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Jimmy King Down with 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: the King. Jimmy King a member of the Michigan Fab 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: five I. 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: Think Jimmy used to live in the same area where 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: I did. 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: I shued to see him in the supermarket all the 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: time where I lived in suburban Detroit. 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I run to him a few times over the 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: leers obviously with Jalen a lot shout out to Jimmy King. 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: So we'll do that and much more. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Our number two Rob g Michael Jordan had a big 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: sit down conversation with CBS News Gail King. 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: Some interesting stuff came out. 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he spoke a lot about his NASCAR events and 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 5: his you know, addiction to competition, and that kind of 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: fills the void for him. Well, obviously, when you bring 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 5: on Michael Jordan, the greatest of all time, you gotta 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: ask him what it means to be the greatest of 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: all time. If you're an MJ fan, you may or 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 5: may not have been disappointed with his answer. 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Ticulous. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 6: There's no such thing as got you know what I mean? 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 7: Not to me. 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 6: It's only because I think, you know, we are transcended 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 6: from other people, other other athletes, We learn from other athletes, 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 6: We progress the game as you move further to say 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 6: that one is better than the other. 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, Not surprised at all, there's only one guy know 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: who goes to Ronald says he's the goat, and that's 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Lebron James. And it's just typical. It's an indictment. Here's 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Michael could easily pump his chess. I I still sell 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: more sneakers than anybody twenty five years, twenty years later 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: that he does, Like it's not even close. Like I 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: still have this I only played thirteen years. This guy 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: played twenty three years. Like you know, he could make 55 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: the argument if he wants to six NBA Finals championships, 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: six MVPs right in the finals, like on and on 57 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: and on, defensive awards, offensive everything, highest scoring average in 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: the postseason. 59 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: I mean, we could go on and on and on. 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: And I just think that is not surprising to me 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: at all for Michael Jordan because we talk about it 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: all the time. 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: You don't have to say it. That's for other people. 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: And that's why athletes don't get into that, do you 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that's for fans, that's for 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: sports writers, that's for analysts on television to talk about 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: the greatest. That's what we do, right, That's what we do. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: If I heard a player, if Clayton Kershaw said, Oh, 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm the greatest left handed picture. 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: I would look at him, wouldn't you Seriously? You would 71 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: go what? Okay? 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I just there's some humility that goes with it as well. 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: I've always respected Jordan from this standpoint. He does honor 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: the people came before him. 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: Oh, he he really really does. 76 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: At some point, you know, there'll be some twenty five 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: year old sitting in this chair. 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: And maybe the don't remember my radio career. 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, but what if they diss you and 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: they'd be like, oh, no, I'm the go Well, then 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: that's fine, man. You're gonna be in your wheelchair and 82 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: some nursing home like he better. No, I did it 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: forty years, five years. 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna be that guy. 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I admired that about Michael in 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to diss the the other people. 87 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: And just as the game moves forward with the advantages 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: that the players have and all the other you know, 89 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: perks and stuff and masseuses and private planes and all, 90 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: you just wonder if Michael Jordan and the Bulls had all. 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: Of that stuff, you know what I mean, or some 92 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: of these other teams. What would have happened You. 93 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 7: Don't you know what I mean? 94 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: It could have been even greater that they had all 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: these things. But they played during their era, just like 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: the older guys who played. I don't know if you 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: guys have ever wore a pair of converts hurting Chuck 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: Taylor's I. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 4: Had the nerve to wear something the other day around 100 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: Universal Studios walking be crazy, I mean, and I can't 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: he to that. Later, tell me your feet didn't hurt? 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: I told Rob g I said, man, what was I thinking? 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: You you can't wear that? 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: That's for like I'm going out to a restaurant and 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: walk in the car whatever it matches my jeans or whatever, 106 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: and then I'll come back home and take them off. 107 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: That like that's it's walking. 108 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: Oh, I've been through the whole park with girls, daughters 109 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 4: running everywhere. Go over here, let's go over here, walk 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: me over here. That's get some ice cream feet with tabbing. 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: I was looking like a flintstone. 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: But but I think that's something that Lebron can learn 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: from Michael Jordan, And it's just there's a way of 114 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: dealing with it. There's a way of having humility there's 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: a way of you know that. Just I still remember 116 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: that clip in the barbershop and he came back from 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: three to one. 118 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: That's when I knew I was to go. That's what 119 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: he said. 