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Speaker 1: The Volume, What is going on everybody?

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast, Little Wednesday Edition. We

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Speaker 2: just had a little breaking news. Justin Herbert signs a

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Speaker 2: massive amount of money. I think over two hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty million, one hundred and eighty five guaranteed more money

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Speaker 2: than Lamar or Jalen Hurts. We will dive into all

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Speaker 2: that as well as Brock Purdy is ready to roll

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Speaker 2: some holdouts. Zach Martin, Bosa Saquon signs a contract really

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Speaker 2: the only contract he could sign because he was franchise tag.

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Speaker 2: two years ago, after Justin Herbert's second season, that I

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Speaker 2: talked to multiple NFL teams and one thing you do

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Speaker 2: as a personnel department is we talk about it a

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Speaker 2: lot in the draft, like we grade every guy regardless

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Speaker 2: of where we're picking and what positions we need. It's

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Speaker 2: no different in the NFL. When the season ends, at

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Speaker 2: least by the combine, you have every player graded in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, from the Homes to Saquon to Brady to

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Speaker 2: random practice squad guys. Every team, every guy has an

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Speaker 2: updated grade based on that season, and then you can

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Speaker 2: go by position your highest graded guys. And I remember

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Speaker 2: talking to multiple teams who are pretty well run playoff

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Speaker 2: level squads and they both had Justin Herbert as a

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Speaker 2: top five player. Now that was the season remember when

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Speaker 2: the Raiders beat him in Week seventeen and the Chargers

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Speaker 2: didn't get in the playoffs. We're screaming, Gott, he should

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Speaker 2: play for a tie just so they both get in.

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Speaker 2: And then, justin Herbert last year, another fantastic season. They're

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Speaker 2: the the Jacksonville Jacks. But I think it's clear, and

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Speaker 2: it's been clear from very early on his rookie season,

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Speaker 2: this guy's a star and he's the total package. We've

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Speaker 2: all watched bits and pieces of the quarterback documentary. We

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Speaker 2: need a lot out of that position. Obviously, the physical characteristics,

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Speaker 2: there is nothing physically that he can't do, and honestly

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Speaker 2: But it's one two. It's Bro Herbert and really one

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Speaker 2: a team. They just have a better operation. Herbert's dealing

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Speaker 2: I'm not comparing him to Mahomes in terms of complete player,

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Speaker 2: I said with the Quarterback documentary, you need the physical characteristics,

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Speaker 2: then you need the intangible stuff, and he clearly has

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Speaker 2: all that. The knock on him was he was kind

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Speaker 2: So the Chargers now go from Drew Brees to Philip

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Speaker 2: I also think this contract, who now gets slightly more guaranteed,

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Speaker 2: There will be a two hundred million dollar guaranteed quarterback

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Speaker 2: Klay Thompson. A couple of years ago his max contract

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Speaker 2: think from a big picture standpoint, it put pressure on

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Speaker 2: your team talent wise is stacked, Your quarterback is a

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Speaker 3: Just watch the games.

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Speaker 2: I know you can't call gms and coaches they all

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Speaker 2: think he's a stud. They don't just think that about

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Speaker 2: any money he is. He's really really good. He's the

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Speaker 2: Chargers got lucky. Dean Spano cut a big check. He

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Speaker 2: not acceptable this year. And when you pay quarterbacks this

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Speaker 2: fire players, you fire coaches. So Brandon Staley to me,

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Speaker 2: He's easily one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: I completely understand would have done the same thing as well.

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Speaker 2: Now it's just time to win as a franchise, which

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Speaker 2: But to me, the big story is this, before Andy

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Speaker 2: There have been some outlier teams and individuals a Trent

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Speaker 2: Only the great coaches can figure it out with all

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Speaker 2: to test the limits this year because Jimmy Garoppolo, who

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Speaker 2: Is brock Purdy was better last year. Now it's a

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Speaker 2: very very small sample size the seven games, but the

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Speaker 2: with him just in general, right because Brandon Ayuk, who

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Speaker 2: is going into his fourth year, is going to need

433
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Speaker 2: a contract eventually. He's not quite on that number one

434
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Speaker 2: tier of guys. But if you're on the second tier

435
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Speaker 2: of wide receivers, let's use T Higgins as an example,

436
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: you're waving goodbye to the running backs. You're headed toward

437
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: that twenty million dollar number. You might not be a

438
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: thirty million dollar player, but you're eighteen to twenty. If

439
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: Odell is getting fifteen, you better believe the younger guys

440
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: like Ayuk's in the Higgins are thinking, you know, nineteen, twenty,

441
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: twenty one million dollars. So it's very, very hard to

442
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: build the team even if you have a cheap quarterback.

443
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Speaker 2: With one wide receiver making twenty five and another guy

444
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Speaker 2: making twenty, I don't care how you fudge the books,

445
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: and the forty nine ers are good at that. So

446
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: this is a big year for Deebo just to kind

447
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: of reflex his muscles, for the forty nine ors to

448
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: feel good about him being a franchise level player. Honestly,

449
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm a little tired of the whole running back thing,

450
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: I really am. I think it's kind of embarrassing all

451
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 2: these guys bitching a moan and are all making ten

452
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: to eleven twelve million dollars. Right if they were making

453
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Speaker 2: two million dollars, I would understand, But they act like

454
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Speaker 2: they're more deserving of everyone getting their back, like they're

455
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: royally getting screwed than linebackers, than tight ends, than guards

456
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: and centers why are they any different this notion everyone

457
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: was saying that they should get a special spot in

458
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: the salary cap. Why shouldn't guards and centers? Why shouldn't

459
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: line Why shouldn't tight ends? Running Backs are the last

460
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: position that any GM or coach would want to utilize

461
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: for the benefit of the team. They are the most

462
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: replaceable player. Austin Eckler, who got the Zoom together as

463
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: the group right literally, is a great example of an

464
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent who KO beat out and sent pack

465
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Speaker 2: in a former first round pick in Melvin Gordon said

466
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Speaker 2: I'm better than you. I'm an undrafted free agent. Get

467
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Speaker 2: the bleep out of here. That's essentially what he does

468
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: did and that's what happens constantly. And then Saquon who

469
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: signed his contract, which was the smart move, actually should

470
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Speaker 2: have signed the contract when I'm sure they offered him

471
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Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty million dollars guaranteed because now he's

472
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Speaker 2: gonna get franchise tag more than likely again next year

473
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Speaker 2: if he has a solid season, so he will have

474
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Speaker 2: two years and let's say the franchise tag next year

475
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Speaker 2: is fourteen million dollars, he'll have made twenty five million

476
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: dollars over two years, Like, that's pretty lucrative couple years

477
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: given your position, supply demand, basic economics that this is

478
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: not fantasy football, this is not Madden. This is a

479
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: business with a salary cap. You have to build your team.

