Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is a Verdict with Ted Cruz, Weekend Review, Ben
Speaker 2: Ferguson with you, and these are the big stories that
Speaker 2: you may have missed that we talked about this week.
Speaker 2: Number one, there was a two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars plus bankwire transfer that came from Beijing. Where did
Speaker 2: it go to the home address of Joe Biden in
Speaker 2: the summer of twenty nineteen while he was running for president.
Speaker 2: Now you could argue that maybe Hunter Biden lived there
Speaker 2: at the time. The only problem is he didn't, and
Speaker 2: we have the proof of where he was living. That
Speaker 2: is a huge story you don't want to miss. Number
Speaker 2: two this weekend also deals with a problem with a
Speaker 2: Biden administration and a wide open border. Now Democratic mayors
Speaker 2: are flipping on their own party, yet they're still not
Speaker 2: willing to say Joe Biden needs to secure the border.
Speaker 2: We'll dive into politics of that. And finally, at GOP
Speaker 2: debate took place this past week. In the highlights of
Speaker 2: what really mattered and what went on, we're going to
Speaker 2: break it down for you, specifically with China and the
Speaker 2: fetnyl crisis. It is the weekend Review with Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: and it starts right now. There is new reporting out
Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden received wired transfers for a quarter of
Speaker 2: a million dollars originating in Beijing, for more than more
Speaker 2: than two hundred and fifty from Chinese business partners during
Speaker 2: the summer of two thy and nineteen. These wires were
Speaker 2: listed that were listed had the home address of the
Speaker 2: President of the United States of America, Joe Biden, as
Speaker 2: the beneficiary address for the funds that were being transferred.
Speaker 2: This is a direct link from money from Beijing now
Speaker 2: to the President of the United States of America in
Speaker 2: the sum of at least two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: and counting.
Speaker 3: Well, look, that's exactly right. Let me walk you through
Speaker 3: a little bit of this timeline. VID named Jonathan Lee
Speaker 3: and Hunter Biden developed a business relationship while Joe Biden
Speaker 3: was Vice president. On July twenty sixth, twenty nineteen, Hunter
Speaker 3: Biden received a ten thousand dollars wire from Wang Jin.
Speaker 3: On October second, twenty nineteen, Hunter Biden received a two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars wire from Jonathan Lee and
Speaker 3: Tan Ling. Both wires originated in Beijing and listed as
Speaker 3: the beneficiary address Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home. Nearly three
Speaker 3: months later, on October thirteenth, twenty nineteen, Hunter Biden's attorney,
Speaker 3: guy named George Messiris, stated that Hunter Biden received no
Speaker 3: money from BHR and did not disclose any payments from
Speaker 3: Jonathan Lee. I mean, it's easy to forget quarter million dollars.
Speaker 3: Everyone loses that. Beyond that, evidence show that Joe Biden
Speaker 3: developed a familiar relationship with Jonathan Lee during his vice
Speaker 3: presidency and prior to these payments to Hunter Biden. Devin Archer,
Speaker 3: who was a business associate of the Bidens, described how
Speaker 3: Joe Biden, not Hunter, Joe Daddy, met with Jonathan Lee
Speaker 3: in Beijing, China, had a phone call with him, and
Speaker 3: later wrote college recommendation letters for his children. So understand
Speaker 3: the guy who's wiring a quarter million dollars to Hunter
Speaker 3: Biden to Joe Biden's home address, Joe Biden wrote college
Speaker 3: recommendation letters for his kids, and in fact, in December
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, during a vice presidential trip to Beijing, reports
Speaker 3: indicate that quote Hunter. Shortly after arriving in Beijing on
Speaker 3: December fourth, Help arranged for Lee to shake hands with
Speaker 3: his father in the lobby of the American delegation's hotel.
Speaker 3: You all of this is happening, This wire is happening
Speaker 3: simultaneously to Joe Biden announcing his campaign for president of
Speaker 3: the United States. But nevertheless, on October twenty second, twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: here's what Joe Biden said, quote, my son has not
Speaker 3: made money in terms of thing about what are you
Speaker 3: talking about China? The only guy who made money in
Speaker 3: China is Trump. So what he said his son has
Speaker 3: not made money from China. It was a flat out lie.
