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Speaker 3: Normally we start things off with something we'd like to

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Speaker 3: call first Off, and I play this awesome SoundBite and

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Speaker 3: there's like a Mario Kart Let's go type thing going on,

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Speaker 3: but I'll just get right into it. Uh, Duke Duke

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Speaker 3: did it? They went full Dukie And I don't mean

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Speaker 3: welcome to Paradise by green Day. Like the people seeing

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Speaker 3: Paradise right now are Duke haters. They are getting off

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Speaker 3: to this Duke loss like bite my lip and close

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Speaker 3: mys take me wait to Paradise. If you don't know

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Speaker 3: what that song is about, that's from Longview, like right beforehand,

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Speaker 3: the Blue Devils. They might be used to being in hell,

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Speaker 3: but typically they rule it. That's not happening. Currently, the

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Speaker 3: Boozer is gonna be doing some boozing tonight as all

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Speaker 3: Duke fans are. The hell's wrong with you? Duke Dickie

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Speaker 3: V didn't beat Cancer's ass for this. He's an inspiration.

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Speaker 3: Love him. Cor mcghetty didn't do that front flip in

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Speaker 3: the dunk contests and then have those twenty four inch

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Speaker 3: pythons to distract you from the fact he couldn't shoot

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Speaker 3: a jumper. For Duke to lose like this. Shane Battier

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Speaker 3: didn't get those grooves on his head for this kind

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Speaker 3: of helped him line up the ball more I think

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Speaker 3: on threes Elton Brand he didn't step aside as the

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Speaker 3: GM of the sixers for Darryl Morey to come in

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Speaker 3: and take it, make it worse for this. Bobby Hurley

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Speaker 3: didn't get into that car and drive for this. It's

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Speaker 3: a cautionary tale. It's a good reminder for all of us.

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Speaker 3: You think he's happy, Bobby Hurley because his brother beat Duke.

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Speaker 3: It's his brother winning, but also his school lost. Christian Latner,

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Speaker 3: he didn't become another nineties white guy with a great

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Speaker 3: college career that was a bust in the NBA for this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he did make one All Star team for the Atlanta Hawks.

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Speaker 3: That actually did happen. JJ Reddick. He didn't write those

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Speaker 3: wraps and dye his hair jet black, kind of like

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Speaker 3: a bizarro eminem for this. And I didn't pick them

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Speaker 3: to win my bracket for this to happen. As soon

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Speaker 3: as I walk in, Shane was like, how's your bracket?

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Speaker 3: And I respoted with f you. That's how it is.

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Speaker 3: My bracket's cooked. We use a certain sound from The

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Speaker 3: Walking Dead for a long time that I don't think

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Speaker 3: I can play right now, but we'll get to it

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Speaker 3: a little bit later when your bracket explodes like alder

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Speaker 3: On and Star Wars. That's what happened to mine. At

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Speaker 3: least they made it to the lead eight. I didn't

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Speaker 3: have him losing in like the second round or something.

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Speaker 3: But this isn't about This is about Caden Boozer just

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Speaker 3: needing to hold onto the ball and wait for Yukon

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Speaker 3: to foul him up to with seconds remaining, or is it?

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Speaker 3: Well everyone else is blaming little Boozer, and the young

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Speaker 3: man did take the blame himself postgame and said quote,

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Speaker 3: I should have been strong with the basketball and it

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Speaker 3: cost our team our season. It did, But maybe it

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Speaker 3: wasn't on him. Well, I heard his coach, John Shire

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Speaker 3: say postgame, you know it's not one play that lost

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Speaker 3: us a nineteen point lead. It was everything leading up

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Speaker 3: also said, quote, you just have to secure it, right,

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Speaker 3: We got it. They had to foul. I was ready

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Speaker 3: for a time out. We just had to hold on.

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Speaker 3: That's simple, right, That's what he said. But you know

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Speaker 3: what the SYNCD up video looks like. During that play,

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Speaker 3: John Shire told Cayden Boozer to make the pass. Watch

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Speaker 3: the video. He was motioning to Kayden to throw it

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Speaker 3: court without a Husky in sight. Now he can say, quote,

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Speaker 3: we just got to have to secure the basketball. All

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Speaker 3: he wants. He was coaching his player to throw the

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Speaker 3: ball ahead. So when you crush Kaden Boozer for the

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Speaker 3: turnover leading to Raylan Mules three pointer, the logo three,

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Speaker 3: you just know that's what his coach instructed him to do.

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Speaker 3: They got greedy because they knew. They knew that if

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Speaker 3: that pass goes over the two defenders trapping if it

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Speaker 3: goes over their heads. The game is definitely over. Well

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Speaker 3: it was not, man, Yeah, it is just a game now.

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Speaker 3: I think Caden's thought process was he was trying to

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's got the clutch gen he's

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Speaker 3: a freshman. But you can keep the champagne on ice

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Speaker 3: Blue Devil fans, because you haven't won a national championship

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Speaker 3: for over ten years now. It's been since twenty fifteen. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're head coach John Shires in the

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Speaker 3: same bucket as Hubert Davis and should be fired.

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Speaker 5: You're out, but.

