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Speaker 3: July sixteenth, twenty twenty one. And I know why you're

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Speaker 3: His name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: And he might be a beach someday some days. What's up? BC?

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Speaker 3: Hey doo man yo, it's f our listeners ain't got

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Speaker 3: So a lot to get into there. But Luke, I'm

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Speaker 3: Like like, it's not a it's a thing, Luke, it's

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Speaker 1: People who I mean, we can't cry about our jobs.

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Speaker 1: To then have to fly across the country and work

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Speaker 3: Little bit, no, just to recover mentally and physically from

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Speaker 3: the excesses that that city produces. Luke. Even when you're

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Speaker 3: before we get into the good stuff here, you got

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Speaker 3: any weekend plans? You know what's happening in your life.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna work out like a week Yeah. Well, so

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Speaker 3: My wife is leaving in the next forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: Luke, how many forty ounces are you gonna drink in

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Speaker 3: Also in passing here, Luke, our staff really let it

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Speaker 3: Say to my face, I'll tell you when I'm gone.

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Speaker 3: But Luke, when I'm gone, we out bro Okay, we

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Speaker 3: four hangover on all things McGregor, pua, we wait three No, Luke,

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Speaker 3: we back in it. Connor McGregor took to the interwebs

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Speaker 3: Luke Nobody Nobody, I used to say loses better than

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Speaker 1: screen and I don't have, you know, Connor Regregor's excuses. Folks,

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Speaker 1: even with MMA. But like dude opponents who have an

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Speaker 1: that can affect you prior to a camp in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a fight. That's the game, man, Like that's

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Speaker 1: how this all works. Like you mean to tell me

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Speaker 1: on that wind streak, Poorier was on his hip always

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Speaker 3: that's not it. But Luke, I am gonna come at

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Speaker 1: You do listen, If you make the walk, then you

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Speaker 3: Like, there's no look right there, look look right there?

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Speaker 3: So these pictures from Connor are showing continually that there

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Speaker 1: I just think to get to that point, we need

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Speaker 1: a lot more information than we have right now.

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Speaker 3: We need Bob Bennett, we need an abouda State athleticmmission

432
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Speaker 3: to speak.

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Speaker 1: On Benett was just a he's a worthless person. He is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, wow, that's that's hard. That's hard, Luke, that's aggressive.

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Speaker 3: The commission the biggest Bob Benett fan, but that's a great.

436
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Speaker 1: Okay, but the commission, dude, he is such an agent.

437
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Speaker 1: Abdicates all responsibility this guy. They are serving the promoter

438
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Speaker 1: interest by making whatever was disclosed and pay. However fractional

439
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Speaker 1: and insufficient as it was in terms of the total picture,

440
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Speaker 1: it was at least something, and that's they are supposed

441
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Speaker 1: to be the firewall for that. They have then gone

442
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Speaker 1: and advocated and changed the laws on behalf of the

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Speaker 1: promoter to create more secrecy, less transparency. And that's the

444
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Speaker 1: same with all pre fight medical questionnaires and know it

445
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Speaker 1: is not a hippo violation on any of that stuff,

446
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Speaker 1: at least for the most part. Anyway. I'm just trying

447
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Speaker 1: to point out, like dude, their commitment to transparency on

448
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Speaker 1: what the public should have an interest in knowing is abysmal.

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Speaker 3: And the reason, Luke, is because of what the UFC

450
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Speaker 3: does to that local economy by constantly putting blockbusters in there.

451
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Speaker 3: It's the same reason in twenty twelve why Floyd Mayweather

452
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Speaker 3: was allowed to delay his jail sentence by a full

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Speaker 3: month to fit in the Miguel Coto pay per view,

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Speaker 3: because the local and you know, state government got involved

455
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Speaker 3: and were like, no, oh, this is too this is

456
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Speaker 3: too much money for our economy. We got to give

457
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Speaker 3: this guy, you know, some extra time. I mean, it's

458
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Speaker 3: all ridiculous, I think, though I'm gonna need a statement

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Speaker 3: soon from Bob Ben and company to figure all that out.

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Speaker 3: It's wild, Luke. So if this did a report, it

461
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Speaker 3: as UFC two sixty four reported one point three domestic

462
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Speaker 3: pay per view buys, which even without the international ones

463
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Speaker 3: added on, still shows you Connor's brand is strong. People

464
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Speaker 3: were into this fight. It was very well promoted. What

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Speaker 3: do you think had he pulled out or had the

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Speaker 3: UFC encouraged him or forced him to pull out, what

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Speaker 3: would our da versus poorier have done?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Two thousand, Luke?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if that, if yeah, something like that, something like that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be a very good fight. Actually wouldn't

472
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Speaker 1: have been a bad fight, but yeah, there would have

473
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Speaker 1: been not even nearly as much money brought in, and

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Speaker 1: he's one hundred million dollars. I mean, listen, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on these people too, like why doesn't

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Speaker 1: Connor pull out? Listen, it's hard to be Connor McGregor.

477
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Speaker 1: You got a lot riding on your shoulders. You got

478
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Speaker 1: a lot of people counting on big money for you.

479
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Speaker 1: Of course big money for himself as well. He has

480
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Speaker 1: a lot of personal interest. There is a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure for him to continue. So he's gonna make every

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Speaker 1: possible effort. But then to your point earlier, okay, you

483
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Speaker 1: know that, but there has to be some kind of

484
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Speaker 1: accommodation for that, you would think anyway in the fight itself,

485
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Speaker 1: and then he came out just like throwing them almost

486
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Speaker 1: in a blitzing kind of way. He had double the

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Speaker 1: output from a volume striking standpoint in the third fight

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Speaker 1: than he did in the second fight in terms of

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Speaker 1: the first round. So it's like, even if you wander

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Speaker 1: grant him all of these factors of CLEMENCYBC, there are

491
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Speaker 1: still unanswered questions no matter which way you turn here,

492
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Speaker 1: and they don't all you know, find Connor to be

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Speaker 1: in the right.

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Speaker 3: Well, this evidence does, though, answer some more questions. I mean,

495
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Speaker 3: it explains why Connor fought so rabid, which again was

496
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Speaker 3: something that I praised from the idea that do I

497
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Speaker 3: think he's passed his prow, of course, but I do

498
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Speaker 3: think he can still win big fights. I do think

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Speaker 3: he showed even in that one round that he would

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Speaker 3: be credible against almost anybody. Now would you favor him

501
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Speaker 3: to win that's another topic. But now I'm realizing Luke

502
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Speaker 3: Keith fought that rabbid because he realized he had limited

503
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Speaker 3: time before the injury would have, you know, eventually happen

504
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: again again. My problem is in that mix between do

505
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Speaker 3: we praise him for carrying on the show anyway and

506
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Speaker 3: being that tough, or should we rip him for basically

507
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Speaker 3: being an idiot Luke and leading with the injured limb

508
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Speaker 3: and you know, sparring without patting. I guess from the

509
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Speaker 3: idea of strengthening up the legs for that. I mean,

510
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Speaker 3: it's a it's all wild, Luke. I just think at

511
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, now that we have from

512
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Speaker 3: all the facts that we have, now it's extra damning. Look,

513
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Speaker 3: people are like, hey, MK, how are you not even

514
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Speaker 3: talking about that? McGregor responded to Pourier's tweet about it

515
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Speaker 3: with a picture of his daughter and put, you know,

516
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Speaker 3: a disparaging comment on there, like, yeah, that's all despicable shit.

517
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Speaker 3: I think it's all in the grounds of trying to

518
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Speaker 3: promote another fight. But I think when you add all

519
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Speaker 3: the evidence that we do know together, it's overwhelmingly damning

520
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Speaker 3: toward Connor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't really matter, you know, one way or

522
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Speaker 1: the other. Did he really post a picture like that

523
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Speaker 1: so you.

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Speaker 3: Don't know about this, Luke. This happened when's or late Tuesday.

525
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Speaker 3: So Dustin put up a picture I think of his

526
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Speaker 3: of his wife and kid, and Connor responded, maybe don't

527
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Speaker 3: want to miss quote here with responded with gonzo go

528
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Speaker 3: o n e z o and then deleted it quickly after.

529
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Speaker 3: So people took that as a direct like, you know,

530
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Speaker 3: I'll kill your daughter too, you know what I mean,

531
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Speaker 3: that type of thing, which I'm not. You know, That's

532
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Speaker 3: why I'm trying. I'm trying to figure out the interpretation

533
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Speaker 3: in real time. I mean, it certainly feels like it's disparaging.

534
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Speaker 3: I mean the fact that he deleted it right, but

535
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean look at it so real quick

536
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Speaker 3: and you touched on this in in your live chat

537
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Speaker 3: on Thursday. I always encourage people to check that out,

538
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Speaker 3: even though it's very very light on BC. But uh uh,

539
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Speaker 3: you know that that we all have limits on what

540
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Speaker 3: should be acceptable behavior and trash talk. I've always said

541
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Speaker 3: when it goes to the level of like religion and nationalities,

542
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Speaker 3: to the point of where Connor and Habibi I was

543
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Speaker 3: getting fearful that, like you know, Arenas, We're going to

544
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Speaker 3: get attacked and shited like just a you know, because

545
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Speaker 3: people are pretty serious about stuff like that. You made

546
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Speaker 3: a good point on Thursday where corporately, if the trash

547
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Speaker 3: talks going in a direction that has really been bad

548
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Speaker 3: for the brand, and you brought up the idea of

549
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Speaker 3: what if it was you know, anti, what if it

550
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Speaker 3: was homophobic comments stuff like that? Where do you think

551
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Speaker 3: that official line is not just on what Dana will tolerate,

552
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Speaker 3: but what the fight game in general should tolerate.

553
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Speaker 1: The fight game basically means what the community should tolerate,

554
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Speaker 1: and which means that the community should have a conversation

555
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Speaker 1: and a debate about it about where the line is, and,

556
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Speaker 1: uncomfortably for me, I would imagine there's gonna be a

557
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Speaker 1: lot of people who are a lot more okay with Again,

558
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Speaker 1: we're not talking about any kind of legal action or

559
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Speaker 1: anything like that, but just in terms of what is

560
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Speaker 1: an appropriate way to converse in society, there's gonna be people,

561
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Speaker 1: probably in the community who have a lot more lenient

562
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Speaker 1: attitudes towards things we should It allows folks to say,

563
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Speaker 1: I think from a corporate standpoint and a personal standpoint,

564
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Speaker 1: you have to have your own line in the sand,

565
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Speaker 1: and then an understanding of what you could reasonably forgive

566
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Speaker 1: corporations for looking the other way on And you know,

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Speaker 1: I can only advocate for what I think is the

568
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Speaker 1: right answer. I don't know that I have the answer

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Speaker 1: for the community. The only thing I would say is

570
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Speaker 1: the only way to really keep the order in this

571
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Speaker 1: kind of way is for outside forces to pressure to

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Speaker 1: the inside, like getting folks on the inside to like

573
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Speaker 1: be reviled enough by what something says. That's that's almost

574
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Speaker 1: impossible to do. There's just not enough.

