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Speaker 2: as we look at the off season with the quarterback

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Speaker 2: us in twenty minutes from now, Chris mannix covering the NBA.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about tanking and also the All Star Game

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Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. This is not going as scripted

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Speaker 2: for the NBA because I thought the World versus the

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Speaker 2: United States was a wonderful approach, maybe a last ditched

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Speaker 2: approach to have a little bit of competition with the

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Speaker 2: All Star festivities. But now you've got a few players

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Speaker 2: who won't be playing in the game. Kevin Durant was

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Speaker 2: asked a question yesterday. I'll give you the question and

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Speaker 2: his answer and then we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 3: I saw you saw the rosters were revealed and said,

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Speaker 3: you're on that Old Heads team.

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Speaker 4: Do you think the Old Heads will compete and try

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Speaker 4: to win the whole tournament?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 6: You should ask the Europeans the World team if they're

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Speaker 6: going to compete. I mean, because if we look at

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Speaker 6: Luka Dancis and Nicole oki Is, now let's go back

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Speaker 6: and look at what they do at the All Star Game.

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Speaker 6: Is that competition? So we have a questioned what they've

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Speaker 6: been doing. But we're gonna question old his in the Americans.

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Speaker 6: But these two dudes out there Luca and Yochas. They

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Speaker 6: don't care about the game. Man, Oh, these dudes be

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Speaker 6: laying on the floor. They shoot from half court. But

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Speaker 6: you got worried about the old heads playing hard. I

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Speaker 6: can read between the lines.

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Speaker 2: Bro Oh Durant. He's funny. He's funny, he's feisty. But

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Speaker 2: you know it's a fair point. He's saying we play hard.

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Speaker 7: They don't.

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Speaker 2: But the reason why Joker doesn't play hard in the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game is that's not his style. The All

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Speaker 2: Star the way that's played up and down, dunking, that's

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Speaker 2: not his style. Luca, that's not his style. So he

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Speaker 2: might single them out as not playing hard. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: guess if they are playing this weekend in the All

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Speaker 2: Star Game, they will play hard because they're playing for

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Speaker 2: their country or countries. And I think you'll see a

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Speaker 2: more spirited I hope it is, and I'm not asking

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Speaker 2: too much. It's not going to be the way it

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Speaker 2: once was, but I would like to see some competition

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Speaker 2: and maybe we'll get that with this format. We're running

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Speaker 2: out of ideas when it comes to the All Star Game,

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Speaker 2: and it's not mandatory or the future of the sports

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Speaker 2: at stake. You know it's like the Pro Bowl, and

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Speaker 2: I said that for years, they don't want to play

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Speaker 2: in it. When it was in Hawaii. You wanted to

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Speaker 2: be awarded the opportunity to go to Hawaii with your

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Speaker 2: family and oh, by the way, we'll show up, run

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Speaker 7: Hopefully we don't get hurt. That's it.

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Speaker 2: You just wanted the designation of being a pro bowler

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Speaker 2: with the All Star Game. Do I want to see

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Speaker 2: them go out and maybe make it like Olympic competition.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to, but it's not going to happen. So

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Speaker 2: maybe you get something that is a reasonable facsimile of

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Speaker 2: a pickup basketball game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seaton, Yeah, I think the first problem is trying

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Speaker 3: to make this mean something. Yes, that's the first problem.

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Speaker 3: So that already were starting from like a deficit there,

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Speaker 3: don't Do you think the NBA did enough to get

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Speaker 3: people understand what this All Star Game is going to look.

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Speaker 7: Like because it is significantly different. Well, you have three teams.

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Speaker 7: You have two teams from the United States and then

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Speaker 7: you have the World team, right.

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Speaker 3: And then what that each You basically play like twelve

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Speaker 3: I don't even understand it seedon, Well, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Well that you have three different teams and the quarters

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Speaker 2: even then like I'm going to tune in and go, okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe explain this to me a little bit further.

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Speaker 7: But I thought it.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you have three teams and you have

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Speaker 2: and it's the All Star weekend, and then you have

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Speaker 2: the rising stars and now we just found out that

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Speaker 2: Cooper Flag is not going to be playing in that

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Speaker 2: this isn't going as scripted for. And then you got

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Speaker 2: the commissioner who is going to be under fire this

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Speaker 2: weekend about tanking because these teams they're not hiding it anymore.