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: He didn't even make the game when it shot like 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and I know they still won, Kyrie he made a block. 122 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Kyrie made the shot right, But just like, that's when 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: I knew I was the game. 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 4: Can I tell you what what it is with Lebron 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: and tell me tell me if this reigns true it all. 126 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: I think one of the things that makes Lebron's claims, 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 4: his proclamations is that he doesn't even feel like he 128 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: doesn't sell you when he says it. 129 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 7: And I think that's one of the things. What I 130 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 7: mean by that is sometimes if you just if you're 131 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 7: just that type. 132 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: Of guy, Dion Sanders, let's talk about the all time 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: greatest in that figure to be literally the greatest of 134 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: all time in Muhammad Ali, if you had conviction behind it, 135 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: if you just made us like, hey, he really believes this, 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: and you walk the walk and you talk to talk 137 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: and even if we didn't agree, we'll be gonna be like, hell, 138 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: I might not agree with Ali, maybe you thought it 139 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: was Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray, Leonard, Mike Tyson, whoever 140 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: you thought it made, Tommy hearns, whoever it may have been. 141 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: You're like man man that the way he says it, 142 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: you kind of be okay with it. 143 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 7: The thing with. 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: Lebron is this often passive aggressive, or he'll backpedal the 145 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: next time, or he'll you know what I mean when 146 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: I was what I really meant was he all misconstrued 147 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: with words. 148 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 7: So I think one thing. 149 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: That would have favorite Lebron is that for he just 150 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: always stood on bit Hey, I don't care, I'm the greatest. 151 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 7: And if he's still on business with it. 152 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: He does a lot of passive aggressive y'all misunderstood, It's 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: not what I meant. They're gonna take my words out 154 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: of context every time he does that. So that let 155 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: me let me first drop that. I'll say this. I 156 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: do think there is something about an era where there 157 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: was a lot of respect. And we know Michael Jordan 158 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: was raised, we know by his parents, we know how 159 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: his mother is. We've read about it, we've heard about it, 160 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: we've seen her in interviews, and when of course we've 161 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: seen the movie, which is a great movie. I think 162 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: it was just called Air Jordan Air. I think it 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: was just Air, really good movie. She plays an instrumental 164 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: role his father, and I think they he was from 165 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: that era where they would. 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 7: Slap you upside the head. If you do that, you 167 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 7: know who else doesn't do that? 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: You covered him for many years, and I think he 169 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: is the greatest Barry Sanders because what did he say? 170 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: His dad will go out of his way when he 171 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: was at Oklahoma State? He ai, he ain't no Sean Brown, 172 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: ain't dd I just go four touchdowns two hundred and 173 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: eighty yards. 174 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 7: He aight, he ain't no watch Peyton. 175 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: And so I think there's an era where like even 176 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: if you think it, you don't necessarily say it all 177 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: the time. And if you may be mentioned at a 178 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: time or two, but you didn't make a concern of effort, 179 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: you paid homage to the elders. And that's where again 180 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: Lebron has paid homage to Jordan. He where's twenty three 181 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: because of Jordan. But I just think he's caught in 182 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: this era. Robert Reh, have you were on it? The 183 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: editions of the cold Pizzas and the high first takes 184 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: and the first things first, and debate shows and social 185 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: media where now these conversations are much louder than just 186 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: simply a barbershop. And I think that's where guys getting 187 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: a lot of trouble is where they're asked questions at 188 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: a rate nobody in history was asked. 189 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 7: They're asked questions, talked about it. 190 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: And I said this, I hear you. It doesn't matter. 191 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say, you could ask me all the 192 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: cot this humility, and I don't care how time you 193 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: asked me. I'm not going to say I'm the greatest 194 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: sports writer broadcaster of all time. 195 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: I just couldn't come out of my mouth no matter 196 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 3: how many times me. 197 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 7: Let me pull down here, now, let me push back 198 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 7: on that. 199 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: Number One, that's not necessarily what we do with sports writing. 