1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: my name is Noel. 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: super producer Paul. Mission control decands. Most importantly, you are you, 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 3: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: don't want you to know. It is the top of 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: the week as we are coming to you mid August. 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: This means that your three faithful correspondents are amid what 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: we sometimes call birthday week. It's very strange to outsiders 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: to realize that Matt and I all have birthdays within 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: a very close, very very close, I don't know, like 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: a proximity. Perfect proximity is perfect. We are going to do. 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: We talked about this off air, folks, conspiracy Realist. Today's 18 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: this week's Strange News segment is what we called a 19 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: disease sad which you will see why in just a 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: few minutes. We are going to explore several surprising, disturbing, 21 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: amazing things, all of which need a little bit more 22 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: coverage in our opinion, which is our inspiration for strange news. 23 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: We're going to look at the activities of a newly 24 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: famous bear, which I fully support, as well as some 25 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: other acts of animals fighting the power, which I think 26 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: we all fully support. Shout out claud the Orca. And 27 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: then we are going to look at the rise of 28 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: some old diseases that a lot of people in the 29 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: West thought were done. But before we do any of that, 30 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: we're returning to one of our ongoing areas of interest. 31 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: Fung gui fungi mushrooms. They're very dangerous. There are so 32 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: many that scientists still in twenty twenty three don't know 33 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: how many species of this life form are out there, 34 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: but we as a civilization do know they can have 35 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: dangerous consequences. And there is a story that you might 36 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: not have heard that matt I got to be honest, 37 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: it reminds me a little bit of the tale our 38 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: Sneak and Old Lace. 39 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit. Let's go back aways 40 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: and start the story on Saturday, July twenty ninth, when 41 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: a woman named Aaron hosted a family get together at 42 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: her house in a little town called Leon Gotha. This 43 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: is a town in southern Victoria, Australia. It's roughly a 44 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: two hour car trip southeast of Melbourne. And in attendance 45 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: at this party it was Erin. Obviously she's hosting the party. 46 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: We got Gail her mother in law, Heather, her mother 47 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: in law's sister, and Don and Ian their respective husbands. 48 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: So in total, five adults also present at this party. 49 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: You've got two kids. Those are Aaron's son and daughter. 50 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Not in attendance, by the way, is Aaron's husband, Simon, 51 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: but we will get to that momentarily. So as host 52 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: of this party, Aaron cooks everybody meals. She makes two 53 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: of them, one for the adults and one for the kids. 54 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: And you know, seems like a great time family get together. 55 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: You've probably had many of these in your life. But 56 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: soon after this get together, four of the five adults 57 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: present at Aaron's home that day presented symptoms of severe 58 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: food poisoning, talking, extreme nausea, stomach pain, expelling of things 59 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: from both ends, just terrible stuff. A few days later, 60 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: all four adults, all four adults who were at that party, 61 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: were admitted to the hospital, and other than Aaron, Aaron 62 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: is the fifth adult that was there, she was not 63 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: admitted to the hospital. She did not come down, at 64 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: least reportedly with any kind of food poisoning symptoms. And unfortunately, Gail, 65 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: her mother in law, Heather, her mother in law's sister, 66 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: and Dawn her I guess father in law, or at 67 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: least the husband of her mother in law all passed away. 68 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: They all died while under medical care at the hospital. 69 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: And the thought is it's directly tied to whatever food 70 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: poisoning they were experiencing. And as we report this, the 71 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: fourth adult ian, who is Heather's husband, he remains critically 72 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: ill and he is suffering specifically from li damage. Now 73 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: that liver damage is why authorities were very interested in 74 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: what happened at that party, because liver damage is associated 75 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 2: directly with a specific type of mushroom called the death cap. 76 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: It's one that we've talked about on this show several times, 77 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: and it's something that the Victoria Department of Health has 78 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: been signaling danger about since at least April of this year. 79 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: Matt, I'm not seeing anywhere what dish was prepared. Did 80 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: you find that in your looking into this story? 81 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: No, this is an active investigation. So there have been 82 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: several interviews with Aaron by the media, like at her home. 83 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: They basically accosted her at her home and try to 84 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: get that info. But there is an active investigation with 85 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Victoria Police, so we're probably not going to find out 86 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: details like that at least for a bit. This did 87 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: happen recent pretty recently, and the reporting that I'm speaking 88 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: about came out today, so like right now, Sky News 89 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: and ABC, the Austrian Broadcasting Company, CNN, everybody's covering it. 90 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: So we'll get more probably really soon. But yeah, what 91 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: first of all, before you even get into the investigation 92 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: of this, let's think about it. As an investigator, you 93 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: walk up to you know, this situation, what are your 94 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 2: immediate thoughts? 