480
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: The reason you pay Trent Williams or any elite offensive

481
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Speaker 2: tackle right big time money because they're very hard to replace.

482
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Speaker 2: If you lose Trent Williams, if you lose Lane Johnson,

483
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Speaker 2: you're not finding their replacement. They don't exist. Walk around society,

484
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Speaker 2: New York, La fuck go International. Tell me how many

485
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: six ' five, three hundred plus pounders with running back

486
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Speaker 2: feet you're gonna find on this planet. I'll find a

487
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Speaker 2: ton of guys five to eleven, big time athletes that

488
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: are strong, right, you just will. And there aren't many

489
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Speaker 2: guys that can throw for five thousand yards. So why

490
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks make so much money?

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Speaker 3: Right?

492
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Speaker 2: If there were less running backs, Saquon Barkley wasn't a

493
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Speaker 2: dime a dozen. And I know he's better than most,

494
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Speaker 2: but the difference of him and some random running back

495
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: right now at a camp that's going to become the

496
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: next Isaiah Pacheco isn't very wide. And do you know

497
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: what the Chiefs are paying Isaiah Pacheco the league minimum.

498
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: So it's like, would you rather have Isaiah Pachaco making

499
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Speaker 2: eight hundred grand or Saquon making eleven? Because I'll tell

500
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Speaker 2: you this, I'll take Isaiah Pacheco and then the ability

501
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: to fill in my team with three other players, and

502
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: then I'll just have a better team. Why, it's a

503
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: team game. This isn't golf. I'm not just trying to

504
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: find Rory or Brooks Koepka. This isn't tennis. This is

505
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: a team game. And there are several positions pass rusher, tackle,

506
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 2: quarterback that are infinitely more valuable by a wide gap

507
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Speaker 2: than running back, which is arguably at the bottom of

508
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Speaker 2: the list. But this notion that they're getting screwed anymore

509
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: than tight ends. Isn't Travis kelce making twelve thirteen million

510
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 2: dollars a year. What does Travis kelcey have in common

511
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Speaker 2: with Nick Chubb or Saquon Barkley or Austin Eckler. Not

512
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: much been doing it a lot longer at the highest

513
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: level in the biggest games. I just I don't hear

514
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: him bitching and moaning. So this notion of these zoom

515
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: calls of their getting screwed any more than a guard

516
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: tell you who's getting screwed. Zach Martin, Hall of Famer,

517
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: one of the best players of his generation, wants more money,

518
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: deserves it, like Saquon is making more than him.

519
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: How does that make any sense? It doesn't.

520
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: So this it's never gonna change. They constantly like scream

521
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: at the fans and the media like your coach and

522
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: your GM view as widgets that they just do. They're

523
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: the people who don't value the decision makers, right, it's them.

524
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: They are the people, and they're the most important people

525
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: in your building because they choose who to pay us,

526
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: people that talk about it for a living, your fan base.

527
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: They have zero pull, absolutely none. Now, obviously there is

528
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: a variable with the Giants with Daniel Jones, but like

529
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: we said earlier, he plays the most important position. So

530
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: is he overpaid? Of course he is. Was he way

531
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: harder to replace than saquone percent. So I give Saquon

532
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: credit for realizing, like, what are we doing? This contract

533
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: can't change because we can't extend because of the rules.

534
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: Sign the deal, get a little upfront, just show up

535
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: and ball, and the next year you probably get franchised again.

536
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: I give the Giants credit for not capitulating, for doing

537
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: good business, because this is good business. Daniel Jones pretty

538
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: risky business. I'm not gonna call it bad business. Because

539
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones, they win nine ten games, he has

540
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: another season like he.

541
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Speaker 3: Did last year.

542
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, Like that's just is it? Is it

543
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: worth a little more than you would have liked to pay,

544
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: of course, But as we see all around the league,

545
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: like the Vikings are gonna find this out, Cole's cash

546
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: baby if Kirk cuz they just let him walk and

547
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: he disappears next year, who are they replacing him with?

548
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: Who's playing quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings next year? Cousin's

549
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: got some flaws, but good luck upgrading that you saw

550
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: depending on who your favorite team is. The pupp list

551
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: all over the NFL, and you saw guys like Jonathan Taylor,

552
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: Von Miller, Tron Armstead and a ton of guys are

553
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: on the list. It's why it was a big story

554
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: when Brock Purty avoided it. And you know, every team

555
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: every year goes, we feel good, he should be back soon,

556
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: and sometimes they will. I saw headline Jonathan Taylor might

557
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: only be on it a couple days and then they

558
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: are just guys that never find their way off of it,

559
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they miss all of

560
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: training camp and then the season starts and they're on

561
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: it for six weeks, and it's like, God, I didn't

562
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: think the injury was that serious. And to me, anytime

563
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: a guy starts a season or a training camp on

564
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: the pup list, I'm just nervous.

565
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's the end all be all.

566
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's never gonna play all season, but

567
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: we see it time and time again that those guys

568
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: never actually come back. And some guys, you know, right

569
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: like Tron Armstead, the tackle for Miami, he's always hurt.

570
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: So what's going to happen this season? He's gonna be injured.

571
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: So I'm not even counting that one. But Von Miller,

572
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: for example, major injury last year. Now, he's a veteran player,

573
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you're taking it easy, but until he

574
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: can have like a week of practice with no knee swelling,

575
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: like I'd be nervous if I was a Bills fan.

576
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he's not gonna play this season, doesn't mean

577
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be good, but until guys

578
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: start practicing. Especially this is not nineteen fifty eight Bear

579
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: Bryant double days. Practices for NFL standards historically pretty easy.

580
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: There's no tackling to the ground. It is one practice

581
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: a day, and honestly, there's just three practices in a row,

582
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: and then there's an off day that's mandatory by the league.

583
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: So let's just something to keep an eye on the

584
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: pup list. And then there are good times like j C. Horn,

585
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 2: former high pick, missed all of OTA's because he had

586
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: an injury, avoids it and he's ready to go for

587
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: training camp. Like to me, anytime a guy was injured

588
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: in OTAs is able to avoid popp and come back

589
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: ready to roll, it's great. And then, clearly we talked

590
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: about it yesterday. You have those instances of guys getting hurt.