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Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, you know, we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna play our starters until the third quarter when that ends,

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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna sit them down.

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Speaker 7: Hey we might win, we might not.

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Speaker 2: But it just feels like it's well it is. It's

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Speaker 2: not a growing concern. It's a concern here. And I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine what David Stern would be doing right now

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Speaker 2: if he was the commissioner. Maybe it's not fair to

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver, but David Stern would not be putting up

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Speaker 7: But I don't even know what you can do.

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Speaker 2: You know, all the media rights. I think it was

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Speaker 2: a total of like seventy billion dollars over the next

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Speaker 2: eleven years. They're swimming in money. They don't know what

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Speaker 2: if I'm a player, and let's say I applied this

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Speaker 2: What if Larry Bird played today and he did have

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Speaker 2: played sixty five games, wouldn't you want that? Do I

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Speaker 2: want Steph Curry to be able to play longer? Do

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Speaker 2: answer is yes, I don't think the NBA cares about us.

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Speaker 2: If we say the following, well, I go to one

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Speaker 2: game a year. The NBA doesn't care about that. Now

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Speaker 2: we do as you know parents, where you say, oh,

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Speaker 2: the NBA is worried about filling up the seats every

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Speaker 2: the TV money as well flowing in. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I got Commissioner Silver in a private moment

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Speaker 2: and said, hey, if you're looking at the longevity of

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Speaker 2: great players like Cooper Flag, he's going to have load

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Speaker 7: They all do.

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Speaker 2: Now, at nineteen, you can run all day, but he

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Speaker 2: gets to be twenty six, now seven years, you know,

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Speaker 2: on those legs, and then maybe you're going to have

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Speaker 2: load management. It happens. But if I can extend Cooper

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Speaker 2: maybe he's only playing in sixty five, maybe seventy games,

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Speaker 2: It used to be a badge of courage, like you

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Speaker 2: wanted to play as many games as possible. Charles Barkley

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Speaker 2: won the MVP of the All Star Game and he

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Speaker 2: played on a stress fracture.

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Speaker 7: He shouldn't have been playing in the game.

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Speaker 2: Imagine Michael Jordan breaks his foot and then comes back

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Speaker 2: and you know you're going to play the Celtics who

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Speaker 2: would have let Michael Jordan back intoday's NBA. They just

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Speaker 2: wouldn't because they'd say, that doesn't make any sense. We're

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Speaker 2: going to sit you down, we're going to get into

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Speaker 2: the lottery, we're going to tank, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: be better.

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Speaker 7: So the philosophy has shifted.

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Speaker 2: I never ever worried when I tuned into a game

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Speaker 2: if the stars were going to play or not. Growing up,

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Speaker 2: it was a great luxury. And about ten years ago,

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Speaker 2: maybe a little longer than that, it all changed. But

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Speaker 2: I understand it from a player's perspective. If I can

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Speaker 2: imagine if you add four more years to Steph Curry's career,

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Speaker 2: that maybe it would have ended.

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Speaker 7: You know, at thirty six, that's over a one hundred

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Speaker 7: and thirty million dollars by just being economical, smart, taking

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Speaker 7: care of yourself, getting your rest. And I know we

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Speaker 7: don't like it, but you know, we're in a completely

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Speaker 7: different world what it was like when we were growing up.

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Speaker 2: You know, Bill Russell played every game and Bob Coosey

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Speaker 2: played every game. Yes, but in today's NBA, they're looking

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Speaker 2: at this from a business perspective. The NBA has business

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Speaker 2: and entertainment, but the player is thinking about I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: I mean, look at Yannis. He's had a calf.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how serious it is, but he's been

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Speaker 2: We're like, such and such isn't playing like Kawhi. I'm

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Speaker 7: When Kawhi's playing, being like, oh, and Kawhi is having

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Speaker 7: an unbelievable year he is, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: But also you got to put this on the team

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Speaker 4: also because they're protecting their investment, because these guys are

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Speaker 4: making so much money. Hey, this guy has a stress

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Speaker 4: to throw him out there. Hey, let's keep him out

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Speaker 4: here in an extra two games.

