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Speaker 1: I left my house twice in one weekend, both times

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But it was so worth it because I got to

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Speaker 1: see Sabrina Carpenter's Short and Sweet tour, which I the

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Speaker 1: it just didn't work out that way with everything we

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Speaker 3: You've just got like your schedules.

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Speaker 1: Wide open, wide open, calendar, wide open.

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Speaker 5: But the tour was so great.

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Speaker 1: Sue Will's wife Susan went with me last night. I

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Speaker 1: brought some other friends with me, and I brought some

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Speaker 1: other girlfriends on Friday night, so we saw her at

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Speaker 1: Crypto Arena, which formerly known as Staple Center. Unbelieved that

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Speaker 1: this is the way. It's not the Staple Center anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's not the Staple Center anymore. It's Crypto dot Com Arena.

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Speaker 4: It rolls as to tom different corporations.

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Speaker 1: I also, I do want you guys to know that

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Speaker 1: I win the Crypto bought Staples. I was like, give

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Speaker 5: Well, guess who flipped a switch.

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Speaker 2: I remember going to a Springsteen concert there when it

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Speaker 2: It was one of the first to be named after

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Speaker 3: So nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: That'll be great, But I do the show is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: Next year she'll be doing a European leg of the tour.

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Speaker 1: If you have not seen the show. It's really truly

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Speaker 1: Forum cake.

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Speaker 5: So if you've ever been in the Forum.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when artists perform there, they make a cake,

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Speaker 6: But literally a superstar. Also, I also a gazillion records.

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Speaker 6: I was nominated for Acre face is on a freaking cake. Thanks,

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Speaker 5: Like, I gotta find the cake.

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Speaker 4: I'll go to the next one. I want to go

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Speaker 3: She was really nice. There's so few of us triple

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Speaker 5: Welcome to pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel.

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Speaker 3: I'm right strong, and I'm Wilfordell.

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Speaker 1: For one hundred and fourteen episodes of television over five years.

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Speaker 1: Our guest this week was one of the most iconic

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Speaker 5: Of the late eighties and early nineties.

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Speaker 1: It would have been hard to find someone who didn't

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Speaker 1: and those who knew her in real life figured out

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Speaker 1: she was just as kind, impressive, and beautiful as she

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Speaker 1: research into this. But she's also probably our only guest

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Speaker 1: to have a mathematical theorem with her name on it.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry, Blake, Senate, there's still time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she is an actual genius who outside of Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: co authored a paper titled Percolation and Gibbs states multiplicity

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Speaker 1: for Pharaoh magnetic Ashkin Teller's models on Z to the second.

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Speaker 1: While I genuinely have no idea what any of those

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Speaker 3: Her conclusions are ridiculous in that paper.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, is that your favorite of person?

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Speaker 4: No, I just don't know how she You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: This was just she was z in the second. Is

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Speaker 3: Seriously, come on, come on, rookie mistake.

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Speaker 1: She appeared in the movie Sidekicks, and was seen on

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Speaker 1: and has since become a Queen of Christmas, starring in

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Speaker 1: some of your favorite festive flicks, including a new one

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Speaker 1: just around the corner.

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Speaker 5: Please welcome to Pod meets World.

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Speaker 1: We're getting by with a little help from our friend

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Speaker 1: Danica McKellar.

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Speaker 5: So good to see you.

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Speaker 7: Good to see you too.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm sure a lot of our listeners

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Speaker 1: are brains are exploding with a nostalgia seeing the four

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. That cool. So good to see you, guys,

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Speaker 7: So good to you.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk to you about the fact

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Speaker 1: The Twilight Zone, but your second role ever was Winnie

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Speaker 7: Sort of. I did two episodes of the Twilight Zone,

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Speaker 7: and I'd done some commercials, some mashup commercials, but that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all say, yeah, what was the audition process?

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Speaker 7: Like, I mean, it was kind of a last minute

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Speaker 3: Oh come on, really, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I I auditioned, bought my sister auditioned for it as well.

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Speaker 7: It was for a nineteen eighty five Volkswagen Golf car

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Speaker 5: Yes, including all your family.

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Speaker 7: Oh yes, my family and not all my family well

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Speaker 5: But we've talked a lot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. For the days that I was working kids, I

442
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Speaker 7: would literally work maybe two days out of the weekend.

443
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Speaker 7: The other three days I was going to my school.

444
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Speaker 7: I was bouncing back and forth and back forth. The

445
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Speaker 7: thing that was unsettling about that, honestly, is that like

446
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 7: they would say, okay, well there's a history of test

447
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 7: next Friday, and I would have no idea if I

448
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 7: was going to be there for it or not. All right,

449
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 7: I wasn't giving my schedules till sometimes the night before.

450
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't know if I was working.

451
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Speaker 5: So he teach you to be like, you know, yeah,

452
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Speaker 5: that's flexible.

453
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 7: And uh and ready for anything. A lot of interesting

454
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Speaker 7: skill there and this young person.

455
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Speaker 2: But then you guys would have on super early morning

456
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Speaker 2: calls sometimes right like you would be yeah, sure.

457
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Speaker 7: We would always do like too bad. It wasn't well,

458
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 7: it wasn't as a as a kid, they didn't bring

459
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Speaker 7: in too early. They would bring the parents in early summer.

460
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 7: Dan and Ali played the parents. I'd get there and

461
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Speaker 7: they were already they'd already shot sometimes by so I

462
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 7: don't weber being called earlier than eight as a kid,

463
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Speaker 7: whereas you know, Allie Mills would have been there at

464
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Speaker 7: six thirty and here in magup right, and now that's me,

465
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 7: now I get it was not It was not too early.

