1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: There are so many interesting things to talk about today. 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Albert Breer is now Monday Morning Quarterback is now joining 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: US live. Let's get to the CD Lamb thing, because 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys face a ticked off Packers team. I don't 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: know what the line is. I'm taking Green Bay without 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: ced Lamb. It was pretty obvious yesterday Dak wanted to 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. Pickens is not a separator. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: He's very good after the catch. They need ced Lamb 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: to score, I mean, to make any big plays. Do 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: we know an update on CD. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there's gonna be the full 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: four to six weeks that you've seen out there, so 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: I think there's a chance that timeline gets shortened by 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: a bit. But obviously it looks very iffy it being 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: a high ankle sprame for this week against the Packers, 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you the way that defense is playing 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: right now. On the Cowboys defense is playing right now, 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: Dallas probably needs all the offense they can get, So 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: not a great spot for Dak Prescott to be going 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: up against the Packers defense that, even though they lost yesterday, 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: still played really well and has played well over the 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: first three weeks this season. 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing to watch Daniel Jones and Mac Jones resurrect 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: their careers. But I think Daniel looks different. Daniel Zoh 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: has been bigger and faster, a very good athlete. I wonder. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I was on this for a year. I 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: think the coach roster is actually pretty good. I think 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: they're all lines good. Warren's a star, Jonathan Taylor, Pittman 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: downs like I like their players. Is the league surprised 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: at this? Are you getting texts for people around the 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: league on Daniel Jones because these are big three Albert 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: He's throwing the ball down the field. 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is a little bit of surprise 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: over it, but it's to bet the Colts made And 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, I think I may use the statistic with you, 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: but if I didn't, here it is and This is 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 3: one that a couple of Colts people gave me over 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: the summer that I thought was really interesting. Last year, 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: they were twenty ninths in the NFL in total defense, 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: and they were thirtieth in giveaways, and they still won 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: eight games. So they bring in Luyne Rumo to fix 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: the defense. And then you know, when I talked to 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Shane Steichen and some other people there about what was 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: going to win their quarterback competition, it was, we just 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: want somebody who can come in and operate the offense, 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: essentially put their hands at ten and two and run 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: the offense the way it's being drawn up, which, of 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: course I think is a bit of an indictment on 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, and I think was also subtly a vote 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: of confidence in what they already had on the offensive 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: side of the ball. 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: In other words, what they're saying is, if we. 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: Could just get competent quarterback play, there are enough guys here, 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: and that's Michael Pittman, that's Downs, That's you know, Ady 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: Mitchell in spots, that's Alec Pierce, who's played well through 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: the first month of the season. Is Tyler Warren, is 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, It's an offensive line that's gotten younger and 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: has improving, got a good left tackle and Bernard Raymond. 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: There was a real belief internally that the talent there 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: was better than the rest of the NFL thought. 69 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: And I think that's showing up. 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: And then you know the difference lou Ana Romo is 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: making on defenses showing up too, and bringing in guys 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: like Moody Ward and and and cam bying them and 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: they're playing more aggressive and and I think better ball 74 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: on that side of the ball too. 75 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Listen, the Rams match up very well with Philadelphia, with 76 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: two exceptions corner where they don't have a big corner 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: and the interior of their old line. They're not very 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: good at center, back up, right guard. They can't block 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. They couldn't block him on 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the fourth and one two kicks. They couldn't block him 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: last year in the divisional round. The Rams looked like 82 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: a team to me that may make a move at 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, because I think they with Stafford know 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: his age, I think they're going to make a move 85 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: with the trade deadline. What say you? 86 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: I think you're right I think there's definitely a possibility. 87 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: Now, It's important to remember they've already invested on the 88 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: interior of the offensive line. They paid Kevin Dotson, they 89 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: drafted Steve Avila at the top of the second round, 90 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: so they've already made their investments there. I think corner 91 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: becomes a little bit more interesting, and I think a 92 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: lot of this, like these holes, it's sort of philosophical 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: for the Rams. If you look back in recent years, 94 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: in the last four or five years, they've really focused 95 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: on investing at the offensive skill positions and along the 96 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: defensive front, and their belief is they have to enhance 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: their quarterback and affect the other team's quarterback. 