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Speaker 2: I know, I get it. I get it that this

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Speaker 2: is it's business. It's our entertainment, but it's their business. Yeah, Pauling,

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Speaker 8: You're completely right about it. It's like a ship that's

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Speaker 8: going one way and you can't turn it around. But

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Speaker 8: if you look at what most fans think of it,

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Speaker 8: they compare it to the NFL, and they'll always compare

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Speaker 8: the NBA, which is considered not as rough and brutal

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Speaker 8: as a sport, fair to say. And they sit out

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Speaker 8: all the time, and football players they can't sit out

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Speaker 8: because they have fewer games. But if you look at

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Speaker 8: the ratings of the NBA finals the past fifteen years

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Speaker 8: and load management they match each other, the finals keep

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Speaker 8: going down and down and down compared to a generation ago,

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Speaker 8: and that's a real problem.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Seeden.

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Speaker 3: I think from the team perspective too though, I think

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Speaker 3: it's probably important to remember that when you're the team,

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Speaker 3: and yes, you're protecting your investment, but no one is

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Speaker 3: bigger than the team. The team is going to keep

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Speaker 3: going on after all of these people retire. There's you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's what teams are thinking about. This one guy

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Speaker 2: And man, there's some wild things that are out there,

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Speaker 7: He's different to his quarterback.

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Speaker 7: You get your podcasts. Seaton Poll question, first hour, what

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sort of workshopping here one. I just got

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Speaker 8: Okay, I see where he's going. How about you could

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Speaker 2: If he's staying on my team the whole time, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 8: Even though you get to see him less.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the time that I really care about seeing my

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Speaker 2: with Mike Florio. Also was there working the Super Bowl

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Speaker 11: No, I don't think so, I don't. I mean, it's just,

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Speaker 7: Then explain to me what the Raiders did with Max

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Speaker 7: And I do think there's value in that for young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 11: no brainer. But what happened in here, Chris, Yeah, I

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Speaker 11: mean it.

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Speaker 7: Was questionable towards the end of the regular season.

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Speaker 11: You know, I've had people go, oh, they think his

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Speaker 11: concussion in the middle part of the year was still

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Speaker 11: affecting him. Right, he has been in some different offensive systems,

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Speaker 11: but man, he really lost his way towards the end

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Speaker 11: of the year, lost his way with decision making, feel

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Speaker 11: for the game.

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Speaker 5: You know, the.

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Speaker 11: Proper type of throws forgetting what his team was. I mean,

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Speaker 11: I said to Mike Florio before, and I think this

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Speaker 11: is why, you know, we were kind of talking about

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Speaker 11: the Patriots and maybe there won't be the biggest bullseye

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Speaker 11: on their back because of how the playoffs and Super

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Speaker 11: Bowl went going in the next year. And I made

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Speaker 11: the comment, You're like, yeah, I mean, hey, the Chargers

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Speaker 11: game is underwhelming.

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Speaker 7: The Houston game. You kind of felt like if CJ.

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Speaker 11: Stroud just kneeled on the ball the whole game, Houston

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Speaker 11: probably would have won the football game. Just kneeled on

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Speaker 11: it every play, first, second down, third down, kneel on it.

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Speaker 11: Defense will set us up for a field position. At

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Speaker 11: one point we'll kick a field goal and win the

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Speaker 11: game that way. Like I'm joking, but I'm not joking.

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Speaker 11: It was that crazy. It was that bad. So I

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Speaker 11: sit here now, I guess giving the edge to Bryce Young,

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Speaker 11: but don't feel necessarily great about that. I mean, I

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Speaker 11: know Carolina went into the year going, hey, we like

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Speaker 11: where we're going, but we don't have our quarterback yet.

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Speaker 11: We don't really know. We don't think we got the guy.

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Speaker 11: We don't have the guy. Now, how he played better definitely.

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Speaker 11: How do they feel about that? I'm sure they feel better,

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Speaker 11: But I wouldn't sit here and just go, oh, we're

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Speaker 11: just golden at quarterback with Bryce Young.

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Speaker 7: I'm not ready to say that yet.

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Speaker 2: You know, the draft is kind of sparse with what

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Speaker 2: we think will be franchise quarterbacks. But I'm wondering about

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones or Malik Willis. Feels like they could get

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Speaker 2: that kind of I don't want to say Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: but they could get that. Hey, we've gone through you know,

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Speaker 2: the washing machine a couple of times, right, maybe now

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Speaker 2: it's our turn. Now we're at an age where we

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Speaker 2: can handle this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: No, I think Malik Willis is a superstar, right. I

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Speaker 11: would think he is the like the crowning gem of

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Speaker 11: guys that's going to be out there as far as

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Speaker 11: free agents that you can get no compensation trading any.