591
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: You just kind of hope it's not that big a deal.

592
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams who it doesn't necessarily matter because he's going

593
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: to miss those games for gambling, you know, tweak something

594
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: is going to miss a couple of days. And then

595
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: you have Tony with the Chiefs who tweaks a knee

596
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: return to punt. All of a sudden, he's surgery, so

597
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: you just it's just the time. You kind of keep

598
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: your fingers crossed, you hold on for your ass. Not

599
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: a big deal if a guy's got to miss a

600
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: couple weeks, especially a veteran player, a guy that you've

601
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: seen produce. But sometimes a couple of weeks can turn

602
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: into a month and then all of a sudden, you

603
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: know you don't feel he's quite ready for week one.

604
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: So it's just what makes his sport so difficult. Is

605
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: why depth is important. And it gets back to the

606
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: running back thing. When you overpay certain positions, they better

607
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: produce at the highest level because if they don't, it

608
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: does limit your depth as a team. A couple other

609
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: news and notes, like I said Zach Martin, this running

610
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: back thing, like what about a guy like this, future

611
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, one of the best players in the league,

612
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: just if you put it in a vacuum. Obviously, guard

613
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: is on the lower end of the tiers of importance

614
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: because the way you have to look at a football

615
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 2: team is there is just a hierarchy of importance, starting

616
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: with quarterback. You could argue left tackle or just tackle

617
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: in general. I want my right tackle to be good too,

618
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: and so many sweet pass rushers now line up over

619
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: the right. Howard Mudd used to always tell me, why

620
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: do you keep saying left tackle, right tackle? What's the difference?

621
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: He's like, when I was with the Colts, we had

622
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: Dwight Freeney on one end and Robert Matthis on the other.

623
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: So your left tackle is good and your right tackles thinks,

624
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: good luck, you're gonna get your quarterback killed. So tackles

625
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: pass rushers quarterbacks, and then I think we can argue

626
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people say corners. I'd argue detackle because

627
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 2: if I have a sweet defensive end, sweet de tackles,

628
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: sweet defensive line, I can kind of get by. The

629
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers made the conference championship a couple of

630
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: years ago with Josh Norman, who's slower than me, and

631
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: you why because their pass rush was dominant. Now, does

632
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: it help to have good corners, of course? Do you

633
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: want lockdown guys, Yes, but I'd love to have Deon

634
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Sanders and Dreul Reeves in their prime, of course. But

635
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's going to be very, very

636
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: difficult to get those guys because you either got to

637
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: pay a lot and they don't really come in free agency,

638
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: and you got to trade a lot for them, ie

639
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: what the Rams did to get Jalen Ramsey.

640
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: And there aren't really I'd argue.

641
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: There's a short list of quote unquote elite corners, and

642
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: depending on what your defense is, you might not play

643
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: a lot of man demand defense. It might be more

644
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: of a zone defense. And then you need a specific

645
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: type player like a Richard Sherman. And the only reason

646
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers were able to get him the

647
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: one years because he was coming off of torn Achilles right.

648
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Otherwise he Seattle wouldn't have got rid of him. So

649
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: once you get an elite corner, they don't really become available.

650
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: So Zach Martin, I think the Cowboys don't have a choice,

651
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: partly because if you're Zach Martin, go however long. I've

652
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: been here right a decade, kicking ass, taking names. You

653
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: pay Diggs's brother, I always get a mixed up. So

654
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: we got Stephan and we got Trayvon. Trayvon's on the Cowboys,

655
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: and he a couple of years ago had that year

656
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: right whatever, many picks good player, and they gave ninety

657
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: seven million dollars. I don't have the guaranteed money, but

658
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: I'd guess forty fifty million. They gave a lot of cash,

659
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: and the average per year, which I think could be

660
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: a little overrated. But when a guy like this, who

661
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: they clearly like, ain't going anywhere for a while, average

662
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: is close to twenty four million dollars a season. If

663
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: you are or excuse me, twenty million dollars a season

664
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: might be like nineteen to five if you're if you're Martin,

665
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: you're like, uh, you know, I don't need twenty million dollars,

666
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: but i'd like about fifteen to eighteen. We got to

667
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: do something with this contract. I ain't showing up till

668
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: we figure this thing out. So they got they got

669
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a problem on their hands. You

670
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: got to take care of what's in front of you.

671
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: But this problem I don't think is going to go away.

672
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, I'll give him credit on this one because

673
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: I've been critical of just as common about four thousand yards. Like, bro,

674
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: just walk before you run, right, Just let's just have

675
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: a little success before you start making proclamations about what's

676
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: going to happen. I do think it's a good idea.

677
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: The Netflix Quarterback Show got you know whatever, renewed and

678
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna do it again this season, and they're trying

679
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: to find quarterbacks and one of the first quarterbacks they

680
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: went to smart move right, get a young guy kind

681
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: of polarizing.

682
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: In justin fields.

683
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: He turned him down, and who knows, maybe he could

684
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: have a breakout season and that would be an awesome storyline,

685
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: or it could go the other way in general, when

686
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: you're in his position and you haven't proven shit, and

687
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: let's face it, the GM and the coach did not

688
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: draft you that if this season does not go well,

689
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: there's a decent chance you might not be on the

690
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: team next year. I think the move is just one

691
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: hundred percent focus on yourself. Nothing external that you can control,

692
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: anything that you can control, avoid it. And I think

693
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: he made the right to say on this, Like to me,

694
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: a guy like one reason it was smart for Mahomes

695
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: to do it. How often you get the opportunity to

696
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: document something like that in the middle of a Hall

697
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: of Fame career, Like to me, Joe Burrow should be

698
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: all over that, right. But I do think it's going

699
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: to be harder to find the Mariota type, you know,

700
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: I mean, are you going to get like I don't

701
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: even know a Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold that type guy.

702
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: But Zach Wilson, the Jets would never even allow him

703
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: to do that. But how do you find?

704
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: You know?

705
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Really, who are the Cousins, right, Dak or excuse Dak Prescott,

706
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy would never do it. Hard

707
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 2: time seeing Dak do it might be a little more

708
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: difficult getting guys to do it. Then then you'd think,

709
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: you know now that I'm just I hadn't really thought

710
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: much about it.

711
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: But what's the upside?