466
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Speaker 7: It was pretty reasonable. And we only worked nine and

467
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Speaker 7: a half hours, and that was including lunch and including

468
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Speaker 7: the three hours of school, so we were and they

469
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Speaker 7: did a really good job of protecting us, so we

470
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Speaker 7: were not overworked and and but but that meant that

471
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Speaker 7: we often didn't shoot with each other. So another thing

472
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Speaker 7: that's very it's different from what you guys experienced, is

473
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Speaker 7: that because it was single, Cameron because he had to

474
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Speaker 7: get three hours, had to get three hours to school

475
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Speaker 7: work done. And that was the most challenging brand because

476
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Speaker 7: he was in so like basically all those scenes, and

477
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Speaker 7: and so I was often on my close ups, he

478
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 7: was never there. And then photo and the foul worked

479
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 7: a lot too and also needed uh schoolwork. So sometimes

480
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Speaker 7: it was a single, clean single I'd be literally working

481
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Speaker 7: to a piece of tape. And I remember there's one scene,

482
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Speaker 7: there's one episode of It's called a Mad Mad Madline

483
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Speaker 7: World where it was a field trip we were we

484
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Speaker 7: shot at a Griffith Observatory and I remember my close

485
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Speaker 7: up in this scene with like five people, and there's

486
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Speaker 7: four pieces of tape and the trew smile and pieces

487
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Speaker 7: on I knew which tape was each person in the scene.

488
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Speaker 7: And Kirk Trutner, who read the voice of the narration

489
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Speaker 7: while we were shooting it, he would he did all

490
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Speaker 7: the different voices and he would change his voice slightly.

491
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Speaker 7: He was super talented voice actor that we were lucky

492
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Speaker 7: to have on set with us because he was the

493
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Speaker 7: voice of the narration. He would later be recorded by

494
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Speaker 7: Daniel Stern. He was there to guide us through it

495
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Speaker 7: and you Also, the other interesting skills that that I

496
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Speaker 7: you guys probably didn't have to learn is because of narration,

497
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Speaker 7: is that when you're not the one having the thoughts,

498
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Speaker 7: you just have to kind of suspend yourself in that moment. Yeah, right,

499
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 7: suspended where you are as Bread was getting to act

500
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Speaker 7: the thought that we're hearing.

501
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Speaker 5: Correct, you couldn't even act it.

502
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Speaker 7: Yeah, why I wasn't having those thoughts. I was just right.

503
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Speaker 7: It's like an avatar that's kind of waiting for the

504
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Speaker 7: next instruction. Hey, in the moment, there's almost like, you know,

505
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Speaker 7: like you're shooting something and they're like, wait, come in,

506
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Speaker 7: we fix a hair like wall, but you're still in

507
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Speaker 7: the middle of the scene and they walk off there

508
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Speaker 7: and continue. It's like being that suspending moment. So that's

509
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 7: a lot in those kinds of situations where there's some

510
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Speaker 7: shuan set that fixed something in the background. We have

511
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Speaker 7: to keep shooting, and I just have to stay where

512
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Speaker 7: I am.

513
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Speaker 2: Well, something we all had to learn holding for laughs

514
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: because that's c you have to sit there. And what

515
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Speaker 2: you realize, you know, especially as a kid or an

516
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Speaker 2: actor who's never done that, you just want to keep

517
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Speaker 2: playing the scene. But what you realize is that everybody

518
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: sort of like turns off and just holds for to

519
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: laugh because if you keep playing the scene, the laugh

520
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: will actually stop. They'll think something else is going to happen.

521
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Speaker 7: Right, And at the beginning of whatever you were saying.

522
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Speaker 2: You know, and I've seen it now, like you work

523
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: with you know, new actors that haven't done it, and

524
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: you have to teach them like no, no, no, no, it's

525
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: like it's like reality stops and it's actually more realistic

526
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Speaker 2: for you to just hold your facial expression for thirty

527
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: seconds or whatever. It's so weird.

528
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Speaker 4: You come to realize though, that that's that's the audience's line.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, that's that's the laugh. Is their line.

530
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Speaker 4: So you're just essentially reacting to another to their yeah.

531
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Speaker 3: Giving their line out and all that stuff.

532
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Speaker 4: But I'm curious, So you the show is obviously a

533
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Speaker 4: smash hit, but this is all pre internet and pre

534
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Speaker 4: social media. When did you realize kind of what you

535
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Speaker 4: were doing in the culturalegeist.

536
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Speaker 7: It's funny because in six seasons and the last season,

537
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 7: somebody on set asked me what it was like to

538
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Speaker 7: be America's sweetheart. And I had no idea what they

539
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 7: were talking about. It was clueless, Like what what do

540
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Speaker 7: you what do you mean? I mean, I was so

541
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 7: busy working, but mostly going to school, you know, a studying.

542
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Speaker 7: I mean I I you know, I went to this

543
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 7: difficult I mean, Harvard was no walk to the park

544
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Speaker 7: and and you know it prepared me for being a

545
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Speaker 7: math major at U c l A afterwards and all

546
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Speaker 7: all the rest of it. So it was it was

547
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Speaker 7: I was so busy doing that and I was not.

548
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Speaker 7: I was a very I was a good girl. I

549
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 7: was I didn't go to parties and stuff. I was

550
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Speaker 7: just And even if I did go to a party,

551
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Speaker 7: like nobody was offering me drugs, Like nobody because they

552
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 7: just could tell I really couldn't.

553
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Speaker 4: This is this is a waste of drugs.

554
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Speaker 7: So it's sorority party is at U c l A.

