WEBVTT - COINTELPRO, Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly Fry. Today we

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<v Speaker 1>are wrapping up our two parter on Cohen's Hell Pro

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<v Speaker 1>including it's targeting of so called black nationalist slash hate

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<v Speaker 1>groups UM and a targeting of a very vaguely defined

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<v Speaker 1>movement known as the New Left. To briefly recap from

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<v Speaker 1>part one, which is highly recommended before listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>because it includes a lot of context and overview, But

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<v Speaker 1>just as a quick recap, we're gonna quote from the

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<v Speaker 1>Church Report, which followed more than a year of Senate

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<v Speaker 1>Committee hearings into all this quote, the origins of Cohen's

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<v Speaker 1>Hell pro demonstrate that the Bureau adopted extra legal methods

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<v Speaker 1>to counter perceived threats to national security and public order

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<v Speaker 1>because the ordinary legal processes were believed to be insufficient

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<v Speaker 1>to do the job. In essence, the Bureau took the

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<v Speaker 1>law into its own hands, conducting a sophisticated vigilante operation

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<v Speaker 1>against domestic enemies. Whether those targets were really enemies, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a different question. The report went on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>quote the choice of individuals and organizations to be neutralized

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<v Speaker 1>and disrupted ranged from the violent elements of the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Panther Party to Martin Luther King Jr. Who the Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>concedes was an advocate of non violence, from the Communist

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<v Speaker 1>Party to the Ku Klux Klan, from the advocates of

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<v Speaker 1>violent revolutions such as the Weatherman, to the supporters of

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful social change, including the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and

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<v Speaker 1>the Inter University Committee for Debate on Foreign Policy. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a heads up in this episode, there are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be some discussions of suicide and also police violence. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven, the FBI started co Intel pro Black

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<v Speaker 1>Nationalist hate groups. For the most part, targeting of civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights groups that had been carried out under co Intel

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<v Speaker 1>pro CPUSA, which we talked about last time, rolled up

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<v Speaker 1>under this newly established program. In the words of the

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<v Speaker 1>program supervisor, the targeted groups were selected because they were

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<v Speaker 1>believed to be violent or because of their quote radical

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<v Speaker 1>or revolutionary rhetoric and actions. On March four, FBI Director

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<v Speaker 1>j Edgar Hoover sent a memo to be routed through

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<v Speaker 1>forty one FBI field offices. This memo was called counterintelligence program,

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<v Speaker 1>black nationalist hate groups, racial intelligence. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit long, but it's so illustrative of what the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI was doing here and more generally, what Hoover's mindset

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<v Speaker 1>was across the other co intel pros. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>read a chunk of it. So it began quote goals

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<v Speaker 1>for maximum effectiveness of the counterintelligence program and to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>wasted effort. Long range goals are being set. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the coalition of militant black nationalist groups. In unity,

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<v Speaker 1>there is strength, a truism that is no less valid

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<v Speaker 1>for all its triteness. An effective coalition of black nationalist

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<v Speaker 1>groups might be the first step toward a real mau

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<v Speaker 1>Mau in America, the beginning of a true Black revolution. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for context, mau Mau is a reference to the Mau

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<v Speaker 1>Mao movement and uprising in Kenya, which advocated a violent

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<v Speaker 1>overthrow of British colonial rule. This went on to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of a messiah who could unify and electrify

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<v Speaker 1>the militant black nationalist movement. Malcolm X might have been

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<v Speaker 1>such a messiah. He is the martyr of the movement today.

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King stokely. Carmichael and Elijah Mohammed all aspire

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<v Speaker 1>to this position. Elijah Mohammed is less of a threat

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<v Speaker 1>because of his age, King could be a very real

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<v Speaker 1>contender for this position should he abandon his supposed quote

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<v Speaker 1>obedience to quote white liberal doctrines and at sees nonviolence

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<v Speaker 1>and embrace Black nationalism. Carmichael has the necessary charisma to

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<v Speaker 1>be a real threat in this way. Number three prevent

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<v Speaker 1>violence on the part of black nationalist groups. This is

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<v Speaker 1>of primary importance and is of course a goal of

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<v Speaker 1>our investigative activity. It should also be a goal of

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<v Speaker 1>the counter intelligence program to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize

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<v Speaker 1>them before they exercise their potential for violence. Number four

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<v Speaker 1>prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from gaining respectability

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<v Speaker 1>by discrediting them to three separate segments of the community.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal of discrediting black nationalists must be handled tactically

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<v Speaker 1>in three ways. You must discredit those groups and individuals

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<v Speaker 1>to first, the responsible Negro community. Second, they must be

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<v Speaker 1>discredited to the white community. Both the responsible community and

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<v Speaker 1>to liberals who have vestiges of sympathy for militant black

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<v Speaker 1>nationalist Simply because they are negroes. Third, these groups must

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<v Speaker 1>be discredited in the eyes of Negro radicals the followers

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<v Speaker 1>of the movement. This last area requires entirely different tactics

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<v Speaker 1>from the first two. Publicity about violent tendencies and radical