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Speaker 3: That blue pitchfork is definitely on his ass now. That loss, well,

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Speaker 3: it's on coaching. If you look into the details, they

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Speaker 3: lost this game in the possession battle. Listen to this

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Speaker 3: for my friend law Murray, who's coming up next hour

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Speaker 3: from the Athletic Basketball Expert knows it all offensive rebounds

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Speaker 3: in the game, Yukon had thirteen. Duke had ten different

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Speaker 3: to three turnovers in the game. Yukon had five. Duke

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Speaker 3: had thirteen. We're talking about plus eleven in the possession battle,

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Speaker 3: is what Yukon went in this game. To eventually win

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Speaker 3: by one point, they needed every extra possession they could get,

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Speaker 3: and Duke gave it to him, including that last one

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Speaker 3: to Mullins for that three ball, and that was the

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Speaker 3: thing of beauty. And he hadn't hit one all night shooter.

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Speaker 3: All right, here's Duke's last three tournament losses. Now, So

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Speaker 3: they blew a nineteen point lead tonight, that was kind

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Speaker 3: of rough. Before that, they made one field goal in

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Speaker 3: the final ten minutes, led by fourteen with eight minutes left,

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Speaker 3: by six with one minute left, and lost to Houston.

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Speaker 3: Before that, they lost to an eleven seed NC State

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Speaker 3: by twelve as a seven point favorite. Then in just

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Speaker 3: their last four losses total going back to the regular

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Speaker 3: Well, let's see, they led by fourteen against Houston. Last

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Speaker 3: year in the final four, they blew that. They led

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Speaker 3: led by thirteen against UNC and lost. And now they

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Speaker 3: led by nineteen against Yukon in the Elite eight and lost.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing the pattern here? They only lost four

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Speaker 3: games in a year and all of them were from

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Speaker 3: blown leads. In the end, the kids are playing a tailor.

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Speaker 3: Hundred counts are.

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Speaker 5: Screwing it up.

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Speaker 3: That's coaching. John Shire might want to go back to

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Speaker 3: the Shire. This Lord of the Rings journey not for him.

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Speaker 3: He ain't getting at the top of Mount Doom One.

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Speaker 3: Seeds were one hundred and thirty four and zero when

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Speaker 3: leading by fifteen or more at the half in the

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Speaker 3: history of the NCAA tournament until now. Duke they were

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Speaker 3: twenty seven to zero as a program when leading by

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Speaker 3: we joke about how this is a typical Duke choke job,

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Speaker 3: make no mistake about it. This was their disaster piece.

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Speaker 3: This was a master class in a collapse. This is

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Speaker 3: the worst they've ever blown it, by far, in the

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Speaker 3: history of the program. Now, when something like this happens,

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Speaker 3: as Ben Maller would say, I mean, Adam Ashley, the

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Speaker 3: story is in the losing locker room. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: put it a little bit differently. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: the locker room for postgame sound. The story here to

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Speaker 3: me is really from Duke's home broadcast booth, the call

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Speaker 3: from the Dukie Homerge radio network that we have here

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Speaker 3: of the eventual collapse in meltdown.

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Speaker 6: Listen to this hit it in they do for Boozer,

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Speaker 6: of it Dounser Kaiden seven seconds trying to throw it ahead,

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Speaker 4: That should be a.

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Speaker 6: Technical Oh with three tenths of a second ago. Connecticut

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Speaker 6: got the three from Mullins. After the turnover from Caden,

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Speaker 6: Boozer hit Laurina.

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Speaker 3: Can we just play that one more time and I'll

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Speaker 3: cut it off eventually here, But I want people to

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Speaker 3: focus in on one thing, he says, because this is

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Speaker 3: the most on brand Duke call of all time.

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Speaker 2: And they do.

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Speaker 6: For Boozer, followed it back for Sarron needs to get

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Speaker 6: throw it ahead deflected stolen by Connecticut two seconds.

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Speaker 4: It's Mullin's up top for the win. Oh he hit

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Speaker 6: Of a second ago.

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Speaker 4: Cayle Kai Smith ran off the bench.

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Speaker 3: That should be a technical alright, mel Guy Smith ran

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Speaker 3: off the bench. This is the most on brand duke

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Speaker 3: moment ever. The immediate reflex there by the broadcasters to

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Speaker 3: try to I went out. A Yukon player was on

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Speaker 4: Cali Kai Smith ran off the bench. That should be

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Speaker 3: As if in March Madness, as we're hitting the peak

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Speaker 3: the officials should give that guy a technical for leaving

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Speaker 3: the bench after one of the biggest shots in tournament

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Speaker 3: history just went down. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: This isn't some.

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Speaker 3: Letter of the law Commissioner Stern coming in and suspending

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Speaker 3: Amari stodameiern Boris diaw to screw over the suns twenty

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Speaker 3: years ago. This is pitiful. This is a whiney plea

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Speaker 4: Cali Kai Smith ran off the bench.

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Speaker 3: Look at the bitch the bench.

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Speaker 4: Cali Kai Smith ran off the bench.