555
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 7: I was like, and I would go to a fraternity

556
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 7: party like maybe once a year, and like, oh, this

557
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 7: is why I don't usually go. I would take a

558
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 7: beer cant like because I was so people would just

559
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 7: pressure you, Oh why aren't you drinking? So I take

560
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 7: your can, dump it out filled up with water, in

561
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Speaker 7: the bathroom with one of these frat houses, and then

562
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Speaker 7: drink that all night. And then people would not write.

563
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Speaker 5: People wouldn't bother you.

564
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 7: Then they beat they'd leave me alone. Yeah. So I

565
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 7: was just always a good two shoes, which I have

566
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 7: no problem with. I e. I wasn't mean or judgmental people.

567
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 7: I just like to you.

568
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Speaker 4: Didn't even like cigarette smoking. I remember that distinctly.

569
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 7: Yes, Oh my gosh. Okay, so there was So we

570
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 7: have a mutual friend Jason Marson, who I think was

571
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 7: trying to set us up. But you smoked, and I.

572
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Speaker 4: Told you, yeah, You're like I'm not going to date

573
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 4: you because you smoke cigarettes.

574
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Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, I will continue dating

575
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: camera lalth.

576
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Speaker 5: Not you don't get any of my camel.

577
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: Bucks, then exactly I could have showered you in camel cash,

578
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: but whatever. Yeah, it's fine. I could have made it

579
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: rain with the camel cash.

580
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: But no, it is like no yet, No, I remember that.

581
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: It was like, it's not it's not going to happen.

582
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: You smoke, and I was like, all right.

583
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Speaker 1: You'll be happy to know Will is ten years free

584
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: of cigarettes, so everyone can enjoye ten years.

585
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 5: It's been really difficult. Breathe better.

586
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 7: You probably exercise more, Yeah, but at what cost? So

587
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 7: I tried a cigarette once when I was eighteen, and

588
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 7: it was like so good and nutty and satisfying. I

589
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 7: was like, okay, I'm never touching that again.

590
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: It was exactly the opposite reaction.

591
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 7: I supposed not like it the first time you try it,

592
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 7: and its like if I like it the first time

593
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 7: I try it, then that's bad news.

594
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: That's bad news for you.

595
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: I can see why people do this.

596
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel this, and I have been I better

597
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 7: not yep.

598
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: So when Wonder Years ended, did you find it hard

599
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Speaker 1: to be seen as anything other than Winnie Cooper? Did

600
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: you have a hard time breaking out of the like

601
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: child actor stigma?

602
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 7: Well that's a good question. I mean, I I still

603
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 7: am recognized Cooper like that's so. Did I have a

604
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 7: hard time breaking out of it?

605
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: I never did, never did, but it's okay.

606
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 7: It was. It was confusing when I first went So

607
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 7: I the Wonder Years ended and I started UCLA within

608
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: a few months of each other, and so I was like, Okay,

609
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 7: new chapter of my life. I'm moving on with my life,

610
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 7: and everyone else will do that with me too.

611
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 5: They're all going to move on to.

612
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 7: Everywhere I went on campus whatever, people like, oh my gosh, hey, Whinny,

613
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 7: where's Fred? And you know the riche Kevin and and

614
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 7: uh and that girl friend that show. Oh my gosh, dude,

615
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 7: look it's that girl from that show. It's like over

616
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 7: and you guys are I'm sure that guy from that

617
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 7: show that girlfriend right, yeah, oh yeah, you're like grew up,

618
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 7: you know, and you're you're that girl played Winny and

619
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 7: and so I had a big turning point at UCLA

620
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 7: where I kind of like I just needed to know

621
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 7: who else I was. And at the time I was

622
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 7: considering being a film major. And then I had taken

623
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Speaker 7: a math class. I always loved a good challenge, and

624
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 7: so I took this mathlas multi variable calculus because I'd

625
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 7: taken single variable calculus in a Harbor West life, and

626
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 7: so that was the math that I passed into. I'm like,

627
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 7: oh my gosh, college math, this is gonna be so hard.

628
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 7: But just I just I just have to see what

629
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 7: it is like. Let's just see what that would be like, right,

630
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 7: And I did really really well, and uh the first

631
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 7: midterm I studied so hard too, I really I put

632
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 7: everything into it and it paid off. First midterm, Remember,

633
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 7: I thought, oh my gosh, I failed. Right, I got

634
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 7: a twenty two out of forty. But apparently it was

635
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 7: some sort of weader test because the professor like grafted

636
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 7: the scores on the chalkboard. There was one twenty two.

637
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 7: This is a class of one hundred and sixty three people.

638
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 7: There was one twenty two if there were two fifteen's

639
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 7: and the rest was nine and below. I'm like, I'm

640
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 7: looking at my test, like that's that's me, And there's

641
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 7: all these people who looked much more like math people

642
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 7: than me. I don't know how to say it, but

643
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 7: they just I thought, well, those people, I'm sure I

644
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 7: can tell that they're gonna.

645
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna aice this.

646
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. They all look like they belong here, and

647
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 7: I do not feel like I belong in this class.

648
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 7: And that was a good lesson for me, like, oh, okay,

649
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 7: I guess maybe I do belong to this class. The

650
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 7: next day, I had someone tap me on the shoulder

651
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 7: in that class and say excuse me under that girl.

652
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 7: And I figured they were gonna say from the morning,

653
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 7: who got the twenty two? I was like, it is me.

654
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 7: And that teacher told me, he's like, you have a gift.

655
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 7: You need to pursue this. You know, you guys weren't

656
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 7: supposed to do this well and what's going on? And

657
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 7: so it was like it was just music to my ears.