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<v Speaker 1>statements merely enhances black nationalists to the last group. It

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<v Speaker 1>adds respectability in a different way. Number five. A final

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<v Speaker 1>goal should be to prevent the long range growth of

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<v Speaker 1>militant black organizations, especially among youths. Specific tactics to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>these groups from converting young people must be developed. This

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<v Speaker 1>memo went on to outline the primary targets of this

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen's help pro that everything we just read was going

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<v Speaker 1>to apply to These were the organizations that Hoover described

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<v Speaker 1>as the quote most violent and radical. It included the

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<v Speaker 1>Student Non Violent Coordinating Committee, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference,

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary Action Movement, and the Nation of Islam. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly weird list. Snake has non violent right into

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<v Speaker 1>the name, like the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 1>King Jr. Helped found this represents the whole spectrum of

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<v Speaker 1>from non violent direct action to revolutionary Black nationalism, and

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI even noted that in its view, some individual

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<v Speaker 1>members of the Nation of Islam had been involved in violence,

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<v Speaker 1>but the organization itself was not violent. It was being

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<v Speaker 1>targeted because of its separatism. Basically, the FBI grouped a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different organizations with a wide range of objectives

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<v Speaker 1>and ideologies and tactics under this co intel pro that

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<v Speaker 1>was supposedly about black nationalism and hate groups. Some, as

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy just mentioned, were strictly pacifist, Some advocated gun ownership

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<v Speaker 1>or violent self defense, Some spoke in very theoretical terms

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<v Speaker 1>about the need for a revolution, and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>called for an actual armed uprising or other violence. All

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<v Speaker 1>very different ideologies, but still under this one umbrella. The

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<v Speaker 1>FBI classed them all together as violent and radical, viewing

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<v Speaker 1>virtually any organization calling for equal rights for black people

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<v Speaker 1>as potentially violent and as a consequence, as needing to

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<v Speaker 1>be disrupted. Yeah. Like, the thing that that these all

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<v Speaker 1>had in common was like black people say quality equality please,

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<v Speaker 1>or like demanding equality with very aggressive rhetoric and sometimes violence. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it all had in common. The FBI put

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<v Speaker 1>intense effort into discrediting and disrupting all these organizations and

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<v Speaker 1>other organizations that were not specifically named using all the

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<v Speaker 1>methods that we talked about in Part one. But about

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<v Speaker 1>a year after this Coin's Hell Pro was established, another

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<v Speaker 1>different organization rose to national prominence, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Panther Party, and this Coin's Hell Pro then pivoted

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<v Speaker 1>to shift almost exclusively on that. The Black Panther Party,

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<v Speaker 1>originally called the Black Panther Party for Self Defense, was

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<v Speaker 1>founded in Oakland, California, in nineteen sixty six by Huey

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<v Speaker 1>Newton and Bobby Seal. A lot of the Black Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric was radical and revolutionary, arguing that the only way

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<v Speaker 1>black people could be truly free is if they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to govern their own affairs. When they were establishing

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<v Speaker 1>the party, Newton and Seal crafted a ten point program

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<v Speaker 1>which began, we want freedom, We want power to determine

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<v Speaker 1>the destiny of our black community. This ten point program

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<v Speaker 1>went on to call for full employment, an end to

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<v Speaker 1>quote the robbery by the capitalists of our black community,

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<v Speaker 1>decent housing, education, exemption from military service for black men,

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<v Speaker 1>an end to police brutality, freedom for black men who

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<v Speaker 1>were held in prisons and jails, and it ended quote

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<v Speaker 1>we want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice, and peace.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ten Point Plan elaborated on each of these points.

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<v Speaker 1>The eemption from military service stemmed from the United States

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<v Speaker 1>involvement in Vietnam and the idea that black people should

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<v Speaker 1>not be forced to serve in the military of a

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<v Speaker 1>nation that did not protect them. The idea behind the

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<v Speaker 1>release of incarcerated black men was that they had not

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<v Speaker 1>been given a fair and impartial trial, so their convictions

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<v Speaker 1>were not valid. As part of their work, the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers started more than thirty community service programs known as

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<v Speaker 1>survival programs. These included things like free breakfast programs for

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<v Speaker 1>school children, a tuberculosis screening and treatment program, medical clinics,

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<v Speaker 1>ambulance services, legal aid, and education programs. The Black Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>also created a screening program for sickle cell disease that

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<v Speaker 1>later served as a template for the federal government's own

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<v Speaker 1>screening programs. Over time, a lot of these services were

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<v Speaker 1>expanded to include anyone who was oppressed, including poor white people.

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<v Speaker 1>The Black Panthers also showed up to support other marginalized

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<v Speaker 1>groups in their own activism. They are meant in two

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<v Speaker 1>different times in our Six Impossible episodes, from Sippins to

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<v Speaker 1>fish Ins, which focused on direct action demonstrations and similar protests.

