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Watch Unstoppable now exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Drip In the Great Episode two eighty five. 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: A ton to do Today, A lot going on. Bill 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: Belichick is the head coach of the North Carolina tar 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: Heel football team. We are off a third straight winning week, 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: well above five hundred in the Gambling Show eleven and four, 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: the last three weeks, really feeling hitting our stride. Danny 15 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: parkins Aragon ass you had a losing week, only one 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: game behind him on the TV Picks, which had been 17 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: so Here's how we do the Gambling Show. Every Thursday morning, 18 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: I pick my five bets for the weekend. Sometimes there's 19 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: a Thursday night football game involved in those. There might 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: be one this week and then by Friday afternoon, with 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: more injury information, more weather information, more time to marinate. 22 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: Among those five, I pick my three favorite, and so 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: the I'm fifty four percent ish on the five picks 24 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: every week on this show, sixty one percent on the 25 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: three picks that we do every Friday on First Things First. 26 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: So that's going great a ton to do, so let's 27 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: get right into it. Here's what missed the cut. The 28 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Bill's ownership group has added Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: and oh my demons, I'm gonna send you do not 30 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: read this text on the air, Okay, but I am 31 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: going to. You're gonna be able to tell from the 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: initials who this text is too. And then read what 33 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: I wrote, Read the very top what I wrote, I 34 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: guess Sindra's screenshot, and then a couple replies later, here's 35 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: why I might be getting involved in Obviously not the NFL, 36 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: I don't have money like that, but with a sports 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: ownership group. Might be being connected by dear friend. Again, 38 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: I want to be a little cagey about it, but 39 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: you saw that I got that response this morning. Now 40 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: I sent the initial inquiry. I looked, I think October 41 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: thirty first, but it's a busy man. I was reaching 42 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: out too. I got the response this morning to it 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. On the peloton working out is like I 44 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: can connect you with the people, So that'd be that 45 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: would be pretty sick, right, So we'll talk more about that. 46 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: I apologize. I know that's annoying for the audience, but 47 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: it'll hopefully there'll be a cool payoff in like six months. 48 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: We can play this cli and be like, hey, remember 49 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: that thing I was talking about, Well, this is what 50 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: it was. Also, Xavier Legett is getting shamed for eating raccoons. Listen, 51 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Xavier leget is country and I'm not country. However, especially 52 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: on your side of the family, Demons, there's a lot 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: of country and so the so I don't I I 54 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: don't think that is what'd you say? 55 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: I said, I'm pretty sure I've had raccoon before. Like, way, 56 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: wait you think so? Unless Grandaddy was lying to me, 57 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: but well he. 58 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: Might have been lying to you. I don't know, but dies, 59 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: but certainly your bloodline has like there's like that. We 60 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: don't have to go far into the generational background possible. 61 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: I think it's right. I think it's on the board. 62 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: I maybe your mother, certainly your grandparents, and so I mean, listen, 63 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: if you're southern per like the Southern country folks, you're 64 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: gonna eat. You know, Shannon talks about this all the time, like, so, 65 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: I actually don't find that as odd as other people 66 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: find it. And Aaron Rodgers some stupid alien thing. I 67 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: don't really care about it. All right, let's get to 68 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: the shocking news. And before we even get to it, 69 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: I want to shout out Ali Connolly and Inside Carolina 70 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: dot Com, who had this story nuts to Bolts days 71 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: ahead of everyone. And I was a little annoyed yesterday 72 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: because they had it a week ago that it was happening. 73 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: They had it yesterday early in the day that it 74 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: was oli two days ago, had you know, about the 75 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Bible and all of this, And then Schefter and Chris 76 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: Lowe kind of parachute in and are like, oh, breaking news, 77 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: things done. And I was like, these guys, these guys 78 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: beat everyone on this story. And credit to them for 79 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: beating everyone on this story. All right. The only reason 80 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: I even really know who Ali Connelly is is we 81 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: were asked last week about podcasts I listened to, and 82 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: I said NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Ali Connolly, who 83 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: I think is a British dude, has co hosted that 84 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: show with Greg before, so I knew who he was. 85 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: But regardless, all right, go ahead and give us the 86 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: news and then we'll discuss. 87 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Belichick's head to you n C. I'm not 88 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: going to take the bait on that. But do you 89 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: think that there's any case where this turns out to 90 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: be a good move? 91 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I mean I think that if he gets 92 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: to North Carolina the college football player, it greatly enhances 93 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: his legacy. And I think that's on the board the 94 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: I mean this year, two teams from the ACC made 95 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff in Clemson and SMU. And so 96 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: college football's change now where it's no longer like championship 97 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: or bust. It's really or BCS Bowl or bust. It's like, hey, 98 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: can I make the twelve team playoff? Like Colorado had 99 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: an awesome year, but had they made the playoff, it 100 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: would have felt like they won a championship. That would 101 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: have been their championship really, and so I think Belichick 102 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: probably looked at what Prime did at Colorado and was 103 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: like that was the worst team in college football, the worst, 104 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: and he got him playoff adjacent in two years. North 105 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: Carolina won six games this year, they had the number 106 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: three pick of the draft year like they had Drake 107 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: May went there, like, so they're not a blue blood 108 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: football program, like they're a basketball program, but they're not 109 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the dregs. They're not Rutgers when Schiano took over. So 110 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a guaranteed disaster. I do think 111 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: this Seth Wickersham article, and Seth is great, that involves 112 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: massive spin zone from Belichick's people is ludicrous, So people 113 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: should check out Seth Wickersham's article where he quotes a 114 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: source close to Bill Belichick, who, again, this is rude 115 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: of me, but I don't really care, and I used 116 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: to actually do a podcast with this guy ages ago. 117 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: But I would bet any amount of money that's sourced 118 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: close to Bill Belichick is Michael Lombardi, who's never met 119 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: a microphone he doesn't like and is now gonna be 120 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Belichick's GM at North Carolina. The sore close said that 121 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: Bill is quote disgusted with what the NFL had become, 122 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: and this is a big f you to the NFL. Okay, 123 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: now we have to be honest and fair about what 124 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: actually transpired here, and what transpired here is Belichick, after 125 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: being left out in the cold for a hiring cycle, 126 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: appears to have done the old high school maybe even 127 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: junior high move, which is, hey, did you hear Sarah's 128 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: gonna break up with you at lunch? And then you 129 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: go find her in third period, like I break up 130 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: with you. Oh no, no, no, I'm gonna move like that, 131 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: like you didn't break up with me. I broke up 132 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: with you. It's like no, but I was going no, no, no, 133 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: I broke up with you. I'm dumbing you, I'm leaving. 