WEBVTT - Greatest Reggie Miller Moments with Reggie Miller 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.680 Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.800 All Right, everybody, what a fun episode of the Greatest 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:16.919 we have for you. Sorry if I didn't do such 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.800 a warm welcome there. I'm just very very excited, very 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.799 special episode. We are still currently in our laundry nook. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.600 Everyone's still in quarantine. I think we're doing a great job. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.560 But I'm joined here by my wife, per usual, Megan 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.640 Gaily and co host Megan Gailey. You're my wife, I know, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.160 but I that's a note I've given you in past ones, 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.360 so let's just remember going forward. I would like to 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.840 be wife and co host even like when we see 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.880 people we were hanging out. When we are out in 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:53.800 the world, you do not speak of this podcast. Okay, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.120 this is only the stays within our laundry nook. This 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.320 is where our secrets live and die. This is the 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.120 podcast that we love doing and new fans every week. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.479 Shout out to all the fans who have been finding 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.440 us on on social media and saying such nice things, 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.840 and also just like giving us new topics, which is 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.960 my life, telling us when we're wrong. I love that. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.360 Tell us we're wrong. People will be like lamps Armstrong. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.840 I'm like I forgot about Lamps Armstrong. I do hate him. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:21.840 But that's the beauty of this podcast is like we 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.720 choose like three, but there's never enough time and there's 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.360 just like there's so many picks out there. So it's 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.880 like a fun debate. It's been fun for the most part. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.640 But yeah, then there's some evil people who are like, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.399 you're wrong, you shouldn't do this, you don't know anything 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:35.959 about sports, and then Megan has to tell me to 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.200 not respond to them. Well, you can't respond to them. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.080 I actually wish that you could. Oh, I'll go they 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.880 must there must have been a time when you could 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.039 respond to reviewers and then they took that away because 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.960 someone like you went crazy. Yeah, yeah, you find them 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.720 c J. How are you? How are you mentally doing? Mentally? 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.360 This week has been good. It's been busy, but it's 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.559 only taken six weeks. But I'm trying to get healthier 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.680 because boy, I got myself in a rut first few weeks. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.040 I feel like, you know, a lot of a lot 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.720 of people have said they've gained maybe a little bit 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.480 of weight, but like, you know, I wanted to enjoy 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.240 the fun aspects of Quarantine, where we just eat and 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.400 watch TV shows. But now I'm like, gotta stay a 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.680 little active, gotta keep doing work. It's busy time with 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.320 house highlights. We get the NFL draft coming up. Um, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.320 you know you're excited for that. Oh, by the time 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.560 this comes out, it'll be done. We'll know where Toua is. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.000 Is it in Miami? We kind of hope. Um, I'm 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.520 I'm doing pretty I'm doing pretty well. You know, I'm 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.160 weighing myself every day. Um, what your therapist has said, 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.360 what my therapist is said, let's keep an eye on that. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.840 And I'm not on your weight, but on your obsession 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.200 with your weight. Perhaps she also said, let's keep an 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.919 eye on my drinking and my smoking um weed not cigarettes. Okay, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.160 the lungs are good. So I think I'm doing It's beautiful, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.440 so nice out here. We are entering a heat wave 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.480 in Los Angeles, and so we have an inflatable pool 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.720 that only see J knows how to inflate and I'm 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.359 least person to want to use it. Yes, you are 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.079 horrified by it. I'm got to horrify. I'm just like, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.120 what does this do? I don't know how to inflate it. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.520 But you're kind of like my pool boy and my husband. Yeah. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.160 Another little look into our lives as a married couple 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.120 is that we're in quarantine and I like ordering stuff 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.359 from the internet. So I have made our backyard into 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.399 Dave and Busters. And so since we've started, we've got 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.280 a a ping pong table, which megan on a daily basis. Whoops, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.960 my acid in and I got a Papa shot has 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.280 yet to arrive. And then we have the inflatable pool. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.639 So I can't complain about inflatable pool when I have 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.480 less other things. I'm trying to make it a little 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.280 more Williams Sonoma. I have chairs that I've ordered that 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.280 have not been put together that I need you to do. Really, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.160 you are, I cook and then you do literally everything else. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.200 I think I do a lot, but a lot of it. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.640 Isn't that beneficial to both of us? Yeah? And it 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.880 takes you a long time, oh taking shots. Okay, So 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.960 today is such a very very special episode because we 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:06.000 are doing greatest Reggie Miller moments and why would we 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.920 do such a specific one, really specific? We are doing 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.880 it because we are going to be joined by my 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:24.040 favorite Indiana pacer NBA player Hall of Famer Ready broom Baby. Indeed, Yeah, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.040 I mean it honestly would be a highlight of my life. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.920 I mean a huge basketball fan obviously, nineties basketball fan specifically, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.599 but Reggie Miller. I feel like Reggie Miller, whether it's 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.760 true or no, he is a reason why we were 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.960 were together. I think absolutely before we were a couple, 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.600 I feel like a lot of the moments connecting and 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.800 on those first eight years of just being friends, we 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.400 would talk about Reggie Miller and Dairy Queen and Dairy 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:52.640 Queen two very iconic important things, both continuing to thrive, 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.320 and it's just we can't have Dairy Queen on the 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.040 show that I don't know how that would work. But 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.120 some people don't don't like listening to bowl talk and eat. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.839 I understand that an ice cream not good. Okay, well 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.880 that I'm glad you made that noise. I'm giving you 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.200 the noise that we will not be giving. You're giving 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.720 you Reggie Instead, Reggie is He's going to be joining 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.159 us later in the podcast, we thought, just to kick 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.120 things off, maybe we would talk about the moments that 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.760 made us love. Reggie Miller, the great Indiana Pacer, great 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.320 NBA analyst for Turner, for you know, NBA on T 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.359 and T inside the NBA, just he continues to be 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.000 such a relevant presence in our life and where it's 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.680 just such an honor that we're gonna have him on later. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.640 So let's kick it off, Megan, go first. I was 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.440 watching clips just to get myself in the headspace of this. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.600 I did get choked up. Um, that is truly, truly 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.680 how much Reggie means to me. I'm gonna get choked 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.520 up right now. Um. He is my favorite person to 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.840 watch win. Like you know, Peyton's obviously a great There's 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.200 some cults teams and produce basketball teams and Lebron's that 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.320 I've loved getting to watch. But watching Reggie win has 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.960 brought me joy in my life more than anybody else. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:10.320 So I'm coming from that place of love. So my 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:17.720 very first one is Game three against the Nicks. The 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:22.920 Pacers are down by twelve in the fourth Reggie starts 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.040 up talking to Spike we all know them, going back 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.960 and forth, and then he just goes off. He scores 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.880 twenty five points in the fourth quarter in Madison Square, 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.400 Garden does the Choke icon, and the Pacers go on 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.520 to win the game. Yeah, that's such a good one. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.920 I mean, it's like it's on T shirts, it's on billboards. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.600 I'm sure at the time it is. It's and I'm 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.120 still and I work in the sort of basketball creative 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.600 meme business, and boy, I just remember being in like 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.960 our slack channels when you know, during the playoffs and 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.520 whenever there's a poking moment, whenever there's a team that 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.599 blows it, everyone always brings up we gotta we gotta 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.440 do the Reggie, like, let's put someone's face on the 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:14.760 Reggie entire thirty about their relationships Spike and and Reggie 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.600 and the rest of the team, the Starks and all 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.600 of it. But it really kind of got jumped off 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.440 at this moment. This is what everything is centered around. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.560 This is what winning time to me symbolizes. It really 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.560 is because right now everyone's talking about obviously the last 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.760 dance with Jordan's and I just try to I try 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.760 to go back being a fan of the nineties. You know, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.560 Granted I was a little kid, but I was trying 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.920 to remember like the biggest moments back then, and not 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.840 much really overpowers or stands to the standards of the 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:49.200 nineties bulls winning championships, but Reggie versus the Knicks, Reggie 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.040 versus Spike, Like it's those moments in sports that transcend 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.239 into pop culture that's just like makes it so important 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.400 and everlasting. And Reggie versus Spike, Reggie Reggie at in 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:06.840 Madison Square Garden is just iconic. I've been to Madison 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.800 Square Garden once and they have all the jerseys up there, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.560 Knicks players, Rangers, and I took a picture of it 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.440 and said that they should put Reggie's jersey up there. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.000 And but Reggie, he shared it because he knows that 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.760 my boom baby love runs deep for him, which maybe 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.560 we'll ask him, But like I feel like every other 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.680 week we post something about Reggie in our He's on 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.960 my favorite hats, Reggie on it, a shirt I love. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.600 We got engaged in front of his mirror. He's integral 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.839 into our life. So that's my number three. C G 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.080 give us my number three. Perfect segue into it, because 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.000 it's also a Madison Square Garden moment. Game one Eastern 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:53.000 Conference Semifinals, the Classic, and some people there's some reiterate 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.600 or there's some iterations of this, but I know it 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.000 as the nine points in eight seconds, eight points in 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.840 nine seconds, eight points. Oh yes, yes, two threes and 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.920 two free throws. Sorry, sorry, it's it's my phone threw 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:06.480 me off. I was talking about it with him earlier, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.000 but I just rewatched it again recently. Again sometimes also 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.600 it was thirteen points and four set like it's one 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.480 of those things. It's the sand Lot of the Dog 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.559 like it is legend, it is folklore. We do know 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.920 that it was eight points in nine seconds, but it's 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.160 bigger than like, and some people don't count those free 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.599 throws just some people are like, oh, it's six h 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.200 six points in three seconds. Well, once we get out 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.280 of quarantine, I will fight, not physically because I want 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.280 everyone to be safe and healthy, but I we'll go 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.320 to their house and I will scream at them. Yeah, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.280 so it's that the eight points. But it just again 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.080 it's game one, Madison Square Garden. And this is this 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.400 is what makes Reggie so incredible is that I feel 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.080 like athletes really can make their moments in those moments 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.480 of under pressure, the moments of being counted out. And 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.439 if you're watching this game, and I've watched it a 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.480 couple of times in real time, not recently, but you think, 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.600 oh Nick's home court, I think they were, you know, 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.800 pretty favored the bulls. Were you counted out the Pacers? 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.640 But why would you? Because Reggie he hit that three? 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.959 Then he okay, And this is what's great if you 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.280 go back and rewatch it. Stark stumbles a little bit 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.560 on the inbounds trying to get the inbound passed, and 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.560 then Greg Anthony falls over. There's a little bit of 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.120 there's there's contact contact, but there it's nineties contact. Again, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.800 We're looking at it as like Lebron contact that they 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.920 used to you could you could get a little rough. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.040 This is Jordan's push off territory. This is like do 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.800 whatever you can to win, because if he didn't do it, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.079 he wouldn't have gotten the chance to win this game. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.200 But yeah, Greg Anthony falls over, Anthony Mason gives the 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.640 worst inbound pass ever seen, and Reggie steals the inbound 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.319 and then this is my favorite part again shout out 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.520 to winning time, which I think is so integral to 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.360 our relationship. He steps back, he takes a dribble back 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.880 behind the three point line and nails it in. My 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.880 favorite line in that thirty is every person being interviewed 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.520 goes having the presence of mind to just know the clock, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:09.040 know what points you need and hitting that three like 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.280 it's almost the second he stole that inbound he knew, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.560 he knew. He's like, oh, this is my shot. Dribble 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.959 back ones shot in and there was no coming back. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:23.080 And you you think about the hostile environment he was in, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:30.240 probably one of the most hostile environments and sports. Um, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.320 do you like Reggie? So Reggie he thrives when it's 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.680 those like that's not He's not someone that that shrinks 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.920 away or or can do all the things when people 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.640 are watching, when the spotlight is on him and when 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.640 New Yorkers are pouring booze down on him, He's gonna 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.880 step back and hit that three. Yeah, they were talking 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.760 about again if you rewatch it, like Starks, he gets fouled. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.320 I think one of the pacers, I mean that's demoralizing, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.839 are like, yes, They're like Starks isn't gonna make these 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.720 like they knew he would. They weren't going. He clings 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.520 them off the back of the rim. And that's the 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.440 mental games that Reggie was so so good at, is 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.520 getting into your head and just being able to play 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.480 those games and then continue to rise to the occasion. Yeah, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.440 he so Starks mrs the shots and then Reggie got 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.040 fouled on the rebound and sunk two free throws in 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.440 crunch time, and they want Reggie always makes always and 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.120 that's what you know. Guys like Lebron, you know he 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.400 doesn't make up. I know it's a different Oh sorry, 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.240 I just hit our dryer. Um, I can't believe that's 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.360 your number three. Where do we have well, I mean, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:40.160 you know, part of it is there's some personal stuff. Okay, um, alright, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:46.200 you ready for my number two? Okay? Game four Eastern 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:52.720 Conference Finals against against the Chicago Bulls Pacers Bulls Eastern Finals. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.080 This would give me stomach aches as a child, like 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.920 just you know, you would play, you'd have a day off. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.760 I wouldn't play days it and they would play. I'd 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.640 go to school, I'd try to focus. That is some 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.000 hoosier mentality where you you guys do the wee thing 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.600 a lot, like you know, we got a big game tomorrow. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.640 A lot of my Pittsburgh friends do that with the 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.079 Steelers too. I think I learned it from my dad, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.600 and some people really don't like it. I'm obviously not 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.920 on casers, but I like to think of myself as 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.680 part of the community that's trying to cheer them on. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:32.000 So game for Eastern Conference Finals, Reggie, you know there's 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:38.160 some contact. Uh he he gets away from Jordan's nails 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.880 of three. It was an elimination game. Pacers go on 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.400 to win that game, ended up losing that series in seven. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.240 But without that, I mean, that's one of the most 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.720 that that that seven game series is like burned in 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.440 my memory. And Game four it was such a thing 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.160 of beauty. My parents were at that game. It was 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.720 and plis and my mom wet her pants, like not 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.959 even it's not not not like first quarter, couldn't get 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.960 to the bathroom during this play. Reggie goes up, she's 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.400 had three kids. Yeah, maybe maybe and this is I'm 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.319 throwing this out there. Maybe for the outchar we bring 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.280 in your parents. Okay, maybe we'll just do a quick 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.080 call with them, but we'll decide that later. But she 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.680 wet her pants, and so like when we told your 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.000 parents that your your whole family in the group text 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.120 that we're going to interview Reggie Miller, mom and your 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:35.440 dad were like, yep, that's when Googie wet her pants. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:40.280 That's a moment. I mean, you were a Bulls fan, 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.640 What was it like watching that? You know, there there 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.760 were times and for some reason I hadn't you know, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.640 I was kind of naive and delusional as a kid, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.480 and I just always thought, you know, I was a kid, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.600 but I was like, the Bulls are gonna pull this off. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.240 But man, they whenever the Bulls and Pacers. I like, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.960 one of the biggest like nineties feelings that hasn't left 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.160 me are Sunday you know, the NBA and NBC Sunday games, 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.240 And it was always like Bulls Pacers And I was like, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.640 the Pacers wins on those games was like, yeah, the 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.120 Bulls are done. Like that was the Pacers always were 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.720 like the number one thread. It was never to me 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.320 like the Jazz or the Sonics. It sounds like it 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.320 was in the East. Who came out of the East 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.680 was in those in those years. And I think just 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.000 Reggie and Jordan's like Reggie was the right kind of 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:34.480 psychotic to beat Jordan's psych like psychotic because he's just 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.560 right of him. Yeah. Um, And I'm so excited because 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.720 this is the season We're going to get to see 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.720 this in the last dance and see what they do 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.000 with it. Because winning time was so amazing, but it 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.080 just focused really on the Knicks and Reggie rival right, 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.440 I guess you could say Nicks and Pacers, but Reggie 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.840 sort of did it all. I did get like kind 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.840 of offended as they as I was like reading stuff 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.480 and just reminiscing, they were talking about Reggie's how he 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.320 is a Hall of Famer and that he never want 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.960 to ring, and that he had like a not great 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.240 team of supporting characters, and I'm like, god, I really 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.760 loved them. Like as a kid I was young, I 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.560 wasn't gonna be like, we need a different point guard, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.920 Like I just loved who we have, no I think. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.240 I mean again, I was a Bulls fan, and after 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.760 Jordan retired that first time, I really didn't find anyone 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.560 else in the NBA who I love. But just like 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.520 thinking back on those Pacers teams, I mean, I just 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:33.640 today got an Antonio Davis Pacers Championship replica Jersey because 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.120 I forgot, like these were, these were menaces to my 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.640 favorite teams. These guys like Mark Jackson, like these were. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.200 I almost remember some of the role players more than 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.400 some of the Bulls role players. I believe that. Yeah, 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.960 because if Reggie wasn't having the game. Maybe the Davis 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.520 brothers would defensively, you know, Srace Smith didn't look like 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.360 your typical like you know, but he was like such 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.680 Indiana Jack said he was the only guy who could 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.400 show him down. Yeah, it's and you look at him, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.359 he's just such a goofy looking guy like that was 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.199 a team of outcasting. You couldnot not outcast, but you 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.640 just couldn't count them out because they would almost find 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.400 a way to annoy you or shut you down. That 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.160 it just scared me as a Bulls fan, a very 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.240 pampered Bulls fan. And I also think they're kind of 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.840 a classic small market team in the sense of it's 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.360 a lot of like fun characters. There's personalities, but they 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.679 are kind of the underdog. When you think Indie and 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:33.600 Chicago were so close geographically, we're always like, as