WEBVTT - The One Where Everything Is Temporary & Nothing Is Forever

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my loves, welcome back and give them all a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>It's early, it's early. It's early for me, it's nine

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty five am.

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<v Speaker 1>That for me to start podcasting and using my brain

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely like I'm a ten o'clocker. Yeah, because you

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<v Speaker 1>sit and go, okay, we're gonna start the podcast at

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty. Well, then I got to wake up and

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<v Speaker 1>get ocean ready and do that whole shtick. Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom took her this morning. I didn't take her. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I do this well. Good.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a lot of activity again once again. You

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<v Speaker 2>were out and about this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Palm Springs.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was much needed. Life is weird. Everyone's life

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<v Speaker 1>gets weird at some point, right, So when you just

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<v Speaker 1>like LA for my friends who don't live here, my

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't live here, it can become suffocating, you know, Jess. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's little things that happen where you're like, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get the fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>People in New York City know this feeling very well too,

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<v Speaker 2>do they? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends in New York are constantly talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is where I'm at you know when you say,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to crawl out of my own skin.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to crawl out of Los Angeles. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just what I want right now. Yeah, So Shina said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to Palm Springs. I had you cancel most

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<v Speaker 1>of Thursday all of Friday so that I could go

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<v Speaker 1>and get my mind right. It was a very funky

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, Like Thursday was a little fucking weird,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday was super fun. Saturday ocean came down with the cold.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Shena, do you prefer that we leave so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't get summer moonsick? She was like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that ship has sailed already. They've literally been kissing, sharing cups.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was it was great. It was easy. We

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in most of the time because it was raining.

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<v Speaker 2>But why do you think did something happen where you

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I have to get out of here? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you just think it just happens sometimes when you live

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<v Speaker 2>in a city like LA.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just happens sometimes when you live in

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<v Speaker 1>a place like La. But also just everything going on

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal life, which I'm like sitting here like

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<v Speaker 1>wanting a fucking just share like I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>on this mic and be like, this is what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been fucking dealing with for fourteen fucking months. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the little things that I gotta fucking deal with, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of it. And to watch someone constantly try

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<v Speaker 1>to say that everyone around is lying, but he's the

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<v Speaker 1>keeper of the truth. Everyone else is insane and lying

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take him down, It's like beyond comprehension from an.

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<v Speaker 2>Out just an outsider, even if I didn't know you,

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<v Speaker 2>an outsider looking in you have been saying for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, like, hey, there's stuff going on no one

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<v Speaker 2>knows about. I'm just trying to get through stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff going on. And slowly we have started to be

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<v Speaker 2>we as the audience have become exposed to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things, maybe just the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what if I always suggests from the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>what is done in the dark will always come to

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<v Speaker 1>the light, right and now people are somewhat somewhat seeing

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<v Speaker 1>why I am fighting for my child right now. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a day in, day out type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still believe what is done in the dark

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<v Speaker 1>will always come to the light, The truth will always

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<v Speaker 1>find the light. That's just how shit works. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing whatever I can to prevent things from happening, to protect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my offspring, my little cub. But it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say this weekend I had moments of

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<v Speaker 1>just we talked about this week last week, where I

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<v Speaker 1>have moments of like, Okay, this is a moment where

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<v Speaker 1>I may break, And I got to sit in a

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<v Speaker 1>room and like regroup right and tell myself, this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna break me, bitch, I'll be damned.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's incredible to watch, only because you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to hear and see people going, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what Lala's been hinting at and talking about

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<v Speaker 2>and and and you know me, I'm like, oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>And people are like, no, wonder she's been fighting and

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<v Speaker 2>this and that. I'm like, oh god, you don't even no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not it. This is not even we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even scratched the surface. So you are going through so

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<v Speaker 2>much more than people know. And you don't, like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not the kind of person to sit there and say that,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you guys only knew, like you're just not

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<v Speaker 2>and to watch you are going through so much and

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<v Speaker 2>I literally have said this honestly these past two years.

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<v Speaker 2>To watch you get up every day and you have

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<v Speaker 2>your moments, but then to soldier on is like extremely inspiring.

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<v Speaker 2>And we always get dms that are like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>like Laala inspires me. She's killing it, which so true.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think just one day, I think people may

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<v Speaker 2>know the full story and it's it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Full story will come out. Yeah yeah, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to be the one to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're you're you're killing it. You're an amazing mother,

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<v Speaker 2>You're an amazing just woman friend boss. So it's like amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like bravo to you, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Jess. Yeah. In brighter news, Yes, let's hear

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<v Speaker 1>you had a really fun I love watching your Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>so much. It brings me so much joy. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about you micro needled your own.

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<v Speaker 2>Face, micro needled my own face, which I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a micro needling tool, which I'll link you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all of these. You know, it's funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>got all of the stuff. Micro needling tool, led light mask.

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<v Speaker 2>When the pandemic hit in twenty twenty because I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be home time to do all of

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<v Speaker 2>like the facial stuff and everything. And I probably used

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<v Speaker 2>them all like twice and then forgot about them until

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<v Speaker 2>this past weekend. I was looking in the mirror, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm thirty one, and I've always you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at my skin and I see the wrinkles forming,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've I've said it on here before. I always

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<v Speaker 2>go back and forth with like is it time for botox?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it time? So I think it is, but haven't

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<v Speaker 2>gotten it yet. But this past weekend I did some

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<v Speaker 2>micro needling, did an led light mask. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's going to help, because I've heard and read

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<v Speaker 2>and watched that you have to be consistent, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a fun little like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It looked the red light mask, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, every time I go to a spaw

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<v Speaker 1>and have that treatment done, I fall asleep out cold.

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<v Speaker 1>The micro needling, I don't know if that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>help with wrinkle wrinkles. I know it helps with like

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<v Speaker 1>fine lines, but you know, just like the way we

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<v Speaker 1>move our faces, I don't know that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>like really get it in there.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it do oh collagen right it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically like resurfaces your your healthy skin. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I do the micro needling with the

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<v Speaker 1>PRP where they put basically your own blood, not really,

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<v Speaker 1>they separate the platelets and then they put the plasma

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<v Speaker 1>on and then they micro needle that into your face.

