WEBVTT - 10,000 In Magic City 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:06.080 Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer, I been getting 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.040 fly all my life, all my life, Frank fault. When 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.760 the summer, I been getting back. Another amount of the 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.760 episode of the Club for twenty. I'm your host. My 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.239 name DJ Wells. To my father left, I got my 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.840 brother be here to the right, my dog Jeff t. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:22.880 We got a special guests with it. You know what 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.880 I'm saying, first time visitor. I gotta go ahead. Let 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:27.479 take thought the intro out to the special man to 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.040 my left for sure. Got a teammate of mind a 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.120 Georgia legend, Atlanta legend, talk about it, slam dunk champion, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.040 defensive player, should have been of the Year, but made 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.800 All Defensive Team, Oak Hill Legend, Damn list goes on 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.160 Atlanta legend. All that my dog Josh Smith to the pot. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.160 Want to do my dog for sure? Thanks for having 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.919 me we have You know what I'm saying. I appreciate 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.000 you sliding through on us before we get into the episode. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.000 You know what I'm saying. We gotta start off with 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.720 a fraud ask question. You know what I'm saying. That's 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.440 how you get everything going. This is where your sponsor, 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:58.920 this is where you can put your name with all 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.400 these tequila balls, a little bit of do say you 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.040 want to fuck with us? This is the time where 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:04.959 you can get your ship right before we get started. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.880 But back to the question and business, honestly kind of 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:09.960 for both of you. But I'm gonna start with you 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:11.240 know what I'm saying, y'all both was in the league, 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.640 and y'all was in the league with the times, you know, 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.080 it's a little bit more physical than this today. If 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.760 it was one person in the league, you could have 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.759 swung on who would you have pick? Like hands free 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.720 hockey style, ain't no suspensions. Its got to the present box. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.800 Who was one motherfucker? I got onto your skin? You 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.120 was just like I got a uper cup for him 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.000 out of the gate. Mh. Tough one. Yeah, that's a 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.400 tough one. Who you? Who was? I know? I know who? 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.440 I want to say For Jeff Case, I ain't want 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:42.000 to nobody. I know you wanted to push I pushed Ruby, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.440 all right, Get that's my favorite Jeff clipp of all time. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.680 I cool, but that was it? Man smooth what smooth? 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:55.520 Probably wanted to punch a coach and we can ask 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:01.160 that questions. Probably everybody in the Grand coach, the town 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:09.520 Boys referees. He swinging on Towboys. Admit the hell for that, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.639 bron had us off the way I may, I appreciate you. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.600 You know what I'm saying. Slide through on a thirteen 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.200 year vet. You know what I'm saying. We gotta start 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.520 from the beginning, though, like what got you into even 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.920 playing basketball? Like what was your origin with that? Somebody 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.520 put the ball of your heads, you usually start working 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.880 with it, for sure. My dad, you know, he was 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.280 a he was a hood legend back in Atlanta. He 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.760 played for Being Hill back in the day and he 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.960 played for the men's league and me growing up watching 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.440 him play, admiring his game, and uh, that's what made 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.360 That's what That's where I grew to love it. And 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.640 then you know, once I was able to kind of 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.440 get on the court, it was it was kind of 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.240 like it was took off from there when I was 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.760 like eleven years old. How Tad was you when he 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.480 was eleven? Like did you catch a gross per? Later? 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.280 You was always you know saying, Hella more side and 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.919 everybody else maybe, Like I think my biggest gross per 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.359 was my finth grade year. Going in my ninth grade year, 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.960 I was like five teen and I went to six 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.239 to five. Damn. Yeah, that that summer, my knees was hurting. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.359 Shout out to the parents who had to feed you man, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:17.679 some shoes, everything closed. It was crazy. That's Athos. He 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:23.840 was a spurt. Yeah, that's tough. What what year did 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.799 you join the Celtics? When I was fourteen? Fourteen years old, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.480 That's when Medwhite, Dwight Howard and Randolph Morris, that's when 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.320 we came together. So y'all was the first three to 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:40.840 get it going. That's was that was like the foundation 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.760 of the team. Okay, and then you know, we had 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.640 we had guards that that that came and left. But 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.920 that was that was like for the most part, that 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.040 was the team that kind of like that was the 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.920 foundation of the team. Yeah. I always hear about your 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:59.680 oh three team. It was you, Randolph the White, Mike Mercer, Yeah, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.800 that was Mike, marand Rush. Now what would you damn 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.760 would you compare, well, not really compare who would you take? 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:14.040 Would you take that oh three Atlanta Celtics team or 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:20.640 that uh oh three Okaill squad because you'll have some 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:27.400 hitters who okay Rondo, Oh yeah, that's my best friend. Yeah, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:32.400 that's my best friend. So man, that's crazy Galley. We 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:37.520 won big time. What was Adidas AU Nationals back then? Yeah, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.080 that summer and then we won a national title when 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.440 I went to Okill, Okay, So who was all on 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:49.600 your Okill squad? Man? It was Casey Rivers. Yeah, went 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:55.159 to Cleon right. Yeah. Yeah, he can shoot though, but 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.240 he was our shooter. We had a guy named Brian Johnson. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.880 He it was he had. His story was sad because 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.960 it was, you know, we played the whole season and 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.000 doing layup line. He go out for a dunk, tears 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.040 a cl and the lay up and then he kind 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.880 of had like knee problems throughout. Then got named day 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.160 Shane Wright. Uh, Aaron came out the bench. We had 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.919 we had a we had a we had a decent 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.400 We had a good team. But the OKI team was 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:31.240 probably I mean, I mean that Celtic team. Let's get 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.720 let's get to the real talk about this debate around 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.800 here and that we're just gonna keep it real. We 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:43.400 got a team that's legendre we got we got this. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.159 It's Greg Josh McRoberts, the kan Cooked, Eric Gordon, Mike Conlin. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.359 They said that team could beat your Celtics team. I 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.280 don't think so, damn, Because I'm gonna tell you why 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.480 you said Greg Olden right, who was the four brothers? 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.560 He won to smoke with you anyway, but I wouldn't 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.120 afford though three. So you got you gotta deal with 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.480 Dwight Howard, Greg, Greg old and gotta deal with Dwhite. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:13.719 D White was more agile, He's more athletic. I think 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.279 before gregt who like, think about it, think about the 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.320 White's crazy. Think about when you think about before Greg 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.360 got hurt, what he was doing in the league, right, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.640 and think about before the White got hurt what he 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.360 was doing was see what I'm saying. So it's like 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.839 the athleticism, you know what I'm saying. Like he was 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.160 killing he was killing Orlando to the finals. No, you know, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:43.679 we know they had the So the White wins a battle? 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.680 Who got who you got for Randolph and John? I 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.720 don't know if he winned like that in high school. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.599 I think Greg was different. High school he was the 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.400 White was number what they both was number one of 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.600 the class. We can wash them. So what about let's 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.360 go Josh Man Grobbers and Randolph. Josh was number one 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.039 in his class. He was Randolph was so hold on 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:11.360 so uh Josh and Greg? So who's the younger? Greg's younger? 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.480 Greg would have got boned. Dog would have boned him 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.600 a senior. The white dog. He was nasty. He was nasty. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.600 You cussing my one good time? Dog, it's over with, 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:29.280 It's game over. He dropped step and throwing elbows, dunking, trashing, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:35.560 blocking shots. Then, Bro, the Rando was playing kind of 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.400 like a Tim Duncan too, Like Tim Duncan is more 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:42.480 from this, more from this big you know, you know, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.440 no disrespect you know to Josh. Were from the South. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:51.600 Dog you know what I mean. We you know, we go, 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:57.640 we go. We're gonna dog just because he the We're going, Yeah, 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.120 we gonna try. You know what I'm saying. It is 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.400 like I got a friend. I got a friend that 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.880 just moved from Portland to to Atlanta and uh one 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.360 of my good friends. I met him when I was 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.640 playing with Houston and and he's a white dude. His 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.960 son is a thirteen like my son. And I'm like, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.440 looked out like you in the South. Now, Bro, they 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.280 gonna see you, and they're gonna they're gonna like food 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:26.880 and flat, flat, flat. They don't care. They could be average, 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.640 but they gonna they gonna attack you. He's like, okay, okay, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.160 like thinking it's just a game and talking. We get 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.880 we get out there and they man, they ad him. Everybody. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:41.160 I'm like, come over here, and that's figure it out, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.480 you know what I'm saying, you know, figure out the 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.280 way of life down here. You know, we can see 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.680 what's going on. I got I got y'all. I don't 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.560 I got y'all, but I swear to god, that motherfucker 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.520 Josh McRoberts wasn't an issue. Yeah, it was sixteen. He 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.320 was active seven. He was doing that bitch off the 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.200 glass he was putting. He was a number one player 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:08.400 Nigga with Jerald Green and that old five class. So 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:19.920 and then I mean, of course you but three. Yeah, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:25.040 but we got we we moved because everybody can move. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:36.360 It was damn near off. That front court is retarded easy. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.559 We had like a Cliff Clint Scale. He was our 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.120 point guard from New York, but he was more so 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.959 like get everybody in the in the floor, floor the things. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.360 And he was more scrappy from New York, so he 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.240 mightn't have his way with him, he would have gave 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.600 him fist. As far as Michael Mike defensively, he would 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.400 have probably just got got up under him. I'm not 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.480 saying like as far as like he probably would have 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.440 outscored him, because that's that wasn't his that wasn't his job. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.240 You know what I'm saying, y'all had too much going on. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.560 But that's what I'm saying. This is these niggas said 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.200 vores creating, Oh yeah, creating then I'm sorry, I would 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.840 get your name right. He was nasty. He was six 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.640 four six five. Yeah, I played against the guard b 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:20.559 they was deep. Did rind him every round with y'all? No, No, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.400 we never have been cheating. It was we got Brandon 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.920 Rush for a couple. They was hating on this. You 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.120 can't have him played with but he was so sted 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.520 about that one. But yeah, that was good because I 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.280 didn't know. I didn't even know Mike Mercer played with y'all. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.240 I thought he always just played with the Georgia Stars 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.480 with Lou Yeah, I got him, got him like the 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.600 last year he was. He was younger than that, so 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.360 that helped him out. Though they helped him out big, 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.280 though they put him on a different stage. I think 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.439 he went he went to Georgia, Yep, he did. Yeah, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.280 but that's he's a good he's a good dude though. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.480 I still talk. Shout to Mike. He went to the US. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.520 It's hard, yeah, man, I don't know, man, AJ would 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.160 have been tough to close game though. It would have 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.440 been a close game. Eric's going. I think we were 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.560 probably different. It was. I think we would probably probably 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.520 would have goten because you and the White It was 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.160 like we was more defensive oriented too though, So just 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.640 to see how y'all played defense in the league, I can't. Yeah, 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.559 shot real bro, Yeah, I'm gonna give it to you. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.160 Ain't nobody driving on the No, No, it's a shout 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:25.920 out to the Indie Heat team though. We're gonna rep 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:32.520 that's a good team though, right yeah, ANBA players like, yeah, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.920 what was you? We was going to be talking. I 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.199 just told you you had one though, right NA was 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.880 my team? Nah? Nah my year in the Heat to 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.600 the Big Time final four. But yeah, probably that's a 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.560 big broo. But you was killing. I was killed, That's 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.240 what I'm saying. But feel frame I was killing. We 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.920 ain't we ain't had nobody else brother. I mean, we 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.559 ain't nobody else that went to like a big time 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.760 college or not. Like then we was just a good team. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.120 So shit, you know, how did you get to Oak Hill? 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.560 Like what's that conversation? Like how was you recruited with that? 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.280 Because I imagine what I'm saying. You're talking about your 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.640 AU team in the city, like y'all had the hitters 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.839 already down there? How was it for you to leave home? 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.360 And you know what I'm saying, because now we're old 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.040 enough to see how Oak Hill was Like then we're 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.800 like a mini college, Like how was that for you 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.040 mentally to get prepared to just like go on campus 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.000 a hoop? Yeah? It was. It was good. I mean, 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.920 well it was. It was kind of funny like you 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.560 know back in the day, you know, like the AU 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.240 circuit with beef with the head coaches, but the high 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.000 school teams, you know what I'm saying, Like they wouldn't 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.520 talk to each other and stuff like that. There wasn't 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.719 on the same page. And now it's different, you know 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.400 what I'm saying. But in my right so so like 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.160 so like I had like an old old white coach. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.520 He was like an old fashioned coach when I went 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.120 to Mikiten High School and uh yeah, I was on 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.079 a He was like, man, you got to play on 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.400 the block. But then I had just cracked the top 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.040 five in the country in my in my in my 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.000 in my class. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm like, shit, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.160 I can't. I'm not doing that, Like I might find 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.600 just sit my ass on the block and be like hey, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.480 drop step prototypical big type shit like. And then I 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.960 had a point guard who was younger. He was younger, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.280 he was like a sophomore. So he'll just if you 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.960 see pressure heat advancing the ball, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.800 you take the ship, you know what I'm saying. So 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.680 I'm taking it like you know, I'm like i might 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.079 break the playoff boom boom, but I'm scoring, you know 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.560 what I'm saying. And I had another another dude on 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.640 my team, more assaultment. He played in the league too. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.320 He played in the league too when the Rice University. Yeah, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.880 but he was a year ahead of me. He was 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.760 like a senior and I was a junior. And you know, 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.600 the coach is doing all kind of just jankie stuff 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.800 like like I would I would, I would like go 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.600 in the weight room. But I'd be finessing the wait 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.680 wait room coach like you know what I'm saying. Because 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.559 that was like the football team, so they like squats, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.800 bitch press, maxing out dead lips, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.559 So like when I'm going in like so so like 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.600 early on in the in the year, like what would 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.840 be good? It was like he would pull me out 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.160 and show me like, hey man, I don't want you 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.920 shooting no more threes like you shooting me like the 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.080 three soth'ing like like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.120 this part of my game, I'm trying to like talk 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:16.920 to him about like what's going on. He's like, man. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.560 So then like after a while, I just try to 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.720 Like i'd be like, hey man, coach Westfield want me. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.040 Like whenever we go get doing it like the squads 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.320 and stuff like that, a coach is like, hey man, 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.360 coach Westfield want me. So I go in there and 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:32.880 I used to go back there to the back by 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.120 the locker room so he wouldn't be back there. So 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.360 I like be back there behind his desk and shit 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.040 like I put so I pulled up, so I pulled 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.040 like a little fire like a cabinet out. So it's 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.560 like long ass like with my like mail in there, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.480 with like letters of colleges, damn with my name on it, 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.400 you know what I'm saying. So like he would not 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.520 you wouldn't give he wouldn't give me my man. And 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.280 it was like you can name, you can name the 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.160 college they was in there, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.520 So I'm like, I'm like, damn, like they already sending 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.160 it to my house. Somebody, Why the why the hell 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:05.600 you ain't why the hell you ain't give him a 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.960 damn man? You had a bad relationship, Like I mean, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.480 because we didn't have a bad relationship, because the only 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.080 reason why we had a bad relationship because he wanted 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.360 me to do something that I wasn't. I wasn't I 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.400 wasn't gonna jeopardize my future right to make for his 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.400 his traditional needs. That's we understand what I'm saying. Like 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.160 I'm not gonna say like we had a bad relationship. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.080 We just didn't see. We didn't see we weren't on 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.080 the same page, you know what I'm saying. So it 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.400 got to the point where like I didn't I never 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.360 questioned him about it. You know what I'm saying, because 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.200 I was like, like you you know I it is 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.760 back in the day, like when when when you saw 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.760 that after Like they're gonna call your parents, they're gonna 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.800 blow your phone up, they're gonna send they're gonna find 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.640 out what your address is, they gonna send you letters. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.080 Probably even to this day they probably do the same 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:54.680 thing when it comes to recruiting. But we had a 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.560 we had a conversation one day. He was like Josh 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.400 him telling you if you if if you shoot one three, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.680 I'm gonna sit you down. And we had we had 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.120 just beat Willer, Like Willer was like our competence, like 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.160 our main competition, and they was number one in the state. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.920 We just upset of them, the uh powerhouse. You know 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.400 what I'm saying. Down there, yeah, down there in Atlanta, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.560 they got the number one player in the nextion. I said, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:21.520 I call you yea. So they say to this day 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:27.280 continue that tradition. So we we just beat them. So 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.560 we're playing a bad like a bad team in our 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.440 in our in our in our region, and uh, I 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.360 shoot a three pulled me out, you know what I'm saying, yea. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.040 So like I'm pissed. You know what I'm saying, Like 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.400 I'm hot dog like. So I'm just sitting on the 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:46.200 I'm sitting on the bench and uh and and and 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.640 uh he taks, takes uh more assaultment out right. So 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.880 he's like, someone's like, man, coach, you gotta put his 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.480 back in. You gotta put one of us back in. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.560 You gotta put his back in. I said, I said don't. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.960 I said, don't. Don't tell him nothing. He can't coach anywhere. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.960 Oh So, like he was like, so he face got 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:10.480 raised waiting that. I was like, all right, cool, you 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.480 know what I'm saying. So I get up sit on 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.760 in the bench. Know I'm sitting I'm just watching the games. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.720 It's like they started about to lose, you know what 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.719 I'm saying. So he put me back in and he 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.800 was like, uh, we we end up winning. So we 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.840 get we're in, we're in the locker room. He was like, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.359 if you ever if you ever talk to me like 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.600 that again, you'll never put on the kitchen I saw. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.840 I just explode it. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.439 like that, fuck this school. I can't. I'm like, you know, 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.800 like back in the day, like you know when you start, man, 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.480 you did like you had this jersey. You know what 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.320 I'm saying. So I'm like, when I get out of 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.200 the locker room, my dad see me crying and shit, 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:49.639 you know what I'm saying. So my dad was like, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.159 what that what's going on? I was like, man, I 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.760 saw I tell him what's going on? And uh we 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.520 we both dried. He drive me to the to the 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.359 campus and he sit there and have a conversation. I 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.520 don't know we I come in and then they have 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.160 a conversation. I leave and he have enohing. He talked 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.119 to him for a little bit, but then after a 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.239 while he was just like he came out. He was like, 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.119 don't say nothing else. You know what I'm saying. Just 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.119 finished the season, not strong, and I'm gonna find you 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.800 somewhere else to go, you know what I'm saying. So 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.320 that's all right. He called my uh you coach Resting Peace, Uh, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:25.800 Coach Prather he called him and coach pratheror called Steve Smith. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.040 Was like he put my dad on the phone. My 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:29.679 dad was like, hey, man, I got a player for you. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.840 So uh so he was like, oh, uh, you know, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.000 what's the player's name? So he told told him my name. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.919 He was like, oh, I ain't never heard of him. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.440 He said, you're a damn lie. You know you heard 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.560 Josh just like you know. It kind of checked him 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.919 a little bit, like, let's just bring your ass up 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.360 to Bob Gibbons, you know what I'm saying, so you'll 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.959 see him for the first time. So he, uh, he 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.679 came to Bob Gibbers and he was like, all right, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.960 cool shit, Yeah, yea. I wanted y'all want him. So 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.679 that's that's how I got up there. But when I 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.240 got up there, we we was driving. I had missed 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.000 probably like two weeks of my my senior year already 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.520 because it started like in September, and in Atlanta you 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.040 started you started August, like early August. You started schooling August. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.159 So I get up there and I'm smelling like skunk. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:17.800 I'm driving with my dad. I'm like, man, what the 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.520 hell is that smell? Like shit? What is that smell? 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.679 Day like that skunk? Son from the country down there 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:28.440 in Georgia. I turn this around, turn this thing around, man, 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.879 get me out of here. Man. He was like, he 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.080 was like, nah, man, you can't. You can't go back. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.399 You gotta. It's like, shit, it's over with you gotta 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.240 just this was school you're going too. So I was 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.199 like I just like shit, I had to get mentally focused. 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:42.480 I'm like, man, I'm gonna be up here for the 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.120 for like seven months without seeing my my my siblings 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.760 and my mom and dad and stuff like that. So 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.480 that's it was. It was good for my progression for 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.200 what I was doing for I had my mind set 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.919 out to do. And that's crazy because like obviously, if 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.800 you don't know where Okill is, you can tell him 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.840 it's nothing where Okill is. But Okaill facts the middle 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.320 of the middle of nowhere. Probably the the mall we 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.800 used to get dressed up for. It was Winston sailing 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:13.679 down there to wait for it. Our best girl on 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.960 Dog and go down there and dog. It's about an 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:20.200 hour and a half away, about an hour and a half, 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.600 Like you said, it's mouth of Wilston Virgains, the middle 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.520 of nowhere. But if you I mean, but if you 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.840 want to like get your child mentally focused and block 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.600 out all this uh, all this internet, Instagram fame stuff, 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.280 that's still the probably the best school to take them to. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.760 Like you know, you still got even I went to 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.760 you know, because my kids are young, I mean the 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.920 older now, so I do a little. I've been troughing 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.080 the air stuff. And one of my younger kids play 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.960 football too, at a high level. He plays on the 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:53.359 Battle Circuit. So their national championship down there in Florida, 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.320 so they had had a tournament, and I amg and 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.840 I'm like, man, it's a mega campus. But it's like 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.000 you can get super distracted too, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.200 I can see where it could be a distraction. So 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.480 I'm like, man, oh, kid, Like, if you really want 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:11.280 to lock in and and really like you know what 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.239 I'm saying, I'm telling you, and you want to get 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.280 your kids to like a mature level state of mind, 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.800 that that's that's a really good school, especially now that 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.160 you know what I'm saying. You got the nil money 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.280 coming in, boys getting paid you obviously coming straight out 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:24.760 of our school. We don't get to that shortly. But 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:26.960 how you feel about that? Like you know what I'm saying. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:28.920 I'm sure you have some parks to being a top player, 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.720 but like now you can make seven meals as a sophomore. 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.359 That shit crazy. I mean, it's like I think We 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.000 were talking about that before the podcast, not about the 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:45.000 nil stuff about but by how people can finesse their rankings, 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:50.720 by the way they can manipulate social media, you know 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.879 what I'm saying. So it's like there's plenty of times 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.359 where a kid or a parent or somebody I know 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.840 it be like a man this kids wants to play 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.280 for a team, and he sends me a couple of 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.640 clips of the kid making shots and then I see 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.080 him and he's trash. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.760 no disrespect to the no disrespect to the you know 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.840 you know what I'm no dispect to the you know 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.240 what I'm saying to the kids that I've seen, But 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.000 it's really the disrespect to the to the people that 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.440 sent me some of those videos. Now I'm not gonna 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.320 say all of them, you know what I'm saying, are 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.040 are not good. But it's like now I'm at a 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:28.439 point where I like, I don't want to see no 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.320 more videos, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.280 want to see no more videos of nobody, like let 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:33.560 me see what he looked like on the five on 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:37.960 five said yeah, and its it's like nowadays, these kids 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:42.040 can can pump fake you and and it's like I'm 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.440 I'm older now, so like I'm like, damn, I see 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.720 how these gems can get fucking food. You know what 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.720 I'm saying, They can get tricked because I literally got 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.560 two kids. I mean, like I like on I got 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.320 I got like some I got kids and like on 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.800 my teams, and it's it's some kids that can work out. 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.879 Like as far as the workout cones and stuff, they 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.960 would kill it, kill it, kill it, make the shots 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:08.720 and you know what I'm saying. And I got a 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.080 kid that might look look like some trash and that shit. 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:15.040 But when when they played five on five, he wears 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.040 they would wear that shit out. You know what I'm saying, 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.920 They would wear the cone, Nigga, they would wear the 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.840 cone kid out all day long. That's a good segment 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:30.520 because a segue because you for show wasn't no man, 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.440 no man, look man, Josh should just kick my ass 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.560 in the Lena. He kicked my ass when it came 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.000 to like the shooting and the man and man was 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.400 going not for ten ten fen I was like six 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:49.000 foot ten seven ften like you know, but that's that 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.120 was one of the main reasons why he got picked 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.840 six and I got picked seventeen. But because but when 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.639 we were playing two on two, I dominated it. But 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.360 it was as far as like shooting and dribbling skills. 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:05.760 I didn't have no nigga, i't had no trainers help him. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.440 Like you know, it was probably like a six month, 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.359 six month thing with John Lucas. He was trying to 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.159 help me a little bit, trying to see if that 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.600 if that fuck asks high school coach wouldn't let you cook. 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.000 That's That's what I'd be saying to about like we 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:26.160 have that problem here, bro like where kids are forced 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.520 to motherfucker be alonzo morning and I feel like coaches 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.680 only coached for the moment. They don't coach for these 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.320 kids future they want. I mean, your coach was just 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.960 like he's trying to win right now boxing not thinking 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.479 like this, nigga, Jay are really a small four. Let 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.400 him dumple that bitch between the legs and go out 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.640 of bands. It's my best player, you know what I mean. 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.960 I think you gotta let kids play through mistakes because 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.760 a lot of these kids motherfucker's that we know. I 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.920 ain't gonna say nobody name, but my motherfucker's six four centers. Yeah, 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:56.520 that's crazy. And then when they get to college, they 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.119 get a route awakening in this a motherfucker six twelve 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.679 really gotta you gotta play the one now, it's shit spooky, 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:11.880 y'all left hand this gug now, y'all mama and them 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.000 they mad they sent you to this big school when 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:22.439 y'all ass should have went to motherfucking I just I 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.760 don't know about that ship. Just be having me so 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.919 mad man, when these kids get gassed, and it just 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:29.960 goes back to what you were saying, how you can 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:33.800 finesse with my fuck on the really mixtape board because 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.680 we got some people here where I'll be like, man, 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.560 he ain't like that. I ain't gonna see a lot too. 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:44.440 I'm mean no, like, just like these these these colleges, 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.280 they have all these young kids and they're losing. You 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.840 got all these McDonald's all Americans, how to like, dog 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.080 that shit's not supposed to happen. I don't give a 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.439 damn that young enough bro talking about it, y'all are 0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.480 y'all are McDonald's all Americans? Bro? That's the pressure behind 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.280 that having that tag on you. You got to produce 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.880 at the next level, especially if you were a number 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.760 one player in the nation, you're supposed to be trashing 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.520 that ship because I know Kevin Durant did it. That's 0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:17.800 a fact, Michael Beasley did. They trashed college college basketball 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.800 like when they came into when they came into it. 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.520 This ship might have stopped Anthony Davis. But you know, 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.560 you gotta thinking about Anthony Davis played with two years 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:32.000 though right I thought he played. I'm thinking about somebody 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:38.560 else freshman is that coming in and dominated? Zion dominated her? 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:43.480 He did? That was both assisted. Nah, I didn't either. 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.840 He shot. He shot every time he did, but twenty 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:56.280 that's djoo get it? Why we do for it? I 0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:01.920 mean what we're talking about Pike nigga, he's supposed to bastball. 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.760 You're right, though, bro, I just I don't really know 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.440 what the disconnect is. I don't know if it is 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.679 it because the nil M how much money you think 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.960 you would have got coming out of high school, coming 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.639 especially in the Hoak Hill. First of all, I want 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.720 my parents are Christian, so I wouldn't even had no 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.800 social media. Damn, you know what I'm saying. I probably 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:27.439 still then get I don't know I have no idea. 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.760 They probably would have had to. I probably would have 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.600 had somebody running my Instagram. If my parents would have knew, 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.119 I would have got a lot that much. I probably 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:38.240 wouldn't have seen the Instagram. But as long as you 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.600 see that check though, man, probably about like you said, 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.359 a seven, yeah, I was three class and like y'all 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:48.880 were so famous. Yea, I was famous. But I think 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.120 Zion was the first one to crack the internet when 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.480 it came to high school players being famous. Yea, yeah, 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.280 because he had your followers. He said, he had the 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.560 perfect marriage. He had the elite footage with the Elite 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.800 game exactly. He was one of the few who had 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.720 that crazy light. He was still record shit and when 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.400 you've seen it, he was still doing it in real 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:11.520 life easy, still doing it crazy. But y'all was like 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.320 that though, Yeah, like the shit I seen you do, man, 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.439 like they had internet like that, Man, we can't you 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:26.240 can't even the highlight chase you you see it though, 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:33.680 Like it's like exactly, we used to watch blurry right quality, 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:39.360 so like you gotta see Okay mixtape, so blurry dog. 