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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish

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Speaker 1: on First. Welcome into Fish on First Live, partnered with

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network. I'm your host Jeremiah Geiger. Joining me

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Speaker 1: today is Eli Sussman. We have a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about on today's live stream, so hopefully you hop in

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Speaker 1: the comments let us know your thoughts. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the World Baseball Classic. Of course that's on a

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Speaker 1: lot of people's mind. But Eli, we do have some

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Speaker 1: unfortunate news that we have to lead the show off with,

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Speaker 1: and that is Adam Major is going to miss the

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Speaker 1: entire twenty twenty sixth season. He underwent UCL reconstruction surgery

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Speaker 1: performed by doctor Keith Meister. Yeah, just right off the bat,

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Speaker 1: what's your main takeaways from this blow from this injury?

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Speaker 2: Well, I had a bad feeling about it as soon

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Speaker 2: as they were saying that he was going to visit

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Speaker 2: the doctor, doctor Meister a few days prior to that.

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Speaker 2: That's always a bad sign when you go directly to

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Speaker 2: the guy that performs all the TJ surgeries in order

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Speaker 2: to get that intimate opinion. As as if people aren't familiar.

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Speaker 2: This is now the pre eminence TJ guy, the guy

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Speaker 2: for fixing any sort of UCL damage to somebody's elbow.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of he's become the new poster. He's become

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Speaker 2: like the new go to doctor for that. It used

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Speaker 2: to be James Andrews for so many years, and James

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Speaker 2: Andrews finally retired and now doctor Keith Meister is he's

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Speaker 2: the best best in the business at this point. He's

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Speaker 2: the one that fixed Sandy's elbow a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: in URI's elbow a couple of years ago as well.

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Speaker 2: So the Marlins seem to have a level of comfort

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Speaker 2: with him in particular now Maser going under the same

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Speaker 2: process as you mentioned it is. They're not calling it

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Speaker 2: straight up Tommy John because they have the internal brace

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Speaker 2: aspect to it where they feel that he was a

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Speaker 2: candidate based on the particular nature of his terror that

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Speaker 2: they think that could expedite the recovery a little bit

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Speaker 2: compared to the usual Tommy John. It's something that gives

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Speaker 2: him at least the puncher's chance of being ready for

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Speaker 2: opening Day next year. I think the most likely outcome

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Speaker 2: is that he's slightly delayed coming out of spring training

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven. It's a guy that I was

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Speaker 2: probably a little bit lower on ever since compared to

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Speaker 2: the consensus when the Marlins acquired him, Like he was

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Speaker 2: to me a pretty clear second piece in that Robbie

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Speaker 2: Snelling deal in exchange for Tanner Scott going to the Padres.

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Speaker 2: And I think with him what stands out is he

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Speaker 2: checks some of the boxes you like as a starter.

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Speaker 2: He is a very deep pitch mick, and he has

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a clear path for him to get whiffs,

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Speaker 2: Like if you look at his major league track record

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Speaker 2: that he has. As a guy that watching him in

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Speaker 2: the minors, his control has always been very good. But

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Speaker 2: he's somebody that with more control over commands, I didn't

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Speaker 2: feel like he was somebody that spotted hisself for his stuff,

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Speaker 2: for a guy that never had been on the injured

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Speaker 2: So I'll smop by saying that you just never know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really unfortunate for a guy like Major because

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Speaker 1: I know people have been talking about Robbie Selling maybe

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Speaker 1: Major in my mind, was slotted to be that guy

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Speaker 1: Max Meyer, Brax and Garrett hasn't pitched since twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Is Max Meyer a starter? There's a lot of question

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Speaker 2: Right see to me, Maser was, in my opinion, about

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Speaker 2: seventh on the rotation depth chart, behind these five, behind Sandy, Yury, Paddock,

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Speaker 2: So to me, I agree with you that he would have.

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Speaker 2: He was slated to pitch even more this upcoming year

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Speaker 2: And so now without him, they're going to hold on

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Speaker 2: but it's better to show promising signs that not. Paddock

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Speaker 2: But he looked really sharp in spring training in terms

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Speaker 2: And Max is I think we should touch on Max

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Speaker 2: He's coming off a game where I think he struck

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Speaker 2: He was absolutely lights out in that game and over

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Speaker 3: At least yeah, with Max Mayer.

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because the other day against the Astros,

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Speaker 1: I was really curious as to how the fastball looked,

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Speaker 1: adjustments to not necessarily his arsenal. I know they added

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Speaker 1: But when you're throwing your slider as your bread and

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Speaker 1: I think it was against the A's a season ago.

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Speaker 1: that's why the fastball for me is so important to develop.

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Speaker 1: And the problem with Max Meyer's fastball for all the

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Speaker 1: listeners out there, it's just so flat. Now Meyer throws hard,

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Speaker 3: Very well done.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at these dudes. This is the

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Speaker 1: him from last year. So I'm excited for these quarterfinal matchups.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see some good baseball. I'm glad

435
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: somebody brought this up because this also came up on

436
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: we recording to pot earlier today for Fish and Filtered.

437
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: They will come out tomorrow at this actually topic about

438
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: the pronunciation of the name, whether it's Marcie or Marcie,

439
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: because the broadcasters have been it's kind of been a

440
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: mixed results where even with some Marlins games last year,

441
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Seeloff occasionally said Marcie, and I've heard

442
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 1: it both ways. That's something we'll get clarification on shortly

443
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: after the tournament from the man himself. I think he's

444
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: been I've gone with as I've said on this pod, Marcie,

445
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: but I've heard it both ways from people that are

446
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: trying to get it right. So I think, just generally speaking,

447
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: he's just somebody that hasn't expressed a strong preference one

448
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: way or the other. But we'll get as clear an

449
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: answer as we can from him heading into the season

450
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: once we get to speak to him again. But I'm

451
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: glad you've this came up, because this was something that

452
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking about earlier today actually, and I also

453
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up as well from Big Chungus.