Speaker 3: Not only had he made money, he'd made a quarter
Speaker 3: million dollars from a guy Joe Biden had met, from
Speaker 3: a guy who Joe Biden had written recommendation letters for
Speaker 3: his kids, and that quarter million dollars was wired to
Speaker 3: Joe Biden's home address.
Speaker 2: I still am taken aback, and rarely does this happen
Speaker 2: center at just the the and I don't think it's
Speaker 2: in common. It's just the brazenness of the crime that
Speaker 2: were committed by the Bidens. They didn't get And this
Speaker 2: is twenty nineteen, this is not that long ago.
Speaker 1: He's running for president, right, He's.
Speaker 2: Running for president of the United States of America, and
Speaker 2: they're wiring these funds from Beijing to the home address
Speaker 2: of the President of the United States, and now president
Speaker 2: it's America. While he's trying to become the president. It's America.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they're like, hey, get the money in here, quick,
Speaker 2: move it through quickly. We got to get this We
Speaker 2: gotta get this money in here fast before he becomes
Speaker 2: the president.
Speaker 1: And so send it on.
Speaker 2: Where do you want me to say, We're not even
Speaker 2: gonna funnel the money this time, We're not even gonna
Speaker 2: put it in the llcas and move the bank accounts around.
Speaker 2: Just send it directly the home address of the president,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: And this is an example where the corporate media will
Speaker 3: be utterly compliant. So the only one who will even
Speaker 3: bother to ask a question of Joe Biden at a
Speaker 3: press conference or or of kareein John Pierre will be
Speaker 3: Fox because the rest of the corporate media, it will
Speaker 3: roll over and be compliant. But here's a basic question,
Speaker 3: mister president, did you ever meet Jonathan Lee's kids?
Speaker 1: How about that? Let's start with that.
Speaker 3: You wrote recommendation letters for him, do you ever meet him?
Speaker 3: You know anything about him? And If the answers no, well,
Speaker 3: why the hell did you write recommendations letters for them?
Speaker 3: What did Jonathan Lee do to get you? You were
Speaker 3: the vice president of the United States to write a
Speaker 3: recommendation letter for his kids if you ever met the kids.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he met him, but I would
Speaker 3: be shocked if he did. If you never met the kids,
Speaker 3: So you're willing to write a recommendation letter for someone
Speaker 3: you never met. Presumably you owe something to daddy if
Speaker 3: you're writing a recommendation letter to the kids. So the
Speaker 3: question is what do you owe, what did daddy do?
Speaker 3: And does it have anything to do with the fact
Speaker 3: that daddy sent a quarter million dollars wired it to
Speaker 3: your son at your home address while you were running
Speaker 3: for president of the United States. Remember the Democrat talking
Speaker 3: point and the corporate media talking point is, yeah, Hunter's corrupt.
Speaker 3: He let's throw him overboard. We've given up on Hunter.
Speaker 3: But Joe had nothing to do with it. Well, you
Speaker 3: know what, Hunter didn't write recommendations letters for the kids
Speaker 3: of Jonathan Lee. Joe did. So what did Joe get
Speaker 3: in exchange for a recommendation letter? By the way, you
Speaker 3: and I are both parents, do either of us have
Speaker 3: recommendation letters from the Vice President of the United States
Speaker 3: for our kids. No, like, that's pretty damn serious. And
Speaker 3: it's remarkable the media they will not even ask these questions.
Speaker 3: They do not care.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not just that you.
Speaker 2: I'm sure could ask ten hundred times more than I
Speaker 2: do for recommendations for different things. And the more that
Speaker 2: you build something, the more cautious and careful you are,
Speaker 2: because you don't want to give your name to somebody
Speaker 2: that could come back to haunt you one day when
Speaker 2: a press like, hey, Senator Cruz, did you actually write
Speaker 2: over a letter of recommendation for someone that you didn't
Speaker 2: know and now they've been arrested for drugs or for
Speaker 2: this crime or that or embezzlement.
Speaker 1: You protect your good name.