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.320 I'm like, damn dog. But the shit y'all was doing 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.360 if they would have had that on video like they 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:49.680 do now. Yeah, man, I've seen one with Rondo caught one. 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.040 He threw Rondo the lib he dunked it like they 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:57.640 was well, was clowning. Okay, man, because Lou Williams shit 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:03.520 is retarded. Georgia take yeah, the guy when he had 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:08.200 against Manta Ellis, that was that was elude too. She 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.040 would have had that on film. Man, man, come special. 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.960 But you know what I'm saying, You do your thinking, Okay, 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.600 obviously you know what I'm saying. It's time to start 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.160 thinking about post high school. You know what I'm saying. 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.040 You know it's it's a school in Indiana that you 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.440 know what I'm saying. We thought you was going to see. 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.800 You know what I'm saying. How did that go? You 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.560 know what I'm saying, legendary? I used stories. That was 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:33.360 the only school I visited. Damn uh uh. I think 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.680 when that was. That was when I met Mike Davis. 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.600 It was so like I was going to Georgia but 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.480 with Jim Herritt. But then that thing happened with Cole 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:53.120 when he when he told about the basketball, he was 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.800 he was the one messing up. He was the one 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.160 messing up at at school and and they was taking 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.480 care of his mama's bills and a that stuff. And 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.920 then and then you do that now now now now 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:08.640 talk about Charleston before. He might have been the first 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:14.400 one because he fucked up a lot. But I'm telling 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.120 you who did He did brouh and he really he 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:22.920 really fucked up the Georgia basketball everything ever done it. 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.160 Look it's trash. Yeah, it's bad right now. It might 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.400 be rebuilding hopefully with this new coach that we had, 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.480 but who know, Like that's what I'm saying. But I 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.920 was able to try to convince him to go there. Yeah, yeah, 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.080 he was. Yeah, he was one of my one of 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.880 my young kids. When I met him at the That's 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.040 Hard at the top one hundred camp. You know, he 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.520 was he was staying with me for like a couple 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.120 of weeks, uh, senior in high school, that's all that's 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.480 you know, I was mentoring for a little bit. And 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.280 then you know I kind of threw that Georgia in 0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.640 his ear because he was committed to Florida State. Sorry 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.040 Florida State fans. You know I was, you know, I 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.760 wanted to be He was a trouble laser. You know 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.920 when the Georgia was another one pick that's that's that's crazy. 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:10.760 That's his man. So he's been he's been real, real one. Yeah, 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:17.360 real man. I understood. Gotta be was crazy. I was 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.200 thinking that because when I met you, all you talked 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:24.080 about was Georgia, Georgia, football, Georgia, everything. And I'm like, hell, 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.000 was he going to Indiana? Yeah? Because but then but then, 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.120 you know, that's what happened. So I left it. I 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.680 left it all open. So everybody started coming to my schools, 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.400 I mean to my school, uh my junior year. Everybody, 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.000 like all the head coaches from each school was coming. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.600 And then Mike Davis came, and I just you know 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.280 what I'm saying. I was like, Okay, I'm rocking with 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:49.520 this ar that nice bag. My dad was My dad 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.560 was the bad was coming anyway. That's you know what 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.520 I'm saying, So talk about it. I don't like my 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.360 dad was just sitting like you can go to whatever 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:01.959 I got recruited about. I know how they got all 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:11.760 they get foosers shout to Cavin Simpson. No, but facts, 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.480 see that's that's the only good thing about nil. You. 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.760 I don't know that's the only good thing that but 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:27.320 but but it was nothing like that. Brown paper bags 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.800 have been nice too, because y'all, y'all would have had 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:43.440 Robert BADJ, Ratliff, Bracy Right he was then who was 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.720 the DJ White. I just find out recently on the 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.160 Hands podcast that Bracey Right was supposed to go to 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.880 Duke instead of JJ, like they was gonna they was 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.760 recruiting him over like whoever committed first is gonna go. 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.960 I thought she was crazy. I didn't know that. But yeah, 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.440 had that squad, it was gonna be life. It was 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.920 gonna change with you, bro. They needed that, see, and 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.520 that's why I never I never fucked with Like I said, 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.640 I've been following you for a minute though, but I 0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:13.720 never fucked fuck. Are you produe all that shit a school? 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.160 I was like, damn, they about to get a nick 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.680 because but my h but this this is how I 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:26.280 went though. I called my daddy, was like January. Yeah, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.880 I remember this day like it was yesterday. I was called. 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.920 I called my dad. I was super excited. I just 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:36.400 uh past my act. So I'm calling with like super 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:41.200 excitement Dad, man, I qualified, Man, I get to go 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.800 to college. You know what I'm saying, like I'm excited, 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.120 you know what I'm saying, Because I had I had 0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:49.160 took my final visits already and like November or something 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.240 like it was, I had midnight madness. I had went 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.520 there and we had all we was all there and 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.560 Jeff Newton shout out to Jeff Newton and uh A. 0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.680 J Moyer was there, shout out him too. He was. 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.200 They took campus, they took us around campus and stuff 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.399 like that. And then I was like, man, I said. 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.200 I was like, man, we uh said, said I'm going 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:12.680 in the end. The next year, We're going in the end. 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.200 He was like, man, congratulations son. You know. He was like, 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.640 but you know you projected to go uh one through 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:26.400 twenty he said, we ain't going in tell you like, 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.480 so you know, get that get that mindset out of 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.280 your mind, and you know, lift lift you some more weights, 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.120 lift you most, lift you some more weights. Stop bullishing 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:41.359 in the weight bro. He was like. So he was like, 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:42.840 you know, he was like, you know, it's trying to 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.239 be trying to be grown man. Shit. So I was like, 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:50.359 I said, damn, I said, uh. I said, okay, he said, yeah, 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.600 you see all them shoes you've been getting them, reboxing them, 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.000 d the shoes and made them. Yeah. Yeah, they on 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.160 the line. So shit, don't be bullised, don't suck it up, 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.240 you know what I'm saying. So I was like, yeah, alright, alright, alright, 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.239 you know what I'm saying. So I'm like like, damn, 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:05.799 you know what I mean, because I'm like in my mind, 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.680 I'm like, I get shit. I can't can't be no 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.319 kid no more. I got a lock in. Yeah, So 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.799 I was like, you know, I was, I was. I 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.440 wanted to go you know what I'm saying. I did 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.200 want it to go. Fuck, But you know, my ship, 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.680 you know, we was, we didn't. It was unfortunate growing up. 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.839 We didn't have no money. Man. Both my parents are 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:31.040 in foreclosure, bankruptcy, you know what I'm saying. So all 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.000 that was going on, it was nothing that they get 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.919 they could get us to really get out the whole 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.279 with I had to be the one, you know what 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.160 I'm saying. So it's a blessing though, Yeah, absolutely, man. 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.000 I mean, I thank God every day and we gonna 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.360 talk about you know what, I'm see your draft process 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.200 stuff is like I mean, for both of y'all know 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.319 what I'm saying comfort situations to where you know you're young, 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.160 you're rich, and your family looking at you like shit, 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.640 what's up with it? That's a different type of pressure 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.759 that people don't understand. Like people think, oh, young you 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.080 this your life is great. Nah, I'm young, but I'm 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.680 an opportunity. So like now everything you do is super 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.080 empiphied and especially you know what I'm saying, coming straight 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:05.600 out of high school, a lot of people don't do 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.680 that shit. So you had to go through that process 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.560 squeaky clean, Like how was your process? You know what 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.799 I'm saying, because I know even with bro like they 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.040 interview people from back crib crib like background checks at 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.680 seeing what you did when you was eight years old, 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.319 with you eight when you was in second grade, Like 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.640 how was your process? Like all right, cool, it's a 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.960 business now and now you gotta go work out against 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.239 professionals every day, Like how is that mindset switching? How 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:27.759 was your drive process? Because you know what I'm saying, 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.680 you had a good you know what I'm saying, you 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.600 went first round and you went to the crib, Like 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.000 how was all that for you mentally prepared to be 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.600 to go play at the crib. I mean a shout 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.480 out to my parents. You know what I'm saying. I 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.400 mean they're you know what i mean, Like now that 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.680 you see and you're a part of the air. You 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.239 circle now, so you see how these kids can get 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.200 you can get messed up. It's their parents. Yeah, So 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.920 you know, I don't care about it. I don't care 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.719 about how talented the kid is. I recruit the parent, 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.319 you know, I first see how talented the kid is. 0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.759 I see then I see the parent, and then I 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:01.720 want to engage with the parenting. And I'm like, okay, 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.440 I can I can rock with the parent. H And 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.760 then you know, like most most people like to see 0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.439 uh stability, uh stability, you know what I'm saying. They'd 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.520 like to see households with stable with with like you know, 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.839 my man dad, you know what I'm saying. And and 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:18.399 and if it's not like that, they like to see 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.640 great co parenting, you know what I'm saying. So when 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.640 it's not, when it's a little off balanced right there, 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.400 then uh, that's where the disconnect's going to come in. 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.360 When that that that that those are little things that 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.400 that that why kids you know, don't make it. You 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.799 know what I'm saying some some some people don't make it, 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:37.479 you know. And uh, you know my dad taking talking 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.399 to me every day about what what what was going 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.319 on and what I need to get my mind ready for, 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.080 uh coming into the league as a as a kid, 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.040 uh playing against grown man you know man. So I 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.880 mean you never know, as you never know what you're 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.040 what you what you're gonna face until you get there, 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.360 you know what I'm saying. Like shit, you you you 0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.080 know you're confident, you're ready. Uh, just like shit Like Jeff, 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.520 it was like I remember yesterday we was in the 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.080 playoff game or it was it might have been a 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.480 year after the playoffs, and uh, this is when he 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.160 was like taking a role up the starting point guard 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:14.799 and he was cooking the ass. He was like he 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.719 was cooking it in the first first half and he 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.920 was talking shit like how mother fucks game fuck with me? 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.400 Like you know what I'm saying. Like he like so 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.319 they was like they look like who you know they 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.400 look they're always looking at somebody like that when you 0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.439 because they wanted to check you. You You know what I'm saying. 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.319 That was the Selton team that was the one that 0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.520 was gonna talk trash to you and look at you, 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.160 look down on you. But it was what it was. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:36.520 You know, you had to pay how much to the 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.319 to those Hall of famers. But you know, you gotta 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.560 have a sense of you gotta have an attitude of 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.479 a pride and confidence when you make it to that level, 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.440 like because you know, once you get on that stage, 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.480 and there was so many people that that had that 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.359 that that played basketball. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.880 And gud and guy gave you the opportunity to be 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.480 that challenging and then bless you with by selecting you 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:04.880 as some of the few that that that could be 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.360 able to put one of those jerseys on. And what's crazy, 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:08.319 Like you said, you know what I'm saying, you've been 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.879 a high school phenom. Nowadays, you see so many high 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.719 school phenoms drink the cool like way before they ready. Yeah, 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.600 and then that's what you're seeing. These kids. They're making 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.120 money young, but they're fizzling out young. They ain't even 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.120 getting a chance of getting the lead, getting rotation to 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.160 realize all right, you know at some point you do 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.240 how to play. Yeah, that's because that's because like you said, 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.880 some of these kids are getting influenced in these these parents. 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.080 It's like that, Uh, what's that? What's that? What you're 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.080 talking about? Will? It's the little kids? What's that? What's 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.720 the Garrett Cole like he started off young, the parents 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.399 blew the bag, you know, he grown up and then 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.520 having the money, you know what I'm saying. So that's 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.160 like that's can of that? Can that can scary? Scary 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.480 be the case for some of the some of these 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.439 kids nowadays with these n IL deals and then they're 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:58.160 getting these they're getting this money. And once you get 0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.560 the money, you get access to a lot of other things, 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.200 you know what I'm saying about it. And you know that, 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.919 right and you you we all know that, right. So 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.200 once you get access to to to to to somebody, 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.279 you know, everything opens up for you in your life. 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:13.719 And then who's gonna tell you what to do when 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:17.719 when when you're the one it's the bread winner. Fact, 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.239 you have to kind of create, you have to kind 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.600 of keep that that that mental blockage of of of 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.880 having that tunnel vision on still wanting to make it 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:29.359 to the NBA, because man, seven million is a lot 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.920 of money, man, you know what I'm saying. So if 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.040 a if a kid. I you know, I commended We 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.160 haven't seen it yet, but I commend a kid that 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.839 is that is making that type of money and and 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:46.759 uh and still uh makes it to the NFL or NBA. Yeah, 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:48.560 I want to see it. I want to see the event. 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.680 Grab a hold of you. Once you got drafted, and 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.000 you know what I'm saying, you now the bread winner 0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.319 of the family and shit. So it's kind of you 0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:03.240 can't take financial advice from no disrespect yea, rather seeking 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.839 from somebody else who's you know what I mean, been 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.240 through it, maybe a couple of years, was it? Anybody 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.799 on the team. Once you got there, absolutely absolutely come here. 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:27.879 Let me walker. That's the best to learn from. What 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.080 I'm saying is I say it's the best to learn 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.480 from because somebody that shiited on millions of mills of 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.319 dollars and tell you what not to do, but tell 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:38.840 you about hearing what I tell him what I do 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:45.439 because because when I met yeah, he showed me ten 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.719 thousand city. So I'm like, day, that's a lot of 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.800 But I was trying to show them nigga some loves not. 