712
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: If things go sideways and if you have a down year,

713
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: people will blame you for doing it. Because ultimately Mahomes

714
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: won Super Bowl in the MVP, Cousins had a fan

715
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: fantastic year, they hosted a playoff game. Mariota's career unraveled,

716
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: but no one really cares like he's just he was

717
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: a backup before that. I do wonder if it's going

718
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: to be a little more difficult for them getting some starters,

719
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 2: though I don't think it's crazy for the Burrows, even

720
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: the Josh Allens. Jalen Hurts another guy, But it'll be

721
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: fascinating to see what three quarterbacks end up giving the

722
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: go ahead Chris Jones like Zach Martin. It gets complicated

723
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: because once you have an older player who's going on

724
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: contract three or four, they start going, I'm underpaid because

725
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: in a vacuum they are right. And Chris Jones, going

726
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: in the last year of his deal makes almost twenty

727
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: million dollars, goes, well, I'm last year, I was every

728
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: bit as good as Aaron Donald. We won Super Bowl.

729
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm the best defensive player on our team, which is

730
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: the best team in the league. Am I not a

731
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirty million dollar player?

732
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: Now?

733
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: I do think they would gladly just give him like

734
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: a one year, thirty million dollars deal, But that's not

735
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: really probably what he's looking for, right, He's looking for

736
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: like three years ninety million, probably guaranteeing sixty five seventy million.

737
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: And that's if he's willing to go short. I would

738
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: imagine he'd want like five five one fifty guarantee eighty

739
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: And I do think it gets pretty difficult. The problem

740
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: for Veach and the Chiefs is you need him because

741
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: you're in win. Now, try to go back to back,

742
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: win another Super Bowl. Just be a legendary dynasty type team.

743
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: He gives you the best opportunity to do that. But

744
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: big picture value wise, like does he have is he

745
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: more likely to only have one more year like that

746
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: or four? I think if you were betting man, you'd

747
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: probably says less likely to have like five six more

748
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: elite years, right. And could you flip him right now

749
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: for maybe a one in a two and get some

750
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: other team that'd be win to p him? You could,

751
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: I think, But is that the smart move when you're

752
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: trying to win now?

753
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: It's not.

754
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: It's kind of in a weird spot, and it's probably

755
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 2: why they haven't figured out a number because it becomes difficult.

756
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: I also think it's difficult for your locker room when

757
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: you go. Everyone knows mahomes how important he is. But

758
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: let's say we wouldn't pay Tyreek last year, so we

759
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: traded him. Kelsey, who is going to go down as

760
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: the greatest tight end in the history of the league.

761
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Is if I pay you twenty nine to thirty million dollars,

762
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: he's making less than half of what you're making. How

763
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: do I look him in the face and say this

764
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: is cool? You know, it becomes a very slippery slope.

765
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: And this is something that Belichick always thought about, was

766
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: the dynamics of his locker room when it comes to money.

767
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: Because we're all humans, I don't care what you do.

768
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: You could work in an insurance company, you can work

769
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: in any industry. The difference is a lot of times

770
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: in our different businesses. I've only worked in football and

771
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: in radio, and I just you kind of know who

772
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: makes what. I would imagine there are some businesses where

773
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: you don't really know. But I think it's natural for

774
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: humans to talk football.

775
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: You don't even need to it.

776
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: It's a public number, so you know exactly how much

777
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: people make. Well, if you're listening to this right now

778
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: and you're very, very valuable to your company, let's just

779
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: pick a number. You're making two hundred grand, and you go, God,

780
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm making a ton of money. I have a good life.

781
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: They kind of let me do my thing. It's a

782
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: win win for everybody. I probably could make maybe three

783
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: hundred if I went somewhere else, but it's pretty risky.

784
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: I just I get sweet bonuses. It's working out pretty well.

785
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: But then there's another guy who's you're equal, who gets

786
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: a contract that's worth four hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

787
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: It would just create animosity. I don't care if his

788
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: job's a little more important than you, if his job's

789
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: a little harder to find. We're human beings, we just are,

790
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: and that money, especially for us guys, is kind of

791
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: how we value our self worth, right or wrong, it's

792
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: just it is what it is. That's just a fact

793
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: for a lot of us. And in football, why you

794
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: see these guys while you see the running backs up

795
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: in arms because they value themselves with a number.

796
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: And I'm like that.

797
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm a very financially driven like I value success based

798
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: on what numbers are doing, whether it's downloads or revenue,

799
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: like those are the only thing I really care about.

800
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: And the older you get, the longer you work in

801
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: a business, if that's the way you think, it only

802
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: gets worse. Right, So I think that's an issue that

803
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: the chiefs in veach. I don't have any inside information

804
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: on this, but let's just put the piece of the

805
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: puzzle together that if Mahome is the most important, you know,

806
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: one B in one C or Chris Jones and Travis Kelcey,

807
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: Well you can't have one guy even if the position

808
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: is more value. But he's already making more money, make

809
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: almost three acts what Travis is making. That would that

810
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: could get a little weird two and a half times,

811
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't blame Travis for like going what the hell?

812
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, I can see this

813
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: coming from a mile away, Sean McVay is I guess

814
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: I was going to say his fiance they're married now

815
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: Veronica good follow on Instagram. It's pregnant and the baby

816
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: is do you know sometime give or take mid late October.

817
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: And obviously you can't always control when the baby comes,

818
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: and it could come on a weekend when they are

819
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: playing a game. And I could see this coming from

820
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: a mile away. I would assume Sean would be with

821
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: the baby, but I do think there's this percentage chance

822
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: that he would coach a game while his wife's in labor,

823
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: especially if it's in LA and then get helicoptered or

824
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: somehow get there. And I can already see this being

825
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: getting takes left and right coming out of the fucking

826
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: would work by the media elites and their takes on

827
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: life balance and some things. And listen, I'm not saying

828
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: right or wrong, And who knows, maybe the baby happens

829
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: on Tuesday.

830
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: And it doesn't even matter.

831
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: But if this thing's happening, especially on a road game,

832
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: it'd be fascinating follow And if he were to coach

833
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: the game. And I'm not saying you should do this.

834
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't have a child yet. I would assume if

835
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: I was him next to my wife, I don't think

836
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: it'd be a choice. But no, Sean McVay is kind

837
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: of addicted to football.

838
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: You never know.

839
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: You talk about a controversy you can see coming from

840
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: a mile away. Does Sean McVay coach if his wife

841
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: goes into labor? Okay, let's do a little thing we

842
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: like to call the middle Cough mail bag. The way

843
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: you get in this is easy. You slide into my

844
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: direct messages on Instagram. It's just my name at John Middlecough.