575
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Speaker 3: Because like, look, I don't want to soften this up

576
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Speaker 3: too much. You know, it's a debate you and I

577
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Speaker 3: had quickly on Monday where it's like, it's still the

578
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 3: fight game at the end of the day. It's still

579
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Speaker 3: if two guys in a bar, or in a school

580
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Speaker 3: yard or two kids are gonna go fight, like usually

581
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Speaker 3: right before the fist or thrown. Some pretty whack shit

582
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Speaker 3: have said. But it's it's meant to spice up the

583
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Speaker 3: fight in a lot of ways. But that what that

584
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Speaker 3: mean I would tolerate racial coming. No, I don't want

585
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Speaker 3: that shit in there, you know what I mean? So

586
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: I guess there has to be a line. A lot

587
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Speaker 3: of our fans even were like bringing in the wife

588
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: tweeting at the picture of the daughter. That's too far.

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Speaker 1: That's some pretty cool. I'm uncomfortable when Connor does that.

590
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable when fighters make it racial or

591
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Speaker 1: when they you know, they go on some kind of

592
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: awful tirade about somebody that is you know, it seems

593
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: like they're attacking their not not who they've become as

594
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Speaker 1: a person, but like identities that they can't shed. I

595
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: get uncomfortable with that personally. That's just where I'm at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's rule. There's no rules of engagement here,

597
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: but there is we we know when it's gone too far.

598
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: It's close. It's getting pretty close, even for guys like

599
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: me who want to keep some tough guy, you know,

600
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: foundational standard in there. That No, it's the freaking fight game, man.

601
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: We should be allowed to you know. Yeah, but it's close.

602
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: It's getting close.

603
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's Connor wrapping up their topic to Luke.

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Speaker 3: Showtime Championship Boxing this Saturday, San Antonio, nine pm Eastern

606
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Speaker 3: is the tripleheader and the main is a great one.

607
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Speaker 3: Jermel Charlow, your WBA, IBFWBC champion at one hundred and

608
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: fifty four pounds takes on unbeaten WBO champion Brian Castano

609
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Speaker 3: to crown the first undisputed super welterweight champion of this

610
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: current four belt era, which really goes back to the

611
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: last twenty plus or so years. Luke, the winner will

612
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: become just the sixth male fighter. And I read the

613
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Speaker 3: reason why I put that asterisk on the mail is

614
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Speaker 3: it's happened a bunch of times in the female game

615
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Speaker 3: the last few years. And no disrespect to the great fighters,

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Speaker 3: Clarissa Shield, Cecilia Brak, who's a couple others who have

617
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Speaker 3: done it, But Luke on the on the highest level

618
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: in the women's game, you see a lot of times

619
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Speaker 3: some vacant titles thrown onto fights to jazz them up,

620
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: so people aren't winning the belts per se by defeating somebody.

621
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Speaker 3: A lot of these titles are just getting added in.

622
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Speaker 3: But Luke, for the purpose of this, this fight matters

623
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Speaker 3: stakes wise. You and I hosted yesterday's press conference today

624
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Speaker 3: two pm Eastern on the Showtime Sports YouTube channel. We

625
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Speaker 3: will also be hosting the weigh in check that out

626
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: as well. Luke, we know the storylines, we know the

627
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: stakes in terms of the fights, the fighters, they're contrasting styles.

628
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Speaker 3: What are you looking for in terms of how this

629
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Speaker 3: fight might be decided Saturday Night?

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Speaker 1: I think real estate is the way I've been thinking

631
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Speaker 1: about this. For folks who don't know, there's a sort

632
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Speaker 1: of a basic way to understand this. Castano has half

633
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: the number of fights pro fights anyway, but it has

634
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: much more volume per round, a significant amount of volume,

635
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: and doesn't necessarily have to fight on the inside, although

636
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Speaker 1: you just see the inevitably through the rounds that he's winning,

637
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: fights get pushed back and then often end up going

638
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: on the ropes, and he's the one doing a lot

639
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: of the pushing. But it'd be unfair to say he

640
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Speaker 1: can't do mid range boxing. He can do midrange boxing

641
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Speaker 1: at high volume as well. All of this is to

642
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: say BC, I actually think it should look a little

643
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Speaker 1: bit like his brother's fight against Montiel last week or

644
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Speaker 1: not last week, I'm sorry, but in the previous Charli

645
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: fight between the two, which is I think that you

646
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: just need to expect some level of just just let

647
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: it play out where you. Dynamic comes to life, Castano

648
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: offering tons of volume, lots of body work, whatnot, and

649
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Charlo maybe being a bit of a slow starter. Actually,

650
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was necessarily a fast starter, by

651
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: the way, even against Rosario, but when he begins to

652
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: get going, it has a dramatic effect. That's sort of

653
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: what I'm expecting here. I think the real key for

654
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Charlo is one he can't let the volume like there

655
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: is some level of volume and intensity I do think

656
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: he should match, and more important about the real estate.

657
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I actually think he's going to be very very much

658
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: kept in the center as much as possible, even if

659
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: it's very very short range boxing BBC, because if he's

660
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: getting pressed against the ropes, I do think that he

661
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: can still win that way, he can find openings to

662
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Charlo brothers have very athletic, clever counterpunching when they need it. However, however,

663
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: I think the best kind of work will be in

664
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Speaker 1: the middle, because if he's getting pressed against the ropes,

665
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: he might get smothered a bit, and I think that

666
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: actually will hurt him. It's when he can take steps

667
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: and angle out and turn and have that space to

668
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: move in the middle of the RINGBC that I think

669
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: he'll have his best success. But I think it's going

670
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: to take time Dudekastanio is a tough customer man. This

671
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: fight is legit. I think it's gonna this one is

672
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: almost certain to go the distance. And in any case,

673
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: be see if it's gonna get stopped. I think it's

674
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna be much much later.

675
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. If it does go the distance

676
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: and Castanio's you know, his brief history at the elite

677
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: level has shown you that he's durable, He's got incredible stamina.

678
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: So it is, you know, despite Jamel Charlow's big time

679
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: punching power, is a great chance to go to the distance.

680
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: That's when things get really interesting. Luke from a punch

681
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: output standard, and I think that's how this fight is

682
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: going to be won or lost. But I think your

683
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: comment about real estate is going to inform the punch output.

684
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: So let me say it like this. If you don't

685
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: know who Brian Kastania as it comes from Argentina, he's

686
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: unbeaten with one draw. The one draw might have been

687
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: his best performance against Arislandi Lara, the former champion a

688
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: few years back, where he got inside on Lara, made

689
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: it a war and it was really a flip the coin.

690
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: At the end of the Day who you thought won.

691
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: Castano can fight with two fists get inside on you.

692
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: He's still responsible enough defensively though he's not not some reckless,

693
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: you know, brawler. But when he gets in, he pins

694
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: you there and he, you know, attempts almost three times

695
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: as many punches as Charlo according to copy Box, and

696
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: lands more than double. In fact, Luke, he lands more

697
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: than double power shots per round. Then Charlo lands overall punches.

698
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: And what's a power shot basically anything other than a jab.

699
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: So what's gonna happen here? Is this early on if

700
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: Jermal Charlo, who is such a fast, explosive, powerful counter poucher,

701
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: but can fall a little bit too much in love

702
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: with waiting for the perfect countershot opportunity, if he's not

703
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: using his jab Luke like his brother Jermal did against Mantial,

704
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: like Jermal did against Sergei Derevinchenko last fall in their

705
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: pay per view to keep Costano honest in the first

706
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 3: half of this fight, he could be in for some trouble,

707
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: not just because Castano goes to the body so well

708
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: that look, think about it. If you go to the

709
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 3: body on somebody, especially somebody with faster feet than you,

710
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: and Charlo does have faster feet, you're gonna slow them

711
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: down and slowly immobilize them and keep them at your distance.

712
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: But even more than that, Luke, judges love aggression and activity.

713
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: The only black mark on Jermeal Charlo's resume is that

714
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: disputed decision lost to Tony Harrison. Did he win it

715
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: back by knockout the next year in the rematch, Yes,

716
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: But in both fights Jermeal simply didn't throw enough punches.

717
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: He's almost too selective, too efficient, And if Kastanyo is

718
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: not disciplined early with that jab, and if he's allowed

719
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: to get inside, you're not only talking about him potentially

720
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: wearing Charlo down to the body. You're talking about maybe

721
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: doubling the output. And that's what the judges are going

722
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: to look at afterwards. It's probably going to be a

723
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: debate if it goes a distance between Charlo's harder shots

724
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: and Castano's overall aggression and output and Luke more often

725
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: than not, unless those shots are damning from Charlo, meaning

726
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: they move Castano, they visibly hurt him, You're gonna find

727
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: many judges that prefer action, aggression and the guy being

728
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: the ring general and taking the fight to somebody. So

729
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: I think the way that Charlo winsor loses this is

730
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: how much he relies on his jab and Luke. You know,

731
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: you know both Charlo's they can box as well as

732
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: they can punch. Yep, I might have to see Jermel

733
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: the boxer early so that he can become Jermel the

734
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: puncher later in this one.

735
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a great analysis, and I also think

736
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: we see behind that job getting a little I mean, yes,

737
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: you could be a slow starter in the sense of

738
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: overall volume and strategy and what you're really figuring out,

739
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: what works for you and whatnot. But I think part

740
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: of the way he can keep Kastanio honest is again

741
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: matching a little bit of that volume, don't going not

742
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: too far out your comfort zone, but not getting too

743
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: far behind either, maintaining a certain degree of intensity, and

744
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: also make him feel the jab hard early, make him

745
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: feel something early, to get him to start as slow

746
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: as he possibly can as well. Again, that's it requires

747
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more intensity than I think he's

748
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: a little bit comfortable with early on, but I do

749
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: think that would pay dividends to the extent Kastano can't

750
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: get in a rhythm and warm and going, or to

751
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: the extent you can delay that, that's all the time

752
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: he needs to begin to make all the reads he

753
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: has and begin to deliver the things you've talked about. Again,

754
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: the tape is clear. These guys can find openings heavy

755
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: shots very quickly and in tiny, tiny little spaces. They

756
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: need a little bit of time to get there, but

757
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: when they do, it's a thuading shot. To your point

758
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: about the judges too, BC, you're right, dude, I think

759
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: he has to knock them down in this fight, or

760
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: to visibly wobble him a couple of times through the rounds,

761
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: because not that will you win those rounds where that happens.