658
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 7: I felt so from from being associated with something. It

659
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 7: was over. It was the one years was done and

660
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 7: so and it makes you, as you, guys, I'm sure

661
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 7: have experienced to some extent at some point. Who else

662
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 7: would I be if I didn't have this character? What

663
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 7: would my value be if I didn't have this show

664
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 7: and this character that everybody loves, like who also want

665
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: to be? And so I got to find out by

666
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 7: I just I decided to quit acting because I was

667
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 7: still trying to do like I done a TV movie

668
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 7: up in Vancouver and the Moment of Truth movies on NBC.

669
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 7: You guys did any of those anyway? I did one

670
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 7: and then I came back and it was this was

671
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 7: before I took that math class, and I was like, okay,

672
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 7: I'm ready to to do a makeup mid term and

673
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 7: they're like, no, you can't do that. We give you

674
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 7: an incomplete I'm like what I was like, Oh wait,

675
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 7: maybe you can't really straddle these two worlds. So anyway,

676
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 7: as I really fell in love with math, I was like, Okay,

677
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 7: I'm not going to be a film major. I can

678
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 7: do that later if I want to, and you know,

679
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 7: learned behind the scenes, behind the camera stuff, and I'm

680
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 7: just going to do math. I'm just going to see

681
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 7: what that is. And it felt so good. I wore

682
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 7: no makeup to school. I would wear like jeans and

683
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: a T shirt and my hair and pointing tail, and

684
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 7: I wore my backpack with two straps and I was over.

685
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 7: And I would walk to camp like across campus, and

686
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 7: I just felt so a lot of the professors and

687
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 7: then the math apartment didn't even have TVs. They had no

688
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 7: idea who I was. And it was perfect. I went

689
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 7: from that girl on that show to like that girl

690
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 7: who helped me pass calculus because I was I was

691
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 7: a tutor in the math apart I met at that

692
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 7: point and it just felt so right. I felt really good,

693
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 7: and it gave me this whole other base. But I

694
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 7: remember it was interesting when I came back to acting

695
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 7: and I would go into auditions and I would have

696
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 7: these casting directories. I'm not going to name any names.

697
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 7: I won't who were like, oh, so, how have you been?

698
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 7: You know. That was the time of I'm not a

699
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 7: writer and like the shoplifting and all that stuff and

700
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 7: the child stress did not have a good name, right,

701
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 7: you've been like everything? Okay, I'm like, yeah, no, no,

702
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 7: we haven't seen you in a while. I'm like, yeah,

703
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: yeh know. I was at college like, oh, that's that's great.

704
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 5: For you, for you who are.

705
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: Like a theater major. It was like and I loved

706
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 7: this moment, just this little moment in time so delicious,

707
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 7: Like actually, mathematics and I it's like, what you know,

708
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 7: for some reason, I just loved that stilly. I don't know.

709
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: Well, I'm curious. I have to ask why maths.

710
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 7: Because it gave me this other sense of identity. It

711
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 7: gave me because it's hard, it's challenging, and I was

712
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 7: doing well at it. So I felt valuable for something

713
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 7: that had nothing to do with winning Cooper I got.

714
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 7: I felt the value of like I felt like kick

715
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 7: ass for something that's just in my brain something that I.

716
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean, were you were you attracted to math your

717
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: whole life, because again I mean, you could.

718
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: Have done that with it. You could have been an archaeologists.

719
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: You could have been And so why maths?

720
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 7: Well, I love puzzles and any times I love solving things,

721
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 7: I always have to this day I do all The

722
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 7: New York Times calls you the connections and Wortle and

723
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 7: me too, selling me yeah all that stuff. Connections is

724
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 7: actually right now my favorite. I pretty much addicted to it.

725
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 7: And if I do it after a minute, like turn

726
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 7: it the next day, I don't have it. I've already

727
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 7: done it. Anyway, I love puzzles. I love, I just love.

728
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 7: I love the beauty of math. Math is not a science.

729
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 7: It's a language. So it's much more fiwer than the sciences.

730
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 7: Sciences are like open term interpretation. People keep discovering things

731
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 7: that disprove what they used to know, and like that's

732
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 7: that's kind of defined science. And so with math, it's

733
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 7: really an exploration of the human mind in a lot

734
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 7: of ways. It's the patterns and the games that we

735
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 7: get to play. It's like check simple rules, but the

736
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 7: strategies are endless and so with math, it's these simple rules.

737
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 7: There's like seven axioms or something, and then everything is

738
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 7: built from there. And I homeschool my son, Draco, who's fourteen,

739
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 7: and we're now doing algebra two. It's so much fun.

740
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 7: By the way, I've written math books now, but I

741
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 7: read that night to my son.

742
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 5: Bathtime math time is a regular in our house.

743
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: Really.

744
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: Yes, I love that.

745
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 7: I love that. Yes I have. I have eleven math books.

746
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 7: They're all at mckellermath dot com. You can go there

747
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 7: and you can there's this big slider button. I'm very

748
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 7: proud of where depending on the age of your child,

749
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 7: I have the book that I recommend her books and yeah,

750
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 7: I've got I got let's see, do I have that.

751
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 5: One bathtime math time? My son loves.

752
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: Yes, there it is, that's where has to start.

753
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still there.

754
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I teach I have like this one is

755
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 7: for multiplication and division, so third and fourth grade, the

756
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 7: times machine, times tables, and yes there is time travel

757
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 7: because you know, I mean, I'm an entertainer, so I

758
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 7: like to make math entertaining. It's it's about you know,

759
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 7: stories and just you know, like I come up and

760
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 7: have like different rhymes and things to help kids memorize

761
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 7: their multiplication facts, which is super important.

762
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: Four did you get rid of that?

763
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 8: One?

764
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: Was?

765
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 3: Four? Yes?

766
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 7: Trust you?

767
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: Yes it was full.