454
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: Would anyone agree with me to say that Augustine should

455
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: not be in the WBC and should have stayed back

456
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: at camp to take advantage as much as possible to

457
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: work on his issue behind the plate, or just me

458
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: it's somewhat of a valid question to raise just because

459
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: it becames so clear that he was going to be

460
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: the backup with DR.

461
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: He's played one of the first four games. The way

462
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: that the schedule lines up, it's not a lock that

463
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: he's going to start any of the remaining games moving forward.

464
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: They started him, just says really more so to make

465
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: sure that Austin Wells was properly rested over the course

466
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: of pool play and now with some extra off days

467
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: moving forward. Even if DR makes it all the way through,

468
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll see Gus make another start, And

469
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: it's unclear whether he'll make another game because that's a

470
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: team in the DR that has shown the best offense

471
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: in the entire tournament. At this point, there's not really

472
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: anybody there that Gus is going to be pinch hitting for,

473
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: even if I think a lot of his offensive potential, Yeah,

474
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: he's whether it's offensively or defensively, not getting a lot

475
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: of reps there. What's your take on this, Jeremiah, about

476
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: him riding the bench over there when in taking what

477
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: could end up being like two full weeks away from

478
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: actual Marlin scamp.

479
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when it comes down to Augustine's participation

480
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: in the tournament, although he's the backup, this obviously means

481
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: something for him to represent his nation his country at

482
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: the biggest stage in the baseball world. I mean, we've

483
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: seen a lot of players speak out about how proud

484
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 1: they are to be representing their heritage, their country, and

485
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: so I think that's a big part of it is

486
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: Augustine wants to be there. He wants to be on

487
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: the team, even if he's not getting the ideal playing time.

488
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: And then my counter argument to that comment also, I

489
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: just don't know if two weeks is really going to

490
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: matter in the long scheme of things for Augustine's development

491
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: as a catcher. I think we all know that Joe

492
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: Mack is the defensive catcher of the future. It's a

493
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: matter of time, you know. These last couple of weeks,

494
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: would it have made Augustine Ramirez an above average defensive catcher.

495
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Probably not.

496
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: So. I think him being on the roster and having

497
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: that experience that not a lot of players necessarily get

498
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: to have, it's an honor if you get to represent

499
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: your country.

500
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: It's been good.

501
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: And I'll say, in his defense, by all accounts, his

502
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: work ethic is not really a question. All the time

503
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: he's put in both last offseason and again this offseason

504
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: is above and beyond what the Marlins want in terms

505
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: of the time that he spends on specifically working on

506
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: his defense. So he's put in the effort already, and like, realistically,

507
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: for about when we're looking at how much spring training matters,

508
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: a lot of the hard work actually has done before

509
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: you get to spring training. If you show up at

510
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: spring training and you still have some big issues in

511
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: your game's there's only so much, realistically that any sort

512
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: of coaching can do to change that and improve you

513
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Like you can not even single

514
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: out Gus and point to a bunch of other different scenarios.

515
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 2: You can point to Christopher Morell learning first base, Like

516
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: the Marlins made it clear a couple months before spring

517
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: training that he was going to be used a lot

518
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: of first base, he started working on it in the offseason.

519
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: Exact same thing with Griff and Conine as well. They

520
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: were telling Griff months ago that he was going to

521
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: be getting some reps at first base, so he worked

522
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: independently to do that. So yeah, that's even though I'd

523
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: say it's more eyewash than anything to say that. If

524
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: you know, he's back in spring training, he's catching these

525
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: meaningless exhibition games. A couple hours north of Miami. That

526
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: that shows and that that will really make much of

527
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: a difference, that this a lot of the hard work

528
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: has already been done, and if it doesn't translate, it

529
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: doesn't translate. And I'm I'm not alone, and certainly Big

530
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: Chungus is not alone, and you know, being kind of

531
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: concerned about how that's going to translate moving forward, He's

532
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: done what he can to this point to make the

533
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: most out of his skill set, and realistically, it's probably

534
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: not a skill set that is going to make a

535
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: whole lot of sense that catcher moving forward. But yeah,

536
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: I'll get into later in the show. I do think

537
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: that he's going to get a long leash to catch

538
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: early in the year despite Mac being ready, just because

539
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: this is it's such is such a difference if he

540
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: turns out to be playable at all behind the plate

541
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: versus just being a DH only. And the Marlins are

542
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, they want to hold on to that hope

543
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: as long as they possibly can until, you know, until

544
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: they're forced to make a change. So I think in

545
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: a lot of our opinions that change may ready be

546
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: overdue for him to move off with that position. But

547
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean, by all accounts he's going to be starting

548
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: there at the beginning of the year. Something just to

549
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: bring up with Mac is that things he had a

550
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: couple of notable plays early on in spring, both offensively

551
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: and defensively, and then really quietly it's been it's gone

552
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: really downhill as a hitter. I think he's hitless in

553
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: his last five or six games overall, in a way

554
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: that I think takes out any of the suspense In

555
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: terms of what the Marlins are going to look like

556
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: entering the season. It's going to be Gus, It's going

557
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: to be Hicks, and then Mac is going to wait

558
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: in line behind them for yeah, and the exact timing

559
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: of that is still going to be on clear when

560
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: exactly are they going to shake things up and incorporate

561
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: him into things. This is a look at the quarterfinal matchups,

562
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: just so everyone's on the same page. It's Korea versus

563
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: the dr that's a game in Miami, USA. He plays Canada.

