1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll play into it. I say, I used 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: to rake when I was a little kid, but I 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: was a po. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: I was a PO come high school, So I don't 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: know if that really counts for a whole lot. 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: But as closed with Mason Miller with us right now, Mason, 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 3: great to have you back on foul territory. How's life 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: right now with the A's, I mean, just to put 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: it simply to start the conversation, hello to you and 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: thanks for swinging by. You know, this team in the 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: last couple of years hasn't been great, and now I 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: mean you're in at least wildcard contention, if not division contention. 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 4: I know it's early in the season. 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Is it fun to be involved, you know, on the 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: now positive side of the rebuild? 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, good morning guys. Appreciate you having me as always. 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but getting to some competitive baseball is obviously a 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: nice change of events for us. I think we were 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: kind of there last year, but after the first half 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: you don't really get to look at the schedule or 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: look at this the standings and kind of see see 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: your team up there kind of in a couple of 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: games out. You know, it's early, so we're not necessarily 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: focused on that. We're just focused on competitive baseball, bringing 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: our best and trying to be consistent in each game 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: each series. 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 5: Does it feel different? 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 6: Are the conversations different than it was when you know, 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 6: you guys are already kind of dug a hole for 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 6: yourself last year and then you started to improve, and 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 6: it's like, you know, we see it coming. But now 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 6: you start the season out you were hovering above five hundred. 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: Now you're bouncing right in there. 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 6: Are the conversations different in the clubhouse with you guys 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 6: or in the bullpens that you spend a lot of 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 6: time out there. 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the expectations are certainly different. You know, 38 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: you have high expectations of yourself and of your teammates always, 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: but you know there's there's a ceiling uncertain times, and 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: you know we're not blind to that. But I think 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: just the goals shift a little bit, and the goals 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: in the previous couple of seasons are a little different 43 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: than this year. You know, after the end of last year, 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: the second half that we played, that was kind of 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: our coming out to everybody that that were a competitive 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: team with some good players. And I think we knew 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: that before everybody else did. So you know, now that 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: we're at this point, we kind of knew that we 49 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: had this talent, and I think that we can, you know, 50 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: play even higher above that. And we have a tough 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: schedule this month, but I think it'll be be a 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: good test for us and kind of put up, shut 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: up type type times. 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 7: I love that, and I think you know, here, guys say, 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 7: especially earlier in the year, you know, these games don't matter. 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 7: They matter, every single game matters, and I think that 57 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 7: put up or shut up time. I absolutely love that. 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 7: So for me, my question, you talk about competing, you're 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 7: talking about a different team. Who's who's the leader right now? 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 7: Who's that guy in the clubhouse that everybody looks for? 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: Is it you? 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 7: Is there a guy that you know everybody kind of 63 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 7: leans on, or is the team just know what they're doing. 64 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 7: They come to the ballpark and sad, everybody's accountable. You know, 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 7: let's get after it and. 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: We have an awesome mix of guys. Signing Sevy this 67 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: year has been been huge for us. He's a phenomenal leader, 68 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: phenomenal person, and he's been really a big difference maker 69 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: for the locker room. 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: I think. 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: But we got a young group with you know, a 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: couple veteran guys in there too, but just a bunch 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: of guys that you know, come to the field excited 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: to see each other, excited to hang out, excited to work. 75 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: So you know, having guys like Rooke and Log at 76 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: extensions is awesome. Guys kind of look to them obviously, 77 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: but I think I think Rooke Sevy are probably two 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: of our biggest guys, and you know, they're doing a 79 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: phenomenal job. We're kind of regardless of how you know, 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: their games go, and just being the kind of calming 81 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: presence for the team. And sometimes it's reminding you the 82 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: guys that we got another one tomorrow. You know, like 83 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: after last night, it's easy to easy to let them 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: sit with you a little bit, but you know we're 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: going to turn the page and you know, come play. 86 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: A competitive series and try to take the series here 87 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got a good point too. I'm looking the 89 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: last three series. 