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<v Speaker 2>See that it is your own blood. I would pass out,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would. Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that video the blood blood what? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>That was like one of the first YouTube viral throw

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<v Speaker 2>back same around the same time as the Charlie but

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<v Speaker 2>my Finger Charlie Charlie out and it's still hurting throw

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if some people listening to this they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>As No, my demographic is, like I think mostly my

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<v Speaker 1>age and older. Okay, I definitely know what we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>But because when I was talking about broad City, when

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about pegging, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an episode on broad City, I got so many

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<v Speaker 2>dms like shout out hell, yes, broad City.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you something really funny? And I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they keep it in this season and Bravo, please don't

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<v Speaker 1>email me. I don't want to live it ain't the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let me say this. We we're filming and we're

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<v Speaker 1>in like, we're in fight mode a group of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I pegged you from the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole group likes to me, goes what And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, like, I I called your like I knew

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<v Speaker 1>your card before your cars, before they were dealt. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, pegging is putting something in your asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, are you serious pegging?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, more specifically no, but that is Kyle says it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, I pegged him for a blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah guy. And I'm like, oh, did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you talking to a man or a woman?

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<v Speaker 1>Group of chicks? Oh, group of chicks.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so funny. I hope they keep that in.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. There's my tea on vander Pump that

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<v Speaker 1>there are times that are like really, really fucking funny,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that some of them they keep in.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I loved last season. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if this is the first season they did it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like they kept those moments in. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like the week after the episode aired, they had the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was extended version of totally,

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<v Speaker 2>well that extended.

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<v Speaker 1>When they do that, it's like an like unseen unseen.

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<v Speaker 2>Footage totally they have in the episodes. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if they'll do it this season, but that seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be when they put the funny stuff back in, like

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<v Speaker 2>what you didn't see from the scene, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a silly moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But speaking of vander Pump, I'm curious because I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a lot of news and stuff. I saw a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like tea spilled this past weekend on Bravo

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<v Speaker 2>account and people questioning certain relationships you have in friendships.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything to say on that?

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<v Speaker 1>So I did because today we don't have a guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like when we have a guest, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also have so much fun, just like shooting the shit

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys, you know. So I asked my friends

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram we're recording a podcast, like what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know? And so many people asked about this

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<v Speaker 1>what you're referring to, So of course I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are people asking this? Well, now I know that

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<v Speaker 1>someone asked Katie this on her podcast and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote, the vibes are definitely off. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the vibes are definitely off.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that news to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? After the DMS I got from her the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much. Not so much, I would say a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit off. But just like I've said before, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot going on. That is the least of

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<v Speaker 1>my concern. And I hope she had a very happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>It slipped my mind that it was her birthday because

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<v Speaker 1>it was MLK Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, her birthday was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday, on Monday. Yeah, oh, I didn't know that. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I completely spaced it, you know, with MLK Day happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I had ocean she was feeling sick.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as someone who is a fan of your friendship,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that the vibes get back on. But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, We'll see, yeah, you know, m hm, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll fucking see. There was another funny question that someone

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<v Speaker 1>asked me on the gram. Did you ever sleep with Jack?

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<v Speaker 2>For real?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell the truth, Laala, No, I did not. I do

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<v Speaker 2>not have even slept with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think season four, like before Brittany had come into

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<v Speaker 1>vander Pump Rules. There was like flirting going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But nothing ever happened, like not even not even a kiss,

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<v Speaker 1>Like nothing at all, Yeah happened. Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny because you I remember that scene where

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh, she's flirting on whatever, And it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me laugh because I just feel like I've only

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<v Speaker 2>met Jackson a couple of times. You know, nice guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like you two are so different, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would be shook if I ever found out you

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<v Speaker 2>guys slept together.

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<v Speaker 1>I means, yeah, but weren't you shook when you found

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<v Speaker 1>out that, like I hooked double jeens. Yeah, Alcohol's one

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a drug, it really is. In fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a scene season four at the very beginning where

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<v Speaker 1>I went to have drinks with Jack's Sheena and Kristen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had my hand on Jackson's leg and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was like, she's doing something naughty and I wasn't. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I had my like the person I was so

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<v Speaker 1>in love with at the time pick me up from

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<v Speaker 1>that bar. I was wasted. I do not recommend this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very fun, but I don't recommend it. I

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<v Speaker 1>literally was having sex with him while he was driving

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<v Speaker 1>like on his lap. Okay, like one wrong move, we

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<v Speaker 1>were through the windshield. What's this someone that we saw

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<v Speaker 1>on the show or no, no, okay, it wasn't someone

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<v Speaker 1>you saw on the show, but it was talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>We get to my apartment at the time, the famous

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<v Speaker 1>or the infamous apartment on Olympic Okay, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I ate someone's bum bum for the first time ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was this up on the show. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, hold on, I'm I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm understanding this correctly. You had sex with this

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<v Speaker 2>guy in the car who picked you up. Yes, Then

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<v Speaker 2>when you got home.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I had been seeing since I was like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one and I was twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four, did you eat his ass? And James's no, jamesus,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Man's the boys.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy And then you told James about.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and then I was like, oh my gosh, like

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<v Speaker 1>do I think we're getting back together? This is awesome? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>What And guess what what we did get back together?

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<v Speaker 1>You did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I kept having dreams that he was cheating

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<v Speaker 1>on me, and I was like, this is called a

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<v Speaker 1>gut feeling. So I broke up with him again betrayal.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me a couple of years to stop taking

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<v Speaker 2>out my dreams on Kyle be like, are you fucking?

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<v Speaker 2>I would wake up and be like wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be like, the fuck is.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong with you? Hear me out, Yeah, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you did to me my dream because I was also crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>like the first two years I did him extremely insecure,

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<v Speaker 2>a drunk, drinking every night like.

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<v Speaker 1>Comic so don't picture you this way, Oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, messy going out. He was a DJ in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 2>so like he would DJ from nine to two and

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<v Speaker 2>I would get free drinks right at like the rooftop clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would just drunk, messy, yucky, but more better now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she feel like that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's interesting too, I feel like if it

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<v Speaker 2>weren't him, any other guy would have probably not stuck

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<v Speaker 2>around like I think any.

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<v Speaker 1>Other guy would have been like patient.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was patient. So if any men are out

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<v Speaker 2>there listening to this and you have a gut feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like this is my lady, but she's acting a fool

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<v Speaker 2>right now, maybe hang in there, have some talks with her.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be just her thing, her insecurities, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also consider her age.

