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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind somehow stuff works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey wasn't a stuff with about your mind?

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Speaker 1: My name is Robert lamb in um Julie Douglas and

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Speaker 1: on the podcast table today, we have the full Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: arrangement of food. We have. We have the turkey, we

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Speaker 1: have the toe freaky and the tofurkey. We have both

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Speaker 1: ones inside the other. Sorry I didn't clue you in

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Speaker 1: about that the to furky young can yes, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you if you cut through the turkey to get to

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Speaker 1: the tough fur key? Youn Can you know how I

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Speaker 1: feel about to furkey? Do you like it? You don't

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Speaker 1: like it? I know, the taste, or the idea that

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Speaker 1: it's it's fake meat and needs to take on the

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Speaker 1: form of meat to be edible, all of the above.

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Speaker 1: I think that is just an abomination on the tables

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Speaker 1: of I'm sorry for anybody he likes it and brings

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Speaker 1: it to Thanksgiving to it. I think it's a nice alternative,

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Speaker 1: but I just thinks she's not something I did. I

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Speaker 1: have to say, you know, I was looking at a

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Speaker 1: study a couple of weeks ago two thousand and ten,

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Speaker 1: study from mcgel University's Department of psychology, and they they

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Speaker 1: entered into their research thinking that the idea of you

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Speaker 1: look at meat, you see a picture of meat, you

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Speaker 1: see some meat at a table, it's gonna make you aggressive.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna like tap into that hind brain and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna get all ravenous and defensive and start

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Speaker 1: fighting off your your fellow family members or or your

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Speaker 1: friends at a restaurant to get a sweet piece of

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Speaker 1: that meat. But they found the opposite. They found that

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Speaker 1: just seeing meat provoked a sense of non aggression. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the theory here is that it could in some way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form relate to our ancestral primate family feastings.

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Speaker 1: So the idea is, you know, okay, you're out there

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Speaker 1: scoring the meat, you know, getting a big you know,

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Speaker 1: putting a spear into the side of an animal and

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Speaker 1: blood's going everywhere, and you know, okay, maybe that's gonna

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Speaker 1: make you more aggressive. But by the time you get

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Speaker 1: it back to camp, by the time it's cooked up

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Speaker 1: ready to eat, you're probably surrounded by your friends and family.

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Speaker 1: You're probably surrounded by people you trust, and therefore the

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Speaker 1: experience of this meat is going to be one that's

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Speaker 1: more peaceful. I wonder if the same would be true

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Speaker 1: if it were a toe furky, if that would provoke aggression?

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Speaker 1: My kid, you think you think that the toe furkey

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Speaker 1: would provoke aggression rather than making a peaceful Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing about that example. What's really interesting is that

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Speaker 1: the turkey has come to symbolize this communal cooperation, this

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Speaker 1: this tradition. So it's not as they had suspected, this

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Speaker 1: idea of oh, you know, each man for himself and

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Speaker 1: trying to get that coveted source of protein. It's really

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Speaker 1: about the act. Okay, I think it's very interesting. But

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Speaker 1: it seems like like that's why the toe furkey would work,

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Speaker 1: because even if it's as an aggressor no no, no,

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Speaker 1: as a as a piece piece loving centerpiece on the table,

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Speaker 1: because you look at it, it looks like turkey. And

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Speaker 1: then maybe you're tapping into some sort of ancestral longing

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Speaker 1: for a piece of meat that has been cooked and

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Speaker 1: and and you're all experiencing it together as a family.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe it comes to symbolize this um this sham

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Speaker 1: of family dynamics. Possibly that's that's in our argument as well.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole other we could do a whole other

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Speaker 1: psychological profile of Thanksgiving. And I should say that that

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Speaker 1: steady is like a lot of these involved button smashing

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Speaker 1: subjects that we're looking at random pictures of cooked meat

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Speaker 1: and then and then they would they would punch the

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Speaker 1: what pictures raised aggression and raised the hackles, and which

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Speaker 1: one's created a more peaceful five. Okay, so they had

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Speaker 1: some neutral pictures and they have pictures of meat, and

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Speaker 1: level of aggressivity they were approaching that button mashing with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and they're looking to do more research in it

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Speaker 1: later on. But it is interesting to take with us

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Speaker 1: into this Thanksgiving a feast, which of course involves far

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Speaker 1: more than just the turkey. And that's the thing for

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Speaker 1: me anytime. I'm not a huge fan of Thanksgiving dinner,

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Speaker 1: and part of it is because there's just so much food.

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Speaker 1: on the action. Well, this is from Jessica Toothman's House

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Speaker 1: supports article tales of turkey Americans eating estimated six and

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Speaker 1: seventy five million pounds of the stuff. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: three hundred six million kilograms and that's on Thanksgiving, with

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Speaker 1: five million turkeys who get the acts except that one

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Speaker 1: that the President always pardons. I really want them to

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Speaker 1: to not pardon one some year whoever the president is

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Speaker 1: to just say, you know what, times are tough, I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing it, and then they do like the public

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Speaker 1: execution of the turkey on TV. Yes, alright, President, does

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Speaker 1: it least like Ned Stark up there, you know, honorable? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm you know, I'm in a man of my word.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do the acts myself. Oh dear, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: all right. So there is a massive amount of gluttony

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Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA, I can eat, but not all of that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: turns out that according to the Calorie Control Council, that

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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving meal, including appetizers, the average meal is about

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Speaker 1: hundred calories rich in two hundred and fat packed into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's insane. So then it becomes this idea of Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: you can eat that much, but what is all of

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Speaker 1: that doing to your teeth, to your oral hygiene. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna present this sort of this this sort of

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Speaker 1: in a couple of days with this idea of sort

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Speaker 1: lovely bacterial secrets that dwell inside, because so much of

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Speaker 1: it is just so unnecessarily sugary, Like sweet potatoes. They'll

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Speaker 1: would make a good dessert, except it's not a dessert.

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Speaker 1: You eat it during the meal and then you have

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Speaker 1: bacteria are beneficial, but especially according to this day, especially

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Speaker 1: And they are hanging out with something called Streptococcus mutants.

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