762
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: You know as well as I do, it kind of

763
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: influences thinking afterward about what those shots mean when they

764
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: land that maybe it wasn't necessarily doing before. It sets

765
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: a big tone for the judges. You're right, that's definitely

766
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: on the table as well.

767
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: And you make a great point about Charlo's need to

768
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: land some big shots early because you know, when I'm

769
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: saying it like it's a Achilles heel saying Charlo doesn't

770
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: throw enough punches, But Luke, when the punches that he

771
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: does throw are landing, it disarms his opponent. He keeps

772
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: them a distance because he's given them reason not to

773
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: get inside on him because he's tagging them. So if

774
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: he does that, Luke, that strategy of not throwing enough

775
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: and being so selective isn't as much of a hindrance.

776
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: But he's got to hurt Kastanio and make him realize

777
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: that this is a different level of fighter that he's

778
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: in there against. And it's a very good fight if

779
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: you're a casual or an MA fan who's like I

780
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: like when BC, you know, recommends good fights. Look, both

781
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Charlo brothers are right on the outside looking in on

782
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: this top ten pound for pound. They are on the

783
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: verge of figuring out if they can become great. If

784
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: Jamel Charlo wins this fight, it's a big, big feather

785
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: in his cap in that direction. So looking forward to

786
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: that also, Luke, big time puncher and swagmaster himself, Rowley

787
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Romero and that co main event there against diggitt Yiggot

788
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: there from England. So good piece of business on Saturday night.

789
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 3: But do you have a prediction at all in terms

790
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: of how this Charlo Castano fight plays out?

791
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: I think Charlo could stop him. I think that's possible.

792
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I'm gonna say one sixteen,

793
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: one twelve this territory for Charlo.

794
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the same score range. I'm predicting basically

795
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: like a majority decision where you will see one scorecard

796
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: even and then maybe too close, but you know, solid

797
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: in favor of Charlo. It's gonna be a close fight.

798
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: It's going to be competitive if Charloe can get him

799
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: out of there. Though. That's a big time statement moving forward,

800
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: Lucas not the only fights this weekend. Las Vegas is

801
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: the site of the Apex for Saturday nights UFC Fight Night.

802
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: We got into the storylines on Wednesday, and there's a

803
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: plenty to like about this sort of in between Fight

804
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: Night card coming off such a big pay per view.

805
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: But in the main event lightweights Islam Makachev Tiago Moys says.

806
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: We talked about that this is almost stay not a

807
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: showcase fight because Moist this is a tough out here,

808
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: but it's a prop up fight for Islam Makachev in

809
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: a five round distance. Habib there talking him up in

810
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: interviews all week. Luke, this is a big deal for

811
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: that brand. Meaning, could Islam Makachev be you know, get

812
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of that runoff from the smesh factory

813
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: now that Hibiib's gone, and be the fighter of the

814
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: moment from the Great Caucus region. We'll have to figure

815
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: that out. What type of you know, style in sort

816
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: of hurdle could Moistus present against him.

817
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, to be honest with you, I think

818
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: this is a tough fight for him. Candidly again, I'm

819
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: with you, Tiago. Moistus is not a chump. He's a

820
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: good fighter. He's talented, he's well rounded, he's experienced. But

821
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm struggling to come up with what I can determine

822
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: at least pre fight. And you know, fights are crazy.

823
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. But pre fight, I don't

824
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: really know what you can point to here to say that,

825
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: like Moyses has to clear upper hand, probably some forms

826
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: of guard work. Maybe that's really about it as far

827
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: as I can tell. I mean, listen, there's a lot

828
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: of ways you could point to this being a bad

829
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: fight for him. The two that I would point to

830
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: is one on top. Makachev's submission in wrestling game is

831
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: going to be I think pretty lights out. I think

832
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: he does heavy passing. I think he is heavy on top.

833
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: He has excellent ground and pound. I mean he's a

834
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with. There more to that point,

835
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: he has ninety three excuse me, he his takedown percentage,

836
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: so his ability to accurately secure the takedown per attempt

837
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: is sixty eight percent. Now, that may sound to some

838
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: folks like, oh, shouldn't it be higher. No, most fighters,

839
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: including elite ones, are around fifty percent, often lower. Kabib's lifetime,

840
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: I think it's forty eight. Forty seven, sixty eight is

841
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: extremely high. That is really that's for a guy this

842
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: experience in the UFC, that's almost unheard of high, unbelievable,

843
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: and once he gets going, he is hard to beat.

844
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: There he has endless cardio. This is only three there's

845
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: a five round contest, so that could get interesting a

846
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: little bit later, I suppose. But BC here's the other

847
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: sort of stat point strikes landed permittent for Thiago Moyst's

848
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: two point eight five strike's absorbed per minute three point

849
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: eight eight. Now, some of that can be thrown out

850
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: due to outlier fights that may not represent the worst

851
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: of what he has to show. There but what I

852
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: would say, you see is it's just a reality. Listen

853
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: to this for Islam Makic strikes landing per a minute,

854
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: a little bit modest, I would say, in just two

855
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: strikes absorbed zero point seventy seven. They're not laying a

856
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: glove on this guy. So you look at the takedown percentage,

857
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: you look at his ability to control, You see the

858
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: unique styles he has with grappling, with wrestling, how well prepared,

859
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: how experienced he is, and then you see that Moyses

860
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: has the takedown issues. Take the defense he she excuse me,

861
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: along with he takes a lot of damage relative to Makachev.

862
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: I just don't know what the path to victory is

863
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: here for him.

864
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: Mos is twenty six years old from Brazil on a

865
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: three fight win streak Luke over the past year, getting

866
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 3: a submission of Michael Johnson, decision wins over Bobby Green

867
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: and Alexander Hernandez, but a big step up and wait

868
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: for Makachev. Can you give me sort of a casual

869
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: breakdown for anybody who's like I kind of know Markachev.

870
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: He's got the kind of he's Habib's boy. What's the

871
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: difference in sort of the foundational fighting style between a

872
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: Habib and what Islam Makachev is forming here.

873
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: Islam has a lot of the same abilities, do a

874
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: lot of the same things, to be sure, but this

875
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: is you know, a certain kind of his own grappling style.

876
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: He's much bigger on foot sweeps, so he has a

877
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: lot more takedowns from the sort of a standing ish,

878
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: kind of more Judo inspired position. I think he goes

879
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: for a little bit more passing on top. He's not

880
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: quite as ground and pound intensive, but he's very good

881
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: on control positions. I don't know that he's as strong,

882
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: but he's a little bit lankier than Habib, which I

883
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: think gives him access to different kinds of submissions from

884
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: different positions. So you know, there's a lot of similarities.

885
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: But I don't think he has the same kind of

886
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: torrential ground and pound that Habib does. I don't think

887
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: he's quite a strong, but I think he's got a

888
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: bit of a different body type and I think he

889
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: is better in certain places of standing in terms of

890
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: grappling contexts than Habibi. Also, I think has slightly crisp

891
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: stand up overall as well as kickboxing. To me, he

892
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: looks a little bit better than the sort of mechanical

893
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: style of.

894
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: Habib's Makachev eight and one Since his UFC debut in

895
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, but he's won seven in a row, including

896
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: that submission of Drew Dover. He's been on fire. Look,

897
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: I need a I'm ready to be a star now

898
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 3: performance out of him, and then, you know, and we've

899
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: talked about in the matchmaking here, you can argue that

900
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: they've set him up to do that, even though this

901
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: is a tough fight, but not maybe not tough enough

902
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: Luke uh. From that standpoint, you know, this could be

903
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: a big one marketing wise for him to be taking

904
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: it very seriously.

905
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: You see, I'll say there's one thing to add. It's

906
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, oh, he's the next Habibe. Well, you

907
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: know what's I don't think that he is. Habib's like

908
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: a pretty special guy to me. But I do think

909
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: he's very talented. I do think he can go really far.

910
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: He might even be champion. I don't think that's crazy,

911
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: but it's kind of funny here as we see is

912
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: if he gets a win. While I do think it

913
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: is unfair that people are calling him the next to Beebe,

914
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: it's unfair to him. The reality is if he goes

915
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: out there and has a monster win a win, that

916
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: that marketing is like the next coming of Abbe. Whether

917
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: it's true or fair or not, it would work in

918
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: his favor with a big win and could really boost

919
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: his fortunes.

920
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: I was going to counter you and say it almost

921
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if his style isn't the exact same or again,

922
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: nobody's the next Abibe. This was a special, all time

923
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: great guy who let's really be honest. You know, you

924
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 3: could make that hipster debate. That is the greatest fighter

925
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 3: we've ever seen in the cage. He was that dominant.

926
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: Even if he didn't get a chance to fight everyone

927
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: you would have wanted them to due to injuries or

928
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: bad luck. But Luke, coming in, our friends at William

929
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: Hill have Makachev minus six point fifty as the favorite,

930
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: plus four seven to five for Thiago Moysis. So it

931
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: shows you what the public expects to happen. But you

932
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: got to prove that five rounds. We'll see Saturday night, Luke.

933
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: You know my interest is centered upon the comeback of

934
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: the great Misha Tate. Don't call her takedown Tate. Luke,

935
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you can call her cupcake anymore.

936
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: We'll see what she comes in as. But we have

937
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: not seen Misha Tate since what UFC two to five

938
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: against Raquel Pennington when she retired following that defeat in

939
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: two thousand and and what sixteen, Luke, that's a long

940
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: ass time ago. Misha's back against forty two year old

941
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: Marion Renault very close on the William Hill odds here

942
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: minus one thirty Tait your favorite Renault plus one ten, Luke.

943
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: We know what Tate brings. Great wrestler, scrappy as all. Heck,

944
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: never out of a fight till it's over. Do you

945
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: think we'll see the Misha of old or or an

946
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: old Misha? How do you sort of handicap based on

947
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: you know, she's in great shape, she's saying all the

948
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: right things in the interviews, She's one tough mama. Literally,

949
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: what are your expectations for the Misha we see comes

950
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: Sara Night?

951
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: I think listen, I think anybody who says, oh, here's

952
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: how she's gonna look, who you know is not in

953
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: the extreme couture camp as obviously they would know they're

954
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: not telling you the truth. They don't know they don't know.

