 2: me saying this because I'm a Chiefs fan, But the
Speaker 2: all of the NFL storylines right now, just like during
Speaker 2: the Patriots run, they rotate on the axis of Kansas City,
Speaker 2: meaning can you beat the Chiefs in the playoffs? Have
Speaker 2: you you know, how do you play against the Chiefs regularly?
Speaker 2: Your quarterback is having this type of year? Is but yeah,
Speaker 2: is he can he be as good as Mahomes like?
Speaker 2: All the NFL storylines rotate around the Chiefs, which is
Speaker 2: what happens when you're the team in the midst of
Speaker 2: a dynasty. All right, right, hot gambling show, we give
Speaker 2: you our picks. Next, what's up? Welcome back in What's
Speaker 2: right with ni? Great time Now for the week fifteen? Ah,
Speaker 2: that almost makes you sad. Gambling show. Last week another
Speaker 2: week in the Green we can show you the picks.
Speaker 2: Green Bay getting three and a half at Detroit. They cover.
Speaker 2: They don't win, but they cover on Thursday night. But
Speaker 2: that's why that half point matters. The Giants getting four
Speaker 2: and a half against New Orleans. They don't win, but
Speaker 2: they cover. I told you guys, that was too many points.
Speaker 2: They lose fourteen eleven in that game, have a field
Speaker 2: goal blocked at the end. What's up doing today?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, no, I thought I heard something. I misheard it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, sorry that that happened.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're good, do worry it. The I was
Speaker 2: nervous watching Giants Saints because I'm like, oh no, if
Speaker 2: the Giants make the field goal, we can go to
Speaker 2: overtime and lose by six. But they're the Giants, so
Speaker 2: they get it blocked. Tennessee minus three and a half
Speaker 2: against Jacksonville. That was a shameful loss by the Titans.
Speaker 2: They're up three to nothing, have third and goal from
Speaker 2: inside the one, up three nothing, playing the Jags third
Speaker 2: and goal inside the run, they go pass, pass, and
Speaker 2: it's just awful and so and then late in the
Speaker 2: game when they had a chance to steal the win,
Speaker 2: I still wouldn't have covered. They just Calvin Ridley just
Speaker 2: runs out of bounds on third and five instead of
Speaker 2: getting the first down. They lose. The Rams plus four
Speaker 2: and a half against Buffalo, never a doubt there. They
Speaker 2: were covering basically the entire game. And the Chiefs minus
Speaker 2: three and a half against the Chargers tough one, up
Speaker 2: thirteen to nothing, and then they go and Andy Reid's
Speaker 2: shutdown mode and end up needing a field goal at
Speaker 2: the end to win. So I don't get my cover,
Speaker 2: but three and two, and of course anytime touchdown Genie Cash,
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs minus one point fifty me and Danny gave
Speaker 2: that to you, all right, first game of the week
Speaker 2: is the Thursday night game.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you got the Rams plus three at San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this I think the Rams are on a
Speaker 2: mission right now and recognize they control their own playoff destiny.
Speaker 2: When they're rolling, they are as dangerous as any team
Speaker 2: in that conference. The Niners are not nearly as good
Speaker 2: as they looked last week. They also are not going
Speaker 2: to have Trent Williams again this week, so that's a problem.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna have another offensive lineman, Ben BArch that's
Speaker 2: a problem. They're not gonna have their safety Mustafa, who's
Speaker 2: you know, the guy who plays One of the reasons
Speaker 2: we've seen so much Rams because Hufanga's out. It has
Speaker 2: been out. They might they probably all have Bosa, but
Speaker 2: they might not have Bosa. Their third string running back
Speaker 2: isaat Grendo, they might not have him. Meanwhile, the Rams,
Speaker 2: the only guys who are we know are not playing
Speaker 2: or Kobe Durant and Tyler Higbee. It's a short week.
Speaker 2: They're the better team. They need the game. I'm getting points.
Speaker 2: I don't mind the LA to San Francisco travel, So
Speaker 2: I like the Rams plus three. Brock Perties only covered
Speaker 2: one of his last eight games against teams over five
Speaker 2: hundred and so I like the Rams in this spot.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Demanse, I.
