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Speaker 1: who's sitting right here. It's the director of Pro Scouting,

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Speaker 1: Brian Gardner. Eleven years with the Titans. Welcome, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the OTP.

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Speaker 2: Is beautiful, Yes, useful.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the bet MGM studio is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: We're very pleased to be here and thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: you here, and we're going to visit with some of

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Speaker 1: the folks that work with you in the in the

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Speaker 1: football scouting world and research world. You handle all of

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Speaker 1: the pro personnel stuff. So are you scout teams? Are

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Speaker 1: you scouting players? All of the above?

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Speaker 3: How does that work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more all of the above.

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Speaker 4: Basically for the most part, we have the responsibility of

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Speaker 4: advanced scouting, which is scouting our UPco upcoming opponents during

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Speaker 4: the season, going in and doing scouting reports, breakdowns on

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Speaker 4: the players on that team, the scheme, anything that we

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Speaker 4: can pick up that we think can help our coaches.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the stuff that we do in advanced

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Speaker 4: scouting is we try to bring back information that they

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Speaker 4: just can't see on film. Our coaches are always very

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Speaker 4: adept at watching the film breaking down the opponent, but

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Speaker 4: things like injury, tempo, substitutions, all of those things that

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Speaker 4: they don't see between the plays on film is the

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Speaker 4: stuff that we try to bring back. In terms of

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Speaker 4: advanced scouting, reponsible for scouting individual players for a free agency.

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Speaker 4: So along with breaking down those opponents, we're scouting every

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Speaker 4: team in the league looking at their upcoming free agents,

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Speaker 4: the players that'll be available, those players that might come

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Speaker 4: available based on potential cap, casualties or salary. And then

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Speaker 4: the other part of us is being aware of the

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Speaker 4: players that are on the street. So I like to

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Speaker 4: refer to us as the nine one one people. So

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Speaker 4: when something happens, there's an injury, somebody's hurt, who's out there,

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Speaker 4: So we have to keep tabs on who's on the street,

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Speaker 4: whether it's other leagues, whether it's players that were cutting preseason,

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Speaker 4: players that are available for trade, so whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: So it's individual players the streets, the advanced scout and portion.

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Speaker 1: So the person who goes to do the advanced scout.

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Speaker 1: Like say, for instance, we're getting ready to play Sincinnati

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Speaker 1: the weekend before, someone will have been assigned to Cincinnati Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Does that person make a presentation to the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: at the start of Cincinnati week Yes?

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Speaker 4: So what happens is is that scout is working a

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Speaker 4: week ahead of the team, so they're preparing for that

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Speaker 4: upcoming opponent.

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Speaker 2: A week ahead.

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Speaker 4: They'll write up all the players, the substitutions, the signals,

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Speaker 4: the you know, the packages that the team runs, try

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Speaker 4: to break them down schematically by numbers and evaluation, and

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Speaker 4: then they'll physically go to the game a week ahead

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Speaker 4: of the opponent they're they're live, they'll scout the game,

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Speaker 4: bring back that report the next day to the coaches.

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Speaker 4: Typically we will meet with the offensive offensive coordinator, the

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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, the special teams coordinator, and we'll try to

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Speaker 4: visit with each individual position coach, hand them a scouting report,

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Speaker 5: I'm very interested in the player scouting part of what

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Speaker 5: you guys do, because we're coming off of the draft

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Speaker 5: and we talked a lot about how players are organized

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Speaker 5: all of the things that Coach Mac likes to talk about.

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Speaker 5: You guys have a tremendous volume of humans that you

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Speaker 5: So when there is a nine to one one moment,

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Speaker 2: Name that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: You put that you don't literally have now close.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's also not nineteen sixty five anymore, I guess

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Speaker 2: We do it in several different ways. So one in

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Speaker 2: we have several ready lists.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so when a player is released or cut each day,

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Speaker 2: Uh, and then we will electronically we.

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Speaker 4: So then when we have an injury, then all we

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Speaker 4: And then for free agency, kind of a similar process

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Speaker 4: electronic free agent board that as we go through the teams,

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Speaker 4: we break those players down based on their viability for

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Speaker 4: It does change because each staff may value a certain

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Speaker 4: whether he's a top starter, a good starter, etc. Then

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Speaker 4: And so that's why you know, with Brian Callahan coming

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Speaker 4: that we value by each position. You know, we had

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Speaker 2: So this player must have to be able to do ABCD.