Speaker 2: In West you're Joe Biden, where it seems to be
Speaker 2: that you can just buy a letter of recommendation from
Speaker 2: the Vice president if the dollar amount is enough to
Speaker 2: your family.
Speaker 3: So look, I'm fifty two years old, I've been in
Speaker 3: the Senate eleven years. My guess is maybe I've written
Speaker 3: in the whole course of my life, let's say, one
Speaker 3: hundred recommendation letters. That's probably high, but I'm gonna overestimate it.
Speaker 3: Those one hundred have been almost exclusively people who are
Speaker 3: either good personal friends of mine or people who worked
Speaker 3: for me. If so someone was a staff assistant, if
Speaker 3: someone was an employee in the office and they worked
Speaker 3: and they did a good job, I'll draft a letter
Speaker 3: of recommendation. It'll vary if I know them well. Some
Speaker 3: letters are recommendation. I lean in closely because if I
Speaker 3: know them well and I work with them, I'll say
Speaker 3: something nicely about them. If they were a good kid
Speaker 3: and they worked in the office and they could do
Speaker 3: good work, I'll write a more generic letter, and I'll
Speaker 3: often have staff draft it and try to reflect. You know.
Speaker 3: You know, Young Ben did a nice job on a
Speaker 3: memo on national security and he pointed out maybe we
Speaker 3: should not have Iranian agents working for the federal government,
Speaker 3: and I agreed with that. That was nicely done. Yeah,
Speaker 3: mind you that means Young Ben couldn't get hired in
Speaker 3: the Biden administration. But in a sane world, young Ben
Speaker 3: had some wisdom that was impressive, and so you should
Speaker 3: hire him at Old Miss because he also has a
Speaker 3: wicked serve and and knows he to play tennis like
Speaker 3: that's a letter I might write. But I can tell
Speaker 3: you right now, I have never written a letter of
Speaker 3: recommendation for a Chinese national. And I'm sure as hell
Speaker 3: haven't written a letter recommendation for the children of a
Speaker 3: Chinese national I've never met. And I'm sure as hell
Speaker 3: as hell, as hell as hell have never written a
Speaker 3: letter recommendation for the children of a Chinese national who
Speaker 3: I've never at the children, And that the dad has
Speaker 3: given a quarter million dollars to my son and sent
Speaker 3: it to my home address, Like holy crap. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: this is not like there's sort of a realm of reasonableness.
Speaker 3: And look, sometimes you have someone who was an intern
Speaker 3: and shook your hand and you say, young Ben is
Speaker 3: a nice young man, and it's kind of a courtesy,
Speaker 3: and you don't really know. Young Ben may not be
Speaker 3: a nice young man. He may be a total jerk,
Speaker 3: but you're trying to be nice, and so you write
Speaker 3: a letter because young Ben seem fine. This is qualitatively different.
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone in politics who's ever done this
Speaker 3: like what Joe Biden is doing. Like people listening might think, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know the political world, this is commonplace. No, no,
Speaker 3: it's not people don't do this like a quarter million dollars.
Speaker 3: You don't get sent to you. You don't get sent
Speaker 3: to you from Chinese nationals. You don't get sent to
Speaker 3: you from Chinese nationals. Well you're running for president, don't
Speaker 3: get sent to you from Chinese nationals in exchange for
Speaker 3: who the hell knows what I mean this is. And
Speaker 3: it's worth underscoring this is not Hunter, this is Joe, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 3: This money was wired to Joe's home address.
Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. There's
Speaker 2: a civil war in the Democratic Party right now over
Speaker 2: the immigration issue. We're seeing, you know, Mayor Adams come out,
Speaker 2: the Governor of New York come out, and it's hard
Speaker 2: to just overlook what's happening at the border. There was
Speaker 2: an interesting Fox report that I think put in perspective
Speaker 2: for people, and I wanted to make sure we played
Speaker 2: it in the video pod. And many people are listening
Speaker 2: to this right now. They're listening on audio only. You
Speaker 2: can go watch the video that we're about to do
Speaker 2: on YouTube all right, because we're doing this one with
Speaker 2: video and audio. Go look at it because this is
Speaker 2: something that should go viral and we should see Yep,
Speaker 2: take a look at this.
