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Speaker 1: Are you choosing to be selectively ignorant for this topic

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Speaker 2: Maybe I am just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I am heavily leaning into my hypocrisy while also wanting

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Speaker 2: We are talking about art versus the artist.

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Speaker 1: And if you guys follow me or listen to me

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Speaker 1: that I have not removed R Kelly from my playlist.

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Speaker 1: You may also know that Christopher Maurice.

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Speaker 2: Brown can do no wrong in my eyes.

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Speaker 1: However, I am so confused at why y'all were celebrating

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Speaker 1: the release of Vibes Cartel. Vibes Cartel turned a whole

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Speaker 1: man into a meat ball, and y'all cannot wait to

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Speaker 1: pawn the cocky and for his songs that again I

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Speaker 1: don't think are that great, But you know who else's

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Speaker 1: discography I also don't think is that great. Tory Lanez

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Speaker 1: and y'all are still upset that he's behind bars, and

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Speaker 1: even if he gets from behind bars, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be deported. And I could care less about any of

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Speaker 2: He has going on.

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Speaker 1: The music is not music, and like y'all think it is,

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Speaker 1: do not look like this. My guest is over here curaging.

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Speaker 3: Am I a frame?

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Speaker 2: I don't know yet.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how editing. I will never not listen

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Speaker 3: to rain Shops for the rest of my life. Like

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Speaker 3: that's is like one of the greatest songs that's ever

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Speaker 2: Yo, here we go.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it today to talk art versus the artist

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Speaker 1: with my guests, he.

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Speaker 3: Spun It's like a satellite dish. Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I want to know how many times in the last

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Speaker 1: decade you have played Rompin Shop Rory.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thousands and thousands and thousands. I remember the day

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Speaker 3: that came out when I was in my freshman dorm room.

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Speaker 2: And I love that played it since freshman year.

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Speaker 3: I could probably do that song at karaoke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you like that.

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Speaker 3: I know every lyric in patsuak.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to hear.

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Speaker 3: Let me hear that, say that'll be another episode for that. No,

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Speaker 3: they're outraged, you're outraged.

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear. I mean, that would be

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, school, I've already done my potswah on my

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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna start with me

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Speaker 3: doing horrible potswah no, no, no, no, We're not gonna

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Speaker 2: I just think that.

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Speaker 1: Based on even what I said, I think we have

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Speaker 1: And I think, and I mean clearly, I opened up

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Speaker 2: Basketball game for the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Apple came out and said that they believe that he's

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Speaker 1: So I'm just like when I sit here and see

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Speaker 3: Out of y'all?

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Speaker 1: I am joined by can I say, social commentator in podcast.

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Speaker 2: Rory from the New RORYA Maul Show. And he is

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Speaker 1: He is also the manager of Emotional Oranges, which is

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Speaker 1: Okay, So based around my intro in my hot takes

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Speaker 3: I agree with you on the Chris Brown celebrity basketball situation,

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't add context when women are abused, but no,

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Speaker 3: Bit more context to certain things than what Dre was doing.

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Speaker 3: Of And that's what's so tricky about cancel culture. Because

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Speaker 3: do a background check. If Chris wasn't allowed to play,

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Speaker 2: No, it does.

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Speaker 1: Like I know they a couple of years ago, the

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Speaker 3: They don't care about that. They just care about what

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Speaker 1: No, I think the problem is and it's kind of

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Speaker 2: Out the bullshit of y'all.

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Speaker 1: They want to see video or photos, So I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I mean is unfair. But then there's also

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Speaker 3: Though that was laid on that from covid on, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say from the met movement, I'm.

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Speaker 3: On the side of we should out the gate, believe

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Speaker 1: So before, before we get into the hook, do you

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Speaker 3: Again, drawing the line gets weird. I'm very pro Palestine. Right,

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about how we quote unquote cancel things,

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Speaker 1: down all the corporations you got, I got, you got Goa.

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Speaker 2: I ain't never get rid of them, Goia boxes a total.

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Speaker 5: Don't I buy Iberia? They donated Trump.

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Speaker 3: So fat people like Trump.

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Speaker 1: Is there a way then to not be a hypocrite

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Speaker 3: No, she not in Florida. You know what's crazy. That's

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Speaker 3: Just as long as a whole group of people aren't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the generation above us knew about r Kelly. They

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Speaker 1: long as everyone's not talk about it, no one cares.

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Speaker 1: So you, as a manager of a group, if something

445
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: comes out about someone that you work with or your

446
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: group specifically, let's do it that way.

447
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 2: And you disagree with the nature of it, say you.

448
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: Know, and I don't want to throw anything negative because

449
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: they're luckily are too great.

450
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not just start start rumors.

451
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: Not but this is a hypothetical if they had come

452
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 1: out or had gotten into a domestic dispute, say in

453
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: their personal relationship, either or would how would you involve

454
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: yourself or remove yourself in that matter, based on even

455
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: how you've stood in not listening to ditty, you can't

456
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: not listen to your art.

457
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 6: Okay.

458
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: Let's let's say, in this absolute hypothetical, if there was

459
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: a video similar to what Diddy's was of one of

460
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 3: my artists, I would immediately immediately remove myself leave from

461
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 3: that shit.

462
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 5: Now.

463
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: There wouldn't even need to be a conversation like this

464
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: is done, terminated. Okay, yeah, I wouldn't even think twice

465
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: about that. Now, if what's weird with cancel culture and

466
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 3: even going through all this list, we're treating everything as

467
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: felony won when some things are shoplifting and it shouldn't

468
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 3: be this, and it shouldn't be the same sentence like

469
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: the way they killed the baby. The baby and Bill

470
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Cosby are not the same. Okay, Okay, I'll go okay.

471
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: But outside of the legal stuff, were treated with the

472
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: same exact sentence of you did this, now we can't

473
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: fuck with you. And one person stole a piece of

474
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 3: gum and one person drugged women and raped them.

475
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: Well, I think the same way you brought up the

476
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: era of the rock stars, I think that's the issue

477
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: that a lot of people were dealing with with Bill Cosby.

478
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: Right the era that Bill Cosby was doing these things,

479
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: Spanish fly.

480
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 3: Was a thing.

481
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: These drugs are what you did in Hollywood and mind

482
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: you still happening to this day. So unfortunately, a lot

483
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: of the women who came out and said what had

484
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: happened to them at the time it was that rock

485
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: star lifestyle might go make it now.

486
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: When you go, it's not. There's a lot of gray

487
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: area because the Spanish fly is one thing. Oh yeah,

488
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: the other stuff. Putting kayludes in women's drinks without them

489
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: knowing so they till they blackout is not the same

490
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: as having some Spanish fly in the eighties with people

491
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 3: that you know consented to that. But isn't isn't it

492
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: Spanish fly? Isn't Quael Louse the thing that makes it

493
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: Spanish fly?

494
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, it's like a day just.

495
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: Like put orange uice in it and then the Spanish fly.

496
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, but then you want to know what's crazy

497
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 2: that all happened? And we still have ross was.

498
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: Put in mind even know so like.

499
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: It's it's it's not time.