a kid, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.200 would be like, we're going to Chicago, and I was like, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.440 we're going to Paris, going to the big city, which 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.760 is a big city. But we were always like the 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.240 corn Hicks and that was the big city. And so 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.960 to beat up on the big guys felt that much 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.280 better because no other teams really, like, none of your 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.600 other professional teams are really doing it yet, right, Nah, 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.239 this is around the time we got Peyton, and so 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.800 it kind of like transitioned perfectly. It went really from 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.960 like Reggie's rain then into Peyton's rain, and then when 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:11.399 Reggie Wayne became so popular and so good on the cult, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.840 I remember being like, well, it's not fair that we're 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.639 so good at chanting Reggie already, like we were just 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:22.040 born to do that. Yeah, that's all right. My second pick. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.679 We've talked about it a lot on the podcast, and 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.240 I hope it's not too ouey gooey. I thought getting 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.640 engaged in front of the mural was is my top? 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.760 I love you're saying it was so much question and uncertainty. Well, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:39.679 we just talked so much like basketball and Scat's. I 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.600 just it's like that really solidified that Reggie, even though 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.080 we don't really know him that close, is just like 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.760 an important person in our lives because we have a 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.840 lot of sports disagreements. Michael Jordan until recently, very much 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.600 like a taboo subject. I'm coming out of the quarantine 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.359 liking Philip Rivers and Michael. We said that this morning, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.840 and I was like out and I'm sorry that it 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.160 took our entire economy and country shutting down when I've 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.520 turned a corner on both of them. Yeah, But like 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.400 a little backstory on that whole thing, Like obviously, you know, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.200 the proposal was in the works for a couple of months, 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.320 and I just knew I wanted to do it in 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.440 Indy and I and you know, we've talked, and I 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.919 know that some of the most important things to hear 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.760 your family and where you're from. And I just was like, 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.959 but where am I gonna do it? In Indie? And 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.080 your mom the week of told me that the Reggie 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.760 Miller mural had gone up. And my mom, no, she 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.760 didn't tell me to do it. No shout out googie, 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.359 she she reminded me. And I was like, perfect, like 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.119 I wanted. And I told this to the wedding journalists 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.959 who's doing a story on our wedding, not to brag, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.600 but and she was like, I love that. Like I 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.359 just wanted something visual that we would always remember, Like, 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.159 you know, that's where the engaging was. Even though it 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.320 was pretty you pretty much knew it was going to happen. Okay, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.000 are you gonna feel bad that getting engaged in front 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:01.520 of the mural? Is is one of my honorable mention No, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.240 I it's number two on mine. Okay, okay, great, okay, 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.399 So let me get into my honorable mentions. This is 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.439 where I put all my personal ones. My so, Reggie 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.960 and I lived in the same neighborhood growing up, and 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.320 so just like driving by his street, waiting at the 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.159 end of his street, wondering if he was going to 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.040 be around. It was so exciting to get a view 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:26.040 of him. Um. Once my dad yelled Reggie for governor 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.199 in the Kroger parking lot at him, and I remember 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:32.159 being like, my dad is so cool. Um, and well 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.159 because like I was like, he could have said mayor, 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.400 but he's like, no, dog, you should run the whole state. Um. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.679 We would go trigger treating at his house. Once my 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.119 brother went up and was like, I don't want any candy, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.119 I just want Reggie to sign my trading card, and 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.840 his mom went and got him and he did. And 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.639 one time we lived on this reservoir called Geist and 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.240 Reggie's house was on the water, and so we were 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:59.040 out on the boat and my childhood friend swam across 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.800 the reservoir to touch Reggie's lawn and then two like 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.560 giant Doberman's came out like rearing out of nowhere, just 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.159 going to kill him. So he's like swimming back so fast, 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.960 but he held his hand above the water because he 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:17.960 was like, I'm never going to wash this. This touch 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.960 Reggie Millner's lawn. That's how much he meant to us. 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.400 And then last one, my mom once put something called 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:28.400 the empathy belly, which is a big fake pregnancy belly 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.600 on him. For some reason, my mom was judging a 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.679 pregnant bikini context as a labor and delivery nurse, and 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.479 Reggie was judge. Or you know, if I feel like 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.600 for the sake of Reggie, I'm going to say he 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.200 wasn't there. He was, He was there, and then he 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:47.000 was gone. And then obviously getting engaged in front of 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.639