95 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing, as an investigator, and none of 96 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: us are investigators, you would say who survived and who 97 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: encountered this mushroom? The children appear to have no effects, 98 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: the person preparing the meal a pair to have no 99 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: ill effects at all, and this stuff is very dangerous, 100 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: so why that would be your first starting point. 101 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: I also would you know, definitely be interested in what 102 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: food was prepared. You know, I know a lot of 103 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: folks in Australia are anywhere like to forage for mushrooms 104 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: like morels and things like that. So perhaps if there 105 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: was a wild mushroom element to the dish, then that 106 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: would be of interest, but also that would be very 107 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: suspicious if that dish was different than the one that 108 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: was served you know. 109 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: To everybody. 110 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: But again, kids don't like mushrooms, so I would want 111 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: to know if mushrooms were a prominent part of the dish, 112 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: and then you could make the argument like, my kid 113 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: won't need a mushroom, you know, so that would make sense. 114 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: But there are questions. 115 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, you're right on the money there, guys. That's 116 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: the way I would feel too. You're right about the 117 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: kids don't like mushrooms thing. And again they were prepared 118 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: a separate meal that probably didn't include them. We can 119 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: confirm that mushrooms of some sort were a part of 120 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: the meal because when when just not specifically deathcat mushrooms, 121 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: right of course. Yeah, so that's part of the investigation 122 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: that's ongoing, just trying to figure out where do the 123 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: mushrooms come from, what type were they, and all that 124 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: good stuff. There's also probably we you know, I haven't 125 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: seen it written anywhere, but there's probably toxicology reports that 126 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: are being generated and tests being done on the people 127 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: who have already passed, so we'll likely find out more there. 128 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: Matt, did you see something about a dehydrator that was 129 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: found discarded? Which is that's a little suss that it 130 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: was discarded. You know, that also implies to me that 131 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: maybe mushrooms weren't a primary part of the dish, but 132 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: you say you've seen that it definitely was, because I 133 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: didn't see that. 134 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 5: That's very interesting. 135 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: Why would you dehydrate mushrooms if you weren't going to 136 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: try to disguise them? 137 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: Well, often mushrooms will be dehydrated in preparation for a dish, 138 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: depending on what the dish is, usually just to. 139 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: Keep them longer. 140 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: Though you wouldn't necessarily dehydrate them for the dish, because 141 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: usually you rehydrate dehydrated mushrooms by cooking them in a 142 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 4: liquid that then, you know, makes them kind of reconstitute. 143 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: It does depend upon the recipe, and I guess at 144 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: this point, without spoiling anything, we should do the PSA, 145 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: which is, unless you are an expert in foraging, unless 146 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: you're like a hardcore forager, you need to be very 147 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: careful about which mushrooms you pick up and decide to 148 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: put in your mouth. One of my favorite lines from 149 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: a fellow schroomner that I know is he said, one time. 150 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: You know, people can eat any mushrooms they want. It's 151 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: just some of those mushrooms you can only eat one time, 152 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: so be careful with that. And Matt, I understand, and 153 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: I think our fellow conspiracy realist understand from the broad 154 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: strokes of the story here so far that we've heard 155 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: a couple of freezes that should already trip our collective 156 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: spider sense. Phrases like toxicology report, phrases like ongoing investigation. 157 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: So yes, active investigation. According to Detective Inspector Dean Thomas 158 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:21,119 Speaker 2: with the Victoria Police Homicide Squad, Aaron is a suspect. Officially, 159 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: she is a suspect because of the things we already 160 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: pointed out. The only adult president the party that did 161 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: not get sick again, the kids ate a different meal, 162 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: so they're, you know, pretty much in the clear. Seems 163 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: very suss As you said, she was interviewed and released 164 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: by the authorities, and she has not been charged with 165 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: the deaths of the three people have already died, and 166 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: you know, whatever harming of Ian, the fourth person who 167 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: is currently in the hospital. They are also looking at 168 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: it possible accidental poisoning, and. 169 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: If we're being completely fair, the accidental poisoning idea is 170 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: quite valid. I would say it's it's the best beginning 171 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: point because again, there are so many mushrooms out there, 172 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: There's so many that people eat. It's completely plausible that 173 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: you could have picked the wrong mushroom and you might 174 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: have thought it looked like something that would go great 175 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: in a pasta or what have you, and then you 176 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: could have you know, you could have had a misstep totally. 