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<v Speaker 2>Consider her age. I was twenty five, Yeah I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I feel like anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's in her early to mid twenties, Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>can be acting crazy once she starts stepping into like

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty seven twenty eight zone, she should really be

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of figuring it out. Still maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>up and down, but you know we're getting a grip. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>once they hit thirty, yes I should mellow out. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who the fuck am I to judge.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, yes, I know a lot of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't drink until they were like twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they get to be thirty and that's their wild days.

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<v Speaker 2>So who knows. But can we go back to you

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<v Speaker 2>eating ass really quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Always did you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 2>Number one? Because I've never done it. I never will.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a garbage area to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I am like, again, I was drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I would assume it's like smelly and gross and terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't smelly and gross and terrible. But I literally

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<v Speaker 1>like I would have let this man do anything to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was like in love.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still talk to this No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, no, No, he's like married with children, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fine as fuck. His wife's fine as fuck. Okay, taking

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<v Speaker 1>hot kids, love that, you know. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was nice. It was a good experience.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. It was a great experience. It was sad

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<v Speaker 1>because by the time we were both like, I had

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<v Speaker 1>moved out here, he was ready to commit, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what I had been wanting since I was like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one and he was younger than me, and I met

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<v Speaker 1>him when he was in college and I chose that

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<v Speaker 1>thing to be with.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was around this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, you know what, You've really taken

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<v Speaker 1>my heart on a wild fucking ride, and I just

0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I could go for security and knowing that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken care of in my emotional areas. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>He's present, and I just can't take the chance on

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<v Speaker 1>you doing to me what you've done for the past

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<v Speaker 1>however many years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you wanted what you thought was stability, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense when you get to a mature age as a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of women search for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Breg mistake, BG brigm shteak.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I would to have Ocean Kent exactly. The Angel,

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<v Speaker 1>The Angel Okay, this person is asking how to be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with being single. I've been single for four years

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<v Speaker 1>and still on struggle street. That's such a tough one

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to say, like, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable being single once you feel one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself. But I also have met many men, not

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<v Speaker 1>many women, but a lot of men who have been

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<v Speaker 1>single for a really long time who seem to be very,

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<v Speaker 1>very okay with themselves. They're one hundred percent on their own,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're like, I want a partner, like I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>The men, the men. I've met a lot of men

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<v Speaker 1>who are looking for that. Yeah, no, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, Like I said, I met I had

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you this before, Lalla, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>said it on here. I met Kyle literally two days after.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like my entire family, like, here's my plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be single forever when I'm thirty five, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get a sperm donor. I had my entire life plan,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like excited for it. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the baddest bitch. And then I met Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm still that bitch, but like it was one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things where I was like finally happy and

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<v Speaker 2>secure with myself. I mean ended up being insecure for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple more years after that. But I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that being happy with yourself and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people say this, but it comes when you're not looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think when you start like you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>move searching to find a dude, it's like they're nowhere

0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to be found. It's same with when you're in a

0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.360
<v Speaker 1>relationship and for some reason you got all these options

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and you can't even do anything about it because you're like,

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I found my person, but so why do you want me?

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 1>And then you break up with them and you're like

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<v Speaker 1>where the dude is at?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's an energy, people have said, yeah, it's like

0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:59.160
<v Speaker 2>an energy when you're happy and fulfilled with yourself, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>give or take a man or a woman, that's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of an attractive energy to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. So I wouldn't even know how to answer

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<v Speaker 1>that because I've been single now for over a year,

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and granted my situation is different, and we won't harp

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.360
<v Speaker 1>on my situation because we've been doing it for an eternity,

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.159
<v Speaker 1>it feels like. But I just think, as corny as

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it sounds, timing is everything.

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Timing is everything for everything. I feel like for everything, jobs, work, relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>so many things are timing.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think you have to like really sit down

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.919
<v Speaker 1>and create an incredible bond with the universe. Is that

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 1>so weird? You guys can all think that I'm a

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.719
<v Speaker 1>nut job, But I just find that when you have

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 1>a profound relationship with the universe, it just works in

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.959
<v Speaker 1>your favor. And it could be just a mental thing

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.520
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, oh, it is making sense, you know,

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like almost like a placebo effect for the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's it is placebo effect, like thinking, Okay,

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this, so things are gonna get better, and

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 2>then things do get better. Right, No, I one hundred

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.160
<v Speaker 2>percent agree. It's the whole manifesting, which people, by the way,

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 2>were like, I'm getting into it this year, tons of

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 2>people manifesting and doing gonna try your holy work.

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<v Speaker 1>I just fucking do it. I'm not even fucking around

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<v Speaker 1>with you right now. What are the Okay, let's just

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>put it in perspective for the one thing that okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been manifesting from the time I was a child, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always said I'm gonna grow up and be an

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment dam There was no one who could tell me otherwise.

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 1>There's a small percent chance la la great, I'm gonna

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 1>be a part of that. Yeah, I always told myself.

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, one day, I'm dreaming big. I want

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in a range Rover.

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You're in the nicest one I've seen.

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 1>You. Just keep manifesting. I feel like I'm going insane today.

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>So if anyone's sitting here being like, what's going on

0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>with her? Mentally, just no role with me today. I

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>need y'all on my train. Please.

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm eating this up. No, this is like you the manifesting.

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I read something this weekend. It was like ten life tips.

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It was a TikTok or something, but number one was

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>and take this as you will because some of us

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 2>just need work. We need to make money, but never

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>work for someone who you don't want to become. And

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I've got that down because I look

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 2>at you and I'm like, yes, that's goals, And I'm

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like that's a great tip.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know this isn't our forever, right, Jess. But

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.360
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a day where you come to work

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<v Speaker 1>and we're free, like we've broken the chains.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you say that because I feel free.

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>But I get what you're saying, Like best job I've

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>ever had, just because like it's you. I mean, I've

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.160
<v Speaker 2>said it over and over. But I love what we're doing.

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>We're making moves, we're taking meetings, we got things going

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 2>on behind the scenes, we've got schedules filled up. I

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:57.160
<v Speaker 2>love it.

0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I love it too.

0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but manifesting back to pie, I sat here and

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I found out a shit ton of things.

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to do shit. I knew why I

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was fighting and what I was in two weeks ago. Bam, Wow,

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to say one thing. And here it is.