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Speaker 2: And then as we grade the players.

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Speaker 1: And now with us at the start of free agency,

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Speaker 1: to this time of the year, we're basically in phase

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Speaker 1: three of free agents. How different is your job in

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Speaker 1: pro personnel and pro scouting at this moment where you're

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Speaker 1: trying to find those last veterans who fit the Titans

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Speaker 4: Well, it evolves, but you know, like I said, we're

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Speaker 4: of things. Good example would be Tyler Boyd, a player

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Speaker 4: So he's a player that played in Cincinnati, has a

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Speaker 4: history with Brian Callahan, and he was an unrestricted free agent,

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Speaker 4: didn't quite get the offers that he was looking for.

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Speaker 4: We were doing some different things, so it kind of

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Speaker 2: Know, post draft.

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Speaker 4: whether it's with the agent, whether you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: But it's tricky too, because you got some guys, especially

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Speaker 1: to where do they want to go through this anymore.

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of things you have to sort

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Speaker 4: In right, and that's where a lot of these guys

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Speaker 4: are at this point that were unrestricted free agents. Some

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Speaker 4: of the older players, you know, they have to ask themselves,

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Speaker 4: they're those veteran players that are still sitting out there

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Speaker 5: At that point, how does a person end up walking

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Speaker 6: Cool job, but it's very specific specific.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of ways into the business. Ex Players,

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Speaker 1: Pro scouting department is something that has always fascinated me.

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Speaker 2: About the draft.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely everybody thinks of what they see when everybody's on

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Speaker 6: All of that stuff. But there's so much more to it.

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Speaker 1: But you know who does do college scouting, the director

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Speaker 3: It's really cool working for your hometown team, team you

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the case. Scouting is pretty competitive field, and

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Speaker 6: That's awesome.

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Speaker 5: So now in your current role, you're doing a little

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Speaker 3: Sure, So we've got a staff of area scouts that

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Speaker 3: At All Star games, that's our first time to really

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Speaker 1: Overall, the transfer portal affected college scouting for the Titans

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Speaker 3: It's affected things kind of at the end of the process.

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Speaker 3: We need to evaluate every player. We don't know their intentions,

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Speaker 5: Being on the road that much, you've got to know

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Speaker 3: Well, we do.

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Speaker 3: I think it has to during this short period of

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Speaker 1: All right, So wrap up with this the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: I'd like to say that we saw it happening exactly

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Speaker 3: It's never the way you think when you start out.

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Speaker 3: When you start out at the beginning of the process,

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Speaker 3: there's always players you have in your mind that you

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Speaker 3: feel like, this guy's this guy's got a lot of

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Speaker 3: hype around him, this guy's had production. You know, coaches

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Speaker 3: are very high on this player, and you just got

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Speaker 3: to let that process play out because a litany of

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Speaker 3: things happen over the course of the fall that changes.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: You've got injuries, You've got players that decide to return

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Speaker 3: back to school, You've got transfers, We've got all these

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Speaker 3: things that come up. There's no way to predict that.

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Speaker 3: So we stay true to our system here. We've got

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Speaker 3: we've got a very good system that Ran has helped implement,

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Speaker 3: and we've got great support from Anthony Robinson Chad Brinker.

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Speaker 3: I think we tell our scouts to just stay the course,

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Speaker 3: continuing gathering information because once you feel like you've got

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Speaker 3: a player figured out, you're going to you're bound to

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Speaker 3: come across something that changes at the last minute. So

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Speaker 3: I really feel good about kind of where we've come.

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Speaker 3: But it never ends up when that draft rolls around,

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Speaker 3: they relying to you if they said, oh I saw it,

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Speaker 3: I saw it this way exactly, never the case.

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Speaker 1: John Salgi, Director of College Scouting, Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you all.

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Speaker 6: So, Titans fans.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we've done college scouting, We've done pro scott,

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Speaker 1: we sure have. I think we should go even deeper, deeper,

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Speaker 1: even deeper in football minutia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna start talking

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Speaker 5: about numbers.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I love numbers.

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Speaker 6: I know you do. Sarah Bailey also loves numbers.

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Speaker 1: She loves numbers. Director of Football Research and Development for

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Welcome to the bet MGM studio.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, nice to be here.