177 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: And I have a couple of friends out in Australia, 178 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: and maybe these folks are just particularly outdoorsy, but it 179 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: really does seem like a mega outdoorsy culture there in 180 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: terms of foraging, and also diversity of plant and wildlife 181 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: is kind of like out of control in Australia. So 182 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 4: it may well have just been a misstep. And while 183 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 4: on the one hand, the whole the children got a 184 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: separate meal thing could be seen as suspect As a 185 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: dad with a picky eater, that makes perfect sense. I 186 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: have to make a separate meal for my kid almost 187 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: every time cook something that I'm interested in. 188 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 5: So that's another way of looking at it for sure. Yeah. 189 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Not to sound like an occultist or an alchemist of 190 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: some sort, but if you know the street name for this, 191 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: the death cap, you know that it is native to Europe, 192 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: not native to Australia. 193 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 5: Oh well, that's rich and the works there might Please 194 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 5: forgive me Australia listeners, please forgive me. That's an issue. Huh. 195 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: That kicks the foraging scenario out the window quite a 196 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 4: bit done now. 197 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, not necessarily. These mushrooms are found not natively, but 198 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: are found in Australia. 199 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: Okay, as of the I think the late nineteen hundreds 200 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: or so. What happened is there was an importation of 201 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: hardwoods and conifers and the spores of these life forms 202 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: on there. So now the death CAP's there, right, you 203 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: could plause, Matt, Is it true you could plausibly find 204 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: the death cap out in the wild. 205 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why the Victoria Health Department put out that 206 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: statement in April basically warning everybody, Hey, these are here, 207 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: be very careful, be very very careful. 208 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 209 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: So it is a possibility that maybe Aaron accidentally had 210 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: those mushrooms or has you know, forages for mushrooms, got 211 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: a hold of them, put them in or maybe even 212 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: she even got them from somebody else and put them 213 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: into a dish. Maybe you guys are we kind of 214 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: missed something here. We were talking about the dehydrator. Some 215 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: of the more recent reporting states that investigators have recovered 216 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: a dehydrator that you could dehydrate mushrooms or any other 217 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: thing in It was found in well, the reporting says 218 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: it was found in a tip, which is I believe 219 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: slaying for like a place where trash is dumped. 220 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: Right, like a dumpster I guess, like a or like 221 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: a like a street Kirby Ben kind of thing. 222 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. There's no information about where the 223 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: tip was where, you know, and the circumstances that they 224 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: found it, but it was discovered and recovered by authorities, 225 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: so you know, I guess s they'll do some testing 226 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: on that thing and see if it actually had deathcap 227 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: mushrooms in it unless it has been thoroughly cleansed. The 228 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: big question then becomes, well, maybe this is foul play 229 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: of some sort, and if it is, what would be 230 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: the motive for something like this? And that's where you 231 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: get to One of the primary questions being asked by 232 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: media outlets from Australia to the United States, which is 233 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: where was Aaron's husband, Simon? Why was he not there? 234 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: Both of his parents were there and both of his 235 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: parents passed away. What are the circumstances between Aaron and Simon? 236 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: What is their relationship like? Well, according to Di I Thomas, 237 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: which is something I've always wanted to say, d I 238 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: or DCI somebody, you know, thanks Luther and got that 239 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: in my head. But Di I Thomas described the relationship 240 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: between Aaron and Simon as being quote separated, but also 241 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: quote amicable. So maybe everything's fine there, there's nothing to see, 242 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: but it does seem a bit strange. Several sources close 243 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: to the investigation, as well as I think family members 244 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: maybe people close to the family, according to the Sun, 245 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: have stated that Aaron invited Simon they call him her 246 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: estranged husband Simon, to join the parents at this lunch right, 247 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: but he apparently pulled out right at the last minute, 248 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: which seems you know, maybe if it's a couple that's 249 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: fighting there, he just pulled out because he felt uncomfortable it, 250 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to go. That's me speculating but it is 251 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: a bit weird that he was basically a lunch for 252 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: his family. He wasn't there and they all end up 253 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: getting sick and they're having you know, troubles within their relationship. 254 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: It's a bit strange. 255 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: I agree, it is strange. 256 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: I also will say, in the spirit of giving someone 257 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt, who if, in the case 258 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: that this was an accident, is going through hellish emotional 259 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: time right now and being you know, accused of such 260 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: things yea to locally, people coming to the house, you know, 261 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: asking questions, all of that stuff, impossible to. 262 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: Grieve properly and all of that. 263 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: So just putting that out there that we are coming 264 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: at this from a place of empathy and that it's 265 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: just the these are questions that are being asked. This 266 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: is an unusual situation. But you know, obviously, given this 267 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: is an accident, our hearts are you know, with this woman. 