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Speaker 7: Like, why wouldn't Pittsburgh go for Malik Willis?

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Speaker 11: If I were them, I'd be looking at that. You're

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Speaker 11: you're exactly right. I mean, Malik Willis has proven I

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Speaker 11: mean he's got special talent, he has a special arm,

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Speaker 11: he's got special mobility, he knows how to run the

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Speaker 11: offense and do all of that. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 11: he's a great story here and again another story of

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Speaker 11: like we looked at the draft and you know, again,

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Speaker 11: I was a Malik Willis fan coming out, and it's like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I know Kenny Pickett can play in the pocket and

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Speaker 11: he's very good in the meeting room. And I'm so

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Speaker 11: sick of that damn dumb discussion all the time with

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Speaker 11: some of these quarterbacks. And I'm gonna go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 11: how did that meeting room and in the pocket work

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Speaker 11: for you, Pittsburgh Philadelphia Raiders?

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Speaker 7: You know, how about the.

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Speaker 11: Guy that has a ton of talent and can make

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Speaker 11: game changing plays, It just needs a little polish and

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Speaker 11: needs to be coached a little And that's where you

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Speaker 11: know the league misses out on guys like that.

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Speaker 7: But do you like Milake Willis more than Jordan Love.

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Speaker 11: I It's closer than I ever thought it would be, right,

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Speaker 11: And I'm really a Jordan Love fan. I mean again,

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm the one that was like Jordan Love, I

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Speaker 11: think is going to be better than Tua when he

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Speaker 11: was coming out in the draft, right, So so I'm

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Speaker 11: with that, But Malik Willis, I'm not gonna say he's

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Speaker 11: better than Jordan Love Right now, I will say that

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Speaker 11: I think he shows more potential to be a greater

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Speaker 11: player than Jordan Love. That that's what I would say

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Speaker 11: right now, But I got to see a little bit

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Speaker 11: more before I say he's better than Jordan Love.

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Speaker 7: And he's forty million dollars cheaper, right, That helps still,

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Speaker 7: but he won't be forty million dollars cheaper after this

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Speaker 7: off season that I think will change. What about Mac Jones' future, Well,

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Speaker 7: Mac Jones is first off shown that he's capable of

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Speaker 7: being a starting quarterback. We know that, right, And the

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Speaker 7: guys like Shanahan and McVeigh and you know the Ben

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Speaker 7: Johnson's in the world, the guys who have these unbelievable, intricate,

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Speaker 7: hard offenses are always gonna like Mac Jones, just like

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Speaker 7: Shanahan and McVay love the Kirk Cousins of the world

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Speaker 7: and those guys because they can handle all the tricks

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Speaker 7: that they have to offer to make the offense look

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Speaker 7: tricky and awesome. Right.

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Speaker 11: So that's where you know there's always gonna be love

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Speaker 11: for Mac Jones. Now, he can't carry the team, right,

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Speaker 11: you put them on crappy Jacksonville for two years ago

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Speaker 11: with all that was going on there. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 11: Josh Allen, Lamar Mahomes. They're just gonna, hey, get on

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Speaker 11: my back, guys, I'll get us through this time period here.

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Speaker 7: No, he's not that.

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Speaker 11: He needs system. He needs help, and when he does

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Speaker 11: do that, you could see he can play at a

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Speaker 11: high level. But at the same time, I don't think

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Speaker 11: the forty nine ers in Shanahan are just gonna give

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Speaker 11: him away. And not only will they have to be

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Speaker 11: blown up by the trade, but the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 11: as we know, were good and with healthy like there

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Speaker 11: might be a Super Bowl team. And I knowing my

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Speaker 11: buddy Kyle Shannan, I don't think he would leverage the

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Speaker 11: future of the team and get rid of Mac Jones

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Speaker 11: unless he's very comfortable with who his.

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Speaker 7: Backup quarterback is.

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Speaker 11: And I don't know if he's there with Curtis Rourke

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Speaker 11: right who came off the ACL injury, coming from Indiana

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Speaker 11: and being there and being that guy to hold down

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Speaker 11: the fort if something did happen to Brock Purdy.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co

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Speaker 2: host Football Night and America analyst and in his podcast Unbuttoned.