500
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Speaker 3: I think that sentence, Yes, insane to put molly in

501
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: a woman's drink that does not know it. That is

502
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: disgusting and gross. But then after that he said I

503
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: took her home and enjoyed that she didn't even know it.

504
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: No, so that wait, why did they not lean into

505
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: that part of the goddamn verse.

506
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: Dropping Molly in its six drinks? That's what Listen, We're

507
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: all adults here, and we unfortunately know that that is

508
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: a thing. I also come from college fret culture. I

509
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: know I've heard plenty of stories. My chapter never did that,

510
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 3: but I would be very ignorant to say that there

511
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: has not been plenty of other chapters that have put

512
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: certain things in the punch. Now that's one thing. Yes,

513
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: it's fucked up, But the second line of I took

514
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: her home and enjoyed that she didn't even know it's

515
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: fucking No. One in the studio was like, he deserves that, man.

516
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: He deserves to lose that. What was it a case

517
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Swiss deal?

518
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: No case Swiss for it? Rebod, Oh are you losing

519
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: a case with hilarious? No? He did he.

520
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: Lost that ship.

521
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: Okay, So then let me ask you, because to me,

522
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby, yes, canceled. Even though I know there's a

523
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: teetering line with comedians and what really they're allowed to

524
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: do or say, I do stand on In the last

525
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: ten years, the baby has been the only person that

526
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: in real time we have all seen get canceled.

527
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that or do you not agree

528
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: with that?

529
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: I think it was the funniest way anyone's ever been canceled.

530
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: Not the funniest one.

531
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: You know, you know the alphabet community for you know,

532
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: I am an ally whatever that last letter is, that's

533
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: the plus sign. Yeah, like a front of the program,

534
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm the plus one. I am a with a lot

535
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: of women there, gay bestie, I am one thousand percent

536
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: with the community. But gay people cannot watch that clip,

537
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: can not find yo make some noise if you didn't

538
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: suck your man's dick in the parking lot and not laugh. Okay,

539
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: well we know that.

540
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: The issue was his additional comment that also leaned into cause, yeah,

541
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't like the gays with HIV.

542
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: He brought up like he do. You have exactly what he.

543
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 4: Said about saying, if the foony guys on a volunteero

544
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 4: to read it with HIV.

545
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Or AIDS or any of them deadly sexually transmitted diseases,

546
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: that'll make you die in two to three weeks.

547
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: Then put your cell phone light in the air.

548
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: This isick. He's bringing awareness to a an epidemic.

549
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: Ladies, if your Christy smells like water, put a cell

550
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: phone light in the air. Fellas, if you ain't sucking

551
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: nigga dick in the parking lot, put your cell phone

552
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: lights in the air.

553
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: Keep it fucking real.

554
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 6: What he was trying to be a comedian, that's all.

555
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Oh, but see he ain't got that slash.

556
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: I haven't.

557
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 6: Keep it.

558
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: First of all, that first part homophobic, But in no

559
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: way am I the one that should gauge what's homophobic

560
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: or not. I'm not part of that for three weeks,

561
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: but I didn't connect HIV to who's ever was sucking

562
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: a man's dick in the parking lot?

563
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 6: Like.

564
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: He didn't say anything about gay people in the HIV aids.

565
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 3: He didn't, And I think that's actually homophobic to think

566
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: that only gay people have. However, no, no, no, no.

567
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Well where if you look at this though, he says, fellas,

568
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: if you ain't sucking like so he didn't dure us

569
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: that it's a homosexual act between two men. Now, so

570
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: that's where I think they combined the first one.

571
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: Because you're suggesting he thinks the only way to get

572
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: AIDS is if you suck a guy's dick in the

573
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: parking lot.

574
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: First off, I don't like that he ain't like the

575
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: FREA codes because that's where you need to be sucking

576
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: your nigga dick, isn't the parking lot.

577
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: So I think this my theory is this was specifically

578
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: about somebody that was there. Oh Miami, this is Miami

579
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: Rolling Loud. This was so fucking random and weird. There's

580
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: no way this could have just been a broad statement.

581
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: You think he thought he won thousand percent, saw somebody

582
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: he knew who is who is straight sucking dick in

583
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: the parking lot at Rolling Loud or whatever the fuck

584
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: it was. Oh, that's my theory because no one just

585
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: randomly says that. I mean, that doesn't make any sense.

586
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: You don't have to be contexted every No, that would

587
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: be aggressively random.

588
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what is he talking about? No, that somebody

589
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: in that crowd went and I.

590
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 4: Was keeping fucking real does make more sense as an

591
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: endpoint if he's talking about somebody specific.

592
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the way the way Hove would sub a

593
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: rapper and only that rapper would know about the bar.

594
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 3: Only two people knew.

595
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 6: Good point.

596
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: You know that this is his version of that's a lot.

597
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Only y'all are up North, guys.

598
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: This is just how squnchry niggas. He is from North.

599
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Carolina and he gonna say some off the wall ships

600
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: like this, because when you from the South, you just

601
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: say some off the wall ship.

602
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: This is literally what you.

603
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 6: Do if it is plausible. He's seen something.

604
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: So here's theory.

605
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: Here's my thing.

606
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: The The reason why this then became cancelable, well, he

607
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: became cancelable.

608
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: From this is because he doubled down.

609
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: So it was the constant going on his Instagram live.

610
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: He didn't apologize when the community said they felt offended.

611
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: There wasn't an apology and he really was like, y'all,

612
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: don't deal with y'all type of gaze, y'all, dirty gaze y'all,

613
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: And it was just it was the double down. I

614
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: also think and I was a huge fan of his.

615
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: I did think he was the next coming of Ludacris.

616
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say Christ, but he was an upcoming

617
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: of Ludacris as an artist.

618
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: I've actually never heard that comparison, but I think it's

619
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: great comparison.

620
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: Was Oh my god, is the way he had his

621
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: music videos It was great.

622
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: Videos were very looting.

623
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: I think outside of losing the gay audience, which to

624
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: be fair, I don't even think realistically was his audience,

625
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: I think he also lost a couple months later, six

626
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: months later, his woman audience when he decided to bring

627
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: Tory Lanez out at Rolling Loud again.

628
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: So you lose your female audience in your gay audience.

629
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: But in six months and then he did that intro

630
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: which I publicly that was point yeah when he said

631
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: I was fucking megged two days before, so it was like, yeah,

632
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: why did you even say that? He just moved nasty,

633
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: and I think he just took the he leaned into

634
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: the villain shit like if if you guys are going

635
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: to quote unquote cancel me and think I'm a villain,

636
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go all the way with it. Yeah, guess

637
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: what I was doing toy Like, oh, y'all.

638
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: Thought I was a villain. I'm bringing all my hot

639
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: takes here.

640
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: What I What I do actually love about the baby though,

641
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: is recently, when he went on his press run for

642
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: his last project, he said he wanted to manifest him

643
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: and Meg working together again, and.

644
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: That pissed me off.

645
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: It made me. No. No, it's a different type of delusion,

646
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: not only delusion, like but that you don't appreciate that

647
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: audacity though, like you have to somewhat respect someone saying

648
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: something so stupid.