268 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: With everybody involved, everybody, and there will be more surely 269 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: to come. We just thought it was an interesting case, 270 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: I guess, to look into. You don't hear often about 271 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: a large number of people being poisoned unless it's some 272 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: kind of accident with you know, a packer of produce 273 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: or meat or something where listeria or you know, one 274 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: of these other diseases kind of gets out, and we 275 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: will keep our eyes on this. We'll take a break 276 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: now here word from our sponsor, and we'll be right back. 277 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: And we've returned with another piece of strange news. This 278 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: one a bit on the lighter side. It's a it 279 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: goes in line with some stories that we've been talking 280 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: about lately and that you may have noticed a bit 281 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: of of a backlash from the animal kingdom, you know, 282 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: as the seas boil and the earth becomes scorched, and 283 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: also just you know, humans. 284 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: Generally being pretty awful. 285 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 4: This one's kind of fun because I just can't help 286 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: when you hear a headline like fugitive burglar bear captured 287 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 4: in California alone is gonna particularly pink. But the idea 288 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: of a burglar bear captured? Was this a serial offender? 289 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: What was he pilferring? 290 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: Was it picanic baskets? We don't know. 291 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: We'll probably never know exactly what the bear pilfer. We 292 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: do know is that this bear, a five hundred pound 293 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: bear known to residents of the Lake Tahoe. 294 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: Area as Hank. 295 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 4: The Tank is said to have believed to have broken 296 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: into more than twenty homes in the Lake Tahoe area 297 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: since twenty twenty two, and Hank, who's in fact a 298 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: female bear, is registered with the Wildlife Service as Bear 299 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: sixty four F is currently being moved to a wildlife 300 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: sanctuary in Colorado. The bear was actually apprehended along with 301 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: her three cubs. So, you know, you hear about you 302 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: rent a cabin or something, and you'll occasionally see like 303 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: locks on the trash cans outside and stuff. Of 's 304 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: see here about there's bears. These these fella, these creatures 305 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: are curious and they are looking for food often and 306 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: they you know, you don't often hear of people being 307 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: mauled or you know, injured in any way by bears, 308 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 4: but they certainly can mess up your campsite. You know, 309 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: you're supposed to hang your trash in the trees and 310 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: all of that stuff. You know, there's a little precautions 311 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 4: that go into mitigating bear encounters, let's just call them. 312 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: But this one really takes the cake. It also turns 313 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: out that there were, originally this bear was being associated 314 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: with I think more than a hundred incidents of reported 315 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 4: bear sightings let's see, you know, these types of altercations 316 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: involving homes. But it appears that that Hank was being 317 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: lumped in with the activities of some other mischievous, rascally bears. 318 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: So Hank wasn't of all the things that were being 319 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 5: thrown out there. 320 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: But I don't know, you guys, how does this hit 321 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: you initially, especially when you know we're looking at all 322 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: of these things like orcas attacking boats, attacking yachts and 323 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: things like that, Like is this part of the animal 324 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: kingdom revolting against its human interlopers or. 325 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 5: Is it just a coincidence? 326 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been a fascination of mine. Of late, 327 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 3: I have become strange when it comes to the rise 328 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: in stories of quote unquote animal aggression. There's an otter 329 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: who has been absconding with surfboards in California. There's a 330 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: bear who just broke out of an airplane in Iraq. Matt, 331 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: you sent an awesome story or a disturbing story about 332 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: a bear in our group chat. Earlier we see what 333 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: appears to be a rise in story of animals fighting 334 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: the human power. I've been fascinated by this. I think 335 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people have and a big part of it, 336 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: Noel probably goes down to what wildlife experts are saying 337 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: about Hank the tank. They're saying, it's not her fault. 338 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: She's a bear, not a human supervillain. People are further 339 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: encroaching upon wildlife. Climate change is driving animals out of 340 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: their usual habitats, and people aren't securing things like their 341 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: trash bends, and people aren't securing entry ways and things 342 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: like that. I've just got to be honest. Even since 343 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: before Gladys the Orca, I've been team animal for a 344 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 3: long long time. I mean, that's my take. Can't you 345 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: can't blame a bear for trying to be a bear, right. 346 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: Well, you can blame a bear for a B and e. 347 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: And my advice to sixty four f you don't bring 348 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: your cubs to a b and e. 349 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: Okay, that's just the irresponsible parenting right there. 350 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: At least, you know, leave them in the leave them 351 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: in the den. But you know, it's funny. 352 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: It makes me think of the movie Twelve Monkeys, you 353 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: know how, in like the post apocalyptic kind of world 354 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: that's or at least what leads up to it, don't 355 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: they release like the kind of contingent. 356 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 5: Of freedom fighters or rebels or whatever. 