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Speaker 2: Hi, let's you're live on a Halloween Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program Merely Bow the Great Z. It's an NFL

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Speaker 2: trade deadline Halloween Tuesday edition. Tuesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how are you living? Terrible? Jimmy Garoppolo made me

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Speaker 3: want to claw my eyes out last night.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't watch I can't watch anyone bad ball. I've

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Speaker 2: seen enough bad ball. The Lions are finn I like

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Speaker 3: They're fine.

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Speaker 2: They are yeah, but I just I just see too

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Speaker 2: much incompetent the NFL right now. This last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: and we had somebody on. I asked about it a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and I said, it just feels

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Speaker 2: like it's a lot of bad ball, and they said, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe would have felt like this a year ago, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is now like a month of bad ball.

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Speaker 2: There's not that many teams out there, even the best

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Speaker 2: been like they're seven and one because they're so damn talented,

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Speaker 2: but they haven't had like they're like, watch this. Miami's

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Speaker 2: had their watch this, Buffalo's had to watch this. Kansas

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Speaker 2: City soort of has. But they laid an egg as

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Speaker 2: big as you can lay on Sunday. It's just week

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Speaker 2: to week. There's not a lot of great ball being

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Speaker 2: played out there. I think there's compelling ball, though, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's hard to playpelling different than great. Usually there's

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Speaker 2: a couple of great teams, and I think for me,

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about blowouts. I'm talking about competitive games

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Speaker 2: where two teams are competent.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of that. The Washington Philly this week.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty good. It's like a back

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Speaker 3: and forth, very competitive.

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Speaker 2: But is that a Philly team playing to its level?

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Speaker 3: I know A. J. Brown was doing pretty outrageous things

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Speaker 3: six straight games of one hundred and twenty five yards.

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Speaker 4: He's very good.

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Speaker 2: But they don't like Hurtz feels like he's a little

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Speaker 2: hurt all the time. Hurt, so they're dealing with that.

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Speaker 2: They're just it's not a lot of great You could

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Speaker 2: go ahead, you can canvas for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You canvas for the greatness of it. I love the

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Speaker 3: NFL and the greatness I love the Football League. The

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Speaker 2: But Jimmy Garoppolo, by the way, number one rated show

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Speaker 2: all last weekend was up against US Bengals and Niners.

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Speaker 3: Was number one show on all of television last weekend? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight million? Twenty eight million? Was that on? Who

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Speaker 3: was that on? Who carried that? BBS? CBS got that?

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Speaker 3: If Fox supposedly had their biggest single header, and whatever

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Speaker 3: the heck that means. I don't know how you can

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Speaker 3: have a single header twenty eight million? Watch that one? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because big deal than national football. Well, we like to

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Speaker 3: gamble and we like to play fantasy football is good

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Speaker 3: for those things. It's great for him. Nothing's better. But

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Speaker 3: did you so you didn't watch any of the game. No?

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Speaker 3: I watched it.

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Speaker 2: I had it on, But then it got to a

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Speaker 2: point where it was incompetent from the Raiders, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to watch a team have one hundred

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Speaker 3: Mean DeVonta Adams should have had a ninety eight yard touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: We had literally diagnosed it perfectly. Yeah, I down twelve,

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Speaker 3: couldn't have been more wide open, could not have been

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Speaker 3: and missed him by thirty yards twice, the.

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Speaker 2: One where he's running down the left side, just there

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Speaker 3: Uncovered, Yes, totally uncovered that. That's a uh, he needs

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Speaker 3: to get out of there, that whole situation. Well, you've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they look like they're miserable humans. They just can't

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Speaker 3: Clearly they can't stand him. It was pretty obvious to

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Speaker 3: me Devontae Adams has had it with Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was pretty apparent last night as well. Lions love

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Speaker 3: the helmets. Put it over white, as you said, or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had two choices on that. The lids are clean.

