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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease.

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Speaker 2: How does a little girl just fourteen years old end

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Speaker 2: up at Kemp Pendleton, that's a marine base in California,

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Speaker 2: in the barracks being raped? What see? I thought that

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Speaker 2: the commanding officers would make you spit, shine your shoes,

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Speaker 2: and make your bed perfectly where a dime would bounce

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Speaker 2: when they dropped on top of the bed sheets. They

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Speaker 2: didn't notice a fourteen year old girl allegedly getting raped

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Speaker 2: in the barracks at Camp Pendleton. I Nancy Grace, this

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Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here

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Speaker 2: at Fox Nation in series XEM one eleven. Right now,

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Speaker 2: I am so mad I could chew a nail and half.

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Speaker 2: I just want to get my hands on whoever allegedly

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Speaker 2: did this thing. But first of all, let's get to

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Speaker 2: the facts. Take a listen to the little girls aunt.

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Speaker 3: My name is Cassander Perez.

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Speaker 4: Please share this as a warning to the public to

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Speaker 4: not jeopardize the ongoing investigation. I will not be releasing

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Speaker 4: the name of the victim. However, I will be releasing

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Speaker 4: details to the public so he'll prevent harm and hopefully

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Speaker 4: fine others willing to share their story. My niece is

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Speaker 4: under the age of eighteen and has learning disabilities. On

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Speaker 4: June tenth, she went missing and on June twenty seventh,

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Speaker 4: she was found on Camp Pendleton.

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Speaker 2: She was found on Camp Pendleton, but that's not exactly

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Speaker 2: what happened. Take a listen now to our friends at GMA.

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Speaker 5: This case began on June thirteenth, when the San Diego

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Speaker 5: County Sheriff's Office says a woman reported her fourteen year

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Speaker 5: old granddaughter missing. The Sheriff's office as military police found

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Speaker 5: that teenager at Camp Pendleton two weeks after she disappeared

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Speaker 5: and returned her back to her family. A woman in

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Speaker 5: a TikTok video, now claiming she's the girls aunt, says

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Speaker 5: that her fourteen year old niece was raped on the

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Speaker 5: military basis.

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Speaker 6: The investigators believe a fourteen year old girl who was

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Speaker 6: found at Camp Pendleton may have been a victim of

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Speaker 6: human trafficking. The girl's family reported her missing last month

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Speaker 6: out of San Diego. Then weeks later, military police found

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Speaker 6: her at Camp Pendleton. Officers arrested a marine who is

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Speaker 6: now being investigated by human trafficking authorities. The girl's family

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Speaker 6: claims that she has learning disabilities and was sold to

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Speaker 6: a marine for that.

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Speaker 2: Last report was from Melvin Robert our friends over at

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Speaker 2: Fox eleven. A fourteen year old little girl sold for sex.

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Speaker 2: That's bad enough right there, but at a US military base.

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Speaker 2: And the question is not only did superior officers not

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Speaker 2: what notice or do anything about it? The fellow marines

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Speaker 2: did nothing when they see a little girl there in

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Speaker 2: And FYI, it's impossible under our jurisprudence to have quote

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Speaker 2: sex with a fourteen year old girl. Because a child

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Speaker 2: cannot consent to sex, that makes it rape. That's why

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Speaker 2: we have statutory rape. Like a child can't walk into

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Speaker 2: the Lamborghini outlet and buy a car, you can't buy

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Speaker 2: a home, you can't buy tobacco or booze because you

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Speaker 2: are not old enough to make that decision. Talk about

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Speaker 2: not old enough to make a decision. Now, my twins

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Speaker 2: probably would not want this out there, but they still

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Speaker 2: have their picture taken with Santa Claus whether they want

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Speaker 2: to or not. This little girl has been raped at

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Speaker 2: a marine barracks here in the US. Again, thank you

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Speaker 2: for being with us. And as distasteful as this is,

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Speaker 2: as I would tell my jurys if we turn away,

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Speaker 2: we're condoning it. We have to look at the facts

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Speaker 2: and understand what happened. Joining me an all star panel

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Speaker 2: to make sense of what we know right now. But

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Speaker 2: first I'm going to go to not only a colleague,

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Speaker 2: but who might consider to be a friend. Fox News contributor,

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Speaker 2: a former marine, author of Unbroken Bonds of Battle, Joey Jones. Joey,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for let me join in on this.