134 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: I don't like you. I think Bill Belichick had on 135 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: pretty good authority. The NFL was gonna pass on him again, 136 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: and by the way, I think that's a mistake. I 137 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: think there are teams out there that would have done 138 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: well to hire Bill Belichick. I don't think that he's 139 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't think every If I were the Bears, I 140 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: wouldn't hire Belichick because I want a coach who can 141 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: grow with Caleb for a decade, you know. So it's 142 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: not a perfect fit everywhere, but if I were the Cowboys, 143 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: I'd hire Belichick. They you know, a team that's already 144 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: built that you know, has the quarterback in place, like 145 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: so there are I think it's a mistake that no 146 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: team wanted him, But I think it's very clear no 147 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: team wanted him, and if any team wanted him, they 148 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: only wanted him just as the coach. And no matter 149 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: what Bill said and that those Falcons interviews, I he 150 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: clearly is prioritizing being the czar of everything. And at 151 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: North Carolina he's going to get to and he's just 152 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: getting the band back together. He's bringing Mike Lombardi back. 153 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: I assume Josh McDaniels could be involved, and he is 154 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: going to be the grand Puba of all things football. 155 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: And that's that's what's gonna happen here. And so it 156 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: is a stunning and shocking turn of events. In that 157 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: last year, we were discussing demons. Should the Eagles fire 158 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: Sirianni just to be able to hire Belichick? And the 159 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: Eagles were discussing that. Ownership was discussing that, and the 160 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: we talked about if the Bills collapsed, should they fire 161 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott in order to be hired in order to 162 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: hire Bill Belichick, and now he is taking the North 163 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: Carolina job in order to I think, make sure he 164 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: has a landing spot. One other piece on this before 165 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: we get to the blackballing stuff. I know they just 166 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: erased it, but I actually want you to ask me 167 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: about that. But before we get to that, the idea that, 168 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: oh Belichick always wanted to go back to college, folks, 169 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: if he always wanted to go back to college, Alabama 170 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: was open a year ago, his good friend Nick Saban 171 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: was leaving. They didn't have a succession in place. That's 172 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: why they went and got Calen de boor the idea 173 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: that he wouldn't have just decided, Okay, I'm going to 174 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: go to college and I'll just take over for my 175 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: buddy Nick Saban. I think that's I think that's foolishness. 176 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: But go ahead and ask me about the blackballing is 177 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: too strong, but about that and we'll. 178 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: Get Yeah, you said that the NFL, but I consider 179 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: not giving Belichick a job again. But like, there's gonna 180 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: be teams like the Giants, the Giants, the Raiders and 181 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: obviously owned by Tom Brady. Why do you think that 182 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: he would not be able to get a job with you. 183 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: So I so I think that I really do wonder 184 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: how much poison was spit in other owner's ears by 185 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Robert Craft, and I think that really damaged Bill. We 186 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: know that Bill interviewed for one job last year, the 187 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: Falcons job, and it would appear from the reporting I've 188 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: read that Robert Craft kind of went out of his 189 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: way to screw him on that that Robert Craft twice 190 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: talked to Oh, what's the Falcons owner's name? Dude who 191 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: owns Arthur Blank? Arthur twice talked to Arthur Blank and 192 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: did not give rave reviews. Sidebar shout out Arthur Blank 193 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: origin story when home Depot was first opening, in order 194 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: to get customers are their Blanks stood in the parking 195 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: lot with tons and tons of one dollar bills and 196 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: would tell people, I'll give you a dollar if you 197 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: just walk in my store just to see what it's like. 198 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: I like those stories. That guy's like, I got a 199 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: good product I gotta get I gotta get asses in 200 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: the door. I'll just hand you. I'll just give you money. 201 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: I have like I always in my brain, I separate 202 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: owners into two groups. Built a business, got rich and 203 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: inherited team from Dad, and I always assume like different 204 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: levels of sophistication based on that. So like Robert Kraft 205 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: built a business good for him. And again the guys 206 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: who inherit, you know, inherited team from Dad, they might 207 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: be sharp as well, but I don't assume it. Shod 208 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: CON's origin story is one of my favorite. Shod Con 209 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: worked for a company. No shod Con. Shot Con worked 210 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: for a company that made bumpers like things on your 211 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: car and went to the boss was like, hey, better 212 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: way to do this. I figured it out on my 213 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: own time, and the boss was like, shut up, get 214 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: back to work. So he quit, started his own bumper 215 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: company with his own idea, and now he makes all 216 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: the bumpers like if you got if you have like 217 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: a Toyota or Honda or something that his shotgun does it. 218 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, that's super cool. So like, uh 219 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: all right, now back to Sorry that was a sidebar. 220 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: I just find it interesting. The So I do wonder 221 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: how much Craft hurt Belichick in this, because Craft, clearly 222 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: we know from that Patriots doc Angry with Bill Kraft 223 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: thinks pretty clearly that on the Patriot Dynasty movie poster, 224 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Tom Brady is the first name listed, but the second 225 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: is his and not Bills that Robert Kraft and I 226 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: don't buy that at all. Uh. And so I Bill 227 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: was going to it would appear get shut out of 228 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: this coaching search. So why the Giants thing? I think 229 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: he's nervous that the Giants might not be making a 230 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: head coaching change, and if they do, that is pardon me, 231 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: full on rebuild like from the Studs the Raiders thing. 232 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't know that he was 233 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: confident Tom would say let's hire him, or maybe it 234 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: was that he didn't want to work for Tom, or 235 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: maybe I don't I don't know. I don't know. There 236 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: that's an odd dynamic that I don't really even want 237 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: to speculate on. Also, it should be noted right that'd 238 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: be brutal. That be brutal. And again I don't know 239 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: their relationship, but if it's at all in question, could 240 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: you imagine like you were this guy's if you're Belichick, 241 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: you were Brady's boss for twenty years and then he 242 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: gets to interview you and kind of rake you over 243 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: the coals and then be like ah, denied, Like I mean, 244 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: that doesn't sound pleasant and so. And also, by the way, 245 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: he should be noted Tom owns five percent of the Raiders, 246 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: So I maybe the Raiders are like, hey, you know, 247 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: give us all the input you have. And maybe the 248 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: Raiders are like, okay, we'll take your suggestion. But he 249 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: obviously doesn't have full control unless they just want him 250 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: to have it. So it might just be Al Davis's kid, 251 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Mark Davis, you know who's making that decision. And maybe 252 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: and by the way, maybe the Raiders are gonna keep 253 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce, Like I'm pre firing Antonio Pearce in my head, 254 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: but he could keep the job. So Bill clearly didn't 255 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: think he was getting a job. And I think that 256 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: is I think that's really really fascinating. All right, let's 257 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: go to some of these follow ups. 258 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 3: Demanse Uh, So you were saying that Andy Reid comes 259 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: out a winner and all this howl. So is he 260 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: just running himself into the ground. 261 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I Andy Reid's gonna end up with 262 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: the wins record. So the wins record right now, Shula 263 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: is at three forty seven, Belichick's at three point thirty 264 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: three and never moving past that, Like that's locked, that's done. 265 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: Andy's at two ninety six and that's playoffs and regular 266 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: season combined, so he'll be at around three hundred at 267 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: the end of this year. Is he gonna coach at 268 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: least three more years? 