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Speaker 2: It's a clean look great. Honolulu blue is beautiful, but

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Speaker 2: over silver. But the blue over the all gray was

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Speaker 2: a total fail. And the idea and then the Raiders

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Speaker 2: in white over gray, it just looked awful, the grays

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Speaker 2: think back of their of the Barry Sanders era ones,

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Speaker 2: I mean it was a bright silver and this is

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Good, but they're good.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we all mocked not as much

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Speaker 2: we mocked that draft of Gibbs and Laporta and Campbell.

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Speaker 3: They're all Florida Campbell. What's Campbell doing?

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Speaker 2: They're all dudes. He starts almost every game, plays the

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Speaker 2: whole time. Gibbs had one hundred and fifty six yards

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Speaker 2: They got three guys, they got three starters in their draft.

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Speaker 2: I mean the first three picks. It's all kind of worked.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Camel guys any good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he is not, but I mean

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Speaker 3: No Laporte's and they got him in second around. That's

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Speaker 3: a great pick. Laporte has been on it from day one.

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Speaker 3: You were all over that too, when you're some of

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Speaker 3: think it was that Risiden guy talked about that. I

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Speaker 3: mean he's got he gave me the heads up on it,

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Speaker 3: and eight games he's got thirty four tackles in a sack. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he starts. He started four out of eight games. I

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Speaker 3: think he's been though the last month. That's when it's

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Speaker 3: been when he's become he's become a starter, elevated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, they're winning and they got some dudes

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Speaker 2: and their fun team to watch.

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Speaker 3: They are fun team to watch. I enjoy them. And

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Speaker 3: they got smoked by the Ravens. That's the thing. When

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the primetime games have been largely bad. I think

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Speaker 2: if you go, I just think consistently, week in and

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks. There's a crisis at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: There's a one hundred percent of crisis at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them that have gotten hurt. We're down.

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Speaker 2: You know how many starters are we down from? I mean,

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Speaker 3: So if you were to look at it, our guy

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Speaker 2: Of eighty he also went. But even Burrow if you

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Speaker 3: Then obviously he's back now.

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Speaker 2: But I mean you haven't gotten the full complement of

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Speaker 3: He's been pretty good. C J. Stroud yep. Nobody with

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Speaker 2: They have no roster around him at all.

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Speaker 3: dreadful to watch without Kirk Cousins. They got to get

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Speaker 3: winced in today. They gotta do something. They can go

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Speaker 3: one in two ways.

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Speaker 2: They can either go that way and try to piecemeal

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Speaker 2: it and say, look, we're in the NFC and Philly's

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Speaker 2: really good, Dallas is pretty good, Detroit's pretty good. San

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Speaker 2: Francisco I still think is pretty good. But we can

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Pretty straightforward in the NFC at four

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Speaker 2: and four, if we get competent quarterback play at all, yep,

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Speaker 2: competent explosive quarterback play at all. Or they could do

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Speaker 2: the other thing and they could say, hey, we lost

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Speaker 2: our quarterback, it's time to sell off some pieces Daniel Hunter,

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Speaker 3: Could go the other way with it.

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Speaker 3: I think if you have Jefferson and Addison, you need

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Speaker 2: It's got to be Winston him or Tannehill Jacoby, I

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Speaker 2: guess could be Dealt today too, though, so who knows.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that those feel like you got to

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Speaker 2: They could be a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. But the question is that that Quacy has

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Speaker 3: to ask himself and Kevin O'Connell, is do we want

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Speaker 3: to be a playoff team at the expense of our

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Speaker 3: because he's not gonna They're gonna be the Bear's gonna

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Speaker 2: Trade deadline is today at four o'clock. Oddly, the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: announced that they're gonna start Clayton Tune or Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: So Clayton Tune out of Houston, I believe, Yeah, Houston.

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Speaker 3: So I read something from somebody there that they feel

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Speaker 2: So then Dobbs, what you wonder, like, is he long

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Speaker 3: Made it sound like Tannehill would start if he could play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you see what else they did? So

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Speaker 3: I don't see how they could. How could you own

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Speaker 2: It's not the same color as the one the oilers wore,

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Speaker 2: and it's white dark red, and their colors are white

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Speaker 3: Like really, why get into that? Why? I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Tennessee, If you like the damn uniforms

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Speaker 2: The last time they changed their uniforms. They got rid

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Speaker 2: You will recall, Yeah, when McNair and Eddie were there,

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Speaker 2: Just wear those and put a T on the helmet.