649
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: No, you know why I don't respect it, because that's

650
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: what men have, is the audash. Niggas will sit here

651
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and do the most trifling shit to you and then

652
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: have the nerve to propose, like maybe you you held

653
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: me down through all my bullshit, let me come and

654
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: make you my wife.

655
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: You brought out after you worked with Meg, had two

656
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: amazing records. Y'all were performing NonStop together. You then for no,

657
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: for no apparent reason, because you and Tory was never

658
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: like pick of Steve's and were at all like you

659
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: see the baby see Tory. No, that was never a thing.

660
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: You even went on fucking quarantine with a toy.

661
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: So then you take you have the guy that shot

662
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: me come out, and then after that math go, yo,

663
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: you know I was fucking heard the day before this guy.

664
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: You know, they go, maybe she'll work with me again.

665
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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna lie to put it all to ust.

666
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Speaker 1: I not only blame the audacity of men. But that

667
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Speaker 1: is what happens when you deal with short kings ladies.

668
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Speaker 3: That is why Meg. Meg definitely went through a short

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Speaker 3: arrow for sure. No.

670
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Speaker 2: No, but tall women mostly date dates guys. They do.

671
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Speaker 3: They have definitely climb some trees they do.

672
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Speaker 1: It is crazy because yes, in twenty twenty, in twenty twenty.

673
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Speaker 2: Uh, there was a.

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Speaker 1: Tweet that said, I'm convinced they need to have Tory

675
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Speaker 1: Lanes on Lip Service or Horrible Decisions podcast. And yes,

676
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Speaker 1: I responded in twenty twenty and said I'd love to

677
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Speaker 1: bring Tory on.

678
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Speaker 2: I will say I no longer stand by this tweet.

679
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's not fair to you. Why.

680
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Speaker 2: I know, because this was before everyone, before.

681
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Speaker 4: The shot, I could see things though, you can see things,

682
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Speaker 4: you could tell No, you know what's.

683
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Speaker 3: Crazy by the way, worried this is hypocritical of me? Hypocritical?

684
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, this is hypocritical.

685
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is very hypocritical again, because I

686
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: did say this prior to the shooting.

687
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have had Lanes on the pod prior

688
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: to that.

689
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Come to think of it, though, is there an artist

690
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: now that you actually would still want to sit with

691
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: that has either been cancellable or have done some kind

692
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Speaker 1: of questionable things.

693
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: Because is this grace walking into the room to hold you.

694
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Speaker 2: Niggas got mad at me.

695
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Speaker 1: Uh, because we had Party come on and people were

696
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: upset that we allowed Party to speak about the end

697
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: of his relationship with Meg and thought that we should

698
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: have sat with Meg. Well, Meg was only sitting with

699
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: the crackers. Meg didn't want to sit with no blackoutless

700
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Speaker 1: at the time.

701
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Speaker 3: This also goes back to egregious sentences that are different

702
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: Party and Meg. He never did no weird shit did it?

703
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: But but that's what I'm saying as a man.

704
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: Though you can't have a cheater on your podcast. Podcasting

705
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: is gonna it's dead. There's no more.

706
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: There's no more podcasts on your podcast, no podcast.

707
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: Who can't do that? Not bell Party is the Bellaia podcast?

708
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: He is okay is? But no?

709
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Is there is there an artist that you think you

710
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: would get pushback from for having on your show that

711
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: people may seem like, damn Mary?

712
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: Would you even give him a platform to speak?

713
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: Uh? Probably Tory would be the cop out answer, because

714
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: if Maul and I were probably like the only two

715
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: male podcasters that were super vocal against Tory Lanes okay,

716
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: like everyone in media was teaen toy that needs to

717
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 3: be studied by generals. The pr flip that Tory Lanez did,

718
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 3: oh yeah, needs to be studied, like by world leaders,

719
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: like Putin needs to go and talk with Tory about

720
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: how he switched that narrative. He shot a woman in

721
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: the foot and then the entire world and I was like, nah.

722
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: Now I ain't gonna hold you.

723
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Speaker 1: When I saw the documentary and he had hot girl

724
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: specials and a horse and he was cutting up a

725
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: horse leg that I would have locked him away just

726
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: for that.

727
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: Keep them throw away the key.

728
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: That was crazy. So the so there's not an artist,

729
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: you think.

730
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Speaker 3: What would be the purpose? I guess would it be

731
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: to discuss the bad shit that they did or just

732
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Speaker 3: have them on to promote their shit?

733
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: Well, then let me let me ask you, as someone

734
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: who like an.

735
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Speaker 3: So, I think there was some super corny shit that

736
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: he's done, but I don't think he's passed a line

737
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: where it's like he's inhumane, we can't even speak to him.

738
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Speaker 2: Would you have had Trump on your show?

739
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 6: No?

740
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Speaker 3: Really, And as I don't want to sound like some

741
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: moral high ground person, I don't think I would be

742
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: right for that conversation. I would rather that opportunity go

743
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: to somebody that's going to get something real and important

744
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: from him. I'm not the political he doesn't say anything

745
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: real or important. Well, I thought, you know, I don't

746
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: think he's saying he wants to interview or to challenge

747
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: him with real parts and stuff. Whereas you don't think

748
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: you could do that, he's saying somebody better could do it.

749
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: I think, yes, I think I would definitely be able

750
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: to do it, and I would prepare for it. But

751
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: I still think that opportunity should go to someone that's

752
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: like more well versed in that. For example, we had

753
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: Candace Owens people reach out to us.

754
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: That's another okay, And.

755
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: I definitely disagree with Candace Owens want a lot of stuff,

756
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: But that's not the reason I didn't want to have

757
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: her on there. Okay, so well versed in her talking

758
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 3: points that she's fed and recites in the mirror. Yeah,

759
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: she's gonna eat Maana up when it comes to political

760
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: shit because we are just not as well versed in it. Yeah,

761
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: So I'm going to pass on that because it's not

762
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: my thing.

763
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: I will say the person that Weezy and I both

764
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: wanted on the pod that now if we had her. Actually,

765
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: there's two people that if we had on our pod today,

766
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: I think would get us in some hot shit. One

767
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz just because of his jokes around black women

768
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: specifically and even what happened with shits and gigs, and

769
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: me and Weezy both had opposing thoughts on that. And

770
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: the second person would be m Burrows, even as someone

771
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: who has been had the slut walk and seemed to

772
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: be pro but now heavily being a Trump supporter in

773
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: this last yeah presidential election. I think that our audience

774
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: would really question us sitting and even what the purpose

775
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: would be and having a conversation with those two people

776
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: on knowing what they put out into the world.

777
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, are you more on

778
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: the side of we should always have dialogue or we

779
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: should not platform certain people period.

780
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: I think that's where I think the line blurs. I

781
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: think it's not so black and white there, because again,

782
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: the bigger your platform is the more if you allow

783
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: that person to sit up and say the same shit,

784
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: you're literally pushing their same narrative whether you agree with

785
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: it or not.

786
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: I think that.

