WEBVTT - Danica McKellar Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>I went to two concerts in three days.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, that sounds o me left your house twice.

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<v Speaker 1>I left my house twice in one weekend, both times

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<v Speaker 1>getting back home after midnight and then waking up at

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<v Speaker 1>five point thirty in the morning to do radiation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was so worth it because I got to

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<v Speaker 1>see Sabrina Carpenter's Short and Sweet tour, which I the

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<v Speaker 1>her La shows were how she ended the tour, so

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe that I wait until the very end.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually all of October, I kept thinking, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>any time I have to take off and fly to

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else in the country and see the show early,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to see the show early. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just didn't work out that way with everything we

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<v Speaker 1>have going on, really, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, the one thing you have

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<v Speaker 4>in abundance is extra time, Danie, I know anything about you.

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<v Speaker 3>You've just got like your schedules.

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<v Speaker 1>Wide open, wide open, calendar, wide open.

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<v Speaker 5>But the tour was so great.

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<v Speaker 1>Sue Will's wife Susan went with me last night. I

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<v Speaker 1>brought some other friends with me, and I brought some

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<v Speaker 1>other girlfriends on Friday night, so we saw her at

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<v Speaker 1>Crypto Arena, which formerly known as Staple Center. Unbelieved that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way. It's not the Staple Center anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the Staple Center anymore. It's Crypto dot Com Arena.

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<v Speaker 4>It rolls as to tom different corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>I also, I do want you guys to know that

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<v Speaker 1>I win the Crypto bought Staples. I was like, give

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<v Speaker 1>me a break, I will never ever call it Crypto

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<v Speaker 1>dot com Arena.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, guess who flipped a switch.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember going to a Springsteen concert there when it

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<v Speaker 2>was first Staples and him doing a whole bit from

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<v Speaker 2>the stage like why is this place called Staples, And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I can't wait to meet mister Staples. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like this old bit because it was so weird back there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the first to be named after

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<v Speaker 2>a corporation. But I'm totally right now it's crypt Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's Crypto, So look at it this way. In another

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<v Speaker 2>month it's gonna be worth half as much.

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<v Speaker 3>So nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be great, But I do the show is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Next year she'll be doing a European leg of the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have not seen the show. It's really truly

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful. The set is gorgeous. She does these very

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<v Speaker 1>cool vignettes. You know, writer, you got to know Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>very well. You know, she's an incredible storyteller, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>great actor. Nothing with her is like, oh yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just do the very basic pop star thing. Like everything

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<v Speaker 1>is well thought out and it's just so well done.

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<v Speaker 5>I absolutely loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, sobbed through the first show and then

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<v Speaker 1>actually really got to enjoy the second show. And she

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<v Speaker 1>is annoyed with me because I keep talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Forum cake.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you've ever been in the Forum.

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<v Speaker 1>Club, which is like the lounge as part of the Forum, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool enough to have them.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I don't think I've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably every time you go to before, but literally don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it would have been in the Forum.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So when artists perform there, they make a cake,

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<v Speaker 1>a big cake with the artist's face on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years now a little over ten years, I

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<v Speaker 1>have known Sabrina And every time I've been to the

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<v Speaker 1>Forum in those ten years and I see an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>I take a picture of their cake, and every time

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<v Speaker 1>I send it to Sabrina and I say, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the Sabrina cake. I can't wait until someday

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<v Speaker 1>we're eating the Sabrina cake. And so I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>crying me back. But so when I knew she was

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<v Speaker 1>doing the Forum I was so excited about the Forum cake.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even eat the cake last night. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about eating cake. It's about I don't even like cake.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the fact that this was such a milestone

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<v Speaker 1>and to see her reach this level and to have been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just knowing she would get there eventually, and

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to take pictures. And then yesterday someone told me,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, oh Danielle.

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<v Speaker 5>Cares about is this stupid cake?

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<v Speaker 6>But literally a superstar. Also, I also a gazillion records.

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<v Speaker 6>I was nominated for Acre face is on a freaking cake. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 6>but I've got a sheet cake with my face on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it really represented something to me, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>very excited. So literally I walked into the Forum Club

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I gotta find the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>So out we'll post the picture of the Sabrina Carpenter

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<v Speaker 1>Forum Cake on our Instagram for you all to see.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go to the next one. I want to go

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<v Speaker 4>to her Tall tour. I think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait for that. That's the one I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Good lucks, little short and sweet girls. We don't get

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<v Speaker 1>very tall, we definitely get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want that cake. I remember working with her the

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<v Speaker 2>first first year, you know, meeting her. She was probably twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>she was thirteen, Yeah, she was thirteen when okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>I came and visited. I remember the there's a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, because I just came and visited

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<v Speaker 2>this the pilot and it was like, oh, I meet

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<v Speaker 2>the new girls or whatever, and there's a photo of

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<v Speaker 2>the two of us. And then I got to work

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<v Speaker 2>with her and actually, you know, act with her, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, she's just such.

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<v Speaker 3>A great actress.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had no idea about the singing until I

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<v Speaker 2>was directing the episode that was nineteen sixty three where

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<v Speaker 2>it was like we went back in time to the

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<v Speaker 2>sixties and at the table read, she just sang acapella.

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<v Speaker 2>This you know, they had written lyrics, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a song, and she sang acappella and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that was that was perfect because I was worried, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to, you know, figure out a song and

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<v Speaker 2>incorporate it. And Ray Colecord, the late great Ray colecrd

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<v Speaker 2>uh just I met with him afterwards. I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing about this song? He's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wrote down what she sang, like the notes

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<v Speaker 2>she sang. He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna write the

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<v Speaker 2>song to what she did a cappella because she was

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<v Speaker 2>just that good and and I remember talking to her

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<v Speaker 2>about music. I even like, I wrote her like this

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<v Speaker 2>long Spotify list with like the reasons why I was

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<v Speaker 2>including all these songs that I could tell. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you were going to be like, I'm already you're a

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<v Speaker 2>great actress. But like I could tell, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>you you have this musical thing too, you can do

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<v Speaker 2>it all. Yeah, I wonder because I remember then, like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years later, she still had the playlist

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<v Speaker 2>on her Spotify.

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<v Speaker 3>She was really nice. There's so few of us triple

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<v Speaker 3>threats like that out there. Yeah, you know, we got

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<v Speaker 3>to stick together. We got to stick together support one another.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right strong, and I'm Wilfordell.

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<v Speaker 1>For one hundred and fourteen episodes of television over five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest this week was one of the most iconic

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture characters.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the late eighties and early nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been hard to find someone who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know or a boy who didn't love Winnie Cooper, the

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<v Speaker 1>unattainable love interest for Kevin Arnold on The Wonder Years,

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<v Speaker 1>and those who knew her in real life figured out

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<v Speaker 1>she was just as kind, impressive, and beautiful as she

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<v Speaker 1>was on screen. And we didn't do a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>research into this. But she's also probably our only guest

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<v Speaker 1>to have a mathematical theorem with her name on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't worry, Blake, Senate, there's still time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she is an actual genius who outside of Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>graduated UCLA with their highest honors in mathematics, and once

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<v Speaker 1>co authored a paper titled Percolation and Gibbs states multiplicity

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<v Speaker 1>for Pharaoh magnetic Ashkin Teller's models on Z to the second.