955
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: My guess is BC. When I think about the end

956
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: of her career, at least what we thought was the

957
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: end of her career back around the time of finding

958
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: Raquel Pennington, I remember when she retired, it was like,

959
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: wait a second, you're still young, Misha, and two fights

960
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: ago you were the champion and now you're out. It

961
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: did feel premature, but you know how it goes. It's like,

962
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: when you're ready, you're ready, and everyone's timeline is going

963
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: to be different. And she stayed in the industry and

964
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: went to work for one championship and she's like, Okay, well,

965
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that was just her path. But you know,

966
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: having looked back, obviously she came back. There was still

967
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: something left to prove. Her exit was kind of premature.

968
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I've not talked to anyone in extreme couture about this fight,

969
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: so I don't know how she's gonna look. My hunches BC.

970
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna look a little rusty, to be sure,

971
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: and her overall numbers in her career show that she's

972
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: not a dominant force in the sense of every time

973
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: she goes for a takedown she gets it. She's dominant

974
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: in the sense of attrition, Like over the course of time,

975
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: she's able to get her will imposed, but it takes

976
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: labor to get there. I think you're gonna see that.

977
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: I think Renault has been on an epic decline. But

978
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: how old is Mary Renaul? Mary Renault was born in

979
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven.

980
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: B say, let me dead wrong myself. Look, she's actually

981
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: forty four and she's entering on a four fight losing skid,

982
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: all by decision, and she's gonna retire.

983
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: Win or lose here, right right, So this is my point.

984
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: It's like, this is actually a pretty good comeback fight

985
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: for me. She take too. The UFC does not do again.

986
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: This is not a true tune up. But true tune

987
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: up is when you get pro versus like a club

988
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: level fighter. Okay, that's not Marion Renault fair enough, but

989
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: in the sense of you're getting someone who's literally on

990
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: their way out. Literally this is their last fight forty

991
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: four years of age, four fight losing streak, has some

992
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: well rounded abilities, But if you are who you used

993
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: to be in any kind of you know, serious way,

994
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: it's a hill you can climb. So I'm expecting a

995
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: decision win with a couple of you know, hiccups along

996
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: the way, but I think in the end something you

997
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: could build off of, and I think that's what she's

998
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: trying to do, not be champion in the first fight,

999
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: have a landing place upon which to then climb to

1000
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: further heights.

1001
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is the right opponent. I do agree

1002
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: that we should temper our expectations. She's not gonna probably

1003
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: come out there and get a dominant finish in the

1004
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: first four minutes. But I don't want to see her

1005
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: calling out Amanda Nonas afterwards though, either, you know. I mean,

1006
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 3: if she wants to call Kaway to get that ATV

1007
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: back and use the microphont space in that, that's perfectly

1008
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: fine with me, Luke. But she did say publicly this

1009
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: week that she's hoping that Juliana Pinna defeats a man nest,

1010
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: maybe looking to get opportunistic there to sneak in and

1011
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: try to win that title. We both know, Luke that

1012
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: as long as she wins and as long as she

1013
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: doesn't look golfle, she's gonna get a big fight. It's

1014
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see how big that is. You know,

1015
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: would she go right to the top. We know pain

1016
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: is up next for New Nest, Luke, would you say

1017
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: that there is a fighter who's like next in line, Like,

1018
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: you know, Irene al Dano just had a hell of

1019
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: a good win against Kunitskaya despite missing Wait where we're like,

1020
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: you know, maybe she's a sneaky challenger there, we've both

1021
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 3: We've got GDR and Holly Holmes still lingering, still wanting

1022
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: rematches for the title. I mean, is it possible that

1023
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: Tate could win here and go right to the top?

1024
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 3: Is it possible, Luke.

1025
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'm expecting. I have modest expectations, which

1026
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I think is fair to all the parties involved. I

1027
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: still think Tate will win. What I will say is

1028
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: if Tate does this bit where when Dominic Kruz came

1029
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: back from that long injury and just absolutely smoked to

1030
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Kaya Mizagaki, remember that you were like, whoa, he looked awesome.

1031
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: I think she has one of those. Absolutely anything as possible.

1032
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how likely something like that is.

1033
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 3: Aspin lad at number three. Luke will be back next

1034
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 3: week's card, the San Haagen Dyla Shaw card. She's coming

1035
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: off of a lengthy injury and surgery and recovery but

1036
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 3: she's also in that bantam weight mix again in terms

1037
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: of people that aren't directly coming off of a loss.

1038
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 3: So it will be interesting. Luca. Look, I'm cheering for Tape.

1039
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm cheering for she has a big name. She's always

1040
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: been great in terms of being a personality and you know,

1041
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: a brand in the sport. You've done radio work with

1042
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: her in the past. Luke, you got nothing bad to

1043
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: say about her?

1044
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: I know you don't know. She's great, she's a pro.

1045
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, respect the brand, Luke. Okay, shout out to that,

1046
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: all right, Luke, very important fight here for one. Jeremy

1047
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 3: Stevens also on this main card, a lightweight bout at

1048
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: thirty five. Luke, Oh, how the tables turned quickly in

1049
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: this game. It was just three years ago that Jeremy

1050
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: Stevens won three in a row, including beating Josh Emmett,

1051
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: and we were talking about this late career resurgence quasi

1052
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: title content. Unfortunately for the little heathen, he is er

1053
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: in four with one note contest in his last five cents.

1054
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: That fight he's going in there against mathuse Gamra who Luke,

1055
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't know a damn thing about

1056
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: all the Fight week stories being written from Stevens interviews

1057
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: involved how he's in the best shape of his career,

1058
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: he's revived all that stuff. What are your expectations here

1059
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: for I'll say, beloved banger. I always loved me some

1060
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: Jeremy Stevens. Luke, you know what, he's there. He's that

1061
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: guy that enters your keg party. He's not gonna pay

1062
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: the cover charge. He's going right for the keg. He's

1063
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: probably gonna try to steal your girl, and you just

1064
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: got to deal with it, lukecause he's got heavy hands. Okay,

1065
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: that's who that guy is.

1066
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a bit of a you know,

1067
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't know there's a grand narrative

1068
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: to this. I think partly it's the guys who are

1069
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: available they owed fights to. Partly it's a bit of like,

1070
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: let's see what we really have in Gamrot and let's

1071
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: see what sort of left of Stevens given his lengthy

1072
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: career at this point. But I don't read much more

1073
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: to in that should be a good fight. I mean,

1074
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: these two guys are actually throw down, But I don't

1075
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: know there's like a big.

1076
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: Scam Rocks from Pole and Luke thirty years old, eighteen

1077
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: and one record. He's nicknamed the Gamer, the Gamer Gamrot Luke.

1078
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: He's good. He's a good fighter, all right.

1079
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: His only defeat a split decision loss in his UFC

1080
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 3: debut two fights back to Gurham. Long name that begins

1081
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: with k kutladze, Luke, did I get that? Who cares?

1082
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: I mean at this point besides his family and probably

1083
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 3: the people of his nation. Who cares? Right?

1084
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: Right?

1085
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: Is that insensitive?

1086
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: All right?

1087
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: Luke? As we look up and down this card, I

1088
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: have to tell you I'm fired up. Friend of the program.

1089
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: Billy Q Billy corn Tillo is back in a featherweight

1090
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: bout against Gabriel Benitez, which fight is of note to

1091
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: you as you look up and down this card that's

1092
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: catching your fancy.

1093
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't love this card as much as you, but

1094
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: I guess the return of judelpo Vieira is always worth

1095
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: paying attention to. We'd love to see how he looks.

1096
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: Remember he had that brutal last fight and he had

1097
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: a messed up eye as a consequence. And also Khalid

1098
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: Taha shouts to Beyroot Lebanon, although I think he's out

1099
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: of Germany now, but Lebanese fighter. You know, I'm always

1100
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna cheer those folks.

1101
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: So there you go, Luke, do you consider Daniel Rodriguez

1102
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: must see he'd he bangs bro.

1103
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: Yes, he does. He's actually quite good that he's He's

1104
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: always worth paying attention to.

1105
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: He'll be taking on Preston Parsons in the years.

1106
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: Her last name is Rabbit. That's interesting. She has the

1107
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: neck tats. She's got all the horror tats. B See,

1108
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: what do you think about those?

1109
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: I have not seen necktats on a female fighter like that.

1110
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: Have you had?

1111
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: And they're long too, Like they're from like here down

1112
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: to like the collar bone. They're huge.

1113
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: Imagine imagine if if you know, Austin Vanderford became single.

1114
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, he's got the eye on his throat. I'll

1115
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: say this about the throat tattoos. I don't think that

1116
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: on the women. I don't think that like I can

1117
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: take or leave him. It depends on the person in

1118
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: the tat, like anything else. But it's the people who

1119
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: there's a whole subgenre, BC. You don't know this, people

1120
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: who got like all into tattoos, and all of the

1121
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: tattoos are like horror related, like one of that that

1122
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: dude who came to like last Friday show, but she's all.

1123
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: Over Damien from Stockton, California, who I love. By the way,

1124
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: you could tell he's a sweet guy. He said, I

1125
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: motivated him to get the three needles. Look, I don't

1126
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 3: want to do a gang hand side. There's a hand

1127
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: sign I did that people are upset about. I don't

1128
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: want to do any bad hand side three needles bro.

1129
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: But yet, Luke, he does have the scariest tattoos in

1130
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: North America. There's no question, Luke.

1131
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: You should see her tattoos look pretty scary.

1132
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: All right, All right there it is, all right. Look,

1133
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 3: let's carry on here. Luke rock Hold in the news,

1134
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: the former UFC middleweight champion. Here's a direct quote. He

1135
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: wants a big fight and he's not getting one. So

1136
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 3: he says, give me the fucking dance partner to prove

1137
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: that or not whatever, I don't care. I'm going to

1138
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: go there and I'm going to do what I do.

1139
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: Let me prove myself right and let people try to

1140
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: prove me fucking wrong. But someone's got to step up

1141
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 3: and fucking do it. But I ain't gonna take anything

1142
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: that doesn't excite me. I'm not just gonna step up

1143
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: and fight somebody that doesn't excite me or doesn't excite

1144
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 3: my fans. There's no point I've been doing that. I've

1145
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: been a Strike Force champ, I've been UFC World Champ.

1146
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: I don't need to come back and fight some bum

1147
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't fucking get me excited. I'd rather just not

1148
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: come back. If you want to fight me, give me

1149
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: something that excites me, brother, give me something that excites

1150
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: my fans, my people, and all of us. Otherwise, fuck

1151
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: off and let me go, because I ain't gonna do that.