787
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: That's the thing about even the backlash around the Shifts

788
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: and Gig episode, right, you could have requested to edit

789
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: that out. So if me, as the owner of this pod,

790
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: choose us to have someone's pew some bullshit rhetoric that

791
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I fully do not agree with, but also I allow

792
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: it to be shot out into the universe, that's a

793
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: part of why this show is here too. I do

794
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: think that people are waiting for think pieces.

795
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 3: You're being hypocrite, why because you said comedians get some

796
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: grace and rooms.

797
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't.

798
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: I don't like, I don't believe. I don't you think

799
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: it's okay for Chappelle to joke about the teenager getting

800
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: Oh you didn't like that bit hilarious?

801
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: First off, you.

802
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: Getting on But I didn't agree with you. But you

803
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: did say comedians are allowed to do certain I said,

804
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: I could find Schultz's joke not funny, but if it's

805
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: an attempt at humor, I think, and his intention isn't

806
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: that which is crazy. I'm not you content. No, I

807
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: am defending your point that you are a hypocrite because

808
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: I can't make a joke. But so that that's another thing.

809
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: I absolutely believe that jokes can be insensitive.

810
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: I believe they can offend people.

811
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: And I don't have to like you for your jokes

812
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: I say, I say that comedians, and where the audience

813
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: currently lends themselves is to excuse comedians. I don't excuse

814
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: comedians like to me, I thought it was disgusting that

815
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: the narrative about black women being abusers or difficult to

816
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: deal with.

817
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: That's a narrative. I don't want to continue to spew

818
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: out there.

819
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: I don't. That's that is women. That is not all

820
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: see what I mean?

821
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, hold on, y, but he has slash comedian

822
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: in his in his bio now, so he's allowed.

823
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: To Even when Ak was saying the baby was just

824
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: trying to be funny, you said, but he doesn't have

825
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: that slash comedian so it's not okay. So but that

826
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: has that I don't excuse it. I think it was

827
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 3: outside of being distasteful, just like just a lazy, bad

828
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: fucking joke. It was a bad joke. It was a

829
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: bad joke from a comedians fan point. And he's a

830
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: great comedian.

831
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: I think what Andrew has been able to do is phenomenal.

832
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: But again again, I mean, but all going to be

833
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: fucking close and bits like you said an offul No,

834
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: I hold you.

835
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: Our audience was on our ass because Vinnie was on

836
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: the jumbo tron at the Trump at the Republican rally

837
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: at the Garden and and here go our audience. See

838
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: what happens when you let the whites on your pod.

839
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: They just be embarrassing us.

840
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: We had just had Vinnie on too, and we did

841
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: his wod as well, same joke you we want to

842
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: hear the same day that he was on to Jart.

843
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: Here's my saying, I like Vinnie, maybe I wasn't as

844
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: shocked as the rest of the world that an Italian

845
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 3: man from Staten Island. Maybe maybe I was like, whoa

846
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: what an Italian guy from Staten Island likes Trump?

847
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: Before we get back into r Kelly just leaning right

848
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: here where we are also blending politics and coming out

849
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: of an election, did you hold any artists or remove

850
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: support from any artists that were against Kamala or that

851
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: were Trump supporters? Like, how do you align with where

852
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: our hip hop artists were placed in terms of the

853
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: politics in this last election.

854
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: That's another one that's very tricky for me because I

855
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 3: think there's so many people within the podcast community music

856
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: industry that are quiet Trump supporters. I think a lot

857
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: of our favorites quietly voted for Trump. So where do

858
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: I draw the line again.

859
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: That twelve hundred dollars did not help them that much?

860
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: That wasn't that was.

861
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: Like, I don't understand that and the quiet Trump supporters that.

862
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: I think, No, not just the twelve hundred. I think

863
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: because podcasting has become fiscally amazing for some of us.

864
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people that may have gotten

865
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: a lot of money in podcasting, we're voting for their

866
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: interests that were not race related, so you know they

867
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: were doing it for their tax they're Republican.

868
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a problematic take about that. You podcasters want

869
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: to save on tax deductions and get your refund and

870
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: not pay as much into Texas. Guess what you're gonna

871
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: be paying for it in eighteen years because you I

872
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: can't get that bitch an abortion that you want to abort, Okay,

873
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: you can't do.

874
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 3: It, like make it make sense.

875
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: So you'd rather pay for.

876
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: A baby for eighteen years than pay the taxes you owe? Like,

877
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: I think that that's my issue with these fiscally uh

878
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: conservative viewers when you literally are also voting for the

879
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: right to not to not be able to choose with

880
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: what someone does with their body, especially when y'all motherfuckers

881
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: don't even.

882
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: Like using kando. To me, it's it's night and fucking day.

883
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Do I think the Republicans probably have a better tax

884
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Speaker 3: code for the tax bracket I'm in, of course, but

885
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: that the difference in the money I would save for

886
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: the rights of women don't really equal up to me.

887
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm not really on the side of people.

888
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: Well what about your business?

889
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not gonna lie. That was my big state.

890
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: I didn't like Kamala, but more was on the line,

891
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: So here I am I Democrats. You got me. I drew.

892
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: I drew my line of hypocrisy by saying this is

893
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: why he shouldn't have made We didn't want him to

894
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: perform at the super Bowl.

895
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: In terms of Wayne, Wayne being.

896
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: A Trump supporter because he got part in, I was like,

897
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't want no Trump supporter performing at the super Bowl.

898
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: Why y'all so.

899
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: Anyway, then then back to being let's all us back

900
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: to being a hybracrut. I give Wayne so much grace

901
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: because I think Wayne is so world.

902
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: I don't like Grace. I don't know why he keep.

903
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: Bringing her up. She gets ranked at her door, she

904
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: gets rant.

905
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: I just said, I don't want Wayne to even perform

906
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: at the super Bowl. Can't see a Trump supporter.

907
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: I don't think Wayne. I don't think Wayne has any

908
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: idea what is going on in the world ever. If

909
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: that's why I don't I add context to things. No,

910
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm not outraged at Wayne because I don't think. I

911
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: think every now and then Wayne's team comes to him

912
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: and gives him like an update on the world. I

913
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: don't think. I think even with the whole Kendrick Bake diss,

914
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: I don't even think Wayne hurt the bar. I think

915
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 3: someone game in the studio was like, yo, Kendrick said

916
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: your name. I don't think Wayne pays attention to anything. Well,

917
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: it's not about his family or his music or sports.

918
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: Only that makes him a sports center. Probably makes him

919
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: a bad person by any means. But I don't get

920
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: outraged as someone that's not paying attention to politics saying

921
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: some stupid shit about posing.

922
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: In a MAGA hat next to Trump.

923
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: Okay, did he do that?

924
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: He posted next to BA I was.

925
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: Like, I've never even seen on those dress before.

926
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: So if we get back to R Kelly, have a

927
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: question for Rory then so and this is again just

928
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: trying to get through the selective ignorance or not so

929
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: r Kelly. So, obviously you talk about music a lot.

930
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 4: In a past podcast, you talked about R Kelly, or

931
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 4: you were in a discussion about talking about R Kelly

932
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 4: being the king of R and B. Would you still

933
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: have that conversation today moving forward or would you try

934
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: to omit him from the conversation because of what he's done.