564
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: That's one of the Houston games. Puerto Rico and Italy

565
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: that will also be in Houston, and then Venezuela versus

566
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Japan will be in Miami. I sped through this too

567
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: much without even talking about Sandy. So we should talk

568
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: briefly about Sandy and this outing that he had just

569
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: last night against Venezuela.

570
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: It was just an amazing scene.

571
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: We have both Isaac and Kevin covering it in person,

572
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: and I think even by the standards of the twenty

573
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: twenty three WBC, this was really totally awe inspiring to

574
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: see this crowd. I think it was the second largest

575
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: crowd for a WBC game in that ballpark. So even

576
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 2: compared to games last year, like the championship game and

577
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: the ones that were true elimination games, this one that

578
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: actually was not an elimination game at all, had totally

579
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: packed the place. This is a photo of it from

580
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: I think right towards the start of the game, So

581
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't just that it filled in over the course

582
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: of it. They opened up the gates like three hours

583
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: early in out of anticipation and they got this crazy,

584
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: crazy scene between these two teams. So for Sandy was

585
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: exactly on the three year anniversary of his previous WB Star.

586
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: It was the VC Star, which also came against Venezuela

587
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: under very similar circumstances, and the performance overall Jeremiah was

588
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: pretty similar to that previous one as well. He took

589
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: the loss last time. This time dr ends up winning it,

590
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: but mostly on the strength of their bats. And yeah,

591
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: not a particularly impactful performance by Sandy himself.

592
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the environment, like you can see from

593
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: that picture is just outstanding. Makes you want to be

594
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: in the ballpark and experience that firsthand. You saw if

595
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: you saw Isaac Azout's post from before the game right

596
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: outside the stadium, the crowd coming in, it was electric.

597
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: People are playing music, and it just seemed like an

598
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: incredible place to watch a baseball game. Sandy, you know,

599
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: it's it's tough because he technically got the win. But

600
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, we live in twenty twenty six. I don't

601
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: think the majority of fans dictate wins and losses as

602
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: measuring a success of a pitcher. Sandy goes three innings,

603
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: gave up five hits, three earned runs, he walked to

604
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: struck out three against a solid Venezuelan team, for sure.

605
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of really good players,

606
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: including Ronald Acunya Junior, who actually went hitless last night.

607
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Funny enough, their best player goes hitless. But you know, Sandy,

608
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm glad that the Dominican Republic won

609
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: because Sandy's on that team and I want to see

610
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: him get another crack at an opponent later on this WBC.

611
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: But I would be lying if I said that that

612
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: particular outing inspired me, because you are facing a lineup

613
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: that is stocked with major league hitters, and that's kind

614
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: of gonna be the competition you're gonna face in the

615
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: regular season. And he didn't really do anything dominant coming

616
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: off of a start. I believe it was against Houston

617
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: ELI in which he went three shutout. That was where

618
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Snelling went three shutout and Sandy went three shutout. I

619
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: think it kind of comes crashing back down to earth

620
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: against good competition, so a little bit disappointing on that

621
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: front to it.

622
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 2: In his defense, there were a couple grounders that weren't

623
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: converted into outs and maybe could have been if he

624
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: was playing in front of Atto Lopez and Xavier Edwards.

625
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: There was playing the first ending that led a lot

626
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: of runs, well not directly a lot of run, but

627
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: it made it easier for Venezuela to score run in

628
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: that ending as a sharp grounder hit directly at the

629
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: short stop that he couldn't handle smoothly. I think it

630
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: was Heraldo Perdomo that was playing there, and like, that's

631
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: what Sandy, that's the reality was saying, and that even

632
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: when he's on top of his game, he's somebody that

633
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: leans on his infield defense, and his infield defense is

634
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: going to make a difference between whether or not sometimes

635
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: makes a difference with whether it's a good outing or

636
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: even a mediocre one, if depending on the sequencing of

637
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: those batted balls and whether those players are made or not.

638
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: So that made him a.

639
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: Little bit more difficult overall, no excuses because of our

640
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: several legitimately hard hit line drives as well. In the

641
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: subsequent endings after that, including Luise a Rise was able

642
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: to get one over the first baseman's head for an

643
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: RBI double. Now WBC Arise is a different animal compared

644
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: to the regular season Arise.

645
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: He's one of the best hitters.

646
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 2: Not only one of the best batting average hitters, but

647
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: really one of the best most productive all round hitters,

648
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: both in the last WBC and then again in this one.

649
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: So maybe that was part of it, yeah, but overall

650
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: it's it's just still a little inconsistent in terms of

651
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: him commanding his pitches. Something that I brought up with

652
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: Maser and the fact that that's something they kind of

653
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: have in common at times that Sandy generally speaking, is has.

654
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: The reason why there's so much faith in him moving

655
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: forward is because the stuff has in some aspects, it

656
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: has come back. The velocity has come back overall where

657
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: he was like the stuff doesn't move exactly the same

658
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: as it used to, but because arm angle has changed

659
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: among other things since he came back from Tommy John,

660
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: still like the velocity is there. Like he was sitting

661
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: ninety seven last night and hitting ninety nine and he's.

662
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: Still able to He's still confident.