768
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: Never trusted. I've never trusted math.

769
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Would you say you have like an expertise in math? Like,

770
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: what would your expertise be if you had to say, one.

771
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 7: Teaching math to kids, making math fun, and teaching math

772
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 7: through stories and characters and making it not scary anymore,

773
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 7: it would be what I would say. My my superpower is.

774
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: See my mom would have really benefited from you had

775
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: you been able to help my mom when she was

776
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: a kid. My mom somehow ended up in the wrong

777
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: math class in high school. She like, I think, walked

778
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: into the wrong classroom and no one ever or noticed

779
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: she wasn't supposed to be there, and the teacher it

780
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: was like algebra, and and she literally thought it was

781
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: a joke. When they started adding letters into this, she

782
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's funny. Is what's that X doing

783
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: in there? And then she was like, oh, other people

784
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: are answering this. And she just thought she was She

785
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: hadn't taken the class that led before it. She just

786
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: thought she was incapable of learning, and she just stayed

787
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: the entire year and failed, and from that moment on

788
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: truly traumatized by math. She was like, I'm afraid and

789
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I can't do it well.

790
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 7: Like I said, it's a language, and if it's not

791
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 7: translated properly, then it's like reading Chinese, and it's scary.

792
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 7: It's scary when you're doing something that's so foreign. So

793
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 7: that's why I try to make it like not foreign

794
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 7: and make it just bring it into the world of kids,

795
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 7: make it feel like kindergarten, even when you're learning algebra.

796
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: And I read I read the other day that in

797
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: heart at Harvard they didn't teach calculus when Harvard was

798
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: founded because Isaac Newton hadn't actually invented it yet, which

799
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: is just crazy when you say, really, yes, apparently this

800
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: is a this is a true statistic.

801
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

802
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: So it's like, that's the thing about math is it changed.

803
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: It changes. I mean there's still discover for.

804
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 7: New ways to to find patterns and calculat I that's amazing. Yeah,

805
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 7: I mean, calculus is basically the way to do It's

806
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 7: like you get to do infinitely many, infinitely small things.

807
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 7: It's kind of how I would describe calculus is it's

808
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 7: a better way to calculate things, Like you can you

809
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 7: can estimate the area under a curve, but if you

810
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 7: have the form find the exact area, which is useful

811
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 7: for things like if you're going to paint an area,

812
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 7: right you need to know how much paint you need

813
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 7: or whatever. And it's got a nice creamy line to it.

814
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 7: There's there's that calculus kind of a rudimentary explanation. That's

815
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 7: integral calculus. Derivative calculus is finding the slope of like

816
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 7: if you have a curve, like you know the silp

817
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 7: of the line is you know, run over ris or

818
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 7: run or whatever. But a curve. How do you define

819
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 7: this slope of a point on a curve, Well, it's

820
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 7: defined as the slope of the tangent line that touches

821
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 7: that point. Only think about only one line will touch

822
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 7: the curb at that point. If you try to like

823
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 7: touch a different point, well, now it's a different point,

824
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 7: different different slope.

825
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: Right.

826
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 7: So that's that's that's the first calculus that you learn

827
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 7: is derivative calculus. Then the integral one that teaches the

828
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 7: area under a crib. I mean, I could talk about

829
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: this more than my brain. You brought me on to

830
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 7: talk about I've not written a Caculus book. Maybe someday.

831
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

832
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 7: Now you're written up through high school geometry.

833
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 5: So okay, Well you've got plenty of time, so you can.

834
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: You can.

835
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: Maybe the next one will be calculus. You can.

836
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: You have your whole life ahead ahead of you to

837
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: write as many books as you want.

838
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: So going back to Winnie.

839
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: Cooper just for a second, I wanted to ask you

840
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: if you we have another thing in common that's not

841
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: necessarily a negative thing, but I do wonder your thoughts

842
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: on it that our characters were written by men to

843
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: be kind of these perfect, dreamlike characters meant for the

844
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: main characters. Looking back, now, what are your thoughts and

845
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: feelings on Winnie Cooper.

846
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 7: Well, she I don't actually see her as perfect because

847
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 7: she had a lot going on, like her parents separated

848
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 7: in one of the episodes.

849
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: And oh really, yeah, I'm just look.

850
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 7: Yeah. And she and Winnie Cooper had that one episode

851
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 7: called the Accident where she starts dating somebody who's not

852
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 7: necessarily from the right side of the tracks, and he's

853
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 7: a little reckless and they get in a car accident,

854
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 7: and uh, and and and that was kind of played

855
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 7: as when he is trying to deal with her parents,

856
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 7: you know, separating and doesn't really know how. But I

857
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 7: think Winnie Cooper was mostly I think whether she was

858
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 7: perfect or not seen from afar definitely put on a

859
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 7: pedestal and not and not understood. But I think Kevin

860
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 7: not understanding when he is. Part of what people can

861
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 7: relate to is it's difficult to understand the opposite sex

862
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 7: at any age, especially when you're just first entering into

863
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 7: relationships with the opposite sex. It's like, what, who is this?

864
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 7: Why do they not respond the way I do to things?

865
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 7: And hack when I said this, it was misinterpreted and

866
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 7: I don't understand. And it's like remember that book men

867
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 7: are from Mars, women are from Venus, that that whole

868
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 7: thing of weight. We're speaking different languages. It seems like

869
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: we're speaking the same language, but we're not. That whole

870
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 7: revelation starts, I guess in middle school, and that I

871
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 7: think is part of why when he was put on

872
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 7: a pedestal. And and yeah, like to your point, Daniel,

873
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 7: it's it's the guy's point of view in both our shows,

874
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 7: how like, how how do I deal with this alien?