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Speaker 1: You don't get out a lot, right, I don't get

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Speaker 1: a well know, football development and research could be substituted

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Speaker 1: for analytics. You're the football analytics team leader. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: So how did you get into this? How did this

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Speaker 1: become a thing? I mean, did you grow up dreaming

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Speaker 1: of doing football analytics?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I feel like now it's more publicized where people know

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Speaker 7: that it's actually a viable career. But when I was

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Speaker 7: going to school, it was really only baseball analytics was

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Speaker 7: the thing. So I kind of just was going to school,

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Speaker 7: had a math degree, and like my senior year, a

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Speaker 7: professor was like, well, what do you want to do

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Speaker 7: with it? And I'm like, it's a good question. I

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Speaker 7: really like sports. Can I do something with that? And

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Speaker 7: things started kind of falling place when I realized that

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Speaker 7: there was a career, and I started looking into football

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Speaker 7: and how underdeveloped it was, and to me that was

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Speaker 7: the most exciting part because really things you did were innovative,

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Speaker 7: and so you could do research that was new and

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Speaker 7: fresh and hopefully helpful.

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Speaker 1: And so did you start somewhere specifically in football or

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Speaker 1: did you start in baseball?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: So I got an internship with the San Diego Chargers

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Speaker 7: at the time. Okay, but I was doing digital media analytics,

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Speaker 7: and so I was doing that. So my internship and

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Speaker 7: I really enjoyed it. The team was great there, but

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Speaker 7: I kept being like, oh, I'd love to be in

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Speaker 7: the football side. I'd love to be in the football side.

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Speaker 7: So I felt for myself personally that I need to

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Speaker 7: go back to school. So I went back to school.

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Speaker 7: I got my master's in stats, and then I just

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Speaker 7: saw a job posting for the RAMS and it came

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Speaker 7: up about a month or two before I was set

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Speaker 7: to graduate. I applied, I interviewed and kind of just

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Speaker 7: got into that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so explain to me exactly what we do. Everybody

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Speaker 5: knows I'm not the numbers person. What are some of

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Speaker 5: the ways that you're using some of the information that

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Speaker 5: you gather to actually help a team do what they

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Speaker 5: need to do.

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Speaker 6: What are some of the spaces that we see.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a football example first, give us a football

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Speaker 1: example of analytic.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so, I think a lot of people, probably a

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Speaker 7: common one that's not a secret sharer is like fourth

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Speaker 7: down stuff, and how do you optimize your fourth down

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Speaker 7: decision making. There's a lot of things that go into

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Speaker 7: what might why a team might decide to go for

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Speaker 7: it on fourth down. It's not as simple as like, oh,

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Speaker 7: or fourth and sure, let's just go for it. There's

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Speaker 7: sort of a risk and reward, and so I always

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Speaker 7: view it kind of as a twofold where you can

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Speaker 7: have a recommended chart. But I think a lot of

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Speaker 7: information that comes from analytics me personally at least comes

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Speaker 7: in like the actual analyzing of the information that you're doing.

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Speaker 7: So you build this fourth down model where you say, Okay,

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Speaker 7: what's a likelihood will convert. What's the benefit if we do,

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Speaker 7: what's the risk if we don't. But there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of information within that process where you can say, okay, well,

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Speaker 7: what really affects it? So you can teach the not

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Speaker 7: really teach, but you can tell the coaches or tell

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Speaker 7: the person on the mic, like, hey, these variables are

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Speaker 7: more impactful, and they can really use their football knowledge

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Speaker 7: their master craft to sort of determine how the game's

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Speaker 7: going in game and understand like, oh, this score differential

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Speaker 7: kind of affects it more like, hey, we haven't converted

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Speaker 7: on third down up to this point. Maybe we're a

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Speaker 7: little bit less gristed first than before.

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Speaker 1: A right, So the non on the field part of

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Speaker 1: it what's something in terms of analytics that you do,

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Speaker 1: maybe preparing for the draft or free agency or anything

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love the draft. It's personally one of my

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Speaker 7: favorite parts. I think, particularly like the late rounds where

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Speaker 7: you have all these players and all this potential and

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Speaker 7: there's maybe not as much differentiation into a superstar, like

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Speaker 7: at least on paper, but there are superstars in those rounds.

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Speaker 7: We've seen it. So how can we optimize that success?