Speaker 4: I can tell you that early this morning in Eagle Pass,
Speaker 4: we witnessed one of the largest mass illegal crossings we
Speaker 4: have ever seen in the last two and a half
Speaker 4: years of covering our southern border.
Speaker 1: We'll get right to this video. Take a look at
Speaker 1: this stunning footage.
Speaker 4: Border patrol sources telling us just after midnight about two thousand,
Speaker 4: five hundred migrants crossed illegally into Eagle Pass.
Speaker 1: You can see this lengthy.
Speaker 4: Line of them stretching from shore to shore in the river.
Speaker 4: This video perspective coming from the Mexican side of the
Speaker 4: river in Piedrous and Negros. One of our contacts over
Speaker 4: there shooting this video as they essentially bum rushed Eagle Pass.
Speaker 1: Last night, you.
Speaker 2: Saw that there was another video also in viral, and
Speaker 2: that was a train coming towards America filled with people.
Speaker 2: And it's like the cartails that figured out, hey, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna stop us. In fact, the more that we
Speaker 2: send the more likely it is to be successful. We
Speaker 2: can just bum rush the border and this administration will
Speaker 2: not stop us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's put these these numbers in context. So we've
Speaker 3: discussed on the pod before. Mayor Adams in New York
Speaker 3: has said that New York is City isn't a crisis.
Speaker 3: They've had one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants. He
Speaker 3: says that one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants is
Speaker 3: destroying New York City. I want to focus on Eagle
Speaker 3: Pass where where If you watch that video you just
Speaker 3: saw the people crossing. Eagle Pass is a small town
Speaker 3: on the southern border on the Rio Grande River. It
Speaker 3: has a population of about twenty eight thousand people, so
Speaker 3: it's a little town. On one single day last week,
Speaker 3: more than four thousand illegal immigrants came into Eagle Pass
Speaker 3: on one day. Now four thousand people in town of
Speaker 3: twenty eight thousand people is about fourteen percent of the population.
Speaker 3: About fourteen percent of the population of the city came
Speaker 3: illegally into Eagle Pass on one day. What would that
Speaker 3: be in New York City? New York City has a
Speaker 3: population of about nine million people. If fourteen percent of
Speaker 3: New York City came into New York on one day,
Speaker 3: that would be one million, two hundred and sixty thousand
Speaker 3: people invading New York on a single day. Mayor Adams says,
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten thousand people over two and a
Speaker 3: half years is a crisis destroying the city. Well, how
Speaker 3: would he feel about one million, two hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: thousand people entering the city on a single day. That's
Speaker 3: what Eagle Pass saw on one day last week. And
Speaker 3: you know what they saw thousands more the next day
Speaker 3: and the next day, and the next day and the
Speaker 3: next day. And these Democrats do not give a damn.
Speaker 2: Border Patrol Union put out a very interesting tweet and
Speaker 2: this is what they said as they put this out,
Speaker 2: It said, from September first through the twentieth, the Biden
Speaker 2: administration or the release of more than one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: This to order the release of one hundred thousand legal
Speaker 2: border crashers, enough to double the population, says like Yuma Arizona,
Speaker 2: think about what Biden is doing to this country with
Speaker 2: his out of control border policies.
Speaker 1: How many millions more?
Speaker 2: That's not like exaggeration when they say patrol Unions saying
Speaker 2: how many millions more, that's a very accurate hit because
Speaker 2: there are millions.
Speaker 3: Look, they're at seven and a half million, and Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer and Alejandro Mayorcis and every
Speaker 3: Senate Democrat and just about every Congressional Democrat. They want
Speaker 3: seven and a half million, to go to ten million,
Speaker 3: to go to twelve million, to go to fifteen million.
Speaker 3: They want as many as possible. And by the way,
Speaker 3: if you don't believe me that they want as many
Speaker 3: as possible, take a look at the Governor of New York,
Speaker 3: Governor Hokeel back in twenty twenty one, so just two
Speaker 3: years ago, where she is explicitly inviting as many as
Speaker 3: possible to come to New York.
Speaker 1: Take a look.