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:56.600 He a good dude though, Yeah, one of the best. Yeah, 0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:01.719 he he took me on this wing. It was funny man, 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.319 because he never showed me the he The only place 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.200 he took me to was was Magic City, but that 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:12.000 was it. But it was like, uh, he never brought 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.680 anything around me as far as like, no female never 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.279 threw me because they knew I was young. You know 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.440 what I'm saying. I was. It was people in the 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.799 organization that was trying to introduce me to their daughters. Wow, 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:23.719 you know what I'm saying. Because I was young. You 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.640 know what I'm saying. I was a teenager. I was 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.319 still you know what I'm saying. So they was really like, 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.440 you know, you know, they were trying to turn turn 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:38.840 them up, to turn them. But so you know, but 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.120 I always kept everything professional when it came to to 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.560 basketball because I ain't you know what it was. So 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.120 it's so many other other ways to do things. You 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.920 didn't have to. You don't have to, you know what 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.160 I'm saying, Like, you didn't have to get that thirsty. 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:53.920 You know what I'm saying. Who was the gym when 0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.239 you got drafted? It was Billy Knight. You want us 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.640 something crazy? Billy Knight daughter went to our high school, 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:05.640 listened with Indiana Damn probably gett out of the head 0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:14.760 bands and nikes. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, silly, 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:24.240 yeah yeah, so generational wealth. Yeah, that's funny. But yeah, 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.160 that was it. That was that was it. That was 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.439 one of them. But he was the one who kind 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.920 of changed the game of basketball too. He was the 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.680 one that kept drafting six players, kept drafting six eight. 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.800 But it's like, you know, he drafted, he drafted Josh Churches, 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:44.560 then me, then he drafted, uh, Marvin Williams, then he 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.080 drafted Sheldon Williams, then he drafted he drafted the shelldo 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.040 Win was like six, but I was. But you know, 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.040 you know, he didn't draft Chris Paul because he was 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.759 like Chris Paul was, wasn't taught, wasn't bigger than his 0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:02.040 wife's real ship. So did But then he started taking though, 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.000 and that's when it was on the line. So that's 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:06.879 when he started trying to find people. He was trying 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.879 to find I think he tried to he drafted a law. Yeah, 0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:17.360 he was just trying. He was trying. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.520 but it was too little, too late, because you like 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.120 you're gonna drop, you drag the shielding and then you 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.920 know what I'm saying he went went I think at that, 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.640 but then they had kind of fiddle with him out 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:31.200 and it was rick Son. Yeah. It was the right 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:35.279 thing really though. He really had the vision for basketball today. Yeah, 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.440 he do talk about it if he do. The teams 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.879 that he has, he's a visionary. He's a visionary for sure, 0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:44.880 the teams that he's Yeah, because he was right, we 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.719 switched everything like that's that's how he played defense. That's 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.080 why they has That's why it was sucking that hated me. 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:57.439 I was too short maybe like switch switching everything. Though 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.279 I ain't hate him out, like ship, come on with it. Yeah, 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.560 I used to big for a point guard. I was like, man, 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.160 I was like, man, we can't get christ Paul. I 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.719 love Marvin to death, but I'm like, man, I need 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.879 a lot of us something, man, a little lot of two, 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.680 you know, man, because I was I used to run 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:20.000 the wing. Marvin would getting up on the break. No, 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.279 you know, mar marble gon kid, you shoot do his 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.440 little you know he gonna court get your little court 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.040 mcgetty action. I need to get him a file, you 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.399 know what I'm saying. So yeah, you know what I mean. 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:34.520 So knock some shots down, but man, Chris, Chris Paul 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.600 was ready. Man. That's a generational that's a generational player. 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:44.880 He was ready to rondo. Yeah yeah, I was missing 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:49.200 and I had to break players off with I would 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.080 have turned your bag up to I'm telling you it 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.280 would have because you would have made it so easy. 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:58.000 It made it easy when you got baby thought but 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:06.239 he was older. I had about defense. That was we that. 0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.520 He was like, hey man, goddamn baby, a little bit 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.720 play a little bit of something. You know. We played cards, gambling, 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:19.200 talking ship to each other like tint. The conversations you 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.720 were like, man, damn baby, damn. You know I still 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:28.560 talk today like like like baby baby, hey man, listen, man, 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.759 they didn't bring me here to wild y'all with my 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.920 motherfucking defense. They brought me here to shoot that thing. 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:40.120 He said, Josh, get my back, Say Josh, you going 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.440 around to get my back? Crying. He one of the 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:50.080 best I ever knew. Man. He's leg leg legend nigga. 0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:54.560 Always big. Starting when he retired, he started getting big 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.080 body push ups all day. He used to do the 0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:01.760 little twist perfect when they first came in from Marcial Swack, 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.680 We love Mike Baby with him. I want to take 0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.279 it back though, definitely. So on your draft process, like 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.960 how many teams did you work out for? Man? Probably 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.480 like twelve, twelve thirteen. I was. I was trying to 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.080 catch the fabe with everybody. Man. I was because I 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.960 was younger and I just wanted to show I want 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:21.920 to I want to work out with anybody. You know 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.640 what I'm saying, anybody, I'll think that's in front of me, 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.279 come on with it. But you know, lou All dang 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.239 played the smart world. He he was already like a 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:34.279 lot top eight or nine a lot. So he he 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.200 was working out that dude. He was like, y'all can 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.919 come catch me a dude like Tea. He was working 0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.160 up with nobody. Yeah, He's like, I'm not working out 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.680 with nobody, y'all. Just then he only he only did 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:48.520 one year a dude. Yeah, So he did that. And 0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:51.080 then I worked out with Josh Cheers maybe twice with 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.160 the front. I wouldn't within it in Atlanta, and then DC. 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.319 I caught him in DC. I worked out they had 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.600 a better workout with him. DC didn't. He didn't want to. 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.759 He didn't work out with me no more. And then 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:06.560 uh I had him and Eagle Dollar in in DC, 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.840 Iggy and then I was supposed to work out with 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:13.040 Iggy in Philadelphia and he can't. They canceled, So I 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.080 was I worked out with somebody else, like a second 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.360 round draft pick. We know why they canceled because we 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:18.920 know don't know who they took right there. Yeah, and 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:22.200 then we uh yeah, then we worked out. Then we 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:31.200 was with I think Clippers, bobcats R. Yeah, it was. 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.880 It was. I worked out for a couple of teams. Yeah, Seattle, 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.319 I wanted to seattle't work out, was get any guarantees, 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.400 like uh, because I got a guarantee at seventeen And 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.279 when they ain't called my name, I was sick. Didn't 0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.520 I was sick when they called my name was because 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.960 I didn't get no guarantees. They was like they told me. 0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.960 They was like look, it was like shit. It was 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.800 like between Josh Child just Low there was like Josh 0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.760 Shild just who they said, Josh Child, just Eagle Dollar. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.720 Me was gonna slip. So like I ain't. I hadn't 0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.960 worked out for like Miami them teams like past seventeen 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:12.080 with the workout for him. Yeah. So so when I 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.280 started seeing my like it was following the line. Boom 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.360 the Picks was following the line. Then we called the 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.520 Atlanta's like, now we ain't He's not what we're looking for. 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.680 A sea So they picked Josh. Yeah. So I'm like, 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.719 I'm thinking they gonna pick Eagle Dollar. Yeah. So when 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:31.680 they picked Josh, I'm like the fuck. So I'm like, oh, man, 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.400 so did my heart drop? Oh? I'm like, shit, it's me. 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:36.759 I'm gonna beat the i'mna be the one. So I've 0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.200 been there, I've been there. I'm in the green room 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:40.920 just sitting there, Joe. You know what I'm saying. You know, 0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.080 like you get seventeen, pick, it's a it's a long, 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:46.120 it's a long. It's a long. Ways like you feel 0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:50.080 like you're there being for like four hours. Yeah. So 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:55.560 I'm sitting in there and the seventeen come up. It's 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.960 the Hawks. They say, they say they gonna pick me. 0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:59.640 I said, man, tell them, tell them. I don't want 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:04.000 to go there because Miammi Miami was like Minay was like, nah, 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.880 he's not going past this, He's not going past this number. 0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.120 We're picking him. You know what I'm saying, Like Miami 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.200 Heat was saying this. It was eighteen. One of those. 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:16.000 There was a nineteen I think nineteenth because I think 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:20.280 New Orleans was eighteen, and they picked JR. Smith Okay 0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:24.719 Sow and I was like, I was like, uh. I 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:28.120 was like, shit, tell no pickney, Tell no pickney because 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.080 the money was saying at that point. I was like, 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.799 telling no pickney. So they was like, man, they gonna 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.799 pick your Josh. So if you see my if you 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.000 see me, see my thing, I'm walking up there and 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:39.759 don't find mad as hell. You know what I'm saying. 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.279 I'm man, I ain't smiling nothing. I'm I'm out there. Man, 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:47.280 I'm like, shake his hand, but will take the picture. 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.800 I smiled the picture. But see you mom a nigga 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:53.960 man nah, but it ain't like this nigga would have 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.280 got drafted to the patients. He would have been jumping 0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:59.319 for fucking joy, right man. See I was. But then 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:02.640 I had to I had to think about the the 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.360 perks of it, because you got to think about it 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.280 when you when you were growing up in the household, 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.480 you gotta go to church three times, like you know 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.759 what I'm saying. Like, you go to church every Sunday, 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.920 you got a Bible study with you with your with 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.680 your with your siblings and your mom and daddy. Then 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.320 then your mama trying to trying to about the whoop 0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:23.279 you to go to choir. She's trying to get you 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.040 to go to choir. Maria six six, I'm like, you 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.560 gotta whoop me, MoMA? Ever be that thing with the 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:36.520 six sixty six nine? Everybody, everybody, everybody but elbows. I 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:40.799 gotta fight like I'm kiching the Holy Ghost. Stop playing 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.080 with the lad I'm not playing with the little man 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.439 they were playing. I would try to. I would try 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.920 to see what it felt like. I ain't never feeling 0:51:50.040 --> 0:52:01.320 I have you. You know what followed off church like, 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:08.680 oh here you go, drummer too. I think I felt 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:14.680 it on the drums sitting I'm just thinking about you 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.239 in church six now with the tambarine is crazy doing that. 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.759 I'm the one sitting down laughing. Yeah, I'm the one laughing. 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.719 That's hilarious. That's good. I always tell people as much 0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.080 of a heathen as I am today, talk about it, 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:31.200 truck I am. I'm a true heath and my past. 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:33.320 They try to teach me well, but I want to 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:35.800 gainst the ground. I still love the Lord were still homeless. 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:40.239 But I'm saying, Church, teach you structure, bro. It does it? 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.520 Really does? I know that plays a lot into how 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:48.239 you are. Yeah, facts, I mean that's funny, that's you 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:49.440 know what I'm saying. You get it cracking in the 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.640 Lanta first year, all start weekend. You know what I'm 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:53.719 saying to your thing? How was that first experience? What 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:55.640 I'm saying, we got to you say you all start 0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:56.840 to you know saying you was in the game. You 0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:58.040 know what I say, you did one of the hardest 0:52:58.080 --> 0:52:59.719 things to do in the dunk contest of everybody looking 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.120 at you. How was that like, especially your first year 0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.919 in the league? Like all lives on use in the stage. Man, 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:10.360 I was in h was in Denver. Shout out to Denver. 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.640 It was a good it was. It was a good 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:15.920 That was a good experience, man. Just overall. I was. 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.840 I was nineteen, just turned nineteen. My birthday was in December, 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:23.359 so boom, you got February right, February was all Star. 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:28.160 So I just turned nineteen, and my my main thing 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.440 was just don't fuck your dunks up, you know what 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:33.640 I'm saying. Like I had a routine, I had four dunks. 0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:37.239 You know what I'm saying, I ain't have nothing after that. 0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:39.560 You know, I would have been doing some some bullshit 0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:41.719 if they asked me to go back up there for 0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.160 a time, So damn I had. I was like, I 0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:50.080 would do these four dunks. Uh the who was the 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.680 strength and condition to coach Pete Rudula Vick and Wily 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:55.600 Blaze at the time, it was the head training. They 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.080 gave me the idea of the jersey which which which 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:02.640 was a trendsetter. Kind of sick trying for for like 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:04.960 years to come with people appearing how much to jersey 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:14.040 people putting jerseys on taking dunks. But I made those dunks, 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:18.640 thank god. Went Foe for Fold, a couple of guys 0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:20.800 that they had some really good dunks, they just couldn't 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.080 fit it. Like Joe Smith had a really that's when 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:24.840 he went behind the back of that was like a 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.239 new dunk for the dunk contest. So he went and 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.080 like so, but he didn't complete it like the first 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:30.680 couple of times. So that kind of that kind of 0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:33.520 gave me. They gave me some room when I went 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.440 so I just I was just a complete dunker with 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:39.440 all my dunks. I flushed them all we won, and 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.759 you know, I had had fun with some of some 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:45.279 of my childhood childhood friends after that. It's hard, so 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.400 I put you on the spot. Obviously you want a contest, Yeah, 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:52.399 who a better dunker between exactly being Vince Carter Vince 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:54.799 Carter for sure, not gonna Vince that easy. I'm gonna 0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.640 go with Vince because Zach is a one. He's a 0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.520 he only do for stuff on the free throw line. 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.480 He like him and James White of the same dunkers. 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:09.120 Damn great comparison James. As far as crazy flight, yes, 0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:14.239 but Vince Carter changed the game, man factual. He had 0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:18.600 the best dunk contest of all time. Ever, it's better 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:24.480 than that. It's better than that first Airs act Lavin. Yeah. 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:28.600 But the reason why it is because they gave it 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.560 to the wrong person. They should have gave it to God. 0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:35.880 That was bullshit. He got cheated, like so like, yeah, 0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.759 like come on, that was it? Come on, bro, you 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.880 want to know what? Yeah, like, they gave it to 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:45.440 the wrong person. It was crazy. I can't believe he 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.560 didn't win. He won that for show. I give him 0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:50.279 that every time. I'm like when he went, man, that 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.399 was crazy. You know what I'm saying, Now, you don't 0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:53.759 say you got that out of the way. I don't know. 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.680 That's still tough for me because exact Lavin shp like 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:57.440 I under stay that one, like, but something shit was 0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.000 like damn Like, I think Vince obviously got the best dunk. 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.200 Never the game dunk is never gonna be touched. But 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.319 I just feel like that, No, I'm talking about that 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:12.720 limpic joint Elite, the biggest nigg in the league outside 0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:18.600 of the ball with the ball that was crazy and 0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:20.640 you back here with it. You're looking down in the 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:27.320 room you think it was John Marantz. One't like that. Paciers. 0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.600 Please get off the highlights. Y'all make it so tough. 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.320 We're gonna top of everybody if you if you searching 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.719 it right now, they are the top of it, the 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:37.920 Pacers on every top of every highlights. I'm sick of it. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.040 Please give us something. We're tired of the ship joint 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:46.160 different ain't nah, but any game dunk was crazy for sure. 0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.080 All right, see what I'm saying. We gotta talk about 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:49.480 y'all link up. You know what I'm saying. Obviously you 0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.719 are vent Lena. You know they get this point guard 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.960 out of white Forest. How was your first time meet 0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:55.680 and see? Like what was he y'all? Early on in 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.640 the league and to see him, know I'm seeing transitioned 0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:00.759 up to being a solid player in the NBA. Man, 0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:06.440 real cheat, real quiet price still price, still frugal to 0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:12.960 this day. But he was real quiet, like just wanted 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:17.080 to learn, you know what I'm saying. Observant Me and 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:19.680 him used to always go in the road and get 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:21.960 something to eat, go to the movies or something like that. 0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:24.280 Chop it up, and I try to give him. I 0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:25.960 try to give him as much knowledge as I could 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.320 I could from my from my perspective of just being 0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.440 in the league, because I couldn't really tell him nothing 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:34.600 from a point guard perspective, but just just life in 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.160 general and everything going on. You know what I'm saying, 0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:40.360 You know, from that perspective, that's that's you know. We 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.440 used to kick it like that. He used to hang 0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:46.760 out with me too. Yeah, Smooth was like the cool 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:49.840 big brother type, like he'll pull you in like, hey, 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.760 theybody gonna talk about all that shit, Come over here 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:54.200 with me. Man, were about to go out have a 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:57.080 good time, But like you gotta be serious though you 0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.040 can't get in trouble. You gotta play attention. You ain't 0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:01.000 gonna play your first year. You just gotta stay on 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:03.840 the bench, stay focused, watch everything, and then your time 0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.600 gonna come. I wasn't trying to hear that ship. I'm 0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:09.720 on the bench, like baby, can't move no more. He 0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:17.000 giving the muscle moves. I'm like, yeah, yeah, sixty four. 0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:19.480 I'm like, maybe he came on no more. He like 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:22.160 he's telling me, like, just calm down me, your time 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:26.240 gonna come. I'm like, man, smooth man, I don't know. Man, 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.360 I'm about to ask for a trade. I'm about ask 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:34.280 for a trade, like man, nobody gonna trade for you. 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.640 Shit Like bro, he was like, nobody gonna trade for you. 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.200 Ain't playing. But he used to give it to me real. 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.040 That's why I used to respect him. Then he like 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.320 like he popcorn my car, my rookie year, talk about it. 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.560 I wasn't. I told him he had a made back, 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:51.760 maybe to color his car. The ship he was living 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:53.600 like that, talk about it. I told him. I was like, 0:58:54.000 --> 0:59:00.240 I'm taking all your tires off. I mean, was to 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.680 put him. He was about to call the police. Damn 0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:07.160 about the car. The police, I said I'll put your 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:10.800 car on bricks. He was like, nigga, shut up. He 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.960 gave me, He gave me, like five get detail. You 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.640 better show up to the club tonight. And I was like, 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.360 oh he pulled up. Yeah, yeah, he pulled over the dog. 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:28.800 He shut some of the said shouted down with this nigga. 0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:31.400 We touched on this another episode we got here with 0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:32.920 since you here. You know what I'm saying, the infamous 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.200 Krispy Kreme don't Nuts. You know what I'm saying. Oh, man, 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.360 I heard You'll almost had COVID before COVID with his 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:40.800 two weeks out don't nuts man. Oh yeah, man, that 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:44.040 man try to get try to get creative on us. 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.880 And see the funny thing about that whole thing, it 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.120 was just a pass down tradition, you know what I'm saying, 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:55.919 because uh see, they used to hey Josh, Josh, because 0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.840 Josh shut used to have the brain to uh a, man, 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.120 I want I want to They wanted the newspaper, well 1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:06.120 Twine wanted the newspaper, and they wanted Krista Creek donnuts. 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:08.240 So He'll tried to come in there with some duncan. 1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:11.440 He came in there. He came in there jump one 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:14.200 time late. He was about to cry dout because he 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.439 was a super cheap person too. They was like, man, 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:20.760 I was like, man, I said, man, Josh fucked him. 1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:26.600 Don't get fine. You know what I'm saying, old want 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:31.960 to fight, Man, I got your back. I ain't bringing 1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:42.560 for real. I ain't bringing for real Standford. He said, Shi, yeah, 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:46.479 we are you doing it? Yeah? So uh he brought 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:49.360 them things in there. Man, We taught so when he came, 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.280 that was his that was his Uh, that was his job. 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:55.640 I can't even tell you what my job was. I 1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:57.480 was so young, man, I was just a guy that 1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:01.840 had they called it nighttime night out. I'm saying I 1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:04.640 was just man, you know yeah, yeah, man, pull up 1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:06.160 and pull up, young feller. You know what I'm saying, 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:13.920 Drop that off and get on out of here. So 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:18.600 we just gave him the little Christma creame detailing man. 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:21.200 He came with some doing us one time things was 1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:25.840 man white man tried Man, I'm like, man, what the 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:29.880 hell with tee? That's what got his damn ship? And 1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:32.880 he playing around and sit the guards was funny, like 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:36.200 fucking funny. You know what I'm saying. That he came 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:38.720 in thirteen pick. You know what I'm saying. You can't 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:40.360 tell him shit. You know what I'm saying. He feels 1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:43.000 like he about to be the next point guard up. 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:46.680 He coming that thing, man, think he ll be big. 1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:49.320 Wasn't doing stuff we told him to do. But we 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:52.120 came in. Boy, we fried him. We didn't worst than teeth. 1:01:52.240 --> 1:02:00.240 That might have this mental too, that might have everyone dropped. Man, 1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:05.760 these nis was torrial. We were wed one time. Thing 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:08.920 you remember y'all maybe were that costume on the plane. 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:18.280 They did do that though he came with It was 1:02:18.280 --> 1:02:26.800 a bumble walking up and down leaving Man Cleveland Bruce 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:35.760 Bruce Lee Bruce Lee body with the young fella was real, 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:43.280 I said, young fellas. Yeah, it was like those like 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.320 teams take that for granted. Man, these I don't know 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:49.400 who made it where vets aren't on these teams and 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:51.880 they making these young guys figure it out. Man, it's 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:54.840 it's it's it's it's gonna be catastrophic to their lives. 1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:59.520 And it's seriously, man, seriously like to their lives because 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:03.640 and to the team's lines. Because you gotta understand all like, look, 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:06.200 you gotta you gotta, you gotta you gotta vet on 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:09.160 the team, maybe twelve thirteen years in the league, maybe seven. 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:11.720 He don't fucked up, man, He don't sucked up a 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:14.200 bag before. You don't got it back, Yeah, he doesn't, 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:16.000 got he don't, he don't. He don't dealt with the 1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:18.840 wrong females. He doesn't did this. And then the third 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:21.160 he might have might have impregnated the wrong females. Now 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.040 you gotta get hit over the head with a child supports. 1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:25.560 So yeah, these are the these are these are these 1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:27.760 are the stories, and these are the things that these 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:31.560 young kids need, these young players need to have man 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:34.000 in order in order for them to get get through 1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:36.240 their careers in their lives, because this is a real 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:39.400 deal thing that they're not gonna see. And everybody is 1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:42.600 at everybody is a professional at the at the level 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:46.240 of what they're saying at whether it's these females, you 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:48.640 know what I'm saying, these these these blue collar guys 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.320 that's trying to trying to sell you dreams about you 1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:54.040 can make you can make uh if you get me 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:56.920 two million, you can make one hundred million in seven years, 1:03:57.280 --> 1:03:59.960 shit like that, scam artists. And then you got you, 1:03:59.880 --> 1:04:02.880 you got these you got these car dealerships. That's that's 1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:05.320 in fluctuating the cars because they know you're paying extra 1:04:05.360 --> 1:04:08.680 twenty over the tab or extra fifty. You're not knowing, 1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:10.800 you know what I'm saying, because you really want a 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:12.680 car and you don't know all these things about the 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:15.520 jury and all this stuff about how this think, how 1:04:15.880 --> 1:04:19.000 that stuff goes. So these are things that these kids 1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:21.120 need to need to know, you know what I'm saying. 1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:24.400 It ain't It ain't that the veteran is on the 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:28.919 bench still of money like a Udonis haslem. He seriously though, 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:32.280 seriously though, he's a guy that's he's a guy that's 1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:36.760 that's helping with emotional distress from teammates. And he's a 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:38.920 therapist probably like he's a he's a coach on the 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:42.560 on the court. He's probably a big brother. And you 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:44.320 know when they when they get out of the locker room, 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:48.640 like these these guys like that's why that that's why 1:04:48.680 --> 1:04:50.640 they look kind of more unified. I know, they got 1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:53.040 a structure and they gotta they got a certain type 1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:55.120 of where they go about it. They got a culture. 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:59.240 But teams need at least one you know what I'm saying, 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:01.600 at least one my life being up my team. I 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:06.400 was the only rookie. Everybody was damn nurse five effects. 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:09.560 So they were showing me the ropes, like he taught 1:05:09.560 --> 1:05:12.520 me how to move. Him and Joe they were similar, 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:17.439 but Joe Johnson, so Joe moved real quiet. Yeah, see 1:05:17.480 --> 1:05:21.040 Joe was funny. Though Joe moved like I ain't sucking 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:24.200 none of y'all. Yeah, Which it was cool though, like 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:26.600 because it was like, but he was fucking with us. 1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:29.040 But it was like, man, I'm just gonna like I'm 1:05:29.040 --> 1:05:32.600 gonna kick with my I'm gonna kick with my homeboys. 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:35.880 Like yeah, like like like he only did he did 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:38.200 it one time and I might no sensitive dude. I 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:40.880 just take it for what it is. Like, I'm like, man, 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:42.360 what we're doing to night? Man, we're going out, We're 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:44.760 gonna go to compound. I'm like, okay, cool, let's go 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:50.480 shit game over with him calling Niggatt answered you know 1:05:50.480 --> 1:05:53.840 what I'm saying, did ye do that? He don't don't ask, 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:59.080 don't asker. So I'm like, I'm like, damn, Nigga, did answer. 1:06:00.520 --> 1:06:12.600 I pull up to the club anyway, I'm like, you 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:20.160 just annoy me. You know you didn't play it off 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:22.439 and shit. So I'm like, man, I ain't calling his ass. 1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:25.360 I just see his ass there he but no, I'm 1:06:25.440 --> 1:06:27.200 like if I said, you go, and he like, yeah, 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:29.280 I just get my own station next to him. And 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:34.760 then I was going there, yeah, he getting free the 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:40.680 benefits going to night, I'm going to But they taught 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:43.680 me how to like move because smooth pep. He bring 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:46.760 his people. Yeah, you have his sisters with him. Yeah, 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:50.560 he'll have a good time and he'll do it right, 1:06:50.720 --> 1:06:53.160 like he'll make everybody feel comfortable. Like if I'm with 1:06:53.240 --> 1:06:57.280 my home boys, man, they're they're good. Come on, everybody 1:06:57.280 --> 1:07:00.000 feel comfortable. I'm like, damn, when I get some money, 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:03.560 I'll make sure everybody comfortable. So I learned that from him. 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:05.720 And then Joe's saying, way he brings all his people, 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:08.880 the whole Arkansas with him. But I'm like, damn, just 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:11.640 do that too, But they all they ain't o D 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:14.160 That's what I respected. But I remember he told me 1:07:14.160 --> 1:07:15.720 not to be in his but he was like, yo, 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:18.240 I got a budget, And I was like, you got 1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:21.480 a budget, and at that time, I ain't. I ain't 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:23.560 had no I had a budget, but my budget was 1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:26.320 very low and I'm looking at him like you said 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:28.200 that was the things that you learned from learn from 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:30.600 my ojez, you know, yeah. And I'm like, I'm not 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:32.439 gonna be on thirty for thirty you know what I'm saying. 1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:35.320 That's real and that's just you know, that's just reality 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:37.640 of it. I'm not feeling I'm like, man, I'll be damn. 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:39.720 You know what I'm saying. If if they blessed me 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:42.240 with all this and I do that, I'm not doing that, 1:07:42.320 --> 1:07:44.800 you know what I mean. You told me you had 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:46.680 a budget. I'm like, damn, you got a budget. It 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:49.560 was I was like, I can go out because I 1:07:49.560 --> 1:07:52.160 got a budget. This is in my budget. I'm like, shit, 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:53.760 I gotta get a budget so I can go out. 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:57.160 You know. I mean, I'm taking because the league always 1:07:57.200 --> 1:08:02.880 painted you to be just like O C. Yeah, facts like, 1:08:03.120 --> 1:08:07.000 always confrontational, so you would see basically how they was 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:09.600 paying you. Man, Josh ain't gonna have shit in the 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:11.240 next couple of years. You're gonna be out of the 1:08:11.320 --> 1:08:15.840 league that whole time, but playing you're sticking to it. 1:08:15.880 --> 1:08:18.240 That's why I respect you, bro, because I know you 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:21.080 heard all that shit going on, all that smut they 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:23.599 was putting on your name, yet you were still pushing 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:26.360 through that shit. It's just I mean, I got into 1:08:26.360 --> 1:08:29.360 it with some coaches that had a lot of power. Yeah, 1:08:29.439 --> 1:08:31.800 you know what I'm saying. So when you do that 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:34.880 and you have a couple of disagreements, you know what 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:39.160 I'm saying, and you're but you're you're alpha male, they 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:42.840 might get fearful and be like, oh, you're uncoachable, you 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:44.760 know what I'm saying. But you're a great locker room guy. 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:47.240 You're a great teammate, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:50.120 but you have these a couple of different spats with 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:52.840 coaches like like I say, Mike Woodson, you know what 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:55.519 I'm saying, Like the first coach you know, Indian of 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:59.920 the coach right now and with the reason why we 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:02.080 used to get into us because I had a father 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:04.439 growing up, you know what I'm saying. So I'm eighteen 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:06.840 in the league and I got veterans that's helping me 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:10.400 maneuver through my my life and watching and I'm I'm 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:12.080 I'm watching how they moving this. Then the third and 1:09:12.120 --> 1:09:13.559 then I got a coach that's trying to talk to 1:09:13.560 --> 1:09:16.200 me like he's my dad. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:09:16.240 --> 1:09:19.360 So I'm like, man, coach me, don't talk to me 1:09:19.439 --> 1:09:20.960 like you know what I'm saying. So I see how 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:23.519 he's talking to everybody else. He just going in on me. 1:09:24.120 --> 1:09:26.559 So I'm like, brut like start talking to me like that. 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:29.160 But you know what I'm saying. Like, now I got like, brahma, 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:30.680 grown man, start talking to me like that. And I 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:33.320 had a daughter. I start then when I had a daughter, 1:09:33.360 --> 1:09:36.040 I started becoming feeling like more of a man, you 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:38.439 know what I'm saying. And and now I'm like, bro, 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:41.240 it's a certain way you gotta approach the situation. Because 1:09:41.280 --> 1:09:46.040 I started having success and I started seeing the importance 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:49.519 of the team, then what I was what I started 1:09:49.560 --> 1:09:52.120 becoming as far as like for the team, you know 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:55.080 what I'm saying, Like, I'm like man, like I just 1:09:55.200 --> 1:09:57.160 was like man, used to have a little back and 1:09:57.200 --> 1:09:58.800 forth because I'm like, bro, you can't talk to me 1:09:58.840 --> 1:10:00.519 like that. And no, mo brou like talking to me 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:03.439 like that because I'm I'm gonna go hard for you regardless, Like, 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:06.759 but don't use me in front of in front of everybody. 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:08.960 Is like you're gonna be with my whooping boy, you 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:10.880 know what I'm saying, like I'm not gonna do I'm 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:13.559 not gonna I'm not. I wasn't. I wasn't. It wasn't 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:16.000 about being sensitive. It was just like I'm not getting 1:10:16.000 --> 1:10:17.280 you're not gonna talk to me like that, you know 1:10:17.280 --> 1:10:18.840 what I'm saying, Like, just tell me what you want 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:21.200 me to do. You know what I'm saying. You you 1:10:21.200 --> 1:10:23.479 you cuss at me, but tell me what you want 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:25.560 me to do, Like, don't be cussing at me for 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:27.519 some mind fuck type shit. You know what I'm saying, 1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:30.160 Like you're trying to fuck with my confidence and stuff 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:32.720 like that, like don't don't do don't do that. So 1:10:32.760 --> 1:10:36.759 that that was the only kind of I think those 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:40.000 kind of incidents because I never had any instance with 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:42.280 my teammates as far as like be about to fight 1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:44.439 him or anything at all the time I got there, 1:10:44.720 --> 1:10:47.040 they had like a love hate relationship like Wood he 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:49.640 loved this nigga, but he hated this nigga, and he 1:10:49.800 --> 1:10:52.519 like like I was like, why they why they do that? 1:10:52.880 --> 1:10:57.679 Like you know what, I'm like six years and I'm like, man, 1:10:57.720 --> 1:10:59.840 I don't give me the fuck. You know what I'm saying. 