200 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: We do do that with athletes, right, he's the best, 201 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 4: he's the best, she's the best. People who people think 202 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: Howard Cosel was the greatest broadcasting No, no, I'm not 203 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: saying it never happens. We don't have debate shows over 204 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: and I think what's transfired over the last twenty years 205 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: is if your athlete X filling the blank, who is 206 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: in this case Lebron I don't know if anybody would 207 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: take the cake more than Lebron. Maybe Tom Brady could 208 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 4: be up there. Every time I turn on the TV, 209 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: it's me, I'm not to go. 210 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 7: You are to go. I'm not to go. You are 211 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 7: to go. 212 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: Who's better on a random summer day when ain't nothing 213 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: happened except middle of the baseball and let's just say 214 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: who Lebron or Jordan? And I think at a certain 215 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: point you're like, no, no, I'm the best, because you 216 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: see it, you're asked. It is debate anytime somebody has 217 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: you on a podcast or a show. So I think 218 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: that's why it comes up more than historically was all 219 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: the time. 220 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: It could come up people talk. I don't know what 221 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: barbershop you went to. There's always debate who's the best boxer, 222 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: who's the best? Is who's the best? 223 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 7: For sure? 224 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 3: All right, forever forever. 225 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you, as that person, have to end 226 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: to that or have to proclaim to yourself in a 227 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: public forum, even if you might believe that, And that 228 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that Michael Jordan deep down on his best, 229 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with his own homies or whatever, 230 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: man or a quiet night by hisself looks at what 231 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: he was able to accomplish the things. Man, I was 232 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: pretty damn good and I did all these things. So 233 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you have to act like you 234 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: didn't do anything, even when he don't. You remember little 235 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Lebron went after they won and where's my damn respect? 236 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: Like, like, I just thought that. 237 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: I'm all right with that one more of the goat 238 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: on the twenty sixteen. I get that people have a 239 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: frustration with that. When I'm okay with that. 240 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 8: I don't. 241 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't have I just what what what validation do 242 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: you need from anybody? 243 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: You just won? 244 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 7: Right? 245 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: But that's a good point, and I think he does. 246 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: You don't need validating I think Lebron does. I think 247 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: Kobe didn't need ours, He needed his own, like I 248 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: did that whatever it was, he would only check himself. 249 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: I played like crap tonight, or I played well and 250 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: we won this thing. I think Lebron does the validation, 251 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: absolutely do, I believe, which is why I think Lebron 252 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: comes off passive aggressive at times, because I think he'll 253 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: say something he might have kind of sort of meant, 254 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: but they look at the reaction and then backpedal and 255 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: then I didn't even like that, whereas other people, Hey, 256 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: I'm the best, I'm the great, Well, what do you 257 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: think about I am the greatest? I don't care Muhammad Ali? 258 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: Well what about I am the greatest? And Lebron does 259 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 4: a lot of that. Well, I mean, I just I 260 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: don't even look at Ali the same way. That was 261 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: selling fights. 262 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: That was like the pre fight stuff that that was 263 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: what they used to do when it wasn't people weren't 264 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: getting eleven or million, fifteen million dollars to have a fight. 265 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: They used to have to sell tickets and drum drums, 266 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: box the greatest. No, no, no, But I'm saying that that, 267 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: to me was a salesmanship that he was great at 268 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: and people love to hear from him. I'm not saying 269 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: he didn't think he was a great fighter. His record 270 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: and all the other things. He lost plenty of times. 271 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Like like, there's a lot of people can make a 272 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: case against him and the rope of dope and getting 273 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: beat and all that. So was he a great iconic 274 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: sports figure? No if and or buts, But a lot 275 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: of people can make a case and he won't the greatest. 276 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 7: But that's my point. 277 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: He was doing was only selling this, And that's what 278 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying is Lebron was like a Deon Sanders. 279 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 7: Ain't nobody better than him. 280 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: I'm probably the best athlete ever'm because you can he's 281 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: owning it, he's having fun, and he's just exactly And 282 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying with Ron, that's why I said I would 283 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 4: be okay, I would like it if he just owned it. 284 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: Don't backpedal, don't make it weird. Just if that's how 285 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: you feel, said own the same. 286 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 7: What's your chest? Lebron be doing that? 287 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: Why I didn't really mean it like that while I 288 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: was only saying it because of this well, I thought 289 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: I was asked this way. If you feel that way, 290 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: I ain't got a problem. If you're feel a froggy leap, 291 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: say it. And another thing, let me ask you this. 292 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: Do you think me and robb g were talking and 293 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: I said this to him? Do you think Jordan, because 294 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: I never had to really tell you, because, like you 295 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, everybody said it, and like if it was 296 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: slightly more in question, do you think he would say 297 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: I have said it or meaning like circa ninety four 298 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: or five is when he was going and kind of 299 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: coming back the greatest, coming back the greatest, and like 300 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: it became a thing where we kind of knew, yes, 301 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: you would have some people whould say lou Al Sender 302 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: Akay Kareem Abdul jabbar Is, but most people were giving 303 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: it to Jordan, so we're I don't have to say nothing, 304 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: where's Lebron because most people are saying, MJ, I'm trying 305 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 4: to sell you on this. You get what I'm saying, Like, 306 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: do you think if it were a little closer with Jordan? 