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Speaker 3: That's the most duke thing ever. He wants some technicality

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Speaker 3: to save them with a technical free throw, I guess

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Speaker 3: to win it. This is the most sore loser cry

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Speaker 3: for help I've ever heard.

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Speaker 4: Kai Smith ran off the bench.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna save you. Take your loss with some dignity,

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Speaker 3: have some shame, show some class in a way I

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Speaker 3: won't because I am obviously going to point to this

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Speaker 3: and play it over and over again until the end

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Speaker 4: Cayle Kai Smith ran off the bench. That should be

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Speaker 4: a technical I.

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Speaker 3: Put it in the machine already tonight. I had to duke.

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Speaker 3: There is no escape. You don't get to cry about

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Speaker 3: some stupid rule which had nothing to do with the

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Speaker 3: turnover and the logo three that beats you. You can't

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Speaker 3: weasel your way out and cheat death on a technicality.

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Speaker 3: The tournament grim Reaper. It already got you now, Duke.

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Speaker 3: In their last five NCAA tournaments, I mean, they've been brutal,

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Speaker 3: but to try to blame it and try to get

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Speaker 4: Cale Kai Smith ran off the bench.

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Speaker 3: No one's buying it. Chris Paul would be like known

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Speaker 9: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this late night here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 8: if they weren't able to pull that game out against

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Speaker 8: the Heat and they are two games over five hundred,

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Speaker 8: they lose. He doesn't play for three weeks. He comes back,

439
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Speaker 8: the team is in shambles. We heals out for the year.

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Speaker 8: Veterans who were added to the team were in and

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Speaker 8: out the rotation. Derrek Jones Junior was in the first

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Speaker 8: of two multi week mcl springs, so a lot a

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Speaker 8: lot had to happen. And then even when Kawhi came back,

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Speaker 8: he probably came back a little early and was in

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Speaker 8: a minute restriction that really wasn't allowing him to help

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Speaker 8: the Clippers actually win these games consistently. And he's done

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Speaker 8: nothing but put in the work on his body, on

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Speaker 8: his game. He's not just producing, but he's doing it

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Speaker 8: in ways that he hadn't done it before. And he's

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Speaker 8: dealing with players teammates that he hadn't done before, not

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Speaker 8: just in the form of new guys like Darius Garland,

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Speaker 8: and then after anything, also younger players like Jordan Miller

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Speaker 8: and Kobe Sanders who weren't exactly assets in November, but

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Speaker 8: they became assets over the course of the winner, and

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Speaker 8: so it's a huge credit to Kawhi, it's a credit

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Speaker 8: to his basketball ability, it's a credit to to his

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Speaker 8: place in the organization that he's been able to play

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Speaker 8: as well as he has and he's not done yet.

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Speaker 3: Lomra is our guest from the Athletic at Lot Murray.

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Speaker 3: The U is where you finds him on x LO.

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Speaker 3: I talked about it a little bit earlier and played

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Speaker 3: a clip from Kawhi from last year and Wemby I

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Speaker 3: think recently talking about how it's not bad defense in

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Speaker 3: the NBA, it's better offense. Do you feel the same way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: When I look at the NBA, guys talked about how

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Speaker 8: much more they would like to be physical within the

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Speaker 8: confines of the rules. And when I look at the

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Speaker 8: playoffs and I listen to people complain every winner. Just

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Speaker 8: for those complaints to move the goalposts every spring, because

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Speaker 8: in the spring you get locked in good NBA players

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Speaker 8: who are playing with the kind of urgency that comes

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Speaker 8: with every single loss being a loss. That's as you

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Speaker 8: closer to the end of your season, when you have expectations,

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Speaker 8: when you've bom through a lot and you know these

476
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Speaker 8: teams to take away with these really good players do

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Speaker 8: well offensively their complex schemes, like a lot of dudes

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Speaker 8: on they couch could not operate and execute what these

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Speaker 8: teams are being asked to do. That's just to take

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Speaker 8: away a star, but to take away an entire approach

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Speaker 8: to scoring. Like, guys just know that you know you

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Speaker 8: can play great defense, and you have to switch it up.

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Speaker 8: Guys are going to make tough shots. Guys are going

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Speaker 8: to find their teammates and make the game easier on them.

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Speaker 8: So the game has gotten to a point again, I'm

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Speaker 8: old enough to remember when certain players were You've watched them,

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Speaker 8: and you've watched their stats, and it's like you're respecting

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Speaker 8: us pro ball players, But they weren't they they If

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Speaker 8: you take that those same players and put them in

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Speaker 8: today's game day struggle, you know, like the three point line.

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Speaker 8: I don't think these guys are better shooters. I think

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Speaker 8: there are just more guys who can shoot at a

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Speaker 8: league average level. I think that's the difference. You know,

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Speaker 8: I think you have coaches who, instead of thinking the

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Speaker 8: three pointer is a bad shot, they're thinking, how can

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Speaker 8: we weaponize the three pointer to get what we really

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Speaker 8: want which is in the paint. And again, like back

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Speaker 8: in the day, you had a slower game, the spacing

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Speaker 8: wasn't emphasized, and even if it was emphasized, guys didn't

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Speaker 8: make you pay for it nearly as much. I mean,

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Speaker 8: now you have to guard all the positions everywhere on

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Speaker 8: the floor, a faster game, and guys are just more skilled.