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<v Speaker 1>While I genuinely have no idea what any of those

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<v Speaker 1>words meant, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Her conclusions are ridiculous in that paper.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, is that your favorite of person?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just don't know how she You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>all for a theorem, but I don't know where she

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<v Speaker 4>came up with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just she was z in the second. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what you.

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<v Speaker 7>Keep? You know you keep?

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, come on, come on, rookie mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>She appeared in the movie Sidekicks, and was seen on

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows like The West Wing and Big Bang Theory,

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<v Speaker 1>and has since become a Queen of Christmas, starring in

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<v Speaker 1>some of your favorite festive flicks, including a new one

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<v Speaker 1>just around the corner.

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<v Speaker 5>Please welcome to Pod meets World.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting by with a little help from our friend

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<v Speaker 1>Danica McKellar.

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<v Speaker 5>So good to see you.

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<v Speaker 7>Good to see you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm sure a lot of our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are brains are exploding with a nostalgia seeing the four

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<v Speaker 1>of us together on their screens.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh. That cool. So good to see you, guys,

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<v Speaker 7>So good to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to talk to you about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that is this correct that your very first job was

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<v Speaker 1>The Twilight Zone, but your second role ever was Winnie

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper on The Wonder Years at twelve.

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<v Speaker 7>Sort of. I did two episodes of the Twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'd done some commercials, some mashup commercials, but that

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<v Speaker 7>was my first like theatrical like non guest dying role.

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<v Speaker 2>Wowt pretty good one to get.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all say, yeah, what was the audition process?

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<v Speaker 7>Like, I mean, it was kind of a last minute

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<v Speaker 7>thing because I was I didn't have many credits to

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<v Speaker 7>my name at all, and so they had done this

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<v Speaker 7>search for the character. And I remember the winning Cooper

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<v Speaker 7>was supposed to just be a guest role on the

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<v Speaker 7>first episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh come on, really, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>You gonna say, like Topanga, Wow, Oh.

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<v Speaker 7>Is that the for you too? Yes, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 7>that's amazing. I didn't know that. Yeah. So that's the

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<v Speaker 7>only reason that my mom left me audition for it,

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<v Speaker 7>because at the time we were not considering anything that

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<v Speaker 7>might disrupt our lives. Really, like that was not uh

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<v Speaker 7>it was guest roles commercials only, no feature films, no

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<v Speaker 7>series regulars, and so this was just the That's why

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<v Speaker 7>I got to audition for it. That's why I was

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<v Speaker 7>even eligible to audition for it in terms of it

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<v Speaker 7>because I, like I said, I had no credits. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 7>I I auditioned, bought my sister auditioned for it as well.

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<v Speaker 7>It came down to the two of us and for

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<v Speaker 7>this for this one time guest rule relatively small part

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<v Speaker 7>on the first episode, if you remember, Winnie Cooper was

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<v Speaker 7>kind of seen from afar. There wasn't like there was

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<v Speaker 7>a kiss at the end, but there wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of lines. And yeah, I came down to the

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<v Speaker 7>two of us, and I remember they Fred Savage lived

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<v Speaker 7>in Chicago at the time, and so they'd flown him

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<v Speaker 7>out to do like a chemistry read and so Crystal

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<v Speaker 7>and I both did that, my sister and I and

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<v Speaker 7>they came down to the two of us, and and

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<v Speaker 7>then they said, well, we're giving the role to Danica,

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<v Speaker 7>but if we get picked up for Stu, then we'd

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<v Speaker 7>love to give a role to Crystal as well. And

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<v Speaker 7>then during the pilot of The Wonder Years, they said, look,

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<v Speaker 7>the network loves the chemistry between Danik and Fred and

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<v Speaker 7>we want to offer her a series regular like if

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<v Speaker 7>we get picked up. And so the time, like at

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<v Speaker 7>that point, my mom had a chance to meet some

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<v Speaker 7>of the other moms, Juanne Savage, Jane Saviano, these women

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<v Speaker 7>who really cared about their kids being kids. They weren't

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<v Speaker 7>stage moms, you know, So she felt comfortable with it,

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<v Speaker 7>but she had she got me this fancy lawyer to

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<v Speaker 7>put in a loophole because I ever wanted to not

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<v Speaker 7>do it anymore, like you can get out because it's

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<v Speaker 7>a seven year contract, and so she she protected me,

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<v Speaker 7>but I never wanted to quit.

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<v Speaker 5>So, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 7>And then they did write a role for Crystal Becky Slater.

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<v Speaker 7>She played the Bred's or Kevin's nemesis, and she did

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<v Speaker 7>nine episodes, I think, which was cool.

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<v Speaker 5>So what was your life on set like then as

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<v Speaker 5>a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go to traditional school as well or did

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<v Speaker 1>you were you just schooled on set?

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<v Speaker 7>I did both. I went back and forth. So I

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<v Speaker 7>went to Harvard Westlake. Okay, first it was Westlake then

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<v Speaker 7>and became Harvard Westlake. And I would go to school

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<v Speaker 7>when I wasn't working, and then I'd run my school

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<v Speaker 7>work to set when I was working. And we did

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<v Speaker 7>it like that. It was just back and forth.

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<v Speaker 6>It was it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It trained me to be able to like compartmentalize my brain.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean just being on as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 7>being doing school on set is like that anyway, because

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<v Speaker 7>you're doing this scene and then you take a break

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<v Speaker 7>for twenty minutes. Now you're doing a history test or

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<v Speaker 7>like math concepts, go back and now this is the

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<v Speaker 7>emotional part of the scene whatever. Like you just learned

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<v Speaker 7>to like be here now and then be here now,

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<v Speaker 7>and it trains you. It's funny because so the movies

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<v Speaker 7>that I do now, these romantic comedies in the Christmas movies,

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<v Speaker 7>first for Hamewark Channel, now for a Great American Family Channel.

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<v Speaker 7>We shoot these movies in fourteen days. Sometimes it's fourteen

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<v Speaker 7>or fifteen days. It's a crazy schedule, and you have

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<v Speaker 7>to be like, Okay, I'm here doing this scene now,

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<v Speaker 7>and then now we're doing the end of the movie,

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<v Speaker 7>and now we're doing this little blip from like midway

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<v Speaker 7>through the movie. And as you guys know, it just

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<v Speaker 7>takes this kind of this focus and you have to

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<v Speaker 7>be able to just be where you are now and

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<v Speaker 7>completely shut out all the rest of reality so that

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<v Speaker 7>you can do your job well. And then later Galla

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<v Speaker 7>gets cut together and it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So the show was such a massive hit for ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always in the top thirty, and it won

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<v Speaker 1>an Emmy for Best Comedy Series in nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Was it difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>For you to have a normal childhood or do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you got the best of both.

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<v Speaker 7>Worlds Alsiman, We had a very normal childhood because, for example,

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<v Speaker 7>when we won the Emmy for Best Comedy Series, my

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<v Speaker 7>sister and I were not there at the awards ceremony.