845
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: Fire in those dms. Easy to do. I will not

846
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: get to every question today. I think I'll just put

847
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: out a mail bag come Friday, just so I can

848
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: bang out some more questions. And we got some content

849
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: for you guys for the mail bag. As a Niners fan,

850
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: how concerned should we be about the Bosa situation? Do

851
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: you see this getting ugly anytime? I talked about this

852
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: earlier in the podcast. The forty nine ers pay every

853
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: player that matters, they always have. But Perrague is an

854
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: elite businessman. I mean he's he's just nosy shit. I

855
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: think him and how are two of, if not the

856
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: most dynamic money guys in the league. Now how he's

857
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: also the GM. Parrague is more in charge of like

858
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: the contracts, but he also buys the York's European soccer teams.

859
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: Like he's just a wheeler and dealer and knows money.

860
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: And they know how good Nick Bosa is. They don't

861
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: like they love Nick Bosa, but whenever they get to

862
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: whatever the number is, like with Deebo it was like

863
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: fifty five sixty million dollars, Like they're gonna argue with you.

864
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: They're going to negotiate with you, like their cutthroat that way,

865
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: if they could save five million dollars off the top line.

866
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: They know what general general you know, the general.

867
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: Area you're going. But that's the way they operate.

868
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 2: So I would imagine they're haggling over a couple million

869
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: couple here and there they're in I would imagine Nick

870
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Bosa is gonna get one hundred and twenty guaranteed. So

871
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: maybe the Niners right now are at one ten, he's

872
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: at one twenty five. They'll figure it out. But Nick

873
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 2: Bosa is not only not going anywhere of the number

874
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: going to be astronomical, it's gonna be big. So I

875
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: would not be concerned. One he's a fitness freak, and

876
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: two they've just paid every player that's mattered in my

877
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: adult life. If Derek Carr is a good season and

878
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 2: playoff success with the Saints, could we start to think

879
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: the team success isn't a quarterback stat After watching Stafford

880
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: win in La and Wilson struggle in Denver, I think

881
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: it's clear most good quarterbacks with success are products of

882
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: their surrounding. Here's a simple reality at the position. I

883
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: don't care if you're Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning and Indy

884
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: had a Hall of fame general manager who did an

885
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: incredible job of drafting skill guys around him right starting.

886
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: I think guess Mar Harrison was there when he got there,

887
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: but from Reggie Wayne to Dallas Clark to Austin Colley, like,

888
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: they always had.

889
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: Sweet players on offense.

890
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: Same thing when he got to Denver, right, they had

891
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball,

892
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: and in Denver, unlike Indy, they had really good defense.

893
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Stuff is out of your control, right, You don't get

894
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 2: to pick the players, you don't get to pick the scheme.

895
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: Really you get to influence it. But guys like Derek

896
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: Carr and Matt Stafford definitely do not. Matt Stafford went

897
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: to the playoffs three times in Detroit. Now he didn't

898
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: win a playoff game, but they had some success, right.

899
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: I think Derek he technically led the Raiders to the

900
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: playoffs twice, the one year he broke his ankle, so

901
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: he a little bit like Stafford. I think watching Stafford's career,

902
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: and Derek Stafford's a better player. But I hear you, like,

903
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: if they win twelve games and Derek throws thirty five touchdowns,

904
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: be a pretty big moment whenever this happens. Like the

905
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Lions waved the white flag, they never said Stafford stunk, right,

906
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: They knew how good he was. They just needed to

907
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: blow it up and they capitulated. When Stafford's like, I

908
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: think it's time we go our separate ways. The Derek

909
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: thing is like, we don't think you're good enough. We

910
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: don't want you here that the Lions were what's the

911
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: point of this. Let's just go our separate way. Stafford

912
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: wanted out the Derek things are true, we don't think

913
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: you're any good. So to me, I love those like Belichick.

914
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: I think you're old. Time to go a different direction,

915
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: And he was wrong. Brady was still good for a

916
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: couple of years. I don't necessarily blame Belichick, but Brady's

917
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: just an all time outlier. I mean, he's just you

918
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: would move on. For most forty three year olds, if

919
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: their name's Tom Brady, you're probably screwed. Though, question for

920
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: the pod if the Bengals decide to keep the big

921
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: three together Burrow chasing Higgins, how will that impact the

922
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: rest of their team? Would prevent them from re signing

923
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: key players like DJ Reider, Logan Wilson. What do you

924
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: think is the best route to Super Bowl? Here's the

925
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: hard part. When your best Like, I'll give you an

926
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: example for the forty nine ers, now, Burrow being a quarterback.

927
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: We just saw Herbert Like, I mean, Burrow's gonna get

928
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy million dollars and get one hundred

929
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: and ninety guaranteed, right, But the Niners are a good

930
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: example of a team that benefits from like they got

931
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: two of their best players play tight end, running back,

932
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: and even third Fred Warner linebacker. So those three guys

933
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: make like twelve fourteen and like thirteen or fourteen fifteen

934
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: million dollars. Right, Jamar Chase is going to be at

935
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: minimum of twenty eight thirty million dollar player. Higgins, what

936
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: I talked about earlier on the podcast, isn't quite on

937
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: that tier. But even in that, like iuke tier, that's

938
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: still twenty million dollars, and then Burrow is just forty

939
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: five to fifty million dollars. The problem is when you

940
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: hit on multiple wide receivers. I kind of believe you

941
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 2: have to pick one and then just build it around

942
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: a tight end, a running back and then defensively. I

943
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: don't and I understand they said it at the combine,

944
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: like people thinking that they were going to trade Higgins,

945
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: like get your.

946
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: Own wide receiver.

947
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: I don't disagree, because you want them on your squad.

948
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: It does get very hard to pay all three of them. Right, Ideally,

949
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: you would have an all pro at tight end. If

950
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: you could turn T Higgins into a tight end, you

951
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't heartbeat because you would immediately save five six million

952
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: dollars a year, and the guaranteed money would be like,

953
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: what's t higgins guaranteed money? Fifteen million dollars, but you

954
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: have to guarantee it. I mean, Travis Kelsey got a

955
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: contract since you get twenty two million dollars guaranteed. So

956
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: there's no right or wrong answer. Like, the whole point

957
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: of the draft is draft good players. The problem is

958
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: when you hit on them and they play certain positions,

959
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: they just cost more, right, And it's just that's the

960
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: reality of hitting on wide receivers. If you can afford

961
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: a Mercedes, okay, like you can make the payments or whatever.

962
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: If that Mercedes has issues, it cost everything about it

963
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: costs more then let's say the Honda Accord right or

964
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: Mike Chevy Tahoe right, you get a range rover. The

965
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: maintenance on that thing is more like once you hit

966
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: on a wide receiver. The whole point of the draft.