98 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 4: And it's really worked. 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: When you look at the skill group they have on offense, 100 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: between Puka Nakua and Devontae Adams and Kyron Williams and 101 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: Blake Kruman, on and on and on. 102 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 4: You see it there. 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: And then on the defensive front, they've been able to 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: effectively replace the production they lost with Aaron Donald, which 105 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: might have seemed impossible at the time when Donald retired 106 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: with guys like Jared burs and Braden and Kobe Turner 107 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: and Byron Young and the second piece of that, of course, 108 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: is where you're investing a little bit less. And again 109 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: they've invested on the interior of the offensive line, but 110 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: at corner they haven't. So that'd be the spot i'd 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: watch really since walking away from Jalen Ramsey. They haven't 112 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: invested much in that position, don't. I believe they haven't 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: used a top one hundred pick on a corner in 114 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: over five years now, wow. And their belief is that 115 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 3: that position in today's NFL is more of a speed 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: bump than a stop sign. So you're better off trying 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback than you are trying to 118 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: stop the elite receivers. It will be interesting to see 119 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: if there's a little bit of a shift when you 120 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: get closer to the trade deadline, if that opportunity exists 121 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: for the Rams, because most certainly yesterday it was a 122 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: huge problem in those key spots. 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: They could not stop aj Brown and Devonte Smith. 124 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: So I think the Colts are surprisingly good. I think 125 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Denver has really surprised me way too many mistakes and 126 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: watching bo Nick so far, he played so many college games, 127 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: he came ready to play. I think he's hit his ceiling. 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I do wonder if Sean Payton's a little frustrated yesterday, 129 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: it's Herbert making the plays late and not bone Nicks. 130 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: What do you think about where Denver's at. 131 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think the environment's a little bit different than 132 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: it was last year. I mean, last year, that team 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: was winning games on defense, and it's a different thing 134 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: when you're asking your young quarterback to put up twenty 135 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: or twenty four points rather than getting a shootout. And 136 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: towards the end of the game yesterday you saw Justin 137 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Herbert take over and Bonix had to keep up with him. 138 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: And then the week before against Indianapolis, and they probably 139 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: should have won that game anyway, but that was a 140 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: high scoring game. So these are different types of games 141 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: than the Broncos were winning last year. And so then 142 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: the next question becomes Ken Bonicks elevate. And this is 143 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: always the way Sean Payton built in New Orleans. 144 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 4: You had guys here and there. 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: They invested in at the skill positions, Jimmy Graham, Marcus Colston, 146 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara, but most of their investment was in the 147 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: offensive line, and it was Andrew Brees to make the 148 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: rest work. So I think now the big picture question 149 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: for the Broncos is Can they still build that way 150 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: with Bonnix' as their quarterback or are they going to 151 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: eventually going. 152 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: To have to do a little bit more to put 153 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: weapons around him. 154 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you watched the Chiefs last night, and 155 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: they'll be better when Worthy returns. They'll be better when 156 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Rice returns. But they don't run the ball. The offensive 157 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: line's average. I said, they remind me of a pitcher, 158 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: an old baseball pitcher that's lost about five miles an 159 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: hour office fastball. And I don't put them in a 160 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl class. I know everybody thinks they're going to 161 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: get better, but I saw Rice and Worthy together last 162 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: year for a few games. They still couldn't run the ball. 163 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I didn't love their offensive line. They're another team Albert 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I think could take a swing at the trade deadline 165 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: to help their offense. 166 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: Could they not Tyreek Kill? Maybe if he becomes available, 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: I could see something like that. I think they do 168 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: want to see what it looks like when they get 169 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: some of their guys back. And I know I look 170 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: back at history, Colin, and to me, they are what 171 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: the Patriots were for twenty years. 