1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh, welcome to the program. It's our one 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick Show. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Heisman candidate Kenny Pickett, the pit quarterback, is going to 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: join us coming up next hour. Phone calls, emails, tweets, 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: all the above you can do. So. We say good 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: morning to peaconk or streaming partner and also are radio 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: affiliates around the country, Fox Sports Radio, iHeart Radio. Come 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: on in, stay a while. The gang's all here, Yes, 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: including mclovin, who two weeks from Friday that will be 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: his final show. Oh? Is it two weeks from Thursday? McLevin. Oh, 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: that's so. The Christmas Eve is Friday. You should work Friday. 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be met Friday? Is I might? If 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: that's as, it's gonna be me Friday. It'll be just here, 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: no meat Friday. We'll have a poll question. Mc leven 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: will provide the honors there. We have a stat of 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: the day played the day. All of that forthcoming, and 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: the I Team investigation continues into the missing key that 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: opens Carson Palmer's Heisman Trophy case. The IT Team has 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: been working on this all night long night. I don't 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: know the results of this. PAULI said that we had 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: a breakthrough. Now I don't know what that means. Would 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: you like to illuminate the audience on the key to 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: open the Carson Palmer Heisman Trophy. The IT team has 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: put this story to bed. Do you want to know 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the results now? Do you want to do it later? 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: We just get to it. I would like to know 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Okay, I'll let you know what 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: we have. I want to double confirm during the next 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: break the trophy and the case, or at least the 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: case that's supposed to contain the trophy did make it 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame down in Atlanta, did it? Okay? 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: The key was never found. That's when I thought, never found. 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: The actual quote from the guy who runs the college 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame was, we are locked out. So 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I reached out to your guys, Ak Fritzie. Not much 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: help there. Yeah, and that's where our story ends. As 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: far the last name, they had a meeting yesterday and 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: they wanted to issue a statement to us, and they 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: gave us like the blow by blow of how they 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: received the thing. This was the impromptu meeting they were 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: having yesterday, absolutely, and we were in We were on 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the agenda hot items. Um they said, uh in the meeting. 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: In the meeting, the big Boss I guess was hearing 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: this report saying, so they sent us a Heisman trophy 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: box with the key tape to the outside. He goes, 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: he's already joking. And that was said by the big 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Boss of the Hall of Fame. All right, fair enough, 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and um, that's what we tell the Big Buss of 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. That's how you sent it to us. 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: Pal Well, no, Carson Palmer sent it that way USC 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: gradh yes, not not the college Football Hall of Fame. Wait, 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: that's all we knowed Have they opened it up yet? 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Do you want to know? Now? Yes, I can't tell you. 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Gotta take you with the next segment. Okay, we took 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: bets on it in the morning meeting. Yeah. Yeah, I 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: think that they lost the key or couldn't find the key, 58 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: and but they found a way to open it up. 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm betting. But we'll have that for you, 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: I guess coming up again about fifteen minutes from now, 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Is that right? I mean, tell me when I'm supposed 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: to tell the audience they can find out Paul twelve minutes, 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: twelve minutes. I team read the tight ship. Dan. It's them, 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: not me. I'm just the mouthpiece. Eight seven seven three 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: d P show email address DPA, dan Patrick dot com 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Twitter handle a DPS show Holiday shopping Still have time 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: go to dan Patrick dot com. A lot of great 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: things there, including a special feature we have where you 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: can get a handwritten note in your order in time 70 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: for the holidays. Perfect way for you to send a gift. Um, 71 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: let's see, we got a couple of things. Lesh was 72 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: lost as starting quarterback and the starting quarterbacks brother. The 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Buckeyes have grabbed a defensive coordinator out of the Big twelve. 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Lakers handled the Celtics, but still there's some controversy going 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: on with the Lakers and maybe the job security of 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel for some reason. Steph Curry sixteen threes away 77 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: from breaking Ray Allen's all time record. Now, I don't 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: know if he could do it tonight against Portland. I 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know if he is going to try to do 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: it tonight against Portland. But he's redefined the game long 81 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: distance shooting. Previous generations you wanted to be like Mike, 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: or you wanted to crossover guys like Iverson. But a 83 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: whole generation of basketball players thinks about the game differently 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: because it's Steph Curry. And you could make a case, 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: as I've tried to for years, that he has been 86 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: the most impactful player in a long long time in 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: the way he plays that others who didn't think that 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: they play like that can identify with because if you watch, 89 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: could be grade school, could be junior high, could be 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: high school. They're trying to play like Steph Curry. Even 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: the guys who are athletic and jump and dunk, they 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: still want to be like Steph Curry. It's cooler to 93 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: be like Steph Curry than it is to try to 94 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: be like Mike. Nobody's going to be like Mike, and 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: probably nobody's gonna be like Steph Curry. But you feel 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: like you have a chance to be like Steph Curry 97 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: and maybe play at the high school level, college level, 98 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: or maybe even in the NBA. Once Steph Curry breaks 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: the record, we'll see how long he holds onto it. 100 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Because James Harden is not too far behind his fourth 101 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: on the all time list, and the game has changed 102 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: some of the youngsters who watch Curry might be going 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: into high school, maybe going into junior high and one 104 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: day they could give the King a run for his money. 