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<v Speaker 1>In that episode, we talked about the Black Panthers support

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<v Speaker 1>of the fish In movement in the Pacific Northwest, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're providing meals to disabled activists who took over the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Health, Education and Welfare office in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>during the Section five oh four protests. But today, the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing a lot of people, especially a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>white people, think of when someone says the Black Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>is guns and violence. The Black Panthers organized armed patrols

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<v Speaker 1>of black neighborhoods to protect residents from police brutality and

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<v Speaker 1>from gang violence. At one point, they staged an armed

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<v Speaker 1>takeover of the California State Legislature that was in response

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<v Speaker 1>to gun control legislation. As other examples outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>party's organized activities, Huie Newton was involved in a shootout

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<v Speaker 1>with police in nineteen sixty seven in which an officer

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<v Speaker 1>was killed. Bobby Seal was charged but not convicted, with

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy to incite riots at the nineteen sixty eight Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>National Convention and of the murder of a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Black Panther who was suspected of being a police

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<v Speaker 1>informant in a memo back to headquarters. A California field

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<v Speaker 1>office described the Black Panthers as quote the most violence

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<v Speaker 1>prone organization of all the extremist groups now operating in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and that alleged that they were performing

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<v Speaker 1>quote not only verbal attacks but also physical attacks on police. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>j Edgar Hoover called the Black Panthers quote one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest threats to the nation's internal security. On November night,

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<v Speaker 1>several FBI field offices received a memo ordering them to

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<v Speaker 1>submit quote imaginative and hard hitting counter intelligence measures aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at crippling the BPP, of course, the Black Panther Party.

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<v Speaker 1>This directive was expanded to additional field offices in January

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty nine. Kellen's held pro black nationalist hate

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<v Speaker 1>groups soon focused almost entirely on the Black Panthers, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than on that collection of groups that we outlined earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in that nine eight memo of this co intell prose,

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<v Speaker 1>two documented actions, two hundred thirty three of them were

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<v Speaker 1>against the Black Panthers, using all those various techniques that

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<v Speaker 1>we described in Part one as examples, the FBI intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>undermined the Black Panthers public service programs, for example, by

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<v Speaker 1>sending fake, inflammatory membership materials to food pantries and other

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that were donating food for the breakfast programs. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau used disinformation to try to spark violent conflicts between

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers an area street gangs, and to spark violent

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<v Speaker 1>conflicts between the Panthers and police to reinforce the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the Black Panthers were just inherently violent. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine, the FBI became aware of a Black Panther

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<v Speaker 1>coloring book. The origins of this book are a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit marky, but I can find a Cambone, who was

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<v Speaker 1>then known as Mark Teamer, has taken credit for its creation,

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<v Speaker 1>and in interview he describes it as a history book.

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<v Speaker 1>It depicts slave owners, greedy store owners, and police all

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<v Speaker 1>as obese pigs with exaggerated lower tusks. While Cambone has

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<v Speaker 1>stressed that these pigs can be any color, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why it is a coloring book, they are generally interpreted

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<v Speaker 1>as representations of white people, and this book is full

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<v Speaker 1>of images of black people, adults and children, men and

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<v Speaker 1>women stabbing and shooting the pigs. Black Panther leadership felt

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<v Speaker 1>that the coloring book was inappropriate and ordered Cambone to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy it, but someone made copies, and after the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>obtained one, it made more copies and distributed them as

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<v Speaker 1>though the Black Panther Party had officially created this book

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<v Speaker 1>with the intent of distributing it to children. The FBI

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<v Speaker 1>has harassment of the Black Panthers also went beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>organization's membership and its programs. Jean Seeberg was an actress

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<v Speaker 1>who donated to the Black Panthers and support of their

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast programs. During her pregnancy, the FBI sent false tips

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<v Speaker 1>to news organizations alleging that the father of her baby

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<v Speaker 1>was a Black Panther. This, of course, was a huge scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeberg tried to take her own life. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>she went into labor prematurely and her baby died. According

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<v Speaker 1>to family members, she tried to take her own life

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<v Speaker 1>every year around the time of the baby's death, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she died in nineteen seventy nine. Her death was

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<v Speaker 1>ruled a suicide, although some of her families had suspicions

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<v Speaker 1>that there was foul play involved, and, perhaps most notoriously,

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<v Speaker 1>on December fourth, nineteen sixty nine, the FBI orchestrated a

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<v Speaker 1>raid that was carried out by Chicago police, who fired

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<v Speaker 1>between eighty two and ninety nine gunshots into an apartment

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<v Speaker 1>where several members of the Black Panther Party were sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>Among other involvement, and FBI informant had provided police with

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<v Speaker 1>a floor plan of the apartment. Chicago Black Panther leaders

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Hampton and Mark Clark were killed and four other

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<v Speaker 1>people in the apartment were seriously injured. Police claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>this was a violent gunfight, with the Black Panthers being

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<v Speaker 1>the first to open fire, but an investigation revealed that

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<v Speaker 1>only one shot had been fired from inside the apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely by Mark Clark after he had already been

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<v Speaker 1>fatally shot by police. According to Hampton's fiance, Debra Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>who was in bed asleep with him when the shooting started,

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<v Speaker 1>an officer who came into the apartment after the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>stopped asked if Hampton was still alive. Another officer fired