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Speaker 2: How about this, why not just be the Tennessee Oilers.

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Speaker 2: Well that's another one. I don't have any idea why

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Speaker 2: but that's even like it's fine. Maybe the Association Seattle

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Speaker 2: They learned from here and they kept that all in Seattle,

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Speaker 2: But so then I'm trying to think who else would

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Speaker 3: It's most of it's been NBA.

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Speaker 2: I think they were the Cleveland Rams to Saint Louis

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Speaker 3: Saint Lewis Cardinals or the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: The Rams went from here to LA then to Saint Louis,

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Speaker 3: Told you had to work out with him last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that perhaps they think that he can you give

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Speaker 2: What do you think the mindset is today for Andrew Berry.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Clayton tune and I'll answer that question

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Speaker 3: edge player that can be not only a part of

434
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Speaker 3: our program this year, but part of our program next year,

435
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Speaker 3: then I think that he would be interested in that

436
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Speaker 3: at the right price. I think that it is very

437
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Speaker 3: difficult to contemplate going all in on just this season

438
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Speaker 3: alone when you don't know what the status of your

439
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 3: quarterback is. And I'll go back to it. I've said it,

440
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: I'll say it again. The Browns ultimate success this season

441
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 3: and it is the ould Ti team game. That is true.

442
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: But the brown success this season rides on DeShawn Watson's

443
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Speaker 3: ability to come back and play good football. That's a period,

444
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 3: full stop. That's it. Yep, that's where that's that's going

445
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: to determine what this season is. There's no quarterback out

446
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Speaker 3: there that you trade for that you think has any

447
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: impact on your ability to win a Super Bowl DeShawn Watson.

448
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Speaker 3: If the Browns are gonna win a Super bol it's

449
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 3: gonna be with Shaw Watson playing at quarterback. And that's

450
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Speaker 3: just the reality of the situation. So we don't know

451
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Speaker 3: what's going to happen this week. I've said it and

452
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Speaker 3: I will say it again. I think that I think

453
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: it's very important that he gets his feet wet this

454
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Speaker 3: week before we go to Baltimore. Now, if that's if

455
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Speaker 3: it's physically possible. If that is physically impossible, then that's

456
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Speaker 3: it just is what it is. But if it is

457
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Speaker 3: physically possible for him to go out there and play

458
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: this week, I think it's very important. Take on an

459
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Speaker 3: Arizona team that's given up seventy percent completions, given up

460
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Speaker 3: a quarterback rating, a team that you should start a

461
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 3: rookie starting like we should. If they start playing to

462
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 3: we should shut them out. I mean, this should be

463
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Speaker 3: a shutout. That should be that should be the goal

464
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Speaker 3: in this game.

465
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Speaker 4: Yep.

466
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Speaker 3: They should not get double digit points like we should.

467
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: We should not have to do a whole lot on

468
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Speaker 3: offense to win. But I think it would be a

469
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 3: great tune up for him because then it's then it's

470
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: gonna get real hard at Baltimore at home Pittsburgh, and

471
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: those are huge, huge games. I think the of course

472
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Speaker 3: it can be done, but to go into Baltimore not

473
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Speaker 3: having played since you know, the Tennessee game, really I

474
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Speaker 3: think would be a very daunting task. No kidding, Yep, yeah,

475
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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: That's and the only one who's going to know is him.

477
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Speaker 2: You know, he's the one who's going to who controls

478
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Speaker 2: it as the week goes along, and so right, that's

479
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Speaker 2: the thing that you have to do today, is there

480
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Speaker 2: has to be you know. You know it's interesting because

481
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Speaker 2: he talked last week and he talked about how you know,

482
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Speaker 2: it could be this week, it could be next, it

483
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Speaker 2: might not be, it might be then. And it's like

484
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Speaker 2: the only barometer of that is you, right, because there's

485
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Speaker 2: no other way to examine or to there's nothing. So

486
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: it's it's just are you comfortable in playing? And until

487
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Speaker 2: that answers yes, then you're kind of just treading right.

