WEBVTT - Craig Robinson 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:08.280 Hi, I'm Craig Robinson and I played Darryl Philbin on 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:20.000 The Office. Hello everybody, and welcome back to a brand 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.520 new episode of the Office Deep Dive, this time with 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.920 the hardest working man in show biz. Nope, not our guest, me, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:34.280 your host, Brian Bumgarner. Just kidding. You'll get that after 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.080 you listen to the episode today. As you just heard, 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:42.440 I'm bringing on possibly the most ambitious and certainly the 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.520 most competent employee at dunder Mifflin. That's right, the voice 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.520 of reason in all of the insanity, the incredible Craig Robinson. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.800 Like so many of the characters on the Office, a 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.480 lot of the inspiration, as you'll hear for Darryl Philbin 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:05.160 came from Craig's real personality. He is an incredible musician 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:10.039 and a hilarious comedian. Greg Daniels actually discovered him by 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.360 seeing him perform perhaps one of the greatest comedy songs 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:20.720 of all time, Somebody's Sucking Mi Lady. Now. Despite the name, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.480 and despite the fact that Craig admits to singing his 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.080 way into booty calls, he insists that his act is 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.280 a great place to take a date. And I agree. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:36.360 I highly recommended. Craig is amazing. In addition to his 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.720 work on the Office, He's gone on to work on 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:43.559 many other amazing projects, from Brooklyn nine nine to Hot 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.640 Tub Time Machine, to Cleveland Show and American Dad. I 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.680 know you've all been waiting to hear from him, and 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.160 I am so excited that today is finally the day, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.000 even though he didn't teach me any super cool new 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.320 phrases like dink and flick of. But before we dive in, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.960 just wanted to give you a quick reminder that the 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.160 world's best book, if I do say so myself, or 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.160 holiday present or late night reading, is already available right 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.919 now for pre order on Amazon. It is called Welcome 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.519 to dunder Mifflin, The Ultimate Oral History of the Office. 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.920 So go check that out and get ready to be 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.519 overtaken with your love for the show. But for now, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:29.200 the time has come to welcome our very own warehouse 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:38.240 foreman and my good friend, Craig Robinson. Bubble and Squeak. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:45.840 I love it. Bubble and squeakan Bubble and Squeaker cooking 0:02:46.120 --> 0:03:01.560 every month, left over from the night before. But what's up? 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:07.720 How you doing so? I mean, I'm good. It's been 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.160 so long since I saw you? How long? I mean 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.400 a couple of years. It's been a few what's new 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.079 in your life? I mean, I'm doing this right now. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.360 I'm on the road a lot you. Oh yeah, yeah. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.760 Is this thing on? Yeah, it's probably on. We start already. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.000 We'll not really tell the truth, man, I mean it's 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.960 it's recording, but I'm just interested in up. Okay, um 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:40.200 check check check check? Are you checking your sound? Yeah? 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.280 Are you a sound expert? Well, you're a musician, so yeah. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.240 I mean I don't know if it's going loud or 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:51.680 something there. Did I ever tell you the story? This 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:56.200 is before I think we had done the pilot only 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.640 and I hadn't been in l a very long. Did 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.800 I ever tell you going the Mbar story? For real? 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.520 I went to the m Bar and they used to 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.760 do like an open mic night, and somebody was like, oh, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.400 go to the m Bar. I think I knew somebody 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.560 who was like a server there, and I remember it 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.880 was David Cross was there, and Sarah Silverman some other 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:23.599 people and you you were so far and away. The 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.520 funniest thing that night, Well you had a guy with Yeah, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.040 I think me and Jerry did Yeah, Yeah, how many 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.280 shows you do a year? I mean how many cities? 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:40.919 Oh shows, shows are like you know, five sometimes seven 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:46.240 a weekend, So I probably do thirty thirty plus weeks. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.960 Are you jesus if I'm not filming myself? So you're 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:56.880 the hardest working manag show business? Not by um? Okay, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:03.600 So rewind back like two thousand three four? What were 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.520 you doing before the office came on? H stand up? 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.800 Doing much stand up? And you know, I had some 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:15.800 parts here and there. Um did a show called Lucky. Yep, 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.360 I was on FX and then a great show thank 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.320 You Coming. Yeah that was that was lightning in a 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:29.360 bottle right there. And then yeah it was two thousand one. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.240 We started four four yeah, okay, so yeah, so Lucky 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.400 and then about to stand up? I'm not sure. Did 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.320 you do Second City? Yeah? Chicago? Yeah, I did the 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.560 training st and I didn't do the okay, I just 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.039 did one through all the classes and then I moved 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:52.560 to l Okay. Um, you incorporate music a lot into 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.719 your stand up. Do you think that Darryl being a 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.599 musician on the show did that come from you? Do 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:02.119 you think the writers wrote that? Absolutely? Yeah? They they 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.480 We were like a towel being rung out. They got whatever. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.120 But whatever they knew we could do, they got it 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:13.119 out of us. Right. Absolutely, Yeah, you started pretty early. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.960 I mean I remember that Christmas episode you and I 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.240 think we were djay in the corner and then gradually 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:25.480 you star. Yeah, we had like what he called those 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.919 little balls that with the lights and uh disc disco ball. Obviously, 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.920 I mean for people who don't know, music comes very 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.400 easy to you. Yes, I have seen people hum you 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:44.560 tunes and you start playing well trained here is it 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.840 trained or is it natural? I mean both. You have 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.200 to sit down and like there's time I was sitting, like, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.599 play a song and breakdown note for note each churt 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.400 we wanted to play again. We want to play again 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.760 until I get and go through the whole song. And 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.159 he Once you do that, you know sometimes you start 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.360 you know, see patterns and you know, see what's going 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.920 on in the song. So that's how you learned. Do 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.920 you read music? Yeah, but how you do not like 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.760 I can hear me. It takes me a while to 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.560 read some music, but I can hear pretty good. You 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:26.480 hear better than anyone I've ever seen. Okay, No, I'm 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:31.800 just saying I'm trying. I don't know, but you trained 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.280 yourself to do that. I think people think about it 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.560 as being sort of a natural gift, but no, it's 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.640 definitely a gift. But it's it's you know, it's a gift. 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.480 You have to work for it. It's like you gotta 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.720 know you had the talent to do it and then 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:52.559 just developed that, right. I remember later on they kept 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:58.720 pairing me with you and Ed Helms in musical situations. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.320 It's the ZiT, Kevin and the Zitz. There was Kevin 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.720 and the Zitz, and I remember we would you know, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.960 we never had time to read the episodes before we 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.480 did them, and we would read the episodes and they 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.040 would be like song, song, song, and I don't know 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.400 if you knew this. I would go to them and 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.520 I would be like, okay, when is rehearsals? When is rehearsal? 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:19.800 And then I would come to you and I'd be 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.360 like all right, you guys, can we And you'd be 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.360 like yeah, yeah, no, we're good, We're good, and Ed 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.080 be the same way, like as like, no, no, that's fine, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.080 No I got it, And I was like no, no, no, guys, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.239 I don't have it. I don't know what the hell 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.480 I'm doing. Um there's a quote that has been attributed 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.760 to you which that you basically started doing music because 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.160 it's there were so many funny people in Chicago that 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.240 you wanted to do something that was different in a way. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:51.760 Is that true? Not exactly? Okay, Um, I just you know, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:58.120 it's my thing. And I had a song that I 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.040 did in college that transferred over to the stage. I 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.520 would like play, you know, piano, the same singing to 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.760 a girl on the phone, you know, singing a nice 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.760 and like talking to a singing to a little bit. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.360 You know, it's romantic. And I hit up with it, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:17.520 can I have some booty? Right? And then I was like, okay, him, 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.640 listen to see if she's laughing and watched so if 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.640 she's laughing, okay, we're good. But so then I did 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.720 that like a I don't know, some open mic kind 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.760 of thing. But it when the open mic, it was like, 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.360 you know, actors in the room on a Friday night, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.720 like you know, and then you just did what you do. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.440 So they wants to start doing comedy. I went up 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.240 and did this show and uh, it didn't go too well. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.200 I was just think all heckless heaven. It's in Chicago, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.280 and you get eight minutes to perform. The first three minutes, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.840 nobody gets the mess with you. From the third minute 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.280 on if people wanted to hecker you. There are three 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.360 people in the audience who have rubber chickens. If you've 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.640 got all three rubber chickens, you had to get off stage. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.760 And then uh, three people have score cards. So I 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.920 got two rubber chickens the first night, and before I 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.480 get there, I'm not getting a third chicken. It's good night. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.320 Then the next week I came back with my keyboard. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.760 That was all she wrote. You did the song that 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:22.000 ends with your buddy getting the phone. Um, somebody's sucking 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.600 my lady. Somebody's sucking my lady. Yeah, somebody's Yeah. That's 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.280 that's what you saw. That's what I saw at MBAR. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.640 That's what got me like they got me in front 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.040 of Apple Town to get me in front of Greg Daniels. Yeah. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.240 When I did my audition for the Office, Great Games 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.600 was like, doesn't get any funny into that. I was like, okay, 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.920 now audition, Like, oh what like items like a big 0:10:47.000 --> 0:11:11.240 voted confidence right, I'm thinking like, oh man, now do 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.080 you do lucky and then you're doing stand up and 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.080 then how did you did you know about the Office 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:24.120 before you came on? I saw the British pilot on 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:29.640 an airplane and I was dying, right, and I was like, damn, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.640 I wish I could find it, you know. And one 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.160 day I was like drumming past Sev and I saw 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.760 a picture David Brent. Now that's that's the dude from 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.319 this show, you know. And then I end up getting 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.800 the audition. No, I didn't know much about except for 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:49.600 that pilot, right. And when you got the audition was 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.520 did you think it was just for one episode or 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.679 were they sang like you may come around. No, it 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.520 was just I mean it was it was the first season, right, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.360 so you didn't even know, you know, way I was 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.840 getting what was going on. So I just came in 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.959 and did the did the audition, and they called me 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.440 later after y'all get well under way. I was established 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.240 an episode for Yeah, And did you know Allison Jones 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.280 before that? I don't know if I worked with Alison. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.480 I'm not before that. No, you know what let missing? 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.960 I think I had gotten forty I'm sorry, knocked up? 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.040 How did I do that? Everybody does that to me 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.640 fort Your Virgin. I'm like, no, it's knocked up, knocked 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.400 up and I just messed it up. I got auditioned 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.760 for Fortio Virgin, but I didn't get that, but I 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.600 did get knocked up. So I'm not sure exactly when 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.520 want happened right right right at first? But did you 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.800 know that it was had the possibility to to recur 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.640 at that point or zero idea of just doing a 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:55.880 job right? What was different for you or was there 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.960 anything different for you in terms of the way that 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.240 the show was shot. Yeah, that was. It was way different. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.160 Like everything else was like a movie was you know, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.360 the two cameras doing a thing, but nobody was swinging 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.160 cameras around, right. I feel like Daryl, you know, even 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.880 from the beginning, had kind of a gem thing with 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.000 the camera, like it felt like you were on the 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.760 same page, Like you would do the looks to the camera, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.160 like did you just see that idiot. I didn't get 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:29.360 a lot of camera looks untill later, but people do say, yeah, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.719 see me as a voice of reason and in all 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:38.560 the insanity. Yeah. Ben Silverman says that you're the smartest 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.199 person who worked at Dunner Mifflin. Well, no, not you, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.000 but Darryl, right right, right right, I can see that. Yeah, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.800 Daryl was just trying to you know, be honest, make 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.599 an honest buck, And I couldn't believe a lot of 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.120 things that I was going around him. And you know, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.840 he knew he had to keep the piece and knew 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:02.880 he had to uh keep his job. So I don't 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.360 I don't think he has without smart in these cats. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.760 He just was, you know, just like would you beliet 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.600 these cats? You know, but it felt like, you know, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.760 they showed a lot that the warehouse maybe was run 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.600 more efficiently than the regular office. Like you were you 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:26.760 were good. Yeah. Um. Darryl's relationship with Michael in the show, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.240 it was a very like he kept coming to you 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:35.560 for advice, particularly on black culture. It was a very 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.480 very funny dynamic. What was your experience working with Steve? 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:46.480 He's the greatest. The way he could turn it comedy 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:52.160 button off and on like a falsett. It was just 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.360 genius to me. Whenever I had seen with him moment 0:14:55.400 --> 0:15:01.200 and I was like titilation, you know, very exciting, and 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.520 I learned from him, stole from him all of that. Yeah, 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.480 it's funny. That you said you said that because I 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:08.800 thought you were going to say something else, which I 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.800 think is also true. Is part of his genius is 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:16.440 how he turns so quick, even within a scene. You 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.720 know what I mean, But he is he is fighting 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.360 down one path and something may happen and he just 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:26.000 turns it like that and he's like, you know, ultimate scene, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:31.320 part of two. He listens and reacts two. You know 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.680 what's going on? Like we had a scene I didn't 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:41.680 even really notice until it aired. It was a negotiations. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.920 It might be my favorite episode just because the work 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.560 I did with Steve and being able to play with 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.720 him like that. It was a scene where he's like, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.480 I'm not going to speak first, like to tlie to 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.440 speak first. So we did a couple of takes and 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.560 it was fine, uh, And then he did his next 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.080 take and he's making these faces and if you look closely, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:10.640 you can see Meet started crack a smile on that. 