105 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: But right now, Steph Curry is worth celebrating as the 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: greatest shooter of all time, the most prolific three point 107 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: shooter in NBA history. He's got the game against Portland 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: coming up tonight. Portland has its own drama with what's 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: going on with Damian Lillard the front office there. Does 110 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Dame want Ben Simmons National TV game? Do you want 111 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: to give Dame Lillard a two year contract extension worth 112 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and seven million dollars, which is what he's 113 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna want, that'll take him into his mid thirties. And 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: you've got to start looking at this and you have 115 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: to take your fandom away. This is the real hard part. 116 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: When you're in the front office, you're a coach, you're 117 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: a GM. It's like the Cardinals had to look at 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Albert Poohole's and say, we got his best ten years here. Now, 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: what's smart for the organization is to let him go. 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: Do you trade Dame Lillard? Has he taken you as 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: far as you can go? Now? And I'm not putting 122 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: all the blame on Dame because there's only so much 123 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: that he can do. One person can do your tenth 124 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: in the West right now? Where are you going? Are 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: you any better this year than you were last year? 126 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: Are you going to be any better next year? New coach? 127 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: And Chauncey billups. CJ McCollum is out for a while, 128 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: and what do you have? And I think that's where 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: you have to have an honest meeting and honest opinions 130 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and say are we better if we trade him? You 131 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be the GM the front office person 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: to trade him. You don't. But then you also have 133 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: to be honest with where are you going? And I 134 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: think you have to have that kind of come to 135 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: Jesus meeting where you go? I think we got to 136 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: entertain the possibility of trading him. You want to bring 137 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: in Ben Simmons? Okay, who are you giving up? CJ 138 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: McCollums out for a while, and I thought that that 139 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: might be the guy who would be included if they 140 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: would get Ben Simmons. Does Ben Simmons make you that 141 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: much better? Now? I said, if I'm Portland, I at 142 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: least kick the tires on Ben Simmons, How much is 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: he going to cost me? And can we get him? 144 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Does he make Dame does he make the Blazers better? 145 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: He makes him different? And maybe that's a good thing. 146 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: But I think Portland's got to look long and hard 147 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: and say, do we trade Dame Lillard? And what could 148 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: we get for Dame Lillard? I mean that's really the key. 149 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to trade him, to trade him, but 150 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: I start I have to look at this and say, 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: are we are rebuilt Chauncey billupson his first year front 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: office upheaval? Where are we going? Who else do we have? 153 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: The identity is one player, But that one player is 154 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: not going to take you to the next level, not 155 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: any if he hasn't, he's not going to. And I 156 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: think that's that's the hard truth that you have to 157 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: face in a situation like this. Yeah, some people have 158 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: mentioned the Knicks is a place for a trade. Yeah, 159 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: the Knicks are twelve and twelve, and have you know 160 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: they had a resurgence the past year and a half. 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: They have this like likable team of B level players, 162 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: B plus level players. That's not gonna work for anything 163 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: real for the Knicks. That well, you're not going to 164 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals with the lineup you have, you have 165 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: a nice competitive team that's respecting. Yeah, but if I'm 166 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: the Blazers, why do I don't want anything for the Knicks? 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Like three of the best players. No, I don't. I 168 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: don't like what am I getting? Like we always feel like, oh, 169 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: the Knicks, Okay, why the Knicks? Like Dame Lillard now 170 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: wants to go to the Knicks, or he would want 171 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: to go to the Knicks. Entertain the idea. Tell me 172 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: what Portland gets. We always look at a trade, you know, 173 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: it's a one way street. It's like this team is 174 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: getting and I always go, Okay, what's the other team getting? Well, 175 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you. No, I don't know who do 176 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: you want that's not good? That wouldn't go well, Yeah, mclovin, 177 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you Emmanuel quickly, Obe Topping and Mitchell Robinson. 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, yeah, I mean remember 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: when the Knicks trade of Carmelo for a bunch of 180 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: young players. But you can't take four B players for 181 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: one Can you do that? Four B players for one 182 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: A player? It depends on what Portland's philosophy is going 183 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: to be. I mean that's really the key, like who 184 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: are you or what do you want to be? If 185 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: you do trade Dame Lillard, that's what you have to 186 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: figure out. And if you figure that out, then great. 