WEBVTT - Hour 1 – NBA All-Star Tanking, Chris Simms

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<v Speaker 2>join us on loan from NBC Football Night in America

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<v Speaker 2>as we look at the off season with the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>positions and who's going to try to fill those voids

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<v Speaker 2>with free agency or the draft. So Chris will join

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<v Speaker 2>us in twenty minutes from now, Chris mannix covering the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about tanking and also the All Star Game

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<v Speaker 2>coming up this weekend. This is not going as scripted

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<v Speaker 2>for the NBA because I thought the World versus the

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<v Speaker 2>United States was a wonderful approach, maybe a last ditched

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<v Speaker 2>approach to have a little bit of competition with the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star festivities. But now you've got a few players

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<v Speaker 2>who won't be playing in the game. Kevin Durant was

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<v Speaker 2>asked a question yesterday. I'll give you the question and

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<v Speaker 2>his answer and then we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you saw the rosters were revealed and said,

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<v Speaker 3>you're on that Old Heads team.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think the Old Heads will compete and try

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<v Speaker 4>to win the whole tournament?

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<v Speaker 5>Here?

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<v Speaker 6>You should ask the Europeans the World team if they're

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<v Speaker 6>going to compete. I mean, because if we look at

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<v Speaker 6>Luka Dancis and Nicole oki Is, now let's go back

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<v Speaker 6>and look at what they do at the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that competition? So we have a questioned what they've

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<v Speaker 6>been doing. But we're gonna question old his in the Americans.

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<v Speaker 6>But these two dudes out there Luca and Yochas. They

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<v Speaker 6>don't care about the game. Man, Oh, these dudes be

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<v Speaker 6>laying on the floor. They shoot from half court. But

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<v Speaker 6>you got worried about the old heads playing hard. I

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<v Speaker 6>can read between the lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Oh Durant. He's funny. He's funny, he's feisty. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's a fair point. He's saying we play hard.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why Joker doesn't play hard in the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Game is that's not his style. The All

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<v Speaker 2>Star the way that's played up and down, dunking, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not his style. Luca, that's not his style. So he

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<v Speaker 2>might single them out as not playing hard. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>guess if they are playing this weekend in the All

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<v Speaker 2>Star Game, they will play hard because they're playing for

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<v Speaker 2>their country or countries. And I think you'll see a

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<v Speaker 2>more spirited I hope it is, and I'm not asking

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<v Speaker 2>too much. It's not going to be the way it

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<v Speaker 2>once was, but I would like to see some competition

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe we'll get that with this format. We're running

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<v Speaker 2>out of ideas when it comes to the All Star Game,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not mandatory or the future of the sports

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<v Speaker 2>at stake. You know it's like the Pro Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said that for years, they don't want to play

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<v Speaker 2>in it. When it was in Hawaii. You wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be awarded the opportunity to go to Hawaii with your

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<v Speaker 2>family and oh, by the way, we'll show up, run

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<v Speaker 2>through a couple of plays.

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<v Speaker 7>Hopefully we don't get hurt. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You just wanted the designation of being a pro bowler

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<v Speaker 2>with the All Star Game. Do I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>them go out and maybe make it like Olympic competition.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to, but it's not going to happen. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you get something that is a reasonable facsimile of

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<v Speaker 2>a pickup basketball game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Seaton, Yeah, I think the first problem is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make this mean something. Yes, that's the first problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So that already were starting from like a deficit there,

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<v Speaker 3>don't Do you think the NBA did enough to get

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<v Speaker 3>the format the tweaks to the format out there so

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<v Speaker 3>people understand what this All Star Game is going to look.

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<v Speaker 7>Like because it is significantly different. Well, you have three teams.

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<v Speaker 7>You have two teams from the United States and then

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<v Speaker 7>you have the World team, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what that each You basically play like twelve

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<v Speaker 3>minute quarters in like a round robin kind of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even understand it seedon, Well, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's complicated to understand. I just don't think that people

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<v Speaker 3>know that it's changed that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that you have three different teams and the quarters

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<v Speaker 2>even then like I'm going to tune in and go, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe explain this to me a little bit further.

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<v Speaker 7>But I thought it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you have three teams and you have

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<v Speaker 2>one game, but try to combine three teams into one game,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the All Star weekend, and then you have

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<v Speaker 2>the rising stars and now we just found out that

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag is not going to be playing in that

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't going as scripted for. And then you got

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<v Speaker 2>the commissioner who is going to be under fire this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend about tanking because these teams they're not hiding it anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, yeah, you know, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna play our starters until the third quarter when that ends,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're gonna sit them down.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey we might win, we might not.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just feels like it's well it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a growing concern. It's a concern here. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine what David Stern would be doing right now

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<v Speaker 2>if he was the commissioner. Maybe it's not fair to

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Silver, but David Stern would not be putting up

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<v Speaker 2>with this.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't even know what you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, all the media rights. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a total of like seventy billion dollars over the next

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years. They're swimming in money. They don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with all the money that they're making. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm a player, and let's say I applied this

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<v Speaker 2>to Larry Bird. Larry Bird tried to eke out a

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<v Speaker 2>ten year career back issues and he had to retire.