172 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: And it's interesting if. 173 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: You look at the eight year period that the Patriots 174 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: went to the AFC title game every year right from 175 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: twenty eleven to twenty eighteen. In four of those eight years, 176 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: the Patriots actually started two and two, and the idea 177 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: was that they were so good they knew they were 178 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: going to be there at the end. They spent the 179 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: first month of the season trying to figure out who 180 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: they were. 181 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: Going to be and then they'd lean into that. 182 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: And it's taken the Chiefs a little longer to do 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: that this year because of the guys who are out, 184 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: Like you said, losing Worthy and the opener didn't help, 185 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: and then Rashie Rice has got the six game suspension. 186 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: You've got a rookie left tackle. So to me, like 187 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: this really is going to be about what it looks 188 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: like in week seven, week eight, when you have Rice back, 189 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: when you have Worthy healthy, when you have Josh Simmons 190 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: at left tackle with some games under his belt. To me, 191 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: that's the real litmus test is they're looking at it 192 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: now and saying we like, we know we're a work 193 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: in progress. It's going to be about where we can 194 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: take that work. 195 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: In progress over a month, over two months. 196 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: And it's actually interesting they at halftime yesterday at the 197 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: meadow Lands, they met as an offense in the locker 198 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: room and basically, I'm not gonna say it was like 199 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: a come to Jesus meeting, but the coaches sat down 200 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: with the players and said, we need to stop trying 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: trying to do too much. We need to play each 202 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: play for itself, like play play by play. That's how 203 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: we're going to try how we're going to attack the 204 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: rest of this game. And I think you did see 205 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: a little bit of a calmer Patrick Mahomes, a little 206 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: bit of a more level offense the rest of the way. 207 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: And to me, the proof is in the pudding with 208 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: with with. 209 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: How Mahomes played. 210 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: And I think one stat to look at over the 211 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: first three three weeks is his rushing attempts, because you 212 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: know things aren't right with Kansas City when Mahomes is 213 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: running the ball a lot. They were really high in 214 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: week one, really high. 215 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: In week two. 216 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: This week they got that number down to five. Five 217 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: rushing attempts for Patrick Mahomes and three of them were 218 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: kneel down. So I do think they think they're slowly 219 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: moving in the right direction. 220 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays. 221 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: It's noon Eastern, not a Empacific. 222 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 223 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: five to. 224 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 6: Seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing. 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Listen to over Promise 248 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 7: with Cadino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts 249 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 250 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: So this is awful, Nick Bosa season ending torn acl Yeah, 251 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: well that's awful. 252 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: Not good not good boys. 253 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: Any is any organization suffered more injuries than saying, I 254 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: don't even know how to explain it. I don't know 255 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: what that bad luck. I mean, some of their players 256 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: are older, They've got a lot of mileage on the tires. 257 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: Oh that is a yeah. 258 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: Some of this is that, like some of it is 259 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, you're you are a little bit older and 260 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: you do have a little bit of an older core. 261 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: So yes, you know, when you are relying on a 262 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: bunch of guys that are a little further on now, 263 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: Nick is younger than someone, but he does have injury history. 264 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle or clearly on the back 265 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: end of their careers. You know, if you're relying on 266 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: guys in key spots like that, these things can happen. 267 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: I will say, like they deserve a lot of credit 268 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: for getting to three and oh without Kittle with out 269 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: party for a couple of weeks. Bosa goes down in 270 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: game yesterday, So there's a belief that they're going to 271 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: get better over the course of the year. You know, 272 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: just having to talked to the players and coaches there 273 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: that the feeling is that because they are playing so 274 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: many rookies on defense and because they should get some 275 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: of these guys back on offense Kittle Iyuk, that they 276 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: they've got a chance to be a much different team 277 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: come week sixteen or Week seventeen or week eighteen. But 278 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean, losing Nick Bosa is a massive, massive blow. Yeah. 279 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: They were the fourth oldest team coming into the season, 280 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: so that's just awful, awful. You know, I thought it 281 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: was mostly Caleb and Benn, but the Cowboys se wars 282 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: are really bad on the back end. I mean, I 283 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: don't know how Dj Moore, Cole Commit and Roma Dounje 284 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: get that open. So some of it's just Dallas without 285 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Micah not a consistent pass rush. But it did look 286 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: like Albert they I thought the drive at the end 287 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: of the first half and beginning of the third, there 288 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: was a there was some harmony, like it was layered. 