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Speaker 2: If Mac Jones was Seattle's quarterback this.

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Speaker 11: Year, yeah, okay, I mean they'd be in the playoffs

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Speaker 11: for sure.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so you're not saying they would they would still

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Speaker 7: have won the Super Bowl. No, I'm not gonna go there.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think Sam Donald's talent is better than

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Speaker 11: there's a reason. You know, Sam Donald was the number

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Speaker 11: three pick and people thought he was going to be

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Speaker 11: the slam dunk number one pick. Really, if you go

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Speaker 11: back to that time, right, people were shocked that it

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Speaker 11: was Baker Mayfield. Everybody thought, what, Sam Donald's going to Cleveland.

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Speaker 11: But you know, he's got better physical ability than he

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Speaker 11: gets credit for it. Right, You've heard Josh Allen talk

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Speaker 11: about how Sam Donald spends the ball. I mean it's

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Speaker 11: a perfect spiral that spins tight his arms, a little

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Speaker 11: more explosive.

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Speaker 7: Than people realize.

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Speaker 11: You saw on Super Bowl Sunday his movement and getting

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Speaker 11: out of trouble a few times was kind of special

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Speaker 11: that way. So I do think he's capable of making

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Speaker 11: some plays.

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Speaker 7: That maybe Mac Jones isn't capable of making.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Super Bowl, and it felt like,

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Speaker 2: and I said this a couple of times on the show.

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Speaker 2: If you said to Patriot fans beginning of the year,

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Speaker 2: you're going to the super Bowl, but you're not going

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Speaker 2: to be competitive, would you sign up for that?

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Speaker 7: And the answer is of course yes, yes. But man,

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Speaker 7: it really feels like morale is low. After the way

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Speaker 7: they were beaten.

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Speaker 2: Your first round pick at left tackle gets you know,

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Speaker 2: man handled, Drake May didn't look good through the entire postseason.

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Speaker 2: So now handicap the Patriots going into next season knowing

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Speaker 2: you have this super Bowl loss hangover.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they're still gonna be really good.

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Speaker 11: They still got a lot of room on their cap space,

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Speaker 11: kind of like what you alluded to. I mean, they

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Speaker 11: were playing with house money. The fact that they got

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Speaker 11: this far is incredible. I don't think they're going anywhere.

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Speaker 11: I think they're gonna continue to be a really good

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Speaker 11: team now. I mean, can they get back to the

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Speaker 11: super Bowl and go fourteen to three?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: They're gonna have a first play schedule next year, And

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Speaker 11: if you look at the teams they're gonna play next

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Speaker 11: year on the road and all that, it's like whoa, Okay, whoa, Yeah,

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Speaker 11: it ain't gonna be the same, and I think, yeah,

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Speaker 11: morale is down because, like what you talked about, they

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Speaker 11: didn't play very good football in the playoffs. I don't

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Speaker 11: want to use the phrase they lucked into things, but

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Speaker 11: things certainly with CJ. Stroud's play, the way Stidham, the Broncos,

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Speaker 11: the snowstorm, Yeah, that definitely helped out. And I think

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Speaker 11: to your point too, and to me, the biggest story

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Speaker 11: going into the game was that the guy that was

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Speaker 11: one vote away from being the MVP was historically bad

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Speaker 11: in the playoffs, like historically, and same with the left tackle.

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Speaker 11: And then we got to the halftime of the game

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Speaker 11: and it was like, whoa again, the guy that was

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Speaker 11: one vote away from being the MVP, it's historically bad

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Speaker 11: in the first half of the game, made one real

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Speaker 11: throw in the first three quarters of the game. He

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Speaker 11: stepped up and throw a deep curl route to step

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Speaker 11: Von Diggs in the first quarter, and I would say

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Speaker 11: that was the only throw he made in the football

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Speaker 11: game until the touchdown drive to make it nineteen seven

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Speaker 11: to start the fourth quarter. That's crazy when you say

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Speaker 11: that out loud, right, And that's why I think morale's

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Speaker 11: a little down overall. And they were dominated in the game,

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Speaker 11: and it just didn't look good. But they shouldn't be

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Speaker 11: down for long. It just should be about the game

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Speaker 11: and the future is bright for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but why didn't they make adjustments? You got thirty

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Speaker 7: minutes at halftime, Chris, Yeah, right.