663
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: He's still somebody that is going to throw strikes, and

664
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: I think last night either walked one or two batters,

665
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: but it's not usually going to be hit much more

666
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: than that, even when he's fully stretched out in the game.

667
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: It's more so about whether he's can get enough whiffs

668
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: moving forward with his stuff, and it's just overall avoid

669
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: enough hard contact. So yeah, well last night there was

670
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: just too much hard contact. And part of that's the competition.

671
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: But as you said that, there is the caliber of

672
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: the lineup that he faced, even though it has some.

673
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: Very big bright stars.

674
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: I think overall, like it's not that much different to

675
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: a lot of the lineups he's gonna be facing, or

676
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: the course of the regular season itself, So we'll see.

677
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: I think the biggest storyline coming out of this from

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: Sandy actually was the fact that he is still very

679
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: interested in pitching again in the WBC. So it'll look

680
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: at the schedule. We're recording this on the twelfth, he

681
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: pitched on the eleventh, and if DR makes it all

682
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: the way to the championship, that'll be on the seventeenth.

683
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: That'll give him five days rest in between, which is

684
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: just completely normal workload, clearly normal throwing schedule for a

685
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: starting pitcher, even if he is back up in spring training,

686
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: and if DR trusts him despite these kind of shaky

687
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: results in this game, he said he's going to be

688
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: ready to contribute, whether it's as a starter or reliever.

689
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 2: And this is somebody that has not pitched in relief

690
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: under any context, probably since twenty seventeen when he was

691
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals organization. So the fact that he's even

692
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: receptive to doing that just shows how much this tournament

693
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: means to him. I think we could get into like

694
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: a longer conversation if we want about how how invested

695
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: emotionally a lot of these players are in the tournament itself.

696
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: That's what makes it so cool, the fact that they

697
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: care that they are just as they treat it in

698
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: the same magnitude, if not even greater than an actual

699
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: MLD postseason scenario, just because of how much pride they have,

700
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: and recognizing that this doesn't even come around every year.

701
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: This only comes around every three years. To represent your

702
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: country and to be able to make the difference in

703
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: understanding that moving forward, these are all single elimination games. Yeah,

704
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: I think you can expect that if dr makes it

705
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: to the championship game, that Sandy is going to wind

706
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: up pitching in some capacity in that game itself. So

707
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: that's overall, that's what There's a couple sides of that

708
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: where you want him to that's so important for him

709
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: to do it, but you got to be a little

710
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: bit nervous when you see the results this time around.

711
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: You don't want him to be the reason why they

712
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: end up ultimately losing that type of game, especially if

713
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: it's coming against an even tougher lineup than the one

714
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: he faced this time around.

715
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would that would not be fun.

716
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: If Sandy is the reason why a team Dominican Republic

717
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: goes down, I do want to say, because I'm seeing

718
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: some of these comments here about Sandy and not being

719
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: the same, and you know, whether he's washed or not,

720
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: I think expectations sometimes have to be adjusted, not necessarily

721
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: changed all the way. And we can root for the player,

722
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: root for the person. But Sandy Alcntra won a cy

723
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: young four seasons ago in twenty twenty two, and a

724
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: lot has changed with him. He's gotten older, He's undergone

725
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: a major, major surgery. I know Tommy John is something

726
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: that a lot of pitchers have, but the rehab is grueling,

727
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: The time you take off from baseball is grueling, and

728
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: so real. Adjusting our viewpoint on how we view Sandy

729
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: sometimes has to be in consideration because I don't view

730
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: Sandy in the same level as a.

731
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: Trek Scooble or a Paul's schemes.

732
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: And sometimes I feel like there's this pressure from the

733
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: fan base that Sandy's got to go out and throw

734
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: seven shutout and he still can, that's still in the tank.

735
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: But you know, these nights do happen, These games do happen.

736
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: Where like Eli was saying the command could be a

737
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: little shaky here and there, and we just have to

738
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: recognize that because a lot has changed in the four

739
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: years post Cy Young. And the last point I'll make

740
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: about the WBC ELI going back to what you said

741
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: about the importance of it. I think it was Key

742
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: k Hernandez, former Marlin, current Dodger, who's been in World Series,

743
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: who's won multiple rings, and he said the WBC matters

744
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: more to him than a World Series ring does, And

745
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I thought that was very interesting. You see that, of

746
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: course play out among a lot of players, a lot

747
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: of from a lot of not just keyke Hernandez who's

748
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: playing for Team Puerto Rico. I believe they're playing Thursday

749
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: or Saturday, rather today's Thursday Saturday against Team Italy. So

750
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be some must watch baseball.

751
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: I want to take this opportunity, well, we're still talking

752
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: about WBC stuff to plug.

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756
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Speaker 2: gonna be Sandy and the Miami Marlins taking the field

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Speaker 2: that we should get to some Bold predictions. This is

779
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Speaker 2: Bold Predictions Week for us Fish On for something similar

780
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: that we've done the previous couple of years as well.

781
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: We've a podcast post and on this account, Fish Unfiltered

782
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: that really dives into a handful of ones where I

783
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: like to strike this balance between picking things that are

784
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: unlikely to happen, but ones that that we still feel

785
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: kind of strongly about. And you know, the point is

786
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: to convey some sort of useful information to people about

787
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: why we feel a way about a player or about

788
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: a team and why they could exceed expectations. There are

789
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: also possibilities where you can make negative, bold predictions as well,

790
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: people that can fall short of certain expectations or predictions.