289 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: It was screen game run, game play action. Like I thought, 290 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: it looked like a real offense, a layered NFL offense. 291 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, it. 292 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: Started to look more coherent, and I think slowly, but 293 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: surely you're starting to see Caleb play on time a 294 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: little bit more now. 295 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 296 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: To me, it was like it goes back to that 297 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: that that it was a Monday night or a Sunday 298 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 3: night game in August that they played. It was a 299 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: preseason game against Buffalo. I can't remember what which, but 300 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: it's a primetime game. And to me, the most encouraging 301 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: thing about that game was how basketball was coming out 302 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: of Caleb Williams hands, Like Ben Johnson had really gotten 303 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams to trust what he was looking at rather 304 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: than defaulting to pulling the ball down and running around 305 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: and trying to make something happen. And you know, I 306 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: it was discouraging then to see that kind of disappear 307 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: in week one, but I think, but surely you're starting 308 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: to see it come back now. 309 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: There's a lot of volume to Ben Johnson's offense. 310 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: There's a lot for these guys to learn, and there 311 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: are going to be some bumps as a result. Of 312 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: that as they figure out what they're really good at, 313 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: as they figure out what they want to lean into. 314 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: And I think they're still in the middle of that process. 315 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: And you know, I think the best thing you can 316 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: say is like each week it feels like Caleb is 317 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: playing on time. 318 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: A little bit more. 319 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: Each week, it looks like the offense is running according 320 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: to plan. Each week, you're starting to see a little 321 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: bit more creativity, which to me shows a little bit 322 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: more trust from the coaches to the players and what 323 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: they're doing. And so, you know, I think I think 324 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: there's there's reason for encouragement that the Bears are going 325 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: to continue to grow this way. But it was always 326 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: going to take time because of what Ben Johnson's offense is. 327 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: And has been over the years. 328 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: And you know, he made the point to me over 329 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: the summer that nobody was really scrutinizing it that closely 330 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: when he first became the OC and Detroit, but it 331 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: didn't always looked right there, and we know what that became. 332 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: So they have high hopes that they're eventually going to 333 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: get there with the Bears. 334 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: Finally, I don't you know, it's one of those things. 335 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: As the season is now seventeen games and starters don't 336 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: play a lot in the preseason. Everybody's going to have 337 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: a clunker. The Eagles had a clunker in the first half, 338 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: came back to win. They had a clunker, I would 339 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: say in the first game against Dallas. They didn't play 340 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: particularly well Green Bay yesterday, I'm like, listen, they did 341 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: ten nothing. It was the fourth they had a really 342 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: bad pick. I don't make much of it. I just 343 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: kind of this is not college football. You're just going 344 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: to bake in an upset. That's how I look at it. 345 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: Do you see it differently, No, I mean you would 346 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: like to see the offense playing with a little bit 347 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: more rhythm, But that's a damn good Cleveland defense. Like, yeah, 348 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how much people have paid attention to this, 349 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: but it really looks like they hit on on the 350 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: two defensive players they took in the first two rounds 351 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: in Mason Graham as a d lineman and then Carson 352 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: Schwestinger looks like a star oh Lo stud Yeah, And 353 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: so you add those guys to what you've already got 354 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: in Miles Garrett, Denzel Ward and Jim Schwartz pushing the 355 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: buttons and they've been really good through three weeks, and 356 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: so you know, I think you can chop chalk part 357 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: of green bay struggles on offense yesterday up to that. 358 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: You know, obviously you know the block kicked. 359 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: There's some things down the stretch of the game there 360 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: that you don't want to see if you're Matt Lafloor. 361 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: But like you said, like these our long seasons and 362 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: these things can happen, and sometimes you go on the 363 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: road against a team that that that's really desperate and 364 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: you lay an egg. 365 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: And I think that's sort of what happened. 