357 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: They release a bunch of animals like from the zoo 358 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: and stuff and like, and then the in the weird 359 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 4: future estimated planet world they are like lions and tigers 360 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: and stuff roaming you know, free. 361 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: I just I do. 362 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: This just feels a little twelve Monkeys is to be, 363 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: you know, this idea of these animals that are kind 364 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: of revolting. I do think it's interesting that the governor 365 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 4: of Colorado, by the way, Jared Polls, suggested that Hank should. 366 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 5: Have been named Henrietta. The tank. That's very cute. 367 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 4: Governor Jared Polus also was the first one I've seen 368 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: on the ex social media platform formerly known as twins. 369 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: Just come on, you'll stop trying to make ex happen. 370 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: It's not happening. Nobody's going for it. But yeah, I 371 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: think it's interesting. In many ways, these type of situations 372 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: usually involve the animal being euthanized, but I guess because 373 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: of all the press surrounding it, and because Hank, nay Henrietta, 374 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: we're just just so much smarter than the average bear 375 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: that they're being transform transported to a wildlife preserve to 376 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: live out their you know, natural life instead of being 377 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 4: you know put down. And unfortunately, though the cubs are 378 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: being separated from the mother, which is seems like a bummer. 379 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 4: That seems like a heartbreaking thing because we do know 380 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: that animals do know they're young, and they are affected 381 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 4: when they're you know, separated from them, and this seems 382 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: like a punishment in and of itself. But I don't 383 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 4: know that's in particular, is about why what foot facilities 384 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: are more suitable. But yeah, Hank is gonna get a 385 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 4: health check and then be taken to a wildlife animal 386 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: sanctuary in Springfield, Colorado. 387 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 5: And again the governor was like welcoming Hank with open arms. 388 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 4: But it is sort of a cute pr type story 389 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: in that respect, but I think it points to something 390 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: much larger, like what Ben is describing, which I completely 391 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: agree with. I'm not being facetious when I say I 392 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: do think this stuff is real. That animals are fed up, they're. 393 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 5: Mad as hell, they're not going to take it anymore. 394 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're just you know, we talk about it 395 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: all the time. They're being encroached on more and more. Right, Well, 396 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: just in the case of where I live in about 397 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: forty five minutes north of where you guys are. There's 398 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: a black bear that lives in the little wooded area 399 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: right by my house, and it's been caught on camera 400 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: right in front of my house several times around trash day. 401 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: So it makes sense, right, it's a bear that's living 402 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: close by. There is a lot of trash that can 403 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: be smelled from pretty far away, and it roams through 404 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: and tries to find some food. Bear's not doing anything wrong, 405 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: just trying to find some food. 406 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: And I have reestimated that earlier about the total number 407 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: of incidents. It was forty break ins total, only twenty 408 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 4: one of which were DNA confirmed to be to have 409 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: been committed by by Hank, so we know at least 410 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: two other large bears were involved, but Hank did the 411 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 4: work of two bears. 412 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: Al that's five hundred bears total, right, estimated in the 413 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 3: area in the Tahoe area of correct. 414 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, yeah, of the population, yes, correct. 415 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: So it's weird, right because it's on the one hand, 416 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: it's funny and you can see the reporting taking that 417 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: stance and the governor making it a thing like, yeah, 418 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: we're welcoming this bear, We're not going to kill it. 419 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: Because you guys know too much and it wouldn't be 420 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: a good look. But these incidents are not like bears 421 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: that are have gone mad. You know, it's our fault 422 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 4: kind of, you know. So it's sad in its own 423 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: way as well, especially when you consider that Hanks being 424 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: separated from her cubs. 425 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: So a little bit less of a totally cute story 426 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 5: than I thought now that I think about it in totality. 427 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: There's also there is a lighthearted part to it, nol 428 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: or a good news part, which is that no one 429 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: was injured by Hank the tank. Because the most dangerous 430 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: way to encounter a bear is to encounter a female 431 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: bear with cubs. That is known. It is well established. 432 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: The fact that the fact that Hank or sixty four 433 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: F as the government wishes to call her, is going 434 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: around with her kids means that someone could have easily died. 435 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: And you know what Davy Crockett stories aside, if you 436 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: were listening to this show and you were a human being, 437 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: the odds of you PvP and a bear are very low. 438 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: You should just not be in that situation if you 439 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: can help it. 440 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 4: And I believe it is true that you are supposed 441 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: to supposed to play dead, right, That's not just like a. 442 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: Joke, because depending on the species, yeah, you should. 443 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 4: You shouldn't run because they're going to be faster than you, 444 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: they will overtake you, and they can climb trees. So yeah, 445 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: depending on the species, I believe playing dead is a 446 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: pretty decent, decent move except for the polar bears. 