875
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 8: Female race, Yes exactly, but I think importantly, like you know,

876
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 8: the Cory tapang of storyline, pretty quickly became that they

877
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 8: were meant for each other.

878
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: And so in a lot of ways, that's a completely

879
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: different art. Because Kevin and Winnie did not get enough together,

880
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: which were great, I mean, that was just yeah, but

881
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: I was that always the plan.

882
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 7: I mean, in my fans, fans still upset on me,

883
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 7: I'm like.

884
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure, like it's your fault, yeah, like how come.

885
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 7: You didn't you and Kevin didn't have together? Like oh

886
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 7: my gosh, oh my god, we're still talking about this. Well,

887
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 7: you know, it was it was the wonder years was

888
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 7: I think also because it wasn't like a three camera

889
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 7: show and it wasn't as like everything didn't all work

890
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 7: out on the end. It often didn't work out. I

891
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 7: think it was trying to show something that more people

892
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 7: can realistically, I guess relate to, because most of our

893
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 7: lives don't out the way we wanted them too or

894
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 7: thought they were going to. And so in that same way,

895
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 7: Kevin and when he did not end up together, I

896
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 7: like to say, though, look, all we know is what happened.

897
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 7: That what the narrator said happened, which is that when

898
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 7: he went off to the Savonne and got her degree

899
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 7: in art or whatever, and he had a baby with

900
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 7: his wife, and I was the first to you know,

901
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 7: they were the first to greet me off the plane

902
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 7: and all the rest of it. Yeah, well that's only

903
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 7: the beginning of this story. Personally, I am divorced and remarried,

904
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 7: and a lot of people are. And maybe Kevin and

905
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 7: Winnie ended up together after all.

906
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: You never know, Yeah, you never know that.

907
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the thing that I mean that struck

908
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: me about that show and still does so. Television is

909
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: hugely important to me, and this was one of the

910
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: first shows I can remember my mom and I every

911
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 4: week hopping on the couch getting under a blanket because

912
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 4: the show was one thing to her and something else

913
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: to me.

914
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 3: It seemed to.

915
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 4: Straddle that line of it had something for everybody. And

916
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: I'm curious when you were doing it, was there a

917
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: sense on the set that it was a kid show?

918
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: It was an adult show? Was I mean, was there

919
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: a vibe that you guys were feeling or was it

920
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: just the show?

921
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 7: I mean, from my point of view, it was a

922
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 7: kid's show. I didn't get how important. The nostalgia aspect

923
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 7: was for adults until later. And also people would recognize

924
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 7: me on the street and say, oh my gosh, I

925
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: grew up in that era and they're nailing it. That's

926
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 7: exactly the music I should listen to. And this the

927
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 7: car we had. My dad had the same car, and

928
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 7: we had that same TV or like so. So I

929
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 7: did have a sense that they were doing a good

930
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 7: job of being accurate, but I didn't realize how much

931
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 7: it meant to people who grew up in that time.

932
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: So we are currently very deep into a Boy Meets

933
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: World rewatch for mostly the first time. Will and I

934
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: watched the show when it was on in the nineties.

935
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Writer never watched it, so that he's seeing it for

936
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: the first the first time. When is the last time

937
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: you watched the Wonder years?

938
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 7: You know? I tried to show it to Drake. I

939
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 7: showed him one episode, but it was probably like four

940
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 7: or five years ago.

941
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, not interested.

942
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 7: That was me, Like, I'm like, no, that's that's me.

943
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 7: It's like really, I'm like, yeah, how come everybody else

944
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 7: thinks I look the same? You don't even recognize me?

945
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 7: Oh wait? Because we all got older and so we

946
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 7: all like understand the translation of what we look like now.

947
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 7: But yeah, he wasn't that interested. And then I did

948
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 7: during COVID. I remember, like when the first lockdown happened,

949
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 7: I did this thing where I had this old de

950
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 7: I was like desperate to help entertain people I don't know,

951
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 7: and I had this old DVD player, like a little

952
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 7: portable DVD players. So I showed the Wonders on that

953
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 7: and like, I think it was just the first episode

954
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 7: or the first few episodes, and I would like talk

955
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 7: about it behind the like pause it and talk about it.

956
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 7: I'm sure that was not like I wasn't licensed to,

957
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 7: but it was a tiny little screen. It was sort

958
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 7: of not necessarily in focus. And so yeah, but I haven't.

959
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 7: I haven't. Really. It's funny because some there there are

960
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 7: shows that that that mean a lot to us growing up,

961
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 7: and like that I would probably watch if I had time,

962
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 7: But I don't ever feel I don't ever crave going

963
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 7: back and watching that show. I don't know, but I

964
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 7: like Dan Laurie and I are good friends, and he

965
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 7: played the dad on the Wonder Years and I so

966
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 7: we keep in touch. I try to keep touch with

967
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 7: everyone's it's tough though, but I went out in June

968
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 7: to see him in a play, an off Broadway play

969
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 7: that he wrote, and it was in And so we

970
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 7: try to keep in touch in terms of watching the shows.

971
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 7: I should. I mean, Drake was fourteen. Now maybe he

972
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 7: would like it now.

973
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe he didn't.

974
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 7: Try.

975
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: Dan was actually on our show. Dan was on our show,

976
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: and Fred was on our show. We had had a

977
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: lot of the cast of Wonder Years came on board.

978
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: It was cool.

979
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we pretty much only existed because of Wonder Years.

980
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm wondering.

981
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: See you finished Wonder Years and they were like, get

982
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 2: us another Savage, let's do another show.