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<v Speaker 2>What if Larry Bird played today and he did have

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<v Speaker 2>a back condition, and I could maybe get fourteen years

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<v Speaker 2>out of Larry Bird instead of ten, and maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>played sixty five games, wouldn't you want that? Do I

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<v Speaker 2>want Steph Curry to be able to play longer? Do

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<v Speaker 2>I want Kevin Durant to be able to play longer?

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James to be able to play longer? And the

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<v Speaker 2>answer is yes, I don't think the NBA cares about us.

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<v Speaker 2>If we say the following, well, I go to one

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<v Speaker 2>game a year. The NBA doesn't care about that. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we do as you know parents, where you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to bring my kids to a game, but

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA is worried about filling up the seats every

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<v Speaker 2>single night. They want repeat customers, They want the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are going to show up. And then you got

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<v Speaker 2>the TV money as well flowing in. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I got Commissioner Silver in a private moment

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<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, if you're looking at the longevity of

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<v Speaker 2>great players like Cooper Flag, he's going to have load

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<v Speaker 2>management at some point in his career.

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<v Speaker 7>They all do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, at nineteen, you can run all day, but he

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<v Speaker 2>gets to be twenty six, now seven years, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on those legs, and then maybe you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>load management. It happens. But if I can extend Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>Flag four more years by limiting him and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he's only playing in sixty five, maybe seventy games,

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be a badge of courage, like you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to play as many games as possible. Charles Barkley

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<v Speaker 2>won the MVP of the All Star Game and he

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<v Speaker 2>played on a stress fracture.

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<v Speaker 7>He shouldn't have been playing in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine Michael Jordan breaks his foot and then comes back

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you're going to play the Celtics who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to beat you in the playoffs. They never

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<v Speaker 2>would have let Michael Jordan back intoday's NBA. They just

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't because they'd say, that doesn't make any sense. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to sit you down, we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the lottery, we're going to tank, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be better.

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<v Speaker 7>So the philosophy has shifted.

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<v Speaker 2>I never ever worried when I tuned into a game

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<v Speaker 2>if the stars were going to play or not. Growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great luxury. And about ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little longer than that, it all changed. But

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it from a player's perspective. If I can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine if you add four more years to Steph Curry's career,

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe it would have ended.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, at thirty six, that's over a one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>and thirty million dollars by just being economical, smart, taking

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<v Speaker 7>care of yourself, getting your rest. And I know we

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<v Speaker 7>don't like it, but you know, we're in a completely

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<v Speaker 7>different world what it was like when we were growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Bill Russell played every game and Bob Coosey

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<v Speaker 2>played every game. Yes, but in today's NBA, they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at this from a business perspective. The NBA has business

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<v Speaker 2>and entertainment, but the player is thinking about I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sit out.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, look at Yannis. He's had a calf.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how serious it is, but he's been

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<v Speaker 2>out for a while, and we don't even blink anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, such and such isn't playing like Kawhi. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always surprised.

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<v Speaker 7>When Kawhi's playing, being like, oh, and Kawhi is having

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<v Speaker 7>an unbelievable year he is, Yes, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 4>But also you got to put this on the team

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<v Speaker 4>also because they're protecting their investment, because these guys are

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<v Speaker 4>making so much money. Hey, this guy has a stress

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<v Speaker 4>fracture or he has a bad calf. They're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to throw him out there. Hey, let's keep him out

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<v Speaker 4>here in an extra two games.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I get it. I get it that this

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<v Speaker 2>is it's business. It's our entertainment, but it's their business. Yeah, Pauling,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 8>You're completely right about it. It's like a ship that's

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<v Speaker 8>going one way and you can't turn it around. But

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<v Speaker 8>if you look at what most fans think of it,

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<v Speaker 8>they compare it to the NFL, and they'll always compare

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<v Speaker 8>the NBA, which is considered not as rough and brutal

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<v Speaker 8>as a sport, fair to say. And they sit out

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<v Speaker 8>all the time, and football players they can't sit out

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<v Speaker 8>because they have fewer games. But if you look at

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<v Speaker 8>the ratings of the NBA finals the past fifteen years

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<v Speaker 8>and load management they match each other, the finals keep

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<v Speaker 8>going down and down and down compared to a generation ago,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's a real problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Seeden.

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<v Speaker 3>I think from the team perspective too though, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably important to remember that when you're the team,

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<v Speaker 3>and yes, you're protecting your investment, but no one is

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<v Speaker 3>bigger than the team. The team is going to keep

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<v Speaker 3>going on after all of these people retire. There's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>after Larry Bird, there's always going to be another Jason Tatum,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there's going to be another guy. There's always

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<v Speaker 3>going to be another guy that comes down the pike.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what teams are thinking about. This one guy

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<v Speaker 3>is not bigger than the team. I don't really care

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<v Speaker 3>who they are. They're not bigger than it's Lebron James

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<v Speaker 3>is not bigger than the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but you want to extend them. You want them

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<v Speaker 7>to play four more years.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, you want them to play four more years, for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but also not to the point where the team feels

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<v Speaker 3>like we need you more than you need us.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll settle on a poll question here. Chris Sims will

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<v Speaker 2>join us. We'll look at some of these quarterback situations here.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, there's some wild things that are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they're not really reports, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a what what was the word you used, Paulie

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<v Speaker 2>where we try to get around saying it's a report linked, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>link to ye linked.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know there was an article.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was on the mother Ship,

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<v Speaker 2>but it talks about Joe Burrow and being linked to

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<v Speaker 2>other teams. And you're going, okay, wow, what's And I

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<v Speaker 2>said to Fritzy, all right, read it to me and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, I said, where's the Joe Burrow stuff? He goes, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the second you know part of the art.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Trey Hendrickson about Coles Cowboys, what teams is gonna

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<v Speaker 7>go to? And then a little bourg towards the end

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<v Speaker 7>is like about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 7>He's different to his quarterback.