187 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: If not, then you're going to be stuck in tenth 188 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: place in the West and you're not going to have 189 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: anybody that you I mean, at least I go back 190 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: when the Lakers weren't very good, but they had Kobe, 191 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: and they banked on you coming out to see Kobe, 192 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: but they weren't very good. And Portland, are you going 193 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: to be headed down that same road where hey come 194 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: out and see Dame. He's a lot of fun, he's entertaining, 195 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: he's one of the best players, But you gotta win. 196 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: What's your philosophy, Chauncey Billups didn't take this job to go. 197 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's sort of be on the outside 198 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. That's no man's land, Like you're not 199 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: bad enough to get good and you're sort of on 200 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: the cusp, and you even if you get in, you're 201 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: not going to be threatening when you get into the playoffs. 202 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's you hate to be irrelevant, and it 203 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: feels like Portland could be irrelevant even with Dame Lillard. 204 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Without him, they certainly will be at least for you 205 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: know a little bit of time there. Yeah. Well, the 206 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: classic trade where one great player for a bunch of 207 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: bees is the Charles Barkley trade to the Suns from 208 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: the seventy six ers. Barkley was a budding superstar, a 209 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: full superstar, made the Suns instantly relevant. Jerry Colangelo the 210 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Sons one executive of the year based off the Barkeley 211 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: trade because he gave up a bunch of b players 212 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: like Jeff Horn a second, a couple other dudes, and 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: the Sixers went to mediocrity. Yeah, and Charles wanted out. 214 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: But you can't make that trade where you take diminishing returns. Here, 215 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: it's like the Sixers. Sixers keep holding out for more 216 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: for Ben Simmons, like they're at least taking the other extreme, like, hey, 217 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: you gotta blow us away. We still want this for 218 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, and you know, maybe they're going to hold 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: out the rest of the year for that. Daryl Mooring, Yeah, nil. 220 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: One that historically I've never understood is the Bucks had 221 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: to get rid of Kareem Or because they wanted out. 222 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: He wanted out and they didn't really did they get 223 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: anything significant in return. They got Dave Myers. I think 224 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: they got or they got the draft picks for Marcus Johnson. 225 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Junior Bridgeman might have been involved in 226 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: the You're Gonna Nail this one? Yeah, yeah, Junior Bridgeman, 227 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Dave Myers, and center el Elmore Smith. Okay, don't know him. 228 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Elmore Smith. He played with the Cavaliers. Brian Winters. Brian 229 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Winters a very good shooter theyd Brian Winters kind of 230 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: looked like Bob Seeger, like he should have been playing 231 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: in a seventies rock band. Yeah, yeah, he had nice hair. 232 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: Brian Winters out of South Carolina, really good shooter, deep shooter. 233 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: But you traded, you know, one of the top three 234 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: or four players of all time, and and and he 235 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: was still in his prime. He might not even been 236 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: in his prime. He might have been just you know, 237 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: slipping into his prime. But you know, you're trying to 238 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: get you never get the same, you know. It's like 239 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: when Will Chamberlain was traded by the seventy six ers. Yeah, 240 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I think they got darryl Imhoff and Archie Clark for 241 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain. Now Wilt was a headache, but Wilt was 242 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: still a formidable player, a great player. But you never 243 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: get equal value. Yes, m it's better than the calves 244 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: letting Lebron get the free agency, isn't it? Or did 245 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: they really have no choice when he went to the 246 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Heat the first time. I don't know other than Lebron 247 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: hated the owner and probably didn't want to didn't want 248 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: to let him get anything in return. Yes. I can 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: remember being on the air before Lebron made his decision 250 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: and we were discussing do you trade You were discussing 251 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: with different NBA people, would you trade Lebron before that 252 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: date and get something for him? But they were saying 253 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: that caves Weep were saying, we can't trade him and 254 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: then find out he was going to pick us. But 255 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: we don't know. You know, they could have gotten a 256 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: truckload for him and he did not have a no 257 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: trade clause at that juncture of his career. Yeah. The 258 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: only thing with that is that if he hasn't already 259 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: told you, then you should know the answer. I mean 260 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: that was always my take with Hey, you Stan, I 261 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: don't know you got to watch the decision. If he 262 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: would have said that I'd go, let's see what we 263 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: can get for him. I asked a bunch of girls 264 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: of the problem my senior year, and now I say, 265 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I'll get back to you, and I held out hope. 266 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: I was a Cavs guy. Do you know somebody wants 267 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: to sing like Mariah Carey, cook, like Gordon Ramsey, maybe 268 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: shoot like Steph Curry. Master Class unlimited access to online 269 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: classes from the world's best. Now you can give one 270 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: annual Masterclass membership getting one free at masterclass dot com. 271 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Slash Patrick terms of pluck. If you're watching on Peacock, 272 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume, Paulie, you're going to reveal what 273 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: you found out with Carson Palmer's Heisman trophy. Bonus coverage 274 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: for people watching on Peak. Okay, that'll be coming up 275 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: here in a couple of minutes. Download the app. Hurry, 276 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: download the app, and you can watch as we find 277 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: out exactly what happened with the key and with the 278 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: heisman got it? And I don't know, PAULI said, I'm 279 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: not going to tell you, and I go, Okay, isn't 280 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: it fascinating that the key was ripped apart. It was 281 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: triple taped to the thing. It was like covered with tape. 282 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: It was a choice. I asked the opinion of someone 283 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: at the shipping place. They said that was probably not 284 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: an accident. No, no, somebody took it. The question is 285 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: what they do with the key? Did they open the container? 