447 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the black bears in question. Here at least, 448 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: the going thing in North Georgia is to make yourself 449 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: big and be really loud and scary. Basically to just. 450 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: Be inconvenient, look like it costs more calories to try 451 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 3: to eat you than they will get from meeting you, 452 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: because black bears are usually going to be less likely 453 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: to engage in that regard. If you were ever in 454 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: the wild with a great Actually, you know what, if 455 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 3: you're in the wild with most except for and I 456 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: can't emphasize this enough, except for polar bears, they don't 457 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: want to hang out with you. You're not easy to eat, Okay, 458 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: They're responding to threats if they feel like you are 459 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: a threat. Now, if you are, if you are in 460 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 3: a situation with a polar bear, I'm just gonna say it. 461 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: I know, gun rights are a whole sensitive thing. But 462 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: if you're gonna survive a situation with a polar bear, 463 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: you need to be strapped in small bird Fallbarred Island, 464 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: one of the only places in the EU where you 465 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 3: don't need a visa to live. The residents of that 466 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: place cannot leave longyear Ben, the main town without a 467 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: rifle because of the polar bears. That is a true story. 468 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: But other than polar bears. 469 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well, I think this is it for 470 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: this one for today. 471 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: I'm glad. Ultimately everyone came out of this unscathed, except 472 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: for the planet Earth. But that's the story for another day. 473 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break. 474 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna hear a word from our sponsor, and then 475 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: we'll be back with a little bit more strange news. 476 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: And we have returned with a gift that no one 477 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: asked for, perhaps coming to your neck of the Global Woods. 478 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: If you live in Central Florida, folks, as you know, 479 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: you've already got many many things to worry about in 480 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: that part of the world. Rising sea levels, the heat 481 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: is just cartoonishly offensive. One thing you might not have 482 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: had on your bingo card leprosy. So leprosy. We all 483 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: remember leprosy right from the Bible. Bible that I think 484 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: it's fair to say for most people in the West 485 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: is something that feels historic, right like when when's the 486 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: last time you got a call from an X and 487 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: they said, Hey, I just want you to know I 488 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: have leprosy. You should get checked. 489 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, historic, highly contagious, that which is part 490 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: of I think where I guess the panic around it 491 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: came because and also you know, some really brutal situations 492 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: where lepers were rounded up and put you know, on colonies, 493 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: oftentimes only taken care of by you know, monks and 494 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: folks like that, and nuns who were the only ones 495 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: who weren't afraid. I guess perhaps because they felt they 496 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: were protected by the power of Christ but divinity. 497 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were people suffering from leprosy also known 498 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: as Hanson's disease, were were historically isolated because it is 499 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: an infectious disease. It is caused by bacteria. I think 500 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: a lot of people, maybe especially younger people in the West, 501 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: might think of leoprosy the way you think of the 502 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: bubonic plague, just because it does cause physical degradation. But 503 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: leprosy is curable with some multi drug therapy. Leprosy is 504 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: still around today. The majority of cases come from Southeast Asia, 505 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: but the humble armadillo here in the United States is 506 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: also a transmitter of leprosy. Which is a shame because 507 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: I always felt like armadillo has got the short end 508 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: of the stick anyway, evolutionarily. So here's a story that 509 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: came to us via Science Alert via the CDC. It 510 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: should be more widely reported. Just this August, a fifty 511 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: four year old man in Florida was diagnosed with leprosy, 512 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: and it turns out that he is one of This man, 513 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: who is still not identified, of course, is one of 514 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: the many cases of leprosy. There is an explosion of 515 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: leprosy cases in the southern US since two thousand, so 516 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: for more than two decades, leprosy has been on the 517 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: rise in the Southeast, and reported cases of leprosy have 518 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: more than doubled in the Southeast, in particular Central Florida alone, 519 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: not even the whole of Florida. Central Florida alone accounts 520 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: for almost one fifth of US cases of leprosy. And 521 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: if you look at the people we love to we 522 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: love to go to for this stuff. The experts you know, 523 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: the CDC, the dermatologists, the pathologist, everyone. They are saying 524 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: that leprosy has now become endemic in the southeastern United States. 525 00:32:53,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: And the scary part, no one sure why or why 526 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: leprosy has become so popular in Central Florida. It's so 527 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: hot right now, leprosy. How many cases are we talking, Well, 528 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: that's a good question, Matt. There were about one hundred 529 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: and fifty cases reported baseline of leprosy in the US 530 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: each year. However, the number has been doubling at a 531 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: at an unexpected rate. This is an explosion of leprosy. 532 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 5: And by. 533 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: As we know, the best way to try to address this, 534 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: the best way to figure out how to combat it 535 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: is to isolate the cause. Once we know what is 536 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: causing this, we will know how to how to combat, 537 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 3: how to address it, how to get in front of it. 538 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: But if you look at it now, what you're going 539 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: to see is that in twenty twenty, there were one 540 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty nine cases reported nationwide, all across the 541 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: United States. So that'd be mainly Central Florida and Texas. 