488
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Speaker 3: And so what's what and what is it that you

489
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Speaker 3: know will make you feel like you are comfortable playing?

490
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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it something with velocity? Is it something

491
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Speaker 3: with pain? Is it something with right? You know, your

492
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Speaker 3: ability as you feel like to drive the football. Those

493
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Speaker 3: are the questions that need to be answered for us

494
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Speaker 3: to have any type of clarity on the situation. I

495
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Speaker 3: also think with the benefit of this week, you know,

496
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Speaker 3: do you consider going with dtr giving him a full

497
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Speaker 3: week of practice and playing, because this is a guy

498
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Speaker 3: who at least completed sixty nine percent of his passes

499
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: in college, Like we're going at sub fifty percent right now.

500
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: The turnovers, as we've talked about, have been you know,

501
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Speaker 3: crippling to the semen out. Yet we've still won two

502
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Speaker 3: these three games with PJ. But you know, I would

503
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: think DTR can give you at least what Pj's given you,

504
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Speaker 3: and then the questions become can he give you maybe

505
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Speaker 3: a little more more than that in terms of being

506
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Speaker 3: able to see things and deliver the football accurately, because

507
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: you know, you look at our games right now. So PJ.

508
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: Walker turned it over three times last week, two times

509
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Speaker 3: against Indy, two times against the Niners. So that's six turnovers, right,

510
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: three two to oh seven seven seven giveaways in three games.

511
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Speaker 3: Can't have it. And I know DTR turned it over

512
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Speaker 3: three times against Baltimore.

513
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Speaker 2: He got an hour and a half head start. I

514
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: don't know why that's being held against him.

515
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Speaker 3: I don't think it should be. I don't think it

516
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: should I think those were impossible circumstances against it. Very

517
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Speaker 3: what's turned out to be a top three defense, really.

518
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Speaker 2: Good team, and you have an hour and a half,

519
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're starting, and that's stuff.

520
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Speaker 3: And the difference is that whole game plan that was

521
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Speaker 3: put in was not a game plan that was for him,

522
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Speaker 3: So he got reps in practice, but everything that was

523
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Speaker 3: in with four de Shawn because prior to that moment. Now,

524
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Speaker 3: of course you make changes on the fly, but that's

525
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Speaker 3: a very very difficult situation. And when you're trying to

526
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Speaker 3: match wits with the quarterback of the d defense and

527
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Speaker 3: that quarterback of the defense happens to be ro Qwan

528
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: Smith in your first start, that's gonna affect you. And

529
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Speaker 3: you're not going to run into that. With this Arizona

530
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: Cardinals defense, you can you can be just fine against

531
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Speaker 3: this team. So I wonder, I wonder if that's something

532
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Speaker 3: that they're contemplating. I think PJ is a gamer. I

533
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: thought we saw from kind of the second quarter through

534
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Speaker 3: the end of the third quarter the best football that

535
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Speaker 3: he's played, and that was tantalizing. But at the end

536
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Speaker 3: of the day, he ends up fifteen of thirty one.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're on the season with him right now,

538
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Speaker 3: forty nine point five percent completions, sixty eight hundred and

539
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Speaker 3: eighteen yards, one touchdown, five picks, two lost fumbles, and

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Speaker 3: a quarterback rating of fifty one point eight. I mean,

541
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Speaker 3: I know dtr hasn't played well and he did get

542
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Speaker 3: one rep he completed a pass for nine yards on

543
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Speaker 3: a shovel pass to David Djoku last week. I just

544
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Speaker 3: wonder if this week you say, all right, we're gonna

545
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Speaker 3: go pick one thirty nine against pick one or forty

546
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Speaker 3: and let's see what happens. Yeah, I'm with you. That's

547
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Speaker 3: not a knock on PJ. I think PJA he's been

548
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Speaker 3: a gamer. He's made big plays when we needed him

549
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: to make big plays. I think that we know what

550
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: we're currently doing is not sustainable. And the question becomes,

551
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Speaker 3: do you believe that that can change with the same

552
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Speaker 3: quarterback or do you think that necessitates if any giving

553
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Speaker 3: somebody else.