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Speaker 8: Like you know, big guys are coming in euro accepting

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Speaker 8: small guys are screening and rolling in the space. You

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Speaker 8: have multiple playmakers from different positions, so like that is

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Speaker 8: that is a skill. Things increase in skill and increase

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Speaker 8: and imagine nation and I think you have to start there.

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Speaker 8: And I respect the teams that can consistently take that

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Speaker 8: stuff away better than the other teams too.

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Speaker 3: How much of a problem is taking in your mind?

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Speaker 3: Is the NBA on the right track with fixing it?

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Speaker 3: Does it need to be fixed?

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Speaker 8: The NBA is always going to be on the wrong

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Speaker 8: track because they keep taking a big deal out of it.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 8: I think that the relativity you see from a lot

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Speaker 8: of these teams is because of two things. One, yeah,

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Speaker 8: the draft is pretty enticing. You know, there's a chance

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Speaker 8: that there's a lot of difference makers in this draft.

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Speaker 8: But also a lot of these teams are up, like

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Speaker 8: there are teams that don't have the same draft capital

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Speaker 8: next year, like it's donated to another team or you know,

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Speaker 8: they got to make decisions, and all the guys that

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Speaker 8: they have, they have guys who are ready to ascend.

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Speaker 8: Like I look at Utah's ross next year, and I'm like,

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Speaker 8: those guys are going to be ready to at least

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Speaker 8: compete a little bit longer than you know, December. Same

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Speaker 8: thing with Washington, like they've been bad long enough, and

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Speaker 8: now they got two guys in Trey Young and Anthony

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Speaker 8: Davis who I wouldn't trust them individually, but together, if

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Speaker 8: those guys can put some games together, you know, the

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Speaker 8: floor is the middle of the conference. And so I

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Speaker 8: really feel like the league gets to a point where

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Speaker 8: all these people covering the league and consuming the league,

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Speaker 8: they wind up talking about stuff that doesn't have to

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Speaker 8: do with basketball. You know, they think that a team

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Speaker 8: is not allowed to be bad, and so you know,

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Speaker 8: a blowout between a team that's bad as a bad

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Speaker 8: record and a team that has a good record, two

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Speaker 8: teams with bad records, and you get some shenanigans. They

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Speaker 8: think because it's available to watch that it should be eliminated.

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Speaker 8: It's like, you're never going to eliminate that. So I

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Speaker 8: appreciate the lead paying lip service, but you'll never get

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Speaker 8: me to take it seriously.

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Speaker 3: I still understand why people think Jay Huff intentionally missed

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Speaker 3: those two free throws against the Clippers there, and I

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Speaker 3: it's like, wait a second, he flopped to try to

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Speaker 3: get to the free throw line. He could have just

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Speaker 3: lost the game right then and not flopped, Like why

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Speaker 3: is he trying to extend the game at all?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Juff definitely didn't have no money on that game.

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Speaker 8: That's for damn Shore, like they cared about that game.

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Speaker 8: Like Jay Huff, he was tying his shoe in the

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Speaker 8: middle of the game and Courtney Kirkley gave the Balti

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Speaker 8: ka while Leonard a side out of bounds, brook wils

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Speaker 8: Has hit the three and Brooks just laughing figure down

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Speaker 8: the court.

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Speaker 11: Jay was upset.

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Speaker 8: Aaron need Smith ascalzy and they're like, what is happening?

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Speaker 8: You know, like as a as a certain coach texted me,

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Speaker 8: it's a little different when you stepped to the free

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Speaker 8: throw line and you got that much waying when you

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Speaker 8: with the game on the line like that, So you know, uh,

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Speaker 8: Jay missed the first and he Mississippi. I don't it's

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Speaker 8: convenient to say that it was a tanking endeavor. But

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Speaker 8: look at the rest of the games the Pacers played

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Speaker 8: this week. Like they lost sixteen in a row. They

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Speaker 8: beat the hell out of the Magic. They did fall

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Speaker 8: down big against the Lakers, but they kept playing and

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Speaker 8: whoever gambled on that game probably upset about how that

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Speaker 8: game turned out. They were up big on the Clippers,

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Speaker 8: and even when they blew the league like, they continue

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Speaker 8: to play well enough to give himself a chance to win.

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Speaker 8: And then they turn around and on Sunday they absolutely

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Speaker 8: whipped the Miami Heat, another team that has a lot

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Speaker 8: to play for right now and really could have used

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Speaker 8: that win. They annihilate them. And you know who had

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Speaker 8: a big performance in the fourth quarter is Jay Huff.