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Speaker 11: Well here here, so here with my I really I

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Speaker 11: watched the game on film and you know, this is

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Speaker 11: what I do and the podcast and Chris Sim's unbutton

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Speaker 11: and all that. First, I think the Patriots new they

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Speaker 11: knew they weren't the better team. I tell you in

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Speaker 11: the pregame warm up, so that they didn't they knew

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Speaker 11: they weren't the better team. I said this to Rodney

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Speaker 11: Devin McCarty. You went to either side of the field.

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Speaker 11: The Seahawks were up on their field like we're about

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Speaker 11: to show everybody today. It felt like the Patriots are

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Speaker 11: a little bit like I hope we play our best

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Speaker 11: game and maybe we can pull it off.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 11: That's kind of what it felt like on the field

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Speaker 11: on Super Bowl Sunday, And I know Rodney and Devin

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Speaker 11: mccorty kind of felt the same thing, to the point

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Speaker 11: where you were like Seattle's so psycho. Rodney Harrison was like,

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Speaker 11: I hope they don't run out of energy before the

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Speaker 11: game's over. And I was like, Rodney Devin Witherspoon could

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Speaker 11: not sleep for five nights in a row. He ain't

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Speaker 11: gonna lose energy today. I was like, they're young and

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Speaker 11: full of it and they're ready to go. But I

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Speaker 11: do think the Patriots went in the game knowing that

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Speaker 11: they weren't the better team. They knew they had to

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Speaker 11: take chances on the defensive side of the ball, which

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Speaker 11: is what you saw early on the game, right. I mean,

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Speaker 11: Sam Darnold threw some passes and you're like, whooh, oh,

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Speaker 11: my gosh. I mean they were gonna go for it

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Speaker 11: on that side of the ball. And I think they knew,

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Speaker 11: between the shaky play of their quarterback and the way

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Speaker 11: and how good Seattle was, that they were just hoping

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Speaker 11: to muck the game up, make it ugly. Oh it's

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Speaker 11: nine to nothing, so what we'll put a drive together,

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Speaker 11: make it nine to seven. Maybe Sam Darnold to make

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Speaker 11: a mistake, and now we go up ten to nine,

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Speaker 11: and now it's thirteen. That's what I think they went

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Speaker 11: into the game thinking that was the only way they

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Speaker 11: were going to be able to do it, but the

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Speaker 11: fact that they couldn't run the ball at all then

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Speaker 11: kind of shift the onus on to Drake May and

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Speaker 11: the passing game and the pass protection and a bunch

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Speaker 11: of other things you know that went along with it

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Speaker 11: led to, you know, some really tough sledding in that department.

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Speaker 7: It's an eight hour pregame show and you have a run,

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Speaker 7: you have a rundown meeting where you get all the

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Speaker 7: analysts together. Right at what point do you look at

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Speaker 7: the rundown and realize that Rodney Harrison is going to

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Speaker 7: question Tony Dungee's Hall of Fame vote? Was that one?

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Speaker 7: Was that scripted? That that that was all a rundown?

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Speaker 5: It was?

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Speaker 11: It was?

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 11: It was I think kind of thrown into the rundown.

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Speaker 11: And I'm not privy to all these conversations, but I

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Speaker 11: think it was thrown into the rundown when the Hall

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Speaker 11: of Fame made the most egregiously stupid, tropic thunder decision

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Speaker 11: in the history of their their their their Hall of

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Speaker 11: Fame with not putting Bill Belichick in with the most

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Speaker 11: obvious should be first ballot Hall of Fame or ever. So,

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Speaker 11: then it was like, well, we got to talk about this,

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Speaker 11: and of course Rodney and Devin being from the Patriots

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Speaker 11: and all of that. And then yes, throughout the week,

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Speaker 11: you know, people started to question whether coach Dungee definitely

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Speaker 11: did that and all that. So yeah, I think it

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Speaker 11: kind of came organically and Rodney wanted to question Coach

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Speaker 11: Dungee on that situation. And I didn't get to see

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Speaker 11: the segment in total totality there, but it sounded like

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Speaker 11: it went pretty good, even though Coach Dungee didn't quite

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Speaker 11: answer the question all the way.