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows now without me saying a word, without me confirming, denying,

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>just sitting back and doing what I need to do

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.719
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes. It's right in front of everyone. Oh oh,

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>let's put the pieces of the puzzle together on why

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Lalla's been fighting for over a year now. All right,

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 1>So you sit your ass down and you call whatever

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.159
<v Speaker 1>it is you want into your life, and you know

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the universe has your back, and you say anything that

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<v Speaker 1>is true, bring it to the light. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I live like straight live right now, living on

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<v Speaker 1>a prayer. Yeah, the only thing that keeps me going

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<v Speaker 1>on a day to day where I can get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bed and function, even though I might go to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep and night and be like, wow, we did a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember much because I'm so just occupied

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<v Speaker 1>by what is my life. But you wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and you're straight living on trust in something

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<v Speaker 1>greater than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what you just said about getting I wake up

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>in the morning and the only thing that gets me

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 2>out of bed. I read this this past weekend. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us grew up hearing like choices have consequences,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just sort of associate that with negativity. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought, like my parents told me that forever

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<v Speaker 2>and to me it always meant like if I make

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<v Speaker 2>a bad choice, I'm gonna pay for it somehow, which

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. But I was reading something it was

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<v Speaker 2>called like Unholy and Holy Choices this week and my

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Grandma's a doll she sent me a book, but it

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>was saying choices have consequences. Think of that as well

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>as like the not negative thing. So if you make

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 2>a good choice, there's gonna be a good consequence. So

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<v Speaker 2>just you getting out of your laying in bed and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, I'm gonna choose to get out of bed

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<v Speaker 2>this morning and you get up, there's going to be

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a positive consequence for that choice. Just a choice as

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>simple as I'm going to get out of bed, next thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to journal, there's going to be a positive

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 2>consequence that comes from that. And I like it kind

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>of changed my mindset because I'm like, oh, true, if

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>even the smallest choices are going to have consequences, and

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 2>it goes the other way too. You choose a tiny

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>choice to make a bad decision, that's gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>consequence that you're gonna have to live with. So it's

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of like it kind of has just like formed

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 2>my mindset a little, Like harder things. I'm choosing to

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>go to the gym for twenty minutes, that's gonna have

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>a positive consequence for me on my mental stability. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just like you just saying something as simple as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm choosing to get out of bed this morning is

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<v Speaker 2>going to just have a positive consequence, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember like at the very beginning of all

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of this. There was a lawyer who said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to keep your head where your feet are.

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<v Speaker 1>And so many times I've noticed when I'm like laying

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>in bed, because that's really like at night when my

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 1>anxiety kicks in, and in the morning, when I see

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the sun come up, I'm like, oh fuck, we got it.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I got to start the day and it starts

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>all over again, and what am I gonna have to

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 1>deal with today? But when I and I realized the disconnect,

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>my head is like up in the clouds going a

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>million miles an hour, and I have to, like, literally

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it feels literally put my head back onto my body

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>where my feet are. And I immediately when I can

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>connect my head to my feet, calmness. Yeah, right now

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>we're laying in the bed. You ain't got to think

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>about shit right now, we're podcasting. Just think about that. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:49.479
<v Speaker 1>And that's a lot.

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And yeah. And that's the thing we talked about last

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>week too, is like why worry about something that hasn't

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 2>happened yet. If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, and

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to feel the negative emotions when it happens,

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>but you worrying about it is like you're gonna have

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.719
<v Speaker 2>to feel those negative emotions twice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, this is my teachable moment. And I

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>think all of us go through this where we every

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>experience in life is teaching us something. And I've never

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>believed in your strength is being tested. I feel I

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like your strength is being shown rather than tested.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 1>But these are teachable moments, and for me, I have

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to remember I don't need to cross bridges that we're

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>not at yet. Yeah, I'm thinking about bridges that I

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>may never even have to cross at all.

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And you're feeling the feelings probably of oh shit in yeah,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 2>if you're feeling the feelings of what you would feel

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>approaching those bridges when you may never approach them, So

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>why put yourself through that?

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But I think that most people relate to that.

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>We all live on a what if we got to

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>stop living on a what if? I'm all about it, B,

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>but let's not. Let's take the plan B, put it

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>in a box and visit it when it needs to

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>be visited.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's there if it needs to be right. Yeah, Wow,

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I love I love these episodes.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Here we go. We go from eating nast to manifestation

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 1>bitch drinks you go to now being sober? Perier, where

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>are you at? I'm gonna need you to be like, hey, Lalla,

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>we would love to sponsor you. I mean, I literally

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>how many dress how many bitches filled to the brim?

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I have Perier's coming out of my ears and they're

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>wiped out as quickly as they're put in the fridge.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Some might say too many, We are all. We always

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>have them stocked at the office. We've got to have

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>them stocked at Lala's house. Perier, the amount of ideas

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Lalla has to just creatively push your brand. If you

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>sponsor her or this podcast, it's gonna when you finally

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>we're manifesting that. And when you finally sponsor Lalla, we're

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a little Perier celebration.

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>That's my go to drink. Yeah, and it makes me

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>happy when I say to a waiter, do you have

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>sparkling water, preferably Perier, and they say we do it.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Like the joy that it brings me, Yeah, it makes

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>me sad. It's almost like like you being gone on

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a long trip and you're finally home. That's what Perry

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel Oh, my God, makes me feel like

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm at home. I'm not kidding. I have a profound

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>love for it, you really do.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I want to love anything as much as you love Perier,

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>to be honest.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So people ask me what's your drink of choice when

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you go out of Perier? A Perier that's it, Perier

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in a champagne glass, periy and a short glass perio

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>camp Perier at the bottle. I don't care, or just

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>get it in my body.

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>That's true. And when you are looking for something a

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>little sweeter you you do? Do you still go with

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Starla or no?

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Starla's we want to get real. When I'm having

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a rough day, starless sparkling rose done a champagne glass

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>takes all my cares away.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and these are sponsored, my friends, These are just

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>her loves Placibo effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>You know how people have the like like diamond encrusted

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>like McDonald's bags, and I want to get you or

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>find a could you imagine a diamond encrusted like Perier purse?

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there's a a designer named Judith Lieber. If

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen like the Kardashians with their super sparkly,

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred dollar bill purses that they take around.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Ye've seen cupcakes. So I have the hammer Okay, a

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>hamburger purse. Oh my. I bought it for myself because

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I was so obsessed. She does it in like hot dogs.

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, these are amazing aliens.

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's sold out, but I spent just shy of

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars on it. I'm looking right here, six

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>grand Okay.

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Is it like swar Off skik Yes, okay.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>You can't fit shit in it. It's literally all about looks.