90 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: I mean Mariners, who at that time were playing really 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: really well. They were kind of right in the midst 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: of their hot streak, and the Yankees and then I know, 93 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: you just finish up the series in La and yet 94 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: the team's still twenty two and twenty two two games 95 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: away from first place in the AL West. So I 96 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: just want to dial in on the Dodgers series for 97 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: a moment. How was that to experience, because you know, 98 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 3: they've kind of got this international vibe to them with 99 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: the way that they've been able to pick up some 100 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: of the top Japanese talent in the sport. Ya Momoto, 101 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: i know, pitched in that game a couple of days ago. 102 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: Otani put on a show in this series too, So 103 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: how was that for you to witness? Obviously you want 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: to win the series, you guys picked up one game 105 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: in it, but was it cool to actually experience what's 106 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: going on there? Because I do feel like we're going 107 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: to look back at this time at some point and 108 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: forget the wins and losses, but just how much talent 109 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: we've been seeing from Japan come over to the United 110 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: States and a lot of those players happen to be 111 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: on the Dodgers. 112 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean you have a lot of respect 113 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: for good players, you know, no matter who they're playing for, 114 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: and to see that many good players is kind of 115 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: established on one team, and they obviously have a lot 116 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: of injuries that's going on there too, But see the 117 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: lineup that they run out every night is you know, 118 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: they're one of the one of the team's perennial teams 119 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: and will be for a while. 120 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: But just seeing seeing a young guy like. 121 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: Kim taking the at bats he's taken, he got his 122 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: first home run, I mean, he's a solid player, and 123 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: Rushing made his debut too. But just just the group 124 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: that they have, it seems like they have a lot 125 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: of fun playing and they have an awesome atmosphere, awesome 126 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: stadium and fan base to play in front of them. 127 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: But that's that's kind of what makes you know, being 128 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: on the road and going to a place like that 129 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: fun is you know, kind of they're the measuring stick 130 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: of the league right now. So you know we didn't 131 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: We got the first game eleven to one and then 132 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: kind of rolled over the next two. But you know, 133 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: we know we can beat teams like that, and it's 134 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: just a matter of being consistent. 135 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 6: Who's the best team you've seen this year? You just 136 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 6: left l A. I'm not saying it's a Dodgers and 137 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 6: say who is the best team? And you're not. You're 138 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 6: not saying all they're better than the age. It's just 139 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 6: who had Who have you been the most impressed with. 140 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: I think the Cubs was probably, I mean it was early, 141 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: but their lineup was firing, and their pitching has been 142 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: been pretty solid too, So I think I think as 143 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: far as overall impression, I think that made the biggest one. 144 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: Man. 145 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 7: My question to you, Mason. I mean you've talked about, 146 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 7: you know, your teammates. I want to talk a little 147 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 7: bit about you as well. You know you got the 148 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 7: electric arm. Talk about your process. Have you always had 149 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 7: that electric arm? Is it something you've had to work 150 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 7: on over the years. I mean, talk a little bit 151 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 7: about maybe you were a good hitter, I mean did 152 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 7: you hit back in the day. Talk about how you 153 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 7: were as a hitter, and then how you absolutely developed 154 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 7: this cannon of an arm. 155 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll play into it. I say, I used 156 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: to rake when I was a little kid, but I 157 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: was a po I was a po come high school. 158 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: So I don't know if that really counts for a 159 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: whole lot, but. 160 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 7: No, it does on this show. It does for sure. 161 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah I think, yeah, yeah. 162 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: I mean I was playing I was playing short and 163 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: bat and third when I was twelve, so Yep, I'll 164 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: hang that out there. But I think I think I've 165 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: always had a smooth, smooth arm and thrown harder than 166 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: most guys from my age. 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So, Mason, I 198 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 3: want to ask you about the mental side, and I've 199 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: got you a specific way to approach this because yesterday 200 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: we just got into a really good, in depth conversation 201 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: with Max Monty on the show about hitters meetings and 202 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: how everybody has to come prepared with actual homework on 203 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: what their approach is that night against the pitcher, then 204 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: they talk it out, et cetera. So he gave us, 205 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: you know, fifteen really good minutes on how that all 206 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: goes down some of the language that's used, which many 207 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: people if they're just listening in, would not understand, right, 208 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: like the baseball terminology that they're using. So how does 209 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: it work on the pitching side, Like what do you do? 210 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: Are you looking to see what pocket you're going against, 211 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, or are you much more relying on your 212 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: catcher and obviously you know, looking at locations and pitches 213 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, or are you kind of dialing 214 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: into a player by player basis of your preparation against teams? 215 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I have honestly a pretty unique outlook 216 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: on it since I used to start and that preparation 217 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: is a lot different being a dot. You'll have to 218 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: get a guy three times maybe during an outing. But 219 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: you know, now speaking as a reliever, you know, we 220 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: have a reliever's meeting before to start every series, kind 221 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: of go through the lineup, go through you know, who's 222 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: a runner, tendencies, things like that, and the kind of 223 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: just talk about where guys missus, whether it's you know, 224 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: heaters up, heaters away, what lanes you know in or 225 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: out is better up and down? Kind of just giving 226 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: guys an idea of you know, the safe zones to 227 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: go or the you know, more optimal places to be. Obviously, 228 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: there's certain hitters like Otani where it's like, hey, the 229 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: whole box is red, don't you know, you don't don't 230 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: want to give them anything too good, But at the 231 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: same time, you don't want to just put them on 232 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: base every time. So it's just kind of about giving 233 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: guys the keys to, you know, their stuff. Everybody's stuff's different. 