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Speaker 7: And how do we look at like all the work

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Speaker 7: that the scouts have done, because they're putting in the time,

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Speaker 7: and how can we use the data and the information

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Speaker 7: that they've collected to really hone in on like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: what's important, what position is more likely to succeed, what

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Speaker 7: traits of that position might have a little bit more

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Speaker 7: success in the league, and try and optimize our position.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to sell that when you go in

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Speaker 1: to like the scouts and.

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Speaker 7: The oh certainly. I mean I think it's fun coming

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Speaker 7: here because it is relatively new, and so I've had

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Speaker 7: to almost fine tune my skill set and communication too,

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Speaker 7: and I'm certainly still growing, so it'll be a battle

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Speaker 7: next year as well. But I think I think a

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Speaker 7: lot of people are interested in I think you have

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Speaker 7: to have proof of concept too, where it's examples and

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Speaker 7: everyone's going to always bring up the outlier. Well, this

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Speaker 7: guy was such and such heightened weight, so he's going

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Speaker 7: to be successful. And so I think it's like almost

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Speaker 7: being prepared for those and understanding that, like it is

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Speaker 7: just a piece of the puzzle. So I don't believe

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Speaker 7: that I'm going to be wrong most of the time,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's just the case, is understanding errors

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Speaker 7: and understanding your limitations too, but just having that one percent,

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Speaker 7: that little piece that can sometimes be a tiebreaker.

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Speaker 5: Now you have a background in athletics. Are you were

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Speaker 5: a track athletes? Is that correct?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: How does something like that having an understanding of some

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Speaker 5: of the outside elements that can impact any kind of

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Speaker 5: athletic performance, How does that help you when you look

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Speaker 5: at numbers?

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Speaker 6: It gives you maybe like a frame of reference.

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Speaker 2: Almost good question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think it particularly helps when you're dealing with like

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Speaker 7: the sports science space. So when I started with the RAMS,

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Speaker 7: I actually started as a sports scientist. So it's working

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Speaker 7: with their medical staff and their trainers and looking at

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Speaker 7: injury prevention and how to limit risk on players and

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Speaker 7: optimize performance. And I think for me that really helps

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Speaker 7: because you understand periodization and workload and really like what

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Speaker 7: a schedule looks like, things you can control, things you

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Speaker 7: can't control, and that helps kind of give meaningful information

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Speaker 7: to the people that need to use it. So I

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Speaker 7: definitely think it has helped in a sense.

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Speaker 1: In terms of an NFL example, Vence Lombardi is always mentioned,

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Speaker 1: It's Lombardi Trophy. Is there a Vince Lombardi type in

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Speaker 1: analytics that you and others really look up to as

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Speaker 1: maybe the pioneer somebody at the forefront of this.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think most people are going to point

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Speaker 7: to like Moneyball and have that be like their aha

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Speaker 7: moment into the league, And so I would say that

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Speaker 7: one's pretty consistent. I think in house, you know, it

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Speaker 7: really depends on like your passion. Are you interested in

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Speaker 7: like the math, and in that case, you might really

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Speaker 7: think your heroes are the researchers and the people that

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Speaker 7: are at schools even that are doing this like just

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Speaker 7: grinding it for fun. And if you're interested in the

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Speaker 7: sport performance, orry, you might look at teams that are

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Speaker 7: really excelling at injury prevention and limiting that. So I

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Speaker 7: think for the most part, most people are like, oh, Philly,

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Speaker 7: bet for sure, one hundred percent. But there's different nuances too.

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Speaker 5: There's so many different ways that these numbers can be applied.

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Speaker 5: Is there a space that your most favorite, because it

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Speaker 5: sounds like you've worked in a lot of different areas

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Speaker 5: and using numbers to predict a lot of different things.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: I like to say like I love the draft, but

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Speaker 7: I also think like when I start doing other things,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, I love this, Like I'm working on

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Speaker 7: a lot of coaching stuff right now, and it's like

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Speaker 7: this is so interesting. So for me personally, I just

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Speaker 7: I love it all. I think you see more impact

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Speaker 7: in certain areas and that might motivate other people. But

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Speaker 7: I also of the frame of mind where if you

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Speaker 7: can convert someone to an analyst believer, it's almost more rewarding.

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Speaker 7: So I don't think I have a very specific favorite.

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Speaker 7: I think it's all really interesting. I do think it's important,

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Speaker 7: like to get the exposure to all of it because

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Speaker 7: if you understand how the pieces work together, like performances.