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Speaker 7: Should he have answered the question?

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Speaker 11: Well, you know me, I mean, I'm a big mouth

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Speaker 11: to tell us says everything, So you know, yeah, he

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Speaker 11: should answered the question. I would have liked him for

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Speaker 11: him to answer the guy answering answered by not answering it.

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Speaker 11: He answered it, Yeah, exactly right. I would have called

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Speaker 11: Rodney for targeting. I would have had to flag him

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Speaker 11: on that.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 11: I thought Rodney might go harder, you know, I thought,

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Speaker 11: you know, Rodney, Rodney, as we all know, like Mike

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Speaker 11: Tyson at times, can be like a pitbull on the loose,

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Speaker 11: and you're just like, oh, he's.

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Speaker 7: In that mode, watch out.

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Speaker 11: And I was kind of hoping the pit bull might

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Speaker 11: get unleash during that interview, but he kept tame there

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Speaker 11: and you know, stayed down leash.

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Speaker 2: I guess thanks as always for joining us the entire season.

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Speaker 2: We'll leave you alone for a little while.

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Speaker 7: All right, just for a little while.

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Speaker 11: You know, we got draft and free agency to talk about,

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Speaker 11: so you know I'll be game for that whenever you're down.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Bud, all right, thank you. Tell those jerks

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Speaker 7: I said, Hi, Hey jerks, he says Hi.

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Speaker 7: Clippers find Kawhi looking to be the hero tonight.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen of his twenty seven came in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Kawhi scored at least twenty points and thirty three consecutive games,

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Speaker 2: a career high. Those aren't consecutive games that he's played in, though.

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Speaker 2: goes like this. Two thousand and four, the Eagles lost

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Two thousand and five, the Seahawks lost

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Two thousand and six, the Bears lost

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Speaker 2: Eagles won the Super Bowl. The twenty twenty five Seahawks

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Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. The twenty twenty six Bears.

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Speaker 3: Why would you think, let's put collectively our salaries on

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Speaker 3: it right now?

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Speaker 7: What we let's go pay out on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can we find out the Bears odds of winning the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl? It just sounds like one hundred percent. We

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Speaker 3: just found them out.

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Speaker 7: PAULI you feel good.

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Speaker 8: I don't like it, said aloud. I like quiet, simmering hope.

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Speaker 8: If that's a word a phrase.

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Speaker 7: Seaton update the poll results, please, that's the best.

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Speaker 3: I'm all in. I'm all in on that. I'm a

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Speaker 3: sucker for crap like that. Would you rather a player

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Speaker 3: sixty games for fifteen years or eighty two games for

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Speaker 3: eleven years? Okay, it's basically nine hundred games. One of

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Speaker 3: them's nine hundred and two games, but basically the same thing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: right now, sixty eight percent of the audience would rather

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Speaker 3: eighty two games for eleven wow, over sixty games for fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no way. I want you ready for the postseason.

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Speaker 2: If you say you're going to play sixty but you're

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Speaker 2: gonna be ready to go for the postseason, I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: If I got fourteen years of that, absolutely, you have

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Speaker 2: the Bears odds.

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Speaker 8: First of all, I want you tired and banged up

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Speaker 8: and dragging the postseason. Clearly, the Bears odds to win

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Speaker 8: the Super Bowl next year. You can get that for

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Speaker 8: around and Dylan is checking other places. Twenty five to one. Okay,

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Speaker 8: should we throw a grand on it?

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Speaker 7: So? What does it?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 7: What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: If you put a thousand dollars on it, twenty five thousand,

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Speaker 3: you get twenty five thousand dollars, a good chunk of change.

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Speaker 2: That's not enough, that's what. Let's put one hundred thousands.

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Speaker 2: Let's put one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 7: A nine. You're talking to the wrong room of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's that's your other group of friends. Vince in Austin, Hi, Vince,

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Speaker 7: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey guys, good morning. What an awesome, awesome energy yesterday

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Speaker 10: with my homeboys. Drew Brees. I'm from Austin, Texas. He's

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Speaker 10: from nearby West Lake. He went to Westlex High School.

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Speaker 10: I went to Travis. My freshman OC was Ron Schroeder,

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Speaker 10: who left the next year to go to Westlake. He

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Speaker 10: became a legendary football coach in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 10: He started us doing the four wide, no huddle, the

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Speaker 10: power eye and we had no idea what we were doing.