234 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: You know, my my holes or my zones that I'm 235 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: going to are going to be a lot different than 236 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, a guy that can you know, has a 237 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: good change up or cutter, curveball, things like that I 238 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: don't do. So it's kind of just the same way 239 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: that you know, you teach a sixth grade class and 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: you got kids that are very smart and kids that 241 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: very you know, from lower levels to middle levels everything 242 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: in between. Like everybody's in a different spot. But it's like, 243 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: how do you get it to a point where you're 244 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: meeting everybody's needs. So I think for us eight relievers, 245 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: you've got a couple guys that they're cutters, a couple 246 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: guys that throw good changeups, sinkers, et cetera. So just 247 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: kind of hit each one of those throughout the meeting. 248 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: And then I honestly think that it's a little bit 249 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: on the player too, that you know, you know yourself best, 250 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: and the way that you're going to be able to 251 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: get the guy out, you kind of have to be 252 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: able to go and look at the numbers and figure 253 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: that stuff out for yourself. So I kind of just 254 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: look at where guy's damages, you know, since I'll be 255 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: pitching and the most important part of the game most 256 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: of the time, you know, I want to know where 257 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: the guy historically has done his damage and where I 258 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: can go to get swing and miss, you know, if 259 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: I need it. So that's kind of how I approach it. 260 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: And you know, I think you're always learning to You 261 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: got different resources available to you, you know, heat maps, 262 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 2: weighted averages, all this different stuff where it can get 263 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: kind of consuming at times. But I think the sooner 264 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: you find something that works for you and just have 265 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: a process, I think that's the best. 266 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Way to do it. Mason. 267 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: I want you to look at me. 268 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 6: I want you to look at me in the eyes, 269 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 6: and next time you guys have a scatting report meeting, 270 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 6: I want you to be like cut or Slider, probably 271 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 6: throw one hundred and three. I'm a blow some cheese 272 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 6: by these nerds. That's what you need to say in 273 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: your meeting, because I know that's what's going on in 274 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 6: your head. You're like, I am this good. But you're right. 275 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 6: If you take everything that they're talking about and you 276 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 6: can start executing it, it takes you to the next level. 277 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean I do. I do approach that 278 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: that way. You know, some guys it's you know, give 279 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: me a heater until they put a good swing on that. 280 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: But I kind of the last couple of weeks struggled 281 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: a little bit with my slider command and saw that 282 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: in Miami and that ultimately led to the Grand Slam 283 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: from Stours. But it's kind of like when I do 284 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: guys a favor and don't throw anything else competitively close 285 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: to the zone and they can just gear up for 286 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: the heater and you know, I gotta throw it. I 287 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: gotta throw it in the zone at some points. So 288 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: just giving them a chance in that sense, you know, 289 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: if I'm able to mix my stuff, be in the 290 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: zone and expand the zone and then really start throwing 291 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: those those fastballs where it's like I'm coming and throwing 292 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: this fastball by you. 293 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm at my best. 294 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 6: It's called a speedball. You throw a speedball, so I'm 295 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 6: gonna throw fastball as you throw a speedball. Is there 296 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 6: somebody you watch, Like, let's say you're facing the Dodgers 297 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 6: and your lane is you know, it's not just a 298 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 6: ninth inning or whatever, it's it's one, two three in 299 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 6: that lineup? Do you do you queue up on the 300 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 6: true media on your scattering report page? 301 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 5: Do you queue up a certain picture? 302 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 6: Because I know hitters would do that, Like I would 303 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 6: never look at a you know, how somebody faces Prince 304 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 6: Field or I'm not a left handed, power hitting you 305 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 6: know monster. I would look up other backup catchers that 306 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 6: don't play much that hit right handed. How a pitcher 307 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 6: attacks them. Do you look up a certain pitcher and 308 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 6: you go, if this guy attacks them this way? 309 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 5: I think I can too. 310 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's an awesome way to do it. 311 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot of great pitchers in the league. 312 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: And for me, if I'm going to look at fastball 313 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: swing and miss and if it's you know, I could 314 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: be sinkers. Obviously, you can filter it to just four seams. 