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I've taken it out all of one time, and when

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I take it out, there's nothing in it except maybe

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>a chapstick, okay, and then the rest of the stuff

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I give to my husband. I'm like, hold my wallet,

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>here's my lipliner. Actually, if I have like a little

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>tiny nub of a lipliner, I can put that in

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it too, like if I've shaved it down to the

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>point where it's just like a tiny little guy. So

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it's an accessory, total accessory. It's just meant to be like,

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>oh that's weird. Yeah, I'm oddly fucking awesome because it's

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a hamber her purse. I mean, look at this shit, Jess.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>We got to post this on the ground, and I

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>really expect how you look at that? Am I lying?

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Five six hundred and ninety five dollars?

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's beautiful though.

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I deserve this. I don't know

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.959
<v Speaker 1>what belt I deserved it, but I bought it. Well

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you do.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if she makes for they the brand

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Judith Lieber may would make an actual.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. We should reach out. I mean, look,

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>she has a croissant, she has a Wilbur, the pig Wilbur.

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, these are there?

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, a hot dog, the hot dog sold out, a.

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Rainbow basketball French fries?

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding? I know how much is that one? Same? Same?

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Six thousand?

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Five six nine?

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's reach out to her. Let's see if

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>she can make me a perryer Perth. That'd be fucking awesome, right.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 2>No, that'd be incredible. I've been thinking about it, and

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, but where would I get one made?

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Judith Leber leb yours for six gees?

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Easy? Good god? So there's that. Yes, I love Perry.

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>That's my go to when it comes to non alcoholic beverages,

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had something more fun for you guys.

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>There's also I used to love this at the very

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>beginning of sobriety, where it was like I need something

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in a short glass. Have them do sparkling water and

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>then mostly pineapple juice, so like pineapple juice, splash of

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the sparkling water, lime, and then if they can do

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it to heen rim. That's like a.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Skinny margarita vibe, isn't it. No, maybe not, but I mean,

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean it sounds great. It sounds like.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Take out the juice. I think of the skinny margarita

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.719
<v Speaker 1>is literally just tequila and like a lot of lime juice, right,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and maybe a splash of sparkling water.

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know there is because all the things you're

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>saying seem like they wouldn't be a sugar overload either,

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>which I love. But if you are looking for a

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 2>sugar not a sugar overload, but like a simple syrup,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>which is just sugar and water heated until the sugar dissolves.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>A simple syrup with like grapefruit, ginger, beer, sparkling water,

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it's basically a mule like a moscow. Mule, but just

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>take out the alcohol and that's really good too, Like

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Kyle and I. If I'm feeling like Cocktailey but don't

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>want alcohol, I'll make like a sweet sugary drink like that.

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I like more like sour over sweet. Yeah.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And you said you were never when you did drink.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>You were never a big sweet drink person, were you?

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>You were just like vodka vodka soda, Yeah, with no fruit.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want lime, lemon, nothing really.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no margarita's ever, or did you?

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>When I went to a Mexican jokay, I would get

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a margarita, but it wasn't like that was my go

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>doo too, and I would usually only have one of

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>a fun drink. And then it was like all vodka sodas.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Smart love mes vodka sodas. I love the best. Yeah.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Like when I watch someone order a drink and it's

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 1>a vodka soda, I'm like, the first sip you're about

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to have, Oh lifetime ever?

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Really? I hate vodka.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>What do you like? Tequila? Yeah?

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 2>But even tequila, it's been like giving me rash, just

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>like I just don't really drink, you know that, Kaya,

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't either yeah, or.

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Like Rose, Okay, that's nice. There was another funny part

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>season four where Brittany I think we're in Hawaii. We

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>are in Hawaii, and I'm like wanting to bond with

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the group. I had my little black thonged bikini on

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>because everyone was like she went took her top off

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:26.439
<v Speaker 1>at the waterfall. So I was like, tomorrow, I'm gonna

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>bring my ass out. Then you guys want to call

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>me a ho, I'm gonna show you a ho bitch.

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>And we're sitting on these floaties and Brittany wants to

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 1>play a game called baseball bat and we're like, okay,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>what is in She was like, you literally passed the

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>bottle and drink it, and I'm like, this is not

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a game, this is just us passing. I'm for drinking.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I take a sip and I know it's tequila. I

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>hate tequila, but like, I want to fit in and

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I want this could be a Bonnie experience. We're on

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this big floaty together. I take a sip, it's warm,

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and I vomit into the water. There's a vomit floating around.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Is this on the show.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it made the cut, but it

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was definitely on the show. I don't know that they

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>showed me. I do know that they showed me bending over.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I was throwing up, But I think they were like, oh,

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 1>this is a great time to show that Lalla's ass

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and vagina are hanging out. They had to blur it

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>because I had on a skippy bikini.

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Wait, so you threw up. There's vomit floating. Do people

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>all like run out or is it not even that traumatic?

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>No? They were gross. Just like if I hated it's

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>some dumb bitch who took her top off in front

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of my dude and then had her ass out and

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>she threw up, I'd be like, bitch, you a rookie,

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>get off this raft.

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny to think about if you would. Do

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you think you would get along with a U?

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>No, because I've met bitches like me and I can't

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>stand him. Really Yeah, I'm like, oh, you're annoying, And

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, it's because you're looking in a mirror.

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Basically, that is so interesting.

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I do not connect with people who are like me,

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>not one bit. Really, No, I think I think I'd

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>be annoyed by me back then. Yeah, well, you know

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>what it is what it is. I was young, I

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>was like on a television show and I was like,

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>bring the dogs out.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, they say that the things you hate most about

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 2>people is like your deepest insecurity. So I hate I

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>really can't connect with people who come off as desperate

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to me, and so deep down I must be like desperate.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, You're not.

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not desperate, but like when I've had a lot

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 2>of women in my life who like, I love them,

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 2>but they're they're just there's some sort of desperation, whether

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>or not it's for a man or for like a

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a job or for and it like triggers me for

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 2>some reason. And we've had I've had a lot of

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>arguments with women in my life about it, and desperation

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>triggers me. And like I've read so many times, what

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 2>triggers you and other people? You have some sort of

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 2>thing in yourself. I don't know who knows that you know?

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That could be very true. I don't know.

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel desperate, but I'm like, well, it triggers

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 2>me in other people, Like I don't know what I'm saying.

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Just because you don't connect with someone doesn't mean that

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>person is you Yeah, yeah, yeah's true, Like you don't

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like people who are desperate, doesn't mean that I were desperate.