Speaker 3: Love that pick. I think the Rams are gonna get
Speaker 3: him tonight. I think they're gonna get them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I might put a little bit on
Speaker 2: the Rams on the money line, but I certainly like
Speaker 2: him plus three.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, you got Carolina minus two and a
Speaker 3: half versus Dallas. Look at that, all right?
Speaker 2: The first time Carolina's been a favorite in thirty four games.
Speaker 2: It's the first time Bryce has been a favorite since Alabama.
Speaker 2: I think last week's loss ended the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 2: the way it de facto eliminated from the playoffs, even
Speaker 2: though they were already really eliminated, they were it was like, well,
Speaker 2: if we went out, we're alive. So I think that
Speaker 2: kills them. I think that Overshawn injury is devastating emotionally
Speaker 2: and actually because he's one of their best players. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Micah did you know, struggled with that loss massively. Carolina,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, after beating the Saints and the Giants,
Speaker 2: played the Chiefs to a field goal at the gun,
Speaker 2: play the Bucks to overtime, and played the Eagles as
Speaker 2: close as you can play a team when you lose
Speaker 2: by six, had a you know, a perfect play touchdown
Speaker 2: to go up one with forty seconds left that was dropped.
Speaker 2: Carolina feels great after their loss. Dallas feels devastated, and
Speaker 2: I do wonder if the Cowboys pack it in a bit.
Speaker 2: You then add to the fact that this is one
Speaker 2: of the rare spots where if you're Carolina, you're like,
Speaker 2: we definitively have the better quarterback in this game, and
Speaker 2: so Vegas finally had to adjust. Carolina had covered five
Speaker 2: straight and this line opened Carolina by one and a
Speaker 2: half and has just moved in their favor. But I
Speaker 2: think Carolina is gonna win. I obviously i'd like it
Speaker 2: more at one and a half than two and a half,
Speaker 2: and it might get up to three by kickoff. But
Speaker 2: I think Dallas is for the season. I think Carolina
Speaker 2: has been this close to winning and I think they
Speaker 2: break through this week. I like Carolina minus the two
Speaker 2: and a half. I think they're better than the Cowboys right.
Speaker 3: Now, first time they've been favored in thirty four games.
Speaker 3: Though I sketchy back now, but yeah, Cooper Rush is
Speaker 3: not good, all right?
Speaker 2: This one is gonna shock America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just a nasty game. You got the Jets
Speaker 3: finus three at Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Betting on the Jets the first time in Rogers' tenure
Speaker 2: that I'm taking the Jets in Knicks picks and I'm
Speaker 2: laying points. And the reason for that is the Jags
Speaker 2: right now, I know they won this past week. I
Speaker 2: truly believe they're the worst team in the league. I
Speaker 2: also think, as bad as right as I've been about
Speaker 2: the Jets, they're not three and fourteen bad. They might
Speaker 2: be five and twelve bad, but they're not three and
Speaker 2: fourteen We might get the number two pick of the
Speaker 2: draft bad. I don't think the Jets are going to
Speaker 2: mail anything in because I think Aaron is still trying
Speaker 2: to prove he deserves a job somewhere next year. So
Speaker 2: the Jets had the Dolphins beat and found a way
Speaker 2: to blow that game. I think the Jets actually get
Speaker 2: a fairly easy victory this week so that I would
Speaker 2: lay I'd lay four in this game if I had to.
Speaker 2: I honestly think this is a twenty four to nine
Speaker 2: type of victory for the New York Jets and they
Speaker 2: break their God, what losing streak. Are they on six games,
Speaker 2: seven game losing streak, whatever it is, it's mortifying. The
Speaker 2: four game losing streak, pardon me, they were two and one,
Speaker 2: so they've lost nine of ten and four in a row.
Speaker 2: I think that the Jets they have too many. Garrett
Speaker 2: Wilson's trying to prove he deserves a new contract. Aaron's
Speaker 2: trying to prove he deserves this place in this league
Speaker 2: next year. Jeff Ulbrich's trying to prove he at least
Speaker 2: can be a decordinator somewhere again, because he's not gonna
Speaker 2: be a head coach. The Jags, meanwhile, are playing out
Speaker 2: the string with Mac Jones as the quarterback. I no
Speaker 2: one has been more down on the Jets than me
Speaker 2: this year. I'm three and one when I pick against
Speaker 2: them in Knicks Picks. This is my first time picking
Speaker 2: on them in Knicks Picks. I'll take the Jets minus three.