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Speaker 2: Well, you may not feel that way by the time

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Speaker 7: That's okay, Joey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I are friends. But I got to

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Speaker 2: put to you a hard question. You're a former marine,

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Speaker 2: to be a prosecutor, to be a lawyer, no matter

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Speaker 2: what happens. So let me ask you, when you first

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Speaker 7: Well, first, I reacted as the dad of a four

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Speaker 7: thought is is that were my daughter, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 7: that's just the action of a fither and and so

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Speaker 7: brings questions of its own. The other part of maybe

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Speaker 7: you've seen information, I haven't. I haven't seen anything indicating

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Speaker 7: for how long the girl was there or who other

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Speaker 7: which is that when the duty officer and the barracks

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Speaker 7: found out she was there, they brought her into the

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Speaker 7: duty hut and called PMI Military Police, who then called NCIS,

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Speaker 7: then that makes sense to me, makes sense to mely,

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Speaker 7: you know, in my mind, if I'm developing this scenario,

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Speaker 7: not any other facts. He snuck her in that night,

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Speaker 7: And that's to me, that's how I've seen scenarios like

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Speaker 7: got to think about the fact Camp Hilton is the

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Speaker 7: largest base in the Marine Corps both by land and numbers.

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Speaker 7: There's more marines there than anywhere, and civilians, Navy, other services.

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Speaker 7: There's just a bunch of people there. The reason why

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Speaker 7: we're able to put thousands of marines into a barracks

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Speaker 7: we are trained and lived by code, and we have honor,

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Speaker 7: and we have and we have an expectation to do

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Speaker 7: the right thing, and buying large hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 7: marines every year do the right thing. And this is

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Speaker 7: in no way a defense of this specific marine or

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Speaker 7: even the Marine Corps. It's to say I can't sit

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Speaker 7: because I've not seen facts that say that. What I

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Speaker 7: see here is that I know what it's like to

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Speaker 7: sneak a girlfriend into the barracks. It's not exceptionally difficult

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Speaker 7: the idea that this was lacks of daysical. I don't

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Speaker 7: see any evident supporting that unless you just don't understand

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Speaker 7: eight different entrances and exits. You're obligated to come in

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Speaker 7: The Opportunity to sneak past those is pretty prevalent. But

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Speaker 7: again it goes back to if everyone in the building

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Speaker 7: Somebody sees you do it and tells on you. And

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Speaker 7: from what I know, I don't know someone didn't see

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Speaker 7: him do it and tell on him. I just don't

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Speaker 2: You know what, Joey, I hope you're right and what

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Speaker 2: you're saying sounds more plausible because I want to believe.

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Speaker 2: My father was a VET. He fought in the World War.

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Speaker 2: He gave up a chance to rise out of poverty

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Speaker 2: with a basketball scholarship. He gave that up to fight.

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Speaker 2: So I want you to be right, very very much.

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Speaker 2: I want only the perp that allegedly raped this girl

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Speaker 2: to be responsible. I don't want to know that anyone

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Speaker 2: I'm going to believe that until I hear differently, and

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you told me what you just told me.

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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're trying to figure out what really happened to

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Speaker 2: this fourteen year old girl. Now leaked is a I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what you would call this a log book

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Speaker 2: looking right at it is the purported Barracks log book,

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Speaker 2: and it says a thirteen year old female miner is

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Speaker 2: found in rooms that is at nine to fifteen. That's

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Speaker 2: nine to fifteen in the morning. Then there's a late

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Speaker 2: So we're trying to verify this log book at what

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Speaker 2: we know. But now I want to take Elissader Moore

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Speaker 2: of the girls aunt.

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Speaker 4: She was found in the barracks by military police. She

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Speaker 4: had been sold to a soldier for sex. The military

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Speaker 4: is trying to cover it up. They're trying to cover

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Speaker 4: it up and place majority of the blame on her. However,

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Speaker 4: the reality is the whole facility allowed this to happen.