307 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't. I just don't think Jordan 308 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: has that in them. 309 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 7: I really agree. That's why I was asked. 310 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: He's just not like, that's not going to be who 311 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: he is. I just can't see him saying that out. 312 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Of his I think he just wanted to win period, cutthroat. 313 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna win it all costs and let the chips 314 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: fall where they made with all the other stuff. 315 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: And then everybody else, everybody else will talk about that. 316 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: You know the same thing. It's the idea you make 317 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: a movie or whatever, and it's critics and people gonna 318 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: look at it and say one of the greatest movies ever, 319 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: or no, it didn't move me. It was terrible or whatever, 320 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: and you going out to push that or try to 321 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: convince people. I just think it's it's it's a character 322 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: flow to be honest. 323 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 4: That you're That's why I said, I think there's a 324 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 4: validation thing that Lebron has. Oh one thousand percent have 325 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: said that for his entire career. You can tell there's 326 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: a little bit of people pleaser. I want people to 327 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: like me and him that I think you people don't 328 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: necessarily like which day is why they. 329 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 7: Said I wish you had more Kobe more or more 330 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 7: cutthrow more. I don't give a blank in him. I 331 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 7: think that's a real thing, all right. 332 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 333 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine were Michael Jordan's 334 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: comments about the go debate and indictment of Lebron James. 335 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: It is the odd couple where we deliver insight, not 336 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: noise right here on Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington. 337 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 7: Stick and stay unless you're an MJ fan of the USAFA. 338 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 339 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: the nation. 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If you like that or you just 358 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: want to have a good time, well, the Global Gaming 359 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: League is a video game league with celebrity owned teams 360 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: from Tea Pay to Neo competing and everything from Call 361 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: of Duty to Tetris. So make sure you sign up 362 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: and join the league now at Global Gaming League dot com. 363 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: You can do that there all right, Rob eight seven, 364 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: seven ninety nine on Fox tench couple of calls. Michael 365 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: Jordan recently said with Gail King CBS Mornings At he 366 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: said he doesn't really believe in the gold and that 367 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: everybody kind of takes a little bit from each other 368 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: and transcends the game, uh and elevates the game and 369 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: Rob pros. The question is it's an indictment on Lebron, who, 370 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: throughout his tenure has said that he is to go 371 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: from time to time eight seven, seven nine to nine 372 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: on Fox Who we got Let's. 373 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Kick it off with City in Cleveland. You're on the 374 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: couple of Fox Sports Radio. 375 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: What's up City, What's going on? 376 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 9: Man? 377 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 7: I'm doing doing well. 378 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 5: Brother. 379 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 10: Time listen. 380 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 9: I'm gonna tell you all this though. Last time I 381 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 9: called you on a couple of weeks ago and I 382 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 9: went with Rob. But before I said, before I got 383 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 9: on the show, going to get Rob, I started, just 384 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 9: like Kevin said that time, I'm not going I'm coming 385 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 9: for you, Rob. 386 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 11: Michael the jab of Lebron heat he thought of, Uh, 387 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 11: he's talling, definitely sawing a jab Lebron. But you know, 388 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 11: in this their of age, you got Instagram, you got Facebook, 389 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 11: You've got all these different things. I think the times 390 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 11: just changed. Everybody right now in this in this their age, 391 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 11: it's all about me selfies, taking pictures of yourself, getting like, 392 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 11: following people, getting friends. Everything is about uh, you could 393 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 11: do you. 394 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: Could do all that, but but humility doesn't go out 395 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: of style. I'm sorry, and and there's a degree of 396 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: humility that you don't need to do that. And that's 397 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And I'll for to the end of time. 398 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: I don't care what social media you have. And you 399 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: talked about it before. You're raising three daughters when they're 400 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: too high and mighty or they think they right, don't 401 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: you say somebody, as a parent, you let them know. No, 402 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: we don't do that in the Washington household. That's how 403 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: well if. 404 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 4: They were someone Biles and they was talking that talker 405 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: Asia Wilson, I would have a problem with it. By 406 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: the way, dude, what was that? Why was I on 407 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 4: the plane with Giannis? I'm meant to tell you that, Robbie. 408 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: Why was I on the plane where Yanna's going to Syracuse? Well, 409 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: where was I going to? First flight? The Chicago So 410 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 4: maybe the Bulls were there, the Bucks were playing the bulls. 