554
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Speaker 2: A chance, if any game, and if anyone has a

555
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: soft landing spot, it's Arizona like if you don't so, yeah, no,

556
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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

557
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Speaker 3: That's why I want to shine. I think ultimately the

558
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Speaker 3: best thing for the Browns is if Deshaun Watson is

559
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Speaker 3: feels that he is close enough we're able to go

560
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Speaker 3: that he plays this week, has some success, probably get

561
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Speaker 3: some confidence in his body and in his arm and

562
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Speaker 3: in this and what we're doing. Before you go into Baltimore.

563
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Speaker 3: You're five and three going in there. That's a big game. Yeah,

564
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: it's a huge game. That's a big game because you

565
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Speaker 3: don't want to get swept in this air off.

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Speaker 2: This week, well they have they have Theattle at home.

567
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Speaker 2: Seattle at home. That's right, because we inverted Yep, they

568
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Speaker 2: time for a little after further row view, Oh, baby boy,

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Speaker 2: that was nice.

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Speaker 3: How that timed out? Right?

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Speaker 2: You get that right into there? Yeah, that worked out

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Speaker 2: very very well.

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Speaker 3: All right, doc to ze.

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Speaker 2: After further review, what stood out offensively?

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Speaker 3: All right, A couple things stood out. We're gonna give

593
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: him to you right now. Thing number one after the Browns.

594
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: The Brown's first scoring drive was an absolute masterpiece of

595
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Speaker 3: play calling. Started off with the screen to the right

596
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt for twelve yards. Yeah, then he had to

597
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: throwout screen to Pierre Strong for forty and then the

598
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: fake screen left, fake screen right, Chief Leak takes a

599
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: huge hit. PJ Walker stands in the pocket, delivers the football.

600
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Speaker 3: It was the exact same play the Niners had run there.

601
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Speaker 3: I thought that was incredible. I just thought that was

602
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 3: what do you think about dialing something up against an

603
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: opponent and going three plays the length of the field

604
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: with all screen screen, fake screen, fake screen. I thought

605
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: that was just wild to watch.

606
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Speaker 2: He's it's I mean, manufacturing yes, space and offense.

607
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's being.

608
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Speaker 2: Manufactured without a lot of people.

609
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Speaker 3: Yep, no, without a lot of people. It's been. It's

610
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: really been something. Thing Number two for me is I

611
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 3: think Pierre Strong is a thing. I like Pierre Strong.

612
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: I like his acceleration. I think it jumps off the

613
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: page when you watch him. He's averaging four point six

614
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: yards per carry this year, which other than Nick Chubb,

615
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: is the most for any running back on our team.

616
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: You look at him after contact, he's averaging three point

617
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: five eight yards after contact per run. That's really good.

618
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: The only person who did better than that again at

619
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Speaker 3: running back this year Nick Chubb, who was at four

620
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Speaker 3: point zero. So I think Pierre Strong is showing things

621
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Speaker 3: that lead me to believe this guy has a chance

622
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: to be a very, very good and important player for

623
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Speaker 3: us down the stretch. He's your number two.

624
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: He's got a gear as soon as he gets the ball.

625
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: That's a little different. He's like, this is what he

626
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: reminds me of. He reminds me of a tesla, and

627
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Speaker 3: that when he puts it down it's instant. He doesn't

628
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: have to go through gears. It's just like boom full.

629
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Speaker 2: I don't know if what the hyena is like, but

630
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: I know from year to year is really fast.