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Speaker 8: Jay didn't play in the first half on Sunday and

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Speaker 8: then fourth forty played the entire fourth quarter. A close

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Speaker 8: game ain't going in the fourth quarter, and Jay pretty

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Speaker 8: much closed out helped close the Heat out. So again,

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Speaker 8: it gets wacky in the NBA. There's a lot of

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Speaker 8: conspiracy theory the way this season began with a couple

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Speaker 8: of scandals like his people reason to have that on

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Speaker 8: their mind. And unfortunately, the NBA is a pretty reactionary league,

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Speaker 8: so they let these things go out of control with

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Speaker 8: how the league and how the game is talked about

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Speaker 8: instead of putting the focus on real good players and

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Speaker 8: real good teams. And by the way, again that's the

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Speaker 8: league's fault. They let the broadcasters talk about like five

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Speaker 8: teams and they keep talking about guys racted in the

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Speaker 8: two thousands. Is the face of the league, and there

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Speaker 8: are other players and other teams that they you know,

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Speaker 8: want to wait and see it in golf platform. So

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Speaker 8: it is what it is. Hopefully it gets better in

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Speaker 8: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Lastly, lot quickly here I'm going to talk about in

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Speaker 3: the final hour. But did we learn anything from Scottie

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Speaker 3: Pippen doing the Mister Pip commercial or Isaiah tom talking

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Speaker 3: about KD would have won six rings if you was

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Speaker 3: on those bulls teams too. When it comes to the

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Speaker 3: goat debate this week, I.

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Speaker 8: Think a lot of feelings would hurt me. Michael Jordan

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Speaker 8: at the top of this game, I'll leave it at dead.

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Speaker 3: He is La Murray of the Athletic at La Murray

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Speaker 3: and you is where you find Tim Covers teams here

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Speaker 3: in southern California in nationwide.

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Speaker 10: Low.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you joining me here on Fox Sports Radio tonight,

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Speaker 3: my friend. I know it was late night, but I

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Speaker 3: know you're always working too, so I don't know if

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Speaker 3: this was a break or more work for you, but

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Speaker 3: I love you man. Thanks for doing it.

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Speaker 8: Oh my life are going out right now. I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna get ready for this week. Thank you having there.

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Speaker 3: It goes La Murray, I am the law.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller

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Speaker 3: Lee in Florida.

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Speaker 10: What's up, Well, thank thanks for taking my call. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 10: I was just listening to the guy talk about the

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Speaker 10: eighty four eighty five you know, College of Basketball, which

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Speaker 10: always comes up every year anyway, But anyway, what I

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Speaker 10: was trying to compare to talk about in those memory days,

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Speaker 10: you've got the Arizona Wildcats now going again in the

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Speaker 10: Final four and back in the late eighties. I don't

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Speaker 10: think it was eighty four eighty five, but it was

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Speaker 10: in the late eighties, just shortly after that. That the

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Speaker 10: Arizona Wildcats were ranked number one from like day one

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Speaker 10: moment one, and they ended up was only having like

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Speaker 10: one loss throughout the season. And then they went to

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Speaker 10: the conference tournaments and they blew the first game because

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Speaker 10: the guy wouldn't even play the starting five and he

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Speaker 10: was already in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 8: He just they lost the first game of the conference tournament.

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Speaker 3: And is this Sean Miller? Who was this?

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure who the coach was. I can't remember

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Speaker 10: the coach, but he was. He was a long time

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Speaker 10: Arizona Wildcats coach, you know, for many many many years.

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Speaker 10: Probably the best coach Arizona Wildcats ever had. But anyway,

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Speaker 10: uh he just like I say, in those days, the

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Speaker 10: conference turnams was not like it was today. But that

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Speaker 10: changed because they lost that first game of the conference

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Speaker 10: tournament and said, well we're going no matter what happens

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Speaker 10: in the tournament, We're going to the NCAA Tournament because

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Speaker 10: we're number one, you know, in the whole nation.

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Speaker 5: And uh so that changed.

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Speaker 10: The whole conference turns out to where we have today.

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Speaker 10: Now you have the bracket and you have to buy

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Speaker 10: the best teams that have a buy in you know,

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Speaker 10: they don't they don't play in the first round of

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Speaker 10: the conference tournaments. So that that changed that whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're probably talking about lout Olsen, right, that's it,

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Speaker 3: that's the guy. Okay, Yeah, pretty damn good coach. Well,

656
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Speaker 3: what's your central point here, though, Lee, You're just going

657
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Speaker 3: down memory lane?

658
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Speaker 10: Was this? Well, no, no, no, I'll comparing it to

659
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 10: the Wildcats today. Now here they are, you know, right

660
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Speaker 10: number one, you know in the brackets, you know, and

661
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 10: and so you know, don't you know, don't be surprised

662
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 10: of this Yukon win, and and and you know this

663
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Speaker 10: this the Wildcats are still in that same kind of

664
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Speaker 10: type mode. You know, it's all about the NCAA tournament.

665
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Speaker 10: And Duke was just not up for it with this game.

666
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 10: You know, they had already put their sites past well,

667
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Speaker 10: to be fairly.

668
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: Duke almost lost their first game. Duke was hanging on

669
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Speaker 3: in their opening round game. Duke looked a little bit fraudulent,

670
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: a little bit shook initially. So I'm not surprised that

671
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: the Dukies blew another ball game right.