1152
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: End quote Luke Rocold Luke, I'd love to see what

1153
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: excites that guy. If you're if you know what I'm

1154
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: talking about, right, No, I don't know.

1155
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I do what I'm gonna say. I don't.

1156
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, Luke, does he have a We've been

1157
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: in this debate before that UFC doesn't always know how

1158
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: to promote their aging ex champions who still have a

1159
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: big name. They put them in there as fodder for

1160
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 3: the next guys coming up, and you can argue that's

1161
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: typical promotional strategy. Some guys like Anderson Silva, I thought

1162
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: that was disrespectful. Does Luke Rocold have a point here?

1163
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: If you're not gonna give me something big or fun,

1164
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: then let me the frick go get me out of here.

1165
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: I can go. I can take my twilight elsewhere, right.

1166
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't begrudge him the view that he doesn't

1167
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: want to fight any old fighter. I think if you've

1168
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: done what he's done, you've been a weight class champion

1169
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: in strike Force and in UFC, you know that's not

1170
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: something you necessarily want to do. I totally get that.

1171
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: I also just sort of understand beyond what his his

1172
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: his preferences are just where the market is. I don't

1173
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: think the market on you know, is there a ton

1174
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: of demand for Luke Rockhole to be in these enormous

1175
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: bouts of about of consequence? But like it's hard to

1176
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: know exactly what he wants and who he thinks would

1177
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: be a suitable opponent and who wouldn't be, So we're

1178
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of weighing in on that. But I'll just say this, like,

1179
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, is there a ton of demand to have

1180
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: him back? I'd be happy to welcoming back. I certainly

1181
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: I would enjoy seeing it. I don't know that I

1182
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: see a ton of demand out there. I think the

1183
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: UFC probably recognizes that as well, and they just want

1184
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: to see what they've gotten him. I completely get his

1185
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: perspective that I'm not into this to do that anymore.

1186
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: I've did all that. I'm older in that now, fair enough.

1187
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: But as long as there's an impass, only one side

1188
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: of that equation can win, and that's the UFC side.

1189
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he's basically saying, I don't want to climb

1190
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: any ladders. You know, we've heard him say I think

1191
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: I could be a great kryptonite to you know, Attasania

1192
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: or John Jones. I mean he said both of those

1193
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: in the past. He's not gonna get either of those fights,

1194
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: Luke without earning it. Now, would he get a quicker path.

1195
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: Let's say he wanted to buckle down and get back

1196
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: in the middleweight title picture, he'd get a quicker path

1197
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: than most because of his brand. But Luke, he's got

1198
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: a lot going against him. And it's not just having

1199
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: lost three or four all by knockout, but it's the

1200
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: fact that he turns thirty seven in October. So you

1201
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: know what his statement to me is really saying, if

1202
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: you don't have some like big time curiosity fight against

1203
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 3: another old name for me, or you don't have basically

1204
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: a title shot for me, like let me go to

1205
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: Belatore or let me go somewhere like I mean, look, look,

1206
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 3: I say Belatour because it would make the most sense.

1207
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: They have a lot of these light heavyweight ish you know,

1208
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: to a middle weight ish names lingering meaning you know,

1209
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 3: you could put him in there and the light heavyweight

1210
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: World Grand Prix right and it would be it would

1211
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: be a foot and it would be interesting. I'd love

1212
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: to see him against Romero. Heck, I love to see

1213
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: him against Anderson Silva. Luke, you know all that shit.

1214
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: But Anthony Johnson, he's still under contracts, So Luke, I

1215
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: almost wish when fighters get to this point because think

1216
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: about it, it's expensive for UFC to promote aging fighters

1217
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: who like no longer have it on the same level.

1218
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: Do you remember that contract that over him had, Luke. Now,

1219
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: I know he lingered at a pretty high level for

1220
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: a long time, but he made like stupid money every

1221
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: time out like five hundred thousand, like more than main inventors.

1222
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: So since it's not always cost effective for them, and

1223
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 3: if the aging star in question doesn't want to be fodder.

1224
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: Shouldn't there be some kind of understanding where they can

1225
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: both just part ways? Luke, am I not understanding how

1226
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: contracts and possession work. I mean, if they don't want

1227
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: to be there and the promotion doesn't want to give

1228
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 3: them what they want, can't we just say goodbye?

1229
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: And also like, no, I'm asking you that question.

1230
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm asking you a question.

1231
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm answering it. I'm answering about also adding

1232
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: on to that, and would the promotion really suffer without

1233
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: the services of Luke Rockold. They've been without the services

1234
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: of Luke Rockold the last however long. It doesn't say

1235
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: he has no value. It's just to say that he

1236
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: could bring a lot more value to something at someone

1237
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: else and it wouldn't really hurt the UFC's bottom line.

1238
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: These are case by case things that I don't really

1239
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: know how you solve it, but I agree with you.

1240
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: It's like dudef Luke Rockold got let go. He could

1241
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: be a great signing for PFL. He could be a

1242
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: great signing for Bellots or there's a lot of couple.

1243
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: I think more than if you, he could do some

1244
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: boxing too, who knows, you know, potentially anyway. So there's

1245
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways he could go, and I

1246
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: agree if the UFC is not going to give him

1247
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: so that's more in line with his vision. Scott Cooker,

1248
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: who used to work with him, I'm sure we'd be

1249
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: more than happy to.

1250
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he's been tearing it up on

1251
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, grind Her or Tinder or whatever, Luke, but

1252
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, I want to see him back in the

1253
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 3: cage at the end of the day.

1254
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: All right.

1255
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 3: Look, he's probably a big jerk, like we probably think,

1256
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: like all Luke Rockhold's cool bro, he'd hang out with us,

1257
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: We can crack jokes. He's probably like the worst. He's

1258
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: probably the worst hang you know.

1259
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: You say that and I said before this was like

1260
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: six years ago. He's a little bit of different guy then, maybe,

1261
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: But I hung out with him, as a strong word.

1262
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: I spent about an hour or two chatting him up

1263
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: at the bar for the m m A Awards, and uh,

1264
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: he was actually great. He was actually very friendly and

1265
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: very funny. He doesn't come off that way necessarily on

1266
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: social media these days, but at the time I enjoyed

1267
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: hanging out with him.

1268
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: Sure or false? Do you believe he would flirt with

1269
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: your wife in front of you. Uh oh he would, Yo,

1270
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: he fucking would. Bro there's no question. Just to show

1271
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: you what time it is, Luke Thomas, just to let

1272
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: you remember the name.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, he may.

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Speaker 3: Even you know, go as far as an indecent proposal option.

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Speaker 1: It could be in play, Luke, Okay, can we move

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Speaker 1: to the next topic and.

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Speaker 3: You guys have Wow. I just wanted to see how

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Speaker 3: how uncomfortable you would get there, Luke. That's interesting, all right, Luke?

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Bellotour tonight on Showtime nine pm Eastern is

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Speaker 3: the main the under look where are the undercard? Stream

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Speaker 3: at YouTube YouTube? All right? On the Beltour and Showtime

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Speaker 3: YouTube channels, it's Belcher two sixty two and look card

1283
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: you know, kill her up and down? Not really sure?

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Speaker 3: Really good main event though, Women's Flyway title on the line,

1285
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: as Juliana Velasquez of Brazil, fresh off winning that one

1286
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: twenty five belt and a five round decision over very

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Speaker 3: decorated in defending champion Alie Malay McFarland going in there,

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Speaker 3: Luke against a very interesting out and former Kickboxing World

1289
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: champion both with Glory and Bellatour, Denise Keelholtz, who's coming

1290
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: in on the four fight win streak, all four via stoppage,

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Speaker 3: including two vious submission, which was a bit surprising in

1292
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: the moment, Luke, the big narrative for key Holts coming

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Speaker 3: in is, you know, she's sort of figured out now,

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Speaker 3: she got a passed in judo, a past in kickboxing,

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Speaker 3: She's sort of figuring out how to be a mixed

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Speaker 3: martial artist and it's working well for her styles wise.

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Speaker 3: What can we expect in this matchup against the newly

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Speaker 3: crowned champ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, both have a background in judo, and if you

1300
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: noticed anything about Rowsih and Kayla Harrison's style, Kaylee a

1301
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: little bit less so these days, but you know, Rawsie

1302
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: was like get rights to work, and certainly I think

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Speaker 1: Keil Holts brought a lot of that, both from judo

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Speaker 1: and her competitive kickboxing career. To me, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: Velaskeez is the more well rounded of the two. I

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: think both are going to be good and strong in

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01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: the clinch. I'd say keil Holtz is a little bit quicker,

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01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more explosive, uh, the more sophisticated striker

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Speaker 1: of the two. But I'll say this about Velaskaz again,

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01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: I think she's overall more well rounded in MMA. She's

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: beaten better fighters, and I'd also say that she's a

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Speaker 1: really devastating puncher. She and striker generally, but she's when

1313
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Speaker 1: she lands on folks. She doesn't necessarily have the one

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Speaker 1: hit or quitter, but she has the kind of punch

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Speaker 1: that alters the judgment going forward of the opponent, whether

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01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: they're much more reserved and much less likely to do

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01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: anything else. So I think you might see is how

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01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: does that play out the speed and explosion. Maybe somebody

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01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: the combination work of Keill Holts against a little bit

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Speaker 1: more patient, but when it lands, it lands with more authority.

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Speaker 1: In Velasquez, you did see an arm bar there. I

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01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: also think that Velaskiz can probably go longer and maintain

1323
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: more competitive poise in mixed martial arts. And what I

1324
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Speaker 1: really want to be is BC is about the grappling takedowns.

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Speaker 1: Who can get on top, who can get the back?

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Speaker 1: Both have good takedowns obviously from judea A though certain

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01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: kinds kill Holts a little bit more head tossed. I

1328
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: think a little bit more wrestling from Velasquez, But on

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01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: the mat, who could get on top, and then maintain

1330
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Speaker 1: top position while avoiding submission threats. I think Velasquez has

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Speaker 1: a real path to victory that particular way, So kill Holtz.

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Speaker 1: Dynamic athlete, no doubt about it, experienced competitor, a lot

1333
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Speaker 1: of the same strengths, But I think she has a

1334
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Speaker 1: few more weaknesses than Velasquez in mixed martial arts. But

1335
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Speaker 1: how they match up. I'll say this. You know, I'll

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Speaker 1: give belt or praise when it's due and I want

1337
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Speaker 1: one and they're not. This is a good fight. I

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01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: like this. I'm excited about what happens in this main event.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to find out if Juliana Velaskaz is

1340
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 3: like as you know, dominant into as she was against McFarlane.