286 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: And is the heisman still in there? Because that's the 287 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I keep thinking, Hey, let's just get a forty pound 288 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: bag of sand, put it in there. You don't have 289 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: a key, and then somebody's got a heisman. Yeah, Polly, 290 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: if you were like some guy at fed X who 291 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: found the heisman and got it and took it home, 292 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: can you display it? Can you show it to your buddies? Well? 293 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: I always wonder about that. When you know there's lost 294 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: art and it's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, Who 295 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: do you show it to? You? Go, hey, come here, 296 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: sure here? And then nobody keeps a secret. They always 297 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: have those stories of people who like find a Super 298 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Bowl ring or steal a Super Bowl ring, or where 299 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: do you show? Where do you display? Hey? Come here? Here? 300 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Let me show you this? Yes, time, isn't the whole 301 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: reason to have something that special, stuff that you can 302 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: display to show it to people? Yeah? Just for your 303 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: own satisfaction, Like, if you're living alone in the world, 304 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: why would you need to have anything nice just if 305 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: no one can see it? Yeah? Yeah, cool? How did 306 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: you get that? I stole it out of the mail No, 307 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I really, no, I did. Yeah. Yeah. It was this 308 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: big box and I was like, screw it all open, 309 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: and then I took it all right. We'll come back 310 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: with the contents of Carson Palmer's Heisman Trophy suitcase back 311 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: after this. It's amazing. Discover matches all the cash bank 312 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: you earn on your credit card at the end of 313 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: your first year automatically, no limit on how much you 314 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: can earn, which is amazing. Even more amazing because of 315 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: all the places where Discover is accepted, ninety nine percent 316 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: of the places in the United States taking credit cards 317 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: take Discover, And that means when it comes to Discover, 318 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: get used to hearing the word yes more often. You 319 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: can learn more a lot more at discovered dot com 320 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: slash yes, that's discovered dot com slash Yes twenty twenty 321 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: one Nielsen Report limitations apply. Thanks for listening to The 322 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 324 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you can find us 325 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 326 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Well, we have an I Team 327 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: report and update. Paully holding us in suspense. If you 328 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: were watching on Peacock you know the results. We were 329 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: trying to track down the key to Carson Palmer's Heisman 330 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: trophy case, hoping said heisman was in said case without key. 331 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Did they have a master key that would be able 332 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: to open this? Is there a locksmith? Paully reveal what 333 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: you found out. The I Team found out this morning 334 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks of the the College Football Hall 335 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: of Fame had the case in its possession and was 336 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: waiting to see if the key would turn up or 337 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: if someone from the Dan Patrick Show would help out 338 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: and actually get the key. There no can do on 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: our side because we didn't provide it. So they went downstairs, 340 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: had their ops guy bring up his toolbox and to 341 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: take the top off the hysmen was inside. It was intact, 342 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: no issues. It doesn't appear that it was messed with 343 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: in any way, but they don't know. But now their 344 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: issue is after they display it for a certain period 345 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: of time, they do have to send it back to 346 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. They have a case that has no key, 347 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: so they will have to find a new case for 348 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: that heisman. Well, that'd be easier than finding a new heisman. 349 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: That's true, So I'm okay with the case. We are 350 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: officially off the hook. Yeah, man, it's been in a 351 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: long couple of days here, some finger pointing in the back. 352 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I gave immunity to Dylan, who works in the back. 353 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: He was part of the shipping crew. I was the 354 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: last person to see the heisman before it was lowered 355 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: into the case. Fritzie delegating and then, you know, not 356 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: taking any blame, distancing himself. They created a rift. I 357 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: mean it did, and hopefully we'll be able to patch 358 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: that up in the next two weeks. Yes, Young Mario 359 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: tweeting yesterday about how he doesn't eat lunch with rats. Oh, 360 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: I know by himself, No, I know he did. Didn't 361 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: want to have lunch with Dylan because Dylan's a rat. Yeah, 362 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: a lot of finger pointing yesterday. Andrew and Washington High Andrew, 363 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Good morning, five to seven, 364 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: still loading one sixty five? Thank you, Hey, I gotta 365 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: follow that up, Dan. I think, you know, Dan Patrick 366 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Nation needs to make sure Dylan is okay. We probably 367 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: need to check in on him, make sure he's all right. 368 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: I know it's cold and Milford, it's got to be 369 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: frosty in that back room or people making eye contact? 370 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: Can they talk to Dylan? Did they feel comfortable, you know, 371 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: just being a friendly around him? Maybe, you know, we 372 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: gotta check haven't come out, make sure snitches didn't get stitches. 373 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: I did, well. I did see Dylan this morning, and uh, 374 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: this is how bad it's gotten for Mario. Mario reaching 375 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: out to Tyler to be his friend downgrading, yes, sound grading. 