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<v Speaker 1>two shots and said he's good and dead now. The

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<v Speaker 1>Black Panther Party dissolved in nineteen eight two, with co

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<v Speaker 1>intel probe being one of the many factors that contributed

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<v Speaker 1>to its end. Former members say it is unrelated to

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<v Speaker 1>the New Black Panther Party, which was founded in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine and is classified as a hate group by the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Commission on Civil Rights in the Southern Poverty

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<v Speaker 1>Law Center. Let's take a break. The last formal coincal

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<v Speaker 1>pro that was described in the Senate investigation reports we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about in a little bit was coincal

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<v Speaker 1>pro New Left, and that started in and of all

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<v Speaker 1>the formally named coincal pros, this was the most loosely focused.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, as we've discussed, most of them were

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<v Speaker 1>loosely focused. As we mentioned in part one, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really even have a definition for what new Left meant.

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<v Speaker 1>The New Left supervisor, who was quoted in the Church

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<v Speaker 1>Committee report said quote, I cannot recall any document that

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<v Speaker 1>was written defining new Left is such. It is my

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<v Speaker 1>impression that the characterization of new Left groups, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>being defined at any specific time by document, it more

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<v Speaker 1>or less grew. It has never been strictly defined as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know. It is more or less an attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that makes it sound almost like an

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<v Speaker 1>advertiser sound bite new Left. It's an attitude. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>incident that prompted the FBI to create this co Intel.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro was a student uprising at Columbia University in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot involved in this protest, but its

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<v Speaker 1>most direct precursor was the university's decision to build a

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<v Speaker 1>new gym in Morningside Park. Even though the gym was

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<v Speaker 1>being planned for public land, its facilities would mostly be

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<v Speaker 1>for use only by the university and not by the public.

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<v Speaker 1>To add to that frustration, this was part of an

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing pattern of the university's expansion into Harlem, which was

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the neighborhoods predominantly black residents out of their homes

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<v Speaker 1>in order to build facilities that they were not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be allowed to access. So the resulting protest was complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we cannot get all into all of the nuances here,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally, the university's Student Afro American Society or s

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<v Speaker 1>a S started voicing their own and the community's objections

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<v Speaker 1>to this gym, and then the school's chapter of the

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<v Speaker 1>Students for a Democratic Society or SDS, which was predominantly white,

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<v Speaker 1>saw this as an opportunity for a larger protest that

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<v Speaker 1>would also focus on the university's involvement with the Vietnam War.

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<v Speaker 1>Members of the s a S felt like they were

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<v Speaker 1>being talked over and that the SDS was taking the

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<v Speaker 1>protests in an entirely different direction. And the end, the

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<v Speaker 1>Student Afro American Society took over Hamilton's Hall and the

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<v Speaker 1>Students for a Democratic Society took over other buildings on

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<v Speaker 1>campus and took the Dean hostage. There were more than

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand demonstrators who took part in this campus shutdown

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<v Speaker 1>that lasted for a week. At the university's request, the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Police Department began clearing the demonstrators on April nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Black demonstrators who had taken over Hamilton's Hall left peacefully,

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<v Speaker 1>but as more than one thousand police moved into the

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<v Speaker 1>other building, some of the other demonstrators verbally and physically resisted,

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<v Speaker 1>including by throwing things like shoes, bathroom tiles, and books

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<v Speaker 1>at officers. Police forcibly removed people, beating some of the

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<v Speaker 1>resisting students and in some cases bystanders with night sticks.

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<v Speaker 1>Others were trampled. In the end, one hundred thirty two students,

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<v Speaker 1>four faculty members, and twelve police officers were injured. So

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<v Speaker 1>co incal pro New Left was motivated by the FBI's

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<v Speaker 1>frustrations that the university had not brought in police earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and also by a sense that these types of protests

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<v Speaker 1>should not be permitted to happen in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>The directives for coincal pro New Left were distributed by

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<v Speaker 1>a memo in May of nineteen eight, and as described

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<v Speaker 1>in the Church Report, agents were to gather information on

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<v Speaker 1>this is all a quote. One false allegations of police

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<v Speaker 1>brutality to quote, counter the widespread charges of police brutality

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<v Speaker 1>that invariably arise following student police encounters. Two immorality depicting

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<v Speaker 1>the quote scurless and depraved nature of many of the characters, activities, habits,

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<v Speaker 1>and living conditions representative of New Left adherents. And three

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<v Speaker 1>action by college administrators to quote to show the value

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<v Speaker 1>of college administrators and school officials taking a firm stand

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<v Speaker 1>and pointing out quote whether and to what extent faculty

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<v Speaker 1>members rendered aid and encouragement. Point to sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the other counterintelligence efforts we've talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>co intel pros, but otherwise in the FBI's view, the

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<v Speaker 1>use of force against demonstrators was warranted and if demonstrators

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<v Speaker 1>were injured in the process, they deserved it. In night,

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<v Speaker 1>both the FBI and the NYPD viewed the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>force used at Columbia as appropriate and restrained. No tear