791
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 2: I love the ones that are just weird and ones

792
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: that are kind of inexplicable things that maybe forcing unique

793
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: things happening for whatever variety of reasons. What I want

794
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 2: to do first is pull up some of these fan

795
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: submissions that we got from a tweet earlier today where

796
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to get hear what people were thinking when

797
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: it came to this and what directions they might take

798
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: this conversation. So just put out a tweet on the

799
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: fish on first account for people's spiciest takes of the season.

800
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: We're going to scroll through these and you just stop

801
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: me when you see one that he finds particularly interesting

802
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: to you. So there's George Aguilera saying the Marlins will

803
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: sell out seven times this year, something that I don't

804
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: believe they've ever done in a single season at Lone Depot.

805
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: Park from Marvels and stuff.

806
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: Robert Hanson with one that they the Marlins will sign

807
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: Sandy to an extension, something that tomorrow I had I

808
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: just couldn't resist pointing out that the last time that

809
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Marlins signed anybody to an extension was Richard Bleier four

810
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: years earlier during spring training. One that didn't go particularly well.

811
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: There's a Chris Nuniez saying that Marlins will won seventy games.

812
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: Bruce Sherman sells the team to a Saudi investment firm,

813
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: all the players and prospects are traded for even more

814
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: prospects in the stadium is destroyed by a hurricane. Put

815
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: a lot of energy.

816
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: That one.

817
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: From Baseball carp brothers that Auto Lopez will have a

818
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: twenty five home run season. There was a good amount

819
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: of Auto Lopez hype in these. Richard has Auto Lopez

820
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: winning an MVP. I think I saw multiple ones in

821
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: here that are very pro Auto Auto goes twenty twenty

822
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: and wins a gold Glove. That's from Adam Pollock, and

823
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: I think I'll stop with this Hans Herrera Navarro one,

824
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: whereas Grandpay winning a gold Glove and hitting twenty bombs,

825
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: actual finish in the National League's top fifteen and on

826
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 2: base percentage, and Sandy and Yuri will combine for three

827
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety innings pitch. So we got very specific

828
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: with that one. Yeah, I was curious about when the

829
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: last time the Marlins had any two pair of pitchers

830
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: combined for that many innings in a single season, And

831
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: actually wasn't that long ago. The last time was when

832
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: Sandy won the Cy Young. It was Sandy and Pablo

833
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: Lopez that year that went over four hundred innings, with

834
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: Sandy pulling a lot of the weight. It's me that

835
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: would the key with Uri is just making sure that

836
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: he is out there for that many because they're going

837
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: to reach three to ninety, then nearly half of those

838
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: are going to come from from Uri himself, and he's

839
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: somebody that has never come particularly close to a full

840
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: season's major league workload. So yeah, that's one that I'm

841
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: really really looking forward. That's one that would have a

842
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: very big positive impact on the team that they're both there,

843
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: and that ties into that Amazer injury pretty closely, because

844
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: that just it just all the more important now for

845
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: those front line starters to actually stay healthy for the

846
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: entire year. Otherwise this team's gonna that's the vulnerability that

847
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: this team has. If they lose any of those guys

848
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: for a significant length of time, then there's just fewer

849
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: options behind them to realistically.

850
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: Keep the ship afloat.

851
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: I like that first part of Hans Herrera's Graham Pauli

852
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: winning the Gold Glove because the twenty bombs is interesting.

853
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: I really think it just depends on the playing time.

854
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: I think he has the power to do that. He

855
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: would need a lot of at bats. Not necessarily a

856
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: huge power bat, but adequate power.

857
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: I could see that happen.

858
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: It's not out of the realm of possibility, Graham with

859
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: the gold Glove. Though, if we dissect this, sometimes it

860
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: feels like the Gold Glove can be a popularity contest,

861
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: and I would be willing to bet that if you

862
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: went around and talk to most space Ball fans, they're

863
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: not gonna know who Grand PAULI is. So it would

864
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: take a spectacular, really special season where he's playing there

865
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: every day, makes himself known to the rest of the

866
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: baseball world for that to happen.

867
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: But I like it. I like the Grand Polly hype.

868
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm a believer.

869
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm also a believer in Otto Lopez. Otto Lopez twenty

870
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: five home runs. We saw a huge power jump from

871
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: year one to year two in the Marlins organization. I

872
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: think twenty home runs is in there. Twenty five seems

873
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: like a lot, But I think Otto Lopez is gonna

874
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: shock a lot of people. I've compared him this breakout

875
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: season that I'm projecting for Otto Lopez to a Heraldo

876
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Perdomo type breakout, and Heraldo Perdomo, of course had an

877
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: excellent season with the Diamondbacks. I think Auto has that

878
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: in the tank. We're gonna see.

879
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: Yes, certainly, I know somebody that if you look at

880
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: the batted ball quality last year, he was somebody that

881
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: was relatively unlucky, especially early in the season, in terms

882
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: of not having his well struck balls translate to extra

883
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: base hits the way that they should. And that's that's

884
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: such a big component of his game moving forward. Where

885
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: that could really be the difference between him being just

886
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: a really steady, everyday shortsop versus being one that has

887
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: that per doma like ceiling where he's an actual All

888
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: Star and somebody that you know, the Marlins can really

889
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: build around more so than being any sort of placeholder

890
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: at that position. From Marlin Maniac about the Miami's games played,

891
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: the leader at first base won't be on the opening

892
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: day roster. That was I saw that several times as well.