967
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: Every player you pick, you want to be sweet, But

968
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: when you hit on a center, it's easier to keep

969
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: that guy forever than it is. Like three wide receivers,

970
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: you usually got to pick one. Mainly when you're paying

971
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: a quarterback if you're not paying a quarterback, you got

972
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: a lot more wiggle room. But Burrow, now, Herbert Mahomes,

973
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: you really got to think about the way you build.

974
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: I've seen Colin at a couple shows doing this topic

975
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: and wanted your take on it. Historically, there are around

976
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: four to six new teams in the playoffs every year,

977
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: which also mean that around four to six. I don't

978
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: think it's four to six. I think it's like one

979
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: to two a conference. So for Max, six feels like

980
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: a lot because.

981
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Think about last year.

982
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: The Giants were new, Seattle, I guess was new, but

983
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers were in it. The Eagles were

984
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: in it the year before, the Vikings were not in it.

985
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: The Packers, so yeah, I guess maybe you're right. The

986
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs were in it, the Bills were in it, the

987
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: Bengals were in it, the Dolphins were new, so yeah, okay,

988
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: the Cowboys were in it the year before. I have

989
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: the here for six fields like a lot. I would

990
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: say the teams that would be I would red flag

991
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: this year would be would be Minnesota could take a

992
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: step back. But the more I think about them, you

993
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: watch that quarterback documentary, couldn't they still be a wild

994
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: card team. You know, the Giants, could they take a

995
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: little step back? But the NFC kind of stinks, like

996
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: could them in Washington potentially flip?

997
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 3: Maybe? But is being to me a good play caller?

998
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: Like when Andy's not around, we're about to find out

999
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: is the quarterback any good? I think the AFC could

1000
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: have some swings, right, I guess the Chargers were in at,

1001
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: the Jags were in at, the Chiefs were in at,

1002
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: the Bills were in it. We'd pick all those teams.

1003
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: The Bengals, we would pick the Ravens did not make

1004
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: the play the Ravens. The Ravens did make the playoffs, right, Yeah,

1005
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: they did with Tyler Huntley. The Steelers would be a team.

1006
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: The Browns potentially with you have Deshaun Watson as a

1007
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: bounce back year, the Denver Broncos, Sean Payton and Russell Wilson.

1008
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean, those are the teams the NFC. It's hard

1009
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: to find, Like are the Rams going to bounce back?

1010
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't see the Rams.

1011
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: I don't buy it.

1012
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: I just think they are I don't think they're good enough.

1013
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: One and two is Stafford even healthy? They are just

1014
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: so dependent on two players. We saw last year.

1015
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: Those guys get hurt. You're just screwed.

1016
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: Browns fan here. I was kind of surprised that you

1017
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 2: didn't include Stefanski in your coaches on the hot seat list.

1018
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: I know that Watson's situation has been a mess, but

1019
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: I feel like this year was a top five offensive line,

1020
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: top two or three running back, legit wide receivers, and

1021
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 2: a full year of Deshaun The excuses have pretty much

1022
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: run out. Am I right for thinking that Stefanski is

1023
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: a coach for coach, a guy coaching for his job

1024
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: and needs to make the playoffs this year. What's funny

1025
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: is when I finished it and I was thinking about it,

1026
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: I had to get Sark in there. So if I

1027
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: was going to just go an NFL list and remove Sark,

1028
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: like it's just to me Sark and Staley or just

1029
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: to places, I'm I've planted my flag for years and

1030
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: I ain't budget Stefanski.

1031
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: I kind of like I've heard.

1032
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Him on some podcasts, feels like a smart guy. I'm

1033
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: not inundated with brown stuff. Like, I know you guys

1034
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: have a diehard fan base, live and die with it.

1035
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: I checked out last year. I did not pay attention

1036
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: I want to almost say I gave you a pass

1037
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: in the year before. I mean, Baker just stinks, but

1038
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: I hear you. I think he was a guy. He

1039
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: was a strong omission that he not only could have

1040
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: been on that list, probably should have been on the list.

1041
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: And if it was NFL centric, you would just remove

1042
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: Sarkisian and put him because, like I said earlier, you

1043
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: don't fire players.

1044
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: And when you pay a.

1045
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Guy two hundred thirty million dollars, guaranteed he's not going anywhere.

1046
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, here's the problem.

1047
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: Though.

1048
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Let's say you go eight nine or nine and eight

1049
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: and you missed the playoffs, right, your eighth or ninth

1050
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: best team in the AFC, and a Shawn looks, okay,

1051
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: you're kind of screwed. You can fire Stefanski and you're

1052
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: an NFL job, so people will take your job. But

1053
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: are you telling me that that's a good job, because

1054
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: if Deshaun is for whatever reason, damage goods, that's a problem, right,

1055
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 2: It really is, because you're kind.

1056
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: Of stuck with them.

1057
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: Longtime listener, second time asking a question, is there a

1058
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: reason to believe the hype around quarterback Jeff Christensen says

1059
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: about Trey Lance, I totally understand your opinion about his

1060
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: accuracy and just overall no reps. So is there any

1061
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: reason to get into the session with Mahomes and Christensen

1062
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: also congrats on the move. I'm very hesitant with off

1063
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: season stuff just in general any sport. Right, Like I've

1064
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: completely changed my batting stance, I've completely worked on my

1065
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: jump shot, I've completely rechanged my motion. It happens a

1066
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: lot in golf, like I've made tweaks to my swing. Well,

1067
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: how's it going to work once you're playing? Because there's

1068
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: a little thing called muscle memory that I know for

1069
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: as a golfer that you can make tweaks all you want.

1070
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: I'd be like, God, I'm on the range, I'm hitting

1071
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: as good as freaking Rory McElroy, and then you get

1072
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: to hole two and the balls flying all over the place.

1073
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: Same thing with a quarterback motion, I can shorten it up.

1074
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: I can shorten up, and then the moment I get

1075
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: a pass rush, I get bodies in my face. Your

1076
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: muscle memory just kind of resorts. So if he's able

1077
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: to keep a shorter release, that will be impressive. But

1078
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: as the news came out today, brock Perty's healthy, Trey

1079
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: Lance is competing to be the backup. Now, even if

1080
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: he wins the backup job, he is not on the field,

1081
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: so I don't see the reps.

1082
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: He gets some.

1083
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: Practice reps and some preseason reps, but if perty's healthy,

1084
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: he is, he's just not going anywhere.