366 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: And there should be plenty of motivation for the Packers 367 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: coming back this week because you know where they're going 368 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: on Sunday night, and you know that their best player 369 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: is probably gonna probably going to be pretty excited to 370 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: get back there. 371 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 372 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the first half will be interesting, maybe not 373 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: the same in the fourth quarters. The Monday morning quarterback. 374 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: The great Albert Breer result is my man thing. 375 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, all right, thanks Colin. 376 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't want to get you know, this 377 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: is not a this is not like a college underdog 378 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: winning or something. You know, It's like it's like Cleveland's 379 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: got a defense. They got a really good head coach. 380 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, if Flacco cracks me up like he could, 381 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: just I feel like Joe Flacco could be taking a 382 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: nap at forty four years old. Get off the couch, 383 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: warm up the old soup bone, come in and complete 384 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: twenty five passes. I mean, just a guy's seen every 385 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: defense in the league. Listen, Green Bay was up ten 386 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: to nothing. I mean, they had it, but they just 387 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't come in with a lot of juice. And you 388 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: know they're they're probably looking at that Cowboy game. Mike 389 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: certainly is Jmack with the news. 390 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 4: No, no, this is the herd Line News. 391 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 8: Oh Colin, I don't know about this segment. I'm very 392 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 8: upset about this Diners news. Let's get started with the 393 00:17:53,920 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 8: Monday night football matchup Lions Ravens Tonight. Both teams and 394 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 8: over forty points last week in their respective blowout wins. 395 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 8: We will see how Aiden Hutchison and company try to 396 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 8: contain Lamar Jackson. 397 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: Lamar is one of those guys that would be be 398 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 4: fun to sack. So we're gonna, you know, execute the 399 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 4: game plan and get after it. But again, that would 400 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: be to be a fun one for sure. 401 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Good luck not easy. 402 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson's career just has to be a misprint. His 403 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 8: career on Monday Night football. Forget the seven and two 404 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 8: twenty five total touchdowns, zero interception. 405 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: How is that even possible? 406 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the data tells you take take Baltimore, but 407 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: they've got They've got Kansas City coming up. And I 408 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: just I always feel like when Lamar faces an NFC team, 409 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: he is just a handful. I love watching him play. 410 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: I love raven games. I think Buffalo and Baltimore are 411 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: the two best watches in the league, all sensive machines, 412 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: less Aaron Rodgers. Please Colin, let me just put this 413 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: a perspective. 414 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 8: So Lamar, based on those stats, is being called the 415 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 8: best quarterback in the history of Monday night football. Yeah, 416 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 8: who's ever appeared like you know, I guess there's a 417 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 8: minimum of games or whatever. 418 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. 419 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 8: So you know, at school, your kids make friends and 420 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 8: then you meet the parents. 421 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: Can you imagine meeting Lamar. 422 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 8: Jackson and he's like, yeah, I had a pretty good 423 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 8: run on Monday Night Football. No, You're the greatest quarterback 424 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 8: in the history of Monday Night football. And we get 425 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 8: to see him tonight against the Lions. Hey, I like 426 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 8: Raven's here big, I'll go by seven or ten. 427 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, same here, We feel the same way. 428 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the crappy news. 429 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 8: Now, forty nine ers get the dub yesterday improved to 430 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 8: three and oh they got fortunate to beat Arizona without 431 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 8: brock Perty. 432 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: Obviously. 433 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 8: The big news breaking here in the last like twelve 434 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 8: minutes is Nick Bosa, who got destroyed there is out 435 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 8: for the season with a torn acl You know, he's 436 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 8: signaling to his family in the stands bad news. He 437 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 8: knew it instantly. You see the thumbs down there. It 438 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 8: just sucks. Sorry to use that word. I'm I'm looking 439 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 8: at the defensive front. You know, Robert Sala likes to 440 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 8: rotate a lot of guys in right, they just don't 441 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 8: have enough guys. Well, they got like a new defense. 442 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 8: This is you know, I had them tier one in 443 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 8: my Super Bowl list. I don't think they could win 444 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 8: a Super Bowl without Mooza. 445 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you hate to say it was predictable, 446 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: but my big take on San Francisco I said in 447 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: the offseason, I can think two things. I can love 448 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: the organization. But I think they're an old team, seventeen 449 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: game schedule, and they're best players, you know, Trent and 450 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Bosa and McCaffrey and Kittle. This is Fred Warner's now 451 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: been healthy. But you know they've got some young guys. 452 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: They're hitting a couple draft picks. Ricky pearsall wide receiver, 453 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: has been a nice player for him. Yeah, he's he 454 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: had a. 455 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: UK's coming back soon, like they got gout. 456 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna be I think they're gonna be better offensively 457 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: when Brock pretty returns and Brandon and a Uk. I 458 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: think they'll be a really interesting offense. They're gonna have 459 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: to win with offense, though. I mean, Bosa is he's 460 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: a game wrecker. He's the kind of guy an offensive coordinator. 