376 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: I saw, yeah, Tyler was in Mario's office earlier today 377 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: and I said, what's going on? And Mario said, well, 378 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: given what Dylan, did you know, Tyler and I are 379 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: becoming friends again? Yes see, And Tyler's only friend here 380 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: is your dog Winnie. Yes, And so are we going 381 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: to see now Mario rolling around on the floor with 382 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Winnie too, with my puppy, three of them. Yeah, like 383 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on. I just know that, 384 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, Dylan and Mario used to be good friends. 385 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: And I see Tyler in there and Mario said that, 386 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to be friends with Tyler again, 387 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: and Dylan is you know, being called out as being 388 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: a snitch. But he said, look, I gotta do what's 389 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: best for the show. Yeah, I guess he did, all right, 390 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Mclubin what kind of poll questions we have today? Okay, 391 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna start off Steph Curry possibly hitting sixteen threes 392 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: set the all time record. Would you rather be known 393 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: as the greatest three point shooter of all time or 394 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: the greatest dunker of all time? Greatest three point shooter? 395 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: But if we put up a poll, how do you 396 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: think people would vote? Oh? I don't know. I'm just 397 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: telling you what I would want is to be the greatest, 398 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: because you can be the greatest dunker or be a 399 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: great dunker, but you know, shooting threes is where you 400 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: can win games just because you're dunking. Dominique Wilkins doesn't 401 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: have any titles, Vince Carter doesn't have any titles. It 402 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: feels like you can shoot a three, you got a 403 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: chance to keep your team in a game. So I 404 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: would say, for me, I'd rather be the greatest three 405 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: point shooter, which means you fall into the great shooter 406 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: of all time. In the game is about shooting, and 407 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: I'd rather be known as the greatest shooter than the 408 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: greatest dunker. Yes, but I'm gonna give you one. I 409 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: think this is a tough one. Okay, Now this is 410 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: a dunker versus a shooter. Okay, but both high end 411 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: players are not just known for like specialists. Okay, you 412 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: could have one career and everything that goes with it, 413 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: the image, the history, Steph Currier, doctor j Boom, that 414 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: just happened. That is a tough question, um, but there's 415 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: no wrong answer. I mean, I would still want to 416 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: be the greatest shooter of all time. Paulie wants to 417 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: walk off, and you're we're twenty eight minutes into the 418 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to leave today, and that's what 419 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: walk off. A lot of people want me to walk 420 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: off as well. Yeah, yeah, it's okay, you could just 421 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah yeah, So let me get these choices. 422 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: You could be a cute little shooter who does chimmies 423 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: and stuff, or the coolest man that's ever walked the planet. 424 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: You gotta you've got a point there. You can't exactly 425 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: phrase it that way. Doc is all time cool, legend, status. 426 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: He did it in the old days. Oh man, that 427 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: is a tough one. He has a title, yes tuned. 428 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: What if he never had that awesome Doctor Jay nickname. 429 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: What if he is just Julius every Big and you 430 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: were just looking at his stats in his name on 431 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: a piece of paper. Um, I mean that's part of it. 432 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's part of the whole persona. You can't 433 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: take that away, you know. To me, I think that 434 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: puts I mean, after Jay over the top because he's 435 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: doctor Jas Steph Curry's real name Wardell because his dad 436 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: is named Dell or are they shortened it to Dell, 437 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: So he's he's junior, but he goes by Steph. Ah boy, 438 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: I'd still want to be the greatest shooter of all time. 439 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: But man, there's something about doctor Jay. If somebody could 440 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: be Jazz when they walked, they played jazz, their body 441 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: played jazz, that'd be Doctor Jay. When he walked through 442 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: that La Airport Lax that day, it was as if 443 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Coltrane was just walking. That was Miles Davis. There was 444 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: a flow to Doctor Jay. It's badass, man, badass it was, 445 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: and I remember the dead ass. We were having an 446 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: early breakfast or launch or something like can we can 447 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: we go? And I said go yeah, and they're like 448 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: following Doctor Jay. I was a geeking. It was so 449 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: cool to see and when you're around him, it's a 450 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: chill vibe with Doctor Jay Man. I think if Doc 451 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: had gotten a little more run in the NBA as 452 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: opposed to the ABA, and people realized how great he 453 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: was and I got I got to see one game 454 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: in the ABA with Doctor j and I just remember 455 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: that he was just different than anybody else on the floor. 456 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: Just had this big frow, big hands, and he kept 457 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: dunking on people, dunking on everybody in traffic. And I 458 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: don't remember him taking shots jumpers because he didn't really 459 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: have a jump shot, and he had nice follow through, 460 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: nice form. But I just remember, like, WHOA, this is different. Yeah, 461 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: bo I see, I disagree. I think the ABA days 462 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: and the Rutger Park street ball days they add to 463 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: the mystery because he's one. He's one of the last 464 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: great athletes whose career you couldn't see on TV on 465 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: a regular basis. Once eighty two hit with the NBA, 466 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: you could watch every game anytime you want. You know, 467 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: we saw all of Larry Bird all of Magic Johnson 468 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: in college. But there's a mystery in a myth around 469 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: doctor j. People don't even know his real name some people, 470 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: And if you say the word the doctor, no one 471 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: thinks of an actual medical person of your sports man. Yes, 472 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it's generational because I think there's a group 473 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: of people who would rather be Alan Iverson than Steph 474 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Curry in a way. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yes, Alan 475 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: Iverson connected with a whole different generation absolutely because he 476 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: looked different, he played different. When he crossed over Mike 477 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: twice in the same move, like that was where you went, 478 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: oh wow, Alan Iverson, come on down, you're a star. 479 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, the tat's way, war's hair, everything about him, 480 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: like it was counterculture. What he would wear to a 481 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: press conference, throwback jersey. Yeah, Alan Iverson was cool. I 482 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: don't know if Steph Curry is cool to kids as 483 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: much as they just want to emulate that style, but 484 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: the style itself is cool. Iverson himself, everything about him, 485 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: there was a coolness factor to him. Yes, and even 486 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: just Alan Iverson's size was like attainable, you know what 487 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you knew, well, I'm not going to 488 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: grow up to be six five or six six but 489 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: six foot okay, I could do that. He felt he 490 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: felt more like an average person or something. Yes, John, 491 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: but even before Jordan, doctor Jay, would you know, flying 492 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: from the top of the key, switching hands, going from 493 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: one side of the backboard to the other, things that 494 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: we eventually said, Jordan, other guys do. I can't think 495 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: of anybody in some of our generations that did that 496 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: before doctor Jay was doing those things. No, the only 497 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: guy I remember seeing who was that athletic was Elgin 498 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: Baylor when he played for the Lakers, and then he 499 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: had a knee injury and it cut short his career. 500 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: But he didn't he missed primetime. He missed that that window, 501 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, because the NBA in the seventies, people weren't 502 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: watching NBA Finals. People weren't watching. Uh you know, it 503 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: took Bird and Magic to get to open that door 504 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: to everybody was now watching the NBA Finals. But Elgin 505 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: Baylor had that athleticism, but he wasn't. He wasn't you know, 506 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: like Doctor Jay, doctor Jacob be violent. I mean when 507 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: he dunked, he dunked. Look out below. Ye, Seaton has 508 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: a point like Lebron is not viewed like Ai or 509 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Curry because he's he's like a Greek god. There's nothing 510 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: you can't relate to that size and speed. Well, people 511 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: don't talk about, hey, I want to be like Lebron 512 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: because you can. I mean that God created one of 513 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: those and that's it. They'll be somebody like Luca is 514 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: different and Joe lmbad is different. Like they're all different. 515 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: We keep waiting for the next. When there won't be 516 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: that next, it'll be something different. I mean, there are 517 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who were Steph Curry size, and 518 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who can shoot really well, but 519 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: they're not Steph Curry. There are a lot of guys 520 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: who were Allen Iverson's size, they just weren't Alan Iverson. 521 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: There are a lot of six six guys who could jump, 522 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: but they weren't Michael Jordan, six nine guys like Larry 523 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Bird or six eight six nine guys like Magic. They're 524 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: just we keep waiting for it and it's not happening. 525 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: It's not fair to those who came first because we're like, oh, 526 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be the next Larry Bird. No, there's 527 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: one Larry Bird. Oh he's the next Magic. No, there's 528 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: only one magic, Yeah, Poe. Steph Curry does have a 529 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: thing where when you see a high school kid taking 530 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: a shot from thirty seven feet like easy stephe like 531 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: it's become like Woodward and Bernstein or Kleenex. It's a 532 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: It's that shooting is a brand and its name is 533 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Yeah, well, who do you think you are? 534 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: It's almost like, oh, you think you're Babe Ruth, you know, 535 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: oh you think you're Steph Curry. Like he's become a brand. 536 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: That's that's interesting. All right? Phone calls coming up EGE 537 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: seven seven three d P show email address DPA Dan 538 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show ye ask McLevin. 539 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: We have a very mean pole question and I think 540 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I can chary. This is actually probably Paul inspired away. 541 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: But okay, Luca don chick, how would you describe him? 542 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: Is he big boned, extremely strong, needs to work on 543 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: his conditioning a bit or a bit hefty? Uh, He's thick, 544 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: He's thick, He's I don't think he's in good shape back. 545 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: I think he's close to being thack Um. Here is 546 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: Luca the MAVs forward on his weight issues this season? Well, 547 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I think that's my thing you know people are gonna 548 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: talk about it, yes and no. But I know I 549 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: gotta do better. You know, I had a long summer. 550 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: I think I relax a little bit and I taking 551 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: care of but you know, I gotta be better. I 552 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: feel like that's affected you so far in the season. 553 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a long summer, like I'm saying. 554 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, I had two Olympics three weeks off, and 555 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: I said, relax a little bit, maybe too much, and 556 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: I got a good beat contract. Yeah, and I think 557 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: a lot of this started. Reggie Miller was on the 558 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: call and he pointed this out. He said, you got 559 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: the keys to the kingdom if you're Luca don Chick. 560 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: And he's a superstar, superstar in the making already, but 561 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: he could be so much better and he will get better. 