1341
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Speaker 3: What I mean is when when the script is in

1342
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: Velasquez's direction, when she can control distance and fight on

1343
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: the outside and come in and out with that accurate

1344
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: left cross. Look, I mean, she's dynamic, she's accurate, she's powerful.

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01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: She's put a lot of you know, lesser opponents away

1346
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: on the ladder up just by standing that range and

1347
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: taking them the hell out of there. But yet, if

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01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: you look closely at the tape, you know she's competent

1349
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: on the ground, but I don't think her takedown defense

1350
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: is all that elite, and I think that can be

1351
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: a potential opening for ke Holts, who doesn't, you know,

1352
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: do the the aggressive wrestling double leg, but certainly can

1353
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: take people down with judo trips and is very comfortable

1354
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: in the clinch. She's the smaller fighter Keel Holtz. She's

1355
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: certainly gonna have to land some shots to get some

1356
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 3: respect early, but I think the more chaos she can

1357
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: create U that's gonna, you know, increase her chances here

1358
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: of trying to get this to the ground, trying to

1359
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: work her submission game because you just can't stand on

1360
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: the outside of Velasquez's left hand. Is gonna be a

1361
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: long night for you, and she's punishing with that. It's

1362
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: a very good striker, so it's gonna be interesting, definitely

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Speaker 3: a good main event, Luke, that comin event is gonna

1364
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: be a heavyweight banger. When Tyroll Fortune just one loss

1365
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: under the belltour banner. That was a knockout loss to

1366
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Speaker 3: Timothy Johnson looking to climb the ladder taking on a

1367
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Speaker 3: guy I love mea heead Matt Mittrion. Only there's just

1368
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 3: forty three year old Matt Mitrione, who's uh what is he?

1369
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: Something like oh and four with a no contest in

1370
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Speaker 3: his last five Luke, I don't know if you caught

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Speaker 3: the Bellotour Media Day like.

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Speaker 1: Interview, he got sideways with a reporter.

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yo, some guy named Kevin got loaded up and

1374
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: he's like, yo, Metreon, what's up? You're owing five lately?

1375
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: And you know Mittreon just gave it to him.

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: Luke, Well, the question sucked. He was like, you're oh

1377
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: and five in your last two fights. I'm like, okay,

1378
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna roll to a guy that's your a.

1379
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Your first question is, hey, why are you losing? Okay,

1380
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: you know listen, you called down the thunder. Don't be surprised.

1381
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: We need to get what you get. But okay, to

1382
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: your point, he does. He didn't like the Atlantic questioning

1383
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: why would you you know I can understand that. Yeah,

1384
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: I'll say this man thirty one versus however old? How's

1385
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: mitre on forty three.

1386
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: Forty three forty three?

1387
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, man, if there's any division that's accommodating of age,

1388
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: you know this just as well as I do. In

1389
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts. It's heavyweight. So certainly you can understand

1390
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: guys can be late thirties sometimes early forties and do well.

1391
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: But even then, forty three is a little bit older

1392
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: than what you know. You can you can you can

1393
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: see forty forty one, sometimes forty two. Forty three is

1394
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: when you're starting to edge into that territory where there's

1395
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: not a lot that's left for you at that point.

1396
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: I think Tyrroll Fortune has developed pretty well for the

1397
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: most part. But you know, he is athletic, he does

1398
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: hit hard. He's thirty one years of age, and you know,

1399
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: both of these guys have losses to Timothy Johnson, so

1400
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: they've got some work to do. But you know, at

1401
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: thirty one years of age, Fortune's got a lot more

1402
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,959
Speaker 1: time to get there. I mean to be a thirty

1403
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: one at a headway BC. That's frankly, you got plenty

1404
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: of time to get better if you can stay healthy

1405
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: and avoid a lot of damage. I just like, I

1406
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: think here's a reality about Mitrion Man. I like my

1407
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Matriid a lot. I ran into him one time in

1408
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: a Vegas airport and we had a long conversation and

1409
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: he was as friendly as could be. I really enjoy him,

1410
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: and I think he's taken his career a lot further

1411
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: than a lot of people in his position ordinarily wouldn't

1412
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: have been able to. He got some big wins when he

1413
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: needed them, he got better when he need them. He

1414
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: was good at media. He went to Beltore at the

1415
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: right time. He played his he played the hand that

1416
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: he was dealt very very well. But like all things,

1417
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: they begin to come to an end. I don't know

1418
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: that he can't win this. I think that he probably could,

1419
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think. I don't think the

1420
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Speaker 1: end of high level fighting is too far from him.

1421
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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, He's gonna have to kind

1422
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: of make this a war because you know, Fortune's got

1423
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: his advantage on the ground, and even if they if

1424
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: they go to war on the feet, Fortune's a becoming

1425
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: a big puncher. I think he's got title, you know,

1426
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 3: shots on the beltroal level in his future. Meaning of fortune,

1427
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: He's he's shown us some good stuff. Seems to have

1428
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 3: rebounded well from that loss to Johnson. But I love

1429
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: Manatum because always been a fun interview, great storyteller. You know,

1430
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: Luk he was a teammate and Drew brees at Purdue

1431
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: there before going to the NFL. There.

1432
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: Listen, he marches to the beat of his own drum.

1433
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: He is who he is. He understands that I think.

1434
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: I think Madatrion is a great guy. It's just forty

1435
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: three and the competitive streak he's been on it adds

1436
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: up to some worrisome factors about how long he can

1437
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, the closed look on the news cycle this week.

1439
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: We've got a date Tyson Fury Deontay Wilder Part three

1440
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: was supposed to, of course, be next Saturday, July twenty fourth. Unfortunately,

1441
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury, who got one dose of the vaccine, did

1442
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: not go back for the second, reportedly caught COVID, as

1443
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: did up to ten people in his extended team and

1444
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: sparring partners. So, Luke, we have an official date now,

1445
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: reported by ESPN's Mike Coppinger October ninth, and confirmed by

1446
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: Top Rank at Team Mobile Arena in Vegas. So you know,

1447
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 3: good news that we got a date. It's going to

1448
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: be a big event. I hope you and I are

1449
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: going to be there. I hope we can do another

1450
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, I'd love to have a desk that I

1451
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 3: love to do some big shit, do another live show,

1452
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: all that good stuff. But Luke, the same day that

1453
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: this was announced, did you see this picture that's floating

1454
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: around now to be I don't know what date this

1455
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: was taken, but it was put up yesterday, min each

1456
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Can you show this Fury the champ who supposedly has

1457
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: COVID ran into this local bloke in the Las Vegas casino.

1458
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: He's got the open shirt and the white pants. Luke,

1459
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: he's ready for a good time out. I bring this up, Luke,

1460
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: because this is boxing, so bullshit happens. And when Tayo

1461
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: Fimo Lopez had COVID and pulled out of his trailer fight,

1462
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: there was a lot of talk from people about was

1463
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: that more to do with lack of ticket sales. I've

1464
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: heard the same rumblings here. Were they not moving tickets

1465
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 3: for this Fury Wilder one like they wanted to? Are

1466
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: they hoping that the travel ban will be lifted and

1467
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 3: all of England can come in October? I don't know, Luke.

1468
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it for sure, but uh, that's potentially

1469
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: damning evidence.

1470
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: No, doesn't look good. Doesn't look good. And then the

1471
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Speaker 1: ticket sales, you know, as you indicated for Fury Wilder three,

1472
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: where report from the Sports Business Journal reportedly horror and

1473
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: you had said something we had talked about this previously,

1474
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: like where's Wilder to complain? He hasn't, you know.

1475
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about it all.

1476
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about the guy who complains about everything. Uh

1477
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: he didn't, ye as is that a peep? That's unusual

1478
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: for him? You know.

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Speaker 3: So if that's the case, it's like, what do we want? Well,

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: we want transparency and honesty, right, But you know, like.

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: I honestly like if they came out and be like, listen,

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: we're just gonna put this in October because we want

1483
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: the British fight fans to be there, and we regret

1484
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: you jumping the gun on this. You know, I can understand.

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01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean, the fight was made in haste after the

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: after the Court of Arbitration ruled in favor of essentially

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder, so they put it together pretty quickly, which

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01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: is great. But at the same time, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they're using COVID as

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: a cover. Maybe maybe not. You know, you need a

1491
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: lot of evidence or something to make those claims. It

1492
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: does look a little dubious. But if they're still going

1493
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: to fight and we have a chance of going I

1494
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: guess selfishly I would say yay for October.

1495
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 3: No like you know, joking or not even joking to

1496
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: speculation aside. His fight's massive, you know, even if it's

1497
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 3: not the fight we kind of wanted now, which was

1498
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: Fury Joshua for all the belts. I think this is

1499
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: very very interesting narrative with an angry while they're coming back,

1500
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 3: new trainer, a lot of time off. I mean, look

1501
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: when he lost to Fury in the rematch that was

1502
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: pre COVID in twenty twenty, at that point we were like, Okay,

1503
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 3: you're going to do the third fight because it's contractually obligated.

1504
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 3: But man, that's going to look exactly the same, you know,

1505
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: four or five months from now, dude, Now we're going

1506
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: to be like a year and a half after that.

1507
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: So Wilder Luke for a man who had many excuses

1508
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 3: after the second fight, he's going to be in a position,

1509
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 3: a position we want him to be in where there's

1510
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: gonna be no excuses. Well, I've had a year and

1511
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: a half to completely reform whatever he can, you know,

1512
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: in his game and his mentality and his preparation for

1513
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: this fight. I'm excited. I'm excited about Usik Joshua, which

1514
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: I think they're aiming for September, So let's do it.

1515
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 3: Heavyweight boxing is big. It matters. Also, Luca, a little

1516
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: note came to me that for Pacchio Spence, which is

1517
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: August twenty first, that's the opening line came out and

1518
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,879
Speaker 3: it was spent and says a four to one favorite,

1519
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: and so much money's coming in on Manny that it's

1520
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 3: already down to two to one favorite. Where do you

1521
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 3: sort of stand where a month out from that, like

1522
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 3: is this a bad idea for Pakiow or like the

1523
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 3: Therman fight, is he gonna go in there and surprise

1524
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: us and either win or be super competitive and make this,

1525
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 3: you know, the thriller that it has the potential to be,

1526
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 3: even though Manny's what forty two and hasn't fought two years.

1527
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: Bro, I don't know. I tend to think he'll make

1528
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: it competitive.

1529
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1530
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't buy any of that. I don't think he'll win.