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>This person asked, if you could give your younger self

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>any advice, what would you say? I like this because

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of the topic we're on. Yes, what would you say

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to your younger self? I don't even know.

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I would say, like, really stick, I know we

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just said it, but full circle, I would say, your

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>choices and actions have consequences, because when I was younger,

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I was making bad choices. Yeah, I'm talking like I

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>mean this is when I was, you know, twenty two,

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 2>but like drinking and driving, like really terrible, terrible, nasty

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>decisions like that. Kyle almost broke when the first year

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>we dated, he almost broke up with me because I

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 2>were drinking. Well, he found out that I drank drove

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's like I don't stand for that, Like that's

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>like that's the one that he was like, I'm you

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>can go do that with someone else, but not me,

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't since then, but I would basically just

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>tell myself like I was like an asshole to certain

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 2>people I'm talking to, like men are like used people.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 2>This was before Kyle but like used men and then

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>like when they showed some sort of emotion, I made

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>them feel like, Okay, no, this was just a hookup,

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>like and like I hurt people's feelings, And I would

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>just say, like, your actions have your actions and choices

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>have consequences, and you need to think about that.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what I would say, Okay, oh yeah that. I

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.959
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what I would tell my younger self

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like there's so much that has been

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>positive that's come out of my life, and I don't

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>think that i'd be where I am without every move

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that I made. I think I would just tell her

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to like give herself some grace and show yourself some

0:39:55.040 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>compassion and don't beat yourself up, because like I don't

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>even need people to beat me up. Like I'll do

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that enough for the both of us. You know, if

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you think I say things and like every post that

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I do, I will sit and think about for hours,

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>like why did I post? Like I hate social media?

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Every story I post, every photo, video, whatever it may be,

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I sit there and obsess over it for hours,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>going you know, what are people going to think? What

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 1>are people going to say? And I have to talk

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>myself through it, and then you know, so when people

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>say like you're a badass and don't care about certain things, No,

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I care a lot. I've just tried my best to

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>put the tools that I have to good use on

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:43.399
<v Speaker 1>getting over it so that it doesn't it doesn't become debilitating. Yeah,

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't keep me from living life and being outspoken.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I almost feel like, am I too hyper sensitive to things?

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Am I seeing things for what they are? Like? Is

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the world really getting to a place where it's evil

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and I can't understand it? Am I making this up?

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>In my mind? I spiral over these things. Do I

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>share my thoughts or do I just shut the fuck up?

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Question off of that, around this time two years ago,

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>what would you tell yourself and what do you hope

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>yourself a year from now will feel?

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I think when this all happened, what I would have

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>told myself? Just I don't think I would have told

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>myself anything.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Two years ago. No, you would let yourself just experience

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 2>what's coming.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I had to. I experienced everything. I mean, there's going

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a day where I'm going to have to

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>do intense therapy to like not have trust issues anymore.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But as far as like just the hand that I

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>was dealt in this situation, it was like I did everything.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I was in survival mode and to think about the

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>things that I and having to go through, and you

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>have to remember this is not if it just affected me,

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>we would be in a very different situation. I can

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>get over things, I really can. But when you have

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>a little innocent human that you brought into the world

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>who had no say in the matter at all, and

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you giving up because it's easier for you, the

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.240
<v Speaker 1>child is going to suffer those consequences. So there's nothing

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I could have told myself back then except for reminding

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:37.760
<v Speaker 1>myself every day that everything is temporary, nothing is forever.

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, like this will come to an end. I

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the end is going to look like,

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>but I have to just have faith that whoever is

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>looking out for Ocean, her wellbeing will be protected in

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the end period. So I have to believe that something

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>greater than myself, something greater than Ocean, is looking out

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>for her. I'm going to be just fine. Yeah, there's

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a bigger thing happening here, and it's not just about me,

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's not just about ocean. It's about what's wrong.

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>This is about what is broken in the system. And

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a privileged person. I can't imagine what some people

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>go through in this system. It is beyond heartbreaking. So

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I would just tell myself that things are temporary and

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>then moving forward, a year from now, I'll be free.

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you will. And not to confuse anyone, Sorry I

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 2>said two years ago. It was only a year and

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 2>a few months ago. I didn't want to confuse. I

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know why I thought it was two years ago.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You're fine. I also want to say I know that

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>it's been a year and some change of podcasts that

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>are all over the place, and I want to thank

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone for allowing me to go from like really funny

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about sex and all of these things, to going

0:43:55.640 --> 0:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>deep and sobbing to ending on a high note. I

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>know this podcast is very intense. I just just roll

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>with me. Guys. I'm praying that it ends soon, but

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like I'm in it. This is my life.

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 2>You're giving them Lalla, which when we asked a few

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 2>months ago, what do you guys want? So many messages

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>said more Lalla more her life more her, this, more

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 2>her that, and this is your life.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>This is my teachable moment. Lala, We're gonna see if

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you do know how to shut the fuck up. Yeah.

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It's hard though, because allala that shut the fuck shuts

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the fuck up. It's not a world I want to

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 2>live in.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:36.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to live in that world either.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like, that's not you. You give your opinion and

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>it helps people. It's not like you give your opinion

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>on a lot of things and people are like, this

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 2>just ruined my day. Thanks a lot. We get dms

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>that are like, thank you so much, I've gone through

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>this blah blah blah blah blah. She keeps me going,

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 2>so all.

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Right, I love that. Mm hmmm. This person wants to know,

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>did you experience physical withdrawal when you stop drinking? Ooh ooh,

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>good question. Yes you did. Oh yeah, like the cold

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>sweats and jitters and like not. I mean, luckily I

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to go to a treatment center. I did

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>tell my sober coach, the first person I reached out

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to when I got sober. She said, with what you're

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>telling me because I shared my story, She said, I

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>would highly recommend that you go to a treatment center.

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 1>This sounds very intense, and I said, I am so

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>in this that I don't feel like I need a

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>treatment center, which, by the way, if you need one, go,

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but I knew mentally I'm fucking done like it ends

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to like it ended, We're done now. I just need

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you to help me stay here, I said. If I relapse,

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>then I'll check in same day, no problem. But I

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 1>did have the withdrawals.

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You're dead, Yeah, is that like nausea, shay sweating?

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just like the cold sweats and like

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a deep depression. But it was like it was a definite,

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>like physical reaction to not I mean, my body had

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>been used to it for a really long time and

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>super heavily. After my dad died. It was like morning

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>until I passed out. Wow.