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Speaker 10: But heck, top man, he represented himself well yesterday and

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Speaker 10: what a great career and getting good to be associated

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Speaker 10: with that man.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you, Vince, opening up your scrap

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Speaker 2: book there. I had a long time to tell that

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Speaker 2: story on the show. Yeah, I gotta get an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to tell the four wide and we ran you know,

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Speaker 2: the power eye.

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Speaker 7: All right, this is my window right here. Yep, now's

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Speaker 7: my turn. Rich in Chicago. Hi, Rich, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey Dan? How are you too good?

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Speaker 7: Bude?

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Speaker 5: Good? Hey? You just CD strawed two days in a row.

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Speaker 5: And I think you're just wrong about His offensive line

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Speaker 5: is ranked twenty seventh in the NFL. He's got no

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Speaker 5: skilled player that's ranked in the top ten in any category.

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Speaker 5: He's got two seconds to throw to nobody open And

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Speaker 5: you guys are just wrong about your assessment.

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Speaker 7: This isn't my assessment.

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Speaker 2: This is a team has to decide if they are

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Speaker 2: going to do something with him. You saw Drake May

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Speaker 2: got his team to the super Bowl. You're trying to

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Speaker 2: tell me he's got skilled position players. You try to

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Speaker 2: tell me he's got a good offensive line.

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Speaker 5: And c J. Stroud they traded away the one of

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Speaker 5: the best left tackles in the NFL and got nothing

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Speaker 5: for him. They got a second round pick and a

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Speaker 5: couple of third round picks. They have paid zero attention

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Speaker 5: to the offense over the last three years.

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Speaker 7: Okay, but do you think I'm the only one bringing

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Speaker 7: up CJ. Strouden? Are you going to extend him?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, He's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So I'm the only one bringing up Is there a

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Speaker 2: question of extending him?

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Speaker 5: You simms? Who's just bad? The one that surprises me

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Speaker 5: is Golick. I think I thought he would know better.

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Speaker 5: But and Darnold is the perfect example. He goes to

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Speaker 5: the Jets, the worst franchise in the history of the NFL,

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Speaker 5: and people are saying he's a bad quarterback. It's like

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Speaker 5: they can't put two and two together.

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Speaker 7: The Texans were a playoff team the previous year.

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Speaker 5: Tell me the additions they made to their offense besides Stroud.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but why aren't you yelling at the Texans? They

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Speaker 7: they this is malpractice?

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Speaker 5: Then Rich the people that you know incorrectly put the

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Speaker 5: blame on c. DE Stroud.

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Speaker 7: Well, he does take some blame, don't you think he

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Speaker 7: looked horrible. He couldn't hold onto the football. I mean,

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Speaker 7: those are some of the worst games that we've seen

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Speaker 7: in recent memory for a quarterback. Now you can bring

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Speaker 7: up the offensive line, but he was fumbling the ball.

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Speaker 7: He couldn't hold on to it.

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Speaker 5: Listen, he did not play well.

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Speaker 7: But to.

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Speaker 5: Say that there's some doubt about his future over that.

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Speaker 2: Is, so you're going to give him fifty five sixty

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year moving forward?

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Speaker 5: Give it to Would you give it to Bryce Young?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 5: Comical? Okay, So who else would you give it to?

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Speaker 5: What are they going to do? They're gonna go back

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Speaker 5: into the draft? Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 7: No, maybe you get him for thirty five million.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he realizes that he's not getting sixty million and

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Speaker 2: and and maybe you do salvage something here. But am

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Speaker 2: I giving you want to give him sixty million? Go ahead?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't give Bryce Young sixty million dollars

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Speaker 2: a year. But that'll be the going rate if you

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Speaker 2: really love him, you think he's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully they build around him.

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Speaker 5: You pay him what he's worth, and you don't beat

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Speaker 5: people over the head for things that don't that they

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Speaker 5: are out of their control. You're going to leverage him

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Speaker 5: because they've got a crummy offensive line. You're going to

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Speaker 5: leverage his ability to make money because they've got a

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Speaker 5: crumby offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Well, you then pay him sixty million. Good luck with that, Rich.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're the president of the cj Stround fan

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Speaker 2: club there. This isn't personal, Lane, Yeah, I know. This

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Speaker 2: isn't personal.