411 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe you had to get back to 412 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: Milwaukee by way. In Chicago, Janni's walking around like he not. 413 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: Yanni's in the airport trying to like duck his head 414 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: a little bit. Maybe they won't recognize me, Yannis, you 415 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: are Yannest. And then on my way back, why am 416 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: I sitting Why is Asia Wilson sitting here the airport? 417 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: I was just cracking up, like, okay, so some basketball 418 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: goats are just hanging. 419 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 7: Around with me. 420 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: Oh when I hang around with me, but just hanging 421 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: around the airport. And then what was she? 422 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: She's in the running Gabe Dion in Texas, you're in 423 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: the couple of Fox Sportudio. 424 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: What's up? 425 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: Dion? 426 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 10: Had a good weekends that serving it? Hey, look man, 427 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 10: last call, I actually stole off my tongue. Think Kelvin's 428 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 10: kind of right. I just think it's the times have changed, 429 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 10: you know. Robers just saying this last week how a 430 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 10: college basketball player and nown't have deserved the right to 431 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 10: go ahead and transfer to getting paid and the coaches 432 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 10: don't have that same uh he did, So you have 433 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 10: to get suck it up if you transferred. But times 434 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 10: have changed. They don't they get money and they get 435 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 10: to play right away. 436 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: But there's only one guy who's doing this. That's why 437 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't buy into it. It's only Lebron, it's only 438 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: it's only game naming somebody else. 439 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: But he's the only one. He's the only one man, 440 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: he's the only one pitted against Kobe. Can't be the 441 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: greatest because you're a carbon copy, so you can't be 442 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: better than the original. 443 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 7: It comes down to Bron. 444 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: So KD can't make an argument. Just passed Jordan the 445 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: other day. Absolutely not okay. 446 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: There's only one person who you can have a legitimate 447 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 4: argument whether you agree that did. 448 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Kareem always pushed back and say, no, it was me. 449 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: I never heard Kareem say that for incident. 450 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 7: Kareem let people know I'm not serious. 451 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: I think he said many times, y'all better stop leaving 452 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 4: me out of these conversations. I don't remember that, but yeah, 453 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 4: so I think that's why I get you. I get 454 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 4: your sentiment. 455 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: But I think every day it's about humility. 456 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: So if somebody was like, who's better you were Kelvin 457 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: every day, what would you say? 458 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 7: Ain't no way? 459 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: He goes, Oh man, I'm just here you know, it's 460 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: just it is what it is. 461 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 7: Everybody brings their own thing. You will be like, what 462 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 7: am I right? 463 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: No, you're not right. 464 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 7: You know. You wouldn't wait for that question. 465 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: They wouldn't even get to the question mark even in 466 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: the question before you would. 467 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Have That is, if they have to ask me to 468 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: ask who is better me or you? Then I don't 469 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: respect their opinion because no, they're the ones who are listening, 470 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: so they're the ones who. 471 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: Have to decide who's better. 472 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 7: Not me. 473 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm all right, you're listening to the show, so you 474 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: should be the one to say who you like better. 475 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: Rob brings more to the table. Rob has hard strong. 476 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 7: Wait what do whoa? 477 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: Whoa? 478 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 7: Whoa whoa? Come on, Michael Jordan, take it easy. I 479 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 7: don't want to hear all that. 480 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 4: I want you to go, Hey, everybody just is I 481 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: don't know all what they would say. Now that's not 482 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: me all right, thanks, I wouldn't say it. That's why 483 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: I had to lebron you and I have to tell 484 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: them I'm the goat. 485 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: That's what I have to do. You like that all right? 486 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: On the way, Jimmy King remember of the Fab five, 487 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: gonna kick it with us? Right now he has Steve 488 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 4: the Seger gonna guess set them with trendy Hey Steve. 489 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 490 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 491 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 492 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: listen live. 493 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 7: All right, join now. 494 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: Jimmy King, Remember of the Michigan Fab five Jimmy King 495 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: twenty four on X. Of course, I was a young 496 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: boy back in an arbor in those days, so I 497 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: mean it meant a lot to me. 498 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 7: Jimmy, what's going on? 499 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 8: Man? 500 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: What's happening? 501 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 8: Jimmy, what's happening? Was happening to Kelvin was having what's 502 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 8: good man? 503 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: We're all enjoying this March madness. We got a little bit, 504 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: got some crazy wins, like you Coon's over Duke. I know, 505 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 4: y'all no love lost with Duke for you guys. But 506 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: what'd you make of that game? 507 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 7: In that ending? 508 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: That was a choke job, Jimmy, I don't see it 509 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: any other way. 510 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 9: Well, you know, it was a great. 