983
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering how much Tipango

984
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 4: was actually kind of modeled on Winnie. Yeah, I mean

985
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: the similarities are so kind of glaring that you wonder

986
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, let's just this worked. This is going

987
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 4: to be the new Kevin and Winnie. Let's go from there.

988
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, who knows.

989
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just coming of age, like the story.

990
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like you're always going to have a crush er,

991
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, you're a character. But yeah, to keep it

992
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: going for the whole series is pretty I.

993
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 7: Was jealous of Danielle like a View and like Milano

994
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 7: and all those people who got to a Candice Camera Brick,

995
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 7: who got to like wear cool, fashionable things and putanaclips

996
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 7: in your hair and stuff, because I was like, I'm

997
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 7: stuck in these nineteen sixties wower hands. I was. I

998
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 7: always felt so uncool. I'm like, look at them, they

999
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 7: are feathered bangs, and I don't have any of that stuff.

1000
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh I bet looking back now, it's it's pretty enjoyable

1001
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: to see that fashion. And you have a new Christmas movie,

1002
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: a Cinderella Christmas Ball, premiering on Great American Family this month,

1003
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: So tell us about that movie.

1004
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 7: So my new movie, my new Christmas movie, comes out

1005
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 7: really soon. It comes out November twenty ninth. It's the

1006
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 7: day after Thanksgiving, which for some people is the first

1007
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 7: acceptable day to start celebrating. And it's called a Cinderella

1008
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 7: Christmas Ball. And it's just as Christmas being magical as

1009
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 7: you would think. I play a dance teacher from Chicago

1010
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 7: who doesn't who never knew her birth father. My birth

1011
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 7: mother like literally didn't put his name on the birth certificate.

1012
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 7: And then she died when I was young. So at

1013
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 7: the beginning of the movie, I find a picture that

1014
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 7: has it's my mom that I've never seen, my birth mother.

1015
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 7: She's wearing a wedding dress, she's holding a hand of

1016
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 7: a man that we can't see in the picture, and

1017
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 7: on the back it says our place, haven Shire and

1018
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 7: the date is nine months before I was born. So

1019
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god. So it's like solving a mystery,

1020
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 7: and I go to having Shire to try to find

1021
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 7: my family, and I end up as a dance teacher.

1022
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 7: I end up getting a job teaching the Prince of

1023
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 7: having Shire a very important waltz for an upcoming event

1024
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 7: that is called the Cinderella Christmas Ball, because at that

1025
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 7: event he is to dance with different royal ladies and

1026
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 7: then choose a bride, which is what happened in Cinderella.

1027
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 7: So that's how I got the name. So he's helping

1028
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 7: me with my emotional search for my family. I'm helping

1029
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 7: him learn this waltz, which I used all my Dancing

1030
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 7: with Stars knowledge to do, and so I was on

1031
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 7: that show ten years ago. And then it's a beautiful,

1032
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 7: happy ending that's cathartic and amazing and people are gonna

1033
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 7: love it. And again the day after Thanksgiving November twenty

1034
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 7: ninth on Great American Family Channel. And if people find

1035
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 7: me on Instagram, You'll be getting ulters of updates and

1036
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 7: I'll be posting on x during the premiere live posting

1037
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 7: so people can join in. Just on the commercial break,

1038
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 7: so someone should have watch the movie. I'll be like

1039
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 7: giving bts and stuff.

1040
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: Is he is he British? Or is this a fake

1041
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 3: land that he's the prince.

1042
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 7: Of well Hanshire is a made up city, made up

1043
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 7: country in Europe. But he actually there is a country

1044
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 7: where everyone speaks English with British accents of chess and

1045
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 7: he is so Oliver Rice, my co star, he's actually British. Usually,

1046
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 7: you know, we shoot all these movies in Canada mostly,

1047
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 7: and so we usually get some great Canadian actor who

1048
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 7: does a pretty darn good British accent. This is an

1049
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 7: actual he grew up in London, he moved to Canada

1050
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 7: ten years ago. Who was super legit. If you're in

1051
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 7: the New York area at all, you have to check

1052
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 7: out the Great American Family Christmas Festival. It's like an

1053
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 7: immersive Christmas experience, like dropping into a Christmas movie. There's

1054
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 7: ice skating, there's Santa, there's gourmet food and beverage, and

1055
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 7: then we have special screamings with Q and AS and

1056
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 7: you can meet the stars of Great American Family. And

1057
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 7: that goes from November twenty second through December twenty ninth,

1058
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 7: different celebrities going each weekend.

1059
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 5: So so fun.

1060
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: Do you have any other holiday movies or holiday themed

1061
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: episodes from TV that you love to watch around the holidays?

1062
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: Not that I was in, but just that just generally, Yeah,

1063
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: like anything that I mean, Elf is so great.

1064
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, my mom's favorite.

1065
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 7: And a Christmas Story. Yeah, Actually, I remember when we

1066
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 7: were shooting, right before we shot the pilot, they had

1067
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 7: Fred watch a Christmas Story because the whole narration thing.

1068
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 7: They wanted him to understand kind of what it was,

1069
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 7: and so that I remember that that was the first

1070
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 7: time I ever heard of a Christmas Story.

1071
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: It's such a good movie.

1072
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 5: Every year, those are the.

1073
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 7: Two movies that we always make sure to watch it

1074
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 7: at least once usually a few times during the holiday season.

1075
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 7: And then Wet and then we have Great American Family

1076
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 7: on all the time because I've got so many friends

1077
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 7: doing movies on the channel, so watched.

1078
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you too about Swinging to Romance.

1079
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that movie?