Speaker 5: So our message the world is, send us your people,
Speaker 5: send us those who need the cloak of comfort that
Speaker 5: we can demonstrate as New Yorkers with big hearts and
Speaker 5: open arms, and we'll provide a safe haven, particularly for
Speaker 5: these Afghan refugees.
Speaker 6: We're so proud that are here.
Speaker 5: We have already seventy five hundred Afghans living here, all
Speaker 5: read read, and we expect to have another eighteen hundred more.
Speaker 5: And we send a message from day one, we'll take
Speaker 5: as many as you want to have us have come
Speaker 5: to New York State because it's a huge point of
Speaker 5: pride for us, and we'll support them to build a
Speaker 5: whole new life.
Speaker 1: Open arms and big hearts.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, and she also said, we'll take
Speaker 3: as many as you want to have come to New York.
Speaker 3: Please come. So that is the approved talking point of
Speaker 3: left wingers. Now fast forward to twenty twenty three, same governor.
Speaker 3: Here's what she says this year.
Speaker 6: It certainly will because about forty one percent of the
Speaker 6: people in our shelters today are from Venezuela. They are
Speaker 6: lily from around the world, West Africa, South and Central America.
Speaker 6: They're coming from all over. But we have to let
Speaker 6: the word out that when you come to New York,
Speaker 6: we're not going to have more hotel rooms. We don't
Speaker 6: have capacity. So we have to also message properly that
Speaker 6: we're at our limit. If you're going to leave your country,
Speaker 6: go somewhere else with The smarter thing is to apply
Speaker 6: for asylum before you leave your country, and then you'll
Speaker 6: have a different experience when you arrive.
Speaker 1: You're gonna leave your country center go somewhere else. Down
Speaker 1: that we're at our limit.
Speaker 3: We're at our limit.
Speaker 1: We have no more hotel rooms for you.
Speaker 3: And by the way, look at the numbers. So in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, she was saying, we have seventy five
Speaker 3: hundred Afghans and we expect another eighteen hundred more. Okay,
Speaker 3: so if they're talking seven eight nine thousand, that we're good.
Speaker 3: One hundred and ten thousand, Oh crap, we're at our limit.
Speaker 3: We said eighteen hundred, We didn't say one hundred and
Speaker 3: ten thousand. Well what do you think about seven and
Speaker 3: a half million? The utter hypocrisy, and mind you you know,
Speaker 3: you know what name she didn't say, Joe Biden. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she didn't say Kamala Harris, she didn't say Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3: If New York is at its limit, doesn't New York
Speaker 3: State have two US Senators? Yeah, isn't one of them
Speaker 3: the Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer, who.
Speaker 2: Could do something on this, actually legislation or introduced legislation.
Speaker 3: And not only does he not introduce legislation, he votes
Speaker 3: against anything to secure the border. He demonizes any effort
Speaker 3: to secure the border. He embraces the open borders that
Speaker 3: are destroying New York City, and even the Democrats who
Speaker 3: are calling it out, they don't dare call out their
Speaker 3: fellow Democrats. Instead, they blame as I love, you know,
Speaker 3: Mayor Adams who said some madman in Texas, Greg Abbott.
Speaker 3: I'm still I'm still offended that he wasn't talking about me,
Speaker 3: But hah. The hypocrisy is massive because New York's Democrat
Speaker 3: governor is not saying stop secure the border, stop the invasion.
Speaker 3: She's saying, please don't send them new York, send them
Speaker 3: to Red States. Make other people deal with them so
Speaker 3: I can continue to virtue signal. By the way, did
Speaker 3: you notice also in that press interview it was a
Speaker 3: little Stepford wives that that that that that both she
Speaker 3: and the woman interviewing her are wearing the exact same
Speaker 3: white suit. It was just kind of a little freaky look.
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure what was going on there.
Speaker 2: Everybody asked me about it. You really beliethers bias the media,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, ye, yes, I really do. Like I
Speaker 2: love when I'm traveling, you get it to all the time.
Speaker 2: People come up and they kind of want to antagonize, like,
Speaker 2: there's not bias media. If you were a decent person
Speaker 2: in the media when she said go somewhere else, any
Speaker 2: journalist the initial response would been, will governor where else where?