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<v Speaker 8>But what is that, Yeah, Paul, it is from Yahoo Sports.

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<v Speaker 8>Bengals already have Trey Hendrickson replacement lined up amid Joe

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<v Speaker 8>Burrow trade rumors as if they go together at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you read it and then they say the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals aren't trading Joe Burrow. But it's that link and

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<v Speaker 2>then you click on it. It's clickbait and they got me,

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<v Speaker 2>they got me. That's where you want to respond to somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you want to yell at somebody like I

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<v Speaker 2>stop that, you're better than that, But no, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to click up, yeah, pauling.

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<v Speaker 8>A big thing in journalism air quotes these days is

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<v Speaker 8>say link to It's in Lewis saying there's a report

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<v Speaker 8>that Trey Hendrickson is being pursued by blank blank. Like

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<v Speaker 8>if you said today that you know what would be

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<v Speaker 8>a great place for Joe Burrow to be the Miami Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 8>they would use you and say link to the Dolphins. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>and they tag it to Dan Patrick when you're not reporting.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that would be good. Though, if Joe Burrow went

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<v Speaker 7>to the Dolphins, you just aggregated yourself. They were all

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<v Speaker 7>in on him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was weird that we had heard that

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<v Speaker 2>leading up to the draft they were going to offer

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<v Speaker 2>like five first round picks for Joe Burrow in Miami

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<v Speaker 2>and then of course the Bengals you know, took him.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then it came out like earlier this year

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<v Speaker 2>that the the Dolphins were trying to get Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>at the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, this is old news.

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<v Speaker 2>They they did, they desperately wanted to get Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you got Tua. Maybe you don't even have

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<v Speaker 2>ta So we'll talk to Chris Simms about a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these situations here because they're fluid. You're not quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure we know what the Raiders are doing. But after that,

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<v Speaker 2>is there a quarterback that somebody's going to go all

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<v Speaker 2>in on and say that's our future? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see that. The parade yesterday, it was great to see

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<v Speaker 2>probably eight hundred thousand their beautiful day there in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>They're feisty, the Seahawks are got that chip on their

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders still, you know, don't come at us and don't

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<v Speaker 2>be saying something about my quarterback. And Sam Donald is

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<v Speaker 2>just like, hey, thank you for believing in me, there

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<v Speaker 2>weren't a lot of people believed in Sam Donald when

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<v Speaker 2>they brought Sam Donald in. To be fair to the

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<v Speaker 2>situation here, if you go back to when Sam was

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<v Speaker 2>going to Seattle, it's not like it was, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>we got Sam Donald. It was wait, we got rid

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<v Speaker 2>of Gino and we got Sam Donald. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people said that. A lot of people said that, all right,

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<v Speaker 7>You get your podcasts. Seaton Poll question, first hour, what

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<v Speaker 7>are you thinking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm sort of workshopping here one. I just got

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<v Speaker 3>to get the right number of letters to fit it in.

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<v Speaker 3>But would you rather more games per season but less seasons,

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<v Speaker 3>or more seasons but less games per Yes.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, I see where he's going. How about you could

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<v Speaker 8>have a star player on a superstar player on your

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<v Speaker 8>favorite NBA team ten years he plays eighty games a season,

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<v Speaker 8>or fifteen years for sixty five games per season as

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<v Speaker 8>an average.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's staying on my team the whole time, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm going to take the extra years.

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<v Speaker 8>Even though you get to see him less.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the time that I really care about seeing my

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<v Speaker 2>superstar player is in the postseason, and if that leads

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<v Speaker 2>to postseason success or availability, absolutely. Will I miss seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>games that he wouldn't be playing in during the regular season, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>But if that means I've got four more, five more

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities to win a championship, absolutely. Chris Sims joining us

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<v Speaker 2>on loan from Pro Football Talk Live. He's co host

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<v Speaker 2>with Mike Florio. Also was there working the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>for NBC Football Night in America. Do you think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>ever get to the point where there is load management

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I don't think so, I don't. I mean, it's just,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, the league is so close. One game is

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<v Speaker 11>equal to five games in the NBA or ten games

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<v Speaker 11>in the NFL and Major League Baseball, right, So No,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I think the only time you get to

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<v Speaker 11>load management is with certain star players. Maybe if they

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<v Speaker 11>have some injuries and teams that are smart bring them

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<v Speaker 11>along the right way. But no, I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 11>ever going to be a thing in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>Then explain to me what the Raiders did with Max

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<v Speaker 7>Crosby or is that tanking?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think that was more tanking. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>I think it was that maybe more than anything is tanking.