511 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 8: Ending for if you're you know, a basketball fan, you know, 512 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 8: having a team go up nearly twenty points and then uh, 513 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 8: just the escalation to the ending, and the way that 514 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 8: it ended was just was just crazy. And that's why 515 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 8: we love March Madness, not you know, not not just 516 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 8: because it was due, but anybody, any team, you know, 517 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 8: that's we love to see the upsets. We love to 518 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 8: see the cinderellas, although we didn't have any really, but uh, 519 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 8: that's that's what it's about, and that's what we love. 520 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: All right. I'm just gonna cut to the chase. 521 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: What's the difference between Dusty May and Juwan Howard? What's 522 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: happened at Michigan where I know Juwan had some good 523 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: start and then things kind of seem to get come 524 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: undone and fall apart and this guy shows up and 525 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: now look where they are. What what's changed? Is it 526 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: personnel or a coaching style or what's changed at Michigan? 527 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 8: Well, a couple of things, you know. I think Juwan, 528 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 8: you know, going through the health issue, he came back 529 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 8: too soon. I think he, uh, this is my opinion, 530 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 8: should have taken that year off, you know, because he 531 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 8: wasn't healthy. But you know, moving forward, a couple of 532 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 8: things changed. When they hired Dusty, who was a great 533 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 8: hire and a great coach. The university committed to n 534 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 8: I L. There was no commitment to N I L 535 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 8: under Juan's uh regime. So when they did that, and 536 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 8: obviously you can see who they went out and got 537 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 8: is one thing and then another. To coach them up them, 538 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 8: to put them together, uh so quickly with them, you know, 539 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 8: really just you know, playing together for for under a year. 540 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 8: That's the difference in what's happening with U. And of 541 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 8: course they're well coached. Your coaching staff is great. I've 542 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 8: met with them, I've been in their practices, you know 543 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 8: many times. I texted with Dusty and others doing the 544 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 8: coaching staff multiple times throughout the year. So you know, 545 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 8: we're full of supporting him and we love seeing what 546 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 8: they're doing. 547 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 9: Uh. 548 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: Let me keep it there in Michigan again, Michigan State 549 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: Tom Mizzo. As we know, Tom Mizzo hasn't won the 550 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: national championship since Moby Dick was a Guppy. But my 551 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: question to you is, Jimmy. 552 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: What like what do you make of the program? 553 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: Okay, he you know, they always say he's missed March, 554 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: but they win championships in April. So I'm trying to 555 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: figure out, how do you look at that program? Seriously, 556 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: he's been twenty six years and that is a one 557 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand. Are you shocked that, you know what 558 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't get back to win another one 559 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: and all these years a quarter century. That's my question, 560 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: are you I don't know he doesn't have the horses. 561 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 8: I shot a little bit that, you know, because I 562 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 8: think he's a great coach. I think, you know, they 563 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 8: have great teams. You know, I just really think it's 564 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 8: that difficult to win. You know, you've seen other coaches, 565 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 8: you know, have multiple championships, go to different teams and 566 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 8: and and do the same thing. I don't think that's 567 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 8: an indictment on you know, coach. 568 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: I mean, but but but this, this is the pushback. 569 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Ollie shows up at ukon. He's there long enough 570 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: to eat a couple to drink a cup of coffee 571 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: and eat a sweet roll. 572 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: And he won the same about it championships as Tom Izzo. 573 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 8: Well, you know, that's that's just how it goes. He 574 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 8: was to say that he had would sniffed another one, 575 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like we don't know. We've 576 00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 8: seen them be successful, like we're watching them being successful currently, 577 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 8: but we don't know under you know, anything to happen, 578 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 8: injuries and maybe you know, he gets pushed back. For 579 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 8: some of these players, we don't know, and so this, 580 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 8: you know, that's just you know, that's it's not speculation. 581 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 8: And coaching is one of the hardest things. Like you know, 582 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 8: when I talk to you know, people out here and 583 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 8: they ask, you know, like, hey, you coach, I was like, 584 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 8: of course I would. But however, that's you know, you 585 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 8: really gotta think about that. You know, you moving your family, 586 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 8: you you know, you're rooting in the community. You could 587 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 8: be coach of the Year and get fired. 588 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 7: So that is true. 589 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 4: We see that all the time in the NBA, right 590 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: Hey for sure. Hey Jimmy King, our guest member of 591 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: Michigan Fab five Woman the Yacap Robin Kelvin on the 592 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: Magic City Monday, let me go here. You you mentioned 593 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 4: you got to show up to Dusty Man and the 594 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 4: cruise Uh practices. How great does that feel for you 595 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: guys to be back? Man, Like I said, I grew 596 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: up in an arbor. I saw you guys rooting for 597 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: you guys, and then all of a sudden, uh, the 598 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 4: sanctions and all that, and it's just a bad broken relationship. 