Speaker 2: What is this somewhere else? Is that another state? Are
Speaker 2: you telling me to go to another country? There was
Speaker 2: no follow up there.
Speaker 1: On at all.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, because there's no response that go somewhere else?
Speaker 3: What they mean? And actually the Biden White House said
Speaker 3: that go to Texas. Send them all to Texas because
Speaker 3: they hate Texas and they figure if they invade Texas
Speaker 3: with enough people, they'll flip it blue. And you know what,
Speaker 3: if the cities are bankrupted, and if people die, and
Speaker 3: if children are assaulted, and if they're drug overdoses, all
Speaker 3: of that is an acceptable price for their partisan political objective.
Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of
Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
Speaker 2: down the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the
Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big
Speaker 2: story number three of the week. You may have missed, Senator,
Speaker 2: I also want to talk about China and fetanyl for
Speaker 2: a moment. You've talked a lot about fetanyl and the
Speaker 2: issue at the border. This did seem to be something
Speaker 2: that Republicans agreed on that we have a big problem.
Speaker 1: The issue is how do you fight back.
Speaker 2: Nikki Haley said, time to go to war economically with China,
Speaker 2: as she described it, until they stop sending all the
Speaker 2: fetanel into this country that's killing Americans.
Speaker 1: She described it as they're at war with us.
Speaker 2: They're taking our stealing our intellectual property, They're stealing everything
Speaker 2: then get their hands on from us. They're setting up
Speaker 2: spy bases in Cuba. They've done countless things that compromises countries,
Speaker 2: Spy balloons over this country as well. And this president
Speaker 2: clearly seems to be compromised and cannot stand up to China.
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree on that, but there
Speaker 2: did seem to be a sense on stage that hey,
Speaker 2: it's time to go on offense and to stop letting
Speaker 2: China run all over us.
Speaker 3: Well look, you know, it's interesting, said a minute ago
Speaker 3: in your question, you said this president Joe Biden has
Speaker 3: compromised on China.
Speaker 1: It was interesting.
Speaker 3: There was not a word said to night about Biden's corruption,
Speaker 3: about the and there was very little said about Biden's record.
Speaker 3: There was very little said. What I found curious, and
Speaker 3: it's why I think most of the candidates.
Speaker 1: Did not have a great night tonight.
Speaker 3: There was very little said about why they were the
Speaker 3: best candidate to beat Donald Trump. And in the primary,
Speaker 3: that's the only question is who can win the primary,
Speaker 3: And there was very little said about why they were
Speaker 3: the best candidate to beat Joe Biden. And at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, that's what Republican primary voters are
Speaker 3: looking for. And it was it was odd. When it
Speaker 3: came to Trump, most of the candidates seemed to forget
Speaker 3: that he existed, and when it came to Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: by and large, most of the candidates for god, he existed.
Speaker 3: And tin to prosecute a case, you're trying to make
Speaker 3: the case that I'm the guy or I'm the gal
Speaker 3: to take us to victory. And on China, look, there
Speaker 3: was some rhetoric China's bad, China's bad, China's bad. But
Speaker 3: what we didn't hear from anybody was a systematic, comprehensive
Speaker 3: plan to how do we beat China. And I believe
Speaker 3: I've talked about this a lot, that we need the
Speaker 3: sword of systematic plan that Reagan had to win the
Speaker 3: Cold War, a plan that takes on that that combats
Speaker 3: China's lies, its murder, it's torture, its genocide, it's espionage,
Speaker 3: its theft, its propaganda that goes after China, and there
Speaker 3: was very little said about how specifically we do that.
Speaker 3: There was some general rhetoric China bad, but not a
Speaker 3: whole lot of substance. So therefore, what.
Speaker 2: I was shocked to buy what you just mentioned, and
Speaker 2: let's dive into this for a moment. I think it
Speaker 2: was a huge mistake to not bring up the big
Speaker 2: breaking news that you and I broke on this podcast
Speaker 2: yesterday in a.
Speaker 3: Quarter million dollars sent to Joe Biden's house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from Beijing, and no one mentioned it.