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<v Speaker 1>gas was used, no one was shot, and the injuries

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<v Speaker 1>sustained by students and faculty were minor enough that the

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<v Speaker 1>who had to go to the hospital were treated and released.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just such such a weird bar, to such a

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<v Speaker 1>weird bar of whether their use was appropriate. The use

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<v Speaker 1>of forces appropriate was like, well, okay, nobody like died,

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the tone of it. However, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>also had a similar interpretation in cases of police brutality

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<v Speaker 1>that we're far more clearly egregious. For example, after riots

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<v Speaker 1>broke out during the nine Democratic National Convention in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>a memo from FBI headquarters to the Chicago Field Office

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<v Speaker 1>read quote, once again, the liberal press and the bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>hearts and the forces on the left are taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the situation in Chicago surrounding the Democratic National Convention

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<v Speaker 1>to attack the police and organized law enforcement agencies. We

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<v Speaker 1>should be mindful of this situation and develop all possible

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to expose this activity and to refute these false allegations. Conversely,

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<v Speaker 1>the Walker Report, which was prepared for the National Commission

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<v Speaker 1>on the Call Is in Prevention of Violence, concluded that

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<v Speaker 1>there really was police wrongdoing a portion of it read quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Demonstrators attacked too, and they posed difficult problems for police

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<v Speaker 1>as they persisted in marching through the streets, blocking traffic

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<v Speaker 1>and intersections. But it was the police who forced them

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<v Speaker 1>out of the park and into the neighborhood. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the police, there was enough wild club swinging,

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<v Speaker 1>enough cries of hatred, enough gratuitous beating to make the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion inescapable that individual policemen, and lots of them, committed

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<v Speaker 1>violent acts far in excess of the requisite force for

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<v Speaker 1>crowd dispersal or arrests. To read dispassionately the hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>statements describing at firsthand the events of Sunday and Monday

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<v Speaker 1>nights is to become convinced of the presence of what

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<v Speaker 1>can only be called a police riot. So while coen

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<v Speaker 1>falpro New Left was ostensibly about targeting this very vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>defined collection of left wing demonstrators as being a threat

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<v Speaker 1>to national security, it also paired up with this sense

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<v Speaker 1>of a much needed law enforcement crackdown that was justified

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<v Speaker 1>and necessary, and the need to protect police and other

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement from false accusations of brutality. Aside from that,

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<v Speaker 1>it is difficult to talk about co intel Pro New

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<v Speaker 1>Left in a cohesive way. The counter intelligence program wound

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<v Speaker 1>up targeting virtually every anti war group in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as student demonstrators who were demonstrating for just

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<v Speaker 1>about any reason. In the words of the Church Report quote,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the Bureau witnesses deposed believes the New Left

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<v Speaker 1>co intel Pro was generally effective, in part because of

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<v Speaker 1>the imprecise targeting. Also, the tone of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI memos regarding the New Left sound almost baffled.

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<v Speaker 1>Agents really did not get these young people, most of

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<v Speaker 1>them white and affluent, a lot of them looking like

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<v Speaker 1>stereotypical hippies agitating against things like police brutality in the

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<v Speaker 1>Vietnam War. Memos include kind of perplexed sounding references to

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<v Speaker 1>things like yoga and drugs. Participants in the organization's targeted

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<v Speaker 1>under co intel Pro. New Left also tended to be

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<v Speaker 1>simultaneously idealistic and cynical, so the Bureau had a harder

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<v Speaker 1>time finding informants or infiltrating organizations. For example, the main

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<v Speaker 1>phone at the national headquarters of Students for a Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Society had a sign taped to it for more than

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<v Speaker 1>a year that said, in capital letters, this phone is tapped. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not to suggest that the other targeted organizations

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<v Speaker 1>were clueless, like they were just particularly cynical about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau by this point. The people who ultimately got the

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<v Speaker 1>ball rolling on exposing Cointel pro were members of anti

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<v Speaker 1>war and other activist movements that had been targeted during

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<v Speaker 1>these programs history, and we'll talk more about that after

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<v Speaker 1>a SPONSI break. Counterintelligence is still part of the FBI's work,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of these formally named Cohen cell prose,

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<v Speaker 1>those came to an end thanks to the work of

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<v Speaker 1>some regular people who pulled off a heist. When we

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<v Speaker 1>say regular people, they included a cab driver, a daycare

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<v Speaker 1>center director, a social worker, and a professor. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those walk into a bar jokes. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite part of these episodes for the number

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons, one of them being it's the most straightforward. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also it being just kind of a David and Goliath story,

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<v Speaker 1>so it have become clear to many of these groups

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<v Speaker 1>that the FBI was targeting them. Left wing activists viewed

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI with increasing suspicion, but nobody had evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>what they thought was happening. In nineteen seventy, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of anti war activists in the Philadelphia area decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do something about it. Anti war activists and college professor

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<v Speaker 1>or William C. David On came up with the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>John and Bonnie Raines, a married couple with small children,

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<v Speaker 1>were also involved. John had also been a freedom writer.