935
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: He should he should be omitted from any future conversations.

936
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: But at the same time, R Kelly is the king

937
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: of R and V.

938
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Dang, not Jack Queeze.

939
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: Listen, he's up there though not Usher, Oh wait, Usher Brown.

940
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: Chris not Chris Brown.

941
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: Are you guys familiar with R Kelly's catalog? He is

942
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: the king of R and B. It's not and it's

943
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: not close.

944
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: But you don't have so are we familiar with his music?

945
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: But yet you now don't have it in your phone,

946
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: You don't.

947
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: Listen to it. I don't, although you know how great

948
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: it is.

949
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now I have the perspective that he's singing

950
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: about a little girl and I can't get that out

951
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: of my head. Boom, I have daughters.

952
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 6: Boom, I ain't.

953
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: Gonna hold you. Summer Walker.

954
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: B's singing about a whole bunch of niggas I would

955
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: never date.

956
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: It doesn't take me away. But at least okay, okay,

957
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: that's different. I'm not okay. So that's like, all right.

958
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: If R Kelly was only talking about that specific teenager,

959
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: she wasn't my type. But this teenager is. Yeah, so

960
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: but does the context change his ranking?

961
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: Then if this podcast was now a music podcast and

962
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: we were talking about R and B, we thought, mar Kelly,

963
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: would you say, now that I know he's thinking about women,

964
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: I knock him down Pegs you know, sorry?

965
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy?

966
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 7: Though?

967
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: That was that's why people feel about Frank Ocean. Once

968
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: they knew he was really singing about men, people felt

969
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean they did, they felt his music differently.

970
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: I just didn't whatsoever, because I don't think he was

971
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: talking about young boys. I think he was just talking

972
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: a man.

973
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: But I think that that's my thing.

974
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: I love I love Forst.

975
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: Gump.

976
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: I sing that ship in my car at the top

977
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: of my lungs. Even the gay.

978
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 6: Parts like but when you're singing it from perspective that is.

979
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: And also I assume that Frank is talking about a

980
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: man of age.

981
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess it's weird to me because when

982
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: how I consume music, and I guess why I can separate.

983
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: Young Forest Gump. It's how I receive the music.

984
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: How it relates to my life, how I enjoy listening

985
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: to it, to where when I listen to an artist

986
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: singing or rapping, I don't think about their life or

987
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: who they're really talking about, unless you know they're yelling

988
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: out names or actual instances.

989
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: To me, it's how I want to enjoy it.

990
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: I just you, I can't get the predatorial behavior out

991
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: of my head when I hear it argy, so it

992
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: makes it it makes it unenjoyable for me to look Okay,

993
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: So whatever that was the name of Love is probably

994
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: one of the greatest RMB songs. He's never about, But

995
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: when his voice starts on that fucking record with that

996
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: iconic intro, I think this is nasty. I can't get

997
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: out of my head that he's a creditor um.

998
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm a millennial, So I go

999
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: to pretty Ricky's ag nothing but a number.

1000
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: It ain't nothing but no man. But I'm a millennial.

1001
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: What do you want from me? Okay, so we're gonna

1002
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: get into the now.

1003
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: What except the prison system?

1004
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: Did?

1005
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: No one else did. I'm not gonna lie who's been canceled?

1006
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: Name one person he's doing fun, he's not.

1007
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 6: I think it was an unsuccessful it.

1008
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: Was an unsuccessful cast a cheesecake factory.

1009
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Okay. But see this is something we don't bring up

1010
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: when it comes to certain cancelizations. That's the cancelization. I

1011
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: can't speak sometimes. And first of all, you get the

1012
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 3: early shift that I didn't. I don't pot at ten am,

1013
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna. I figured we were shying. We were

1014
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: shocked when we were late, utterly shocked. When what's you

1015
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: shot up fifteen minutes late? When well that's because that

1016
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: was Mars fault. But Jason sading that calendar invite. I

1017
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: was like, what they think I am on Sunday.

1018
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: I figured we'd get to him.

1019
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: First of all, that starts at ten when you're Catholic,

1020
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: and then if it's done by ten forty.

1021
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Five perfect, that's why you were your all time?

1022
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: Where we're going? All right, Yeah, no one has been canceled,

1023
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 3: and people forget that this may have happened the baby

1024
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: with or without his parking lot comments like I think

1025
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: the shift was happening with the baby already at that time.

1026
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: This just added more fuel to the fire, Like, Okay,

1027
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: we don't have to have a whole Drake Kendrick conversation,

1028
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 3: but with Drake's quote unquote recent fall off, I think

1029
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: the shift was happening already. WHI or without Kendrick it was.

1030
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: I thought his last three projects felt uninspired. I felt

1031
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: like things were starting this time because it's all done.

1032
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: But this is good shaking the table he's saying. It's like,

1033
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: so it's canceled it up. They already it's happening already. Yeah,

1034
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: Like even with the fifty in joy Rule situation, yes,

1035
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: joh was at the height of all heights, which happened,

1036
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: but you also have to add in the context of

1037
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: the storm that was shifting where Ja's music was starting

1038
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: to progress a bit. There's a court case behind the

1039
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: scenes going on. Yeah, you could not deny the absolute

1040
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: monster that fifty was his story the shooting. Dre m like,

1041
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: there's so many more factors than to oh, that person

1042
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: was just canceled. Other things happened too the Baby at

1043
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: that time. That wasn't twenty nineteen.

1044
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy because we're talking about three different artists though,

1045
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: So we're talking about the cancelization. You got me saying

1046
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: the word of the Baby from the public. We have

1047
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: the hip hop fan base literally removing their support from

1048
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: Joh Rule, who was hip hop yeah still because of

1049
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: fifty cent. And then you're saying now that we would

1050
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: have we would have actually organically regressed from our love

1051
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: and support of Drake without the Kendricks.

1052
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: I never stopped listening to Job because of fifty Jos

1053
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: started to put out music that was not as good

1054
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: as Pain Is Love and Rule three thirty six, like

1055
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: things were starting to ship. When people get to a

1056
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: certain peak, sometimes the only place to go is to decline.

1057
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: I know. That's why cartis to like heared to drop

1058
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: this next.

1059
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: Album, which I understand why she is. How do I

1060
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: top this? This?

1061
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: And she's been doing for the last what eight years

1062
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: with only the one album and.

1063
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: Features, And that's what's so fucked up with this business.

1064
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Once you get to that height of success, there's literally

1065
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: only one other option, and it is to decline you

1066
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: can't match rule three thirty six to pain is love

1067
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: to literally owning MTV one oh six, Yeah, for like

1068
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: four years straight. Literally think the tides are gonna ship.

1069
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: With the shanty right by inside, Yes.

1070
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: Dayl always on time? How do we top that?

1071
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: How the valid? So then I will.

1072
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: Say your take is a new art is doing twenty

1073
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: one questions like, oh, people get sick of success. It's

1074
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: it's like a weird human food, not even not even

1075
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: on some hater shit. I think with a familiarity, Jay

1076
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 3: Electronics says of familiarity just brings conceptions like the more

1077
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: you see someone, even if you like them, you start

1078
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: to just it gets annoying. You're just they're always there.