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Speaker 3: The security looked her in.

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Speaker 4: The face and allowed this man to bring a miner

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Speaker 4: Two to her age, she could not have given this consent.

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Speaker 2: I to go straight out to Joshua Ridder, famed criminal

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Speaker 2: defense attorney, former La County Deputy district attorney, partner at

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Speaker 2: El dab Ridder trial lawyers. Joshua, thank you for being

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Speaker 2: with us. Explain why this cannot be under the law

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Speaker 2: consensual sex. If that's their defense, they might as well

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me. You're absolutely right,

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Speaker 8: there is no defense to this if she's under age.

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Speaker 8: The consent is only attributed to someone who is not

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Speaker 8: a minor, you simply cannot give consent, and the audio

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Speaker 8: that we heard right then is absolutely right. If you're underage,

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Speaker 8: you cannot give consent, and it is therefore per se rate.

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Speaker 8: And so it's going to be one of the things

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Speaker 8: really difficult. And i'll put that in quote argument to

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Speaker 8: make when you're talking about a fourteen year old, this

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Speaker 8: isn't even close. When we're talking about the age of

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Speaker 8: four years below that. But it's to the point where

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Speaker 8: we start to add even further allegations for the age,

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Speaker 8: looking at when we're talking about the rape of underage individuals.

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Speaker 8: At the lower in age, the more kind of prison time,

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Speaker 2: You know, Cheryl McCollum, I only wish the defendant we'll

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Speaker 2: try to say, hey, I thought she was eighteen, because

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Speaker 2: that is the oldest defense known to man when it

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Speaker 2: comes to statutory rape. Hey, she said she was eighteen,

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Speaker 2: She had a fake ID, she whatever fill in the blank.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl Mulcom joining me, a founder and director of the

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Speaker 2: Cold Case Research Institute and now star of a hit podcast,

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Speaker 2: Zone seven. You can find her at coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl,

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Speaker 2: I only wish that say, Hey, she says she was eighteen.

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Speaker 9: You know, Nancy, you and I have a friend in

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Speaker 9: common that looks for child predators online. And the way

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Speaker 10: Well, also, Nancy, how many rules did this guy break

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Speaker 10: Let's start with all the other rules he's broken.

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Speaker 2: I want to explore what Joey Jones said. Joey Jones,

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Speaker 11: We don't know how long she was there. We just

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Speaker 11: people responsible. So is that the marine's name or do

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Speaker 11: they know the person who sold as they claim her

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Speaker 11: a learning disability, But it doesn't say that she doesn't

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Speaker 2: Well twenty one day. She was found on June twenty eight.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so they had. She could have said I was here,

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Speaker 11: by human trafficking authority. So this is not just the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's joining me right now. Allie Neil, co founder

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Speaker 2: can find it revved Upkids dot org. Allie, it's great

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Speaker 2: to talk to you again. My concern here, well, I've

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Speaker 2: got so many concerns. As a prosecutor. You don't have

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Speaker 2: If she was raped is the only concern? Was she

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Speaker 2: did that occur in a military setting there at Camp Pendleton,

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Speaker 2: Now that would be more of a civil liability, who

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Speaker 12: So I have been speculating on this for days since

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Speaker 2: Don't like speculation because I cannot introduce that into core.

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Speaker 2: If you have an educated theory, I'd like to hear that.

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Speaker 12: Okay, all right, I'll say educated theory based on what

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Speaker 12: I know about human trafficking. So let's posit that, yes,

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Speaker 2: Okay, could you slow down? What did you just say?

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Speaker 12: I said, children who have intellectual disabilities, who have developmental

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Speaker 2: Even though she's disabled. Do you think she can go online?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? Okay, I believe that she likely has some sort

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Speaker 12: because that's what they do. They fish all day, every

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Speaker 2: Looks again, could you slow down because you just said

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Speaker 2: So they figure out where you are, They get your pit,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they do relationship, and especially with a child who

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I just want to point something else out,

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Speaker 2: Finally, after two months she said, Mom, I found out

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Speaker 2: She never asked, never did. That's the level of sophistication,

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Speaker 7: Nancy.