269 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: Will? 270 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: He just signed a five year, one hundred million dollar 271 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: new deal. He averages fifteen combined win year as since 272 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: Mahomes has been there. So he'll run Belichick down in 273 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: a little over maybe just two years or a little 274 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: over two years. And he could run Shula down in 275 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: a little over three years. And when we're talking greatest 276 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: coach of all time, Shula currently has two things really 277 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: in his favor, more wins undefeated season. Andy, I think, 278 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: is going to have in his favor the most wins 279 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: ever and first ever three peat. Right, Belichick's gonna have 280 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: in his favor the six rings, which could be tough 281 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: for Andy to catch. But Andy after this year might 282 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: be at four with a three peat. And it's just 283 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: the point that I was trying to make on TV 284 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: was this. I think that right now, if you were 285 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: to ask family feud style one hundred NFL fans, who's 286 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: the greatest football NFL coach ever? I think Bill Belichick 287 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: gets more than ninety of the votes. I think it's 288 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: almost a unanimously held opinion. But if Andy runs him 289 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: down and wins and or pulls off the three peat, 290 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 2: and then you do have the dichotomy of Bill eleven 291 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: seasons without Tom Brady, eight losing seasons. Andy, like what, 292 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: I think it's fifteen seasons, No way more than that, 293 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen seasons without Patrick, three losing seasons, a Super 294 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: Bowl appearance, what had a double digit win season one 295 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: a division with four different quarterbacks. It starts to at 296 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: least become a discussion. So that's the Andy Reid piece 297 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: of it. So all right, let's keep going with these 298 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: other go ahead. 299 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you had said something about Belichick having the 300 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: potential to have that Dion Colorado type of effect on 301 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: the team. But obviously Belichick is much cooler. He came 302 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: in with his kids. I don't think he's Oh, do 303 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: you think he's gonna Dion's much? Do you think Belichick 304 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: is going to be as attractive as an attractive pool 305 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: to like other seventeen year olds. 306 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: So not in the same way. And again it might 307 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: not work at all, But I do think that I 308 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 2: don't want to close the door to the possibility that 309 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: a very certain personality, type of young person, especially someone 310 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: that is laser focused on making the NFL, might find 311 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: Belichick super attractive. And I think that's what they're gonna sell. 312 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: I think what they're gonna sell is we are going 313 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: to prepare you for professional football. Now hard at hard 314 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: nosed coaching. It's very very tough to swallow if you 315 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: can't also sell. And at the end of the year, 316 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: we get to have a parade and we win the 317 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 2: you know, so like in New England, everyone knew who 318 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: was gonna be hard. Everyone knew it wasn't a ton 319 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: of fun, but they did the most winning. Saving at Alabama, 320 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: everyone knew who was gonna be hard. Everyone knew that 321 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: he was a you know, kind of a pain in 322 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: the ass, but they did the most winning. If you 323 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: and c is seven and five, that's a tougher sell. 324 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: Now you might say Dion was able to sustain, you know, 325 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: not a great first year at Colorado at all. I 326 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: think people look at Colorado as this is gonna be 327 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: insanely fun. We're we're you know what I mean, We're 328 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: having a party where celebrities were also working hard and 329 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 2: the other here's the other thing, and I have massive 330 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: respect for what Dion's done, but what supercharged the Colorado 331 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: rebuild was that Dion's son is the best quarterback in 332 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 2: college football and that Travis Hunter came with him, the 333 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: best player in college football, like Belichick's son is going 334 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: to be a coordinator on the team, not playing quarterback. 335 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: So that is like, you know, that's a Colorado I 336 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: believe in what Dion's done, and I undersold what they 337 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: were going to be able to do this year, but 338 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: it would have been a much more gradual build if 339 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: Shador wasn't this superstar player. All right, Oh, this next question. 340 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: Is an interest, So yeah, the three peats matter and 341 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: overall greatness. 342 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: In guys just trying to make this uh a Michael 343 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Jordan Lebron thing is the reason they put that in. 344 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: But there is doing something no one's ever done in 345 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: the history of the sport matters. So like nobody's ever 346 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: done a three peet in the NFL. And I'm not 347 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: taking the bait David Jordan Lebron debate here. I am 348 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: interested in the bell the question above that demons in 349 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: the rundown that they just highlighted that one I think 350 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: is fascinating. 351 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: Any chance Belichick could pull Jets resignation two point oh 352 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: move if the Giants offered him a job. 353 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be so unbelievable. I can't put 354 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: it at zero, but I will put it very very 355 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: close to zero. So you don't you're not familiar with 356 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: what they're referencing. So Bill, here was Bill Belichick's coaching history, 357 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: because if you go to Bill Belichick's Wikipedia page, I 358 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: think it will have listed head coach of the New 359 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: York Jets. But you'll be like, wait, he was, and 360 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: the answer is not really. So Bill Belichick was with 361 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: Bill Parcells with the Giants, won a couple Super Bowls, 362 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: designed a game plan that shut down one of the 363 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: greatest offenses ever the Buffalo Bills, and then in the 364 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and then went on to be the Browns 365 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: head coach. Okay, after he left the Browns to be 366 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: the head coach, he got back with Parcells in New England, 367 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: which is where Parcells was for one year. Parcells then 368 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: left New England to be the head coach of the Jets. Okay, 369 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: Parcells then resigns from the Jets. They named Bill Belichick 370 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: the head coach, and Belichick when he's on his way 371 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: into the introductory press conference for him to be the 372 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: head coach of the Jets, writes down on a napkin, 373 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: I Bill Belichick hereby resign as head coach of the 374 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: New York Jets, and at the introductory press conference says, 375 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm actually quitting and winning to New England to become 376 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: their head coach, their rival. That's how it happened. So 377 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: that's so the it's one of the most unbelievable videos 378 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: you'll ever see him at the press conference, and the 379 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: reporters like what and so the so, because that's in 380 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: the repertoire. And keep in mind when he did that 381 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: demands he was not this legend Bill Belichick. He had 382 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: been a one time fired head coach, and he. 383 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 3: Just believed he could do it. 384 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: It's legendary. And then he went to their rival, New England, 385 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: and then, you know, a year and a few games 386 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 2: into his tenure there, Drew Bloodsoe gets hurt. Tom Brady 387 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: comes in and the rest is NFL history. But now, yeah, 388 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: now he's gonna run the show at North Carolina. All Right, 389 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: I think that covers all the Belichick stuff. We'll probably 390 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: we'll talk more about it with me Jeanie on the 391 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: show today. Manginie and I honestly should feel a little 392 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: snubbed because eight years ago there was a little listen 393 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: to three person podcast called the Make Me Smarter NFL 394 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: Podcast and it was me, Eric, Manginie, and Michael Lombardi. 395 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: And Michael Lombardi now gets to be the GM of 396 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: North Carolina football and Eric and I don't as much 397 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: get a phone call today. I can't be your your 398 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: nil CAF expert. You don't call Eric to CEV wants 399 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: to run the defense. I mean kind of shitty if 400 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: you ask me. But whatever, all right, let's talk some 401 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: Let's talk some of the games this weekend. 