1079
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: I need something new. But when it comes to entertainment.

1080
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: It just misery loves company and the fact that majority

1081
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: of people are mediocre and so it actually is projection

1082
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: on why they don't like to see someone successful or

1083
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: someone keep winning.

1084
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: And I think that that's kind of what we saw

1085
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: with him.

1086
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: I think so all right, I was very critical for

1087
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: all the dogs. I love Drake and I love his success.

1088
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think he's super important. I

1089
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: didn't like for all the dogs because it was just

1090
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 3: more of the fucking same. Yeah, I've heard this song

1091
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: thirty times. It's just too familiar. I need something new,

1092
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: I need something a bit more refreshing. I didn't hate

1093
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: it because he was successful. I think that still broke

1094
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: every fucking streaming rum. It was just the music was

1095
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: too familiar. I've heard this Drake song one thousand times.

1096
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: But see, like you're all right, oh my god, another

1097
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: twenty two year old IG model broke your heart. I

1098
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: didn't see that coming.

1099
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: But see, I think though that that's where we don't

1100
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: sit here and separate ourselves as the consumers.

1101
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: You loved Drake back in.

1102
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine to twenty fifteen because you were younger, then.

1103
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you resonated. It's not just a certain moment in

1104
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: my life. And that's the thing.

1105
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: So you're not going to resonate because you now got

1106
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: a family and a baby at home. You're not going

1107
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: to resonate to the fact that he's still out here

1108
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: loving on a twenty two year old IG model.

1109
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and no, because even when you get older

1110
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: and have a family whatever, you still like to have fun.

1111
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: Like not everything has to be exactly relatable, like if

1112
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: the song is good and it's about ig bitsches, even

1113
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 3: though I don't live that life whatsoever or could relate

1114
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 3: to it. If it's a groove, then I'm here for.

1115
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: It, oh sob, but not for our Even if it's

1116
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: a groove, you're not here for Kelly because of the

1117
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: context of the If.

1118
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: The groove because little girls, then if the groove is

1119
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: not a consenting adult, then no, I think I'm cool.

1120
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: So I agreed on your take about this first lawsuit

1121
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: that Drake has to UMG and Spotify. However, his second

1122
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: lawsuit I'm completely against and it's going back to the lyrics.

1123
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: It's going back to the conversation around him now suing

1124
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: for essentially defamation of character because of the pedophile word

1125
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: that was used. Although in his Family Matters record he

1126
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: alluded to Kendrick being a family I mean, a wife

1127
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: beater and that his baby might not.

1128
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: Even be his.

1129
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 6: Is his man he said his managers, Yeah, he said

1130
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 6: it was.

1131
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: It's just a really odd But you agree with the

1132
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: first lawsuit not the second one as well.

1133
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: I want to do you think that that's going to

1134
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 2: ruin it all the way.

1135
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: We view or could I think it has already. Yeah,

1136
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: the second one. As a hip hop fan, of course

1137
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: I didn't like it. But I can also look at

1138
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: it from another perspective of if somebody called me a pedophile,

1139
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't really care about hip hop rules like I love.

1140
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: Thank you, like y'all take the street, cred and bulls.

1141
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: If I'm not a pedophile, yes, I'm gonna go with

1142
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: the links to let you know that I am not

1143
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: a pedophile. No, I agree the same way. We go

1144
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 3: back to Tory Lanez moll and I always said, if

1145
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: I did not shoot Megdae Stallion, I'm getting on the stand.

1146
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I did not shoot Mega Stallion right,

1147
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: There's no way I'm not getting on that stand. I

1148
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: will tell you everything that happened that day.

1149
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

1150
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: I think when I sit here and see all of

1151
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: the tweets and the outrage to this lawsuit around the

1152
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: fact that this is now ruining rat Beef and hip hop,

1153
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: it does completely remove the actual human element of.

1154
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 2: What those lyrics mean.

1155
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: And I think that we're seeing the comparison be drawn

1156
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: to the Michael Jacksons and even what you said about

1157
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: R Kelly. There's nothing redeemable. You don't get grace for

1158
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: being a pedophile. There's literally nothing you can come back

1159
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: from at all once that is said about you. And again,

1160
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: no men can come back from being wife beaters. We

1161
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: see it all the time.

1162
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: I am by DNA is rooted in all of hip hop.

1163
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: It's what I've consumed my entire life. I believe that

1164
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: there are hip hop rules and there's just other shit.

1165
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: But when this battle happened, Paul and I did an

1166
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: interview with the Washington Post and I said, I think

1167
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: after the dust settles on this entire thing, we're gonna

1168
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: have to do some reevaluating on what the fuck is

1169
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: going on, because this is not accusations of Yo, I

1170
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: fucked your baby mother. I'm more gangster than you. I

1171
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: You're not who you say you are. This is you

1172
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: beat the fuck out of your wife and you are

1173
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 3: a pedophile. Yeah. Sorry if I'm not hip hop enough

1174
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: to be like Yo, awesome.

1175
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: But rap has always been rooted in allegation, even in

1176
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 5: even in discourse.

1177
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: I think we need to eat it in your baby seat.

1178
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 5: Uh Nas and Jay, we didn't have social media for that,

1179
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: thankfully and great, but.

1180
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: He's acknowledging the baby, fuck your baby's mama. Yeah, and

1181
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: also even Wove and his mom came out and was like, yeah,

1182
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: I was wilding I should like that's one, it's not true,

1183
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 3: like I didn't do that, and that's yeah. I probably

1184
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 3: acted on emotion and went a little crazy because NAS

1185
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: kept calling me homophobic slurps, which is another thing that

1186
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: we never Yeah, like, that's that's why I tried so

1187
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: hard these days to stay out of cancel ship, because

1188
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: it's like, where do we draw the line? Where do we?

1189
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean apparently we dried.

1190
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: Don't don't it's never drawn. The line. The only line

1191
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: that was ever drawn its irresponsibility.

1192
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: The response she performed at the first Trump inauguration shaven back.

1193
00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: Oh wait, she.

1194
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: Didn't even form.

1195
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: Did she accepted it and didn't perform? I think she did,

1196
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: now look at it. We did her dirty said it

1197
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: was accepted. Grace, come back in here.

1198
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: If their responsibility in entertainment, should we have that expectation.

1199
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: I think that's why I wanted this conversation.

1200
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: Right, we have people putting out art, which is what

1201
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: lyrics is, which is what music is. We also, you know,

1202
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: and what was it called the I forgot the actual law.

1203
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: But the fact that last year they passed the law

1204
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: where lyrics can't be used protect black art km of lliles.

1205
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: So the fact that that bill was passed and this

1206
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: is art, I think that's the.

1207
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: That's the line that can't be drawn.

1208
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: How do you separate the art from the actual human

1209
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: and how it's affecting them? And that's where I think

1210
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: when you can't look past the lyrics based on what

1211
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: someone did in real life.