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Speaker 2: Can I jump in for this, Joey jumping in?

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Speaker 7: the young lady was found in Marine Corps barracks, and

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Speaker 7: by all the information we have with sex trafficked and rates. Two,

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Speaker 7: there's an underlying accusation from the end the Marine Corps

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Speaker 7: or military is trying to cover it up. Everything I've

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Speaker 7: read about it, I don't see that substantiated whatsoever. But

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Speaker 7: that creates the narrative to where people start to second guest,

439
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Speaker 7: can we even trust these people that are in our backyard?

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Speaker 7: And I think that's worth discussing at some point in

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Speaker 7: the conversation.

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Speaker 12: Hold on, I don't know that I read learning disability.

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Speaker 12: I thought I read developmental disability, which to me is

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Speaker 12: a different thing. That's an intellectual I.

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Speaker 7: Read learning disability. I agree with you about.

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Speaker 2: Learning I've actually seen both. I've actually seen both Ritter,

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Speaker 2: Josh Ritter, I hear your jobing inne Yeah.

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Speaker 8: One thing that we haven't talked about, and I think

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Speaker 8: kind of fits in nicely to this part of a

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Speaker 8: discussion that we're having is one thing that really stood

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Speaker 8: out to me was the idea that the girl had

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Speaker 8: been missing for four days before her grandmother reported her.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's what I was going to say, what.

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Speaker 7: I was and then she did.

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Speaker 8: The grandmother according to the grandmother that she had previously

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Speaker 8: run away before. So I think that really gives us

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Speaker 8: an insight to kind of go along with Ali's thoughts

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Speaker 8: about was she a high risk child? Was she somebody

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Speaker 8: who is you know, like she pointed out, maybe perhaps

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Speaker 8: searching the internet, perhaps has some sort of learning, cognitive disability,

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Speaker 8: whatever you want.

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Speaker 7: To call it.

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Speaker 8: But she was also a behavioral issue to the point

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Speaker 8: that she had run away before. And it wasn't so

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Speaker 8: alarming that the grandmother's not calling within hours of her

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Speaker 8: being missing, but within days of her being missing, because

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Speaker 8: she had run away so many times before that they

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Speaker 8: were just expecting her to come back. So I thought

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Speaker 8: that was that was something that really jumped out to

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Speaker 8: me and gave I think a little bit of insight

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Speaker 8: of who this young lady may have been, not to

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Speaker 8: add any kind of excuse or defense to anything.

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Speaker 2: To me, it makes me feel worse for her. Correct

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Speaker 2: because you've got a young girl with some type of

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Speaker 2: a disability, we can't identify it.

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Speaker 1: Prime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Interesting how we're all coming from a different angle. Joey's

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Speaker 2: coming from the angle as a dad and a former marine,

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Speaker 2: Josh is a lawyer. We all have this different angle.

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Speaker 2: Mawas is a mom. Why was she gone four days

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Speaker 2: and nobody knows that she's missing? I mean, I know,

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Speaker 2: or I think I know from my twins are at

483
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Speaker 2: this exact moment. Who's jumping in? Who is it, Cheryl

484
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Speaker 2: McCollum jump.

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Speaker 9: The number of adults that filled this child is staggering.

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Speaker 9: The fact that anybody would give a perpetrator four day

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Speaker 9: head start on whatever was happening to her. They knew

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Speaker 9: she had whatever disability she may or may not have.

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Speaker 9: They knew she was freaking fourteen and out. There was

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Speaker 9: no money and no adult and no help. You've got

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Speaker 9: a child that was found on a military base. This

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Speaker 9: marine swore to protect this country that he won't protect

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Speaker 9: a child. There's a bigger issue here when we look

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Speaker 9: at the past. We've had Fort Hood a sergeant that

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Speaker 9: was penping females on that base. We've had a reserve

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Speaker 9: officer in North Carolina that was sex trafficking. We've had

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Speaker 9: Fort Lee having a prostitution ring. This is not new

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Speaker 9: to us when it comes to the military basis. And

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Speaker 9: to me, you've got a perpetrator online, You've got a

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Speaker 9: perpetrator that bought her. You've got somebody at a front

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Speaker 9: gate that allowed her in Post nine to eleven, did

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Speaker 9: not id her.