1531
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: I think Spence is too good. But you know, late

1532
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: chapter pakiaw has been all full of surprises. I don't

1533
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: know why that would stop now.

1534
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, really full of surprises both ways. The performance against

1535
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 3: Horn came at a time where you know, he was

1536
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: busy in the Senate, and I don't think he really

1537
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: really uh trained and prepared on a level he needed

1538
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: to for that ex school teacher who walked him down, Luke,

1539
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, whatever, that's boxing. That's it for the week, Lucas.

1540
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 3: Speaking of winners, you love us, right people Morning Combat.

1541
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: You want to see us winners. Well, we are finalists

1542
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 3: in the Sports category of the People's Choice Podcast Awards. Luke.

1543
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 3: I don't know how we got there, but I'm happy

1544
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 3: to be there. Our bosses are hoping we win it.

1545
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: So hey, how about this. We appreciate all what our

1546
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: listeners do for us. We hope they enjoy our show

1547
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: enough to nominate us to advance to the final round. So,

1548
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: as you can see on the screen there, go to

1549
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: Podcast Awards dot Com, slash app, slash sign up, toggle

1550
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: down to the Sports category. We've included a link to

1551
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 3: the at the top of our episode description on YouTube

1552
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: as well, if you want to click it right there. Luke,

1553
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 3: you do have to like sign up. You don't have

1554
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 3: to give your credit card. You don't you know there's

1555
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: no like you know, you can't pay for your you

1556
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: know bill this weekend, so sign up here. We're not

1557
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: doing that right now for you, but uh but you

1558
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: know it'll take you a second and you can support

1559
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 3: this show moving forward, so it costs you nothing.

1560
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1561
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 3: What do we win if we win, Luke?

1562
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: What do we win?

1563
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: We win nothing, but we win respect, Okay, and that's

1564
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 3: what I'm in this game for at the end of

1565
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: the day.

1566
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: Rue Well that money, right, mostly money?

1567
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you greedy bastard, Luke. We don't always get it

1568
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 3: right in our intentions or the things we say into

1569
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: a microphone over twelve plus hours of live shows per week.

1570
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 3: So luckily we have a segment where our listeners reach

1571
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: out and tell us what we said wrong, and we

1572
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 3: will sit spread eagle on that l It's called.

1573
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: Dead Wrong, Dead Wrong.

1574
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: The email address in question is Morning Combat at gmail

1575
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 3: dot com for your Wednesday fan submissions for your dead

1576
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 3: Wrong for whatever you got here Number one, Luke. Let's

1577
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 3: talk Baseball strikeouts from Greg and Michael. They say Luke

1578
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: U NBC were Dead Wrong during Dead Wrong. On July second,

1579
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 3: at the one hour and twelve minute mark of episode one,

1580
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 3: seventy five when Luke said, it always gets weird at

1581
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: the ballpark when the pitcher gets the third K and

1582
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: they have to put it backwards. BC agreed with you, Yeah,

1583
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: this is weird. It's clear neither of your fathers loved

1584
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 3: you enough to teach you how to fill out a

1585
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 3: score book in baseball when you were a child. That

1586
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: might be true for Luke. By the way, per MLB

1587
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: scoring rules, in the scorebook, a strikeout is is denoted

1588
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: by the letter K. A third strike call on which

1589
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: the batter doesn't swing is denoted. Is that the word

1590
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: I'm in questionnaire noted denoted with a backward K. Now, Luke,

1591
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: this is an l that I'll I'll take And in fact, Luke,

1592
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: if you don't know my past, but I was a very.

1593
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. How did we get it wrong?

1594
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: What did we say that was wrong?

1595
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: We were talking about somebody's initials and I was like,

1596
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: at least their initials aren't KKK. You know, that'd be horrible.

1597
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 3: And you were like, yeah, you ever go to a

1598
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: baseball game and they have.

1599
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: To what I'm talking about, dude in the outfield in

1600
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: the stadiums. I don't know if they do it anymore.

1601
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: When we were a kid, they were manually changed the

1602
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: scoreboard and they would keep a tally of the strikeouts,

1603
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: and so when they got the first strikeout, you'd see

1604
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 1: one K, then they got a second strike out to

1605
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: be on the K next to it, and then when

1606
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: they got the third, rather than having the three ks,

1607
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: it'd be forward, forward, then backward, and then they would

1608
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: keep it backward even if there was a fourth or

1609
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: fifth K along the way.

1610
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe you have seen that done to avoid a

1611
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 3: KKK for for.

1612
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, Atlanta Pulton County Stadium. I've definitely seen that

1613
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 1: multiple times.

1614
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: Okay, But what this guy is saying, which is true,

1615
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: that when you're scoring, and I've done a shit ton

1616
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: of scoring baseball as a kid at ballparks and also Luke,

1617
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: I was my high school baseball team.

1618
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: Score ky, what he's saying is if you strike out looking,

1619
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: it's a K backward.

1620
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: It's a backward K in that that you know, because

1621
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 3: that's like a little footnote in there that you caught

1622
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: somebody looking. So you know, I've been to it. You know,

1623
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: I've been to Mets games a kid. When when when

1624
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 3: you know Doc Gooden doctor k was pitching and they

1625
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 3: people would hang the giant case. You know, I actually

1626
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: went to a I saw, Luke, I saw even well.

1627
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: To your insult at the beginning of this whole question,

1628
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: like my dad or my parents, do you think for

1629
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: two seconds they ever showed me how to play any sport,

1630
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: any sport to any extent that I know. It is

1631
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: entirely either self taught or through a camp or through whatever.

1632
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 1: But like you think there was moments in the backyard

1633
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: where like, this is a baseball this is accounts asn't

1634
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: out never happened, dude, never.

1635
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, self taught, self reliant, self employed. Yes, that's

1636
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: the history of you, Luke, I was saying, I once

1637
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 3: went to a nineteen ninety seven Yankees A's Day game,

1638
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 3: and in fact, Luke, you know the nineties counter on

1639
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 3: this show. Can you put it up real quick, man,

1640
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 3: each please This picture, Luke was taken at that game

1641
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 3: in the center field bleachers at Yankee Stadium, where I'm

1642
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: wearing my Wallflower shirt because I went to the concert

1643
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: the night before when Wallflowers and Counting Crows double billed

1644
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: and David Well struck out. I believe seventeen A's that

1645
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 3: day and they put up instead of K's they put

1646
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 3: up beer mug pictures of beer mugs and Luke that day,

1647
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: you was ninety seven. I was a freshman in college.

1648
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: I drank a warm peach tree on the way to

1649
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 3: the stadium and got loaded at like you know eleven, Am,

1650
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 3: look great, great memories, all right. Shout out to Bogo

1651
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: and Coon Dog that were there at that day on

1652
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: the trip as well, Alex Walkuski. Shout out to you two.

1653
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 3: You were there too, Bro. All right, Luke backwards, K

1654
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 3: We got it, Bro number two. Luke. This is from

1655
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 3: Ethan and Adam. They're saying, hey there everyone, huge fan.

1656
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 3: I've been watching. They was preempted with like something nice

1657
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 3: like love you guys, but I'm about to shoot on you.

1658
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: I love you guys, but uh, fuck your life. Okay.

1659
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 3: I've been watching your show since it premiered, and lately

1660
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 3: Brian has been all over the place, which is why

1661
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 3: we love him. So here's my entry. At one hour

1662
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 3: and one minute of Wednesday's July seventh episode, he said

1663
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,879
Speaker 3: that Michelle Rivera is twenty one and oh with twenty

1664
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: three KOs the boxing lightweight prospect who fought on showtime.

1665
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: Sure how that works. But we love you anyways, Brian.

1666
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: We love you too, Luke. But you're dead wrong. Yes,

1667
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 3: I was too excited in the moment. So here's what

1668
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 3: I try to do on this show, Luke. I know

1669
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: that people don't want to hear me talk about boxing,

1670
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: but it's part of my show, it's part of my passion.

1671
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: So sometimes I shoot in a bunch of facts really

1672
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 3: fast to try to like jam them in before people

1673
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: lose interest. I've done that my whole life. If I'm

1674
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 3: talking to you about something that I'm excited about, but

1675
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: I know you don't care. In fact, Luke, right now,

1676
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: you're you're probably doing it to me. When you and

1677
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: I are in public, I talk to you like, I'll

1678
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: go on for like four minutes and I'll be impassioned

1679
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 3: and they'll look over and you're not fucking listening at all,

1680
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: bro at all. And you do that a lot during

1681
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 3: the show too, So I tried to jam in he's

1682
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: actually twenty one to oh and he's twenty three years old, but.

1683
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: Nobody really cares anyway.

1684
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: Look, okay, so yeah, I'm dead wrong.

1685
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: Or maybe he had a few fights where he got

1686
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,839
Speaker 1: like multiple KOs in the fight or something.

1687
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Like, like you ever noticed that even

1688
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: at the uh Woodley Jake Paul press conference where our

1689
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 3: showtime brethren were like, he's a five time UFC world champion,

1690
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 3: Tyrone wood No, he made you know what, four or

1691
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 3: five title defenses? You know, five time champion. Don't you

1692
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 3: hate Luke when champions say that. John Jones says that

1693
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: all the time. I'm a ten time UFC champion. No, bro,

1694
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: you made title defenses, you didn't regain the belt. Well,

1695
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: in John's case, Luke, he has been stripped enough that

1696
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: might actually be true.

1697
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: I actually don't mind it at all candidly.

1698
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: So you don't mind that people confuse publicly title defenses

1699
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: with heavy like Randy Katour, what is he like a

1700
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 3: three or four time heavyweight champion. That's legit, Luke, he

1701
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: had been stripped of the title he lost in at games.

1702
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, though, it's like, I know

1703
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: what you mean, where there are these moments where you

1704
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: lose it and then get it back and like how

1705
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: difficult that is. That's that's true. At the same time,

1706
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: typically speaking, you don't have ownership with the title once

1707
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: the fight starts for whatever the title defense may be,

1708
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: it's up for grabs at that point. The status is

1709
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: not in any way always conferred through the fight itself.

1710
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: So in that sense, it's that's why they call it

1711
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: because there was a time, like when Matt Hughes won

1712
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: all these fights. They send him a new belt every time,

1713
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: and so he might give that. It's like a nine

1714
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: time world champion.

1715
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: I get that in the display case at home. You

1716
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: get nine belts. It's fine, But Luke, if any boxing

1717
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: fan hears Tyron Woodley is a five time UFC champion, like,

1718
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 3: holy shitty what he won and lost the title four

1719
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: freaking times? Like, no, bro, that's wrong. It's like, Luke,

1720
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: when people say Diego Sanchez is UFC Hall of Famer

1721
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 3: because his fight was put in the Hall of Fame.