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:03.200 I was just like, man, but you know, when you're young, 1:11:04.439 --> 1:11:07.080 you're younger, you don't you don't think about things. That's 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:08.680 like that, you know what I'm saying, because you know 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:12.800 what I'm saying, Like you're selfish. You know what I'm saying, 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.960 because you're you're you're selfish because you're young, yourselfish, You 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:17.920 got your own you got you got your money. So 1:11:18.000 --> 1:11:20.800 now you're becoming a man, and you know what I'm saying, 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:23.640 You're starting to get get the things. You know what 1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:25.400 I'm saying, You're starting to deal with deal with certain 1:11:25.560 --> 1:11:28.479 certain females. You know what I'm saying, right, and you 1:11:28.520 --> 1:11:30.280 know you're spelling yourself a little bit. So it's like 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:33.080 you're becoming your own man, you know what I'm saying. 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:37.719 So it's like it's like however you want to handle 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:39.040 it is how you gonna handle it, you know what 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:41.840 I'm saying. So you know, some some of those some 1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:43.680 of those things, I wish I had a little bit 1:11:43.680 --> 1:11:46.920 more better temper about it, but I couldn't control that 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:48.920 ship at that at that age. You know what I'm saying, 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:51.320 Like I couldn't do it. And what's real is like 1:11:52.040 --> 1:11:53.960 I do media and stuff and it's so crazy, like 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:55.760 being in like NBA practices and stuff, and like, you 1:11:55.800 --> 1:11:57.200 know what I'm saying, growing up, you hear about all 1:11:57.280 --> 1:11:59.680 altercations of people missed stuff, and then you're going to 1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:04.040 practice you'd be like, damn an asshole. Like it's like, 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:05.760 you know what I'm saying, Like you can't talk to 1:12:05.800 --> 1:12:07.760 growing as men like this, and you'd be seeing it like, 1:12:07.800 --> 1:12:09.800 oh no, they had issues. Nah, he just don't know 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:12.559 how to relax. And then you start seeing the business 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:15.080 to basketball, and I start seeing it when I start, 1:12:15.120 --> 1:12:16.599 you know what I'm saying, getting the practices and being 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:18.840 around teams and stuff, and then you're getting to see 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:22.040 how players act going into free agency. So for you 1:12:22.120 --> 1:12:23.759 know what I'm saying, you're going through the term on Atlanta. 1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:26.280 It's all right, it's bad season time, I ain't playing 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:28.640 with y'all. Who got this bad? How did you approach that? 1:12:28.680 --> 1:12:30.120 You know what I'm saying. End up going to Detroit? 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:32.320 Like was there another team who could have had you 1:12:32.360 --> 1:12:34.280 by chance? Or dude was like, who got the bag 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:36.960 from me? That's what I'm well, I'm not even seeing 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:39.280 a lot to you. It was like like he said, 1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:43.519 don't disrecredit his bad he got a couple backs. You 1:12:43.520 --> 1:12:45.479 gotta talk about the first back. I'm talking about first 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:51.360 back from Atlanta. Now I'm talking the first time leaving 1:12:51.360 --> 1:13:01.800 the team though you shot the man. Stupid something that 1:13:02.720 --> 1:13:07.880 I got had that ship. Talk about coming on your 1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:15.479 having wars, I just gonna look like, damn Jesus shit, 1:13:15.520 --> 1:13:19.000 I'm like, I get Someboddy boy. I'm gonna turn this 1:13:19.000 --> 1:13:23.240 motherfucker up. That was just backing the cat bro what 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:25.000 it was not big then, No, I had my first 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:26.640 car was a hell Cat. They already had him. I 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:29.559 pulled up and I got on here. The whole team 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:33.240 had him. So was that did you had him? So 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:35.760 you always had a budget all the way through the 1:13:35.760 --> 1:13:39.800 real budget, Joe. I was never trying to compete. I'm saying, 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:44.760 they just had bad. We got that ship and I 1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:48.679 was like, man, that's the one franchise and they gave 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:52.360 me one twenty. I said, I can't nobody to touch him. 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:56.679 That was like that's what you getting them type of numbers? 1:13:56.680 --> 1:13:59.000 That was. That was that was bag talk, you know 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:02.680 what I'm saying. So damn it was from Atlanta, So 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:08.120 you know he had that Atlanta like the Cote. It 1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:11.400 it was like that like Atlanta, and I wanted to 1:14:11.439 --> 1:14:14.760 like you know he y'all know he humble right now, 1:14:15.040 --> 1:14:17.280 but he's smooth. So he would go to the game 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:21.160 and you see ta like smooth. What I'm like, damn 1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:27.479 he know tip you there, you'd be another person. So 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:31.719 but like everybody knew smooth everybody, but they're already embracing 1:14:31.760 --> 1:14:35.000 you before the league. Nah, not really because they didn't 1:14:35.040 --> 1:14:36.479 know about me, you know what I'm saying, Like I 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:40.360 was kind of like you know, I was, I was young. 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:42.559 People aren't going to like if you was a high 1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:45.120 school fan, you was going to those games. But but 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:48.880 if if if you wasn't then or you wasn't into 1:14:48.960 --> 1:14:52.040 like basketball, you know, like as far as like nationally 1:14:52.120 --> 1:14:54.280 ranked players and stuff like that for high school. Nah, 1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:57.000 like not like like like you said, like, it wasn't 1:14:57.000 --> 1:14:59.200 no I g So yeah, it wasn't. How they can 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:02.439 resonate with the the kids now, Like how the rappers 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:05.439 were seeing Zion Williams and they said, what two chains 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:08.719 went to that girls game out there in California? Yea 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:13.559 ju Julia? So uh so they just saw you like shit, 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:18.280 he wanted us. Yeah, but you know then ilay years 1:15:18.640 --> 1:15:21.840 so when when we when we started playing up in 1:15:21.880 --> 1:15:24.320 the playoffs, we made the playoffs, that's when I started 1:15:24.320 --> 1:15:30.040 getting recognition and and man, Danny Ferry Dog, it was 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:33.280 like nine years bro, and it was it Uh comes 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:36.360 to when you said about like hearing all the chattering stuff, 1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:38.360 and I heard it, and I was I was getting 1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:40.640 mentally fatigued on that shit. I ain't saying a lot 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:42.320 to you. And I was like, man, I gotta I 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:44.559 want to fresh start. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:46.160 I want to fresh start. I want to try to 1:15:46.160 --> 1:15:51.040 shake this whatever, whatever kind of narrative they got on me, 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:53.400 however they feel about me. I want to I want 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.360 to break that, you know what I'm saying. So we 1:15:56.400 --> 1:15:58.599 had to talk. He was like, man, Danny was like, man, 1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:00.639 he just please give me one more. You can just wait, 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:03.719 because he's like he didn't tell me he was fucking 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:07.080 getting budded. I would have just said I was gonna wait. 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:10.760 That's what I'm saying. Also, he was like, man, just 1:16:10.840 --> 1:16:13.320 can you just sitting wait? Please? Can just please just 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:15.640 give me one more? Like just keep just I said, no, 1:16:15.960 --> 1:16:18.880 I'm done, Damn, Like I'm done, I'm ready. I like, 1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:21.280 So he tried to trade me and uh, he tried 1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:23.320 to trade me for somebody in Milwaukee, but it didn't 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:27.840 it didn't, it didn't go through. And then after that, 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:32.479 I just I went to I went to Detroit. I 1:16:32.520 --> 1:16:35.960 signed with Detroit after that. But I should have stayed though, 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:38.519 because I didn't know if Bud was that good, Like 1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:40.479 if you would have told me, like, look, brou I'm 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:44.280 getting this good ass coach. But like you know, I 1:16:44.360 --> 1:16:46.000 still I still see him to this day. Though I 1:16:46.040 --> 1:16:51.040 still see Danny Fair to this day. Uh. His son 1:16:51.120 --> 1:16:54.360 plays at pace uh paste down down there in Atlanta, 1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:56.519 and uh, it's a it's a it's a kid that's 1:16:56.520 --> 1:16:59.960 going to Michigan. Actually a little a young kid called 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:04.920 Chris Anderson. He's like five eleven, yeah, go five eleven. 1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:08.479 But man Dad trained him like he like like Dre 1:17:08.600 --> 1:17:11.400 was like he got gang like the real like he 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:14.640 was him. Yeah, like the jake he was, He's the 1:17:14.640 --> 1:17:18.360 real jack shutters were damn damn like like the man 1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:20.200 get the bay, get up. Like as far as like 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:23.439 training him, how you just trained him since he was seven. Yeah, 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.600 like the man, the kid really dedicated his life to basketball. 1:17:26.680 --> 1:17:30.439 But I'll be watching him like they they got real rivals. 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:32.920 So I watched him playing there. That's how I'll be 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:36.360 bumping into Danny Ferry every like I bumping him. But 1:17:36.880 --> 1:17:40.679 I think Kyle Corver's kids go there. Shout to Kyle Korver. 1:17:40.880 --> 1:17:42.679 Shout out to Kyle Korver. He be hating on Kyle 1:17:42.720 --> 1:17:45.679 Korver and uh yeah, he be hating on Kyle Cover 1:17:45.760 --> 1:17:49.400 respect a star yeah he oh he was awesome. Yeah, 1:17:49.400 --> 1:17:52.960 oh yeah, you forgot you should have been All Star 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:58.439 that one year. Man, It's like they want to snub you, 1:17:59.160 --> 1:18:02.640 but then they don't. They want to snub you, and 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:05.439 then they don't want you to react how you want 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:10.600 to react, like, don't say shit about they was Broyeah. 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:15.559 So when I'm like, I'm like, man, I'm in my feelings. Yeah, 1:18:15.680 --> 1:18:17.720 so like I'm really in my feelings. Dog like they 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:20.439 it's like they set up people's careers how they want 1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:24.400 to set them up. I'm I believe that, you know 1:18:24.439 --> 1:18:28.000 what I'm saying. But Mike Baby shout out to him 1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:30.479 once again. Man, he got my head back on right 1:18:30.520 --> 1:18:33.000 when I was kind of out. It was I still 1:18:33.000 --> 1:18:35.479 had a hit list after after the ship came out, 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:37.479 Like I'm gonna tell these teams to fuck up. You 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:39.760 know what I'm saying, Like any team that we're playing 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:43.639 against him a dog. So he was like, man, fuck 1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:49.519 that all star shit. Man. So I'm like what you mean? Like, 1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:52.920 I'm like, he's like, man, fuck that shit, bro. Shit 1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:55.840 if they pay you like all star shit, who gives 1:18:55.840 --> 1:18:59.760 a fuck talking about it? So I was like, shit, 1:19:01.080 --> 1:19:03.280 from right, I'm like you right, because I'm like, damn, 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:04.920 you didn't get one. He's like, no, no, I didn't 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:08.280 give me one because I thought he was at least one, Yeah, 1:19:08.360 --> 1:19:11.040 at least one in secondment when he had Chris Webber 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:15.280 and Chris didn't those guys and they had a wiggyout. Yeah, 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:19.040 but he never gets it. Was making that over him. Yeah, 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:22.519 but yeah. So I'm like, damn, I'm like he's like, yeah, man, 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:25.960 this shit. I remember this year, like all right, yesterday, 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:29.080 I remember it. They said smooth, don't shoot no threes. 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.760 You remember y'all made it. They made a bet and 1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:34.600 he would I swear he had take one step in 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:38.120 every time. I was like, I was like, he crazy. 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:40.479 You know what's crazy? Bro? I always wondered why you 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:43.120 shot him shots like that? It was that one year, 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:49.360 but he was crazy cry talking about the three. I'm like, 1:19:49.520 --> 1:19:51.360 smooth and make the All Star team. And that's when 1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:53.839 Is that the year when Joe had got hurt. Yep, 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:56.920 Joe got hurt and IL got hurt and we still 1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:59.519 was like third and I thought he was They didn't 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:02.200 make any give it to me. Was nobody made it out, 1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:05.479 nobody made it for my team, and he was he 1:20:05.600 --> 1:20:08.160 was stepping in. I was like, damn, he gonna make 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:09.639 it this year. I was like, I'm going with him 1:20:09.680 --> 1:20:11.960 where he go. I'm going, we're gonna be takeing. I 1:20:12.000 --> 1:20:17.840 was taking that was my own Tashwhite too though, man. 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:24.000 And then and then somebody got hurt and I still 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:26.680 didn't make it. They put Jared Wallace in. I was like, 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:31.080 they don't like. I don't like. And then they doubled 1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:33.840 down the next year, and but it was it was 1:20:35.360 --> 1:20:36.920 when I when it made me kind of like, I'm 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:39.479 like it'll be all right. When I seen Al Horford 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:43.439 face like he was sick and he made it, was like, damn, 1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:46.840 all this shit fucked up. He's like, this shit fucked up. Bro, 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:48.960 you shouldn't. I'm like, I'm like, it's all good, bro. 1:20:49.120 --> 1:20:50.760 As long as one of us make it. And I 1:20:50.920 --> 1:20:53.479 was truly not a hater. You know what I'm saying. 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:55.880 I'm like, I'm just gonna take this time to God's 1:20:55.920 --> 1:20:57.920 probably telling me to rest my body. Take take this 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:01.280 time and spence sp you know, going back with yeah, 1:21:01.520 --> 1:21:03.400 you know what I'm saying, my wife and my kids. 1:21:03.439 --> 1:21:05.880 Because he was a motherfucking villain in the NBA. That's 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:10.000 why I felt like, man, this nigga going through the league. 1:21:10.920 --> 1:21:13.280 You know what I'm doing because it was like that 1:21:13.479 --> 1:21:16.280 era of that though, I really got to think about, 1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:19.280 like that's the that's the era came in and then 1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:21.400 I was like kind of trying to soften it up 1:21:21.439 --> 1:21:23.960 a little bit and I was still rough around edge like, 1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:27.559 but it was just like Rondo though, like Ben Rondo 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:29.920 can't tell you why he don't like a point guard 1:21:29.960 --> 1:21:32.519 in the NBA he hates like he was. It was 1:21:32.560 --> 1:21:35.240 just like that, like fuck this nigga. I'm like, damn, 1:21:35.560 --> 1:21:39.080 why oh yeah, you cool with T. I said, Nigga, 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:44.800 this niggas my T. I want me to do that. 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:50.639 I was about to tell this story that's not perfect. 1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:53.800 Everybody though, this is a perfect story because we're playing 1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:58.400 the Celtics and I'm having a cool game, and Kurt 1:21:58.479 --> 1:22:02.439 had just came to the team, was like, hey, throw 1:22:02.479 --> 1:22:04.760 it back sometimes, like throw it back, like when you're 1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:07.280 driving down the lane, they staying with you, throw it back. 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:10.080 I'm like, yeah, I ain't throw it back like two times. 1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:12.760 So nigga was like, I ain't. Motherfucker. They staying what 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:16.160 you're talking about, So I'm kind of ignoring me. Was like, hey, 1:22:16.320 --> 1:22:18.920 so being Smooth had this kind of relationship on the 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:23.880 court like it'll d put put Curt in man, this 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:26.960 nigket tripping. So I'm like, I get mad as Hill 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:29.120 you know what's talking about. I get some mad. I'm 1:22:29.160 --> 1:22:35.599 like crying looking at he like they looking at me like, man, 1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:38.840 get there like that. So I get a still and 1:22:38.880 --> 1:22:43.840 I dunk on real. Yeah, the only nigga behind me 1:22:43.920 --> 1:22:51.320 is Smooth. You smack your back like yelling at each other. 1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:54.400 I'm like that for real, Like I'm gonna get all 1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:57.240 you like just like my team now. And uh I 1:22:57.360 --> 1:23:03.519 love I thank God, my my my. My parents are 1:23:03.560 --> 1:23:06.040 cool with me, like because I get on the assy, 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:08.760 I get on their kids ass dog when they when 1:23:08.800 --> 1:23:14.800 they mess up, even my fourth grade, Yeah, what are 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:18.360 you doing so like they look at at me and 1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:20.599 then but then when they when they do something good, 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:23.280 I'm praising. I'm the first one you got a little 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:26.080 praising them. You know what I'm saying because I want 1:23:26.080 --> 1:23:27.719 to see them do good. You know what I'm saying, 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:30.120 Like shit, I don't you know what I mean. But 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:33.280 people don't understand that type of relationship that you gotta have. 1:23:33.320 --> 1:23:36.000 It's like a little brother Like how you seen Jordan 1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:40.120 Pool when they came in the tunnel, he threw the 1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:44.320 Him and Steph Curry hugged each other. But it's like 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:48.080 it's so so sensitive right now, Like I don't know 1:23:48.120 --> 1:23:50.240 what's going on with I don't know what why the 1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:53.439 world is so sensitive. I don't know if because so 1:23:53.479 --> 1:23:57.599 many people have to have a voice to be opinionated. Yeah, 1:23:57.640 --> 1:23:59.479 you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying, 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:03.880 Like is bro And I think I say whatever I want, 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:10.280 But I know, but I understand, Like I don't believe 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:13.639 everything should be water dawn, but I think we start, 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:16.799 we do need to start paying attention more to people's 1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:20.479 feelings when it comes to certain ships, Like yeah, motherfucker's 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:22.920 it soft like when it comes to the NBA. They 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:25.559 shouldn't water it down. And that's what I say, Like, 1:24:26.240 --> 1:24:29.920 motherfucker's in my house like my stepson, Nigga's he can take. 1:24:30.439 --> 1:24:32.920 He can take it from anybody if you use his 1:24:33.000 --> 1:24:36.400 coaches saying since your motherfucking ass damn he heard that 1:24:36.479 --> 1:24:40.200 at home. Yeah, I talk. Get them mother fucking dishes done, 1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:43.960 my nigg get the trash down. It's like so with you. 1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:46.439 He feels like nig he can build that relationship as 1:24:46.479 --> 1:24:49.040 long as you love them. Yeah, that's the same thing 1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:52.840 with my kids, Like I don't I want I'm raising 1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:54.360 them like kind of tough love and I don't want 1:24:54.400 --> 1:24:57.720 them raise him. It's entitled individuals. Yeah, you know that, 1:24:57.840 --> 1:24:59.880 they know that privilege, but I want to. I'm gonna 1:25:00.160 --> 1:25:01.840 on the ass though, you know what I'm saying because 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:04.880 and when it comes to their sports, I'm gonna be 1:25:04.920 --> 1:25:07.080 their biggest critic first because I want them to. I 1:25:07.120 --> 1:25:09.479 want them to. I don't want nobody to hurt their feelings. 1:25:09.520 --> 1:25:10.640 You know what I'm saying. I want them to be 1:25:10.680 --> 1:25:12.800 ready for it. This is what you got going on. 1:25:12.880 --> 1:25:15.080 Somebody's gonna tell you if they really care about you, 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:17.200 They're gonna tell you what's going on? You know what 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:21.760 I'm saying. What's crying so much? Though, when it comes 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:25.519 to these these these NBA players are like, you know, 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:27.680 like your feelings want to get hurt and stuff like that. 1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:31.040 Go see a therapist. Yeah, you're making millions of dollars, 1:25:31.080 --> 1:25:33.040 Go pay for you to see a therapist so you 1:25:33.040 --> 1:25:35.040 can talk about that shit in there. But when you 1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:37.800 come to this court, dog, I need a man. I 1:25:37.880 --> 1:25:40.840 need a grown ass man, bro or I need a 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:43.560 grown ass man that's gonna understand why I'm talking to 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:46.960 you this way when you when you're sucking up, I 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:48.439 don't need you to be like, man, why are you 1:25:48.479 --> 1:25:51.160 talking to me like that? And you're making forty million 1:25:51.200 --> 1:25:53.479 dollars a year? Talk about it? You know what I'm saying. 