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<v Speaker 7>We were on vacation with my dad because we had

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<v Speaker 7>this vacation plan. He's a busy real estate guy. He

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<v Speaker 7>didn't have flexibility, and so we had to either go

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<v Speaker 7>to the Emmys or go on this camping river rafting

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<v Speaker 7>trip thing with my dad. And we did that, and

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<v Speaker 7>we talked about it as a family. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 7>this is more important. And I remember I remember being

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<v Speaker 7>in this tiny little motel room the night before we

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<v Speaker 7>hit the river, watching the Emmys on this like it

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<v Speaker 7>had to have been a TV from the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 7>My dad was always very frugal, so you know, we

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<v Speaker 7>didn't stay in like it's retain this hotel and everybody

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<v Speaker 7>was like this old yellow little TV. And we watched

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<v Speaker 7>The Wonderers win and we jumped up and down the

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<v Speaker 7>bed like yay. We woke up next morning, like five

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<v Speaker 7>in the morning and hit the river and had the

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<v Speaker 7>trip of our lives. I mean, I remember so many

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<v Speaker 7>details about that trip. I remember solving like these minute

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<v Speaker 7>mysteries at night around the campfire. I remember picking blackberries

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<v Speaker 7>on the side of the river, and that just is

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<v Speaker 7>so emblematic of how I was raised. That the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 7>stuff was not this. There wasn't a big emphasis on

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<v Speaker 7>how important it was, or how glamorous it was, or

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<v Speaker 7>how you know, how that defined me at all. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>so lucky to have had parents who weren't overly impressed

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<v Speaker 7>with it all, and who really cared about us being

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<v Speaker 7>kids first. I mean, you know, as evanced by the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that I wasn't allowed to audition for series regulars.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, my mom and my dad both had a

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<v Speaker 7>sense of like, Okay, this is all great, but we're

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<v Speaker 7>not going to just take over her childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>So where did the desire to do it in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place come from? Was it just like local theater

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<v Speaker 2>or acting classes? How did you and your sister get

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<v Speaker 2>into it?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, my gosh. I mean, my mom was a professional

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<v Speaker 7>dancer before we were born, and so she had a

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<v Speaker 7>dance studio that we took lessons in when we were

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<v Speaker 7>very young. And she was also friends with Leslie and Warren,

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<v Speaker 7>who is an actress who did like the original Cinderella.

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<v Speaker 7>Speaking of Cinderella, I have to reach out to her

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<v Speaker 7>actually about that. Anyway, Leslie and Warren wonderful woman, and

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<v Speaker 7>she The story goes that I was sitting on the

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<v Speaker 7>floor of my mom's dance studio, staring at myself in

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<v Speaker 7>the mirror, making faces at myself, and then Leslie said, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>that's an actress. No, that was And then and then

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<v Speaker 7>my mom she moved us up to Los Angeles because

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<v Speaker 7>she was getting into like producing music videos and stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's funny because that never really took off. But

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<v Speaker 7>at Leslie's suggestion, my sister and I tried acting classes

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<v Speaker 7>and we loved it. We went to Lee Strasburg and Stupid.

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<v Speaker 7>It's so much fun. It was singing and dancing, acting,

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<v Speaker 7>it was it was camera work, it was theater work.

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<v Speaker 7>It was like an all day thing on Saturdays. And

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<v Speaker 7>I remember my mom said that she felt back. She's like,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm dropping them off for so long. But the end

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<v Speaker 7>of the day we didn't want to go. Oh we

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<v Speaker 7>had so much fun. So then we did some theater

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<v Speaker 7>there when we were like six and seven years old,

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<v Speaker 7>and then after that we got an agent came to

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<v Speaker 7>one of those shows and started doing commercials and there

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<v Speaker 7>you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, where was your first commercial?

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<v Speaker 7>It was for a nineteen eighty five Volkswagen Golf car

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<v Speaker 7>and it was I was just a family getting out

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<v Speaker 7>of the car. It was supposed to show how big

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<v Speaker 7>the car was on the inside, because I guess they

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<v Speaker 7>were known for being small cars, Like no, no, there's lots

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<v Speaker 7>of space, and so we all like piled out of

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<v Speaker 7>this car like a clothing car.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you think, you think of exactly, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean you have to pause to see my face

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<v Speaker 7>because I remember my mom saying, oh, the mother in

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<v Speaker 7>this new head of find the camera because she's like

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<v Speaker 7>getting stuff out of the trunk and she turns her

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<v Speaker 7>head towards the camera to get into stuff out and

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, just I had no clue. And basically

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<v Speaker 7>I was like it was like she was holding this

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<v Speaker 7>speech ball and I had pigtails. You could see meet

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<v Speaker 7>my pigtails from behind the ball. And then she moved

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<v Speaker 7>the ball and there I was with.

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<v Speaker 5>Pause, there's there's her face. Yeah, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, similar to me and Topanga, your first episode

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<v Speaker 1>had a kiss on screen.

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<v Speaker 5>What was that experience?

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<v Speaker 7>Like for you, Well, that was my first kiss in

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<v Speaker 7>real life too. Yes, how old were you when I

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<v Speaker 7>had that?

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<v Speaker 5>Twelve?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, wow, parallel lives, Yes, it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was exciting and nerve wracking. I mean at the

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<v Speaker 7>time I had a massive crush on Fred, so that

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<v Speaker 7>worked out. But it was embarrassing because you're like a

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<v Speaker 7>preteen about to have your first kiss and there's all

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<v Speaker 7>these people watching.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, including all your family.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yes, my family and not all my family well

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<v Speaker 7>well eventually my family. It was there at that moment

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<v Speaker 7>outside with us, with the Harper's Woods and the village,

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<v Speaker 7>the uh, the video village was right there, and like

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<v Speaker 7>everybody was just there, you know, and trying to have

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<v Speaker 7>my first kiss over here people can we.

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<v Speaker 4>And you both kissed the Savage for your first time.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean just the parallels are pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>My my parents were there, but also my grandparents were there,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was literally was like it truly felt like

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<v Speaker 1>this is not usually how I would have chosen for

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<v Speaker 1>a first kiss.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this brings up an important distinction though, is

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<v Speaker 2>that we were a multi camera sit and Wonder Years

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<v Speaker 2>was single camera, so it's actually, you know, even though

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of parallels, you were living a

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<v Speaker 2>very different day to day lifestyle. You were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you would shoot a scene, you'd get the pages, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then shoot that scene that did never have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it again, whereas we would be rehearsing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all week long, and then it would just be.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, did you rehearse the kiss? Like, did you kiss

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<v Speaker 7>in the rehearsals?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, for at least the run throughs. We didn't kiss

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily all day.

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<v Speaker 1>During the the rehearsals, but I think it run throughs

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<v Speaker 1>we did the kiss, and then on tape night it

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<v Speaker 1>was still like a really.

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<v Speaker 7>Big deal, yeah, right, because then you've got the live audience.

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<v Speaker 5>Right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We had two hundred people in the audience, my grandparents included.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we were outside in the woods, you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 7>on that rock, and and and also and Fred and

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<v Speaker 7>I both wear glasses, and we didn't have our glasses on.

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<v Speaker 7>We were shooting, and we didn't work. We were like

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<v Speaker 7>too young for contact or something anyway, so we couldn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Really it was like this haze of people, which is

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<v Speaker 7>actually probably good yestive as clearly because just a crowd

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<v Speaker 7>of people just you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching Where's kiss? First kiss should be blurry? I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I should be blurry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you go to shoot Wonder Years? You were

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Yeah, but were you?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean we shot we were we had since we

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<v Speaker 7>had sound stages in Culver City eventually, but we shot

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<v Speaker 7>the the neighborhoods were in Burbank and which is Los

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<v Speaker 7>Angeles for those listening, part of Los Angeles. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we just had we had locations, we were all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's very and so what Yeah, what was your

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<v Speaker 1>your typical day then? Like I know, on a single

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<v Speaker 1>cam it kind of changes day to day and your

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<v Speaker 1>location changes.