599 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: For years and now you know, however, it's been as 600 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: long as been. We see you back, We see Jalen 601 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: Juwan was the coach, and see Webb is pulling up 602 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 4: and Ray and all that good stuff. So how great 603 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 4: has that been? Or just for you guys to be 604 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: able to be back a part of it in the 605 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: relationship you all have with them. 606 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 8: Now, this is great and and and I think this 607 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 8: is this is one thing that a lot of people 608 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 8: may not really know about us, is that we really 609 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 8: love Michigan. And so you know, it's not we're not 610 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 8: showing up because they're having a great season. You know, 611 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 8: we want to show up to show that we actually 612 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 8: support them, and because if we didn't, then that would 613 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 8: be a whole other speculation or you know, a whole 614 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 8: other conversation. But but really though, that's the reason why 615 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 8: we went there. We love the block in, we love 616 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 8: the culture, we love what it represents, we love the education, 617 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 8: We love of that. That is what separated us in 618 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 8: armand and and and and one thing too is that 619 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 8: everybody don't go to Michigan. You got to qualify. That's 620 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 8: one thing that you know, you know, Juwan had some 621 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 8: some players that were coming. They were actually here but 622 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 8: couldn't qualify and they ended up going to other schools. 623 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 8: So it's it's you know, that prestige, that that prestige 624 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 8: and that you know that honor is is something that 625 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 8: you know is a part of of the legacy that 626 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 8: we want to be a part of in league. 627 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: How about the Fab five to me? 628 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: You know, I remember talking to Perry Watching on the 629 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: radio in Detroit and I just stony thought he got me, 630 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: like a got you moment, and was like, Rob doesn't 631 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: think the Fab five was great? 632 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: And Perry Watches said, we weren't. We never won. You 633 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: guys didn't win a Big ten title. 634 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: You didn't win You went to two championship games the 635 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: first two, you know, first two years. When you look 636 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: back at that, don't you feel like, man, like one 637 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: of tholse you should have won, you could have won two. 638 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: That was one of the am I right, like like 639 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: there's just something missing. 640 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 8: There with the absolutely like you absolutely no Big ten, 641 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 8: Like we had an opportunity to win a Big ten 642 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 8: our junior year and lost at home to We're Doue 643 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 8: and then on the road to the Northwestern Like that 644 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 8: was the worst. Yeah, you know, like feelings ever and 645 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 8: then to go to the championship and to lose, uh, 646 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 8: you know to Duke, you know, like really feeling like, 647 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 8: you know, we're upholding you know, the culture and the 648 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 8: you know, the the you know, the way that the 649 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 8: basketball movement is kind of going with U N O. 650 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 8: V and and and against Duke, and now it's our turn. 651 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 8: And then we lose to Duke, and then we get 652 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 8: the opportunity again and then we lose to North Carolin lineup, 653 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 8: who we beat earlier that year for the Honolulu Tournament championship. 654 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 8: So yeah, it sticks with you. You you know, I 655 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 8: wouldn't say that we weren't great. You know, we were 656 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 8: we were good. You know, we weren't the greatest, but 657 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 8: you know we we did play those games. We beat 658 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 8: a lot of teams, and we represented that that university 659 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 8: well throughout this world and still today. 660 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 7: We'll tell you what, it was a blast to watch. 661 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 8: Man. 662 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 7: All the best to you, Jimmy for sure. 663 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 8: As always, I appreciate y'all. 664 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: Man night love, no doubt, all right, Jimmy King, Jimmy 665 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 4: King twenty four there for him, Go ahead, give him 666 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: a follow, uh And some NBA news A player has 667 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: been released from his team, speaking out and talking his 668 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: religion and some other things. 669 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 7: We'll tell you who and why is the couple. 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Man, 680 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: that was pretty cool. You can get that up on 681 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 4: the pod. Rob G will get that up in a minute. 682 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: Don't let employee turnover slow down business, Express employment professionals, 683 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: fines of talent. You need to keep productivity on track 684 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: from the warehouse to the front office. 685 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 7: Express staffs all jobs. 686 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 4: Visit expresspros dot com today and now at it's time 687 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 4: for the Express Proproek. The Prolowek goes to Celtics forward 688 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown. Jason Tatum. I'm sorry, Jason Tatum not Jalen Brown, 689 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: no Derek White, no problem. Tato had thirty two points 690 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: eight assists on Sunday to win over the Hornets again. 691 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: Congrat to Jason Tatum for being our Express pro of 692 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: the week. 693 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 7: Got a good one going on right now. 694 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: Just started the second half fifty nine to fifty eight, Celtics. 695 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 7: Up one on the Hawks in Atlanta. So good one 696 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 7: going on there, all right. 