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<v Speaker 11>He was dealing with a little bit of injury. Maybe

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<v Speaker 11>they're saving himself from himself. But yeah, that's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>a load management thing there. The Max Crosby situation in

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<v Speaker 11>general is going to be fascinating here as we go

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<v Speaker 11>into the offseason, right because you usually sit there and go, wait,

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<v Speaker 11>you don't trade a player of the caliber of Max

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<v Speaker 11>Crosby and do that. But yet this is one of

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<v Speaker 11>those where you can look at it and justify it

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<v Speaker 11>a little bit, or at least go I could see

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<v Speaker 11>them doing it. It's twenty nine years old, as we know. Hey,

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<v Speaker 11>there's a formula in the NFL. Most defensive players hit thirty.

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<v Speaker 11>Teams don't want to give them big contracts new contracts there,

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<v Speaker 11>and the Raiders have so many needs on their football team.

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<v Speaker 11>Wouldn't be shocked if he does get traded this offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of my favorite players because he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>play and he plays hard. Right, But if I'm the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely trade him. Yeah, absolutely, you know, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>giving up on that, but I can't bring in a

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<v Speaker 2>rookie quarterback with a rookie head coach and not have

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<v Speaker 2>a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, no, I hear you there, And you gotta wonder

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<v Speaker 11>Max Crowby's got Crosby's getting to a point of his

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<v Speaker 11>career where yeah, I don't know if he wants to

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<v Speaker 11>sit around for the next two years and be a

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<v Speaker 11>part of the rebuilding process.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I'm with you there, Dan in a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's look at some of the quarterbacking situations.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the biggest question mark you have?

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<v Speaker 7>What team? What quarterback?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think the obvious one is probably Pittsburgh a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit. Just as far as where they go a

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<v Speaker 11>playoff football team, we got no idea who the quarterback

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<v Speaker 11>is going to be. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, mikeel McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 11>It didn't necessarily seem like it ended the most perfect

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<v Speaker 11>way when it was in Green Bay and now here

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<v Speaker 11>they may be thrust it back together and then off

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<v Speaker 11>of that, yes, do they bring them back, but is

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<v Speaker 11>he can understand that, like the quarterback of the future

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<v Speaker 11>is not on the roster of the Steelers, So like

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<v Speaker 11>if they bring him back, is he gonna be okay?

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<v Speaker 7>If like they draft Ty.

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<v Speaker 11>Simpson in the first round, and then if they go

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<v Speaker 11>two and five to start the year, is Ty Simpson

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<v Speaker 11>gonna be in and is he gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 11>deal with that?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 11>So I mean that to me is probably the most

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<v Speaker 11>intriguing one. I haven't thought about it as a whole

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<v Speaker 11>as a league here yet. I'm still kind of transitioning

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<v Speaker 11>at a super Bowl mode here, But I think that's

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<v Speaker 11>the one probably i'd still pick if you let me

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<v Speaker 11>think about it even more.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the Viking situation too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>right right, that's gonna be tough. No doubt. They're in

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<v Speaker 7>a spot.

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<v Speaker 11>They really are because as we talked about last year,

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<v Speaker 11>their team right was playoff ready, maybe even super Bowl ready.

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<v Speaker 11>Like I do think if Sam Donold played in the

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<v Speaker 11>Minnesota Vikings last year, yes they would have gone to

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<v Speaker 11>the playoffs. Definitely that they got to the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know about that, but yeah, they're in a

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<v Speaker 11>spot where they definitely have to bring somebody that's you know,

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<v Speaker 11>tried and true and proven to a degree, not only

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<v Speaker 11>because if JJ McCarthy gets hurt, which is gonna be

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<v Speaker 11>is becoming a thing, and if he doesn't play well,

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<v Speaker 11>you gotta have a guy there that can at least

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<v Speaker 11>come in those those scenarios and hold down the ford

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<v Speaker 11>a little bit. But I also think you need a

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<v Speaker 11>guy there to kind of have the hot poker next

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<v Speaker 11>to JJ McCarthy every day a little bit, to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 11>you gotta be good today. You gotta be good today,

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<v Speaker 11>gotta be good today. This guy's coming, he's practicing. He's

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<v Speaker 11>a pro. He knows how to practice and look good

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<v Speaker 11>in front of the rest of the football team.

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<v Speaker 7>And I do think there's value in that for young quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 7>If I said you had to extend one, Rice Young

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<v Speaker 7>or CJ.

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<v Speaker 11>Stroud, gosh, I wouldn't have gone, no brainer CJ. Stroud

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<v Speaker 11>right before the playoffs or the end of the regular season, like,

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<v Speaker 11>no brainer. But what happened in here, Chris, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 11>mean it.

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<v Speaker 7>Was questionable towards the end of the regular season.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, I've had people go, oh, they think his

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<v Speaker 11>concussion in the middle part of the year was still

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<v Speaker 11>affecting him. Right, he has been in some different offensive systems,

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<v Speaker 11>but man, he really lost his way towards the end

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<v Speaker 11>of the year, lost his way with decision making, feel

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<v Speaker 11>for the game.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the.