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything that you could do, just in case

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 2>anyone's going through this that helps? Is it like or

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>is it like? No, you just gotta get through it.

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is everyone's addiction looks different. So I

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see Because I'm no doctor, I just

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>can speak from my personal experience. So if you told

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>me that you were exactly like me, then I would say,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 1>like you got this. But I do, like I've always said,

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of people who are experts in fields, like

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>reach out to them. They're here for us when we

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 1>need them, like take advantage of it. And but rehab

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>is expensive. I know, it's beyond expensive. And that's why

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful for the program that I'm in, because it

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter where you come from, what your financial situation is,

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome at any point in time to come here

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>for free.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing. It's like everything costs money nowadays, and

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the most incredible programs that has helped millions

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.320
<v Speaker 2>of people is free.

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I always feel guilty because when I'm

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in my meetings, you know, we talk about how the

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 1>program should not be brought into radio television, and I

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about the program a lot. Obviously, I would never

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 1>share anyone else's experience because it's anonymous, but I just

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>feel this need to share that, like this program has

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>saved my life in not just drinking in many areas

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>where like I'm having a rough day and I'm not

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna drink. I don't need a meeting because

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm gonna drink. I'm just having a

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.439
<v Speaker 1>rough day. I step in that meeting and I leave

0:47:57.880 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>feeling like I could take on the world. I'm revived.

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's beautiful sharing it. I mean, I understand,

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand, like I've never been in it, but

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 2>normalizing being able to say, if you want to, yeah,

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I go to aa ar. I because on another podcast

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I listened to armtare Expert. He always talks about his program,

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 2>being in the program in sobriety, you talk about it.

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Incredible, the fears you have raising a little girl in

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a world like we have right now. Oh well, I

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>watched twenty twenty on the Idaho University murders last night,

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's it. Ocean's not going to

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 1>college anywhere. Yeah, she can go to college where I live.

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 1>This is where she'll be staying. I will drop her

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>off at school, I will wait for her to be done,

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I will walk her to her next class, and then

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll take her home. This couple who was madly in

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>love and all of a sudden, you know, he's they've

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>got children, and then they get divorced and he's put

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a hit out on his wife. Okay, you're never getting married.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fears. My biggest one though,

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.959
<v Speaker 1>was social media at a young age, because Ocean really

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't into like electronics right now. I had this I

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>have an ancient iPad and I just cleared off last

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>night and I'm like, and Mom's like, you need to

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>order a case. And I'm like, I don't even know

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>what decade my bad is from how I was supposed to

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>order a case. I don't even think they make cases.

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to eBay that shit. But she like

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>had no interest in it. I was showing her all

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>of these things that she can do on the iPad,

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, she had no interest. She wanted

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to go and play with her, like cleaning supplies that

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I got her. She loves cleaning the house and my

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.399
<v Speaker 1>mom last met yesterday. She was like, Okay, now get

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 1>because my housekeeper who you know her? I love her

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.280
<v Speaker 1>so much. So she says, God, bless you, La Lah,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. And I'm like, why are you

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>thinking me like you're you are you keep your energy,

0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>keeps my life together. She's amazing. She's amazing. Unfortunately, she

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>was in a car accident so she can't work for

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the next month, and she was like, I hope my

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 1>job is still there. I was like, girl, don't worry

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>about the job, Like, I just want to make sure

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you're okay. Yeah, and my mother, I'm watching her and

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>she's telling Ocean to clean underneath this table and I

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, you really are putting her to work.

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 2>She but I've seen her with like that little broom.

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 2>She loves it.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>She loves it.

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 2>That's really cute.

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>So she would rather do that than like be on electronics.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's going to be it for everything.

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>She's only you know, twenty two months, so the phone

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.280
<v Speaker 1>scares me. I'm worried that she's gonna go to school,

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>come home. Tell me that Elizabeth has a new iPhone

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and she wants it. And Elizabeth has Instagram. Why can

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I have Instagram? It's like, you ain't have an Instagram.

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Kate Winslet, she was the one in the Titanic, right, Yeah,

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 2>made a video the other day and she was like,

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and I loved it, but she was like, yeah, my

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 2>kids don't have It's not exactly this, so don't quote me,

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 2>but she was basically saying it's okay to I tell

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 2>your kids no my kids don't have social media. My

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 2>kids don't use iPhones all the time. Like She's like,

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, Like they're gonna be pissed at you, and

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 2>that's okay. You're just gonna have to tell them like

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.760
<v Speaker 2>this is why, this is how I feel, and life

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 2>goes on. And I was like, yeah, that's a great,

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing. I mean, I'm gonna be a

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 2>helicopter parent. I don't like all the things you just said,

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna walk you to school. You're not going

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to college. I'm like, yes, that's but like they gotta live.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:32.960
<v Speaker 1>They do have to bill rebellry. Yeah, no, they will rebel.

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I watched friends in high school rebel like the strict

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Mormon kids giving blowies behind the bleachers and me I

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, that is naughty.

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 2>And you had a very open family. I was a

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 2>rebeller because I had a very drink you know, drinking

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 2>at fifteen. Like let's because I had a family who

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 2>was like no alcohol, no sex, know this.

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:56.839
<v Speaker 1>But then again, I didn't have my first drink until

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I had graduated from high school. And I'm in a

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know. Yeah, we just come how we

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>are like Ocean. Because there's a group of moms, it's

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.399
<v Speaker 1>natural for us to be like, oh, so and so

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>is doing this that Ocean's not doing, or Ocean's doing

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 1>something that so and so is not doing. Like we

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>have these conversations and I tell people they come exactly

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>how they are. I haven't done anything specific with Ocean

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>that has made her into.

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 2>A genius, perfect child that she is. No, she's so sweet,

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 2>like the video we posted on the podcast Instagram last

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>week of her holding Summer Moon's hand.

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>She's sweet. She's very sweet.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.959
<v Speaker 2>And I think they're like good friends now, aren't they

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Ocean's Summer Moon. Oh yeah, that is so cute that

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 2>it's so cute, and.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Says someer Moon Moon, and so goes.

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh Sin, Ohsin, and they give each other hugs and

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 2>they like sit on the couch and watch TV together.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 1>And then we have to teach them how to share.

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>There were many meltdowns in Palm Springs this weekend over

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this fucking like block thing, and Sena sees so she

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is the type where she goes, I have another one.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm the type where if you can't share, ain't no

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>one playing with it? Right? So pick either sit down

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and share it or it's being taken away.