402 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: So, yeah, we've seen late season had to have matchups 403 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: have a heavy thing to do with the MVP award. 404 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: Last year was Lamar Jackson. He took Perty and McCaffrey 405 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 3: out of their running with that win late in the season. 406 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: So a similar situation is coming up with Golf and Allen. 407 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: So if you think that you know Golf and the 408 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: Lions will win the game, wouldn't it be smart to 409 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: bet Golf at MVP. His odds are at plus one thousand. 410 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: So this is a point I've been trying to make 411 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: for the last two weeks, and I've been making it 412 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: while holding, you know, two plastic tiny hands on television, 413 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: so understandably people have kind of missed it. But I 414 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: think Jared Goff is super live for MVP for this 415 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: exact reason that I thought Allan was going to lose 416 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: to the Rams, and I think they're going to lose 417 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: to the Lions and have all So, Allan's had some 418 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: record breaking performances, but his overall numbers are not like 419 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: unbelievable the way Lamar's are or Joe Burrows are. To 420 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: be honest, it's more of like he's been the story 421 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: of the season, but it's hard to be the story 422 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 2: of the season if the Bills end up being the 423 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: three seed in the AFC, behind the Chiefs and the Steelers. Meanwhile, 424 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: the Lions just keep winning, and now we're gonna get 425 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: a game with Nanson Romo on the call in Detroit, 426 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: where if Detroit wins and Goff's numbers have been great 427 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: and they get to thirteen and one, I think people 428 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: are gonna be like, hey, why aren't we giving Jared 429 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: Goff more MVP love. So I listen, I don't think 430 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: Jared Goff's the MVP of that team. I think he's 431 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: played really well, but I think we get a little 432 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: too fascinated by the quarterbacks. Like the running game, the 433 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: offensive lines the MVP of the team, but the I 434 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: absolutely think narratively demanse Golf takes a huge leap this weekend, 435 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: and I think Josh if he loses too in a row, 436 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: even though he was awesome obviously in the game against 437 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: the Rams, the quarterbacks wins, folks are going to start 438 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: to poke at his case. 439 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: And so that's that's where if Josh Allen wins, so 440 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: the winner of this game, you're basically saying it's probably 441 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: an MVP. 442 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to dismiss Saquan, but the other 443 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: side is correct. If Josh wins this game and it's like, Okay, 444 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: they lost to the Rams, but they scored forty two points, 445 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: they then go beat a Lions team that hasn't lost 446 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: since Week two on the longest winning streak in the league, 447 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: it would put Josh in great, great MVP position. That 448 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: that part is definitively true. All right, let's get to 449 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: the next game. 450 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: So, yeah, last year you're riding on the Eagles high 451 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: and so they all fell apart at the end of 452 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: the season there and now it seems that there are 453 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: some things going on inside of the locker room. Do 454 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: you think that a lost by your Eagles to the 455 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: to the Steelers this weekend will put you in dire straits? 456 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that they can. I don't know 457 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: that they have the organizational leadership to sustain a bad 458 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: game this weekend. I think that they have. They would 459 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: have if they didn't set a fire then poor Kerosene 460 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: on it then add other stuff to it to make 461 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: it just an inferno. And now you've got Kellen Moore 462 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: the OC having a press conference just telling the world, yes, 463 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: we are going to try to get aj Brown more involved. 464 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: That is a high priority. Like, guys, your running back 465 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: Mike is the other guy who can win MVP. You 466 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: started one and two, you're now eleven and two. Nothing's 467 00:30:53,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: wrong and now big picture. Bamani tweeted this and he 468 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: was right, and it sounded mean, and I don't think 469 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: Demands is gonna like it, which is why I said 470 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: why I'm putting it on Bomani as the tweeter because 471 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: he well, he was, which is ultimately every team Jalen 472 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: Hurts has ever been on since Channelview High School has 473 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: found itself limited by his passing. And that's just true. 474 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: It's why Alabama went to TUA of Oklahoma got the 475 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: most out of him, but it was part of the 476 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: reason they got rocked by LSU in the playoff. And 477 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: Philly finds itself there right now. Jalen Hurts is a 478 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: really good player whose biggest weakness as a player is 479 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: his pure passing ability, and it's frustrating his receivers. But 480 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: the receivers, I feel, made a massive error by not 481 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: letting that stay in house. And Brandon Graham made an 482 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: error by making it clear also by the way, yeah, 483 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Jalen and Brandon, I'm sorry, Jalen and aj don't get 484 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, they're not friends anymore, like huh? And that 485 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: also shed light on so what did happen to Philly 486 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: at the end of last year? Oh? 487 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: Was it? That? 488 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: Was it? That the best player on your offense and 489 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback who had been super tight worn anymore? So? 490 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: I just I think the Eagles defense has improved enough. 491 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: Saquan's playing well enough, they have a great offensive line, 492 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: they have so many components of an awesome team. They 493 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: should be able to sustain this, especially against the Steelers 494 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: team that isn't gonna have George Pickens this weekend. But 495 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: I'd be nervous if I were a Philly fan. 496 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 3: There's no the least problematic guy on the team except 497 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: for this. 498 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: It's Sirianni's job to to premit sometuthing like this from happening. 499 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: Howie Roseman picks the players, Vic Fangio calls the defense, 500 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: Kellen Moore calls the offense. Sirianni's job is game management, 501 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 2: not great and vibes not great. So I mean, like, 502 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that just is the truth of it. All right, 503 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: let's go to the next one. 504 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: All right. So we talked about the Rams a bunch 505 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, so we're gonna focus on the forty nine 506 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: ers here. So at the beginning of the season, everybody 507 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: was saying, you know, the forty nine Ers are supposed 508 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: to come out of the the NFC on top that 509 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: one seedon but if they. 510 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: Live, the favorite to win the Super Bowl, favorite over 511 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl the beginning of the. 512 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: Year, Yeah, So I mean, if they lose tonight, the 513 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: season's probably over, but we don't talk about them like 514 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: we talk about the Jets, the Cowboys and the Bengals. 515 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: Why is that? Yep? 516 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: So it's an interesting Now. The Jets are almost a 517 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: different story because it's been so cartoonish and they only 518 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: have three wins and they just keep blowing games, and 519 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: Roger like, that's been just a disaster. I think people 520 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: want to give the forty nine ers a pass because 521 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: of the injuries. Uh, and so I look at I 522 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: look at those four teams all differently. So let's just 523 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: deal with the meat before we get to the gambling show. 524 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: The Jets were never going to be this contender people 525 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: thought they were going to be. They had a bad 526 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: coaching situation, an aging enigmatic to use the Netflix word, quarterback, 527 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: overrated talent on offense, a mediocre offensive line. So there's 528 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: the Jets. They shouldn't be three and ten, but they 529 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: were never going to be ten and three. Set them aside. 