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<v Speaker 11>Proper type of throws forgetting what his team was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>I said to Mike Florio before, and I think this

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<v Speaker 11>is why, you know, we were kind of talking about

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<v Speaker 11>the Patriots and maybe there won't be the biggest bullseye

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<v Speaker 11>on their back because of how the playoffs and Super

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<v Speaker 11>Bowl went going in the next year. And I made

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<v Speaker 11>the comment, You're like, yeah, I mean, hey, the Chargers

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<v Speaker 11>game is underwhelming.

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<v Speaker 7>The Houston game. You kind of felt like if CJ.

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<v Speaker 11>Stroud just kneeled on the ball the whole game, Houston

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<v Speaker 11>probably would have won the football game. Just kneeled on

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<v Speaker 11>it every play, first, second down, third down, kneel on it.

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<v Speaker 11>Defense will set us up for a field position. At

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<v Speaker 11>one point we'll kick a field goal and win the

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<v Speaker 11>game that way. Like I'm joking, but I'm not joking.

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<v Speaker 11>It was that crazy. It was that bad. So I

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<v Speaker 11>sit here now, I guess giving the edge to Bryce Young,

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<v Speaker 11>but don't feel necessarily great about that. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 11>know Carolina went into the year going, hey, we like

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 11>where we're going, but we don't have our quarterback yet.

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 11>We don't really know. We don't think we got the guy.

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<v Speaker 11>We don't have the guy. Now, how he played better definitely.

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<v Speaker 11>How do they feel about that? I'm sure they feel better,

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<v Speaker 11>But I wouldn't sit here and just go, oh, we're

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<v Speaker 11>just golden at quarterback with Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not ready to say that yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the draft is kind of sparse with what

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<v Speaker 2>we think will be franchise quarterbacks. But I'm wondering about

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<v Speaker 2>Mac Jones or Malik Willis. Feels like they could get

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of I don't want to say Sam Darnold,

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.719
<v Speaker 2>but they could get that. Hey, we've gone through you know,

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 2>the washing machine a couple of times, right, maybe now

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 2>it's our turn. Now we're at an age where we

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<v Speaker 2>can handle this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I think Malik Willis is a superstar, right. I

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<v Speaker 11>would think he is the like the crowning gem of

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 11>guys that's going to be out there as far as

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<v Speaker 11>free agents that you can get no compensation trading any.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, why wouldn't Pittsburgh go for Malik Willis?

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<v Speaker 11>If I were them, I'd be looking at that. You're

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 11>you're exactly right. I mean, Malik Willis has proven I

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 11>mean he's got special talent, he has a special arm,

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 11>he's got special mobility, he knows how to run the

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<v Speaker 11>offense and do all of that. So yeah, you know,

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 11>he's a great story here and again another story of

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<v Speaker 11>like we looked at the draft and you know, again,

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 11>I was a Malik Willis fan coming out, and it's like, Okay, yeah,

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 11>I know Kenny Pickett can play in the pocket and

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 11>he's very good in the meeting room. And I'm so

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<v Speaker 11>sick of that damn dumb discussion all the time with

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<v Speaker 11>some of these quarterbacks. And I'm gonna go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>how did that meeting room and in the pocket work

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<v Speaker 11>for you, Pittsburgh Philadelphia Raiders?

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 7>You know, how about the.

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<v Speaker 11>Guy that has a ton of talent and can make

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<v Speaker 11>game changing plays, It just needs a little polish and

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 11>needs to be coached a little And that's where you

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 11>know the league misses out on guys like that.

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 7>But do you like Milake Willis more than Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 11>I It's closer than I ever thought it would be, right,

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<v Speaker 11>And I'm really a Jordan Love fan. I mean again,

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 11>I'm I'm the one that was like Jordan Love, I

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 11>think is going to be better than Tua when he

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 11>was coming out in the draft, right, So so I'm

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 11>with that, But Malik Willis, I'm not gonna say he's

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<v Speaker 11>better than Jordan Love Right now, I will say that

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 11>I think he shows more potential to be a greater

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 11>player than Jordan Love. That that's what I would say

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 11>right now, But I got to see a little bit

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 11>more before I say he's better than Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's forty million dollars cheaper, right, That helps still,

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<v Speaker 7>but he won't be forty million dollars cheaper after this

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 7>off season that I think will change. What about Mac Jones' future, Well,

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 7>Mac Jones is first off shown that he's capable of

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 7>being a starting quarterback. We know that, right, And the

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 7>guys like Shanahan and McVeigh and you know the Ben

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 7>Johnson's in the world, the guys who have these unbelievable, intricate,

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 7>hard offenses are always gonna like Mac Jones, just like

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 7>Shanahan and McVay love the Kirk Cousins of the world

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 7>and those guys because they can handle all the tricks

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 7>that they have to offer to make the offense look

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 7>tricky and awesome. Right.

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<v Speaker 11>So that's where you know there's always gonna be love

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 11>for Mac Jones. Now, he can't carry the team, right,

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 11>you put them on crappy Jacksonville for two years ago

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 11>with all that was going on there. Yeah, he's not

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 11>Josh Allen, Lamar Mahomes. They're just gonna, hey, get on

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 11>my back, guys, I'll get us through this time period here.