461 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: He's the one guy you spend the whole week saying 462 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: we've got to block him. So their defense, I don't 463 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: know what the splits are, but they've already played games 464 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: this year in San Francisco without George Kittle, broad Perty, 465 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Jawan Jennings, Brandon. I you now, Nick Bosa like this 466 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: is their reality the last four years. So let me 467 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: ask you. I don't know if you can get Shanahan 468 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: or Lynch on the phone. But if they feel. 469 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 8: This is a super Bowl team, went healthy and the 470 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 8: schedule's favorable, and they can get the number one seed 471 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 8: because the schedule is favorable. A lot of bad quarterbacks 472 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 8: on that list. Do you make a move at the deadline? 473 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 8: Do we add the Niners now and say, hey, uh Cleveland, 474 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 8: you're going nowhere? 475 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: Do you get can we get mouth Garrett? 476 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, do you call the Raiders and 477 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: say we'll give you a first for Max Crosby? 478 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? I listen, all that stuff has to be and play. 479 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 8: Jeffrey Simmons of the Detroit nine to Tennessee Titans, do 480 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 8: you make I don't know, Like, do you are these 481 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 8: things you consider if you believe. 482 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: This is a super Bowl team? 483 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Now? 484 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 8: I think when Kittle comes back and I you and party, 485 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 8: all of a sudden, the burdens off McCaffrey and they're 486 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 8: gonna start rolling some folks. 487 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: But defensively, it's just. 488 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 489 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 4: Are they still in your upper crust in the NFC column? 490 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's I don't I mean, if I had 491 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: to do a maybe I'll do a Super Bowl bubble tomorrow. 492 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't. 493 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: I mean both the Rams ahead of him. 494 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I think the Rams are a more complete roster, younger, healthier. Yes, 495 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: I think the Rams are above the Rams will be 496 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: in my top five or six. 497 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 8: But now the Lions, well, let's see what the Lions 498 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 8: do tonight. That's right, Yeah, all right, final story. Oh 499 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 8: go ahead, we'll just do the final story here. College football, 500 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 8: your trojans, we got to hit him again every hour 501 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 8: because it's your team. You'll be traveling on the team 502 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 8: bus to the Illinois game this weekend. USC now four 503 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 8: and oh your guy Jordan, my APPA five tuddies. I 504 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 8: saw that play and I was like, oh, this guy's 505 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: got something. 506 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: I hit the wide receiver and stride. 507 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 8: This their best start since Lincoln Riley took over in 508 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 8: twenty twenty two. 509 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: Well, big game on Foxes Nay. 510 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: They went into the transfer portal and they went and 511 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: found a couple of running backs Jordan and Sanders. And 512 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: they weren't high profile guys. One guy was a junior college. 513 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: They are running the ball as well as they have 514 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: run it. And I'm not joking. I mean you'd have 515 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: to go back to Bush and Lendale White. They're running 516 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: the ball with Waymon, Jordan, and Sanders. They have like 517 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: four running backs they can play and the offensive lines 518 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: got size. This offense is interesting because the quarterback moves 519 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: really well, so it's not an easy and they have 520 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: two absolute Sunday players at wide receiver lane and Lemon, 521 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: so they've got they've got NFL players on the perimeter. 522 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: But they're really a run team and the great thing 523 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: about that is what they weren't last year. Remember, they 524 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: led all though the they Penn State Maryland a lot 525 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: of the games they lost last year, but they could 526 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: not seal the wins because they couldn't run the ball. 527 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: This team is getting leads, going to the ground, running 528 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: out the clock. So they're not very good defensively at corner, 529 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: like you can throw the ball in this team. They 530 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: have a better D line, but they're pretty average at corner. 