562 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: But to me, he's got to trim down, he really does, 563 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: and he's got to get better defensively as well. Reggie 564 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: said that this is the heaviest that he's looked. You know, 565 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Reggie is not insulting him. People are like, oh, is 566 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: he fat shaming? No, he is analyzing. He's an analyst 567 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: and Reggie had, you know, played the game at a 568 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: high level and he's been broadcasting at a high level 569 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: for a long time. His job is to analyze. He's 570 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: not saying he's fat, He's saying he's out of shape. 571 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Now you can say that semantics. Well for Reggie, he 572 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: looks at this and says, hey, conditioning is what you 573 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: need because he's running out of wind at the in 574 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And you can say, well, he's twenty five. 575 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: You know he doesn't need conditioning. You can run all day. Well, 576 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: if you watch him, no, he can't. And his game, 577 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: you know that size does come in handy. But I 578 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: think you get to the point where you're not able 579 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: to move as effortless as he has been the first 580 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: couple of years. It seems like he labors at times, 581 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: and he has a little bit harder time in separating. 582 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he he did play in the Olympics, played 583 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: well in the Olympics, but it looked like once he 584 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: was done with that, he probably didn't pick up a 585 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: basketball for a while. Yeah, it's time. So if you 586 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: start exercising a lot less than eating a lot more. 587 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: The phrase relaxed a little bit, you know, can anyone, 588 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: including myself use that? Is that the new way of 589 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: refer him to just kind of given up a little bit, 590 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: that he relaxed. He said that multiple times in that sound, 591 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, I had a long sibody and 592 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: then I relaxed a little bit. Yeah, I mean he 593 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: took time off. He played in the Olympics, but he 594 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: does look he looks heavy, and I don't know what 595 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: the numbers are, but I would say he's probably close 596 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: to two sixty and he should probably be in that 597 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: two thirty range at his size, you know, Zion Williamson. 598 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: Same thing is this has become no pun intended a 599 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: big or bigger deal a foot injury, foot surgery with weight, 600 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: with that kind of player, with that kind of explosion. 601 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: How I mean seventy five percent of his shots are 602 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: probably within four feet of the basket. He needs that explosion. 603 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: When is he going to come back, what's he going 604 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: to be, you know, shape wise when he comes back. 605 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're estimates that he's well over three hundred pounds, 606 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: maybe close to three thirty, and at his size, shot 607 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: can be three thirty, not Zion, And that's going to 608 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: be a big issue the second half of the season 609 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: when he comes back, and that foot surgery maybe something 610 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: that's there with him the rest of his career. Yeah, 611 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm the club. This is not an excuse, but maybe 612 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: Luca doesn't need to go twenty eight, ten and ten 613 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: every night like it doesn't. He does everything for them, 614 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Like the end of the game last night, they were 615 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: all looking him to dribble, pass, shoot. Yeah, so he 616 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: wears out by the end of game. Kind of like 617 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: hardened it in Houston. I feel like they're not an 618 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: integrated team. You've said this before there Luca and the 619 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: Luca Ats basically. Yeah, but Harden was out of shape 620 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: when he showed up trying to get traded. Not that 621 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: Lucas trying to get traded, but he was out of shape, 622 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: and I you know, it was obvious there. And then 623 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: he got in better shape. He looks good now. But 624 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, this will be a learning process for Luca. 625 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: And look, there were players who when they got to 626 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: the summer, they didn't do anything. I mean, Larry Bird 627 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: would play softball and drink beer. But you know, not 628 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: everybody can do it. And it's a different era now. 629 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be healthy. There's so much money 630 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: here that you gotta You have this opportunity and it 631 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: feels like Luca is going to be using the season 632 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: to get in shape. That's the way players used to 633 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: do it. They would show up at camp and then 634 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: they would get in shape when they got to camp. 635 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's not the way it should be, and 636 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: hopefully Luca learns from it. Let's take a break, play 637 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: the day next. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 638 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. 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Russ pulls us to the crowd and then 659 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: comes over and says, are you not entertained? Lakers by nineteen. 660 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: That's courtesy of the Lakers Radio Network. The dunk was 661 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook's first. In his last three games this season, 662 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: four percent of his made field goals have been dunks, 663 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: the lowest percentage of his career. That's your Play of 664 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: the day. Play of the Day is brought to you 665 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: by Masterclass. You can sign up now. Give one annual 666 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Masterclass membership, get one free at masterclass dot com slash Patrick. 667 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: Terms apply, and you can learn from the grades Mariah Carey, 668 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsay, Martin Scorsese. Give the Masterclass unlimited access to 669 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: online classes from the world's best. In that game last night, 670 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: Lebron James scored thirty Westbrook at twenty four. Lakers beat 671 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: the Celtics, so they split the seasonal series for the 672 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: fifth consecutive year if you include the postseason. Lebron James 673 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: has now scored thirty or more points five hundred and 674 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: ninety nine times in his career, second all time two 675 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's six hundred seventy one stat of the day, 676 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: stat of the day, stat of the day, stat of 677 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: the day. Here comes that what stat of the day. 678 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: Even though the Lakers won, the temperature is a little warmer, 679 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: it feels like with Frank Vogel. The Lakers head coach. 