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<v Speaker 5>But we've talked a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>For our listeners about what our schedule was. We started

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<v Speaker 1>on our week started on Fridays, we would do a

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<v Speaker 1>table read, we'd rehearse for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Every day was probably very different.

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<v Speaker 1>But could you walk us through a pretty typical day

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<v Speaker 1>for you on set?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. For the days that I was working kids, I

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<v Speaker 7>would literally work maybe two days out of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>The other three days I was going to my school.

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<v Speaker 7>I was bouncing back and forth and back forth. The

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<v Speaker 7>thing that was unsettling about that, honestly, is that like

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<v Speaker 7>they would say, okay, well there's a history of test

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<v Speaker 7>next Friday, and I would have no idea if I

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<v Speaker 7>was going to be there for it or not. All right,

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<v Speaker 7>I wasn't giving my schedules till sometimes the night before.

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't know if I was working.

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<v Speaker 5>So he teach you to be like, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's flexible.

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<v Speaker 7>And uh and ready for anything. A lot of interesting

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<v Speaker 7>skill there and this young person.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you guys would have on super early morning

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<v Speaker 2>calls sometimes right like you would be yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 7>We would always do like too bad. It wasn't well,

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<v Speaker 7>it wasn't as a as a kid, they didn't bring

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<v Speaker 7>in too early. They would bring the parents in early summer.

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<v Speaker 7>Dan and Ali played the parents. I'd get there and

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<v Speaker 7>they were already they'd already shot sometimes by so I

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<v Speaker 7>don't weber being called earlier than eight as a kid,

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<v Speaker 7>whereas you know, Allie Mills would have been there at

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<v Speaker 7>six thirty and here in magup right, and now that's me,

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<v Speaker 7>now I get it was not It was not too early.

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 7>It was pretty reasonable. And we only worked nine and

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<v Speaker 7>a half hours, and that was including lunch and including

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.239
<v Speaker 7>the three hours of school, so we were and they

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 7>did a really good job of protecting us, so we

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 7>were not overworked and and but but that meant that

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 7>we often didn't shoot with each other. So another thing

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 7>that's very it's different from what you guys experienced, is

0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 7>that because it was single, Cameron because he had to

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<v Speaker 7>get three hours, had to get three hours to school

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<v Speaker 7>work done. And that was the most challenging brand because

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 7>he was in so like basically all those scenes, and

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<v Speaker 7>and so I was often on my close ups, he

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<v Speaker 7>was never there. And then photo and the foul worked

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 7>a lot too and also needed uh schoolwork. So sometimes

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.880
<v Speaker 7>it was a single, clean single I'd be literally working

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<v Speaker 7>to a piece of tape. And I remember there's one scene,

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<v Speaker 7>there's one episode of It's called a Mad Mad Madline

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<v Speaker 7>World where it was a field trip we were we

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<v Speaker 7>shot at a Griffith Observatory and I remember my close

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.360
<v Speaker 7>up in this scene with like five people, and there's

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<v Speaker 7>four pieces of tape and the trew smile and pieces

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 7>on I knew which tape was each person in the scene.

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<v Speaker 7>And Kirk Trutner, who read the voice of the narration

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 7>while we were shooting it, he would he did all

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.679
<v Speaker 7>the different voices and he would change his voice slightly.

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 7>He was super talented voice actor that we were lucky

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 7>to have on set with us because he was the

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<v Speaker 7>voice of the narration. He would later be recorded by

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 7>Daniel Stern. He was there to guide us through it

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.479
<v Speaker 7>and you Also, the other interesting skills that that I

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 7>you guys probably didn't have to learn is because of narration,

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 7>is that when you're not the one having the thoughts,

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.919
<v Speaker 7>you just have to kind of suspend yourself in that moment. Yeah, right,

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 7>suspended where you are as Bread was getting to act

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 7>the thought that we're hearing.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, you couldn't even act it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, why I wasn't having those thoughts. I was just right.

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 7>It's like an avatar that's kind of waiting for the

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<v Speaker 7>next instruction. Hey, in the moment, there's almost like, you know,

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 7>like you're shooting something and they're like, wait, come in,

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 7>we fix a hair like wall, but you're still in

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 7>the middle of the scene and they walk off there

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 7>and continue. It's like being that suspending moment. So that's

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 7>a lot in those kinds of situations where there's some

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 7>shuan set that fixed something in the background. We have

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<v Speaker 7>to keep shooting, and I just have to stay where

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 7>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, something we all had to learn holding for laughs

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.679
<v Speaker 2>because that's c you have to sit there. And what

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 2>you realize, you know, especially as a kid or an

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>actor who's never done that, you just want to keep

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 2>playing the scene. But what you realize is that everybody

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of like turns off and just holds for to

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>laugh because if you keep playing the scene, the laugh

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>will actually stop. They'll think something else is going to happen.

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 7>Right, And at the beginning of whatever you were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and I've seen it now, like you work

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>with you know, new actors that haven't done it, and

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>you have to teach them like no, no, no, no, it's

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 2>like it's like reality stops and it's actually more realistic

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 2>for you to just hold your facial expression for thirty

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>seconds or whatever. It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 4>You come to realize though, that that's that's the audience's line.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, I mean, that's that's the laugh. Is their line.

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.360
<v Speaker 4>So you're just essentially reacting to another to their yeah.

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Giving their line out and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm curious, So you the show is obviously a

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 4>smash hit, but this is all pre internet and pre

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 4>social media. When did you realize kind of what you

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 4>were doing in the culturalegeist.

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 7>It's funny because in six seasons and the last season,

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 7>somebody on set asked me what it was like to

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 7>be America's sweetheart. And I had no idea what they

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 7>were talking about. It was clueless, Like what what do

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 7>you what do you mean? I mean, I was so

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 7>busy working, but mostly going to school, you know, a studying.

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 7>I mean I I you know, I went to this

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 7>difficult I mean, Harvard was no walk to the park

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 7>and and you know it prepared me for being a

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 7>math major at U c l A afterwards and all

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 7>all the rest of it. So it was it was

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 7>I was so busy doing that and I was not.

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 7>I was a very I was a good girl. I

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 7>was I didn't go to parties and stuff. I was

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 7>just And even if I did go to a party,

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 7>like nobody was offering me drugs, Like nobody because they

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 7>just could tell I really couldn't.

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 4>This is this is a waste of drugs.

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 7>So it's sorority party is at U c l A.

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 7>I was like, and I would go to a fraternity

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.479
<v Speaker 7>party like maybe once a year, and like, oh, this

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 7>is why I don't usually go. I would take a

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 7>beer cant like because I was so people would just

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 7>pressure you, Oh why aren't you drinking? So I take

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 7>your can, dump it out filled up with water, in

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 7>the bathroom with one of these frat houses, and then

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 7>drink that all night. And then people would not write.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 5>People wouldn't bother you.

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 7>Then they beat they'd leave me alone. Yeah. So I

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 7>was just always a good two shoes, which I have

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 7>no problem with. I e. I wasn't mean or judgmental people.

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 7>I just like to you.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 4>Didn't even like cigarette smoking. I remember that distinctly.

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 7>Yes, Oh my gosh. Okay, so there was So we

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 7>have a mutual friend Jason Marson, who I think was

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 7>trying to set us up. But you smoked, and I.

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 4>Told you, yeah, You're like I'm not going to date

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 4>you because you smoke cigarettes.