542 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: We could assume, right, because Armadillo, you think of Texas, 543 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: you think of the South and Texas in particular, but 544 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: Central Florida right now is eighty one percent of cases 545 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: in Florida of leprosy, and that means it's one out 546 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: of five leprosy cases in the United States. No one 547 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: is sure why they know. We know the nine banded Armadillo, 548 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: which to be fair, isn't just in Texas. But when 549 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: the CDC and when when investigators are talking with people 550 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: about this, what they're seeing is that easily, easily the 551 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 3: majority of these new leprosy cases they've never seen in Armadillo. 552 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: They haven't touched one, they haven't petted one, they haven't 553 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 3: eaten armadillo jerky or anything like that, which I don't 554 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: even know is a thing, but I'd try it. 555 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: It's sorry, pretty jerky, pre jerked. Yeah. 556 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: Is there travel involved with those cases, like they went 557 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: somewhere came back with leprosy? 558 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: Zero good question mat No foreign travel as far as 559 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: we can tell. 560 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: And the good news that I guess is that it 561 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: is not you know, well it was there necessarily a 562 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 4: death sentence, but it's it can't be treated. And these 563 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: aren't like advanced you know, cases that are life threatening. Correct, 564 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: It's just unusual more than anything, right. 565 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So endemic, which can be a scary word 566 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 3: to hear. Endemic means that there is a normalized, regular 567 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: level of a disease in a region, but not necessarily 568 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: that rates are climbing. If you look at we have 569 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: to caveat this carefully, if you look at the current speculation, 570 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 3: then one of the big guesses regards climate change, one 571 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 3: of the big guesses regarding yards the idea that the 572 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: environment is changing such that the factor or the ways 573 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: in which leprosy can transmit. You know, it's like it's 574 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: like when a small town gets big and it used 575 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: to have a two lane road going into town, and 576 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, the road is three lanes. 577 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 3: Now it's four lanes. It's easier to move cars. Cars 578 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: in this case are leprosy and diseases like that, it's 579 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: easier for them to travel. And that seems to be 580 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: what happens. Now. Luckily, there's still you know, luckily, Florida 581 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 3: itself is in no danger of becoming a quote unquote 582 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: leper quality. But we have to be aware of the 583 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: tremendous misconceptions regarding this condition. You know, you don't have 584 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: to touch an armadillo to get leprosy. You don't have 585 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: to travel abroad and return to get leprosy. 586 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: You know what, something something I'm just learning from the 587 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: sources you put in the dock here, Ben. I in 588 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: my head, I always thought leprosy was something you contracted 589 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: from somebody else through touching the skin or the affected 590 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: areas on a person's body. According to the CDC and 591 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: the things you posted here, Ben, it is you contract 592 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: it through the ways you would get any other sickness, 593 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: basically from people through sneezing, droplets from the mouth and 594 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: all that, the same way you would COVID or something. 595 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 5: See. 596 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 4: I was woefully ignorant to that as well. I kind 597 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 4: of we've talked about this. I kind of thought that 598 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 4: you could it could be excreted through the skin. 599 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 5: That's not you can't at all. 600 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's just the most common ways, at least 601 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 2: it says here to contract it is the weave. 602 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 5: Again. 603 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: Someone sneezes on their hand, you shake their hand, you 604 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 3: rub your eyes, or you pick something out of your 605 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: teeth with your finger. That could be a vector. But 606 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: here's the insidious part. This is where it becomes a 607 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 3: fascinating case for investigation, and this is where we want 608 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 3: your help, fellow conspiracy realist. Leprosy is a slow game. Okay, 609 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: It's not like covid. It doesn't develop quickly. Leprosy the 610 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: bacteria that creates it, it grows extremely slowly. Depending upon 611 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: the type of infection. It can take up to twenty 612 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: years for you, as a leprosy patient to develop symptoms, 613 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 3: to get the rashes, the ulcers, the legions, all the 614 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: nasty stuff like the weird numb blotches on your skin. 615 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: So this means, especially given the age of the patient 616 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: who triggered a lot of this reporting. Shout out to 617 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: Science Alert Claire Watson, August two, twenty twenty three, this 618 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 3: means that this guy who is fifty four years old 619 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 3: in Florida, we don't know how long he has until 620 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: he went in to get diagnosed. You can incubate this stuff, 621 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: which means that logically speaking, it is quite possible that 622 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 3: there's a whole heap of infections. There's a whole heap 623 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: of people suffering from leprosy, and we might not know 624 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: it for a certain time. 625 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 4: Horizon delay in reporting always an issue with this kind 626 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 4: of stuff. And yeah, I forgot about that it's almost 627 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: like a Herpes simplex virus that can lay dormant for 628 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 4: a very very long time after you've contracted it, so 629 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 4: you might not get tested right away, and therefore it's 630 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 4: a lot easier to spread, you know, because you can 631 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: still I believe it's less likely that you would pass 632 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: it on if you're not having an outbreak, but you 633 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 4: still can pass it while it's dormant, right. 