672
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Speaker 4: Off the bed.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and and and you know, and and like you said,

674
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 10: my final thing was done that year that that the

675
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 10: Wildcats already put past getting into the NCAA tournament. They

676
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 10: did not do well. That frazzled them, you know, to

677
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 10: he thought he was doing the right thing by Steve

678
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 10: and the players and being ready for the tournament.

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Speaker 3: But you know they were Actually it's the old question

680
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: Rest versus RUSS. They weren't as battle tested. Then I

681
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: get it. I get where you're going, Lee. I think

682
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Speaker 3: it's a good point. I appreciate the phone call.

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Speaker 5: My friend.

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Speaker 10: Be good.

685
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: Let's go to David. Call him from Kansas. David, you're

686
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Speaker 3: on the Ben Mallor Show with at Aam awsloin filling in.

687
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: What's up date?

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Speaker 8: Hello?

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Speaker 11: Hello, Yeah, I just wanted to tell you, Adam, that

690
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 11: I have recently discovered five seventy out there in California.

691
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 11: I live in Kingess, Okay. And I had never heard

692
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 11: you before, but I think you're just great on the radio,

693
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 11: and I hope you get to be heard more. And

694
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Speaker 11: I'm glad you're you're doing something like filling in for

695
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 11: Ben because you're a perfect fill in for him.

696
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm honored, David, and you're a gentleman and a scholar,

697
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: and I'm glad I sent you that check earlier today

698
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: to call in tonight. He's a plant. Guys, get him

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Speaker 3: off now. David, thank you so much for saying that.

700
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: You welcome, Bye, You're out.

702
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: That's it. I feel like that's all David wanted to say.

703
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take it. David, are you sure there

704
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: was no sports take? There was no video game take, nothing.

705
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: You just want to praise me because that does look

706
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: suspect on my part.

707
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Speaker 11: Well, I have a I have a I have a

708
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 11: sports take, just so that you know from whence I come.

709
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 11: I watched George Mike and Chuck Taylor when they came

710
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Speaker 11: to my hometown to play basketball at a local university.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what happened to George Mike? And when they expanded

712
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: the paint he wasn't the same guy after that.

713
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 4: You know, well I was.

714
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Speaker 11: I was pretty young when that happened. I was in

715
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 11: in uh, late late grade school, early junior high when

716
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Speaker 11: when when they started showing up.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, David, didn't you think it

718
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: was bs that the Lakers didn't retire his jersey till

719
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: like a couple of seasons ago. They were fine raising

720
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Speaker 3: the banners that he won, but for some reason they

721
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: waited forever to retire Miken's jersey from Minneapolis.

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Speaker 11: Well, I yeah, that whole thing. There's the Lakers. At

723
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 11: least my experience with him now, certainly in this era

724
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 11: is not it's not good. But the Lakers were really

725
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 11: great because I lived up in South Dakota and uh

726
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 11: so the Minneapolis Lakers were you know, wasn't there the

727
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 11: big big change that we got we got to listen to.

728
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Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of them. But what point

729
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: did you want to get across here, David?

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Speaker 11: Well, I just wanted to say that I do listen

731
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Speaker 11: to the Clippers now.

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Speaker 3: I never thought, where's the applause?

733
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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I got one.

734
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: Of my machines, double applause. So many Laker fans, they're clapping, fans,

735
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: slubber fans.

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Speaker 11: You of us, You and Carlo emanus very very good

737
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 11: and very engaging. It's a fun. It's a fun listen.

738
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Speaker 11: And I hope, oh thank you to continue your upward

739
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 11: trajectory with your career. And I would warn you to

740
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 11: be very very careful of of Lorena and mister Cooper.

741
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Speaker 3: Wow are they crooked backstabbers? And that was your saying,

742
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: how dare you? They're right here, they've been helping me

743
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: all night.

744
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 11: Well I know they know me from a different persona

745
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 11: that I used to play. When I called in, I

746
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 11: will just give you I'll give you a taste of

747
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Speaker 11: my talents.

748
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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if I want to taste your talents?

749
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Speaker 3: But yeah, what what is it? David? Who are you?

750
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Speaker 4: Who you with?

751
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 11: I'm with my pet pig and we're going to do

752
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 11: a very short version of jingle bells.

753
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Speaker 12: Oh yay, all right, that'll do, Pig.

754
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Speaker 3: I well done. This is the upward trajectory of your career.

755
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: It's all. It's all downhill from here. That was so good, David,

756
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: Thank you for calling a All right? I called him

757
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: out and he's back. I don't know. I haven't even

758
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: started with him yet, but this could be a fight.

759
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: An you guys ever heard the expression fighting?

760
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 3: Mark a Philly guy. You know what's on? Mark calling

761
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: in from Philly. He wants to talk old school NBA

762
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 3: versus news school. Mark, what's up? You're on with Adam

763
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: Oslin filling in for Big Ben Meller tonight here on

764
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: High Mark, how do you say your last name?

766
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: Again oslind A U s l U n d Land

767
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Speaker 3: of all us say it well, Adam Ashland, he calls

768
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Speaker 3: me Audam Ashland. There's worse. Yeah, I had Am Maslin

769
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Speaker 3: had a Massmus Bryanslin, Brian Ausin. I mean I've gotten

770
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: some really close. They're right there. What do you want

771
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: to call me? Mark?