530 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 2: The Cowboys. You saw the writing on the wall coming 531 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: this offseason when they didn't. Now, not to this level, 532 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: and I picked them to win the division, So I 533 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, I got it wrong. But now when we 534 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 2: look back, it's like Oh, they said they were all in. 535 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: They didn't do any and free agency they let all 536 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: these contract situations drag out. Then the quarterback tears his hamstring, 537 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, okay, Micah got hurt and missed time, 538 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence missed a ton of time. Quarterback tears his hamstring. 539 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: That's how it happens the Bengals, It's very very clear 540 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: what's going on there. Oh, the defense is just unplayably, 541 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: unwinnably bad, and we normally want to put it on 542 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: the stars, the quarterback or whomever. But the quarterback's playing great, 543 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: Jamar's playing great, and the defense just keeps blowing games 544 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: for them. Now. The Bengals, to me, is as disappointing 545 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: as any team in the league because this is likely 546 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: your last year with Chase and Higgins. Burrows bounced back 547 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: from the wrist injury and been unbelievable, and you're gonna 548 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: miss the playoffs. The Niners, it's just been like a 549 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 2: slow bleed. They're like Harvey Kite Tellent, not Harvey Kite 550 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: tell the guy. Harvey Kite tell is uh is trying 551 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: to make feel better in boon, not boom. Gosh darn it. 552 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this whole thing wrong in Boondocks? Is 553 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: it boon Dock Saints? What's the movie? It's not Boondock Saints? 554 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: What the great? Hold on? Hold on? I'm gonna there's 555 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 2: gonna bother me. What's the amazing Quentin Tarantino movie? Uh? 556 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: Where Harvey Kye? Tell? Uh no? No dogs? Hold on 557 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: the Reservoir Dogs? Thank you? The the Irish guy in 558 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: Reservoir Dogs. Who's just who's actually the undercover cop? Who 559 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 2: the whole movie is just slowly bleeding to death? That's 560 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: the Niners this season. It's like just a slow dramatic death. Uh. 561 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 2: And there's at any given moment it's like, oh, could 562 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: they be all right in the answer is no, And 563 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: you can't be like, oh, well, Purdy just totally went 564 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: pumpkin mode. Perty's been fine. He hasn't been good or great, 565 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 2: but he hasn't been bad. He's been fine. And at 566 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 2: various times you're like, oh, they'll be okay they lose 567 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. When they win their next two, and 568 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 2: then that three game losing streak that they just went 569 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: through getting rolled by the Packers and the Bills, you're like, oh, 570 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: their season's over. But then they crush the Bears, and 571 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: because they're only six and seven and they're not four 572 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: and nine or five and eight, they feel more alive 573 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: than they actually are. The other reason the Niners, in 574 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: my opinion, you are getting something of a pass is 575 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three. Those five 576 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: years when four of the five years you're in the 577 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 2: conference championship game, two of the five years you lose 578 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl to a dynasty, It's like, Okay, you 579 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: were due for a down year. The reason this down 580 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: years devastating for them is they're about to have to 581 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: go into a bit of a reboot. You gonna it 582 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 2: seems like they're gonna pay party. I wouldn't. They're going 583 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: to Kittle is awesome, but getting older. Trent Williams is 584 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: banged up, and old Deebo is unhappy and not as good. 585 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: Auk blew out his knee. McCaffrey, it's a lost season. 586 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: He's old for a running back, and it's like, Oh, 587 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 2: this team's gonna look way, you know, so much more different. 588 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 2: Uh next season. So I don't know. So I don't 589 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 2: know if that's the answer, but that's my diagnosis, Go ahead, demanse. 590 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 3: On the Bengals, Why is no, I don't know if 591 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: we've talked on it at all. Why is that nobody 592 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: calling for the decoordinator's job. Well, everybody's blaming on. 593 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: No. I mean the real reason is because that guy 594 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: had earned so much credit for overachieving defensively with them. 595 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: And like, I know, people get annoyed with me saying this, 596 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: but everyone associated with the Bengals has gotten more credit 597 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: for beating the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game. Then 598 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: the Rams crew got for two weeks later beating the 599 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: Bengals in the Super Bowl. And when you that lou 600 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: An Arumo, the decordinator there beat Mahomes and you know, 601 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: kind of tricked him into the worst half of football 602 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: of his entire career. Then the next year in the 603 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game had the Chiefs on the ropes again. 604 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 2: And even this year, it's like, oh man, like they 605 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: gave the Chiefs trouble. So because of that they have 606 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: earned so much credit and equity. But yeah, in any 607 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: other spot, the decordinator wouldn't have made it through the year. 608 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: And I think there there's a good chance they bring 609 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: him back next year. But it is a fascinating like 610 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: that twenty twenty one playoff run of in three straight 611 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: weeks of Bill's Chiefs thirteen second game, then Chiefs Bengals 612 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game, then Rams Bengals Super Bowl. If we 613 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: are discussing like legend and credit and who earned the 614 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: most that playoff run, honestly, it would go the biggest 615 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: winner was Josh Allen and the way we looked at 616 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: him after that because of how amazing he was in 617 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: that game and them almost beating the Chiefs. The second 618 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: biggest winner was Joe Burrow and the Bengals for actually 619 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 2: beating the Chiefs, and the bronze battlest was then Matt 620 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: Stafford and the Rams who won the Super Bowl. Like 621 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: and so it's just like, yeah, of course it should be. 622 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 2: And so it's just like a it's a really facet 623 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: but it is because and again people get annoyed with 624 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 2: me saying this because I'm a Chiefs fan, But the 625 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: all of the NFL storylines right now, just like during 626 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: the Patriots run, they rotate on the axis of Kansas City, 627 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: meaning can you beat the Chiefs in the playoffs? Have 628 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: you you know, how do you play against the Chiefs regularly? 629 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: Your quarterback is having this type of year? Is but yeah, 630 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: is he can he be as good as Mahomes like? 631 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: All the NFL storylines rotate around the Chiefs, which is 632 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: what happens when you're the team in the midst of 633 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: a dynasty. All right, right, hot gambling show, we give 634 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: you our picks. Next, what's up? Welcome back in What's 635 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 2: right with ni? Great time Now for the week fifteen? Ah, 636 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: that almost makes you sad. Gambling show. Last week another 637 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 2: week in the Green we can show you the picks. 638 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 2: Green Bay getting three and a half at Detroit. They cover. 639 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: They don't win, but they cover on Thursday night. But 640 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 2: that's why that half point matters. The Giants getting four 641 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: and a half against New Orleans. They don't win, but 642 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: they cover. I told you guys, that was too many points. 643 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: They lose fourteen eleven in that game, have a field 644 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: goal blocked at the end. What's up doing today? 645 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, no, I thought I heard something. I misheard it. 646 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, sorry that that happened. 647 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: No, No, you're good, do worry it. The I was 648 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 2: nervous watching Giants Saints because I'm like, oh no, if 649 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: the Giants make the field goal, we can go to 650 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 2: overtime and lose by six. But they're the Giants, so 651 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: they get it blocked. Tennessee minus three and a half 652 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: against Jacksonville. That was a shameful loss by the Titans. 