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 7>No, he's not that.

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 11>He needs system. He needs help, and when he does

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 11>do that, you could see he can play at a

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 11>high level. But at the same time, I don't think

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 11>the forty nine ers in Shanahan are just gonna give

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 11>him away. And not only will they have to be

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 11>blown up by the trade, but the forty nine ers,

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 11>as we know, were good and with healthy like there

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 11>might be a Super Bowl team. And I knowing my

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 11>buddy Kyle Shannan, I don't think he would leverage the

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 11>future of the team and get rid of Mac Jones

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 11>unless he's very comfortable with who his.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.239
<v Speaker 7>Backup quarterback is.

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<v Speaker 11>And I don't know if he's there with Curtis Rourke

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 11>right who came off the ACL injury, coming from Indiana

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 11>and being there and being that guy to hold down

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 11>the fort if something did happen to Brock Purdy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 2>host Football Night and America analyst and in his podcast Unbuttoned.

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<v Speaker 2>If Mac Jones was Seattle's quarterback this.

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<v Speaker 11>Year, yeah, okay, I mean they'd be in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 11>for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so you're not saying they would they would still

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 7>have won the Super Bowl. No, I'm not gonna go there.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, I think Sam Donald's talent is better than

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 11>there's a reason. You know, Sam Donald was the number

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 11>three pick and people thought he was going to be

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 11>the slam dunk number one pick. Really, if you go

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 11>back to that time, right, people were shocked that it

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 11>was Baker Mayfield. Everybody thought, what, Sam Donald's going to Cleveland.

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 11>But you know, he's got better physical ability than he

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 11>gets credit for it. Right, You've heard Josh Allen talk

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 11>about how Sam Donald spends the ball. I mean it's

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 11>a perfect spiral that spins tight his arms, a little

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 11>more explosive.

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 7>Than people realize.

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 11>You saw on Super Bowl Sunday his movement and getting

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 11>out of trouble a few times was kind of special

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 11>that way. So I do think he's capable of making

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 11>some plays.

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 7>That maybe Mac Jones isn't capable of making.

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to the Super Bowl, and it felt like,

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>and I said this a couple of times on the show.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>If you said to Patriot fans beginning of the year,

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 2>you're going to the super Bowl, but you're not going

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>to be competitive, would you sign up for that?

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 7>And the answer is of course yes, yes. But man,

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 7>it really feels like morale is low. After the way

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 7>they were beaten.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Your first round pick at left tackle gets you know,

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 2>man handled, Drake May didn't look good through the entire postseason.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>So now handicap the Patriots going into next season knowing

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>you have this super Bowl loss hangover.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think they're still gonna be really good.

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 11>They still got a lot of room on their cap space,

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 11>kind of like what you alluded to. I mean, they

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 11>were playing with house money. The fact that they got

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 11>this far is incredible. I don't think they're going anywhere.

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 11>I think they're gonna continue to be a really good

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 11>team now. I mean, can they get back to the

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 11>super Bowl and go fourteen to three?

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 11>They're gonna have a first play schedule next year, And

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 11>if you look at the teams they're gonna play next

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 11>year on the road and all that, it's like whoa, Okay, whoa, Yeah,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 11>it ain't gonna be the same, and I think, yeah,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.479
<v Speaker 11>morale is down because, like what you talked about, they

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 11>didn't play very good football in the playoffs. I don't

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 11>want to use the phrase they lucked into things, but

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 11>things certainly with CJ. Stroud's play, the way Stidham, the Broncos,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 11>the snowstorm, Yeah, that definitely helped out. And I think

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 11>to your point too, and to me, the biggest story

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 11>going into the game was that the guy that was

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 11>one vote away from being the MVP was historically bad

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 11>in the playoffs, like historically, and same with the left tackle.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 11>And then we got to the halftime of the game

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 11>and it was like, whoa again, the guy that was

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 11>one vote away from being the MVP, it's historically bad

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 11>in the first half of the game, made one real

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 11>throw in the first three quarters of the game. He

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 11>stepped up and throw a deep curl route to step

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 11>Von Diggs in the first quarter, and I would say

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 11>that was the only throw he made in the football

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 11>game until the touchdown drive to make it nineteen seven

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 11>to start the fourth quarter. That's crazy when you say

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 11>that out loud, right, And that's why I think morale's

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 11>a little down overall. And they were dominated in the game,

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 11>and it just didn't look good. But they shouldn't be

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 11>down for long. It just should be about the game

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 11>and the future is bright for the New England Patriots.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but why didn't they make adjustments? You got thirty

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 7>minutes at halftime, Chris, Yeah, right.

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 11>Well here here, so here with my I really I

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 11>watched the game on film and you know, this is

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 11>what I do and the podcast and Chris Sim's unbutton

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 11>and all that. First, I think the Patriots new they

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 11>knew they weren't the better team. I tell you in

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 11>the pregame warm up, so that they didn't they knew

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 11>they weren't the better team. I said this to Rodney

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 11>Devin McCarty. You went to either side of the field.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 11>The Seahawks were up on their field like we're about

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 11>to show everybody today. It felt like the Patriots are

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 11>a little bit like I hope we play our best

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 11>game and maybe we can pull it off.