1:25:53.640 --> 1:25:55.960 You get what I'm saying. It's a different time though, 1:25:56.200 --> 1:25:57.920 as long as you as long as you not, I 1:25:58.040 --> 1:26:00.080 might think you understand it is And I see it 1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:03.240 and I see it though like I see it, I 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:09.120 see like shout out the to the head coach with Cleveland, 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:14.679 you know what I'm saying, Like he's jb Iss, he's 1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:16.280 one of the one of the great ones in his 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:18.920 in this game and I'm kind of mentoring him a 1:26:18.960 --> 1:26:20.840 little bit. And I've been going to Cleveland games. I've 1:26:20.840 --> 1:26:23.360 been going up to the Cleveland for like the past 1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:27.640 couple of years. Okay, and coach move you know, you know, 1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:30.519 you know, manifesting it, you know, talk about it. But 1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:33.720 at the end of the day, I'm seeing how he 1:26:33.840 --> 1:26:37.360 how he's talking to his his players, and how he 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:39.559 gets them to relate, and how he gets the best 1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:41.680 out of him because i mean, you know, when I 1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:44.680 was in Houston, my favorite coach in the NBA was 1:26:44.800 --> 1:26:48.840 Kevin mckill. Oh you know, yeah, for sure, hands down, 1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:51.160 he wasn't That's when I made it to the Western 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:54.600 Conference with him. West Conference Finals. Oh we got we 1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:57.160 gotta talk about that. Yeah, one of the craziest basketball 1:26:57.200 --> 1:26:59.439 series of all time. Yeah, for sure, we can get 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:03.720 to it. But shout the coach. He was always assistant 1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:07.720 under Kevin mckill. So he was like he was a 1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:10.960 JB's more excess and those. But Kevin mckill was like 1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:14.439 super relatable to his to his players, he wasn't really 1:27:14.439 --> 1:27:16.479 excell and those. He was a players coach, okay, but 1:27:16.520 --> 1:27:19.720 so he would get the best out of you and 1:27:19.720 --> 1:27:22.280 and the JB. I guess took some of that lot 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:25.599 knowledge with him and then mixed his his his excess 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:28.080 and those with it. And he's a coach year today. 1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:31.040 But I'm watching him how he relation talks to this team. 1:27:31.080 --> 1:27:33.960 I'm like, okay, but it's it's kind of like I'm like, damn, 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:37.559 it's it's crazy. Like you said, it's it's it's it's different, 1:27:37.680 --> 1:27:40.519 you know what I'm saying. But it's different because you 1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:42.880 don't have a veteran on the team to help help 1:27:42.960 --> 1:27:45.200 their young kid understand why the kid why the coach 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:47.800 is talking to him like that, you know what I'm saying. 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:52.840 Like my experience is working in the league. Man, you 1:27:52.880 --> 1:27:54.640 get on some of these guys, you might not have 1:27:54.680 --> 1:27:58.280 a job in the morning, being real, Like, you get 1:27:58.280 --> 1:28:00.560 on some of them guys who the star players you like, 1:28:00.720 --> 1:28:05.200 bad side the ownership, they're going with the player every 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:08.240 team place. So I understand why it's kind of sensitive 1:28:08.280 --> 1:28:11.320 and damn damn, that's crazy. I mean, like you said, 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:14.000 coaching matters and not even more or less X and os, 1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:15.760 But how you manage me because like in this league 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:17.800 you've grown, ask me and most of these players on 1:28:17.840 --> 1:28:20.320 the bench make way more money than the coach. It's 1:28:20.360 --> 1:28:21.960 like you need to get the best out of these 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:24.720 players by relating and talking not talking down. And you 1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:27.000 see it like the transition to the NBA with coaches now, 1:28:27.040 --> 1:28:28.960 like some of them older coaches, like the George Cross 1:28:29.000 --> 1:28:31.519 some situations that shit not fly on no more like 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:33.960 it didn't even George carl though. I mean, but I 1:28:34.240 --> 1:28:42.479 mean just like the same time tis I'm saying, like, 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:49.200 but he don't. But it's like it's like, like you said, 1:28:49.200 --> 1:28:53.240 you gotta relate though, yeah, you can't be like you 1:28:53.280 --> 1:28:56.360 can't be socially awkward with this with this new generation. Dog, 1:28:56.439 --> 1:28:59.280 you gotta be able to pop pop your ship with them. Dog, 1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:03.080 you got to broy they they're looking at it. He 1:29:03.120 --> 1:29:05.280 would have loved it. No, you know why you would 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:07.280 have loved him. He wasn't gonna take your ass out. 1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:11.400 And you know he's playing forty. You're playing for As 1:29:11.439 --> 1:29:13.679 a player, when you in the game, you really don't 1:29:13.680 --> 1:29:15.800 want to come out, like you don't want to come 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:18.120 out to that next morning, Like damn, I played forty. 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:20.720 But as a player, when you in the game, like 1:29:21.200 --> 1:29:25.799 to get all my stats. Team, but I'm talking about 1:29:25.840 --> 1:29:28.200 I'm just talking about relatable though, as far as being 1:29:28.240 --> 1:29:31.080 relatable to these kids that they you can tell he getting. 1:29:31.240 --> 1:29:34.439 He coaching a whole bunch of sensitive players though, because 1:29:34.840 --> 1:29:37.040 it's like they want to they go on the wooden Street. 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:40.639 Then they'll lose games. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:45.120 that shit matter. But look, he's not relatable to Relationships 1:29:45.160 --> 1:29:48.439 are key. I always talk about that ship like your 1:29:48.479 --> 1:29:51.080 locker room. Say everything about how y'all gonna play on 1:29:51.080 --> 1:29:54.679 the court don't matter, bro. So if your coach ain't 1:29:54.720 --> 1:29:57.800 really rocking, and it goes from the coach, that's why 1:29:57.840 --> 1:30:01.479 I'll be telling my pop to go to me. Because 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:05.080 he got Tim Duncan. He was on Tim duncan ass 1:30:05.160 --> 1:30:07.599 so much. Everybody else had a fall in line, bro, 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:10.720 And it's showing you how much how much more cold 1:30:10.760 --> 1:30:13.040 he is because it's like a lot of players did 1:30:13.080 --> 1:30:17.640 not like Tony Parker no at all. Yes, everybody he 1:30:17.720 --> 1:30:24.200 was smashing, smashing teammates hate wild that the championships up 1:30:24.280 --> 1:30:29.080 bows in the club, wild boy, it wasn't no budget 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:36.720 when TPS no budget, man, that's crazy. Everybody comes out 1:30:36.720 --> 1:30:39.439 there like, yeah Tony parks like damn, but was hoping 1:30:40.280 --> 1:30:44.800 I'm winning championships, winning for it was nothing. That's crazy. Really, 1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:47.600 you ain't really hearing nobody to talk bad on the 1:30:47.680 --> 1:30:54.599 championship winning team. Like teammates like that're like you said it, bro, 1:30:55.080 --> 1:30:59.800 it's up on this right right. And I feel bad 1:30:59.840 --> 1:31:01.559 for Jacks. He's been saying it for a long time. 1:31:02.120 --> 1:31:04.880 I've been trying to say to Park, but Mary went 1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:08.040 on the coast side. That's tough. Like you say, how 1:31:08.040 --> 1:31:09.960 you treat your rookies mattering a long time because you 1:31:09.960 --> 1:31:12.439 know what I'm saying, the Paragon ship, You're gonna get better. Yeah, 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:15.080 but you gotta give it to him though, Like that's 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:18.960 why I say antin walk Over, I'll Harrington, you know 1:31:19.000 --> 1:31:20.920 what I'm saying, because all Harrington was there with me, 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:23.519 but he was focusing on He was like you said 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:28.280 he was going to his his his free agent year. 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:32.240 Who's going to his freging year where he was trying 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:34.360 to get the bag, you know what I'm saying, and 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:38.200 a legend he was. He was like, fuck you, I'm 1:31:38.240 --> 1:31:40.720 trying to get this bad because you was coming to play. Yeah, 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:46.400 He's like, you'll figure it out. That's rock. With that, 1:31:47.280 --> 1:31:50.439 mccaulla left and then I was there alone by myself 1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:52.400 like the rest of my life. When they when they 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.960 traded him back to Boston, it was having that good 1:31:55.000 --> 1:32:01.000 little right he did. He wasn't there, and when they 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:04.559 trade him back up to Boston, I forgot about halfway 1:32:04.600 --> 1:32:07.840 through my my rookie year. Damn, now it'd be like 1:32:07.880 --> 1:32:09.800 that stuff. I was just with my I was with 1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:13.280 like Royal Ivy and dart Tey Smith. Yea, damn I 1:32:13.360 --> 1:32:16.320 have in Texas legend. Yeah, talk about it. We was 1:32:16.840 --> 1:32:19.080 you know what I'm saying. We was more relatable. We 1:32:19.080 --> 1:32:21.120 was more like kind of more relatable with each other. 1:32:21.880 --> 1:32:25.840 Josh was like from Stanford, you know. So yeah he 1:32:26.240 --> 1:32:28.120 had he had that bread, you know what I'm saying. 1:32:28.160 --> 1:32:30.479 So he was just he was on his own type, 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:32.360 you know what I mean. But we was all kind 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:34.880 of were still all cool and stuff like that. Like 1:32:34.920 --> 1:32:36.439 I still talked to Josh to this day. You know 1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:38.559 what I'm saying, doing good in real estate up there. 1:32:39.760 --> 1:32:43.120 I wanted to ask this bro. So we already talked 1:32:43.120 --> 1:32:47.040 about the budget. I just want to know, like you 1:32:47.080 --> 1:32:49.519 know y'all was doing y'all thing, what was the best 1:32:49.520 --> 1:32:53.920 city to go out too? Like go out in like 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:56.760 on the road, like man, like y'all were going we 1:32:56.840 --> 1:33:01.000 win tonight, it's going out. It was a story. It 1:33:01.080 --> 1:33:04.519 was a story. Man. We all went out. The baby 1:33:04.520 --> 1:33:07.320 made us all go out of Miami. Dog, you see 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:12.400 the Toronto with about Toronto. Toronto number one for sure, 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:17.240 but like as far as like Toronto and Miami. So 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:21.599 you got Miami. You know, Miami's like, don't see there, 1:33:21.680 --> 1:33:24.559 don't sleep. But it was like a man he got, 1:33:24.800 --> 1:33:27.200 he got the whole team drunk that day. Dog, I 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:33.000 think somebody got. I think Solomon Jones was you tell 1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:37.160 that was New York? That was New York. But he plane, Yeah, 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:41.320 I cussed everybody out. I was mad. I cussed everybody 1:33:41.680 --> 1:33:45.439 all around. Man, he might be dead hang over now 1:33:45.439 --> 1:33:47.160 they tell me this. So the next year we go 1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:51.120 out in Miami. Is my rookie year. Yeah, and he like, hey, 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:54.760 don't go out with baby. I'm like, He's like, you 1:33:54.760 --> 1:33:56.800 don't go out with baby in Miami. He was like, 1:33:56.880 --> 1:33:58.960 niggas missed the plane all type of stuff. I'm like, 1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:05.120 but I went anywhere. Everybody he because he he when 1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:08.240 I when I got my first check, he said, yeah, 1:34:08.320 --> 1:34:11.160 black congratulations. He's like shit, I ain't got to spend 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:14.000 my money no more. He's like, I'm with you. He say, shit, 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:15.720 you know no, you know how to go. He's like, 1:34:16.120 --> 1:34:17.880 you got the bag now, you know the best. You know, 1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:19.479 you gotta take care of the veteran. You gotta take 1:34:19.479 --> 1:34:22.679 care of me. I said, man, come home. Bro. Every time, 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:25.559 every time I see Bro, I need to bottle of bill. 1:34:25.600 --> 1:34:31.320 But there, he said that ship. I seen nobody's bout 1:34:31.360 --> 1:34:33.360 that thing. He had, grabbed the bottle, put it right 1:34:33.360 --> 1:34:38.120 in his back pocket. Dog. Yeah, yeah, like a couple 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:41.240 of a couple of cranberry juice and then another couple 1:34:41.280 --> 1:34:44.960 of bill, so he'll be That's exactly how he looked 1:34:45.080 --> 1:34:47.320 the whole night. He had everybody on the two cup 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:52.759 one night, but he everybody was faded. Miami was Miami 1:34:52.840 --> 1:34:55.080 was definitely one of those one of those places, though, 1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:57.280 I gotta man, I gotta talk about it, man, one 1:34:57.280 --> 1:35:01.840 of the most I kind of okay, get your off. 1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:04.040 My man took me out of Houston the first time. 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:06.960 I ain't never been nowhere. You know, all I've ever 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:11.600 been was Indianapolis. Wake for us. He takes me my 1:35:11.640 --> 1:35:13.920 first time. He's like, are you coming with me? You 1:35:14.280 --> 1:35:15.640 come with me. I'm like, where are we going? He 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:17.720 was like, just shut up, you're coming with me. We 1:35:17.840 --> 1:35:20.880 go out of Houston. I'm like, hey, I'm moving to 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:33.960 Houston in college. That how wish I wish my bidding 1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:36.760 was just gave me everything. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1:35:37.160 --> 1:35:38.840 put it out on the table for me, Like let 1:35:38.840 --> 1:35:41.120 me see anything. You know what I'm saying. But they 1:35:41.400 --> 1:35:44.160 you know, some of these some of these players beat 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:46.240 some of these some of these kids be fumbling the 1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:50.040 bag though, like they'll they'll put one in somebody on 1:35:50.520 --> 1:35:54.360 me it ain't the right one, and then they want 1:35:54.360 --> 1:35:58.000 to blame. You say, somebody want to blame man. I 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:03.559 ain't tell him to do all that trying to comment. Yeah, 1:36:03.600 --> 1:36:06.880 I dry. He took me out, Man, and then he 1:36:07.000 --> 1:36:09.599 got back to the Lennen and bought me. I shot, 1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:12.599 you gotta have some of your wrists when we go out, 1:36:13.000 --> 1:36:16.479 I said, shiit was this a ti okay, Josh. He 1:36:17.680 --> 1:36:23.559 had a key of that college. But to the top, 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:32.479 I was taking his weekend. I'm hearing about man. Man 1:36:32.680 --> 1:36:36.000 was political went on tour with the weekend for Showman. 1:36:36.840 --> 1:36:41.280 Rod went on roll I had no money, Man. He 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:45.640 was still a real digger for taking my nigger out 1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:48.759 to man, he bought me my second thing from Louis 1:36:48.880 --> 1:36:50.680 Marvin bought me my first. He bought myself. I went 1:36:50.760 --> 1:36:53.000 with and he like, men, you ain't got a wallet. 1:36:53.080 --> 1:36:55.880 I'm like, man, you can't be out. He pulled my 1:36:56.080 --> 1:37:02.320 man out. Had Yeah, I had the high school I 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:05.880 definitely did. They showed me a little man. They got 1:37:05.920 --> 1:37:09.920 me right man. Yeah, I think I got him a 1:37:09.960 --> 1:37:12.439 couple pair of suits. Ah, he did. That's why I like. 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:14.400 I like when they first call, got to give him 1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:16.439 some suits. Man got shown. I had to lead dress 1:37:16.439 --> 1:37:21.559 called then too. Then y'all. Yeah, but I just yeah, yeah, 1:37:21.560 --> 1:37:25.120 we had that. We definitely had that. Damn So man, 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:28.280 you know what I'm saying, career continues you in Houston? 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:30.759 First of all, how was it like living in Houston 1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:33.400 and playing in Houston? Like I imagine what I'm saying, 1:37:33.400 --> 1:37:35.120 maybe a little later, your career a little bit more, 1:37:35.120 --> 1:37:36.920 you know what I'm saying, as mature, but still you 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:38.639 in that city and that vibe. You know what I'm saying, 1:37:38.720 --> 1:37:41.360 James Hard going crazy, Like, how was that season for y'all? 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:44.240 Because that's one of the most important NBA like series 1:37:44.280 --> 1:37:46.960 that ever happened, because that changed the franchise after that. Yeah, 1:37:47.320 --> 1:37:51.720 it was amazing, man. I mean, you know Atlanta, you 1:37:51.720 --> 1:37:53.559 know from there, born and raised. I love it. I 1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:55.559 love it to death. But the fan base was just 1:37:55.600 --> 1:37:58.640 so wishy washy was it was kind of hard to 1:37:58.720 --> 1:38:01.599 kind of get up to play for games sometimes at 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:04.080 home because you know, you knew what type of crowd 1:38:04.120 --> 1:38:07.200 that you was gonna have to face. Lebron could be 1:38:07.240 --> 1:38:10.040 in the Knicks, you know what I'm saying. Or Chicago, 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:13.000 You're like, like it was so many people from from 1:38:13.000 --> 1:38:15.280 New York down there that live in Atlanta, like so 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:17.360 it's like it would be like a split, you know 1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:20.839 what I'm saying. You got the Boston, the Boston, the Lakers. 1:38:21.360 --> 1:38:24.120 So it's like, you know, we was doing so when 1:38:24.120 --> 1:38:26.719 I went to Houston, it was just nothing but Houston fans, 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:29.439 damn like and they was like they die hard fans, 1:38:29.479 --> 1:38:32.040 you know what I'm saying. Like, so like you know 1:38:32.120 --> 1:38:35.679 we had that, you know, they had DWIGHTE and James 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:38.519 Like it was like them they're like almost like sold 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:41.600 out every day. And then when I came, it was 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:43.880 like turned up even more, like they embraced me with 1:38:43.960 --> 1:38:47.880 so with so much open arms. When I got away 1:38:48.000 --> 1:38:51.600 from when I got away from Detroit with stand you 1:38:51.680 --> 1:38:56.080 know what I'm saying, st Yeah, stand the man. I 1:38:56.280 --> 1:39:00.360 laugh every time. Everything though they gave him like they 1:39:00.400 --> 1:39:03.280 gave him complete everything when they were up there. So 1:39:03.320 --> 1:39:07.240 they gave him like the GM president. Uh, every coach, 1:39:07.439 --> 1:39:10.280 he was all three and one son. When he came, 1:39:10.360 --> 1:39:13.040 he fired everybody. He was blowing up everything. You know, 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:14.760 I knew I was about to. I knew I was 1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:18.040 going too because I didn't. I wasn't his guy. He didn't. 1:39:18.080 --> 1:39:20.439 He didn't recruit me up there. So after they fired 1:39:20.680 --> 1:39:25.160 Joe Dumars, I knew I was gone. So that didn't work. No, 1:39:25.360 --> 1:39:29.879 But Houston was amazing though. They let you be yourself. 1:39:32.280 --> 1:39:35.519 James had that. James had the organization turned. He had 1:39:35.560 --> 1:39:39.600 the organization and the fans turned like Jason Terry like 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:45.040 that was a real nigga tine. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:49.720 the money units. We had a Corey Brewer. We used 1:39:49.760 --> 1:39:51.720 to always gamble like but they used to gamble for 1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:56.519 the big money. Terrence Jones. But they introduced me to 1:39:56.560 --> 1:40:00.200 that FIFA. I started playing FIFA because James was real 1:40:00.439 --> 1:40:03.080 heavy and at FIFA Clint Cappella was there. We had 1:40:03.200 --> 1:40:06.040 that's when Clint was super young. Couldn't gain away. He 1:40:06.160 --> 1:40:09.280 was just bouncing, dunking everything that had a whip man. 1:40:09.360 --> 1:40:13.599 We had a whip had a nice ass team. How 1:40:13.720 --> 1:40:15.160 was that serious? Though? Like you know what I'm saying, 1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:18.880 back against the wild up and downs during that series, 1:40:19.000 --> 1:40:23.799 not for real. I think we was like down obviously 1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:27.040 it was one one. It was like three one. He 1:40:27.160 --> 1:40:32.320 was down three one. Yeah, and uh Man arguing. It 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:34.479 was like a lot of arguing in the gap there, 1:40:34.640 --> 1:40:38.040 like going back and forth. Uh Me and Dwhite got 1:40:38.040 --> 1:40:41.439 into it one time. Ship the white, I mean changing 1:40:41.520 --> 1:40:46.320 the white fucking uh Man. We was just trying to 1:40:46.360 --> 1:40:51.599 figure it out. But Jason Terry Man the glue that's hard, 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:54.519 the glue that kept that ship going. He was super 1:40:54.560 --> 1:40:57.960 positive every day. Man. Man, we was because you, like 1:40:58.000 --> 1:41:02.080 I said, we couldn't. You know, Kevin mckill was a 1:41:02.200 --> 1:41:04.960 great you know what I'm saying, players coaching as far 1:41:05.000 --> 1:41:08.040 as X and nos, trying to like make adjustments, he wasn't. 1:41:08.479 --> 1:41:10.320 He wasn't as good at doing that, you know what 1:41:10.360 --> 1:41:12.800 I'm saying. So we would be on the planes after 1:41:12.800 --> 1:41:14.559 those games like hey man, we need to do this, 1:41:15.600 --> 1:41:17.719 like breaking this ship down, Like why are we playing 1:41:17.720 --> 1:41:20.360 cards with each other? It'll be like me Corey Brewer, 1:41:22.880 --> 1:41:25.640 Trevor Reaser be He'll be like right there watching he 1:41:26.000 --> 1:41:31.600 wasn't playing, James, and then like the white is just 1:41:31.720 --> 1:41:35.040 be sitting like he'll be sitting in the like sitting 1:41:35.120 --> 1:41:37.360 right there, just like acting like he can't listening, but 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:41.200 he listening or not. No, no matter of fact, no, James, 1:41:41.280 --> 1:41:43.880 I mean, because he'll be in his feeling so he was. 1:41:43.960 --> 1:41:46.160 He'll always like he'll be in this. He'll be like 1:41:46.320 --> 1:41:49.000 in the back with like the stewardess and ship, but 1:41:49.400 --> 1:41:51.120 he'll be acting like his back hurt, like he needs 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:53.800 to lay down. So he'll like be back there laying 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:59.200 down being his grown man feeling. And we'll we're gonna 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.880 get him going. Look this, look John, what you do? 1:42:02.360 --> 1:42:04.880 You know what I'm saying? He putting the play together, 1:42:05.160 --> 1:42:07.360 you know what I'm saying, So we like we putting 1:42:07.360 --> 1:42:10.720 that shit together. And then he said, they're gonna let 1:42:10.800 --> 1:42:12.080 us win this. They're gonna let us win this game 1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:13.559 because they want to try to close out at home, 1:42:13.920 --> 1:42:16.240 so they just gonna dal the ass out for this 1:42:16.360 --> 1:42:18.760 game five, and then and then and we got to 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:21.519 figure it out game six. So we dig the ass 1:42:21.560 --> 1:42:24.479 out game five. It's like a game whatever. And then 1:42:24.520 --> 1:42:27.120 they already talking about they going to the They're going 1:42:27.160 --> 1:42:30.400 to the Western Conference Finals. It's basically over with. So 1:42:30.439 --> 1:42:33.479 they're trying to use that ship as click bait for us, 1:42:33.520 --> 1:42:35.639 like it's gonna get us geared up. And shit, I'm like, man, 1:42:37.760 --> 1:42:39.720 I'm just sitting there. I'm just sitting there stairs there 1:42:39.800 --> 1:42:42.960 practice right, We're at the Lakers facility. So they're trying 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:44.840 to have like a Komba y'a moment, like what were 1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:46.519 we talking about? I said, man, let's just fucking just 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:49.040 go out here and shoot. Man. Fuck, let's go like, 1:42:49.120 --> 1:42:51.000 ain't nothing to talk about it. We're gonna get our 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:54.000 ass beat. We're gonna fucking win and go to Game 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:58.200 seven at home. So they came out dragging that shit, 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:05.559 gave out dragging. They came out dragging this dog. So 1:43:05.560 --> 1:43:10.120 so when they was, they came out dragging this and 1:43:10.120 --> 1:43:14.120 and like you can see kind of like James kind 1:43:14.160 --> 1:43:18.880 of been like, shit, I'm cool. I was just gonna 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:21.040 stay here, you know what I'm say. From here? From 1:43:21.080 --> 1:43:23.680 there so he looking like shit, he cool. You know 1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:27.320 what I'm saying, Like, fuck this ship. So Kevin mckills 1:43:27.680 --> 1:43:31.160 took him out, sous people in we go on the run, 1:43:31.479 --> 1:43:33.880 you know what I'm saying, like crazy being Brewer, just 1:43:33.920 --> 1:43:40.400 going to food in the fourth coming back and see 1:43:40.439 --> 1:43:44.320 what people don't see is like the gym, Derrick Moyer 1:43:44.400 --> 1:43:47.080 and the owner like at the time, they like, put 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:52.720 Jack's back in. Put James back in. Kevin's like, I 1:43:53.600 --> 1:43:55.960 got you one second, one second, you know what I'm saying, 1:43:57.040 --> 1:44:01.920 put back here? They hot. So you see that. I 1:44:01.960 --> 1:44:04.759 think that's what took of effect the member to member. 