531 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: But what they are is what they weren't last year, 532 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: is they can run the ball. So if they get leads, 533 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: they can milk the clock and eat the clock. And 534 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: that's what they could not do. Remember they beat A 535 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: and M last year, they beat LSU last year. They 536 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: should have beaten Penn State last year. This is not 537 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: a terrible team, but they blew games because they had 538 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: a lead in the fourth and couldn't run the clock out. 539 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 8: It feels like your transfer portal's aspect is interesting because 540 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 8: remember two years ago they spent lavishly like drunken sailors, 541 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 8: and you and I were hanging out at a certain 542 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 8: watering hole with someone from USC and I remember hearing 543 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 8: the numbers they were spending. Oh yeah, I was like, 544 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 8: that is unsustainable. But now they've kind of harnessed it 545 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 8: all together and be like, let's be smarter, let's not 546 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 8: just throw I. 547 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: Think last year after the season was over, I mean, 548 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: I know this for sure is Lincoln Riley wanted to 549 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: get bigger and develop a more dependable run game because 550 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: their take was in the Big Ten. They feel they 551 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: can score with people, but you got to close out 552 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: these games, and in the Big Ten, the weather cools. 553 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: You gotta run the football, and they have. Lincoln has 554 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: done a great job. They have rebuilt this run. And 555 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I thought when they lost Woody Marx, I was like, oh, 556 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: they're in trouble because Woody was so good for them 557 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: last year. They didn't have a lot behind him. This 558 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: is a deep talented running back room and they are 559 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: they can power run it, which they could not do 560 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: the first couple of years of Lincoln. 561 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: Illinois though, coming off what a forty point loss. 562 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 8: There's are always dangerous and you can't expect to go 563 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 8: into Champagne Illinois and just get an easy dub right. 564 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's a that's a touchdown game. 565 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hostile territory, I'm sure. 566 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's very cynical. Hey, one of the loudest places 567 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: in college football. 568 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: Hopefully they can pull out a win USC by ten. 569 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: Here's Illinois problem. USC's pass rush is good, and so 570 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: far this year, Illinois OH line is not protecting the quarterback. 571 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: So us' is gonna look at the film right now 572 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: and they're going to see it very quickly. USC's D 573 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: line is going to be a problem for Illinois's O line. 574 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: So Illinois is gonna have to run the football to win. 575 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: If they get into third and long, Illinois in big trouble. 576 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: Jmck with the news. 577 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. 578 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: The herd line news. 579 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah that my staff. Just USC has the most sacks 580 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: of any FBS team, tied with Oklahoma, Maryland and Buffalo Oklahoma. 581 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: You've seen Oklahoma's quarterback j Mack. 582 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 8: But here, yeah, I got I got some people telling 583 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 8: me he's really worth the price of admission, like, yeah, 584 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 8: could be a first round pick. 585 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Ye oh no, No, everybody's been disappointing except the kid 586 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: at South Carolina and Matier. Those two look the part. 587 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: They look Oregon. Dante Moore can spin it. He can 588 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: spin it. He was a five star recruit. I think 589 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: out of Michigan High School in Michigan. All right, lives 590 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: in Chicago. 591 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 8: It's the Herd. 592 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 593 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: in noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 594 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 595 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: We were talking about the Chiefs last night. It was 596 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: kind of a dot of a game. But since the 597 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: start of last season, just just think about this about 598 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: how Kansas City is struggled since the start of last season. 599 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes has fewer passing touchdowns than Aaron Rodgers with the 600 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Jets and the Steelers, fewer big passing plays than c. J. Stroud, 601 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: who has struggled in a quarterback rating lower than Tua. 602 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: So after the first half last night, it was ugly 603 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: and Albert Breers said the offense had a little meeting 604 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: at halftime. 605 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 3: At halftime yesterday at the Meadowlands, they met as an 606 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: offense in the locker room, and basically, I'm not gonna 607 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: say it was like a come to Jesus meeting, but 608 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: the coaches sat down with the players and said, we 609 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: need to stop trying trying to. 610 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: Do too much. 611 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: We need to play each play for itself, like play 612 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: by play. That's how we're going to try how we're 613 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: going to attack the rest of this game. 614 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: And I think you did see. 615 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: A little bit of a calmer Patrick Mahomes, a little 616 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: bit of a more level offense the rest of the way. 617 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, they won, but the problem being, the Chargers 618 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: are now three and zero all division wins. The Chargers 619 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: have beating the Raiders, now the Broncos and the Chiefs, 620 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: so as Kansas City is struggling to create a run 621 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: game and protect Patrick Mahomes and waiting for their best 622 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: two receivers to get healthy, the Chargers keep winning. Now. 623 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: The good news, the Broncos have found ways to lose 624 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: the last two weekends, But listen, the Chargers feel like 625 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: they have surpassed, at least for the time being, the 626 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs in an offensive league. They are struggling 627 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: twenty second time of possession right now and with no 628 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: run game. That means your defense is on the field longer. 