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<v Speaker 1>Others included Keith Forsyth, Robert Williamson, Judy Finegold, and two

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<v Speaker 1>people known by pseudonyms. One of those is Susan Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and the other is Ron Durst. A ninth participant dropped

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<v Speaker 1>out before the burglary actually took place. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>way they could break into the Philadelphia FBI office, which

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<v Speaker 1>had tight security, so they looked for other FBI field offices,

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<v Speaker 1>finding one nearby in Media, Pennsylvania. This office was housed

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<v Speaker 1>in an apartment building with a shared lobby space, which

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<v Speaker 1>was adjacent to the county courthouse. They cased this area.

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<v Speaker 1>Bonnie rains posed as a student from Swarthmore College and

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<v Speaker 1>arranged a meeting under the guise of researching career opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>for women at the Bureau. They scheduled their burglary for

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<v Speaker 1>March eighth, n d one, the night of the Fight

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<v Speaker 1>of the Century between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frasier, reasoning

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<v Speaker 1>that most people would be watching the fight. After breaking in,

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<v Speaker 1>they removed thousands of files which were being stored in

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<v Speaker 1>regular file cabinets. After sorting through what they had stolen,

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<v Speaker 1>they mailed selections to newspapers and members of Congress, anonymously

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<v Speaker 1>calling themselves the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the newspapers returned these documents to the Bureau, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post confirmed their authenticity and ran a front

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<v Speaker 1>page story on March ninete. It was titled Stolen Documents

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<v Speaker 1>described FBI surveillance activities. The article described surveillance of black

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<v Speaker 1>activist organizations and efforts to enhance existing paranoia. To quote

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<v Speaker 1>further served to get the point across that there is

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<v Speaker 1>an FBI agent behind every mailbox. More mail documents and

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<v Speaker 1>more articles followed. J Edgar Hoover officially canceled co Intel

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<v Speaker 1>pro on April seven, nineteen seventy one, citing security reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>although some co intel pro activities continued just without a

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<v Speaker 1>specific name attached, but it wasn't yet clear to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>outside the bureau what the term co intel pro meant

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<v Speaker 1>or what its scope was. J Edgar Hoover died on

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<v Speaker 1>May second, nineteen seventy two. He had been the director

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<v Speaker 1>of the FBI for forty eight years. In nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three and nineteen seventy four, NBC journalist Carl Stern filed

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<v Speaker 1>a series of requests under the Freedom of Information Act.

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<v Speaker 1>Those requests were repeatedly turned down until the documents were

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<v Speaker 1>finally released under a court order, and that is when

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<v Speaker 1>people finally started to get a sense of what co

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<v Speaker 1>intel pro meant and just how huge it was. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy four, Seymour Hirsch wrote a front page article

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<v Speaker 1>for The New York Times titled huge CIA operation reported

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<v Speaker 1>and US against anti war forces. This article reported that

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA was engaged in very Cohen's hell Pro like

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<v Speaker 1>operations against peace activists in the US, but the CIA

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>was not supposed to be operating domestically at all. These

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>news reports sparked outrage within the government and among the

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<v Speaker 1>general public. President Gerald Ford appointed the Rockefeller Commission to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate the CIA. The House established the Pike Committee to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate illegal activities by the CIA, the FBI, and the

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<v Speaker 1>n s A. The Pike Committee's report was never published.

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<v Speaker 1>On January one, nineteen seventy five, a resolution was introduced

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate to create a committee to investigate federal

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence operations and determined quote the extent, if any, to

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<v Speaker 1>which illegal, improper, or unethical activities were engaged in by

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>any agency of the federal government. Congressional hearings went on

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<v Speaker 1>through five in nineteen seventy six. Senate committee was dubbed

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<v Speaker 1>the Church Committee, was headed by Senator Frank Church, a

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Democrat from Ohio. The other committee members were selected to

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>represent a range of viewpoints and experience levels, with the

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>final group including six Democrats and five Republicans. A staff

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of a hundred and fifty people went through the thousands

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and thousands of pages of documents that were involved in

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<v Speaker 1>all this. We should take a moment to talk about

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the FBI documentation. The FBI under J. Edgar Hoover was

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>intensely bureaucratic, with a relentless focus on documenting everything. Also,

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>most of co Intel pros existence took place before the

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Freedom of Information Act was passed in nineteen sixty seven.

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>All of it took place before the Privacy Act amendments

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>were added in nineteen seventy four, which gave citizens the

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>right to see the FBI's files about themselves. In other words,

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the FBI was writing everything down, and it was not

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<v Speaker 1>doing so with the thought that anyone might ever read

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>any of this outside of the bureau. Whether the information

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>flow was going out to field offices and agents or

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>back into headquarters, nobody was disguising their meeting or intent.

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was saying the quiet part loud and doing it

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<v Speaker 1>in writing. Also, FBI documents from the co intel pro

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<v Speaker 1>era are full of racist slurs and offensive stereotypes of

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<v Speaker 1>black people. After the FBI formally started co intel pro

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>black nationalist slash hate groups, agents talked candidly about how

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't do a good enough job, the Bureau

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was going to be forced to hire black agents. This

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>idea even came with its own slogan that mimicked the

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>accent of Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, a rhyming couplet

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that ended with the N word, and also as a

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>continuation of that note. There were only five black FBI

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<v Speaker 1>agents during most of the co Intel pro era. They

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<v Speaker 1>had been hired as personal assistants or drivers for j.