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 7>Right.

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 11>That's kind of what it felt like on the field

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 11>on Super Bowl Sunday, And I know Rodney and Devin

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 11>mccorty kind of felt the same thing, to the point

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 11>where you were like Seattle's so psycho. Rodney Harrison was like,

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 11>I hope they don't run out of energy before the

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 11>game's over. And I was like, Rodney Devin Witherspoon could

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 11>not sleep for five nights in a row. He ain't

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 11>gonna lose energy today. I was like, they're young and

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 11>full of it and they're ready to go. But I

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 11>do think the Patriots went in the game knowing that

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 11>they weren't the better team. They knew they had to

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 11>take chances on the defensive side of the ball, which

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 11>is what you saw early on the game, right. I mean,

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 11>Sam Darnold threw some passes and you're like, whooh, oh,

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 11>my gosh. I mean they were gonna go for it

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 11>on that side of the ball. And I think they knew,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 11>between the shaky play of their quarterback and the way

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 11>and how good Seattle was, that they were just hoping

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 11>to muck the game up, make it ugly. Oh it's

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 11>nine to nothing, so what we'll put a drive together,

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 11>make it nine to seven. Maybe Sam Darnold to make

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 11>a mistake, and now we go up ten to nine,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 11>and now it's thirteen. That's what I think they went

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 11>into the game thinking that was the only way they

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 11>were going to be able to do it, but the

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 11>fact that they couldn't run the ball at all then

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 11>kind of shift the onus on to Drake May and

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 11>the passing game and the pass protection and a bunch

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 11>of other things you know that went along with it

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 11>led to, you know, some really tough sledding in that department.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 7>It's an eight hour pregame show and you have a run,

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 7>you have a rundown meeting where you get all the

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 7>analysts together. Right at what point do you look at

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 7>the rundown and realize that Rodney Harrison is going to

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 7>question Tony Dungee's Hall of Fame vote? Was that one?

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 7>Was that scripted? That that that was all a rundown?

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 5>It was?

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 11>It was?

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 5>It was.

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 11>It was I think kind of thrown into the rundown.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 11>And I'm not privy to all these conversations, but I

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 11>think it was thrown into the rundown when the Hall

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.959
<v Speaker 11>of Fame made the most egregiously stupid, tropic thunder decision

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 11>in the history of their their their their Hall of

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 11>Fame with not putting Bill Belichick in with the most

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 11>obvious should be first ballot Hall of Fame or ever. So,

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<v Speaker 11>then it was like, well, we got to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 11>and of course Rodney and Devin being from the Patriots

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<v Speaker 11>and all of that. And then yes, throughout the week,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, people started to question whether coach Dungee definitely

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<v Speaker 11>did that and all that. So yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 11>kind of came organically and Rodney wanted to question Coach

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<v Speaker 11>Dungee on that situation. And I didn't get to see

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<v Speaker 11>the segment in total totality there, but it sounded like

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<v Speaker 11>it went pretty good, even though Coach Dungee didn't quite

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<v Speaker 11>answer the question all the way.

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<v Speaker 7>Should he have answered the question?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, you know me, I mean, I'm a big mouth

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<v Speaker 11>to tell us says everything, So you know, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 11>should answered the question. I would have liked him for

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 11>him to answer the guy answering answered by not answering it.

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<v Speaker 11>He answered it, Yeah, exactly right. I would have called

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<v Speaker 11>Rodney for targeting. I would have had to flag him

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<v Speaker 11>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 11>I thought Rodney might go harder, you know, I thought,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, Rodney, Rodney, as we all know, like Mike

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<v Speaker 11>Tyson at times, can be like a pitbull on the loose,

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<v Speaker 11>and you're just like, oh, he's.

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<v Speaker 7>In that mode, watch out.

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<v Speaker 11>And I was kind of hoping the pit bull might

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<v Speaker 11>get unleash during that interview, but he kept tame there

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, stayed down leash.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess thanks as always for joining us the entire season.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll leave you alone for a little while.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, just for a little while.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, we got draft and free agency to talk about,

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<v Speaker 11>so you know I'll be game for that whenever you're down.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Bud, all right, thank you. Tell those jerks

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. Two thousand and five, the Seahawks lost

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles won the Super Bowl. The twenty twenty five Seahawks

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<v Speaker 2>won the Super Bowl. The twenty twenty six Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you think, let's put collectively our salaries on

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<v Speaker 3>it right now?

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<v Speaker 7>What we let's go pay out on that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we find out the Bears odds of winning the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl? It just sounds like one hundred percent. We

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<v Speaker 3>just found them out.

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<v Speaker 7>PAULI you feel good.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't like it, said aloud. I like quiet, simmering hope.

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<v Speaker 8>If that's a word a phrase.