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, all right, I will continue dating

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>camera lalth.

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Not you don't get any of my camel.

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Bucks, then exactly I could have showered you in camel cash,

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 4>but whatever. Yeah, it's fine. I could have made it

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 4>rain with the camel cash.

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 3>But no, it is like no yet, No, I remember that.

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>It was like, it's not it's not going to happen.

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>You smoke, and I was like, all right.

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>You'll be happy to know Will is ten years free

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of cigarettes, so everyone can enjoye ten years.

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 5>It's been really difficult. Breathe better.

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 7>You probably exercise more, Yeah, but at what cost? So

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 7>I tried a cigarette once when I was eighteen, and

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 7>it was like so good and nutty and satisfying. I

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 7>was like, okay, I'm never touching that again.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 3>It was exactly the opposite reaction.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 7>I supposed not like it the first time you try it,

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 7>and its like if I like it the first time

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 7>I try it, then that's bad news.

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 5>That's bad news for you.

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 3>I can see why people do this.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I feel this, and I have been I better

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 7>not yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Wonder Years ended, did you find it hard

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to be seen as anything other than Winnie Cooper? Did

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>you have a hard time breaking out of the like

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>child actor stigma?

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 7>Well that's a good question. I mean, I I still

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 7>am recognized Cooper like that's so. Did I have a

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 7>hard time breaking out of it?

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 5>I never did, never did, but it's okay.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 7>It was. It was confusing when I first went So

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 7>I the Wonder Years ended and I started UCLA within

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 7>a few months of each other, and so I was like, Okay,

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 7>new chapter of my life. I'm moving on with my life,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 7>and everyone else will do that with me too.

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 5>They're all going to move on to.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 7>Everywhere I went on campus whatever, people like, oh my gosh, hey, Whinny,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 7>where's Fred? And you know the riche Kevin and and

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 7>uh and that girl friend that show. Oh my gosh, dude,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 7>look it's that girl from that show. It's like over

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 7>and you guys are I'm sure that guy from that

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 7>show that girlfriend right, yeah, oh yeah, you're like grew up,

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, and you're you're that girl played Winny and

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 7>and so I had a big turning point at UCLA

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 7>where I kind of like I just needed to know

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 7>who else I was. And at the time I was

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 7>considering being a film major. And then I had taken

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 7>a math class. I always loved a good challenge, and

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 7>so I took this mathlas multi variable calculus because I'd

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 7>taken single variable calculus in a Harbor West life, and

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 7>so that was the math that I passed into. I'm like,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 7>oh my gosh, college math, this is gonna be so hard.

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 7>But just I just I just have to see what

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 7>it is like. Let's just see what that would be like, right,

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 7>And I did really really well, and uh the first

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 7>midterm I studied so hard too, I really I put

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 7>everything into it and it paid off. First midterm, Remember,

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 7>I thought, oh my gosh, I failed. Right, I got

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 7>a twenty two out of forty. But apparently it was

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 7>some sort of weader test because the professor like grafted

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 7>the scores on the chalkboard. There was one twenty two.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 7>This is a class of one hundred and sixty three people.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 7>There was one twenty two if there were two fifteen's

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 7>and the rest was nine and below. I'm like, I'm

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 7>looking at my test, like that's that's me, And there's

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 7>all these people who looked much more like math people

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 7>than me. I don't know how to say it, but

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 7>they just I thought, well, those people, I'm sure I

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 7>can tell that they're gonna.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're gonna aice this.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly. They all look like they belong here, and

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 7>I do not feel like I belong in this class.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 7>And that was a good lesson for me, like, oh, okay,

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 7>I guess maybe I do belong to this class. The

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 7>next day, I had someone tap me on the shoulder

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 7>in that class and say excuse me under that girl.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 7>And I figured they were gonna say from the morning,

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 7>who got the twenty two? I was like, it is me.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 7>And that teacher told me, he's like, you have a gift.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 7>You need to pursue this. You know, you guys weren't

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 7>supposed to do this well and what's going on? And

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 7>so it was like it was just music to my ears.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 7>I felt so from from being associated with something. It

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 7>was over. It was the one years was done and

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 7>so and it makes you, as you, guys, I'm sure

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 7>have experienced to some extent at some point. Who else

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 7>would I be if I didn't have this character? What

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 7>would my value be if I didn't have this show

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 7>and this character that everybody loves, like who also want

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 7>to be? And so I got to find out by

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 7>I just I decided to quit acting because I was

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 7>still trying to do like I done a TV movie

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 7>up in Vancouver and the Moment of Truth movies on NBC.

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 7>You guys did any of those anyway? I did one

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 7>and then I came back and it was this was

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 7>before I took that math class, and I was like, okay,

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm ready to to do a makeup mid term and

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 7>they're like, no, you can't do that. We give you

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 7>an incomplete I'm like what I was like, Oh wait,

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 7>maybe you can't really straddle these two worlds. So anyway,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 7>as I really fell in love with math, I was like, Okay,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 7>I'm not going to be a film major. I can

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 7>do that later if I want to, and you know,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 7>learned behind the scenes, behind the camera stuff, and I'm

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 7>just going to do math. I'm just going to see

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 7>what that is. And it felt so good. I wore

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 7>no makeup to school. I would wear like jeans and

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 7>a T shirt and my hair and pointing tail, and

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 7>I wore my backpack with two straps and I was over.

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 7>And I would walk to camp like across campus, and

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 7>I just felt so a lot of the professors and

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 7>then the math apartment didn't even have TVs. They had no

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 7>idea who I was. And it was perfect. I went

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 7>from that girl on that show to like that girl

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 7>who helped me pass calculus because I was I was

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 7>a tutor in the math apart I met at that

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 7>point and it just felt so right. I felt really good,

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 7>and it gave me this whole other base. But I

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 7>remember it was interesting when I came back to acting

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 7>and I would go into auditions and I would have

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 7>these casting directories. I'm not going to name any names.

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 7>I won't who were like, oh, so, how have you been?

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 7>You know. That was the time of I'm not a

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 7>writer and like the shoplifting and all that stuff and

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 7>the child stress did not have a good name, right,

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 7>you've been like everything? Okay, I'm like, yeah, no, no,

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 7>we haven't seen you in a while. I'm like, yeah,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 7>yeh know. I was at college like, oh, that's that's great.

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 5>For you, for you who are.

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 7>Like a theater major. It was like and I loved

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 7>this moment, just this little moment in time so delicious,

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 7>Like actually, mathematics and I it's like, what you know,

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 7>for some reason, I just loved that stilly. I don't know.

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm curious. I have to ask why maths.

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 7>Because it gave me this other sense of identity. It

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 7>gave me because it's hard, it's challenging, and I was

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 7>doing well at it. So I felt valuable for something

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 7>that had nothing to do with winning Cooper I got.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 7>I felt the value of like I felt like kick

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 7>ass for something that's just in my brain something that I.

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, were you were you attracted to math your

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 4>whole life, because again I mean, you could.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Have done that with it. You could have been an archaeologists.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 3>You could have been And so why maths?

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 7>Well, I love puzzles and any times I love solving things,

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 7>I always have to this day I do all The

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 7>New York Times calls you the connections and Wortle and

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 7>me too, selling me yeah all that stuff. Connections is

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 7>actually right now my favorite. I pretty much addicted to it.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 7>And if I do it after a minute, like turn

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 7>it the next day, I don't have it. I've already

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 7>done it. Anyway, I love puzzles. I love, I just love.