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Speaker 7: It's related to scouting. You have to know if the

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Speaker 7: players are injury first or not. Like coaching can somehow

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Speaker 7: be related to players too. You want to know the size,

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Speaker 7: you want to know what the players are looking for

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Speaker 7: while they fit in the scheme. So I think it's

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Speaker 7: important that you understand all three opponents so that you're

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Speaker 7: able to do each one better selling.

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Speaker 1: Brian Callahan has not been a prop No, he's a believer.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, Brian is great. Coach Cali is awesome. He

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Speaker 7: came in and you know, it's one of the emphasis

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Speaker 7: was like, hey, how do these coaches respond to analytics?

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Speaker 7: And he was just really open and had a lot

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Speaker 7: of ideas that he was bringing from the Bengals that

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Speaker 7: helped me kind of help him in a way. And

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Speaker 7: I've really enjoyed working with him and his staff and

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Speaker 7: getting them the stuff that they need and hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 7: as we grow, Like just draft just finished. So that's

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Speaker 7: really been an emphasis lately, which is fun.

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Speaker 1: How many people on your staff currently?

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Speaker 7: We're pretty slim. We are hiring, so we're we're hopefully

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Speaker 7: going to.

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Speaker 1: Run Amy's ready.

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Speaker 6: I can't read, but I'd love to come with That's okay.

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Speaker 1: He's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes sometimes you can just tell me the stuff I

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Speaker 7: need to do. Because it keeps going.

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Speaker 1: Through the cracks, but this just keeps mushrooming.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, so right now, you know, it's kind of

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Speaker 7: we sort of have two pillars in our staff. So

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Speaker 7: one is like football informations that's sort of development team,

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Speaker 7: and then there's like research and development that's sort of me.

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Speaker 7: So right now it's me and then Matt is our

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Speaker 7: kind of developer analyst that's hybrid between the two, which

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Speaker 7: is great. But we are going to be adding to

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Speaker 7: analysts and a data engineer another developer for that seed.

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Speaker 7: So we have a we're going to grow from two

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Speaker 7: to four pretty quickly.

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Speaker 5: That's so if you're looking for someone to get involved

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Speaker 5: in this, is this like kids who are going into

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Speaker 5: college is math.

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Speaker 6: The degree that they choose? Is there? What is kind

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Speaker 6: of the path to get to this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think, I mean there's no path. It's not like

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Speaker 7: I wish if I could write a book and it

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Speaker 7: would be successful, I would be rich, so it would

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Speaker 7: be great. I think that the path is really figuring

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Speaker 7: out like your passion and being sort of open. I

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Speaker 7: think if you're two kind of narrow minded in one area,

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Speaker 7: whether it's a sport or like a like a aspect

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Speaker 7: of it. Then you know, the opportunity is so rare

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Speaker 7: uh that you're probably going to pigeonhole yourself a bit.

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Speaker 7: I always like to emphasize like more of a generic

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Speaker 7: like statistics or math type of background versus like, you know,

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Speaker 7: the specialized programs are awesome as well, Like there's they

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Speaker 7: never had them when I was going to college, so

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Speaker 7: like there's sports analytics programs. There's these things that are

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Speaker 7: really like niche, which is great, but I would say that,

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Speaker 7: And then there's opportunities for research too. The NFL has

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Speaker 7: a big datable that they host every year. If the

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Speaker 7: winners or the finalists get to go to the combine,

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Speaker 7: they get a percent in front of coaches and uh

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Speaker 7: gms and personnel staff.

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Speaker 6: So wait, the what is it? The datable big datable?

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, this just did not exist. Yeah yeah. So

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Speaker 7: you're given a set of data like tracking data from

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Speaker 7: the NFL, and you essentially have X amount of time

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Speaker 7: to uh to complete a project. And usually you're given

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Speaker 7: a prompt, you're given a track, and you're I could

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Speaker 7: host that.

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Speaker 5: This is incredible, you could host It'd be my game show.

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Speaker 1: Dream would come true.

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Speaker 6: It's like a science fair.

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Speaker 3: Pushing it too here.

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 1: I have a resume.

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Speaker 2: I walk around with one every day, every day.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Bailey, Director Football Research and Development. I got it right.

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Speaker 1: That was really good. Thank you for sharing all that

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 7: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: For Sarah Bailey and Amy Wells. I' Mike Keith with

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Speaker 1: my resume right here in case the NFL needs it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for getting new jobs maybe.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for the O T P.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Big Show where the legs going everbotty nose,

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Speaker 4: it's