Speaker 3: Yep. I can't say that I love it. I would
Speaker 3: never bet on the Jets.
Speaker 2: Listen, I would never bet on the Jets. Is a
Speaker 2: winning gambling flow, I under but this is the rare
Speaker 2: time that I'm going with it.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, you've got Tampa Bay plus three at
Speaker 3: the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that Tampa's better than the Chargers
Speaker 2: and the Chargers this year, at some point they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to beat a team that has a pulse. I
Speaker 2: brought this up before, I'll bring it up again. Their
Speaker 2: their best win to me was the Bengals win, but
Speaker 2: we then saw the Cowboys almost beat the Bengals. They
Speaker 2: did beat the Broncos, but that was early bo Knicks
Speaker 2: when he was really struggling. There are other wins Raiders,
Speaker 2: Panthers in Week two that got Bryce benched, Saints, Brown's, Titans, Falcons,
Speaker 2: and the Falcons game they tried to lose. The Chargers
Speaker 2: have not looked good the last three weeks. The Ravens
Speaker 2: cracked them. They the Falcons gave that game away with
Speaker 2: the four Kirk Cousins picks, and they obviously just lost
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. The Bucks, on the other hand, need
Speaker 2: every game. They've won three in a row now. They
Speaker 2: didn't look overly impressive in that Raider game, but that
Speaker 2: Chargers offense right now is really struggling, and Tampa knows
Speaker 2: if they can win this game. They then go Cowboys, Panther,
Speaker 2: Saints to end the year and they're going to win
Speaker 2: the division. They lose this game and Atlanta can retake
Speaker 2: control of the division, so all of that is at
Speaker 2: The Chargers, meanwhile, are in kind of an odd now
Speaker 2: that they lost to the Chiefs and the pipe dream
Speaker 2: of winning the division is over. They're in an odd
Speaker 2: motivational space where they need to win one more game
Speaker 2: the rest of the year to lock up a playoff spot.
Speaker 2: And after the Bucks game it's Broncos then Patriots Raiders.
Speaker 2: So the Chargers can't win the division, basically can't fall
Speaker 2: out of the wild card. They just came off an
Speaker 2: emotionally devastating defeat to Kansas City. I don't love how
Speaker 2: they're playing. All the Chargers love playing close games, so
Speaker 2: laying three points or getting three points is valuable to
Speaker 2: me anyway. And I like how Baker's been playing, even
Speaker 2: though he is turning the ball over all. Take Tampa
Speaker 2: going east coast to West, which you know I don't love,
Speaker 2: but going east coast to West Tampa getting three I
Speaker 2: just think they can win. And three points is too
Speaker 2: many points, all right?
Speaker 3: Last year show you got Detroit minus two and a
Speaker 3: half versus Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this this line should be four. Buffalo's listen,
Speaker 2: Buffalo's excellent, but de Troit's better than Buffalo right now
Speaker 2: and they're at home, so like if they are equivalent teams,
Speaker 2: it's two and a half. And I think that Detroit
Speaker 2: is going to be able to run the ball on Buffalo.
Speaker 2: I also think that teams that have multiple quality receivers
Speaker 2: can really punish the Bill's secondary. But against Detroit, you
Speaker 2: have to you have to stop the run first and foremost.
Speaker 2: So I think if they dedicate those guys to the run,
Speaker 2: I think golf can cook a bit and if they
Speaker 2: decide to play too high, they'll just run all over you.
Speaker 2: And so I think Buffalo's really good. But I think
Speaker 2: Detroit wins this game thirty to twenty four something like that.
Speaker 2: And that, you know, there is also for me personally,
Speaker 2: Buffalo losing this game is the ideal because then the
Speaker 2: Chiefs all but lock up the one seed. But that's
Speaker 2: a you know, so that's why I'm rooting for Detroit.