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 7>I love the beauty of math. Math is not a science.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 7>It's a language. So it's much more fiwer than the sciences.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 7>Sciences are like open term interpretation. People keep discovering things

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 7>that disprove what they used to know, and like that's

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 7>that's kind of defined science. And so with math, it's

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 7>really an exploration of the human mind in a lot

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 7>of ways. It's the patterns and the games that we

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 7>get to play. It's like check simple rules, but the

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 7>strategies are endless and so with math, it's these simple rules.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 7>There's like seven axioms or something, and then everything is

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 7>built from there. And I homeschool my son, Draco, who's fourteen,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 7>and we're now doing algebra two. It's so much fun.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 7>By the way, I've written math books now, but I

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 7>read that night to my son.

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 5>Bathtime math time is a regular in our house.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Really.

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I love that.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 7>I love that. Yes I have. I have eleven math books.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 7>They're all at mckellermath dot com. You can go there

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 7>and you can there's this big slider button. I'm very

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 7>proud of where depending on the age of your child,

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 7>I have the book that I recommend her books and yeah,

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 7>I've got I got let's see, do I have that.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 5>One bathtime math time? My son loves.

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, there it is, that's where has to start.

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still there.

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and I teach I have like this one is

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 7>for multiplication and division, so third and fourth grade, the

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 7>times machine, times tables, and yes there is time travel

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 7>because you know, I mean, I'm an entertainer, so I

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 7>like to make math entertaining. It's it's about you know,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 7>stories and just you know, like I come up and

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 7>have like different rhymes and things to help kids memorize

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 7>their multiplication facts, which is super important.

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Four did you get rid of that?

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 8>One?

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 4>Was?

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Four? Yes?

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 7>Trust you?

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes it was full.

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 5>Never trusted. I've never trusted math.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you say you have like an expertise in math? Like,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>what would your expertise be if you had to say, one.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 7>Teaching math to kids, making math fun, and teaching math

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 7>through stories and characters and making it not scary anymore,

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 7>it would be what I would say. My my superpower is.

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>See my mom would have really benefited from you had

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you been able to help my mom when she was

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a kid. My mom somehow ended up in the wrong

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>math class in high school. She like, I think, walked

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>into the wrong classroom and no one ever or noticed

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't supposed to be there, and the teacher it

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>was like algebra, and and she literally thought it was

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>a joke. When they started adding letters into this, she

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, that's funny. Is what's that X doing

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in there? And then she was like, oh, other people

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>are answering this. And she just thought she was She

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>hadn't taken the class that led before it. She just

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>thought she was incapable of learning, and she just stayed

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the entire year and failed, and from that moment on

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>truly traumatized by math. She was like, I'm afraid and

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it well.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 7>Like I said, it's a language, and if it's not

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 7>translated properly, then it's like reading Chinese, and it's scary.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 7>It's scary when you're doing something that's so foreign. So

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 7>that's why I try to make it like not foreign

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 7>and make it just bring it into the world of kids,

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 7>make it feel like kindergarten, even when you're learning algebra.

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 4>And I read I read the other day that in

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 4>heart at Harvard they didn't teach calculus when Harvard was

0:36:56.600 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 4>founded because Isaac Newton hadn't actually invented it yet, which

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 4>is just crazy when you say, really, yes, apparently this

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 4>is a this is a true statistic.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, that's the thing about math is it changed.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It changes. I mean there's still discover for.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 7>New ways to to find patterns and calculat I that's amazing. Yeah,

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, calculus is basically the way to do It's

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 7>like you get to do infinitely many, infinitely small things.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of how I would describe calculus is it's

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 7>a better way to calculate things, Like you can you

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 7>can estimate the area under a curve, but if you

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.240
<v Speaker 7>have the form find the exact area, which is useful

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:38.959
<v Speaker 7>for things like if you're going to paint an area,

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 7>right you need to know how much paint you need

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 7>or whatever. And it's got a nice creamy line to it.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 7>There's there's that calculus kind of a rudimentary explanation. That's

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 7>integral calculus. Derivative calculus is finding the slope of like

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:54.919
<v Speaker 7>if you have a curve, like you know the silp

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 7>of the line is you know, run over ris or

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 7>run or whatever. But a curve. How do you define

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 7>this slope of a point on a curve, Well, it's

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 7>defined as the slope of the tangent line that touches

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 7>that point. Only think about only one line will touch

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 7>the curb at that point. If you try to like

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:12.439
<v Speaker 7>touch a different point, well, now it's a different point,

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 7>different different slope.

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 7>So that's that's that's the first calculus that you learn

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 7>is derivative calculus. Then the integral one that teaches the

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 7>area under a crib. I mean, I could talk about

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 7>this more than my brain. You brought me on to

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 7>talk about I've not written a Caculus book. Maybe someday.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 7>Now you're written up through high school geometry.

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 5>So okay, Well you've got plenty of time, so you can.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>You can.

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Maybe the next one will be calculus. You can.

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You have your whole life ahead ahead of you to

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>write as many books as you want.

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 5>So going back to Winnie.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Cooper just for a second, I wanted to ask you

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>if you we have another thing in common that's not

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a negative thing, but I do wonder your thoughts

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>on it that our characters were written by men to

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>be kind of these perfect, dreamlike characters meant for the

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 1>main characters. Looking back, now, what are your thoughts and

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings on Winnie Cooper.

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 7>Well, she I don't actually see her as perfect because

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 7>she had a lot going on, like her parents separated

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 7>in one of the episodes.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 4>And oh really, yeah, I'm just look.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. And she and Winnie Cooper had that one episode

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 7>called the Accident where she starts dating somebody who's not

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 7>necessarily from the right side of the tracks, and he's

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 7>a little reckless and they get in a car accident,

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 7>and uh, and and and that was kind of played

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 7>as when he is trying to deal with her parents,

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, separating and doesn't really know how. But I

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 7>think Winnie Cooper was mostly I think whether she was

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 7>perfect or not seen from afar definitely put on a

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 7>pedestal and not and not understood. But I think Kevin

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 7>not understanding when he is. Part of what people can

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 7>relate to is it's difficult to understand the opposite sex

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 7>at any age, especially when you're just first entering into

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 7>relationships with the opposite sex. It's like, what, who is this?

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 7>Why do they not respond the way I do to things?

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 7>And hack when I said this, it was misinterpreted and

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't understand. And it's like remember that book men

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 7>are from Mars, women are from Venus, that that whole

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 7>thing of weight. We're speaking different languages. It seems like

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 7>we're speaking the same language, but we're not. That whole

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 7>revelation starts, I guess in middle school, and that I

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 7>think is part of why when he was put on

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 7>a pedestal. And and yeah, like to your point, Daniel,

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 7>it's it's the guy's point of view in both our shows,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 7>how like, how how do I deal with this alien?

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 8>Female race, Yes exactly, but I think importantly, like you know,

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 8>the Cory tapang of storyline, pretty quickly became that they

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 8>were meant for each other.

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 2>And so in a lot of ways, that's a completely

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>different art. Because Kevin and Winnie did not get enough together,

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>which were great, I mean, that was just yeah, but

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I was that always the plan.

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 7>I mean, in my fans, fans still upset on me,

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 7>I'm like.