1212
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: But then we're also sitting here wanted.

1213
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: To protect our hip hop artists from their lyrics being

1214
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: used against them in court because we're leaning into the

1215
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: fact that it's just art. Essentially, we can lean into

1216
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: the fact that me calling Draco pedophile is just to art,

1217
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: you know So I think that's why there's no way

1218
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: to draw a line.

1219
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: But what's more hypocritical with hip hop and battles. The

1220
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: number one thing everyone always says is you have to

1221
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: tell the truth about that person, which.

1222
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: Is the rule.

1223
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an exaggerated version of that's like that.

1224
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of people are saying, like, oh,

1225
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: Hove actually did win the battle against NAS, because Takeover

1226
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: was all facts and all NAS did was like make

1227
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: gay jokes, gotcha, but then also Hove lied as well.

1228
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: Like every hip hop battle, they're lying for the most

1229
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: part in there.

1230
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah everything, I mean, But I think that's that's.

1231
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: Where we we we end, even on the rap beef thing.

1232
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: In terms of Beef's battles Republicans versus Democrats, there's everyone

1233
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: needs a winner and a loser, and I think that

1234
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: like Rory leaned into the same way.

1235
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: I'm a Duke fan.

1236
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: Niggas hate seeing Duke wing because that's what they do

1237
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: when you have air. Is like the Lakers that constantly

1238
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: won and even Golden State for a while, niggas was

1239
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: ready for them to start losing because they people do

1240
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: have a way to where they're like, all right, I'm

1241
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: sick of this motherfucker winning everything.

1242
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that the.

1243
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 6: Jordan Lebron you know, greatest of all time conversation.

1244
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: But it's it's such a weird perspective to have, Like

1245
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: I want to see Pat mahomes past Brady, and I

1246
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: like Tom Brady a lot, but you guys don't want

1247
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: to like witness.

1248
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: Greatness mahons Brady Brady, that's Bray too.

1249
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: You hear a different time they cancel each other out,

1250
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: so I just start talking about it. I just don't

1251
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: understand why people don't want to like witness greatness, Like

1252
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: we have these arguments between Bron Jordan Kobe, Like we

1253
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 3: can't have those arguments unless we witness the greatness. You

1254
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 3: don't want to see people be great.

1255
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: I think that most people will never be great. So again,

1256
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: I think because of their own mediocrity, they have the

1257
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: issue with someone excelling or being successful or never.

1258
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: That's the point of entertainment for the most part, is

1259
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: watching something you can't do.

1260
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: And I think though, that's where that that's where the

1261
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: dynamic has shifted.

1262
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: Like I we played high school football.

1263
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,959
Speaker 1: The streams, there's celebrities now doing nothing that you don't

1264
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: have to be talented now to be great or to

1265
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: be successful, which I think is now where.

1266
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 3: I agree with you to some extent. Like you can

1267
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: see the difference because shit, even when we started this

1268
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: whole podcasting thing, everyone trot and it's like it's way

1269
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: different than sitting down. It is just because you bought

1270
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: a microphone does not mean you're a good podcast. Now

1271
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: we look at the difference with streamers. Look at Kai, Yeah,

1272
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: he is fucking talent. That's the talent, Like, that's a

1273
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: real talent. Then there's also other streamers that just sit

1274
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: in the basement and you know, just talk dude.

1275
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: Dennis ain't gotta do nothing.

1276
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: So that's why I can't. That's why I can ever

1277
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: shit on the streamers because I've seen the difference of

1278
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: talented ones and ones that aren't talented. And Kai, I

1279
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: could never say, is not a talented human being at

1280
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: what he does, like.

1281
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: His social battery is like a normal I think he's

1282
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: somewhere on the spectrum because that doesn't make sense, no problem,

1283
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to have that much of a social battery.

1284
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: And I say that with the best way possible. I

1285
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: think a lot of us that are in front of

1286
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: MIC's are also on the spectrum.

1287
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: All right, so now what where are we at?

1288
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: Do you just align with the fact that a we

1289
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: don't have lines drawn and that it's blurred, and that

1290
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: we're all hypocrites in terms of art versus the artist,

1291
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: and that's everybody.

1292
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm kind of okay with that, like, okay,

1293
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: it's it's entertainment. So yeah, as we should draw the

1294
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: line at things that are actually harming people.

1295
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: You know what, So I can't wait in twenty twenty five,

1296
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: y'all when we are paying playing past the Auks, or

1297
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: when it is the cookout and step in the Name

1298
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: of Love comes on, Don't y'all look at me. Don't

1299
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: y'all look at me, because I'm a play it Okay

1300
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: and Toy and you're gonna keep playing Tory.

1301
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure I keep playing Toy.

1302
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: I was never a Tory fan even before.

1303
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I love that, so you did agree with me.

1304
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: His discography just isn't.

1305
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: In no way am I saying like the Chicks tapes

1306
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: were bad, But the way my friends were geeked over

1307
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: those tapes, I never got into them. The way they

1308
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: all did it was cool, I guess. And then a

1309
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: lot of his albums just felt like he's a chameleon.

1310
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: He's so good at just doing what everyone else is doing.

1311
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 3: Come on, click appropriator like he can he can rap

1312
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: just like Drake when you want. He's talented in that regard.

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Speaker 3: He can do anything, but it all sounds like someone

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Speaker 3: else's art. M It was like I forgot what game

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Speaker 3: album it was. Where all the features he rapped just

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Speaker 3: like the feature that takes a talent, but like that,

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Speaker 3: you can't make your career out of that. Your career

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Speaker 3: was Toy's career to me was copying, copying a sound

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Speaker 3: that someone else was doing and in some cases doing

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Speaker 3: it better than them. But he was just copying people's

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Speaker 3: people sounds. He was graded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of y'all I hear copy and

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Speaker 1: podcasts is super wee gon try you out. Anyways, y'all know,

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Speaker 1: I like y'all to join in on the conversation and

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Speaker 1: let us know how much you disagree with us and

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Speaker 1: the comments below.

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Speaker 2: Whether you sided with Rory, sided.

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Speaker 1: With me, or was like, what the fuck we're both

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01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: of these motherfuckers talking about I do want to ask

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: y'all after our conversation, has your mind changed, is what

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: an artist does away from their art something you can't ignore?

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: Or do you love your favorites and they can do

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Speaker 2: no wrong.

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Speaker 1: I want you to share your answers and the comments

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01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: over on our social media page, and if you are

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Speaker 1: on our Patreon page, make sure you subscribe and hop

1337
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: in our discord channel to continue the conversation. Rory, where

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Speaker 1: can they listen to more of your hot takes, warm takes, cold.

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Speaker 3: Takes and wherever you get your podcasts available everywhere. This

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Speaker 3: is Rory on Instagram and Twitter. I'm really available. I

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Speaker 3: have another question that's going to get us talking for

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Speaker 3: like another hour though.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, you guys asking real quick, real quick.