Speaker 2: On top of the fact that it broke after we
Speaker 2: did that show that based on the plea deal agreement
Speaker 2: that was given by David Weiss, it said in that
Speaker 2: plea agreement that during the time that payment was made,
Speaker 2: the residence for Hunter Biden was in California. That's in
Speaker 2: the plea agreement that came out as kind of like, hey,
Speaker 2: if you think that he was living in this house
Speaker 2: that's the same residence of the President of the United
Speaker 2: States America, you know, in Delaware, you're wrong. The plea
Speaker 2: agreement said during the time, and it also came out
Speaker 2: afterwards Center that in his own book that Hunter Biden wrote.
Speaker 2: He also said in his book that he was living
Speaker 2: in California at the time that wire transfer would have
Speaker 2: come through. So there's even a bigger problem there, and
Speaker 2: no one said anything about it on stage.
Speaker 1: That was a huge mistake, I think for all of them.
Speaker 3: Well, if you think about any moment, and this was
Speaker 3: a long debate. This was a two hour debate. And
Speaker 3: by the way, I got to say, there's something weird
Speaker 3: about the debate at the Reagan Library. So in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: we had a debate at the Reagan Library right on
Speaker 3: the stage where they were, and the twenty sixteen debate
Speaker 3: that was the CNN debate, and it went three hours.
Speaker 3: It was the longest debate of the entire cycle. And
Speaker 3: I remember, I don't know if this was true tonight,
Speaker 3: but in twenty sixteen, the Reagan Library did not have
Speaker 3: air conditioning that was made to survive the cleague lights
Speaker 3: of a television debate, and so it was hot.
Speaker 1: And that many warm bodies in the room.
Speaker 2: People don't realize as rooms get hot when you have
Speaker 2: that many people in there.
Speaker 3: There was a whole audience of people that there are
Speaker 3: bright lights. I remember by the third hour, we were
Speaker 3: drenched in sweat and I was standing there. I was
Speaker 3: actually standing, Mike Huckabee was next to me, Marco Rubio
Speaker 3: was next to me. Actually, Marco, to his credit, had
Speaker 3: a hankchief, which which he let both Huckabye and me
Speaker 3: use because we were both sweating like crazy and it
Speaker 3: was by hour three. It was unpleasant. Now, the good
Speaker 3: news is I think there were six people in the
Speaker 3: entire world that stayed up to watch the third hour
Speaker 3: of that debate, so it didn't matter that we all
Speaker 3: looked like we were drowning in our own sweat. I
Speaker 3: couldn't tell if they had the same issue this time,
Speaker 3: but I will say in two hours it was striking
Speaker 3: that there was not really an effective case made. Here's
Speaker 3: how we beat Joe Biden, and that matters a lot.
Speaker 3: Nor was there an effective case. You know, Dana Prino
Speaker 3: tried to get to it when she said, Okay, write
Speaker 3: down on your piece of paper who you're going to
Speaker 3: vote off the island. And by the way, I will
Speaker 3: credit the candidates for all of them saying no, we're
Speaker 3: not playing that kind of BS game. That was the
Speaker 3: right response for them to say no. But even though
Speaker 3: you don't write on a card. You're not playing Jeopardy.
Speaker 3: There wasn't really anyone making the case other than the Santis,
Speaker 3: which is why I think he won tonight. There wasn't
Speaker 3: really anyone making the case. I'm the right standard bearer
Speaker 3: to win the primary, and I'm the right standard bearer
Speaker 3: to win the general, and here's how and why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was also a lot of misses.
Speaker 2: People said, at least in response online, that this debate
Speaker 2: was on Univision and they didn't feel like the candidates
Speaker 2: did a good enough job reaching out to Hispanic voters.
Speaker 1: Your reaction to that as well.
Speaker 3: Look, I think they did almost nothing. I mean to
Speaker 3: Hispanic voters. Listen, the Hispanic community. Our community is fundamentally conservative.
Speaker 3: It is culturally conservative. You look at the values that
Speaker 3: resonate in the Hispanic community.
Speaker 1: Family oriented, very family oriented.
Speaker 3: Family faith, patriotism, hard work, the American dream. Those are
Speaker 3: values that are fundamentally conservative. You didn't see anyone saying,
Speaker 3: you know what, you want to talk about the Hispanic community.