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Speaker 3: We've got all.

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Speaker 7: Kinds of problems that hell car, we don't know him.

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Speaker 7: That gate, we don't know that. And you can't search

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Speaker 7: every single car that comes on base when the person

507
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Speaker 7: driving it has a military ID. If you want to

508
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 7: get ready to pay millions and billions more in taxes,

509
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Speaker 7: have higher security at these bases and ultimately treat the

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Speaker 7: people that live on them like prisoners.

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Speaker 2: That goes to another point, Cheryl, I think he's right,

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Speaker 2: and you're right. I mean, how many times, well every

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Speaker 2: morning did I walk into the courthouse, flash my badge

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Speaker 2: and walk around the metal detector every single morning. Why

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Speaker 2: because most adas had assistant district attorneys. We're carrying a

516
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Speaker 2: gun and no one thought you would what aunt, least

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Speaker 2: you start shooting people the same way here. Somebody comes in,

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Speaker 2: You've seen the person a million times, they show their

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Speaker 2: military idea, You wave them in. How would you know

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Speaker 2: to check their trunt or to check the back seat?

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Speaker 2: Even guys. Take a listen to our cut to our

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Speaker 2: friends at NBC seven.

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Speaker 13: Somehow between the busy comings and goings at Camp Pendleton,

524
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Speaker 13: Sondra Perez says her underaged knees with a learning disability

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Speaker 13: was found in the Marine Barris.

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Speaker 4: The security looked her in the face and allowed this

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Speaker 4: man to bring a miner onto Base two. To her age,

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Speaker 4: she could not have given this consent. Some of my

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Speaker 4: family is scared, but I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Why would she feel scared? Does she feel scared? And

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Speaker 2: then you have the legal issue that probative or does

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Speaker 2: it prove something issue of actual records? Take a listen

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Speaker 2: to hour cut sea our friends at crime online dot com.

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Speaker 14: The teens aunt claimed that the girl was sold to

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Speaker 14: the marine for sex by someone she met online that

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Speaker 14: has yet to be confirmed, and while the marine was questioned.

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Speaker 14: He has been released. No charges have been filed yet.

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Speaker 14: The New York Post has posted what looks like a

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Speaker 14: duty log for the Marine Barracks. Some of the entries

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Speaker 14: read as follows. Eight ten d n z O. D

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Speaker 14: NZO means duty non commissioned officers. Barracks contractor works on

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Speaker 14: fixing launder rooms. Third deck washer zero eight forty d

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Speaker 14: NCO goes to battalion to replace old master key zero

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Speaker 14: nine fifteen. Thirteen year old female minor found in room

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Speaker 14: zero nine sixteen. The barracks manager is notified if possible

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Speaker 14: underage female in room zero nine thirty PMO. The Provost

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Speaker 14: Marshall's office arrives to building zero nine forty five. DNCO

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Speaker 14: opens room. PMO escorts miners to duty hut. Zero nine

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Speaker 14: fifty one PMO enters duty hut to speak to minor.

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Speaker 14: Zero nine fifty seven PMO steps off the deck. The

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Speaker 14: miner remains inside duty hut with DNCO nine ten late entry,

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Speaker 14: no positive idea available. Ten fifty three PMO steps off

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Speaker 14: the deck. Minor remains in duty hut with DNZO.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, Joey Jones, what is a duty hut?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? So I just want to lay out a couple

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Speaker 7: of things here really quickly. That's the duty non commissioned officer,

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Speaker 7: one person of a rank of E five or E

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Speaker 7: six sometimes higher, is appointed by the hour for shifts,

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Speaker 7: but twenty four hours a day to be the person

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Speaker 7: in charge of securing the Marines in the barracks, in

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Speaker 7: other words, making sure they know what's happening in the barriers. Now,

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Speaker 7: I want people to think about this for a minute.

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Speaker 7: These barracks have eighteen to twenty four year olds that

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Speaker 7: have put through boot camp and had a lot of

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Speaker 7: faith and trusted in them in the Marine Corps especially.