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<v Speaker 1>Edgar Hoover. Then they had been given the title special

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<v Speaker 1>agent during World War Two so that they would not

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<v Speaker 1>be drafted. So back to the investigations. Most of the

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>hearings were behind closed doors, both to try to prevent

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>them from turning into a TV spectacle and also to

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<v Speaker 1>protect information about the US methods for conducting intelligence work.

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<v Speaker 1>Even so, the hearings were criticized for threatening US intelligence efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>and Senator Church was accused of using it to bolster

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<v Speaker 1>a presidential bid. While the Church Committee wanted to protect

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate US intelligence efforts, it also wanted the public to

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to learn about what was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and to that end, the committee held public hearings in

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<v Speaker 1>September and October of nine. These hearings were focused on

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>specific areas of misconduct. Has included information about a biological

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>agents program run by the CIA, a domestic surveillance program

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>from the White House, and the FBI's programs to disrupt

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the civil rights movement and the anti Vietnam War movement.

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<v Speaker 1>After one hundred twenty six full committee meetings, forty subcommittee meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>more than eight hundred witness interviews, and a review of

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<v Speaker 1>more than one hundred ten thousand documents, the Church Committee

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>issued a report that described quote a pattern of reckless

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>disregard of activities that threatened our constitutional system. And this

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was not just unique to the FBI, but the FBI

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>is our focus here. The report went on to say, quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The abusive techniques used by the FBI and Cointel pro

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen fifty six to nineteen seventy one included violations

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of both federal and state statutes prohibiting mail fraud, wire fraud,

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>incitements of violence, sending obscene material through the mail, and extortion.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>More fundamentally, the harassment of innocent citizens engaged in lawful

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<v Speaker 1>forms of political expression did serious injury to the First

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech and the right of

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<v Speaker 1>the people to assemble peaceably and to position the government

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<v Speaker 1>for redress of grievances. The report also made it clear

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<v Speaker 1>that the national security and violence prevention concerns were not

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the FBI's only motivation. Quote. The unexpressed major premise of

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the programs was that a law enforcement agency has the

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<v Speaker 1>duty to do whatever is necessary to combat perceived threats

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to the existing social and political order. Eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the approved co intel pro proposals targeted speakers, teachers, writers,

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<v Speaker 1>or publications, meetings, and peaceful demonstrations, all of which were

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>just exercising a constitutional right to free speech. Operations tried

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<v Speaker 1>to stop lawful speakers from speaking, teachers from teaching, writers

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>from writing, and demonstrators from demonstrating. The Senate Committee made

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<v Speaker 1>nineties six recommendations to quote place intelligence activities within the

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Constitutional Scheme for controlling government power. This included changes to

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 1>how the FBI was that included a ten year term

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>limit for the Director of the Bureau. It also included

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>recommendations for additional oversight within the bureau. Every counter intelligence

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>proposal had to be approved by headquarters, but outside the

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Bureau the programs were almost completely unknown. Specific elements of

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<v Speaker 1>co intel pro CPUSA and White Hate were both known

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<v Speaker 1>to various Attorneys General, presidential advisers, and Cabinet and committee members.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy authorized the bureau's

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<v Speaker 1>wire taps of Martin Luther King Jr. The Bureau also

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>notified multiple Attorneys General of various accomplishments and progress. Those

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>are their words against the Ku Klux Klan, without describing

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the breadth of what had led to that progress. Even

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>with these two programs, though the full scope wasn't known

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>outside the bureau, and it appears that the other co

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>intel pros weren't known to anyone outside the FBI at all.

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Efforts to bring in more over site of the bureau's

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:05.760
<v Speaker 1>activities included the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>The exposure of Cointelpro and the hearings that followed drastically

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>affected mainstream American perceptions of the FBI. According to Gallup polls,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the proportion of Americans with a highly favorable view of

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the FBI dropped from eighty four percent in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five to thirty seven in nineteen seventy five. At the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, no criminal convictions followed the investigations and the

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<v Speaker 1>Church report, even though that report detailed numerous instances of

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>criminal activity. As we said, the FBI is still engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in counter intelligence. In the years just after Cointel Pro

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was disbanded, the FBI did extensive counter intelligence work against

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<v Speaker 1>the American Indian Movement and the Committee in Solidarity with

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the People of El Salvador. This included a disinformation campaign

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<v Speaker 1>during the nineteen seventies three occupation of Wounded Knee, both

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<v Speaker 1>to discredit the American Indian Movement to the general public

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<v Speaker 1>and to try to create division within that occupation. Co

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<v Speaker 1>Intel pro has also made headlines at numerous points since

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the mid seventies, comparing it to policies and programs that

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>have been introduced during multiple presidential administrations. This includes comparisons

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to various aspects of the Patriot Act and the n