Speaker 3: The Hispanic community in South Texas and in californ Horn
Speaker 3: in Arizona's getting hammered by seven point six million illegal
Speaker 3: immigrants by the way every candidate tonight got the number wrong.
Speaker 3: They all said six million. Your numbers or are a
Speaker 3: million and a half off. It's up to seven point six.
Speaker 3: The candidates should get their numbers right. But they didn't
Speaker 3: talk about the misery that is being imposed on the
Speaker 3: Hispanic community by this crisis of illegal immigration. They didn't
Speaker 3: talk about Hispanic families that are getting hammered by rising inflation.
Speaker 3: They didn't talk about Hispanic families that are getting hammered
Speaker 3: by rising crime rates. They didn't talk extensively about the
Speaker 3: Democrat efforts to defund the police and George Soros prosecutors.
Speaker 3: They had some of that actually, their discussion of crime.
Speaker 3: There was some decent moments, But the point you just
Speaker 3: made men, nobody connected it to the Hispanic community. No
Speaker 3: one connected it to the African American community. And that's
Speaker 3: a point that I think is important to make that
Speaker 3: I hope in subsequent debates we get people making more clearly.
Speaker 2: Lastly, Center, there was another moment, and it's a viral moment.
Speaker 2: I understand, and you can explain this.
Speaker 1: You want a moment.
Speaker 2: Every candidate wants a moment when they're on stage, and
Speaker 2: they want to have these big moments that are talked about.
Speaker 2: Nikki Haley tried to land one against the deck, and
Speaker 2: this is what it sounded like.
Speaker 6: Every time I hear you, I feel a little bit
Speaker 6: dumber for what you say.
Speaker 1: I don't think that landed the way she was hoping.
Speaker 2: It didn't come across to me as I was watching
Speaker 2: it is this, you know, big moment. I get that
Speaker 2: what she was trying to accomplish. Was that a mistake?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a mistake. That moment was harsh and
Speaker 3: it seemed too harsh. Look, look, Haley's a talented candidate.
Speaker 3: She's a talented communicator. She's one of the best communicators
Speaker 3: on that stage. She had a really good night in
Speaker 3: the first debate. This one was not nearly as good.
Speaker 3: That shot was mean spirited, It wasn't substantive in a debate.
Speaker 3: I think you're almost always better disagreeing with someone on
Speaker 3: substance rather than just sort of one line at hominem attacks.
Speaker 3: And by the way, look, you can disagree with Vivek
Speaker 3: because you could say that he doesn't have the experience
Speaker 3: to be president. You can disagree with him on policy,
Speaker 3: but the guy's not dumb. He's a smart guy. So
Speaker 3: the claim every time I listen to you, I feel
Speaker 3: dumber like that, that is a pretty condescending comment that
Speaker 3: going back to my point before, in a debate, you
Speaker 3: want truth and authenticity, You want the words coming out
Speaker 3: of your mouth for people to say, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I agree with that, And I don't think very many
Speaker 3: people agreed with that, and so it diminished her more
Speaker 3: than it diminished Vivek. Now, I do think the other
Speaker 3: candidates on that stage are pretty chippy towards Vivek because
Speaker 3: he was pretty condescending and nasty to them in debate
Speaker 3: number one, and he made him shine. But there's some
Speaker 3: grudges that were playing out tonight. I'll also point out
Speaker 3: there that there were moments when when Nicki Haley and
Speaker 3: Tim Scott were going at each other and they were
Speaker 3: just yelling at each other, back and forth and back
Speaker 3: and forth, and it was kind of a South Carolina
Speaker 3: pissing fight, and my take on it, that didn't really
Speaker 3: help either one of them. It was too parochial. I
Speaker 3: don't know that a whole lot of people care about
Speaker 3: the internecine fights in South Carolina, and I think the
Speaker 3: effect of it is that both of them seemed to
Speaker 3: be taking their eye off the ball, that the objective
Speaker 3: is first to win the primary and then to beat
Speaker 3: Joe Biden in the general, and I think that back
Speaker 3: and forth bickering didn't help either one of them in
Speaker 3: that respect.
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