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. And I know we're like running

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 2>low on time, but as two mothers who are friends

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 2>who parent differently, every mother parents differently, does that get harder?

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you guys kind of figure out ways around it?

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Like the sharing, Like you kind of like, okay, well

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I would take the toy away, but if you have

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:40.240
<v Speaker 2>another one.

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm kind of laid back if she wants

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>to give summer. If they has another one, she wants

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>to give it, great. Yeah it I'm more of like,

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, take the toy. I don't care if you

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 1>have a meltdown. Yeah, you're not playing with it. You

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.440
<v Speaker 1>either share or no one gets it. Like they were

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>also fighting over this drawn and my mom goes, well,

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna order one on Amazon so the

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>next time we come they both have the same one

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have to fight over it. I said, no,

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not teaching Ocean that if she has a meltdown

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that means that we just go buy her one of

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>her own. No, it's I said, she has a drawing pad,

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.479
<v Speaker 1>but it's not like that. My mom says, I don't

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 1>give a damn.

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you realize this is so funny what you just

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 2>did because you said, Ocean comes how she is, it's

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 2>nothing I've done to make her so sweet, And then

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you literally proceeded to say all the things that would

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 2>make a child sweet and so it is your parenting.

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I guess it is. I don't know.

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Those are like, yes, those are the things that would

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.319
<v Speaker 2>make a child sweet and share and not you know.

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>That's true because Ocean now counts to ten and we

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like put on that Miss Rachel, which has like, well

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna know, you're gonna know. My mom and I

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 1>look at each other and go like, I fucking hate this?

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it a YouTube all moms do?

0:54:58.480 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>And it has like fifty minutes views just this woman who,

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you can just tell she's just her

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 1>life calling was to teach children because Ocean's in her,

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>in her covered in food, in her high chair with

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 1>her arms in the air. One do three. That's so cute,

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>loving every second of it, which is like, Okay, this

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 1>is totally worth it just watching you.

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 2>But this is some you're gonna know, Miss Rachel.

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Miss Rachel on YouTube.

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 2>See now, maybe if I could go back in life,

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I would make YouTube kids videos because.

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>My god, I mean in the YouTube with Miss Rachel. Yeah,

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.479
<v Speaker 1>someone plays the guitar and teaches them how to crawl

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like a crab.

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 2>That's so cute. Are they is this like good production

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:54.280
<v Speaker 2>or are they just like in their living.

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Room not at all? Not good? Like a green screen

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome and with horrible lighting.

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:01.479
<v Speaker 2>Good because the kids don't care.

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.279
<v Speaker 1>No, the kids don't care. And ocean yeah is a

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>learning from miss Rachel. I will tell you what.

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, counting colors. She's so smart. Yeah, I was like,

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 2>this is I like, picked up a marker the other

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 2>day and went to tell Oshan it was a blue

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 2>marker and went to say, this is blue. And before

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I could get anything out, she goes blue. I was like, well, okay,

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't teach you any I can't teach you nothing she.

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Got Miss Rachel. So you're right, there are things. But

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what's interesting is Brock and I kind of parent the

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:34.919
<v Speaker 1>same way.

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I could see that. I could see that, yeah, from.

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Marion will go down for a nap and Sina will

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know Summer's crying? Yeah, and she is so cute.

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I don't want her to be traumatized. And

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Sina, she's in a beautiful home in Palm Springs,

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 1>in a fabulous she is not going to be traumatized

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 1>by this, Okay, She's gonna be just fine. Where Like

0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Ocean was down for a nap, she wakes up literally

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:05.760
<v Speaker 1>cries for two seconds, and she was like, Ocean's crying,

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I hear her. She's fine, she'll

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:13.879
<v Speaker 1>figure it out. She's still going. Ifive ten minutes past,

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>she's still going, I'll go in there. But right now

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>she's just maybe searching for her bottle. Yeah, I know

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the cry.

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>You know the cry if there was something wrong, you

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 2>would know. That's the kind of mom I want to be.

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think I'm gonna be that way. And

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 2>that's okay. It's gonna take work. But even now, I

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 2>could tell I'm helicopter, and like even when you're I'm

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the office with like you and Lisa, and

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>we'll be eating lunch, and like I'll walk to the

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 2>kitchen and bring Ocean with me and get a snack

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 2>for myself. Yeah, like trail mix and I'll pour it

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like little pieces or whatever, get whatever for myself and

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll pour it in my hand. And I know Ocean

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 2>has to eat lunch. And I know that you and

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Lisa are like Ocean has to eat lunch. But if

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 2>she like points to an eminem, I can't not give

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 2>it to her. And like the other day I brought

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 2>her back in here and she like pointed to an

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 2>eminem I was eating, and I was like, okay, you

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:05.919
<v Speaker 2>could have it, and I like broke it and gave

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 2>her a piece. And then I heard Lisa go like, no, Ocean,

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 2>you have to eat your lunch. And I'm like, damn it.

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, but it's so hard for me, Like I

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 2>want to give them everything they want, I know, and

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:16.919
<v Speaker 2>that's like not the way you mother. I just want

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to like you want it, you got it totally. It's hard,

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm not I'm just gonna have to

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>be thank god I have Kyle because I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>like have to work because even with Margot, he's like

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<v Speaker 2>you let her. When I met Kyle, Margot was a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect dog. And now she like begs and does all

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<v Speaker 2>the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but isn't she getting older?

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<v Speaker 2>She's getting older.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just's Yeah, Lily begs eats things off the table now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you know what, you deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have short lives. They don't live to fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eat off the table, eat off the table again. I

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<v Speaker 1>got much bigger things to worry about than Lily eating

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<v Speaker 1>all of Ocean's lunch off the table when she's finished

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's good to see you as a mom because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like clocking it and like, Okay, you can be

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<v Speaker 2>chill and your child can cry and it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to like be traumatized.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not gonna shouldn't live the dream.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that what I'm saying. She's like the most

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<v Speaker 2>sweet the sweetest child. And I'm like, okay, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you something. Even when you put your

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<v Speaker 1>kid in check, they're still running. Shit. Imagine if you don't, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're running. I've never I'm like, how am I in

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation with a chick who can't even put a full

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<v Speaker 1>sentence together.

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<v Speaker 2>In negotiatation? That's so true, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome. It really is awesome wild, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what parent is like. There's my concerns, my life story.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you guys so much thank you for tuning

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<v Speaker 1>into another chaotic episode of To Give Them La La Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to talk to you guys next

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<v Speaker 1>week