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Speaker 5: I'll just go with Adam.

773
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Speaker 7: But you lost me last hour when Steve reference Steve reference,

774
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 7: Cab Calloway and Caesar Romero. So your audience trended up

775
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 7: about forty years. I'm calling about the NBA today versus yesteryear.

776
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 7: So you're associated with the Clippers. So that would explain

777
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 7: why you don't understand today's NBA.

778
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 5: They've been a re irrelevant ever since.

779
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: Really, hold on, see you're already off base. The Clippers

780
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: are about to get to because the Clippers are about

781
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: to get to fifteen straight winning seasons. That would be

782
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: the longest such streak in the NBA currently fifteen straight

783
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: winning seasons.

784
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Speaker 5: Yes, they haven't won a long with how many championships.

785
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: Look, they've had some bad luck along the way. Here

786
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: is this do you call in? You have this telling

787
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: with big Ben Maller or is it just me, how

788
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: do you coming out.

789
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: And doesn't take Ben refuses to take my call because

790
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 7: he knows he'll get beat down.

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00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: At least you'll stand up with the man and take

792
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 5: the call. I do appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: Now, as far as the NBA compared to yesteryear, I

794
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 7: don't understand, okay, how you can compare and say that

795
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 7: today's NBA is a better quality product. Okay, they play harder,

796
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 7: other better athlete. Anything across the board is incorrect.

797
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: So you don't think guys being better shooters in the

798
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: game of basketball where it involves putting the ball in

799
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: the hoop. You don't think guys that can do that

800
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: for more places on the court means they're more skilled.

801
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Speaker 5: I think that's one aspect.

802
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Speaker 3: Okay, you don't think that's a pretty big looking No.

803
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Speaker 7: You're overlooking the night's off, the laziness of today's player,

804
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 7: the way they're catered to.

805
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: What do you mean the laziness of today's player?

806
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Speaker 8: I don't.

807
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't understand what you're staying there. I understand nights

808
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: off in load management. I also understand that guy are

809
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: having longer cod for lazy. Okay, So you think all

810
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: these guys just don't want to play and are just

811
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: being lazy. It's not because they're actually injured. So when

812
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard tears his ACL and doesn't want to play,

813
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: it's because he's just lazy. He doesn't have a torn ACL.

814
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: When did he tear his ACL and play through it?

815
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Speaker 7: I want question that right, Well, it's when it's when

816
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 7: he's healthy and doesn't play.

817
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Speaker 5: It's when the majority of the players, So you know.

818
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: His body so well and know when he's healthier when

819
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: he's not, mark better than he does.

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Speaker 5: He has the documented history.

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Speaker 7: I s Gregg Popovich about his history of playing through injury.

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Speaker 5: Hey they pay no.

823
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Speaker 3: Greg Popovich and him were fine. It was Tony Parker

824
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Speaker 3: who made a comment once about him in San Antonio

825
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: and Kawhi Leonard and Greg Popovich have a great relationship.

826
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm sure it worked out very well in the

827
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Speaker 7: end for both.

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Speaker 5: But I will just say.

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Speaker 3: I would say Kawhi getting traded to the Raptors and

830
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: him winning that championship, I mean that worked out pretty

831
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Speaker 3: nicely in twenty nineteen and not the worst it did.

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Speaker 7: But since he's come to the Clippers, he has stolen

833
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: Steve Bamber's money, whether he's working or not.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's still under question. Let me he earned

835
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Speaker 5: all that money.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. You think all the training

837
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: Kawhi does, which maybe actually hurts his body because he

838
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: works so hard and his body betrays him, is the

839
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: sign of a lazy player. You think he'd rather do

840
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: the training than actually play in games. He trains so

841
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: hard so he can play in games. The fun part is.

842
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 7: Yes, anything to avoid the game of the press conference

843
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 7: is what would suit Kawhi.

844
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Speaker 3: You think is actively one of the greatest players ever

845
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Speaker 3: when he's healthy, wants to avoid games. One of the

846
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Speaker 3: most clutch players with some of the biggest shots ever

847
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: wants to avoid games. I think that's ass.

848
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Speaker 7: Nine the best players, the best players in the world

849
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Speaker 7: today are all from out of the USA, So it's

850
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 7: not even America's game anymore.

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00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: It's almost like about don Global Mark And yes, the

852
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: ninety two Dream Team was going up against ten cans

853
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: compared to the guys today you have to go up

854
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Speaker 3: against in the international game. Turns out there's a larger

855
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 3: talent pool now, Mark, because the game has grown. And

856
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: credit Michael Jordan, he got he got guys to be

857
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: playing basketball everywhere, And you're right, there wouldn't be Nikola Jokish,

858
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Speaker 3: there wouldn't be Honest Dena Koompo, Luka, Doncis, Joe Ellenbiid

859
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Speaker 3: and all these guys. If the game didn't get so popular.

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00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: That's not to diminish the Americans. It's just the game

861
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: has gone global.

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00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 7: Well, that's what cements his legacy as the goat, not Lebron,

863
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 7: not anyone who is coming.