634 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, so the bacteria itself, right, it 635 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: can come in and hide out, you know, it can 636 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: infiltrate your body system. The technical name is I believe 637 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 3: mycobacteria lepre l e p r A and attacks nerves 638 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: under your skins. So you're not gonna see you're not 639 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 3: gonna see the serious symptoms for quite some time, to 640 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: the point where I believe a lot of people get 641 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: diagnosed with this. When they go to a dermatologist and say, hey, Doc, 642 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: what's this, what's this weird thing? They probably assume it's 643 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: an allergic reaction of some sort because they felt fine 644 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 3: and fit as a fiddle for quite some time. All 645 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: this to say, what we are seeing is a return 646 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 3: of diseases and conditions that were once thought to be 647 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 3: relatively contained. I won't say cured, but relatively contained. Malaria 648 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 3: is also on the rise in unexpected areas. If you 649 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 3: want to learn more about this, please do check out 650 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: the CDC website. I know that the CDC is an 651 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: impro perfect entity. We all know that, but they are 652 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: working around the clock to save lives. You will find 653 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: information not just about leprosy in Florida and in the 654 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: Southeast overall, but you will also find information about locally 655 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: acquired malaria cases identified in the United States that comes 656 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: to us from June of this year. It looks like 657 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: Florida and Texas are also becoming home to previously well 658 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: I won't say unprecedented because there used to be a 659 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: lot of malaria, but unexpected levels of malaria. And this 660 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 3: is not to dig on Florida obviously. We're fans. We love, 661 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 3: we love going to Disney World. I think Noel just 662 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: went there a little while ago. Disneyland is the. 663 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 4: Moneylora World, yea to the Florida one. Didn't catch leprosy 664 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 4: that I know of, haven't been tested, no geez, give 665 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 4: no exactly. So I do want to cop to mine 666 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: apologize because it's true. I really I'm looking it up, 667 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 4: and it's saying you really can't catch them by sitting 668 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 4: next to somebody, you can't catch them by casual skin contact. 669 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 5: And I think my perception of. 670 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 4: It was playing was being affected by a lot of 671 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 4: the tropes of it throughout history, and I just I 672 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 4: kind of feel like an idiot, like like like totally 673 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 4: out of touch. And but it just goes to show 674 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 4: how things like that are easy to do with just 675 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 4: you know, and we we resoarched them like this all 676 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 4: the time. 677 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 5: And yet I was still kind of taken in. 678 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 4: By that whole narrative of like the leper colony, and 679 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 4: you know, the idea of people being you know, you 680 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: can't you can't touch them, and that's just not true. 681 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: So I just think, you know, it's always this is 682 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 4: a good, good teachable moment for everyone to always give 683 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 4: a second look at things that you think you understand, 684 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 4: especially when it involves like human beings, you know, and 685 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 4: and the way we perceive human beings that are struggling 686 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 4: with something. 687 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll end it by saying this, there is 688 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: an excellent there's excellent scholarship by doctor Rajievdthu in Athoo. 689 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 3: You can hear several interviews with this person, and one 690 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: thing Doctor Nathu points out that blew my mind is 691 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 3: that of those eighty percent of all US leprosy cases 692 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 3: that are coming from Florida by itself, twenty percent are 693 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 3: coming from that one single region, Central Florida. Something is 694 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: or was in Central Florida giving people leprosy, and it's 695 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 3: just now being understood. It's it's scary because we don't 696 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: know what is causing it, and if you want to 697 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 3: fix something, you have to know the origin of the problem. 698 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: But again, to end on a good note, leprosy is treatable, 699 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 3: no longer death sentence. Obviously, you take a multi drug 700 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 3: regimen for several months, and there's more than one kind 701 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: of leprosy, so your mileage may vary. But taking this 702 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 3: treatment can improve your quality of life. It can also 703 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 3: reduce your it can reduce your likelihood of spreading this disease. 704 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 3: And perhaps the best news, which might also surprise us, 705 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: is that ninety five percent of people are not susceptible 706 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: to leprosy because there is an innate immunity to this 707 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 3: bacteria baked into your DNA. Because leprosy rocked the human 708 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 3: population several times in the past, so it's good news, 709 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: but it's something to keep an eye on, and it's 710 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 3: something we need to be aware of when we're seeing 711 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 3: the changing climate and how it affects the ways which 712 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 3: infections now behave. 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