893
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: Not a lot of faith in Christopher Morrell holding down

894
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: first base over the course of the entire season. In fact,

895
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: that came up from Isaac as well in his unfiltered

896
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: pod about Davis and Dala. Santos in particular, probably ended

897
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: up getting a long run over the course of the

898
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: season at that position instead of a morel because of

899
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: how unfamiliar he is. There were a couple on Jacob

900
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: Barry from Caiden Kneehammer, This one about Jacob Barry getting

901
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: at least seventy five at bats for the Marlins this season.

902
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: I think he's gonnet called up at some point, but

903
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: that would to get to seventy five, He's gonna actually

904
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: have to hit a little bit to stick around that long,

905
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: so I've qualified that as bold as well. I think

906
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: for the most part, a lot of these predictions are

907
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: sufficiently bold and unlikely, but ones that it could actually happen,

908
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: except for the ownership changes. One Peter pat Job dumped

909
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: in on the new ownership by the trade deadline. Yeah, well,

910
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: I mean all, I wouldn't rule out anything beyond this

911
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: season when it comes to that, but certainly during the season.

912
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: That's as bold as it gets.

913
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: We's got some live bold predictions from bipolar Miami heath

914
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: fan about me becoming the Marlins manager this season. As

915
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: I've gone to learn more about Clinton McCullough, I think

916
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: that he's going to be sticking around for a pretty

917
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: long time. That'll be pretty difficult for me to overcome that.

918
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: And then you taken over for Bruce becoming the Marlins owner.

919
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: This from Brian about and bringing back the teal in

920
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: a new rebrand. It's about as bold as it gets.

921
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 2: And then another one from bipolar Miami heaf fan about

922
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: Jeremiah and Isaac a Zoo will.

923
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: Be in the booth this season.

924
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know they've to take any games away

925
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: from Tommy Hutton. I don't think that would that would

926
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: be a disservice to him. I think we have enough

927
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: respect for him that even if there was that invitation,

928
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: we'd let him get as many games as possible this year.

929
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: And they quite a bit of Yuri positive ones as well.

930
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: We mentioned the one about the NX pitch, but several

931
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: relates to the cy Young from Scott me Misto about

932
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: him winning the cy Young. We had several others related

933
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: to that about him getting close to winning one as

934
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: well from Marlin's Guy about Robbie Snelling winning a Rookie

935
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: of the Year that was that was actually a conversation

936
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: point on Unfiltered, so I won't go too deep into

937
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: that one. And then uh yeah, some Chris Paddock optimism

938
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: as well from Nathan about Chris pa era under three.

939
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: I thought, I think under four would be sufficiently bold.

940
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: Under three.

941
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: Under three would make that I mean, no way, there's

942
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: really no way around it. If he posts an ERA

943
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: under three, that's the best agent signing in Marlin's history.

944
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: I take an ERA from Paddock under four and a

945
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: half and be content with that.

946
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

947
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: That's an interesting thing that I'm monitoring entering this season

948
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: is how expectations have changed in a hurry for Chris Paddock,

949
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: just based on some small sample sized stuff, some intangible stuff.

950
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: But I think he's an easy guy to root for,

951
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: but maybe not quite that much, even when he was

952
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: taken very briefly took the world by storm in twenty

953
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: nineteen when he was a rookie with the Padres, and

954
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: even then, I think his ERA was back above three

955
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: by the middle of the season that year. And so

956
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: there's some precedent of him doing it for part of

957
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: a season if you go way way back to the

958
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: start of his major league career, but otherwise not so much.

959
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: And there were some more Auto Lopez loved Gold Gloves,

960
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: Tim Sozio saying Xavier Edwards and Auto lobe As will

961
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: both win Gold Gloves. You know that x was a

962
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: finalist last year at his position at second base. From

963
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: and then there's quite a few about the Marlins team

964
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: performance overall. Landon Center the Marlins to make it to

965
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: the NLCS. From Koogie that the Marlins make the playoffs.

966
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: From Falco Lombardi, the Marlins win ninety games, something they've

967
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: only done twice in their entire franchise's history. And yeah,

968
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: a couple of Gus Ramirez ones.

969
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: Interesting.

970
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: I like this one from Chad Taylor about Gus having

971
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 2: more stolen bases than homers, something that was surprisingly close

972
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: last year. Despite him not looking or in any sense

973
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: of the word, being a fast base runner, He's still

974
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: a very clever base runner and somebody that gets a

975
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: lot of uncontested stolen bases by running on the right pitches.

976
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Last year sixteen steals against twenty one homers, if I

977
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: remember that correctly. So it's something that I think that

978
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: still qualifies as bold for something that probably would not

979
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: be top of people's mind from Miasports about Gus bus

980
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: hitting thirty five homers and then several others the Marlins

981
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: winning the NL East, something they've never done in their.

982
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: Entire franchise's history.

983
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, at eighty five wins in a wild card from

984
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: z then Uri being a cy Young Award finalist, and

985
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: in doing so he'll get traded before eight From Big

986
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: Hurt nineteen eighty nine. Yeah, So I think it's having

987
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: read those this time for each of us to squeeze

988
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: in a bold prediction of our own. Is there one

989
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: in particular, Jeremiah that is maybe whether it's related to

990
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: one of these previous ones or not that you find

991
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: that you want to stick out your neck and put

992
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 2: on the record before we get to the season.

993
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

994
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: I put it out on Twitter earlier. I retweeted that post.

995
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: I said that the Marlins are going to have two

996
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: players that hit at least thirty home runs, which of

997
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: course has not been done since Jorge Solaier hit thirty

998
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: six during his tenure with the Marlins, and the last

999
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: time that two Marlins hit thirty or more was back

1000
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen with Gean Carlo Stanton of course, who

1001
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: hit the league leading fifty nine bombs, and Marcelo Zuna.