1085
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: Now.

1086
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: You could argue he played seven games and he got injured.

1087
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: I'd say, well, you know, some of Alance's injuries have

1088
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: been running around right his rookie year, trying to run

1089
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 2: over a guy, hurt his shoulder or hurt his knee

1090
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: against Arizona, broke his ankle last year, running like he's

1091
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: kind of in a weird way a running quarterback.

1092
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: But he's not that fast like party got hurt.

1093
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: Because Kyle Shanahan just called the terrible Tyler Croft is

1094
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: not blocking assn Reddick. That's just and I understand Kyle's

1095
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: stubborn and refuses to go, yeah, we would like that

1096
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: one back. He'll never say that, which listen, it's his prerogative,

1097
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: but he should like that was a play you would

1098
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: like to redo on. Not a Titans fan, but I'm

1099
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: a little confused on why you were down on them.

1100
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: They are the easiest sched They have one of the

1101
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: easiest schedules in the league. Last time they had a

1102
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: prominent number one wide receiver, they made it all the

1103
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: way to the championship game. They were leading the Jags

1104
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: by multiple games come to the end of the season

1105
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: before their team got hurt and they took it all

1106
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: the way to the end with Dobbs at the quarterback

1107
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: with a chance to make the playoffs against the Jacks. Obviously,

1108
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: the AFC is loaded, but do you really not see

1109
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: a chance for them These teams make the playoffs given

1110
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: the easy schedules in weak overall division. I think when

1111
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: you say a number A J. Brown in twenty twenty three,

1112
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: even you know the version of A J. Brown a

1113
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, like what they're getting in Hopkins,

1114
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: there is a wide gap like Hopkins is to me

1115
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: not even a top I know the Madden rankings had

1116
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: him really high. I think Madden had him rated higher

1117
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: than AJ Brown and I refuse to even acknowledge that.

1118
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: And I appreciate the game, but like those rankings, but

1119
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to compare a young in the

1120
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: prime AJ Brown in an older trending down Hopkins. But

1121
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: in a vacuum am I being a little hard on

1122
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: the Titans probably right, Like you said, the schedule sucks,

1123
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: the division's not that good elite coach. Even if I'm

1124
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: not a huge Tannehill fan, he's proven he can just

1125
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: kind of play an Alex Smith like role. Here's the problem.

1126
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: I think the Jags are going to be dramatically better.

1127
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence didn't really hit his stride till halfway through

1128
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: the season, right, So the Jags get Calvin Ridley, never forget,

1129
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: who's a really really good player to go with Christian

1130
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: Kirk who has proven last year everyone shit on him.

1131
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 3: Problem.

1132
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm guilty too. The contract was bad, pretty damn good,

1133
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: so to me, their passing game is going to be

1134
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: much better have young players on defense, I think it's

1135
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: more likely the Jags are like an eleven win team.

1136
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: And even if I'm too low on the Titans, and

1137
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: the Titans get to that eight to nine range, but

1138
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't think when the dust settles in December, that's

1139
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: its close because the Jags urban Myer ain't walking through

1140
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: that door. They got a guy who Outdual Belichick and

1141
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl who is the play caller, and they got

1142
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

1143
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: To me, who's really coming into his own.

1144
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: Like the way we talk about the Burrows and the

1145
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: Herberts and the Allens, like it took Allen a couple

1146
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: of years, right, Herbert and Burrow pretty quickly. Trevor Lawrence

1147
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: got Urban Meyer year one. I think by the end

1148
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: of this season, we're, oh, God, damn, Trevor Lawrence.

1149
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: Is a beast.

1150
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: That's what I expect, and Tannehill will not be on

1151
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: the team in two years. I'm sure you were tired

1152
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: of talking about the running backs, but I feel like

1153
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: it's the easiest solution for the NFLPA is trying to

1154
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: negotiate center and centers for all rookie contracts. If I'm

1155
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: a running back. If a running back hits a thousand

1156
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: yards on a rookie contract, they get one million dollars.

1157
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Mahomes throws for fifty t ds on a rookie deal bonus,

1158
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: Bosa gainst ten sacks on a rookie deal bonus. Not

1159
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: sure how it would work for offensive line, but I

1160
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: think it's the easiest fix for a guy like Philip

1161
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: Lindsay who put two thousand yard seasons but never saw

1162
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: any real money due to a short shelf life. Here's

1163
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: the problem that stuff's already negotiated. So like they just

1164
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: entered a contract as a as a players union and

1165
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: as as ownership. Like there the contract signed. Once we

1166
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: sign a deal, right, Like just bought a house, I'm

1167
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: under contract. I got the mortgage, which I gotta start

1168
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: paying in about five days. Got a double dip because

1169
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: I still got to pay for the department. I'm saying,

1170
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: because the houses are ready. Right, But that's neither here

1171
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: nor there. My point is the contract's contract, the contract

1172
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: they have that they're not amending, that they're not adding shit.

1173
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: So I hear you, and I wouldn't be against that, right,

1174
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: like if you outperform your rookie deal. But I here's

1175
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 2: what I'd argue if I was a GM the moment

1176
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: I give you a contract, especially the high end guys, right,

1177
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: I think it's fair for lower round picks that are

1178
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: making seven hundred grand. But Nick Bose has become a star.

1179
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: But he was the second pick of the draft, right

1180
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: he got a twenty two million dollars signing books. Like

1181
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: if Anthony Richardson or CJ. Stroud hit and they become

1182
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: a really good player, it's a good contract, right because

1183
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: you get a franchise quarterback, but you didn't pay him nothing.

1184
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you gave him thirty five thirty eight thirty

1185
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: seven million dollars guaranteed before they'd ever proven shit. They'd

1186
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: proven in college. But that's we've seen time and time

1187
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: again that is that's not automatically going to translate. So

1188
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: I think with the high players like Sakuon, like Bosa,

1189
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: like the I don't know man, they get paid a

1190
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: lot a lot of money for guys coming in the

1191
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: league with no track record. Now, if I was represented

1192
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: the Union, I'd say, hey, listen, when you sign a

1193
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: guy or draft a guy in the fourth round, right

1194
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: when you hit on a home run on a Kirk

1195
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: Cousins or a George Kittle or Richard Sherman type or whoever.

1196
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a million examples. You get that guy

1197
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: in a four year contract averaging about eight hundred and

1198
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: fifty grand or nine hundred grand or whatever.

1199
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: It works out to be over those four years. To me,

1200
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: they have to have an enormous incentives.