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Speaker 7: And when people start talking about, well, this is a

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Speaker 7: huge problem in the military and we need to have

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Speaker 7: a more secure barracks, well, listen. The difference between these

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Speaker 7: eighteen to twenty four year olds and your kids that

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Speaker 7: are eighteen to twenty four year old is that we

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Speaker 7: entrust these eighteen to twenty four year olds with making

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Speaker 7: the most important decisions at the lowest level. That is

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Speaker 7: the only way we have ever won a war and

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Speaker 7: the only way we ever will. So the gap in

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Speaker 7: the military here is are we still doing that? Are

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Speaker 7: we still creating the type of men and women out

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Speaker 7: of these kids we send to boot camp that we need.

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Speaker 7: That's a legitimate question. But to say that we need

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Speaker 7: more security on military basis or in barracks is a misnomer,

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Speaker 7: and it's from a place of inexperience and understand that,

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Speaker 7: but it's certainly not the answer. We don't have maximum

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Speaker 7: security at the barracks for a reason because if we

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Speaker 7: can't trust those men and women in those barracks to

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Speaker 7: do the most simple things that are decent and ethical

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Speaker 7: and moral, then we can't trust them the fight of

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Speaker 7: war and the entire premise of that place existing is

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Speaker 7: no longer on the table. And so what's difficult for

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Speaker 7: me to sit and listen to is pontificating on what

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Speaker 7: security at the Marine Corps base is if you don't

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Speaker 7: already understand it and the and the ethos behind it.

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Speaker 7: What we can talk about is a severe lack in

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Speaker 7: leadership across the board that is not creating eighteen to

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Speaker 7: twenty year olds that wouldn't do something as atrocious as this,

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Speaker 7: And that's I think a more important part of this.

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Speaker 7: Also the family saying that there's a conspiracy to cover

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Speaker 7: up Nancy. I don't know about you, I've never seen

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Speaker 7: a conspiracy to cover up where the authority that would

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Speaker 7: want to cover it up.

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Speaker 5: I e.

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Speaker 7: The Marine Corps and by ten NCIS and local authorities.

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Speaker 7: So I think there's a little bit of holes in

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Speaker 7: that part of it too.

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Speaker 12: You mentioned earlier, Joey, that there are thousands of civilians

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Speaker 12: on this base as well. Who's to say one of

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Speaker 12: them isn't the trafficker and had account with girl around

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Speaker 12: to multiple people and this one marine was the last

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Speaker 12: one to have her and he got caught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to point out that, first of all,

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Speaker 2: you're right, we don't know when she got there. Did

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Speaker 2: she get there the night before, did she get there

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Speaker 2: an hour before? We don't know that. And both you

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Speaker 2: I think that's Alie Neil speaking and Joey Jones are right.

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Speaker 2: We don't know how long she had been there, so

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Speaker 2: that we can't rely on the two week period. Who

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Speaker 2: took her, how did she get there, how long had

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Speaker 2: she been there? We do know she's there and someone

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Speaker 2: reported her. Someone reported her to the duty officer because

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Speaker 2: at nine sixteen the barracks manager is notified I'm a

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Speaker 2: possible underage female in room. So somebody noticed it and

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Speaker 2: somebody did say this is wrong, I'm reporting it. So

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Speaker 2: where do we go from here? Take a US at

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Speaker 2: our cut nine, the ant speaking out.

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Speaker 4: We've just had an interview with someone referred to us

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Speaker 4: by the military. In this meeting, we were told by

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Speaker 4: the affiliated personnel that the military detective assigned to the

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Speaker 4: case is trying to cover this up. As you can imagine,

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Speaker 4: this is upsetting and absolutely unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: I have the lead detective's name and.

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Speaker 4: Phone number, and we'll be releasing it to the public

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Speaker 4: pending confirmation from our attorney. Our hope in doing so

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Speaker 4: is to both bring attention to my niece's case and

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Speaker 4: to ensure that this does not go away upon release

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Speaker 4: of more details.

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Speaker 2: Again, we have no evidence that anyone is taking part

635
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Speaker 2: in a cover up, and right now I'm more concerned

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Speaker 2: about finding out was the girl raped. Take a US

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Speaker 2: at our cut a our friends from crime Online.

