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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm d Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of been a kind of a somber kind

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Speaker 1: And I didn't even really know Dwayne Haskins. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Haskin joining the Steelers late in the season. Um. But

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Speaker 1: this to happen just just tragic beyond explanation. Yeah, it's awful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way around it. He's only twenty

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Speaker 1: four years old. UM. Just a flukey type accident. Horrible accident.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people, as often as the case

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