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Speaker 3: It's more about influence.

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Speaker 5: Not even Kobe. They don't touch Michael. They don't touch

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Speaker 5: what he.

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Speaker 7: Did throughout his career and even in Washington when he

868
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Speaker 7: was forty years old, he played eighty two games, his

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Speaker 7: final year eighty two.

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Speaker 5: Now Lebron will never be played with.

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Speaker 3: Did he play well in all those eighty two games?

872
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Speaker 3: And you have some nights scoring can actually see scoring

873
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: six points?

874
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 7: Understand he entertain the fans by showing up and playing

875
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 7: and not sitting there in street flows.

876
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if all those games are very entertaining.

877
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: You look like a fraction of himself.

878
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 7: Mark, It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

879
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: His name is still Michael Jordan. But he doesn't actually

880
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: look actually look like.

881
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: He averaged that final year at him. I'll do that.

882
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: I think twenty on like twenty one shot attempts.

883
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 5: Let me do the research for you.

884
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 7: The average twenty points a games his final is that

885
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 7: what I just said?

886
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: And how many shots? How many shots did he take

887
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: to get to those twenty points? My friend? How many

888
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: shots did he take?

889
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 4: Was he?

890
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 7: A don't have that number in front of me, but

891
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 7: I know he got to twenty points, and I know

892
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 7: he played every game.

893
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: Let's Lebron James do that.

894
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 8: His nineteen shots?

895
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: Like, Mark, why do you why do you hate Lebron

896
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: James so much? Does he threaten your idols?

897
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 5: Hew out?

898
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: Jordan not a narcissist? No, not an egoistical guy? Whatsoever?

899
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 5: Mike Michael Jordan's do we hear from him? Except from

900
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: NASCAR these days?

901
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: So you're you're comparing him post career to Lebron during career?

902
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 4: Is that fair?

903
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: Why don't we talk about Michael Jordan and how he

904
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: was back then? You think he wasn't a narcissist? Do

905
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: you think Michael Jordan didn't think much of himself? Get

906
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: out of here?

907
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: But he backed it up, He backed it up, always

908
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: backed it up.

909
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: Did he back it up? In Washington? Did he back

910
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: it up when Nick Anderson stole the ball from him?

911
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: Did he back it up when he lost to the

912
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: Pistons in three straight years?

913
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 8: But those don't count, right, playing every game his final

914
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 8: year averaging.

915
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: As long as you're playing every game, even if you're

916
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: playing badly, that's all that matters.

917
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 7: All Lebron has done is try to emulate Michael Jordan,

918
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 7: and he's falling short except with the points. And that's

919
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 7: the longevity record. So congrats to Lebron for that. If

920
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 7: you think today's NBA is challenged, let me ask her something.

921
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: Is Michael Jordan going six and zero against the Golden

922
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: State Warriors With Kevin Jiders.

923
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 7: They're better shooters, and they travel in better quality, they

924
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 7: stay at nicer hotels.

925
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 5: So Ben is corrected about that, they get the catered deals.

926
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 5: These guys are so spoiled and catered.

927
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 8: I get it.

928
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: Getting off my lawn, Okay, Boomer, all that stuff, I

929
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: get it. You don't like the new NBA. You think

930
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: it was always better. Everything was better in your prime,

931
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: including the NBA. I get it.

932
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 5: Everything was better, But today version is Do you know what?

933
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: That's called Golden Age syndrome? Believe me I used to

934
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: have it. I used to feel the same way about

935
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: nineties basketball. I used to revere it. I felt like

936
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 3: this is the pinnacle of basketball. When I go back

937
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: and watch fool games and not just highlights, it doesn't

938
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: look the same as it did when I was a kid.

939
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: Kind of like some of those movies that don't hold

940
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: up that well that you cherished as a kid. The

941
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: game keeps them. It stays to it evolves. And we

942
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: actually have Michael Jordan talking about that. We'll get into

943
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: it a little bit later. The game evolves, Mark, And

944
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: even Michael Jordan said so very recently, just.

945
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: Now old man product. He will never say that.

946
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 7: Nobody will say that who watches the game kingly and

947
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 7: that exclusion.

948
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Speaker 3: Nobody will say what.

949
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 5: Nobody will say what the LA Clippers.

950
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: Nobody will say what that the.

951
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 7: Game is better than it was back in the nineties,

952
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Speaker 7: in the early two thousands. Besides the outside shooting. There's

953
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Speaker 7: way too much, no way you can claim that it's better.

954
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Speaker 3: Besides shooting the basketball in the game of basketball and

955
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: guys being better at it now, the game is not better.

956
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: I'm having more proficient outside shooters. I'm not saying it

957
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: turns out that's a that's a big deal.

958
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: It turns out that's a big deal. They figured out

959
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 3: the masks, they figured out ways to beat the game.

960
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: Like Mark, we can keep going in circles here, but

961
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 3: I got to get to our next guest. And I apologize,

962
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Speaker 3: But Mark, I will take your call again.

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Speaker 5: Okay, fair debate, great debate. And I love the way

964
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Speaker 5: that Ben pronounces your last names.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, love you, my friend.