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Speaker 14: A fourteen year old girl was reported missing to the

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Speaker 14: San Diego County Sheriff's Department four days after she disappeared

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Speaker 14: from her Spring Valley home. The girl went missing on

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Speaker 14: June ninth. Her grandmother called to least June thirteenth, a

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Speaker 14: deputy with the Rancho San Diego Sheriff Station responded that

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Speaker 14: same day, the girl's information was entered into multiple missing

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Speaker 14: person databases. The San Diego Sheriff's Office says entering the

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Speaker 14: information into databases let other law enforcement agencies know about

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Speaker 14: her disappearance. Family protection detailed. Detectives continued working on the case,

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Speaker 14: following up on potential leads. On June twenty eight, military

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Speaker 14: police discovered the team at Camp Pimpleton and informed the

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Speaker 14: Sheriff's Department and Moore and could be The team was

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Speaker 14: discovered inside the barracks by military police, almost twenty days

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Speaker 14: after she disappeared. So the question almost everyone's mind is

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Speaker 14: how how did she get on base? How did she

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Speaker 14: stay on base? How did no one see her or

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Speaker 14: report her? Visitors to Camp Pimpleton, like all military bases,

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Speaker 14: are stopped at the entrance. Visitors are required to show

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Speaker 14: authorization to enter. Marines are allowed to bring visitors on

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Speaker 14: base and even into the barracks until a certain hour.

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Speaker 14: The time allot is different in each building. The barracks

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Speaker 14: are a combination of common areas and individuals. Single Junior

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Speaker 14: Marines are generally assigned to share a room with at

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Speaker 14: least one other marine. Inside the rooms are most things

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Speaker 14: you would find in an apartment or a dorm room.

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Speaker 14: Two single beds, a small refrigerator, eating area, secretary desk, closet,

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Speaker 14: and walllockers. The common areas have pool tables and TVs.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like what you saw in the movie

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Speaker 2: Stripes with Bill Murray, where there's a lot of bunk beds.

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Speaker 2: This sounds more like a dorm setting. And in a

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Speaker 2: dorm setting where you've got two beds in each room,

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Speaker 2: it would be easier to hide an unauthorized visitor. Alie O'Neil,

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Speaker 2: co founder executive director of REVD up Kids. How do

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Speaker 2: you help a child that has some sort of a

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Speaker 2: disability relate what happened to them? How she got into

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Speaker 2: Camp Pendleton? How long had she been there? Was she

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Speaker 2: raped there? Because we know the guy that was arrested

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Speaker 2: has been released, I'm certain.

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Speaker 12: That they are doing forensic interviewing, and I know that

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Speaker 12: doctor Andrew would probably say that if she was raped,

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Speaker 12: if she was trafficked, if it was multiple perpetrators, we

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Speaker 12: don't know any of this. It's going to take a

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Speaker 12: lot of therapy to get her through this. And again

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Speaker 12: I don't know that her learning disability is the crux

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Speaker 12: of this. It's just another layer.

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Speaker 7: There are a lot of very high.

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Speaker 12: Functioning young girls who are lured by mastermind criminal traffickers online,

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Speaker 12: so and in person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I'm just trying to figure out.

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Speaker 2: Having dealt with child rape victims, and several of them

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Speaker 2: did have disabilities, sometimes it's very difficult for them to

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Speaker 2: explain verbally what happened to them. Alexis Tereschuk, Clime online

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Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter. Where does the case stand right now?

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Speaker 11: Well, the case is the marine has been released and

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Speaker 11: there he had not been charged with a crime yet.

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Speaker 11: But the girl, according to the ant, has told the

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Speaker 11: ant she was raped. That is what the end is saying.

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Speaker 11: So we are waiting to find out if they're going

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Speaker 11: to be any charge as filed by the local police,

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Speaker 11: if the military will take the action because it happened

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Speaker 11: on their base and they have that jurisdiction.

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Speaker 2: If you have information or think you have information, please

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Speaker 2: dial the tip line six nine five three one two

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Speaker 2: four six eight repeat six nine five three one two

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Speaker 2: four six eight. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, Send