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Speaker 3: With everything we're talking about with hip hop and being

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: hypocritical with the new generation, I feel like a lot

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01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: of rappers were for the most part, lying about their

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01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: street activities, usually their man's there was Usually they were

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Speaker 3: the rapper and they just told the story better than

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Speaker 3: anyone else. Yeah, that's not the case these days. These

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Speaker 3: the rapp raise is the one doing everything. How do

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Speaker 3: we view that type of content like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not gonna lie, I'll be on YouTube Autum

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01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Gangs, Juggie Ace hold On.

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Speaker 2: I was here for I told you.

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01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: I didn't understand all the hype and buzz around what

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Speaker 1: academics was doing, not even because at the time I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was watching sports. Then now I don't even watch

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Speaker 1: sports anymore. I go to YouTube and watch the gang

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Speaker 1: fights and shit like.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I'd be lying if I said I don't do

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Speaker 3: the same.

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Speaker 1: The why the why is cell case. I was tuned

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Speaker 1: in and now it's active. The Dirk shit happened, oh

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: almost daily. They picking out people from Chicago. I didn't

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Speaker 1: into it, but you know what, to me, it's a

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Speaker 1: real hood version of like Housewives, just with rappers.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy housewives. People got drinks thrown on their faces

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Speaker 3: and maybe strapped on their face. People are dying, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, but.

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Speaker 2: People are losing like decades of their lives.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of charges and cases where housewives end

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Speaker 1: up in jail.

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing, a little different than like the

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Speaker 3: last version.

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Speaker 2: It's the hood version. So yeah, a couple of lives

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Speaker 2: of loss.

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Speaker 3: And I guess my real issue is not necessarily with

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Speaker 3: that type of music whatsoever or the people doing it,

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Speaker 3: because I think that's a way deeper conversation of the

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Speaker 3: situation they were put in, and we could go down

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Speaker 3: a whole rattle of that. It's really why I'm happy

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Speaker 3: Drake is suing the labels, even if it has nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with it.

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Speaker 6: Too.

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Speaker 3: They're the ones projecting this entire stuff and making the

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Speaker 3: real money off of these young kids that were put

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Speaker 3: in really really shitty situations and are now trying to

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Speaker 3: make means by rapping about it. Yeah, they're still very

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Speaker 3: much all the way in it. So it's nuts. And

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Speaker 3: then the only people that are really profiting and that

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Speaker 3: aren't going to go away for football numbers or dive

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: is the labels, and they're also taking out life insurance

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: on every artist that they signed. So to me, this

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: is where we can't be hypocritical, like we have to

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01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: hold the label's feet the fire in some regard. No, no, no,

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: it's not these young kids pop. They're in shitty situations,

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Speaker 3: and that is a way deeper rooted conversation of why

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Speaker 3: those kids are in that situation.

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Speaker 1: You went really deep with it because I think at

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Speaker 1: the same time, we interviewed the city girls early on

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01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: and they were not their wraps, and even our audience

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01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: was upset that a lot of the female rappers right

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Speaker 1: now rapping about the whole shit, escort, shit, the fucking

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Speaker 1: for this, and that that's not really their life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so I mean, I think that's where we go

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Speaker 1: down back to the rabbit hole and circling all the

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Speaker 1: way back to our kelly. Once you know what it's

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Speaker 1: really about. I think you could cool sit there and

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Speaker 1: judge however you so fit. To me, I'm not listening

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Speaker 1: to the music in a w way where I'm attaching

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Speaker 1: it to their real life.

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Speaker 2: I could care less about their real lives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friends, it's just with some of the content,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sound like the old, boring like father in

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Speaker 3: the room. When I was growing up, Yes, rappers were

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Speaker 3: talking about horrible shit, violence, selling drugs all that. I

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Speaker 3: tried to sell drugs for like two days and realized

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Speaker 3: very fucking quickly that I was not.

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Speaker 1: Built here for selling drugs. It was easy, it was,

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Speaker 1: It was so easy. When we got out of here,

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Speaker 1: Oh what happened? Why did you stop selling drugs?

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Speaker 3: Because I was ninety pounds? But what kind of drugs

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Speaker 3: we start? We can coke for two days? Didn't do

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Speaker 3: very well?

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, I shared my story. Mine was crazy.

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: I was selling molly on South Beach and uh, the

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Speaker 1: guy I split it with like tried to body me

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Speaker 1: to take my profit, and I was like, no, nigga.

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Speaker 2: I went out to the clubs and sold this shit.

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Speaker 2: This mine. You take your half and I take my hat.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that my neighbor was into some shit,

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Speaker 1: and the cops came knocking on my door.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were coming for the drugs, but they weren't.

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Speaker 2: So I saw the cops.

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Speaker 3: I mean, were you molly? No, no, paranoid, paranoid.

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Speaker 2: I was a drug dealer. So I ran to the

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Speaker 2: bathroom to flush him.

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01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: Wave past.

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Speaker 4: This is way past entry level molly flushed anyway, he's

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01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 4: going right to the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: What's a flush him? And the way he came in.

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Speaker 1: He didn't ask me about my drugs or anything. He

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: just asked about the neighbor. When I closed the door,

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Speaker 1: I ran back and tried to save the molly out.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, some of them didn't mount. They were in capsules,

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: So I started scooping them pictures.

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Speaker 3: So there's a group of people in Florida right now

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Speaker 3: that were served toilet molly from.

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Speaker 8: If you suffer from homonizes, honestly, that compensation that may

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 8: have been what happened to the molly uha pipeline, Like

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Speaker 8: you used to let me go try some bath salts.

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Speaker 3: So it all epidemic?

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01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if that was me?

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: Bad with that said, I quickly quickly found out, as

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: most people did, if they were built for the street,

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01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: and if they weren't. I was not so found that

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: out right away. Didn't ruin my life. These kids now

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: with the drug rap and the escort rap. Yeah, it's

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 3: very easy to be a drug addict. It's tough to

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Speaker 3: be a drug dealer.

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01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: If I was young and impressionable and people are rapping

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: specifically about being a fiend in an addict, I think

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: it's pretty easy to get hooked on opioids.

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: And they talked about that, the pipeline from rappers going

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: to drug sellers.

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Speaker 3: To and that's where I'm crazy. I always found that

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01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: argument of like hip hop is ruining the youth, argument

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01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: back in the days as dumb like No, a lot

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Speaker 3: of it's just whit kids that just enjoy hearing that

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: type of shit. No one is really ruining their life

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: based off but.

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: You believe it now, Yes, I believe believe it now.

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: So hip hop stay to the camera as a white man.

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: Hip hop is ruining.

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: It's real, It's ruined the white community.

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: You know what.

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: But gonn Es shorts shit. I think a lot of them,

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01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: A lot of these girls brace back. I think a

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: lot of these girls, these young girls are really good

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: people with fragile hearts, and I don't think they're built

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: for this.

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: That's why we remove the whard decisions Decisions Lady, make

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Speaker 1: sure y'all check that out every.

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Speaker 2: Every Monday and Wednesday.

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 1: And you know what, We're out of here and you

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01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: can't hate it or you can love it. Are you

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: choosing to be selectively ignorant? Are you choosing to be educated?

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Speaker 3: Y'all?

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Speaker 1: See you next week, Selective Ignorance. Make sure you join

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