315 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: But that there's a huge variance between a ninety two 316 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: mount Our fastball and one hundred mount Our fastball, So 317 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: I usually filter it to like ninety seven and above, 318 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: and guys that I'll see a lot of, or you know, 319 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: Surez for the Padres Hellslie for the Cardinals, Chapman obviously too, 320 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: and kind of you know you'll watch it, but I 321 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, I don't. 322 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm as fastball heavy, or my fastball isn't. 323 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: Necessarily quite as dominant as a guy like Sworez, where 324 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: he's able to throw it eighty eighty five percent of 325 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: the time and still generate the swinging mess that he has. 326 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: I think ultimately at the end of the day. 327 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: You watch it like if I execute my fastball, you 328 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: know I can get this guy out and no problem. 329 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's watching guys like that that just their 330 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: execution is so good, you know, at the top, top 331 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: of the rail, in and out, that's just that's the roadmap, 332 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: you know, just get to the top and work it 333 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: in and out. 334 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: Hey, last one Mason, whatever the scouting report was for 335 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: Johnny Pareda against Shoheo Tani. 336 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if anyone. 337 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Can replicate the pitch, then getting the ball authenticated the 338 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: whole deal. So what was that like to witness and 339 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: what did the guys say to him afterward? 340 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean quite quiet clubhouse after a nineteen to 341 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: two loss, for sure, But you know, you kind of 342 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: I walked past Johnny and I gave him a little uh. 343 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: You know, if I knew that, all I had to 344 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: do was throw sixty four miles an hour and then 345 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: go hard up at the end. 346 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: You know, the whole league should have been doing this 347 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: for a while, right. 348 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: It's not that hard as a Johnny and he just laughed. 349 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: It's his third strikeout. 350 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Now. 351 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: It's unfortunate that he's had to be in as many 352 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: games as he has, but he said he wants to 353 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: get up to above ninety, above ninety miles an hour. 354 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think his pitching career this will be 355 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: the highlight. I don't really care what else he does, 356 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: but he'll have that. 357 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you could top that what he 358 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: just did. 359 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: You know in yesterday's game, And trust me, show Tan 360 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: he's not taking in a bat off. 361 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: So he got him. He got it. 362 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: I've not seen that before. That is the approach, right, 363 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: Krats sixty something down and then what was that like eighty. 364 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Five eighty nine? 365 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: I think eighty nine he hit. 366 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 5: I thought he hit eighty eight or eighty nine. 367 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been pretty he's been pretty close. He's been 368 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: pretty close to ninety. I think I think it was 369 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: a TV eighty nine. 370 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Well, dude, great to catch up. 371 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: Good luck against the Giants here coming up, and then 372 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: we'll get you again in a few weeks. 373 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: All right, awesome, guys, Good to talk to you as always. 374 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: Good stuff there. I mean, I'm enjoying these interviews Kratz. 375 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: I think this week we took a turn here where 376 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: we got a little baseball y. But you know, I'm 377 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: a nerd, so I like to hear this stuff, and 378 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: I know from the fan perspective, maybe for you guys, 379 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: you dealt with it for a long time and it 380 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: just seems like, oh whatever, we're sitting in a meeting. 381 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: Like for me in my baseball career covering the game, 382 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: the coolest parts are, say, the manager's office conversations that 383 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: I have before I call a game, right and just 384 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: hearing what they're talking about right before the game begins. 385 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: So having this with Mason and hearing how he's watching 386 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: other flamethrowers and how they attack people versus also hearing 387 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: what months he does yesterday with his hitters is pretty cool. 388 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 6: It's how you get it's how you get to the 389 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 6: next level of your ability. Not necessarily that Mason Miller 390 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 6: is going to be any better than an All Star 391 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 6: or anything like that. He's trying to figure out the 392 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 6: little things that it's going to get him to be 393 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 6: the best he can be. I guess era is a 394 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 6: little high, but he's a closer who cares about his era. 395 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 6: But just the language. If you're picking up things, he 396 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 6: said top rail. Max Munsey was talking about how pitches 397 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 6: are planing out. He was talking about how stop throwing 398 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 6: the cutter yesterday because show hey hit the dinger. Like 399 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 6: this is all conversations that happened throughout the game. It's 400 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 6: not just oh baseball, bat, go hit that John, No, 401 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 6: it's there's a lot. There's a lot of conversation, and 402 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: it's almost like another language. 403 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 5: Max said it yesterday. 404 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 6: It's another language, And to me, that's what I think 405 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: our show can bring to fans if they pay attention. 406 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 6: You're not getting this anywhere else, because it's like instant 407 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 6: access from these guys who are in it day in 408 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 6: and day. 409 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 5: Out, agreed on. 410 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 7: I got nothing else to add that out when he's 411 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: right on every little thing. 412 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: So and they like to hear from you guys too, obviously, 413 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: like I can tee up some things, but then you 414 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: guys can ask. 415 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: The follow ups that I just don't know about it, 416 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: so it helps. Thanks guys, thanks for helping me out. 417 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: It does make a difference.