1002
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: You have to go back to two thousand.

1003
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: And eight all the way before that to find the

1004
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: next time that multiple Marlins players finished above thirty home runs.

1005
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: That's my bold prediction. I'm gonna stick with it.

1006
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I think the Marlins have a few guys that could

1007
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: possibly approach that number. I'll give you some names. Kyle Stowers,

1008
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Augustine Ramirez. Christopher Morel is a wild card. To me,

1009
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: the power is sneaky. He's had a twenty plus home

1010
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: on season. If he gets the plane time, you never know.

1011
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see I think two players make it.

1012
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 3: Though.

1013
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: Do you have the imagination to see Kemp Alderman sneaking

1014
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: into that somehow? Gain called up early in the year

1015
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: sticking arounds. Yeah, if you want to go even Boulder,

1016
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: I guess he's the guy that has the potential to

1017
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: do that. We mention we mentioned Davison in the fact

1018
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: that Davison and if Morel does not work out, then

1019
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: Davison is he'll have a much bigger opportunity at first base.

1020
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: And if nothing else, he is somebody that brings a

1021
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: whole lot of raw power to the equations. He led

1022
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: minor league baseball in home runs just two years ago

1023
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. That'd be a big wild card

1024
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: in that aspect. What I will point out I should

1025
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: remind for people that have not really been following the

1026
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: gradual trends, like Lone Deepot Park is no longer a

1027
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: particularly difficult place to hit home runs at. I think,

1028
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: all things considered, you'd still say excus as being a

1029
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: picture friendly ballpark. But if the WBC is any indication

1030
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: if you've watched any of these Dominican Republic games and

1031
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: how often they hit homers, and it just I think

1032
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: that just kind of hammers home what's been a trend,

1033
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: the fact that the Marlins have brought in the fences

1034
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: a couple different times in the not too distant past.

1035
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: At this point that.

1036
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ball travels. The ball itself doesn't travel quite

1037
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: as well at sea level as it does and the

1038
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: other ballparks, but the dimension are tighter, and as we

1039
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: move into this era where hitters are more pole happy

1040
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: than they've been before, where they're going to parts of

1041
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: the ballpark that are easier to access, and Lone Dee

1042
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: Ballpark is not a particularly hard place to hit home

1043
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: runs down those faut lines. So I think, just all

1044
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: things considered, even though this team itself, as you mentioned

1045
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: the historical context, they haven't had very many of these

1046
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 2: standout home run hitters over the course of the season,

1047
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: it's the bar. I'd say the conditions are more favorable

1048
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: to hitters right now than they were even just a

1049
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: few years ago because of those type of changes, both

1050
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: to yeah, the game as a whole and then specifically

1051
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: to this ballpark. I will mention one that I guess

1052
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: it was somewhat similar to what I've seen other people post,

1053
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: but I haven't seen this particular one that I'm still

1054
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: really high on Augustine Ramirez offensively, so high that I

1055
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 2: think he's going to be a National League All Star

1056
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: this year, a guy that very you could say it

1057
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: was flirting with that last year at when he was

1058
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: hitting so well early in the year and there weren't

1059
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: a ton of other catcher alternatives in the National League

1060
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: that despite that late start, he was kind of in

1061
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: the mix. But I think that his bat is going

1062
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: to really be awesome for if not the whole season,

1063
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: then the vast majority of it. I think people are

1064
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: kind of maybe being a little bit exasperated with him

1065
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: as a player overall, just because of the frustration watching

1066
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: him defensively. And I know that there were the splits

1067
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: last year about him just being a dramatically better player

1068
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: as a DH than he was when he was catching,

1069
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: And to me, I think that that's kind of confirmation bias,

1070
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: people seeing him struggling behind the plate and then reading

1071
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: into it that he can't do both at the same time,

1072
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: like he can't be a good hitter and be catching

1073
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: at the same time. But I think history says that

1074
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: usually doesn't apply. I mean, what he showed last year

1075
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: in terms of not just his raw power, but his

1076
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: overall presence of the plate, and like there's a about

1077
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: of contact.

1078
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: That he makes.

1079
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: There's kind of been this generalization that he's somebody that

1080
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: would have some that his approach, maybe not only his approach,

1081
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: but then maybe that there could be other limitations mechanically

1082
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: that could prevent him from being a good all round hitter.

1083
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: And I think I don't. Again.

1084
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: I think people that's being his late season struggles are

1085
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: kind of distorting the reality of him and how gifted

1086
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: he is as an overall hitter. I think the Marvels

1087
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: are going to give him a long opportunity to catch

1088
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: at the start of the year, and that might frustrate

1089
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: people how long he is catching, But I think he's

1090
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: going to hit enough that even when Joe mack arrives

1091
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: that Gus is going to be in the lineup close

1092
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: to every day as a DH or as the second

1093
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: third string catcher. I think the way that they force

1094
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: fed him played appearances last year kind of shows how

1095
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: much they value his bad It really shocked me at times,

1096
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 2: like how big his workload was as a hitter last year,

1097
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: Like even all these days I was expecting him to

1098
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: have have semi regular off days the way that basically

1099
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: any other catcher does, but he was at times playing

1100
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen games in a row because of how much

1101
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: the Marlins wanted to see him at the plate. So

1102
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: even though though numbers last year were kind of disappointing,

1103
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: it was below He's a below average hitter when you

1104
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: all a said and done, His on base percentage was

1105
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: the main thing weighing that down. It was well below

1106
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: three hundred. In generally speaking, I think he's always going

1107
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: to walk at a below average rate, but I just

1108
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: am so encouraged by what he can do offensively, even

1109
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: though I think he's going to be the best overall

1110
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: hitter on this team over the course of the season.