1080
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 7: Swinging a Romance is a movie that was came out

1081
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: last year on Great American Family but now just dropped

1082
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 7: on pure Flix. So this is another dance movie. So

1083
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 7: like my new the upcoming Christmas movie, it's into really

1084
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 7: Christmas ball. I do a wall A couple waltz is

1085
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 7: in it, and that was choreographed by globs of Schenko,

1086
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Speaker 7: who's a pro and Dancing with the Stars, but he

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Speaker 7: was actually in a Swing into Romance last year. He

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Speaker 7: also choreographed the swing dances or the jives in Swinging

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Speaker 7: to Romance. But then he played my ex fiancee and

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Speaker 7: my ex dance partner in that movie, and that was

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Speaker 7: a blast because I got to dance on screen with him,

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Speaker 7: which is amazing because he's like so good. It was

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Speaker 7: like doing Dancing with the Stars, but without the eliminations

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Speaker 7: and without a live pressure so you could do it

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Speaker 7: a few times. And then also without the broken rib

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Speaker 7: because I did break a rib on Dancing with the Stars. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: Swinging to Romance per fun movie, and yes, it's like

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Speaker 7: reliving and Dancing with the Stars. It's on pure Flix

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Speaker 7: and you can stream it anytime.

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Speaker 5: Wait, how did you break your rib?

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Speaker 7: Repeated trauma Week three actions when the trauma started because

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Speaker 7: of there was this move so Val Traumakowsky was my partner,

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Speaker 7: and there's this move where it was a contemporary dance.

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Speaker 7: He throws me in the air and I do a

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Speaker 7: three sixty spin and it catches me.

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Speaker 5: Oh god.

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Speaker 7: Eventually we had to change it into a one eighties

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Speaker 7: spin because six I was never quite getting around all

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00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 7: the way and so I kept landing in his on

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Speaker 7: his hand on this one rib, and and I was

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Speaker 7: so determined. I was like, yeah, it hurts, but you

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Speaker 7: know what, I'm a dancer. Dancers, you know, you work

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Speaker 7: through the pain. You just dance through the pain. Just

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Speaker 7: be tough. At the end of week three contemporary dance,

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Speaker 7: my rib hurts so much. I went to the doctors, like,

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Speaker 7: get way, did I break it? Like's, let's no, but

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Speaker 7: it's weekend sore. Wear a brace. Wear a brace for

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Speaker 7: the next couple weeks. So I did so from then on,

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Speaker 7: you see, you don't see my stomach and any of

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Speaker 7: those dances because I need to wear those braids. Well,

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Speaker 7: for week six. After week six, for week seven, that

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00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 7: was like, okay, do you think you know it's feeling

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Speaker 7: better yet feeling better, Let's go ahead and do a lift.

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Speaker 7: And there was this one lift thing we tried to

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Speaker 7: rehearsal and it snapped. Oh god to hear it snap,

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Speaker 7: and then flooded. So when I danced for two more weeks,

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Speaker 7: I danced week seven in week eight, and so I

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Speaker 7: danced eight out of ten weeks two which I danced

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Speaker 7: on a broken rib. And that's because because that's what

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Speaker 7: you do do. Yeah, that show really taught me resilience.

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Speaker 7: Have any of you guys done it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 7: No, it's it's a ride of passage.

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00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, we have not done it, but I will

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00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 5: say you have.

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Speaker 1: If there's anything we learned about you in this episode,

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: it's really that you can commit to a bit, just

1138
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: more than just about anybody you were like math, Yeah,

1139
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: watch this, oh acting, child acting? Yeah, watch this, Oh dancing,

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Speaker 1: Watch this. It's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 7: It's called stubborn.

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Speaker 5: Stubborn and.

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Speaker 7: We'll see it's a guy you know, good in bed,

1144
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 7: but it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Who I am.

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Speaker 7: And I try to try to live life to the

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Speaker 7: fullest and help people along the way. You know, my

1148
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 7: math books. I mean, that's something I'm super proud of

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00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 7: because you know, I want other kids to learn resilience.

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00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 7: I want kids to learn that, Like when math gets challenging,

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00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 7: that's you don't give up because that that's when you go, oh,

1152
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 7: this is when I'm getting stronger. Yeah, this is when

1153
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 7: things are challenging, that's when you're getting stronger. It's like

1154
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 7: lifting a heavyweight at the gym. If you lifted easy weights,

1155
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 7: like who cares. Yeah, but when you're struggling, when you're

1156
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 7: struggling with anything, that's when you're getting stronger. Like embrace

1157
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 7: those moments, go oh wait, this is actually good. I

1158
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 7: still her the first time that math professor told me

1159
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 7: because I was like, I'm just I'm confused. I'm trying

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00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 7: to figure out. He goes, that's good, Am I what?

1161
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 7: Because you're in it, yeah, working it out, and you're

1162
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 7: going to remember what you learn right now much more

1163
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 7: than you remember something that it was easy that came

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Speaker 7: to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, so resilience.

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Speaker 1: Well, Danica, thank you so much for being here with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending your time with us. It's always

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00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: such a joy to see you. Hopefully we will see

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00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: you at another nineties con or somewhere eventually, but it

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: was always it's always so good to see you.

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Speaker 7: You see you, Danielle. Thanks guys, Bye bye.

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Speaker 5: Hy Wow. I mean she's a smarty, she's as smart.

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Speaker 3: She's definitely a smart.

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00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's definitely a super smarty. We my kids love

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00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: bathtime math time. It's very sweet. Every time she writes

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Speaker 1: a new little kid math book, she sends it to

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: me and she autographs it. And so I've read it

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00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: a few times to Adler and he's like, what is

1180
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: this here? I'm like, that's the author's autograph. That's her

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00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: sign that she cares whatever.

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Speaker 5: Two plus three fast job, that was so fast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: Wow, you don't even need Danica's math book.

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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 3: I sure don't.

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