Speaker 2: But I'm picking Detroit because I think that this line
Speaker 2: should be three and a half instead of two and
Speaker 2: a half. That obviously that three is the most key
Speaker 2: number imaginable in this matchup, so I'll take Detroit minus
Speaker 2: the two and a half. I think Golf plays really
Speaker 2: well and gets himself firmly in the MVP top of
Speaker 2: the MVP conversation. All right, so let's get to the
Speaker 2: recap of the picks. My five picks this week, they're
Speaker 2: all three or two and a half. The Rams catching
Speaker 2: three tonight at San Francisco, Carolina, laying two and a
Speaker 2: half at home against Dallas, the Jets laying three on
Speaker 2: the road against Jacksonville, Tampa getting three at the Chargers,
Speaker 2: and Detroit laying two and a half at home in
Speaker 2: one of the games of the week, one of the
Speaker 2: games of the year at home against Buffalo. All Right, Demons,
Speaker 2: let's get to your teaser. Last week didn't.
Speaker 3: Go for you. Not a good teaser. I'm sorry for
Speaker 3: those that trailed me there. But I do think that
Speaker 3: against I was talking to the producers, I think Caleb
Speaker 3: Williams and that Bears team just I kind of look
Speaker 3: at it as a as a rookie team, and if
Speaker 3: they're playing anybody that has the potential to be an
Speaker 3: actual team, I don't think ten points is they can
Speaker 3: just get that need to be more exactly. That needed
Speaker 3: to be more like fourteen. I mean, they lost by
Speaker 3: more than fourteen, but that would have been I feel
Speaker 3: like the smarter.
Speaker 2: You have Carolina getting twenty. I mean that was they
Speaker 2: damn near won the game. But then she, yeah, getting eleven.
Speaker 2: So this week, I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 2: you're going back to the three team, well three team.
Speaker 3: Or yeah we're told, yeah, we're yeah, we're at plus
Speaker 3: odds this week it's a three teams seven and a half.
Speaker 3: I do love the seven and a half. I gotta
Speaker 3: say Cleveland plus twelve versus Kansas City. We got Cincinnati
Speaker 3: plus three at Tennessee, and we're teasing the Giants up
Speaker 3: to twenty four against Baltimore. All right, the Giants, You're
Speaker 3: an NFL team to twenty four point spread, Come on, guys.
Speaker 3: And then Cincinnati obviously is playing for their life right now,
Speaker 3: and it's the Titans and the Chiefs don't beat anybody
Speaker 3: by more than four to five points. So that's I'm
Speaker 3: feeling good. And honestly, I did think about Kansas City,
Speaker 3: like with the state that they're in right now, it's
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to say that they're taking
Speaker 3: their foot off the gas. But what if you know,
Speaker 3: what if something what if something weird happens, and this
Speaker 3: is the time that they you know, they blow somebody
Speaker 3: out in like a I don't know, but it's Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I trust. I trust Cleveland to cover a twelve point
Speaker 3: spread against the Chiefs. I trust anybody to cover a
Speaker 3: twelve point spread against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't mind the part of it. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I hate every other piece.
Speaker 3: Of this, every other piece. I really Bengals plus three
Speaker 3: against the Titans.
Speaker 2: All right, so you have been twenty four, not crossing zero.
Speaker 2: That's first of all, so you you were unable to
Speaker 2: do that with Cincinnati, and Cincinnati's defense like they're they're
Speaker 2: liable to lose to anybody. I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I get it, but I don't love it. And then
Speaker 2: the Giants, I.
Speaker 3: I, you're covering the int you start off with twenty
Speaker 3: four points.
Speaker 2: Now, I understand what the Ravens. The Ravens twice again,
Speaker 2: they're pissed, they're coming off of Bye, they're angry, and
Speaker 2: the Giants are hilariously bad like the and the Ravens
Speaker 2: twice this year have beaten teams by more than twenty four,
Speaker 2: and it was the bill shot in the Broncos Like,
Speaker 2: I don't like this one.