1:44:04.800 --> 1:44:07.719 He only twenty games until the next year season. Yeah, 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:09.679 but I got rid of him. But it's like, man, 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:12.000 man took out to the Western Conference finals, y'all do 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:16.080 that one? Yeah, that shit playing. Yeah they getting they 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:19.240 got maga put him back in. But like man, like, 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:21.320 what are you suxpected to do with when your team 1:44:21.400 --> 1:44:24.360 going y'all on the road. Yeah that we go to 1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:27.439 Game seven, James closed it out for us. Yeah, he 1:44:27.560 --> 1:44:30.720 closed it out. That's what the normal fan doesn't understand, though, 1:44:30.760 --> 1:44:34.439 what you said, like a stance, we're not knowing that 1:44:34.560 --> 1:44:39.760 Kevin mckill is getting you know, push, trying to use him. 1:44:39.800 --> 1:44:41.640 They're supposed to be telling him at my name just 1:44:41.680 --> 1:44:46.720 coach after the game, right man nay and that day 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.720 and then they was like and the reason why I 1:44:49.720 --> 1:44:51.639 didn't know because I'm so locked in in the game. 1:44:51.720 --> 1:44:54.559 You know, you got people in the stands. Yea, they like, man, 1:44:54.680 --> 1:44:58.479 the man neighborhood. They're going crazy. I'm like, what what 1:44:58.520 --> 1:45:01.519 was that feeling like though, Like when you got that wrong, because, 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:04.680 like like you said, from high school, people telling you 1:45:04.720 --> 1:45:07.840 not to shoot jump yeah, yeah, it was. It was 1:45:07.840 --> 1:45:09.920 one of the best feelings in the world because you know, 1:45:10.000 --> 1:45:12.840 you gotta you gotta coaches like I don't care about 1:45:12.840 --> 1:45:15.919 your shooting jump shot. I just shoot more in practice, 1:45:16.400 --> 1:45:18.120 like you know, that's what he was saying, like, Man, 1:45:18.120 --> 1:45:19.800 I want you to shoot threes. I want you, but 1:45:19.920 --> 1:45:22.920 you know, but you know, shoot make make you two 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:26.240 hundred after practice. Yeah, so I started to make three hundred, 1:45:26.320 --> 1:45:28.000 you know what I'm saying. Like, So I'm watching how 1:45:28.560 --> 1:45:31.519 James hard and working. He working extra time over over time. 1:45:31.600 --> 1:45:34.639 So I'm I'm just you know, I'm like, Okay, I'm 1:45:34.680 --> 1:45:36.800 see he's younger than me, but I'm getting I'm getting 1:45:36.800 --> 1:45:39.720 I'm like, Okay, young nigger working hard. Yeah, so I'm like, shit, 1:45:40.000 --> 1:45:41.720 I gotta go pick my shit up, you know what 1:45:41.760 --> 1:45:44.240 I'm saying. So now I'm like and then and then 1:45:44.640 --> 1:45:47.360 we was all everybody was staying after like Trevor Rees, 1:45:48.080 --> 1:45:51.559 Jason Terry old older than all of us staying. So 1:45:51.600 --> 1:45:54.000 it was like a camaraderie that we had built amongst 1:45:54.000 --> 1:45:57.280 each other by and we bought into what we had 1:45:57.320 --> 1:45:59.240 going on, you know what I'm saying, Like we we 1:45:59.600 --> 1:46:02.280 just all bought in, like we just we just had 1:46:03.080 --> 1:46:07.479 a young like I think like Patrick Beverley was was hurt, 1:46:09.360 --> 1:46:11.800 but I don't think he would have stopped Steph Curry Man. 1:46:11.800 --> 1:46:17.200 We but we had like we had Pablo, Oh, Pablo 1:46:17.760 --> 1:46:19.960 shout out to Pablo and uh and we had a 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:25.720 h Jason the jet Man, Jason Tirey. Those were point 1:46:25.760 --> 1:46:28.840 guards for the Western Coppers. Finally, Yea was in trouble. Yeah, 1:46:30.000 --> 1:46:34.599 step it was hard. Yeah, it was hard to win. 1:46:34.680 --> 1:46:36.920 It was hard to win out there. That's hard, man. 1:46:36.960 --> 1:46:38.880 But before we got here, do a couple of rapper 1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:41.120 fire questions. Know what I'm saying, It's called something or nothing. 1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:43.760 Basically if you're something, You fucking with it? If you're nothing, Yeah, 1:46:46.040 --> 1:46:48.880 Lebron James the best basketball player of all time? You're something? 1:46:48.960 --> 1:46:53.519 Or you nothing? I'm nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. I'm not 1:46:53.960 --> 1:47:02.280 Michael Jordan. Yeah you nothing? Yeah? If he what's up? You? 1:47:02.080 --> 1:47:05.160 You mind me with something? You're nothing? You know? I 1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:07.360 want to keep this going. I like this like this. 1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:10.120 Let's say I'm gonna say Jordan. You're gonna say Jordan. 1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:14.599 I'm rolling with Jordan too. But I think if Lebron 1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:16.840 get another ring and he got that scoring title, we 1:47:16.840 --> 1:47:19.240 gotta talk about it. He's not getting another ring, you 1:47:19.280 --> 1:47:23.400 don't think so? He too infactuated with playing with his son. Damn. 1:47:24.120 --> 1:47:29.439 So that's hard though. Which is gonna be historic? It's 1:47:29.439 --> 1:47:33.240 gonna be historic, you know what I'm saying. But depending 1:47:33.240 --> 1:47:35.880 on what team is just son go to it? How good? 1:47:36.439 --> 1:47:37.880 How good are they're gonna be? It ain't gonna be 1:47:37.880 --> 1:47:39.760 lost as Lakers. You're right, this name has just been 1:47:39.760 --> 1:47:43.920 playing basketball y'all for so long. You've been killing you 1:47:44.000 --> 1:47:46.120 got a kind of hard saying Jordan is better than 1:47:46.120 --> 1:47:47.920 what you got to think about? What if? What if 1:47:48.000 --> 1:47:51.479 Jordan's then just stop playing to play baseball? Whose dude, 1:47:51.520 --> 1:47:54.840 does the man just said, Hey, man, I'm just let 1:47:54.880 --> 1:47:56.600 me go, let me go ahead, and let me go 1:47:56.640 --> 1:47:59.200 ahead and just fulfill my fantasy or playing the basket 1:47:59.200 --> 1:48:02.200 being a baseball playing doing what me and my dad 1:48:02.280 --> 1:48:06.920 talked about. But in his prime, my only pushback pushback 1:48:07.040 --> 1:48:12.479 to you smooth talk to me on nasty. Look which 1:48:13.640 --> 1:48:16.519 this nigga brin, Bro, he didn't change the name of 1:48:16.520 --> 1:48:21.000 the game though twenty years Bro, he damned his stats. 1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:23.559 Damn there got better. This nigga is a better shooter 1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:28.639 now earlier. But I'm just saying, yeah, but he changed. 1:48:29.000 --> 1:48:32.800 He also changed the game. Bro. Do you think do 1:48:32.840 --> 1:48:35.840 you think long term contracts is short term contracts is 1:48:35.840 --> 1:48:38.840 good for the game short term? So you think of man, 1:48:38.920 --> 1:48:41.400 you think you think a player wouldn't won a five 1:48:41.479 --> 1:48:44.160 year deal over three or two year deal? No? Not 1:48:44.200 --> 1:48:47.120 actually smart that muf How we how we structuring that 1:48:47.160 --> 1:48:50.519 bitch though? Is it? Do I got a two year 1:48:50.680 --> 1:48:58.400 fifty like Brinn? No? No, So what I'm saying though, 1:48:58.680 --> 1:49:04.040 maybe like, okay, give me something. I'm with you, give 1:49:04.040 --> 1:49:10.599 me something years hundred million, Okay, what you can say 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:18.759 five years one twenty right? Yeah, like two years sixty million, 1:49:19.920 --> 1:49:22.840 to me. No, I want the fire to me, I 1:49:22.880 --> 1:49:26.280 mean the fire if you do the two years, that 1:49:26.400 --> 1:49:28.639 mean if you if you're a max player, your max 1:49:28.760 --> 1:49:32.080 gonna be higher. Yeah, so that's I want. I want 1:49:32.120 --> 1:49:36.360 the one twenty. That's because you want the stability you want. Yeah. Yeah, 1:49:36.400 --> 1:49:38.760 but if you're a max player, like oh yeah, like 1:49:38.840 --> 1:49:40.720 if we bron yeah, get it out of the way. 1:49:41.479 --> 1:49:46.519 Another one two years three. Now you know he the 1:49:46.600 --> 1:49:50.160 one who changed the contracts of the NBA. Yeah right, 1:49:51.040 --> 1:49:53.000 I just I don't know. But like I said, if 1:49:53.000 --> 1:49:55.080 we're doing some bron ship, now, if you get me, 1:49:55.200 --> 1:50:02.479 god damn it, two years twenty four. Paul stretched me 1:50:02.520 --> 1:50:10.479 out for the for the five year whatever. But I 1:50:10.520 --> 1:50:12.519 don't know, bro, that shit just in you in this. 1:50:14.120 --> 1:50:16.439 I'm glad we're talking about this because I don't really 1:50:16.479 --> 1:50:19.760 like players that bet on theirselfs too much, you know 1:50:19.760 --> 1:50:24.679 what I'm saying, Because I want, yeah, secure the bag bro. Yeah. 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:31.920 And it's like, I mean, okay, granted a player wants 1:50:32.040 --> 1:50:35.559 to two three year deals, right, but like a I mean, 1:50:35.600 --> 1:50:40.360 even though it is a business, teams would probably want 1:50:40.400 --> 1:50:42.960 to see like more loyalty out of a player than like, 1:50:44.200 --> 1:50:45.840 let me get this two years. But let me get 1:50:45.840 --> 1:50:48.880 a player option my second year. That's tough, you know 1:50:48.920 --> 1:50:54.200 what I mean. But you signed that five year one twenty. 1:50:54.600 --> 1:50:57.120 Like Jeremy Grant in this situation right now, he just 1:50:57.120 --> 1:51:01.040 got offered five years like one fourteen. You gotta take that. 1:51:01.120 --> 1:51:04.080 I mean, four years one fourteen. He turned it down though, 1:51:04.120 --> 1:51:06.439 but he got tripping. Now he got the he got 1:51:06.439 --> 1:51:08.439 the option. They can offer him and forget. They can 1:51:08.520 --> 1:51:11.120 offer him five years up to two sixty. He's not 1:51:11.240 --> 1:51:13.320 getting that. I'm not saying you, but think about it. 1:51:13.360 --> 1:51:15.160 You can go in the free agency to get five 1:51:15.240 --> 1:51:21.080 years one seventy. Yeah, but listen though, right, okay, fourteen, Okay, 1:51:21.120 --> 1:51:23.599 that's a good question. Right, that's that's good. That's good. 1:51:23.920 --> 1:51:26.920 But I want to know what the percentages are when 1:51:27.080 --> 1:51:31.280 people turn their ship down and get spy and the 1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:34.400 ship gets spooky for him, or they turn it down 1:51:34.439 --> 1:51:36.479 and it works in their favor. I don't want to 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:39.519 know what the percentages are. Like with with John Collins, 1:51:39.520 --> 1:51:42.280 we turned that ninety down, but they went to the 1:51:42.280 --> 1:51:45.080 Eastern Conference finals, that's what That's how he was able 1:51:45.120 --> 1:51:49.599 to get that one twenty. So oh yeah, but Portland. 1:51:49.680 --> 1:51:52.120 Portland is not a Portland. I need. I'm gonna take 1:51:52.120 --> 1:51:54.040 that one fourteen because I'm looking like, man, we're not 1:51:54.080 --> 1:51:57.720 gonna We're not like no championship type of team. We 1:51:57.800 --> 1:52:00.559 gotta we gotta. I gotta show something in the playoffs 1:52:00.560 --> 1:52:02.680 before for me to get this two sixty. But they 1:52:02.720 --> 1:52:06.240 already offer you one fourteen, but they don't get players. 1:52:07.160 --> 1:52:10.120 That's true. They already kind of like, damn, we need 1:52:10.200 --> 1:52:12.000 him to stay. That's true. Now you kind of got 1:52:12.080 --> 1:52:15.479 him like I'm a gambling nigga, five one thirteen, and 1:52:15.560 --> 1:52:18.400 what Jeffrey just said, I could get to sixty, you're 1:52:18.400 --> 1:52:22.760 gonna try to sixty. I don't even want to six. 1:52:23.080 --> 1:52:26.880 Never if I get the five one seventy five eight, 1:52:28.520 --> 1:52:31.719 you said, ain't gonna lie the ninety to one twenty 1:52:32.640 --> 1:52:40.559 the ninety. But for every told you they off me. 1:52:40.920 --> 1:52:48.080 I'm not sweating, going to be sweat but will under pressure. 1:52:48.439 --> 1:52:51.759 They lets you know, John Collins works will under pressure 1:52:51.800 --> 1:52:55.000 because think about it, but he bullishit. He's been bullishitt 1:52:55.320 --> 1:52:57.839 They say we're gonna trade you away. That nigga been cooking. 1:52:58.640 --> 1:53:08.200 Understand me, that been cooking three fishing nig but the 1:53:09.120 --> 1:53:12.800 he worked well for every John Collins, you get another's No, 1:53:12.840 --> 1:53:16.439 will you get Isaiah Thomas? See what I'm saying, how 1:53:16.479 --> 1:53:19.320 sick is nerveless? No? Will how si t bro? I 1:53:20.520 --> 1:53:23.559 know he's sick. Bro. What I turned down though the 1:53:23.560 --> 1:53:25.800 mas like sixty though? No, No, it was like a 1:53:25.840 --> 1:53:28.320 small band. It was a small band. It was a 1:53:28.439 --> 1:53:31.840 Hunter guaranteed he would have signed that too. Was him 1:53:31.880 --> 1:53:35.080 getting hurt? Yeah? I thought it was Lisa Hunter. I 1:53:35.280 --> 1:53:37.400 don't even know if he got offered the extension, but 1:53:39.320 --> 1:53:41.080 because he was, it was like it was like a 1:53:41.160 --> 1:53:44.120 small window. It wasn't like your boy though. No, ner 1:53:45.680 --> 1:53:52.040 seventy stroulder, You got Victor Shoulder trying to stroulder vic 1:53:52.439 --> 1:53:58.439 vic stroller from Indian So what do you do? He 1:53:58.520 --> 1:54:02.559 turned down that that good three year that's stability you 1:54:02.600 --> 1:54:05.280 wanted to get in Miami. I feel you look at 1:54:05.320 --> 1:54:10.120 it in Miami looked differently. You can't got hurt. It's 1:54:10.160 --> 1:54:15.880 hard bout that'd be people be fooling, you know, Like, man, listen, 1:54:16.160 --> 1:54:20.280 I can live in Indiana, man, ship man that bottle 1:54:20.360 --> 1:54:22.600 right there, one hundred dollars in the club. You know 1:54:22.600 --> 1:54:25.840 what I'm saying, Come on, man, keep come on, A 1:54:25.960 --> 1:54:28.439 thousand dollars six hund dollars in Atlanta. Man, this is 1:54:28.439 --> 1:54:31.559 one hundred dollars. Man, I can't beat that shit. Man. 1:54:33.040 --> 1:54:36.800 You my really hanging out often? Am I really hanging 1:54:36.800 --> 1:54:39.440 out for I'm gonna be in the house you see 1:54:39.440 --> 1:54:42.000 where I live? Hold on saying how much that is 1:54:42.040 --> 1:54:45.600 in Atlanta? Man? About seven eight hundred dollars? Here that 1:54:46.160 --> 1:54:49.960 with hook and see what I'm man? You the man 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:53.560 out here. Man, You're the man. You are the man. 1:54:54.040 --> 1:54:57.520 You see what I'm saying? So like you got to 1:54:57.520 --> 1:55:00.040 think about that type of ship, all that bushit. I 1:55:00.040 --> 1:55:03.600 want no state taxes. It's no state tax, property taxes 1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:07.760 where they're gonna smack you all. You go down to 1:55:07.800 --> 1:55:14.600 the South Beach. You paid a hundred thousands. Yeah, oh man, yeah, 1:55:15.640 --> 1:55:17.920 smoth man. We appreciate you sliding on us. Man, so 1:55:18.000 --> 1:55:20.800 many more sorts. You gotta have you back again. Appreciate 1:55:20.840 --> 1:55:24.760 your rocking wet of course, of course, Jeff, did you 1:55:24.800 --> 1:55:27.000 ever go out when bio meth was in the linta? Yes, 1:55:27.120 --> 1:55:32.640 I did see that. That's when it was so funny, dog, 1:55:33.040 --> 1:55:35.960 because you said, like when when they beat me for 1:55:36.040 --> 1:55:39.120 the threes and step in, So it was like all right, well, 1:55:39.120 --> 1:55:40.520 I ain't gonna go here, but I'm gonna go here. 1:55:40.560 --> 1:55:44.400 You know what. I had went to Man City a 1:55:44.440 --> 1:55:48.800 couple of times, and uh, this ship was funny, dog. 1:55:49.480 --> 1:55:51.800 So I'm in it. Like the first time I'm going there. Dog, 1:55:51.960 --> 1:55:54.640 it's like a deer in headlights. So like the next 1:55:54.720 --> 1:55:59.760 time we're in pressing like Twine were going back, we're 1:55:59.760 --> 1:56:01.560 going back. Like I'm just like, you know what I'm saying. 1:56:01.720 --> 1:56:03.400 He like, he took me there a couple more times 1:56:03.440 --> 1:56:07.240 and then everybody was out of practice. He's like, coach, 1:56:07.320 --> 1:56:09.520 like me, how let you real quick? Well, Mike, Mike, 1:56:09.600 --> 1:56:13.840 what's just locked room? When he was like a man, uh, 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:16.280 how you doing? I'm good. I'm good. He's like, man, 1:56:16.400 --> 1:56:18.040 you've been he've been all right. I said, I'm good. 1:56:18.040 --> 1:56:22.000 He's like, hey, man, stapp stap him, stab them titty bars. Man. 1:56:22.560 --> 1:56:25.080 So I'm like, what you're talking about? You know what 1:56:25.120 --> 1:56:28.080 I'm saying? Stupid? You know what You're like, I don't 1:56:28.080 --> 1:56:30.200 know what you're talking about. Like, I ain't. I ain't 1:56:30.240 --> 1:56:32.360 been in no strip club. I think I went one time, 1:56:32.400 --> 1:56:35.840 but I ain't. He like, listen, man, the chief police 1:56:35.840 --> 1:56:38.360 said he's seen you. Man. He said, ain't gonna shut down. 1:56:38.760 --> 1:56:40.600 So I'm like, this is not like damn okay, I'm 1:56:40.800 --> 1:56:43.240 it shit getting real for me. Like so I'm like, 1:56:44.640 --> 1:56:49.560 I'm like, uh, dropped my head. I said all right, man, 1:56:50.640 --> 1:56:52.560 I said all right, I ain't all right. I ain't 1:56:52.560 --> 1:56:54.400 gonna go no more. I ain't go no more. So 1:56:54.480 --> 1:56:58.000 I was like, shit, So this when I started meeting 1:56:58.320 --> 1:57:00.680 with a meeting shamane, do you know what I'm saying, 1:57:00.720 --> 1:57:04.640 start being cold jamindu print stuff, and uh he was 1:57:04.720 --> 1:57:07.040 taking me out, you know what I'm saying. So shit, 1:57:07.120 --> 1:57:09.520 I was like, okay. That was another little suss of like, Okay, 1:57:09.520 --> 1:57:13.360 I can get in these clubs. Right. So I remember 1:57:13.400 --> 1:57:15.040 were in the back, were in the back of Visions 1:57:15.120 --> 1:57:20.600 one day and uh, I'm about to get out because 1:57:20.600 --> 1:57:22.440 I'm thirsty. You know, I'm young, I'm thirsty. I'm ready 1:57:22.440 --> 1:57:24.560 to see what going on in there because I had 1:57:24.640 --> 1:57:27.160 just got kicked out the month before. You know what 1:57:27.160 --> 1:57:30.920 I'm saying, like I had, I had slid up, slid 1:57:31.200 --> 1:57:34.200 up the security guy like a couple of hundred you 1:57:34.240 --> 1:57:42.320 know what I'm saying, motherfucker, So big love alex Ago. 1:57:42.760 --> 1:57:46.360 So once I get that mother motherfucking two seconds, it's 1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:48.240 dude like come in, like, come on me, like let me. 1:57:48.400 --> 1:57:49.840 I was like, oh, I'm thinking that they're gonna take 1:57:49.840 --> 1:57:51.720 me to the to the section. You know what, the section. 1:57:52.120 --> 1:57:54.360 He's like, come come on. So like me and Josh 1:57:54.480 --> 1:57:59.160 Chills were walking me, Josh d. Smith were walking. Man, man, 1:57:59.280 --> 1:58:00.800 open the door. Man. It took me to the bed 1:58:00.920 --> 1:58:09.640 like outside, like I was like, yeah, hold up. It 1:58:09.760 --> 1:58:11.600 was like a picture out like nigga, don't let this 1:58:11.680 --> 1:58:14.280 little nigga in. You know what I'm saying. They put 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:19.760 the head out. Niggas' coming head up. You know what 1:58:19.800 --> 1:58:23.480 I'm saying. You know what I'm so. I was like 1:58:24.880 --> 1:58:28.160 it was funny as hell. So uh, I like boom, damn, 1:58:28.240 --> 1:58:30.120 I'm getting this bitch. I can't. It was like one 1:58:30.240 --> 1:58:33.760 twelve across the street. So I'm like, shit, I go, 1:58:33.920 --> 1:58:35.920 I get I like I'm with you made the priest, 1:58:35.960 --> 1:58:38.440 So sho, I'm about to get out the car. He like, 1:58:38.760 --> 1:58:40.200 hold on, hold on, hold on your fell hold on. 1:58:40.760 --> 1:58:43.000 So like, man, why what's up? Why you know what 1:58:43.040 --> 1:58:46.560 I'm saying? He like, shit, let the let the go 1:58:46.640 --> 1:58:49.680 in here. Look to the right. But it's like sixty people. 1:58:50.400 --> 1:58:52.640 So I'm like, what the fuck you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:58:52.680 --> 1:58:55.600 what the hell going now? I'm just like thirty niggas, 1:58:55.720 --> 1:58:59.480 thirty thirty girls, like no exaggeration, you know what I'm saying, 1:58:59.480 --> 1:59:03.960 all these big ass pieces medallion pieces and shit, bingmf 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:07.080 then but it's like all kind of crazy pieces. Yeah, 1:59:07.560 --> 1:59:10.040 So I'm like, the fuck. So we're going there, I 1:59:10.160 --> 1:59:12.880 going there. We're going there like nearly and so once 1:59:12.920 --> 1:59:15.280 they they get in, they they let them in, no 1:59:15.480 --> 1:59:18.480 pat down, none of that shit. So like the vibes normally, 1:59:18.600 --> 1:59:22.440 like I'm guessing like JD probably wasn't tripping at that moment, 1:59:22.480 --> 1:59:25.800 but he was like, man, ain't nobody y'all checking out 1:59:25.840 --> 1:59:27.600 of my niggas? You know what I'm feeling, like, we 1:59:27.680 --> 1:59:30.120 hate no showing our did none of that ship. So 1:59:30.200 --> 1:59:31.880 he would he would buck because he's like, there, ain't 1:59:31.880 --> 1:59:33.680 gonna let the niggas. They let all these niggas here 1:59:33.720 --> 1:59:35.760 with dope. So he like, shit, fuck this shit, I'm 1:59:35.760 --> 1:59:39.480 gonna go him. So should we get in now? I'm like, 1:59:39.560 --> 1:59:41.800 I'm really in this bitch. So we got there, We're 1:59:41.800 --> 1:59:44.480 going to We're going to section now, I'm in there. Section. 1:59:44.560 --> 1:59:47.120 I'm sitting down. Yeah, I ain't I ain't I want 1:59:47.200 --> 1:59:49.440 one of them niggas. Like you see me, watch me, 1:59:49.560 --> 1:59:51.440 you know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm sitting down 1:59:51.600 --> 1:59:54.560 like trying to like see what's going on, see the hall, 1:59:54.640 --> 1:59:56.520 you know what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying. 1:59:56.560 --> 2:00:00.720 So I look across, I look across the uh the thing, 2:00:00.800 --> 2:00:03.240 and they got the whole It's like it's like bruh, 2:00:03.280 --> 2:00:06.920 it's like a big ass section over there, like but 2:00:07.000 --> 2:00:10.320 it's like different sections. They had the whole spot over 2:00:10.400 --> 2:00:13.440 there though. It was like probably like eight sections over 2:00:13.520 --> 2:00:15.800 the mother, you know what I'm saying. And they just 2:00:16.000 --> 2:00:20.280 over there be I'm like, I'm like damn, Like okay, 2:00:20.360 --> 2:00:23.200 these big niggas. I'm like shit, because it's like you 2:00:23.280 --> 2:00:26.400 gotta like understand like when we used to have them, 2:00:26.480 --> 2:00:29.520 when we used had the meetings, you know, we had 2:00:29.560 --> 2:00:32.600 the meetings every every year with the NBA security and 2:00:32.600 --> 2:00:34.360 all that stuff. They had it on that shit like 2:00:34.480 --> 2:00:37.520 look man, like you see they see these people, man 2:00:38.480 --> 2:00:40.120 go the other way, you know what I'm saying. Like, 2:00:40.240 --> 2:00:43.480 so they putting fear in your heart already, you know 2:00:43.520 --> 2:00:45.080 what I'm saying. Like, so you're like, what the fuck 2:00:45.160 --> 2:00:48.560 going on. So, man, you see the unmarked black cars 2:00:48.600 --> 2:00:50.640 and shit like that. Man being like, you know what 2:00:50.680 --> 2:00:53.840 I'm saying, Like this, when I was young and single. 2:00:53.920 --> 2:00:56.320 You know what I'm saying. I pulled up. I used 2:00:56.360 --> 2:00:59.720 to like I was young, so like I wasn't dealing 2:00:59.760 --> 2:01:01.680 with the girls my age. You know what I'm saying, 2:01:01.720 --> 2:01:06.320 Like I'm eighteen, they like twenty six, nobody my age. 2:01:07.080 --> 2:01:08.680 So I pull up to her. How she likes to 2:01:08.720 --> 2:01:10.320 live on the east Side. I pull up and I 2:01:10.400 --> 2:01:13.560 see a little black Corvette in the driveway, So I 2:01:13.720 --> 2:01:17.400 put pull the cold of six. Ain't man, who the 2:01:17.480 --> 2:01:20.280 hell you know? Saying who the hell? Who? As I 2:01:20.560 --> 2:01:24.640 my sister and friend, I said, okay, shit, I'm gonna 2:01:24.640 --> 2:01:32.800 get what you later on. Yeah, I heard what I heard. 2:01:32.840 --> 2:01:39.960 What ship? It was the Cross Pass? Shit, I was pipe, bro, 2:01:41.760 --> 2:01:45.640 you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Said, 2:01:45.720 --> 2:01:48.920 no go yeah, but I've seen the eight Days. They 2:01:49.000 --> 2:01:51.960 had a they had a food last run boy, not 2:01:52.400 --> 2:01:55.560 fishing Atlanta. I mean, I'm watching the series now and 2:01:55.680 --> 2:01:58.360 I'm like, I wanted to see how it started because 2:01:58.960 --> 2:02:03.120 when it was like three oh, like that era. Man, 2:02:03.480 --> 2:02:07.280 that that year them years they had a Lando, and 2:02:07.400 --> 2:02:10.040 they had a land on and the chokehod. It really 2:02:10.160 --> 2:02:13.240 was about to like Jesus was about to help them, 2:02:13.680 --> 2:02:15.800 you know what I'm saying, Yeah, get on, but he 2:02:15.920 --> 2:02:20.120 just didn't. It was happening too slow. Yeah, yeah, that's crast. 2:02:20.160 --> 2:02:22.040 They probably had a bigger father. Every sports team in 2:02:22.320 --> 2:02:24.720 at the same time, the Falcons, the Hogs being bigger. 2:02:24.840 --> 2:02:28.880 They had billboards and ship man. Yeah it was I think, Uh, 2:02:29.600 --> 2:02:32.720 they weren't bigger than Vig. Nobody was bigger than might be, 2:02:32.920 --> 2:02:35.160 absolutely not. No, No, he was bigger. It might be. 2:02:35.480 --> 2:02:39.960 He was the man. He was the fucking man. Whenever 2:02:40.080 --> 2:02:42.800 that dog fight it was it was after being meth though, Yeah, 2:02:42.840 --> 2:02:45.160 that might be. Yeah, yeah, it was like a little 2:02:45.160 --> 2:02:47.840 after being man. It was like being math boomed. Then 2:02:47.920 --> 2:02:52.440 it was the ship right after that ship had remember 2:02:54.560 --> 2:02:58.440 come on the hot time, come on. He was the 2:02:58.520 --> 2:03:02.839 island and Irish and of football in like in Atlanta, 2:03:04.360 --> 2:03:06.640 like like I re Memb when I was younger and man, 2:03:06.840 --> 2:03:08.560 I used to see him. Man I used to be 2:03:08.680 --> 2:03:12.360 in the nosebleed brouh it'd be sold out. People used 2:03:12.360 --> 2:03:15.280 to love to see that man. Legend, legend and Mike Vig. 2:03:15.920 --> 2:03:20.800 He had Atlanto smash for sure. That's crazy. Great way 2:03:20.800 --> 2:03:22.760 to the end of great story, great guests. App cha, 2:03:22.880 --> 2:03:25.600 you're rocking with us like shit. Subscribe all that cool shit. 2:03:25.840 --> 2:03:28.360 Catch y'all next time. So yeah, sir,