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.440 But it was just like, without even speaking, he could, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.680 you know, pull us out of you. The laughter is like, oh, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.040 he's about to get me. But also in that episode 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.200 when I was saying uh, where he listens and you know, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.760 like the perfect improvisation partner. You're listening and take it 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.800 to the next level. So we're talking about, you know, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.200 getting raged from Jan and I said, make it happen, Captain, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:48.720 he said, I will, Sergeant, my god, game amazing. Do 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:53.240 you think that your relationship with him evolved throughout the show? Yeah, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:58.000 but I think everybody's everybody evolved in that show. Everybody 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:03.040 I went through character development. Um, that's one of the 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.879 things that makes it what it is. People got to 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.960 know these people, right. But yeah, I think every every 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.240 situation evolved to something. I mean, you started out and 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:19.280 your episodes were mainly about like the office versus the warehouse, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:24.120 whether directly in basketball or like a weird class thing 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.520 where you have like the white collar and the blue collar. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.480 Talk to me about the transition for you character wise 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.000 or as an actor of you finally coming up and 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:39.400 being a regular part of like the Bullpen characterise. Um, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.520 it felt like like it did in real life, like 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:48.160 oh many making you a regular, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:53.359 So definitely move on up for Craig Infidery, you know, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.400 and it was like more responsibility. And Rain used to say, 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.200 I had the sweetest schedule in Hollywood. Is that I 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.840 would come in for like an episode here and then 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:06.840 four weeks later come in do the Christmas episode. But yeah, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.639 character wi it was it was like, yeah, step up 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.760 and okay, let's starting to see you know, starting to 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.680 feel me. And for Craig myself, it was like, hey, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.919 this is this is awesome, like because I didn't understand, 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.520 like I thought we were a year to year like 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.760 every other show. You know, you don't know, you don't know, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.000 But it was something about the offered like like I 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.280 remember one one year they were like many was like, yeah, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.160 we're gonna be dating, and it didn't happen for a year, 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:37.960 and I kind of forgot about in the next year 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.400 we were dating. I was like, Oh, that's that's interesting. 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:45.959 How do you'll know we're gonna be picked up? You know? 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.760 I guess you don't know, but you do that kind 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:55.800 of I wasn't, you know, none of those conversations. So 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.520 one of the people that I've talked to is TV critic, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.320 and she talked about The Office. One of the things 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.919 that was notable about it was that it was she 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.199 defined it as casually diverse. Do you feel like the 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.000 Office in terms of race or your experience, do you 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.320 feel like it it did something right or wrong in 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:19.600 terms of that it presented us as people, and that's 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.720 all right with me. I don't notice right or wrong. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.600 I think casually diverse is a great way to put it. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.000 But it just, you know, we would regularly it would 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.959 look like a real office. We weren't like, you know, 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:39.080 models walking around. It was so proper dialogue. This was 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.480 like just Okay, these are people. Someone probably has something 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:48.160 mentally problems that they need to take care of right there, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.879 unleashed on society and it's fine. Do you think the 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:57.119 show did anything in terms of a positive message in 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:02.240 terms of diversity or race? I mean, you were nominated 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.880 for three and double a CP Awards, correct lost three, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.840 Nick Cannon, Ice Cube, and somebody else. But um, I 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:19.840 mean people from all walks of life love the Office. 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.680 So I wish I could speak to that specifically. Somebody, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.840 you know, somebody would be like, you know what, I 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.960 had a problem with black people, But it's just that show. 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.480 You know, I don't know, right, I just don't know 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.359 that answer. You know what's funny? This is kind of 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.880 side note. Someone pointed this out that in Christmas Party, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.960 we were talking about before season two Michael tells Darryl 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:48.159 that he can't wear a Santa hat, and eight years 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:52.680 later Megan Kelly there was a controversy was started by 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:57.080 Santa Clauss white kids. Yeah, like he was before anyone 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.800 ever knew who Meg and Kelly was. He was making 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.679 a joke out of what she would say in the future, 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.360 calling America. Yeah, um, do you do that in your 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:15.720 comedy race? Yeah, stuff, we're just about America. No, not really. No, 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:21.160 I have a date XT my acting mostly for like lovers. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.800 It's a great date night. I mean it's for everybody, 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.600 but it's a couples get I don't know, a boost 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.479 out of it, a boot, like a sexual boost. Something 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.920 you give a sexual boost, something deftly happens. Yeah, I'm 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.040 definitely about the you know, the relationship. But interesting, I 0:21:39.119 --> 0:22:02.399 wonder what my vibe is. I don't think it's that. Yeah. 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.879 Darrell eventually interviews to be the new manager. Did you 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:14.359 want that? John? No? Why I just didn't. They were 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.320 talking about me being it and I was, and on 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.720 time I went up to Paul, I'm like, hey man, 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.399 just uh, you know, just put that in your pocket 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.200 game of dollar, Like you're thinking about the manager but 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.240 I was no. I did not want to be managing. 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.440 I thought that was interesting that my name got brought 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.040 up and it was cool, and you know, I thought 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:34.879 about it, but that would be like and all that. 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.960 But no, it seemed like it looked like a lot 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:44.840 of work. Way different than rain talking about your schedule 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:49.840 coming in one episode for four. Yeah, but the path 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:56.280 to that, Oh was amazing. Uh, it's gonna go Kathy 0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:01.920 Bates and Will fare All, Will j Aimes, James Spader. 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.360 I look back at some of those episodes like, that's right, 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:12.480 that actually happened, Spade. It was incredible, man, God damn. Yeah. 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.040 How was it like working with you know, once Steve left? 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.160 Working with those guys, I mean, these are legends coming 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:23.119 in and you just like hanging out, no battle trailer, Oh, 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:27.720 what's up? Catherine Tate? Katherine Tate, who I don't know 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:32.080 anything about Melan That's that's my homie Steel to this day, 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.720 she's the best Spader. How is working with Spader different 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:40.800 than Steve Well? I mean, you know, Spader, He's how 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:44.880 do you describe the guy? He's his own world, he's 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.720 his own I don't know. It was cool, it was 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.840 real cool. He was you know, chatty and you know, 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.520 say what's up and he's smoothed with it, but you 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:59.399 know he's got that weird, creepy funny and Steve was 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:05.679 just like a falsetto whatever you needed. And in Spade 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:10.320 of eight they wrote to him beautifully. Yeah. He It 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.440 was just interesting how they just approached it in a 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:19.800 totally opposite way from like really wanting a crafted acting 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:26.159 performance to way more sort of improv fass Ale. Yeah, 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.280 you were talking before about the leading up to Darryl 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.520 becoming the manager and getting to work with all of 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.639 those people. I mean, that was that was a huge 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.960 storyline for you. I mean, and then eventually you going 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.600 off and working with Jim. Do you think today Darryl 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.840 would still be working with Jim at the Athlete Athlete 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:51.080 Oh yeah, oh yeah. They be at all no dope 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:56.760 games and killing it. Heck yeah, I mean, I'm sure 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.960 he would have found another way to rise about his point, 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:04.480 but uh, may views in his own company. Who knows 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:09.680 Daryl was ambitious? Yeah. Uh again, going back to Ben's 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.119 talking about Darryl being the smartest person in the office, 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.200 but he was overlooked a lot. I sort of like 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.679 you know, like Kevin was overlooked. Um in the basketball 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.879 episode like where I was like, oh, yeah, of course 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:27.480 that guy can't play, and then you know you exactly, Darrel, 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.159 know you really are an athletes? Really I am. I 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:35.520 mean we on a south Fall killed bro, you killed? 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:43.840 Oh I forgot about that stuff like Okay, don't make 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.440 me run that fast. That's all hit it far enough 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.399 so that hit it far enough so I don't have 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:52.000 to run so fast. Yeah, but Daryl, But it felt 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:56.800 like Darryl kept being overlooked, at least by Michael. I 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.879 mean he was in the warehouse, he put in the 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.600 you know, trying to be looked at. I guess what 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:08.560 was your negotiation? Was that your favorite episode? Probably? Yeah, 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:13.359 just the sheer amount of work Mike and idea. And 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.880 they said people only want to call him Mike. That's right. 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.280 I didn't even realize that. Yeah, you're the only one 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.280 who called him Mike. Um, what was it? What was 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.240 it like for you working with Krasinski? How was he 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.560 different than Steve? And he's a paint in the ass, 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:36.120 But it was that John always struck me. I mean 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.840 he just knew like he feels like he was you know, 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.080 just just brilliant dude. You know. Uh, I love his 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:50.359 directing and he's funny, you know when he wanted to be, 0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:55.720 but he was the more the leading man kind of dude. Yeah, 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.119 but you know he was always cool man. It was 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:04.080 great in the finale. Um, do you remember what happens 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.520