629 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: Your defense statistically gets hurt more than your offensive players. 630 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: So they need Worthy back, Rice back. They have got 631 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: to improve their time of possession and third down efficiency 632 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: to keep their defense off the field because they are 633 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: living right now on that defense. Meanwhile, Matt Hasselbeck stopped by, 634 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: say what you want. I know nobody wants to give 635 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams credit, But I just think sometimes you watch 636 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: a game and it passes the eye test. And I 637 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: thought the scream game, the run game, the trick plays, 638 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: the rhythm, the harmony. I thought it looked good. I 639 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: think Chicago's got a lot offensive talent. Their issue was 640 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: getting all of them the ball. Loveland, Burden, Dunza, DJ 641 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Moore kind of disappears, Swift, Cole Comet. Even their backups 642 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: are capable. So here here's what Matt Hasselbeck said he 643 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: thought about the performance by Caleb. 644 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 9: This was easily Caleb Williams's best game as a pro. 645 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: Easily. It was fun to watch. 646 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 9: If you're a Bears fan, you're like, oh, shoot, this 647 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 9: is sick, like this is what we could be Ben Johnson. 648 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 9: I mean he is like you see why he was 649 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 9: so good in this division, going up against guys like 650 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 9: Matt Eberflus, like he knew the division. I think there 651 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 9: is something nice about game planning people that you actually know. 652 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 9: Usually touchdown passes are hard to come by, you know, 653 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 9: usually guys end up on the ground. A lot of 654 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 9: times these were stand up, nobody near me type touchdowns. 655 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 9: It was an impressive, impressive win for Chicago and equally 656 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 9: is embarrassing for Dallas. 657 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dallas is in big trouble. So ceedee. Lamb is out. 658 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: He will not play against green Bay and I don't 659 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: June with the number. I would guess the numbers gotta 660 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: be fifteen points for green Bay. 661 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 4: Stop it? Come on? 662 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: Is it so? 663 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: Todder? 664 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 8: Archer just announced Lamb could miss three to four weeks. 665 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 8: I see Packers minus six and a half on the road. 666 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'd take Green Bay to them six 667 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: and a half. 668 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: You don't like that. I'm sure it's gonna go up. 669 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 8: I mean, Lamb is I know the quarterbacks are worth 670 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 8: the most points. 671 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: And first of all, he was coaching staff mismatch. Yes, 672 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: green Bay just played terribly un lost. They're gonna be bitter. 673 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Mike is gonna have the game of his career. Ceede 674 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: if you take ceedee, lamb out they don't have game breakers. 675 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: That is a I can't believe that line. 676 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 8: Probably gonna go up at six and a half. Seven, 677 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 8: it's probably gonna go up. But again, it's a back 678 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 8: to back road games for the Packers. Okay, that's never easy. 679 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 8: Dallas coming off an embarrassing loss. 680 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, Dallas lost. Green Bay is coming 681 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: off the embarrassing loss to Cleveland and they've played with 682 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: no energy. 683 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 8: Jordan Love probably feels like, Hey, if I don't throw 684 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 8: that pick, we win with three. And oh remember the 685 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 8: guy on the Packers last week, we did a segment 686 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 8: on it said that they could go undefeated. 687 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: You remember that. I guess you don't. One of the Packers. 688 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: Players said, yeah, if you all lock in the Green 689 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Bay right now, is that the number for your picks? 690 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: So I see six and a half. Now, you got 691 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: to check with the staff, you know, I don't know 692 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: if you're what are you going to get your life from? 693 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: I will lock in Green Bay right now, I sometimes 694 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: when my son invests in stocks, I say, whatever you do, 695 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: I'll match it. 696 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: So I'll match your bet and I will officially put 697 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: in for headlines. Packers beat the Cowboys six and a half. 698 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Green Bay's got the embarrassing loss advantage, 699 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: quarterback advantage, staff advantage, roster advantage, and ceedee lamb you 700 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: take him out. They just don't. They don't have any 701 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: game breaker. 702 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: Javonte Williams. He's gonna suit up in the backfield. 703 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: He's fine. He's got a. 704 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 8: Bad fumble on the sideline. 705 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: The first thing's first is net