653 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: They're up three to nothing, have third and goal from 654 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 2: inside the one, up three nothing, playing the Jags third 655 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: and goal inside the run, they go pass, pass, and 656 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: it's just awful and so and then late in the 657 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 2: game when they had a chance to steal the win, 658 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: I still wouldn't have covered. They just Calvin Ridley just 659 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: runs out of bounds on third and five instead of 660 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: getting the first down. They lose. The Rams plus four 661 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 2: and a half against Buffalo, never a doubt there. They 662 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 2: were covering basically the entire game. And the Chiefs minus 663 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: three and a half against the Chargers tough one, up 664 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: thirteen to nothing, and then they go and Andy Reid's 665 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: shutdown mode and end up needing a field goal at 666 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 2: the end to win. So I don't get my cover, 667 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: but three and two, and of course anytime touchdown Genie Cash, 668 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs minus one point fifty me and Danny gave 669 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: that to you, all right, first game of the week 670 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 2: is the Thursday night game. 671 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 3: Go ahead, you got the Rams plus three at San Francisco. 672 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this I think the Rams are on a 673 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: mission right now and recognize they control their own playoff destiny. 674 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: When they're rolling, they are as dangerous as any team 675 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: in that conference. The Niners are not nearly as good 676 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: as they looked last week. They also are not going 677 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 2: to have Trent Williams again this week, so that's a problem. 678 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,959 Speaker 2: They're not gonna have another offensive lineman, Ben BArch that's 679 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: a problem. They're not gonna have their safety Mustafa, who's 680 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: you know, the guy who plays One of the reasons 681 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 2: we've seen so much Rams because Hufanga's out. It has 682 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 2: been out. They might they probably all have Bosa, but 683 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: they might not have Bosa. Their third string running back 684 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: isaat Grendo, they might not have him. Meanwhile, the Rams, 685 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: the only guys who are we know are not playing 686 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 2: or Kobe Durant and Tyler Higbee. It's a short week. 687 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: They're the better team. They need the game. I'm getting points. 688 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't mind the LA to San Francisco travel, So 689 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 2: I like the Rams plus three. Brock Perties only covered 690 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: one of his last eight games against teams over five 691 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,959 Speaker 2: hundred and so I like the Rams in this spot. 692 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Demanse, I. 693 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 3: Love that pick. I think the Rams are gonna get 694 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 3: him tonight. I think they're gonna get them. 695 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I might put a little bit on 696 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: the Rams on the money line, but I certainly like 697 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 2: him plus three. 698 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 3: All right, Next, you got Carolina minus two and a 699 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 3: half versus Dallas. Look at that, all right? 700 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: The first time Carolina's been a favorite in thirty four games. 701 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: It's the first time Bryce has been a favorite since Alabama. 702 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 2: I think last week's loss ended the Cowboys. I think 703 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: the way it de facto eliminated from the playoffs, even 704 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 2: though they were already really eliminated, they were it was like, well, 705 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 2: if we went out, we're alive. So I think that 706 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: kills them. I think that Overshawn injury is devastating emotionally 707 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 2: and actually because he's one of their best players. Obviously, 708 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 2: Micah did you know, struggled with that loss massively. Carolina, 709 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 2: on the other hand, after beating the Saints and the Giants, 710 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 2: played the Chiefs to a field goal at the gun, 711 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: play the Bucks to overtime, and played the Eagles as 712 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: close as you can play a team when you lose 713 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: by six, had a you know, a perfect play touchdown 714 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 2: to go up one with forty seconds left that was dropped. 715 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: Carolina feels great after their loss. Dallas feels devastated, and 716 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: I do wonder if the Cowboys pack it in a bit. 717 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: You then add to the fact that this is one 718 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: of the rare spots where if you're Carolina, you're like, 719 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 2: we definitively have the better quarterback in this game, and 720 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 2: so Vegas finally had to adjust. Carolina had covered five 721 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: straight and this line opened Carolina by one and a 722 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 2: half and has just moved in their favor. But I 723 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: think Carolina is gonna win. I obviously i'd like it 724 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 2: more at one and a half than two and a half, 725 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 2: and it might get up to three by kickoff. But 726 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 2: I think Dallas is for the season. I think Carolina 727 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: has been this close to winning and I think they 728 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: break through this week. I like Carolina minus the two 729 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 2: and a half. I think they're better than the Cowboys right. 730 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: Now, first time they've been favored in thirty four games. 731 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 3: Though I sketchy back now, but yeah, Cooper Rush is 732 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 3: not good, all right? 733 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 2: This one is gonna shock America. 734 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so just a nasty game. You got the Jets 735 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: finus three at Jacksonville. 736 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: Betting on the Jets the first time in Rogers' tenure 737 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: that I'm taking the Jets in Knicks picks and I'm 738 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: laying points. And the reason for that is the Jags 739 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: right now, I know they won this past week. I 740 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 2: truly believe they're the worst team in the league. I 741 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 2: also think, as bad as right as I've been about 742 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: the Jets, they're not three and fourteen bad. They might 743 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 2: be five and twelve bad, but they're not three and 744 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: fourteen We might get the number two pick of the 745 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: draft bad. I don't think the Jets are going to 746 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 2: mail anything in because I think Aaron is still trying 747 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: to prove he deserves a job somewhere next year. So 748 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 2: the Jets had the Dolphins beat and found a way 749 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 2: to blow that game. I think the Jets actually get 750 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 2: a fairly easy victory this week so that I would 751 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: lay I'd lay four in this game if I had to. 752 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 2: I honestly think this is a twenty four to nine 753 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 2: type of victory for the New York Jets and they 754 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 2: break their God, what losing streak. Are they on six games, 755 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: seven game losing streak, whatever it is, it's mortifying. The 756 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: four game losing streak, pardon me, they were two and one, 757 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 2: so they've lost nine of ten and four in a row. 758 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 2: I think that the Jets they have too many. Garrett 759 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: Wilson's trying to prove he deserves a new contract. Aaron's 760 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 2: trying to prove he deserves this place in this league 761 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: next year. Jeff Ulbrich's trying to prove he at least 762 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 2: can be a decordinator somewhere again, because he's not gonna 763 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: be a head coach. The Jags, meanwhile, are playing out 764 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: the string with Mac Jones as the quarterback. I no 765 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 2: one has been more down on the Jets than me 766 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 2: this year. I'm three and one when I pick against 767 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: them in Knicks Picks. This is my first time picking 768 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 2: on them in Knicks Picks. I'll take the Jets minus three. 769 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 3: Yep. I can't say that I love it. I would 770 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: never bet on the Jets. 771 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 2: Listen, I would never bet on the Jets. Is a 772 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: winning gambling flow, I under but this is the rare 773 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 2: time that I'm going with it. 774 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 3: All right, Next, you've got Tampa Bay plus three at 775 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 3: the Chargers. 776 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that Tampa's better than the Chargers 777 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 2: and the Chargers this year, at some point they're gonna 778 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: have to beat a team that has a pulse. I 779 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 2: brought this up before, I'll bring it up again. Their 780 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 2: their best win to me was the Bengals win, but 781 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: we then saw the Cowboys almost beat the Bengals. They 782 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 2: did beat the Broncos, but that was early bo Knicks 783 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 2: when he was really struggling. There are other wins Raiders, 784 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: Panthers in Week two that got Bryce benched, Saints, Brown's, Titans, Falcons, 785 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: and the Falcons game they tried to lose. The Chargers 786 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 2: have not looked good the last three weeks. The Ravens 787 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: cracked them. They the Falcons gave that game away with 788 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: the four Kirk Cousins picks, and they obviously just lost 789 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. The Bucks, on the other hand, need 790 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: every game. They've won three in a row now. They 791 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: didn't look overly impressive in that Raider game, but that 792 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 2: Chargers offense right now is really struggling, and Tampa knows 793 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: if they can win this game. They then go Cowboys, Panther, 794 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: Saints to end the year and they're going to win 795 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 2: the division. They lose this game and Atlanta can retake 796 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 2: control of the division, so all of that is at 797 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 2: The Chargers, meanwhile, are in kind of an odd now 798 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 2: that they lost to the Chiefs and the pipe dream 799 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 2: of winning the division is over. They're in an odd 800 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 2: motivational space where they need to win one more game 801 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 2: the rest of the year to lock up a playoff spot. 802 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 2: And after the Bucks game it's Broncos then Patriots Raiders. 