1111
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: I think defde what Kyle Stowers did last season that

1112
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: that's possible for Gus. It'll be less walks, but I

1113
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: think it can be just as much power all things considered,

1114
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: and the stolen bases. Don't overlook the value of the

1115
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: stolen bases that he's still gonna mix in there one

1116
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: way or the other. So I yeah, I'm still pretty

1117
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: high on him offensively, and I think that he can

1118
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: over the course of at least the first half of

1119
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: the season. Ultimately, All Star is just a half season

1120
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: honor for a player, but I think he absolutely has

1121
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: the potential over the course of half a season to

1122
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: be in that's kind of territory where he represents the

1123
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: Marlins at the Ulstar.

1124
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: Game, just as the Marlins loan representative. Or do you

1125
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: think there is another repeat performance maybe from Kyle Stowers

1126
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: and the Marlins get multiple All Stars. Yeah, this topic

1127
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: comes up, it feels like almost every year because the

1128
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: Marlins almost always get limited to one All Star and

1129
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: it gets very easy to dream about them, like it

1130
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: seems there's certainly the potential if I think Gus can

1131
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: be an All Star and that we've seen Stours do

1132
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: it last year, and that we know the upside that

1133
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: some of these pitchers have. To me to me, Yuri

1134
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: is the guy that I like second most as an

1135
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: All Star this year, and we saw plenty of hype

1136
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: for him from the other Bold predictions just because his

1137
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: his ceiling is so immensely high and it's all about him. Well,

1138
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: there's a few things, yeah, to be fair, I mean,

1139
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: that's kind of why even calling Uri an All Star

1140
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: for this year would actually qualifies a Bold prediction in

1141
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, just because we haven't seen him pitch close

1142
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: to a full season and there's still he's somebody that

1143
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: still allows a lot of fly balls. He's somebody that

1144
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: still has some inconsistencies early in games. We've seen some

1145
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: first endings blow up on him even last year in

1146
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: a way that inflated his overall numbers. So to me,

1147
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: that would that'd be a bold prediction too. I'm probably

1148
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: going extra bold by saying Gus, but yeah, Uri to

1149
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: me is the one that I think can also make

1150
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: a pretty similar leap because when as long as he

1151
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: stays healthy, the strikeouts are going to be off the charts.

1152
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: And he's somebody that the reason why he's such a

1153
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: bigly hyped prospect throughout his entire for so many years,

1154
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: it was because he combines that stuff with that ability

1155
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: to throw strikes as well. So he's somebody that is

1156
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: going to be relatively efficient with his pitches and is

1157
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: uh And I if I one point out something in particular,

1158
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: I feel like his changeup is going to be a

1159
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: bigger weapon this year than it has been in the past.

1160
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: That was something that stood out when he was a

1161
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: prospect and I was kind of confused about how underutilized

1162
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: it's been when he's been in the majors.

1163
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: But that's the potential.

1164
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: That's where he realized the potential to pop as a

1165
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: complete pitcher. So that'll give him an opportunity, especially to

1166
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 2: be more effective against lefties. So yeah, I think, uh yeah,

1167
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: I won't make that an official bold prediction, but I'm

1168
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: super high on Urie too.

1169
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.

1170
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: There anything in I told you before we started recording

1171
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: that I didn't think we're going to get to one

1172
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: hour with just the two of us, but of course

1173
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: we did. Because when there's less people on the stream,

1174
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: it just means that there's more room for me to

1175
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: ramble on stuff.

1176
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: I hope people enjoyed that, and.

1177
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: We brought them some real information to go along with this.

1178
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1179
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,560
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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: were able to fill the time keep you guys entertained

1189
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 2: and that we had quite a bit to cover on here.

1190
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 2: The full Bold Predictions pod is going to be up

1191
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: on Friday wherever you get your podcast. That's with Isaac

1192
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: and Kevin and aj Ramos. If you've been living under

1193
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: a rock aj Ramos, Yes, the former Marls All Star

1194
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: Closer is part of our podcast moving forward every single

1195
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: week on Fish Unfiltered, and then I think in the

1196
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: future we'll have them on some live streams as well.

1197
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 3: Can't wait for that.

1198
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, whether you're listening or watching this, you'll be

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: able to find that pod as well. They went through

1200
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: more than fifteen Bold Predictions over the course of that

1201
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: show that people are going to enjoy. And uh, yeah,

1202
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: this time next week, I'm gonna be down in Jupiter

1203
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: with the team itself. So we're gonna have to get

1204
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: back to you guys in terms of what exactly we're

1205
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: gonna do next week's live stream. It might be before

1206
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: the trip, it might be live from Marlin spring training,

1207
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: but yeah, we appreciate people tuning in. Thank you Jeremiah

1208
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: for keeping me company on this for steering the ship

1209
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: on this podcast and we appreciate everybody's support.

1210
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can.

1211
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: Find all of our coverage at fish on first and again,

1212
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: just two weeks away from real Marlin's baseball returning. Will

1213
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: be plenty occupied between now and then with the WBC

1214
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: and then with the rest of spring training as well.

1215
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: Stick with us, and uh we'll bring you everything you

1216
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: need to know, So yeah, talk to you guys soon.

1217
01:02:44,360 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: As always, go fish