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<v Speaker 7>Seaton update the poll results, please, that's the best.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all in. I'm all in on that. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>sucker for crap like that. Would you rather a player

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<v Speaker 3>sixty games for fifteen years or eighty two games for

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>eleven years? Okay, it's basically nine hundred games. One of

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.919
<v Speaker 3>them's nine hundred and two games, but basically the same thing. Okay,

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 3>right now, sixty eight percent of the audience would rather

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<v Speaker 3>eighty two games for eleven wow, over sixty games for fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no way. I want you ready for the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>If you say you're going to play sixty but you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be ready to go for the postseason, I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 2>If I got fourteen years of that, absolutely, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears odds.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all, I want you tired and banged up

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<v Speaker 8>and dragging the postseason. Clearly, the Bears odds to win

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<v Speaker 8>the Super Bowl next year. You can get that for

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 8>around and Dylan is checking other places. Twenty five to one. Okay,

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 8>should we throw a grand on it?

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<v Speaker 7>So? What does it?

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<v Speaker 10>So?

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<v Speaker 7>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>If you put a thousand dollars on it, twenty five thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>you get twenty five thousand dollars, a good chunk of change.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not enough, that's what. Let's put one hundred thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 7>A nine. You're talking to the wrong room of people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's that's your other group of friends. Vince in Austin, Hi, Vince,

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<v Speaker 7>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey guys, good morning. What an awesome, awesome energy yesterday

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 10>with my homeboys. Drew Brees. I'm from Austin, Texas. He's

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<v Speaker 10>from nearby West Lake. He went to Westlex High School.

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 10>I went to Travis. My freshman OC was Ron Schroeder,

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 10>who left the next year to go to Westlake. He

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 10>became a legendary football coach in the state of Texas.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 10>He started us doing the four wide, no huddle, the

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 10>shotgun snap and brog was crazy because we ran the

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 10>power eye and we had no idea what we were doing.

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 10>But heck, top man, he represented himself well yesterday and

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<v Speaker 10>what a great career and getting good to be associated

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<v Speaker 10>with that man.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, thank you, Vince, opening up your scrap

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>book there. I had a long time to tell that

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<v Speaker 2>story on the show. Yeah, I gotta get an opportunity

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 2>to tell the four wide and we ran you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the power eye.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, this is my window right here. Yep, now's

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<v Speaker 7>my turn. Rich in Chicago. Hi, Rich, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey Dan? How are you too good?

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<v Speaker 7>Bude?

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<v Speaker 5>Good? Hey? You just CD strawed two days in a row.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think you're just wrong about His offensive line

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 5>is ranked twenty seventh in the NFL. He's got no

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 5>skilled player that's ranked in the top ten in any category.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 5>He's got two seconds to throw to nobody open And

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<v Speaker 5>you guys are just wrong about your assessment.

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<v Speaker 7>This isn't my assessment.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a team has to decide if they are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do something with him. You saw Drake May

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 2>got his team to the super Bowl. You're trying to

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 2>tell me he's got skilled position players. You try to

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 2>tell me he's got a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 5>And c J. Stroud they traded away the one of

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<v Speaker 5>the best left tackles in the NFL and got nothing

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<v Speaker 5>for him. They got a second round pick and a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of third round picks. They have paid zero attention

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<v Speaker 5>to the offense over the last three years.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, but do you think I'm the only one bringing

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 7>up CJ. Strouden? Are you going to extend him?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, He's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm the only one bringing up Is there a

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>question of extending him?

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<v Speaker 5>You simms? Who's just bad? The one that surprises me

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 5>is Golick. I think I thought he would know better.

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 5>But and Darnold is the perfect example. He goes to

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<v Speaker 5>the Jets, the worst franchise in the history of the NFL,

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 5>and people are saying he's a bad quarterback. It's like

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 5>they can't put two and two together.

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<v Speaker 7>The Texans were a playoff team the previous year.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me the additions they made to their offense besides Stroud.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but why aren't you yelling at the Texans? They

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<v Speaker 7>they this is malpractice?

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 5>Then Rich the people that you know incorrectly put the

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 5>blame on c. DE Stroud.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he does take some blame, don't you think he

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 7>looked horrible. He couldn't hold onto the football. I mean,

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 7>those are some of the worst games that we've seen

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 7>in recent memory for a quarterback. Now you can bring

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 7>up the offensive line, but he was fumbling the ball.

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 7>He couldn't hold on to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, he did not play well.

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 7>But to.

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<v Speaker 5>Say that there's some doubt about his future over that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, so you're going to give him fifty five sixty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars a year moving forward?

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 5>Give it to Would you give it to Bryce Young?

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 10>No?

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 5>Comical? Okay, So who else would you give it to?

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 5>What are they going to do? They're gonna go back

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 5>into the draft? Is that what you're saying?

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 7>No, maybe you get him for thirty five million.

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he realizes that he's not getting sixty million and

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 2>and and maybe you do salvage something here. But am

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I giving you want to give him sixty million? Go ahead?

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I wouldn't give Bryce Young sixty million dollars

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 2>a year. But that'll be the going rate if you

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 2>really love him, you think he's a franchise quarterback.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 7>Hopefully they build around him.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 5>You pay him what he's worth, and you don't beat

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 5>people over the head for things that don't that they

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 5>are out of their control. You're going to leverage him

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 5>because they've got a crummy offensive line. You're going to

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 5>leverage his ability to make money because they've got a

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 5>crumby offensive line.

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, you then pay him sixty million. Good luck with that, Rich.

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you're the president of the cj Stround fan

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>club there. This isn't personal, Lane, Yeah, I know. This

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>isn't personal.