803 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 2: So the Chargers can't win the division, basically can't fall 804 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 2: out of the wild card. They just came off an 805 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 2: emotionally devastating defeat to Kansas City. I don't love how 806 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 2: they're playing. All the Chargers love playing close games, so 807 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 2: laying three points or getting three points is valuable to 808 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: me anyway. And I like how Baker's been playing, even 809 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 2: though he is turning the ball over all. Take Tampa 810 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: going east coast to West, which you know I don't love, 811 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 2: but going east coast to West Tampa getting three I 812 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 2: just think they can win. And three points is too 813 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: many points, all right? 814 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 3: Last year show you got Detroit minus two and a 815 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 3: half versus Buffalo. 816 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:57,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this this line should be four. Buffalo's listen, 817 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: Buffalo's excellent, but de Troit's better than Buffalo right now 818 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 2: and they're at home, so like if they are equivalent teams, 819 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 2: it's two and a half. And I think that Detroit 820 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: is going to be able to run the ball on Buffalo. 821 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 2: I also think that teams that have multiple quality receivers 822 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 2: can really punish the Bill's secondary. But against Detroit, you 823 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 2: have to you have to stop the run first and foremost. 824 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 2: So I think if they dedicate those guys to the run, 825 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 2: I think golf can cook a bit and if they 826 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 2: decide to play too high, they'll just run all over you. 827 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 2: And so I think Buffalo's really good. But I think 828 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 2: Detroit wins this game thirty to twenty four something like that. 829 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: And that, you know, there is also for me personally, 830 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 2: Buffalo losing this game is the ideal because then the 831 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 2: Chiefs all but lock up the one seed. But that's 832 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 2: a you know, so that's why I'm rooting for Detroit. 833 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 2: But I'm picking Detroit because I think that this line 834 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 2: should be three and a half instead of two and 835 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 2: a half. That obviously that three is the most key 836 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 2: number imaginable in this matchup, so I'll take Detroit minus 837 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 2: the two and a half. I think Golf plays really 838 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: well and gets himself firmly in the MVP top of 839 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: the MVP conversation. All right, so let's get to the 840 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 2: recap of the picks. My five picks this week, they're 841 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: all three or two and a half. The Rams catching 842 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 2: three tonight at San Francisco, Carolina, laying two and a 843 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 2: half at home against Dallas, the Jets laying three on 844 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 2: the road against Jacksonville, Tampa getting three at the Chargers, 845 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 2: and Detroit laying two and a half at home in 846 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 2: one of the games of the week, one of the 847 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: games of the year at home against Buffalo. All Right, Demons, 848 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 2: let's get to your teaser. Last week didn't. 849 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 3: Go for you. Not a good teaser. I'm sorry for 850 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 3: those that trailed me there. But I do think that 851 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 3: against I was talking to the producers, I think Caleb 852 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 3: Williams and that Bears team just I kind of look 853 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 3: at it as a as a rookie team, and if 854 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 3: they're playing anybody that has the potential to be an 855 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 3: actual team, I don't think ten points is they can 856 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 3: just get that need to be more exactly. That needed 857 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 3: to be more like fourteen. I mean, they lost by 858 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 3: more than fourteen, but that would have been I feel 859 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 3: like the smarter. 860 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 2: You have Carolina getting twenty. I mean that was they 861 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 2: damn near won the game. But then she, yeah, getting eleven. 862 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: So this week, I don't know what it is, but 863 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 2: you're going back to the three team, well three team. 864 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 3: Or yeah we're told, yeah, we're yeah, we're at plus 865 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 3: odds this week it's a three teams seven and a half. 866 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 3: I do love the seven and a half. I gotta 867 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 3: say Cleveland plus twelve versus Kansas City. We got Cincinnati 868 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 3: plus three at Tennessee, and we're teasing the Giants up 869 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 3: to twenty four against Baltimore. All right, the Giants, You're 870 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 3: an NFL team to twenty four point spread, Come on, guys. 871 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 3: And then Cincinnati obviously is playing for their life right now, 872 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 3: and it's the Titans and the Chiefs don't beat anybody 873 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 3: by more than four to five points. So that's I'm 874 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 3: feeling good. And honestly, I did think about Kansas City, 875 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 3: like with the state that they're in right now, it's 876 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to say that they're taking 877 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 3: their foot off the gas. But what if you know, 878 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 3: what if something what if something weird happens, and this 879 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 3: is the time that they you know, they blow somebody 880 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 3: out in like a I don't know, but it's Cleveland. 881 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 3: I trust. I trust Cleveland to cover a twelve point 882 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 3: spread against the Chiefs. I trust anybody to cover a 883 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 3: twelve point spread against the Chiefs. 884 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't mind the part of it. Yeah, I 885 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I hate every other piece. 886 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,439 Speaker 3: Of this, every other piece. I really Bengals plus three 887 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 3: against the Titans. 888 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 2: All right, so you have been twenty four, not crossing zero. 889 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 2: That's first of all, so you you were unable to 890 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 2: do that with Cincinnati, and Cincinnati's defense like they're they're 891 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 2: liable to lose to anybody. I understand what you're saying. 892 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: I get it, but I don't love it. And then 893 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 2: the Giants, I. 894 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 3: I, you're covering the int you start off with twenty 895 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 3: four points. 896 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: Now, I understand what the Ravens. The Ravens twice again, 897 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 2: they're pissed, they're coming off of Bye, they're angry, and 898 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 2: the Giants are hilariously bad like the and the Ravens 899 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 2: twice this year have beaten teams by more than twenty four, 900 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: and it was the bill shot in the Broncos Like, 901 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 2: I don't like this one. 902 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 3: I don't the Giant. The Giants just covered for the 903 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 3: lad I don't know who they are. Last week the 904 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 3: Giants has covered for me. I think there were plus 905 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 3: four and a half. 906 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah against against the Saints. Yeah, I had that bad 907 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: to you. I understand that, but yes I did. Playing 908 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 2: Darren Rizzy and the Saints. I listen the greade I'm getting, Okay, 909 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 2: I hope you win. I hope you win, but I 910 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 2: don't With the Chiefs game, you're not getting the key 911 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 2: numbers sends it out of You're crossing the zero and 912 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 2: you're teasing the worst team in the league. Vegas thinks 913 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 2: they they're gonna lose by seventeen, and you're like, but 914 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: they can't lose by twenty four. I just don't love it. 915 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I'd love to love it, 916 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: but I don't love it. If I'm gonna tease the 917 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 2: Giants Ravens game, I'm teasing it otherwise. 918 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 3: Down to nine, you know how the Ravens and let 919 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 3: let teams back into it. It is the Giants. 