1722
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,799
Speaker 3: Don't we have standards in life anymore?

1723
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,480
Speaker 1: I think you're being pedantic?

1724
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 3: All right? Number three here Luke From Daniel and Adam.

1725
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 3: In the Friday Live episode, at the ten minute mark,

1726
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: BC says the line pour some sugar on me in

1727
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 3: the name of love. Luke's response, while on par with

1728
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 3: the era of butt Rock, was incorrect. It isn't a

1729
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 3: bon jovie song. As Luke said, it is most definitely

1730
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: a deaf leopard song. Now, Luke, I don't remember you

1731
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: saying bond Jovi in real time, but yeah, you're dead

1732
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: freaking wrong.

1733
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Pour Some Sugar on Me another one of these

1734
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: terrible ass songs that I had to tolerate at frat

1735
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: parties so that women would come over.

1736
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 3: Well, look, that was your choice to go to go

1737
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 3: the Greek frat route and do some embarrassing initiation.

1738
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: You're asked you on the dance floor too. Motherfucker you

1739
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: think that's not like got Brian Campbell written over it.

1740
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 3: I would have been at the frat party, you know,

1741
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: probably getting slapped by a girl because that's usually my

1742
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 3: track record.

1743
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: I would have been grinding on the fucking fire extinguisher

1744
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: in the corner when Pour Some Sugar on Me came on.

1745
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,879
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been wearing the T shirt. I wouldn't

1746
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: have had to go through the weird like skull and

1747
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 3: bones initiation. I wouldn't have had to sell my soul

1748
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 3: to be part of some organized white gang of losers.

1749
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, they weren't all white.

1750
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: Did your frat get like the branded tats to Luke,

1751
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: you got like a big branded letter on your arm.

1752
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: Or No, those are the black fraternities. That's a very

1753
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: different kind of thing.

1754
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 3: That seems that's extreme love for the frat.

1755
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, well those are like, like I still see

1756
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: some of my fraternity brothers now and again. But the

1757
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: black fraternities seem like those are like lifelong relationships and organizations.

1758
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: They feel like they're much more involved in the totality

1759
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: of their adult lives. So yeah, man, they make serious

1760
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: commitments to it. I'm not getting branded for those fuckers

1761
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: that I partied with. I mean, they're nice dudes, I'm

1762
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: friends with them, but like, noah, bitch, I'm not. I'm

1763
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 1: not taking off fucking hot ironto the flesh for you.

1764
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 3: Your fred have the shak fu osp like hand sign

1765
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 3: that you can do as a form of celebration in

1766
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: real life.

1767
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: No, again, that's the that's the Q dogs who do that.

1768
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't think we had anything like that. Oh we

1769
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: did have a secret handshake though, we did have those.

1770
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: I know it. I'll teach it to you if you

1771
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: want to know it. Yeah. Okay, you're the one who

1772
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: introduced the tip to tip concept on the show, and

1773
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: yet now you're pasting it onto my fraternity from twenty

1774
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: years ago. It doesn't work that way, Buco.

1775
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna create a cool fraturn of the Luke involving MK.

1776
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: But there's gonna be no.

1777
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: Dude, You're gonna be the president of Lambda, Lambda Lambda.

1778
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: It's okay, that's all right.

1779
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 3: The nerds wan in the end, Luke hair Pie right,

1780
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 3: they won in the end, Luke our final dead wrong

1781
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: From Ryan, Austin and Ethan. At one hour and sixteen

1782
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 3: minutes of episode one seventy nine, Brian says that obi

1783
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 3: Wan and Anakin fought on Kashik the whole world of

1784
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 3: the Wookies, where in fact that battle took place on

1785
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 3: Moustafar where you want, well, here's the deal, where obi

1786
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 3: Wan led his best friend burn to death. This is

1787
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: there's been multiple references. I did correctly say Mustafar on

1788
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: the Room Service Diaries, but I made a second reference

1789
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: on the episode the other day where I think I did,

1790
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 3: And I think it was one of the situations with

1791
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 3: Luke where I've tried to talk fast because I know

1792
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 3: I've lost in, I've lost your interest, so I jammed

1793
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: in Kashik. But that's yes, that's the Wookie that's where

1794
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 3: they killed all the Wookies and yeah, all right, all right,

1795
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 3: go to the mustafas. Yes, yes, big al he's even say.

1796
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: M no.

1797
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: But but dude, freaking Chewie man, so he's loyal as fu.

1798
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: Chewie is the fucking boss, bro Het, Chewy list you

1799
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: motherfucker's up. He's like, what, don't ask questions, Chewie.

1800
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: Do you think Chewie caught like secondhand tail from hanging

1801
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 3: around with Han all those Do you think he was

1802
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: only into Wookie women or do you think he would

1803
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,480
Speaker 3: He had no problem.

1804
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: With that fucking dirt bag. He would take his pants

1805
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: off for anybody he can.

1806
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 3: He didn't wear pants, bro.

1807
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's Chewbacca. He just shows up to parties no pants. Yo.

1808
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 3: He probably had a like a He's like if Chewbacco

1809
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: was an adult film star, look you know what label

1810
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: he'd be under.

1811
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: Dude. I'm gonna take Chewbacca to the liquor store and

1812
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: be like, yo, Chewbacca, we're just gonna take what we want.

1813
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: He goes in there and just takes all the rail

1814
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: ship and he just walks on and I look at

1815
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: the clerk. I'm like, what the fuck you gonna do

1816
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: about it?

1817
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: Nothing like that scene and Teenwolf when Michael J. Fox's

1818
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: eyes turned red. Luke and that old bastards just like yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, bro,

1819
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: sure Bro, all right, Hey Luke, that's a that's our

1820
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 3: show for this week. Hey we hit ninety minutes. You

1821
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 3: got it. You do have to respect the fact that

1822
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: when BC hosts, it's very efficient, it's very humorous and entertaining, Luke.

1823
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: In fact, some of our viewers have gone to the

1824
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: extreme of saying that maybe I should have been hosting

1825
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 3: since the beginning.

1826
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: I just yes, there are a lot of people who

1827
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: DM you whose opinions I don't respect. That's true, Luke.

1828
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 3: What do you what are your thoughts on starting rival fraternities?

1829
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 3: What do you mean that you know you start your

1830
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 3: own MK fraternity? I start my almost like a nWo

1831
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 3: Red and Black versus you know, Red versus in black

1832
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: versus the original white.

1833
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't have time for your games.

1834
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: And our frats would you know, war against each other

1835
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: in some ways to Luke, and then we would end

1836
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,440
Speaker 3: it with like some type of academic decathlon to decide

1837
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: the winner in which frat is is more boss is more.

1838
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: The Alpha Fraternity is number one, and no, I've already

1839
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 1: done my I got it out of my system. You're

1840
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: just now realizing you were the perfect candidate and you

1841
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: skipped it because of your myopia earlier in life.

1842
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 3: Okay, if you're so, if you're so pro frat, Luke,

1843
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: you're not accepting my challenge to like a Billy Madison

1844
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 3: inspired academic to cathalon where we compete against each other

1845
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: in multiple events which test our mental and physical of

1846
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 3: what's left of us in our old washed state. In

1847
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 3: best fraternity wins.

1848
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: So you're trying to set up content we've already shot

1849
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: in a way that we didn't actually shoot it. So

1850
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot this down and be like.

1851
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 3: No, you're a genius.

1852
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 1: That's in real time what I'm trying to do in.

1853
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 3: Real time with no prep. How genius is that transition?

1854
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: I admit, I admit the shoehorn was smoother than I

1855
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. But no, I'm not

1856
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: doing that shit.

1857
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you just continue to be an old bitch. Yes, yes, yes,

1858
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 3: uh yeah. So that's it for today's show, Luke. Enjoy

1859
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: the fights this weekend. Two pm Eastern today, on the

1860
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 3: Showtime Sports YouTube channel. We'll be hosting the Charlois Stan

1861
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 3: your way in, so check in with us as we

1862
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: check in on the fighters, see if everyone made weight

1863
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 3: again ahead of the big Undisputed dance. That's all I

1864
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 3: got for this week, for our great friends at CBS

1865
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: Sports and Showtime and Malka putting on this show when

1866
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: each on the ones and twos, gaff Sally, Al Wendling, Mikey,

1867
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 3: all the good folks who help us put this together.

1868
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: Thank you. If you want to buy our merch, you

1869
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 3: of course know where to go Morning Combat Dot Store. Luke,

1870
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 3: do you have any updates on that shit or we

1871
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: get more merch? What's happening?

1872
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: I have no idea?

1873
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 3: All right, Luke has emotionally pulled out of that, similar

1874
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,520
Speaker 3: to what he did physically during most of his frat weekends.

1875
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I wish my parties had gone that well.

1876
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 3: Follow us below, Luke. What was your your lame guy

1877
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 3: Phi lambed dog?

1878
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: What was it my fraternity? Yeah? I was Sigma Pie

1879
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: of the Alpha Eta chapter two.

1880
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: Come loudly something like that. I don't know.

1881
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: You're so dumb. You're so dumb. You just have the

1882
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: datus oaks out here. It's not Cormier Holloway, it's you,

1883
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: you old fuck all right.

1884
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 3: Also Beltor tonight in i PM Eastern on Showtime, do

1885
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: not miss that, enjoy the fights. We'll be back next

1886
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: week with with some bangers ahead of all things, Dyla Shaw,

1887
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 3: San Hagan, Luke, I got some big interviews lined up

1888
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 3: coming up in the hopper, Big b KFC week next week.

1889
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 3: Luke okay, I hope you're getting fired up for who

1890
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 3: helps fighting pvz and Ostovich. You know, yeah, the rematch?

1891
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 3: Luke okay?

1892
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: Sweet?

1893
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right? Uh for Luke, looked you what you

1894
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 3: have a message for the people? Nothing?

1895
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Don't drink and drive this weekend. Get an uber.

1896
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a fair request. My name is

1897
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 3: Brian Campbell, that's Luke Thomas. This was the best show

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01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: in combat sports today, better than your other favorite shows.

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: I know you watch that ship. I know you're still

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01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: watching that ship. You're not having fun. You don't enjoy that.

1901
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 3: That's wimpy bullshit. They're not edgy. They don't take chances.

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01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: The fuck's wrong with you?

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01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: If I ship my pants, I'm mailing my pants to you.

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01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Can you close the show?

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01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Please, all right, I'll close it with two more words,

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: we out.