680 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley last night on Inside the NBA had this 681 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: to say for the Lakers problems. In my opinion, I 682 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: blame Anthony Davis as Davis, you know, I like you 683 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: as a person, but you ain't doing what you're supposed to. 684 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: You're twenty seven years old. You're supposed to be in 685 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: your prime. You're supposed to be one of the five 686 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: best players in the world, up there with Jannis, Kevin 687 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: Deveryth and those guys, and you ain't holding up your 688 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: in at a bargain. So now I hear y'all going 689 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: particle that's total bs man. Now I feel better. Yea, 690 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: As I said when the season started, how about we 691 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: waiting until after Christmas. I might need a little more 692 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: time than after Christmas with this team. But you know what, 693 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: they may not be that good. People may have to 694 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: come to the reality that the Lakers aren't going to 695 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: be that good or that consistent. They're gonna have highs 696 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have lows. How about you play defense? 697 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: How about you get to the free throw line? Like 698 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: these are all simple things. It feels like those are 699 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: simple fixes. Well, Lebron has been a jump shooter. I 700 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: don't want Russ taking jumpers, get to the hoop, get 701 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: fouled Lebron. It feels like this was a goal premeditated. 702 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: When he started the season he started taking all those threes, 703 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: and I said, it feels like that he is trying 704 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: to become more of a three point shooter than he 705 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: is a guy who's going to drive to the hoop. 706 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: Nobody can stop him when he drives to the hoop, nobody. 707 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: I think he has trepidation about going to the line. 708 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: We've never been a great free throw shooter. He's shooting 709 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: these jump shots right now and maybe it's load management 710 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: on his part. But I don't know if I can 711 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: look at Frank Vogel and say, yep, fire Frank Vogel, 712 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna Now it's gonna turn around. Frank Vogel 713 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: was the right voice. It's the right personality for this 714 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: team when he first got there. You know, when you 715 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: know Jason Kidd, Oh, it's just a matter of time 716 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: for Jason Kidd takes over for Frank Vogel. Frank Vogel 717 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: is not a hot take guy. He's not going to 718 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: be dominating the press conference. He just comes in and 719 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: he's going to be a steadying influence. He's a really 720 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: good coach. Do I think that putting this team together 721 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: may have been the flaw? Yes, Russ is fascinating. Russ 722 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: is not a winner. Anthony Davis, you should be Jannis. 723 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: You have a skill set. You could be better than 724 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: Yannis in my opinion. Do you want to can you Lebron? 725 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: What can you count on? You know, you know you're 726 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: gonna depend on Lebron win when you get to the playoffs, 727 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: maybe not so much during the regular season. At at 728 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: some point, Lebron all of a sudden starts to slip 729 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: back down to being mortal. I mean, he's still is 730 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: going to be a great player, but can I rely 731 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: on him to take over games, take over a week, 732 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, and I don't think you can right now. 733 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: But that's where Anthony Davis has to go. I gotta 734 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: be the star. I gotta dominate. So I agree with Barkley, 735 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis will be the reason why this team wins 736 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: a title or doesn't win a title, because I think 737 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: he has that much talent, and then you sprinkle in 738 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: everybody else, then you can win the championship. But until 739 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: Russ knows exactly what his role is, he's still trying 740 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: to figure that out. And remember he was the blame, 741 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: he was the fall guy, and then he started playing 742 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: really well. But I think trying to figure that out 743 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: while playing in the shadow of Lebron James is really tricky. 744 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: And you've pieced this team together, you know, Dwight Howard, 745 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan. That gets kind of a let's see if 746 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: it all fits together. You throw at the blender and 747 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: you hope it tastes good, and right now it doesn't. Yeah, Paul, 748 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: with Anthony Davis, is it about his play or his demeanor. 749 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't look fiery. He's averaging twenty four points, ten rebounds, 750 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: three assists, two blocks, shooting fifty two. It's not a 751 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: very good year, not at super great twenty nine and 752 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: thirteen like Yannis averages. Yeah, but his demeanor affects his 753 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: game because if he attacked more, and maybe he can't 754 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: do it. Maybe this is just who he is. Yannis 755 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: wants to dominate. Yannis wants to be great every single night. 756 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if Anthony Davis is just wired 757 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: that way. In fairness to him, and there's only a 758 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: year and a half age difference between Yannis and Anthony Davis. 759 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: You know, I thought Anthony Davis was on that uphill 760 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: climb and he was going to slip into one of 761 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: the top three five players he can be. But I 762 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: want to see it every night. I want them to gain. 763 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: Plan to stop you Mount Lebron Heisman Trophy finalist Kenny Pickett, 764 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: he'll join us coming up. What's he think of the 765 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna slide. I'm not gonna slide. I'm gonna run 766 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. We'll talk to him about that. One 767 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: more item. We close out hour one. 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