920 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 2: It's the Giants. I don't know, man, I just I can't. 921 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,919 Speaker 2: I can't do it. All right, what's the offer this week? 922 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 3: Um? Yeah, So this offer that comes from the game 923 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 3: of the week between the Bills and the Lions. Both 924 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: teams are top five and interceptions right now, and the 925 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 3: Bills are top three and fumble recoveries. So with the 926 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 3: MVP on the line, can we see the throwback? That's it? 927 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 2: This week? 928 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 3: The offer is Detroit Buffalo game to have over two 929 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 3: and a half turnovers at plus one twenty? 930 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Do you like Detroit Buffalo game to have over two 931 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 2: and a half turnovers at plus one twenty? I gotta 932 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 2: turn it down. 933 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 3: The best like plus seven three turnovers? 934 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean plus seven hundred we'd obviously take, but 935 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 2: I think it's got to be closer to like two 936 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 2: to one. So I get it that golf, you know, 937 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 2: the golf stripsack or golf, but golfs aside from the 938 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: five interception, game has been pretty good. Taking care of 939 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 2: the football, Josh Allen's been good. Now, I actually think 940 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be a well played game. I sadly 941 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 2: have to turn down the offer. All right, quick break, 942 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 2: come back answer some listener questions, then get out of here. 943 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: What's right? 944 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: All right? Welcome back in What's right with Nick? Right 945 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 2: demonse the listener Curtis It said, he knows what teams 946 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm picking face off in the Super Bowl? Who are 947 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 2: you picking right now this moment to face off in 948 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 949 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 3: I've got to be loyal and say Ravens Ravens Detroit. 950 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 3: I initially said that it was going to be Chiefs 951 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 3: Eagles again, but with the stuff that's going on with 952 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 3: the Eagles right now, I don't know I think that, 953 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 3: but I'd go Lions. I'd go Lions Chiefs for being real. 954 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 2: Right, if you had to actually put money on it, 955 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 2: you'd go Lions Chiefs, which I understand. That makes sense. 956 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 2: All right, you can now go back to I'm sorry, 957 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 2: I was for you. I wanted to ask it. 958 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so el Hayes, Hey, Nick, how's the triathlon training coming. 959 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 2: It's going pretty good. It was on the bike this morning. Again. 960 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm leaning maybe to making it a do Apple instead 961 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 2: of triathlon because I don't know that I want to 962 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 2: train the swimming that much. I just don't know how 963 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 2: much I would enjoy that. But it's going good. I 964 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 2: feel like I'm in the best shape of my life 965 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 2: right now, so yeah, I appreciate you asking, all right. 966 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 3: Next, Alex hay Nikka demands, with the rules changing this 967 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: year for Comeback Player of the Year, do you think 968 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,479 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson deserves it to be the front runner winner 969 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 3: of the award? 970 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 2: So I think the rule change hurt Russell Wilson because 971 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 2: I think they clarified it because they didn't like that 972 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 2: last year Joe Flacco won it over Tomorrow Hamlin because 973 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 2: it was like, well, you just came back from sucking, 974 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 2: So they they tweaked it to where it's like you 975 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 2: need to be coming back from like an injury or 976 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: something like that. So I think that Russell Wilson's like, 977 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 2: what's he coming back from? So I think it's wide 978 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: open because Kirk might get benched. Aaron's been awful, Like, 979 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 2: I don't know who even the front runner would be next. 980 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Grayson. If Bill's luiseh to Lamar be MVP. He beats 981 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Alan in literally every single stat and would have only 982 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 3: had one less would only have one less win, but 983 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,439 Speaker 3: with a tougher schedule and when they played head to head, 984 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 3: let's say we beat the Bills this year too. 985 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but by thirty five to ten, I he has 986 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: an argument. I and certainly, And this is why I 987 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 2: think the narrative is gonna shift to golf, because Lamar 988 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 2: has a pretty good argument versus Josh Allen. If they 989 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 2: fall to ten and four, not nearly as good of 990 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 2: an argument against golf. And right now Allen's running away 991 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 2: with it. So that's one of the reasons I think 992 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 2: golf could uh. I think golf could end up stealing 993 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 2: this award. 994 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 3: All right, Next, Horton, Kaitlyn Clark has voted Times Athlete 995 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 3: of the Year. Is she in the top five for 996 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 3: most influential US athletes? 997 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, no question about it. Also, did you 998 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: see this Kaitlyn Clark quote. So, Kaitlyn Clark did an 999 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 2: interview with Time, and she did a good job, I thought, 1000 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 2: kind of advocating for black women in the sport and 1001 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 2: doing a lot of things people had said she should 1002 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 2: have done earlier. But it was good to see her 1003 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 2: do it. She had another quote that didn't get as 1004 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 2: much attention, but is legit hilarious because she unintentionally absolutely 1005 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 2: nay palms the girls she played against in college. I'm 1006 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 2: going to read you this quote. Yeah, professional players and 1007 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: professional coaches, this is no disrespect to college women's bast 1008 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 2: baketball are a lot smarter. I love women's college basketball, 1009 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: but if you go back and watch the way people 1010 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:13,479 Speaker 2: guarded me in college, it's almost like concerning. They didn't 1011 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 2: double me, they didn't trap me. They weren't physical, and 1012 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 2: it's hard. It's college. A lot of these women will 1013 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: never go on to play another basketball game in their life. 1014 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ of understanding how the game works. 1015 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: So I completely understand it, and it's no disrespect at all. 1016 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 2: They don't have the IQ. You have to simplify it 1017 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 2: for girls at that age. Geez, absolutely naked rude. But 1018 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be rude. But these ladies were 1019 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 2: dumb and are not going to be playing basketball much longer. 1020 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: Torches them. Oh my god, it was unbelo So you 1021 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 2: know women's college basketball. Me and your sisters and your 1022 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 2: mom went to the double head head at Barclays and 1023 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 2: Paige Beckers, who's either the best or the second best 1024 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 2: player in the sport, gave Deanna fist bump and she 1025 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: was over the moon. I know is living quite the life, 1026 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 2: but uh, and and by the way, one women's college 1027 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 2: basketball note, I understand UCLA is the number one team 1028 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 2: in the country. Oh, you should hold on a second here, 1029 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 2: that's a good idea, Nick, Ucla women's basketball. Let me 1030 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 2: when does UCLA play USC? So they owe final game 1031 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 2: of the regular season. They're at USC February thirteenth, and 1032 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 2: they host USC March first. All if you have any interest, demonse, 1033 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 2: all hits you good tickets to either of those games. 1034 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 3: I'd love to. So, yeah, this year, what day is 1035 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 3: it fall? I think the seventh, Okay. 1036 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 2: Maybe the ninth. I should know the February ninth. 1037 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 3: So, but i'd love so. 1038 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 2: UCLA is the number one team in the country. The 1039 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 2: reason I even thought of it is because I watched 1040 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 2: Yukon and I'm like, listen, I haven't watched UCLA women 1041 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 2: yet this year. I don't know how any team is 1042 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 2: possibly better than Yukon. Yukon was just so unbelievable. Immediately 1043 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 2: I watched the Iowa Tennessee game before that game was awesome. 1044 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 2: Yukon came out looked like they were playing a different sport. 1045 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 2: But seeing UCLA the number one team in the country, 1046 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 2: and then Juju against USC like for USC would be unbelievable. 1047 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 2: So that should be a great matchup. That'd be really, 1048 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 2: really good. So it's either February thirteenth at USC or 1049 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: March first against UCLA. All right, great show to Monday. 1050 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 2: Good job by you. I'll see everyone on TV. 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