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, like it's your fault, yeah, like how come.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 7>You didn't you and Kevin didn't have together? Like oh

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 7>my gosh, oh my god, we're still talking about this. Well,

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 7>you know, it was it was the wonder years was

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 7>I think also because it wasn't like a three camera

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 7>show and it wasn't as like everything didn't all work

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 7>out on the end. It often didn't work out. I

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 7>think it was trying to show something that more people

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 7>can realistically, I guess relate to, because most of our

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.800
<v Speaker 7>lives don't out the way we wanted them too or

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 7>thought they were going to. And so in that same way,

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 7>Kevin and when he did not end up together, I

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 7>like to say, though, look, all we know is what happened.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 7>That what the narrator said happened, which is that when

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 7>he went off to the Savonne and got her degree

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 7>in art or whatever, and he had a baby with

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 7>his wife, and I was the first to you know,

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 7>they were the first to greet me off the plane

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 7>and all the rest of it. Yeah, well that's only

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 7>the beginning of this story. Personally, I am divorced and remarried,

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 7>and a lot of people are. And maybe Kevin and

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 7>Winnie ended up together after all.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You never know, Yeah, you never know that.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was the thing that I mean that struck

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 4>me about that show and still does so. Television is

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 4>hugely important to me, and this was one of the

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 4>first shows I can remember my mom and I every

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 4>week hopping on the couch getting under a blanket because

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 4>the show was one thing to her and something else

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 4>to me.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 3>It seemed to.

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Straddle that line of it had something for everybody. And

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm curious when you were doing it, was there a

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 4>sense on the set that it was a kid show?

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 4>It was an adult show? Was I mean, was there

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 4>a vibe that you guys were feeling or was it

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 4>just the show?

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean, from my point of view, it was a

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 7>kid's show. I didn't get how important. The nostalgia aspect

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 7>was for adults until later. And also people would recognize

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 7>me on the street and say, oh my gosh, I

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 7>grew up in that era and they're nailing it. That's

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 7>exactly the music I should listen to. And this the

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 7>car we had. My dad had the same car, and

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 7>we had that same TV or like so. So I

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 7>did have a sense that they were doing a good

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 7>job of being accurate, but I didn't realize how much

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 7>it meant to people who grew up in that time.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>So we are currently very deep into a Boy Meets

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>World rewatch for mostly the first time. Will and I

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.240
<v Speaker 1>watched the show when it was on in the nineties.

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Writer never watched it, so that he's seeing it for

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the first the first time. When is the last time

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you watched the Wonder years?

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 7>You know? I tried to show it to Drake. I

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.879
<v Speaker 7>showed him one episode, but it was probably like four

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 7>or five years ago.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, not interested.

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 7>That was me, Like, I'm like, no, that's that's me.

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 7>It's like really, I'm like, yeah, how come everybody else

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 7>thinks I look the same? You don't even recognize me?

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 7>Oh wait? Because we all got older and so we

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 7>all like understand the translation of what we look like now.

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, he wasn't that interested. And then I did

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 7>during COVID. I remember, like when the first lockdown happened,

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 7>I did this thing where I had this old de

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 7>I was like desperate to help entertain people I don't know,

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 7>and I had this old DVD player, like a little

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 7>portable DVD players. So I showed the Wonders on that

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 7>and like, I think it was just the first episode

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 7>or the first few episodes, and I would like talk

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 7>about it behind the like pause it and talk about it.

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure that was not like I wasn't licensed to,

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 7>but it was a tiny little screen. It was sort

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.720
<v Speaker 7>of not necessarily in focus. And so yeah, but I haven't.

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 7>I haven't. Really. It's funny because some there there are

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 7>shows that that that mean a lot to us growing up,

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 7>and like that I would probably watch if I had time,

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 7>But I don't ever feel I don't ever crave going

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 7>back and watching that show. I don't know, but I

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 7>like Dan Laurie and I are good friends, and he

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 7>played the dad on the Wonder Years and I so

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 7>we keep in touch. I try to keep touch with

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 7>everyone's it's tough though, but I went out in June

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 7>to see him in a play, an off Broadway play

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 7>that he wrote, and it was in And so we

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.800
<v Speaker 7>try to keep in touch in terms of watching the shows.

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 7>I should. I mean, Drake was fourteen. Now maybe he

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 7>would like it now.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe he didn't.

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 7>Try.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Dan was actually on our show. Dan was on our show,

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 4>and Fred was on our show. We had had a

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:22.879
<v Speaker 4>lot of the cast of Wonder Years came on board.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 4>It was cool.

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we pretty much only existed because of Wonder Years.

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm wondering.

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>See you finished Wonder Years and they were like, get

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 2>us another Savage, let's do another show.

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 4>But that's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering how much Tipango

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 4>was actually kind of modeled on Winnie. Yeah, I mean

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 4>the similarities are so kind of glaring that you wonder

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 4>it's like, Okay, let's just this worked. This is going

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 4>to be the new Kevin and Winnie. Let's go from there.

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, who knows.

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just coming of age, like the story.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you're always going to have a crush er,

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're a character. But yeah, to keep it

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>going for the whole series is pretty I.

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 7>Was jealous of Danielle like a View and like Milano

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 7>and all those people who got to a Candice Camera Brick,

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 7>who got to like wear cool, fashionable things and putanaclips

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 7>in your hair and stuff, because I was like, I'm

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 7>stuck in these nineteen sixties wower hands. I was. I

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 7>always felt so uncool. I'm like, look at them, they

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 7>are feathered bangs, and I don't have any of that stuff.

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh I bet looking back now, it's it's pretty enjoyable

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to see that fashion. And you have a new Christmas movie,

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a Cinderella Christmas Ball, premiering on Great American Family this month,

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>So tell us about that movie.

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 7>So my new movie, my new Christmas movie, comes out

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 7>really soon. It comes out November twenty ninth. It's the

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 7>day after Thanksgiving, which for some people is the first

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 7>acceptable day to start celebrating. And it's called a Cinderella

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 7>Christmas Ball. And it's just as Christmas being magical as

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 7>you would think. I play a dance teacher from Chicago

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 7>who doesn't who never knew her birth father. My birth

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 7>mother like literally didn't put his name on the birth certificate.

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 7>And then she died when I was young. So at

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 7>the beginning of the movie, I find a picture that

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 7>has it's my mom that I've never seen, my birth mother.

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 7>She's wearing a wedding dress, she's holding a hand of

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 7>a man that we can't see in the picture, and

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 7>on the back it says our place, haven Shire and

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 7>the date is nine months before I was born. So

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, oh my god. So it's like solving a mystery,

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 7>and I go to having Shire to try to find

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 7>my family, and I end up as a dance teacher.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 7>I end up getting a job teaching the Prince of

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 7>having Shire a very important waltz for an upcoming event

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 7>that is called the Cinderella Christmas Ball, because at that

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 7>event he is to dance with different royal ladies and

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 7>then choose a bride, which is what happened in Cinderella.

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 7>So that's how I got the name. So he's helping

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 7>me with my emotional search for my family. I'm helping

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 7>him learn this waltz, which I used all my Dancing

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 7>with Stars knowledge to do, and so I was on

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 7>that show ten years ago. And then it's a beautiful,

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 7>happy ending that's cathartic and amazing and people are gonna

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 7>love it. And again the day after Thanksgiving November twenty

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 7>ninth on Great American Family Channel. And if people find

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 7>me on Instagram, You'll be getting ulters of updates and

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 7>I'll be posting on x during the premiere live posting

0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 7>so people can join in. Just on the commercial break,

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 7>so someone should have watch the movie. I'll be like

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:04.720
<v Speaker 7>giving bts and stuff.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Is he is he British? Or is this a fake

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 3>land that he's the prince.