697 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: Some NBA news as well, Rob g someone released from 698 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: the Bulls, Jade and Ivy to be specific, for some 699 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: conversations and thoughts that he had on his I believe 700 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: his IG page, Yes, sir, and. 701 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 5: What's officially been called conduct detrimental to the team. The 702 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 5: Bulls have waivedguard Jaden Ivy, former Piston in light of 703 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 5: some recent comments he made about the NBA celebrating Pride 704 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 5: Month on his IG live take a. 705 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 12: Listener that the world can proclaim LGBTQ, right, they have. 706 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 12: They proclaimed Pride Month, and the NBA they proclaim it. 707 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 12: They show it to the world. They say, come, come, 708 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 12: come join us for pride, for Pride Month, to celebrate unrighteousness. 709 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: Action. 710 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Mari actually is first, first and foremost. 711 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: I think we would be having a good slightly different conversation. 712 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 4: If Jade n Ivy was an all star for the Bulls, 713 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: I think the Bulls would say, oh, je n Ivy, 714 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: we didn't agree with his comments, we're gonna chat with him, 715 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: and we understand, we respect face. 716 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 7: We just wish that. 717 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah. I absolutely think you would get that. 718 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: And JV n Ivy was giving you twenty two to 719 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: twenty three a night, and he was an all star 720 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: for them. 721 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 7: This is not the case. You know what Javi and 722 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 7: Ivy's been doing. 723 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: He ain't played since mid February, and so I think 724 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: this makes an easy way for them that they got 725 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: a little they got some backlash, and then for them 726 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: to be like, all right, cool, it's easy to get 727 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: rid of him. So that's the first part of it 728 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 4: I heard immediately. Now the other side of this is 729 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: when you are proclaiming your faith. You already know I 730 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 4: proclaim my faith as a Christian man. But when you 731 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: go out and you speak and you do things like this, 732 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: whether people agree or not, you have to be prepared 733 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: for consequences. Absolutely, freedom of speech, you can say what 734 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: you want, but when you have employers that have a 735 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: little far down and says misconduct rules and things that 736 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: are detrimental to the team with an organization, that is 737 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: something they may use or they may not. But and 738 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: so my last point so that is you have to 739 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: be prepared. I use the example all the time of 740 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick when he stood on business. A lot of 741 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 4: people agree with them, a lot of Americans were with them, 742 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: some people weren't. And the consequences when you stand on 743 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: it are Muhammad Ali, you can't box do you end up? 744 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's outrageous, but that's what happened Colin Kaepernick. 745 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: The league is like, all right, we're gonna do this, 746 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 4: We're gonna do that. And sometimes when you're standing on 747 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 4: what you believe in, you have to then realize there 748 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: may also be consequences with that. But a lot of 749 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 4: people are saying, we're happening to freedom of speech both 750 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 4: ways in this. 751 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: But here's the argument there is freedom of speech is 752 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: only against the government. That you can't speak out against 753 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: the government and not be put in jail. That that's 754 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: your freedom. You don't have freedom of speech when you 755 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: work for people. So can we stop with the freedom 756 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: of speed, right, It's not true, that's not what you're 757 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: protected by. 758 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 7: No, you dope, no, but. 759 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: There's no protection. 760 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling against the government, there's a protection, but not 761 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: when you work for somebody else. I'm not surprised he's 762 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: not playing. The last thing you want is a distraction 763 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: for what reason? And yet doesn't mean that you disagree 764 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: with something or you have your own faith. But it 765 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to go and bash other people. 766 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. That's not what you 767 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: choose to do. If you don't want to celebrate pride, 768 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to celebrate pride. 769 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: Nobody's making you celebrate pride. But my only issue is people. 770 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: When you work for other people and you have he 771 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: has Chicago across his chest at an NBA logo, when 772 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: you sign that paper to work for them, guess what 773 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: you knew? Anything that's going to interrupt bother, destroy, damage 774 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: those logos and things that you have agreed to sign for. 775 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: But this, and this goes just how it goes back 776 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 4: to the Magic City conversation. And this is why I 777 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 4: sat here and said, I'm shocked that the NBA would 778 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 4: be okay with that, because again, plenty of people part 779 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: plenty of people enjoy it. Clearly, I've been Atlanta becauzillion times. 780 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: I know how people love Magic City. But my point was, 781 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 4: is an NBA at the end of the day, it 782 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 4: was a strip club, and you could have fans and 783 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: families who are saying, I'm offended by that. So this is, 784 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: you know, I can see why again, when the NBA 785 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 4: is trying to protect themselves and trying it, or teams 786 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: in this case, the bulls trying to protect themselves, they're 787 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 4: gonna do that. 788 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 7: But again, he. 789 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 4: Put out there how he felt and they can respond 790 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: how they were going to respond. But it would have 791 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 4: been if he was an All Star. I don't think 792 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: they would have responded the same way.