Speaker 3: I don't the Giant. The Giants just covered for the
Speaker 3: lad I don't know who they are. Last week the
Speaker 3: Giants has covered for me. I think there were plus
Speaker 3: four and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah against against the Saints. Yeah, I had that bad
Speaker 2: to you. I understand that, but yes I did. Playing
Speaker 2: Darren Rizzy and the Saints. I listen the greade I'm getting, Okay,
Speaker 2: I hope you win. I hope you win, but I
Speaker 2: don't With the Chiefs game, you're not getting the key
Speaker 2: numbers sends it out of You're crossing the zero and
Speaker 2: you're teasing the worst team in the league. Vegas thinks
Speaker 2: they they're gonna lose by seventeen, and you're like, but
Speaker 2: they can't lose by twenty four. I just don't love it.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I'd love to love it,
Speaker 2: but I don't love it. If I'm gonna tease the
Speaker 2: Giants Ravens game, I'm teasing it otherwise.
Speaker 3: Down to nine, you know how the Ravens and let
Speaker 3: let teams back into it. It is the Giants.
Speaker 2: It's the Giants. I don't know, man, I just I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. All right, what's the offer this week?
Speaker 3: Um? Yeah, So this offer that comes from the game
Speaker 3: of the week between the Bills and the Lions. Both
Speaker 3: teams are top five and interceptions right now, and the
Speaker 3: Bills are top three and fumble recoveries. So with the
Speaker 3: MVP on the line, can we see the throwback? That's it?
Speaker 2: This week?
Speaker 3: The offer is Detroit Buffalo game to have over two
Speaker 3: and a half turnovers at plus one twenty?
Speaker 2: Do you like Detroit Buffalo game to have over two
Speaker 2: and a half turnovers at plus one twenty? I gotta
Speaker 2: turn it down.
Speaker 3: The best like plus seven three turnovers?
Speaker 2: No, I mean plus seven hundred we'd obviously take, but
Speaker 2: I think it's got to be closer to like two
Speaker 2: to one. So I get it that golf, you know,
Speaker 2: the golf stripsack or golf, but golfs aside from the
Speaker 2: five interception, game has been pretty good. Taking care of
Speaker 2: the football, Josh Allen's been good. Now, I actually think
Speaker 2: it's going to be a well played game. I sadly
Speaker 2: have to turn down the offer. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: come back answer some listener questions, then get out of here.
Speaker 1: What's right?
Speaker 2: All right? Welcome back in What's right with Nick? Right
Speaker 2: demonse the listener Curtis It said, he knows what teams
Speaker 2: I'm picking face off in the Super Bowl? Who are
Speaker 2: you picking right now this moment to face off in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I've got to be loyal and say Ravens Ravens Detroit.
Speaker 3: I initially said that it was going to be Chiefs
Speaker 3: Eagles again, but with the stuff that's going on with
Speaker 3: the Eagles right now, I don't know I think that,
Speaker 3: but I'd go Lions. I'd go Lions Chiefs for being real.
Speaker 2: Right, if you had to actually put money on it,
Speaker 2: you'd go Lions Chiefs, which I understand. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: All right, you can now go back to I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I was for you. I wanted to ask it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so el Hayes, Hey, Nick, how's the triathlon training coming.
Speaker 2: It's going pretty good. It was on the bike this morning. Again.
Speaker 2: I'm leaning maybe to making it a do Apple instead
Speaker 2: of triathlon because I don't know that I want to
Speaker 2: train the swimming that much. I just don't know how
Speaker 2: much I would enjoy that. But it's going good. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm in the best shape of my life
Speaker 2: right now, so yeah, I appreciate you asking, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Alex hay Nikka demands, with the rules changing this
Speaker 3: year for Comeback Player of the Year, do you think
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson deserves it to be the front runner winner
Speaker 3: of the award?
Speaker 2: So I think the rule change hurt Russell Wilson because
Speaker 2: I think they clarified it because they didn't like that
Speaker 2: last year Joe Flacco won it over Tomorrow Hamlin because
Speaker 2: it was like, well, you just came back from sucking,
Speaker 2: So they they tweaked it to where it's like you
Speaker 2: need to be coming back from like an injury or
Speaker 2: something like that. So I think that Russell Wilson's like,
Speaker 2: what's he coming back from? So I think it's wide
Speaker 2: open because Kirk might get benched. Aaron's been awful, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know who even the front runner would be next.