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>says warrantless surveillance programs in the two thousands. The general

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>focus on black liberation as somehow inherently threatening and violent

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>has also continued to be part of the FBI's rhetoric.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:40.280
<v Speaker 1>In eighteen, leaked documents revealed that the FBI had targeted

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<v Speaker 1>Black identity extremists as a major threat, with really similar

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>language about potential violence to what was used during co

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Intel pro Quote. The FBI assesses it is very likely

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>black identity extremist b i E Perceptions of police brutality

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>against African Americans spurred an increase in premeditated retaliatory lethal

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>violence against law enforcement and will very likely serve as

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>justification for such violence. This was paired with criticisms that

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the FBI and other federal agencies were ignoring credible threats

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of white nationalist violence. Yeah, this is basically a very

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>similar protests to what has been going on in the

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>last few months. As we're recording this, which is on

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>July seven, with demonstrators basically saying please stop shooting unarmed

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>black people, and the FBI creating this this uh category

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of black identity extremists led people to go that's not

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a thing though. Made that up To circle back around

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI, none of

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>them were ever prosecuted in connection with this break in

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and media Pennsylvania. It is possible that law enforcement believe

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>that the culprits went on to be involved with a

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>different group of anti Vietnam War activists who were known

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.839
<v Speaker 1>as the Camden This group broke into the Camden, New

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Jersey Draft Board office and they destroyed draft records there.

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>The Camden twenty eight were acquitted. Two of the Citizens

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Commission to Investigate the FBI actually were involved in that.

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>So there's some speculation that law enforcement was like, well,

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>they've already been tried and acquitted of this other thing.

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>We probably have no chance. Regardless, though several members of

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI came forward in

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>their story is told in the book The Burglary The

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<v Speaker 1>Discovery of Jed your Hoover's Secret FBI by Betty Medsker,

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<v Speaker 1>who also wrote that front page Washington Post story that

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned earlier on. I have not read that book,

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>but I have watched the documentary N One, which also

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>tells that story's cotel pro I know it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh D have listener mail to take us out, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>on a peppyard No man. It kind of is um.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an email from Allison, I wrote back to Alison,

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>but I thought other people might also find it helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Allison was writing about the behind the scenes where Holly

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and I talked about encountering racism out in the world

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<v Speaker 1>and whether we were prepared to counter it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Allison wrote high on today is behind the scenes, Mini Tracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you say you have a response at the

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<v Speaker 1>ready for when you hear someone say something racist. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear what you would say, or at least

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 1>in generalization, because I'm terrible with on the spot responses

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and terribly regret and think back on my lack of

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>response or retort. I'd love to hear your at the

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<v Speaker 1>ready so I might be able to have it in

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>mind and practice, so I can be ready if or

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<v Speaker 1>when that should arise in the future. I hope and

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>wish it would never happen and I'd never have to

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>hear anything as such. It's just horrible. I love what

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you both do and never miss an episode. Thanks very much, Allison.

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<v Speaker 1>So a thing that I am prepared to say, Like,

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>let's say I'm at the grocery store and the line

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<v Speaker 1>is moving really slowly, which it probably is right now,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and somebody behind me implies that it's because the person

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 1>running the cash register is incompetent because of their race.

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I might say, I hope you're not saying that to

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>me because you think I agree with you. I first

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>heard that on a podcast. I'm pretty sure it was

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<v Speaker 1>on an episode of Politically Reactive towards the end of

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>its run, but I'm not actually sure. And like that

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<v Speaker 1>is when I want to make it clear to that

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>person that that's not acceptable the thing that they just said.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.439
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also like not wanting to start a fight

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.479
<v Speaker 1>with that person that's a stranger in public. UM. If

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to a family member and the family member

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<v Speaker 1>says something that is is racist on some level, I

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<v Speaker 1>might say, I don't understand what you mean by that?

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Could you explain it to me? Um? And then a

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of times that, like, as a person is talking,

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>they will hear the words they are saying. UM. A

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>good resource I I have found is if you google

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>responding to Everyday Bigotry, the first or second result should

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>be a pamphlet that was published by the Southern Poverty

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Law Center that combines a lot of like real world,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>anonymous examples of when people have encountered bigotry in their

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>everyday lives and like practical responses to that. UM. I

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like that it's a publication that's been around for a while,

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't cover every conceivable thing, and it is based

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>on people's personal experiences. UM. But if you're like I

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know what I should say when something happens,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:43.959
<v Speaker 1>like that can be a good starting point for folks. UM.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>So you're so much more thoughtful because I can read

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>all of that, but in the moment, what I say

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>is you're a racist expletive, as probably evidenced by my

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>story about where I wanted to punch a stranger in public.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>So um yeah, uh yeah, I And and that that

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>applies to family members as well. Somebody tweeted at us

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>about that story that you had told about being in

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the cab and and basically that person, who I think

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>was was from Ireland, um basically said that that should

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>have been your response. Um So anyway, I mean, even

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>even as we talked about in that behind the scenes episode,

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<v Speaker 1>time I read that particular publication, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I am more prepared now to talk about things.

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