1201
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: Like if I'm a fourth rounder and I become a

1202
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: pro bowler in year two or three, to me, it

1203
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: should be like a five million dollar bonus, I should

1204
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: be paid like what.

1205
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: You're paying the first round picks.

1206
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: Like, to me, that's negotiable because that happens all the time. Right,

1207
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: You get a guard in the third round who turns

1208
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: into like a four time pro bowler and you're paying

1209
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: him seven hundred and eighty five thousand dollars in a

1210
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: second year, You're like, I don't want a deal.

1211
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: What this is? This is stealing.

1212
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: So I think that's the argument, But that's not going

1213
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: to happen anytime soon. Pretty sure they just came to

1214
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: an agreement last year for the new media deal. They're

1215
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: they're the CBA is signed, sealed, delivered. Question for the

1216
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: POD a simple one on the current trajectory. Do you

1217
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: think running backs are going the way of the fullback?

1218
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: We barely see fullbacks anymore in high schools and colleges

1219
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: aren't producing running backs in good numbers anymore. Kids are

1220
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: smart and they all want to be quarterbacks wide receivers

1221
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: in corners is where the money is. I still think

1222
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: running backs exist all over college football, but the more

1223
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: and more that the spread offense overtakes just the college

1224
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: game and definitely the high school game. I would imagine

1225
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: if you go to any good high school around the country.

1226
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years. I went to high

1227
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: school in the early two thousands, the overwhelming majority of

1228
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: high schools had an option offense, whether it be the

1229
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,959
Speaker 2: wing tea, whether it be the triple option, some sub

1230
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: moments of that. By the time I got to Fresno

1231
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: State in like eight nine, it was starting to become

1232
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: very spread happy and definitely very pass happy. In twenty

1233
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: twenty three, I would imagine the quote unquote spread in

1234
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: high school football is closer to one hundred percent than

1235
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: it is seventy. Right, So the more and more you

1236
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 2: do that, the less you develop offensive lineman. Who can

1237
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: you know our versatile player because your quarterbacks never under center.

1238
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: It's why every time we have the Senior Bowl, and

1239
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: whoever's coaching the Senior Ball looks at the quarterbacks and go,

1240
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: how many of you guys have ever been under center?

1241
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: Most of them do not raise their hand. So yeah,

1242
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: I think more and more they become these hybrid players.

1243
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: I think we get more Austin Ecklers, who, like we

1244
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: talked about earlier, was an undrafted free agent right Saquon

1245
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: special talent. They're always going to be special talents because

1246
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: these guys five to eleven six feet, they are two

1247
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty pounds that can run like the wind,

1248
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: who are just physical freaks. You want to have them

1249
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: tote the rock right. You want to get under center

1250
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: hand than the ball. But I also think like more

1251
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: and more high schools have guys that look like Austin

1252
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: Eckler physically, and if you can find those guys, it's

1253
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: that they can produce in the passing game. Just how

1254
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: many colleges, like beside Jim Harbaugh are getting under center

1255
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: and slamming it down your throat. It's kind of a

1256
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: thing going by the wayside. So the NFL is a

1257
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: product of what they're given. They don't get to determine

1258
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: what comes to them.

1259
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1260
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: If they did, every year, they would have like eight

1261
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson's and eight Nick Bosa's and five Joe Burrows.

1262
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: But that's not the case. Some years you got a

1263
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: bunch of tight ends. Right.

1264
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: The college talent determines itself right, which comes from high school.

1265
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: It actually works from the bottom up, and even schematically

1266
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: it does right. Spread really think of think of the

1267
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: college passing attacks have really or I mean, in the

1268
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: pros now that is much more of a passing league.

1269
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: I would say that was developed through the college game

1270
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: because that's what kept handing them quarterbacks who had thrown

1271
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: a lot more in their youth, who were much more

1272
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: equipped to throw the ball fifty times a game immediately,

1273
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was used to throwing the ball all the time.

1274
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: Seamless transition, not very difficult. Greetings from Ontario, Canada. This

1275
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: is my favorite pod. I appreciate you. Lizzie love the content.

1276
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: Have been a big Niners fan since the Montana days.

1277
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: Here's my question. If party doesn't bounce back from a

1278
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: surgery as hoped, the Niners will be prepared to run

1279
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Speaker 2: Darnald out there for the entire season, assuming the supply legitimate.

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Speaker 2: I don't this question. This is using his wife's Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that was a huge off season topic, Sam Donald,

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance. I think that topic dramatically was muted today

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Speaker 2: now that we have at least as of the day,

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Speaker 2: you can still you have setbacks and stuff. But until

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Speaker 2: there's a setback, we have a backup quarterback battle, and

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Speaker 2: then I think the big picture question mark is if

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald wins the job as the backup quarterback does

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance also continue to be on the team or

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Speaker 2: do they trade them and just make like Brandon Allen

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Speaker 2: their third quarterback. That that, to me, would be the

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Speaker 2: number one question if brock Perty is one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: starting week one, which all signs point to that right now,

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Speaker 2: is if Sam Donald wins the job, does Trey Lance

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Speaker 2: stay on the team? I'd say it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: I am more inclined to say a decent chance because

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Speaker 2: of this third quarterback rule, which was created because of

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Speaker 2: the nine ers right in the party situation. If that

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Speaker 2: rule didn't exist, I would say he would not be

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Speaker 2: on the team. But because of that rule and he's

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Speaker 2: a good guy, I would say, still a decent chance

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Speaker 2: they keep him because you already paid him anyway, Like

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Speaker 2: you're not unloading that salary unless a team's a little

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Speaker 2: desperate and you get like he was awesome in training

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Speaker 2: camp and maybe you get a third But even then,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't you just keep them? So it's it's a

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Speaker 2: complicated situation. It's going to be once the playing on

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Speaker 2: the field works itself out. The situation is going to

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Speaker 2: play itself out by locker dynamics. How comfortable they are party.

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Speaker 2: Does does he need do they need to get Lance

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Speaker 2: away from him? Do they feel comfortable with the two

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Speaker 2: of them being together if he's a third quarterback. So

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Speaker 2: a lot a lot of moving parts there, which you

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Speaker 2: know makes football fun, man. The quarterback controversies, even when

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Speaker 2: you have the set starter high picks, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's, the Trey Lances, the Justin fields. These topics

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Speaker 2: never die, man, They never do. Have a good weekend

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Speaker 2: and not weekend, it's the middle of the week. My bad,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. It's just football's here. All the

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Speaker 2: days are the same. Talk to everyone soon, pooce the

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Speaker 2: volume