Speaker 3: Grayson. If Bill's luiseh to Lamar be MVP. He beats
Speaker 3: Alan in literally every single stat and would have only
Speaker 3: had one less would only have one less win, but
Speaker 3: with a tougher schedule and when they played head to head,
Speaker 3: let's say we beat the Bills this year too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but by thirty five to ten, I he has
Speaker 2: an argument. I and certainly, And this is why I
Speaker 2: think the narrative is gonna shift to golf, because Lamar
Speaker 2: has a pretty good argument versus Josh Allen. If they
Speaker 2: fall to ten and four, not nearly as good of
Speaker 2: an argument against golf. And right now Allen's running away
Speaker 2: with it. So that's one of the reasons I think
Speaker 2: golf could uh. I think golf could end up stealing
Speaker 2: this award.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, Horton, Kaitlyn Clark has voted Times Athlete
Speaker 3: of the Year. Is she in the top five for
Speaker 3: most influential US athletes?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, no question about it. Also, did you
Speaker 2: see this Kaitlyn Clark quote. So, Kaitlyn Clark did an
Speaker 2: interview with Time, and she did a good job, I thought,
Speaker 2: kind of advocating for black women in the sport and
Speaker 2: doing a lot of things people had said she should
Speaker 2: have done earlier. But it was good to see her
Speaker 2: do it. She had another quote that didn't get as
Speaker 2: much attention, but is legit hilarious because she unintentionally absolutely
Speaker 2: nay palms the girls she played against in college. I'm
Speaker 2: going to read you this quote. Yeah, professional players and
Speaker 2: professional coaches, this is no disrespect to college women's bast
Speaker 2: baketball are a lot smarter. I love women's college basketball,
Speaker 2: but if you go back and watch the way people
Speaker 2: guarded me in college, it's almost like concerning. They didn't
Speaker 2: double me, they didn't trap me. They weren't physical, and
Speaker 2: it's hard. It's college. A lot of these women will
Speaker 2: never go on to play another basketball game in their life.
Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ of understanding how the game works.
Speaker 2: So I completely understand it, and it's no disrespect at all.
Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ. You have to simplify it
Speaker 2: for girls at that age. Geez, absolutely naked rude. But
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be rude. But these ladies were
Speaker 2: dumb and are not going to be playing basketball much longer.
Speaker 2: Torches them. Oh my god, it was unbelo So you
Speaker 2: know women's college basketball. Me and your sisters and your
Speaker 2: mom went to the double head head at Barclays and
Speaker 2: Paige Beckers, who's either the best or the second best
Speaker 2: player in the sport, gave Deanna fist bump and she
Speaker 2: was over the moon. I know is living quite the life,
Speaker 2: but uh, and and by the way, one women's college
Speaker 2: basketball note, I understand UCLA is the number one team
Speaker 2: in the country. Oh, you should hold on a second here,
Speaker 2: that's a good idea, Nick, Ucla women's basketball. Let me
Speaker 2: when does UCLA play USC? So they owe final game
Speaker 2: of the regular season. They're at USC February thirteenth, and
Speaker 2: they host USC March first. All if you have any interest, demonse,
Speaker 2: all hits you good tickets to either of those games.
Speaker 3: I'd love to. So, yeah, this year, what day is
Speaker 3: it fall? I think the seventh, Okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe the ninth. I should know the February ninth.
Speaker 3: So, but i'd love so.
Speaker 2: UCLA is the number one team in the country. The
Speaker 2: reason I even thought of it is because I watched
Speaker 2: Yukon and I'm like, listen, I haven't watched UCLA women
Speaker 2: yet this year. I don't know how any team is
Speaker 2: possibly better than Yukon. Yukon was just so unbelievable. Immediately
Speaker 2: I watched the Iowa Tennessee game before that game was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yukon came out looked like they were playing a different sport.
Speaker 2: But seeing UCLA the number one team in the country,
Speaker 2: and then Juju against USC like for USC would be unbelievable.
Speaker 2: So that should be a great matchup. That'd be really,
Speaker 2: really good. So it's either February thirteenth at USC or
Speaker 2: March first against UCLA. All right, great show to Monday.
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