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 7>Of well Hanshire is a made up city, made up

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 7>country in Europe. But he actually there is a country

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 7>where everyone speaks English with British accents of chess and

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 7>he is so Oliver Rice, my co star, he's actually British. Usually,

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 7>you know, we shoot all these movies in Canada mostly,

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 7>and so we usually get some great Canadian actor who

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 7>does a pretty darn good British accent. This is an

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 7>actual he grew up in London, he moved to Canada

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 7>ten years ago. Who was super legit. If you're in

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 7>the New York area at all, you have to check

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 7>out the Great American Family Christmas Festival. It's like an

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 7>immersive Christmas experience, like dropping into a Christmas movie. There's

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 7>ice skating, there's Santa, there's gourmet food and beverage, and

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 7>then we have special screamings with Q and AS and

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 7>you can meet the stars of Great American Family. And

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 7>that goes from November twenty second through December twenty ninth,

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 7>different celebrities going each weekend.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 5>So so fun.

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any other holiday movies or holiday themed

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>episodes from TV that you love to watch around the holidays?

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Not that I was in, but just that just generally, Yeah,

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>like anything that I mean, Elf is so great.

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, yes, my mom's favorite.

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 7>And a Christmas Story. Yeah, Actually, I remember when we

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.439
<v Speaker 7>were shooting, right before we shot the pilot, they had

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 7>Fred watch a Christmas Story because the whole narration thing.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 7>They wanted him to understand kind of what it was,

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.439
<v Speaker 7>and so that I remember that that was the first

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 7>time I ever heard of a Christmas Story.

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 4>It's such a good movie.

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 5>Every year, those are the.

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 7>Two movies that we always make sure to watch it

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.280
<v Speaker 7>at least once usually a few times during the holiday season.

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 7>And then Wet and then we have Great American Family

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 7>on all the time because I've got so many friends

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 7>doing movies on the channel, so watched.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you too about Swinging to Romance.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>What can you tell us about that movie?

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 7>Swinging a Romance is a movie that was came out

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 7>last year on Great American Family but now just dropped

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 7>on pure Flix. So this is another dance movie. So

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 7>like my new the upcoming Christmas movie, it's into really

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 7>Christmas ball. I do a wall A couple waltz is

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 7>in it, and that was choreographed by globs of Schenko,

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 7>who's a pro and Dancing with the Stars, but he

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 7>was actually in a Swing into Romance last year. He

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 7>also choreographed the swing dances or the jives in Swinging

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 7>to Romance. But then he played my ex fiancee and

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 7>my ex dance partner in that movie, and that was

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 7>a blast because I got to dance on screen with him,

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 7>which is amazing because he's like so good. It was

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 7>like doing Dancing with the Stars, but without the eliminations

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 7>and without a live pressure so you could do it

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 7>a few times. And then also without the broken rib

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 7>because I did break a rib on Dancing with the Stars. Anyway,

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 7>Swinging to Romance per fun movie, and yes, it's like

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 7>reliving and Dancing with the Stars. It's on pure Flix

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 7>and you can stream it anytime.

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 5>Wait, how did you break your rib?

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:47.440
<v Speaker 7>Repeated trauma Week three actions when the trauma started because

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 7>of there was this move so Val Traumakowsky was my partner,

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 7>and there's this move where it was a contemporary dance.

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 7>He throws me in the air and I do a

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 7>three sixty spin and it catches me.

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh god.

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 7>Eventually we had to change it into a one eighties

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 7>spin because six I was never quite getting around all

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 7>the way and so I kept landing in his on

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 7>his hand on this one rib, and and I was

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 7>so determined. I was like, yeah, it hurts, but you

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 7>know what, I'm a dancer. Dancers, you know, you work

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 7>through the pain. You just dance through the pain. Just

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 7>be tough. At the end of week three contemporary dance,

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 7>my rib hurts so much. I went to the doctors, like,

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 7>get way, did I break it? Like's, let's no, but

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 7>it's weekend sore. Wear a brace. Wear a brace for

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 7>the next couple weeks. So I did so from then on,

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:30.800
<v Speaker 7>you see, you don't see my stomach and any of

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 7>those dances because I need to wear those braids. Well,

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 7>for week six. After week six, for week seven, that

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 7>was like, okay, do you think you know it's feeling

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 7>better yet feeling better, Let's go ahead and do a lift.

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 7>And there was this one lift thing we tried to

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 7>rehearsal and it snapped. Oh god to hear it snap,

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 7>and then flooded. So when I danced for two more weeks,

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 7>I danced week seven in week eight, and so I

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 7>danced eight out of ten weeks two which I danced

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 7>on a broken rib. And that's because because that's what

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 7>you do do. Yeah, that show really taught me resilience.

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 7>Have any of you guys done it?

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 7>No, it's it's a ride of passage.

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, we have not done it, but I will

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 5>say you have.

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>If there's anything we learned about you in this episode,

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it's really that you can commit to a bit, just

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 1>more than just about anybody you were like math, Yeah,

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>watch this, oh acting, child acting? Yeah, watch this, Oh dancing,

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Watch this. It's pretty incredible.

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 7>It's called stubborn.

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 5>Stubborn and.

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 7>We'll see it's a guy you know, good in bed,

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 7>but it's it's.

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Who I am.

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 7>And I try to try to live life to the

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 7>fullest and help people along the way. You know, my

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 7>math books. I mean, that's something I'm super proud of

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, I want other kids to learn resilience.

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<v Speaker 7>I want kids to learn that, Like when math gets challenging,

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<v Speaker 7>that's you don't give up because that that's when you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>this is when I'm getting stronger. Yeah, this is when

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<v Speaker 7>things are challenging, that's when you're getting stronger. It's like

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<v Speaker 7>lifting a heavyweight at the gym. If you lifted easy weights,

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<v Speaker 7>like who cares. Yeah, but when you're struggling, when you're

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<v Speaker 7>struggling with anything, that's when you're getting stronger. Like embrace

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<v Speaker 7>those moments, go oh wait, this is actually good. I

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<v Speaker 7>still her the first time that math professor told me

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<v Speaker 7>because I was like, I'm just I'm confused. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 7>to figure out. He goes, that's good, Am I what?

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<v Speaker 7>Because you're in it, yeah, working it out, and you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to remember what you learn right now much more

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<v Speaker 7>than you remember something that it was easy that came

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<v Speaker 7>to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so resilience.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Danica, thank you so much for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for spending your time with us. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>such a joy to see you. Hopefully we will see

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<v Speaker 1>you at another nineties con or somewhere eventually, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was always it's always so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 7>You see you, Danielle. Thanks guys, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 5>Hy Wow. I mean she's a smarty, she's as smart.

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<v Speaker 3>She's definitely a smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's definitely a super smarty. We my kids love

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<v Speaker 1>bathtime math time. It's very sweet. Every time she writes

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<v Speaker 1>a new little kid math book, she sends it to

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<v Speaker 1>me and she autographs it. And so I've read it

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<v Speaker 1>a few times to Adler and he's like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>this here? I'm like, that's the author's autograph. That's her

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<v Speaker 1>sign that she cares whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Two plus three fast job, that was so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, you don't even need Danica's math book.

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<v Speaker 3>I sure don't.

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