631
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Speaker 3: So he ran the fastest. He was the fastest running

632
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: back at the twenty twenty two combine four point three

633
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: seven forty. So I think he's I think he's got

634
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: some he's got some juice. In first career, he's averaging

635
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: well over six yards of cary. Now that was buttressed

636
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: by the fact his first ten carries went for one

637
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Speaker 3: hundred yards and I think including a touchdown maybe even

638
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: against the Arizona Cardinals in his rookie seasons. Member of

639
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: the Patriots, but he is I'm excited about him. I

640
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: think that he really does have a chance to be

641
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: something here for the Browns as a compliment to what

642
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: you're getting out of Cream Hunt as well as what

643
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: you're getting out of you know, Jerome Fort, Jerome Fort.

644
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, South to go to state Jack Pierre Strong.

645
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Yeah, one.

646
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Speaker 2: Of the their number one team in one double A

647
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: right now, really yeah they are yep, Yeah, that's.

648
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Speaker 3: A good job.

649
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: All right, what else do you have?

650
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 4: One?

651
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: More? Yeah? Touchdown by the way last year did come

652
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: against Arizona. Five carries, seventy yards and a house call

653
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: in that one his first NFL touchdown before he scored

654
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: again this year, we two against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

655
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: How hard it is to be noticed and be given

656
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: chances starting at a place like the South Kota State

657
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: thing like, how hard that is to.

658
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: Overcome all of it? Yeah, I just I'm shocked that

659
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: the Patriots felt like they couldn't find a role for him,

660
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: that they acquired Ezekiel Elliott as opposed to just keeping him. Yeah,

661
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: with as a compliment or remind right now, they probably

662
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: maybe it was a case of they coveted Tyrone Wheatley

663
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: Junior that much. Then we said, well, you're only getting

664
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: him if you give us Pierre Strong. But it felt

665
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: like from reports that he wasn't going to make their

666
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: fifty three. Anyway, I like him a lot. I like

667
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: that juice. I like that acceleration all right. After further review,

668
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: after review, David Nijok, Who's having a great season despite

669
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: the fact that it hasn't necessarily manifested itself like it

670
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: has for some of the other what I would call

671
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: premiere tight ends in the season. And it is not

672
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: for a lack of trying, certainly on the Chief's part.

673
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: I think that He's played very very well. Thirty nine targets,

674
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: twenty eight catches, two hundred ninety three yards. He got

675
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: his first touchdown last week. He's catching over seventy percent

676
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: of the passes that are thrown his way. He's doing

677
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 3: that for the second straight season. He's averaging, you know,

678
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: between seven and a half and eight yards per target

679
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: this year, and he is. Here's the thing, he has

680
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: gotten the majority of his yards himself. What do I

681
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: mean by that? What I mean by that is that

682
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: we said he has two hundred and ninety three yards.

683
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: Of the two hundred and ninety three yards that he

684
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: has so far this year, two hundred and forty three

685
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: of them have come after the catch. Two hundred and

686
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: forty three of them have come after the catch. Do

687
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: you know what the average depth of target for David

688
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: Njoku is this year? Much? Three point seven yards? It

689
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: feels like three point seven yards. It's been a lot

690
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: of screens that he's obviously been very good at. But

691
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: I want to see David Ajoku get involved as a

692
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: player not only in the short area but down the field.

693
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: Bo question, how many passes of his thirty nine targets

694
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: of his thirty nine targets. Do you think went more

695
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: more than ten yards in the air? Ten? Five, five.

696
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: This is the guy who can run un They can

697
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: run seam he can. We saw it in the preseason.

698
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: He's been that's brutal.

699
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: Man.

700
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty seven of his twenty eight catches have come

701
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: within ten yards of the line of scrimmage. Nine of

702
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: them have been behind the line of scrimmage or at

703
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. The eighteen of them have been

704
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: between zero and ten yards. That's brutal. By the way,

705
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: when you target David Djoku, for the most part, good

706
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: things happen. And I want to see him be utilized

707
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: in more areas than just a short area. I love

708
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: what he's able to do after the catch. I like

709
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: the idea of getting him in space.

710
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: You have some breaking news giving I do go Vikings

711
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: trading for Josh Dobbs from the Arizona Cardinals.

712
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: There you go. Once he was benched, you felt like

713
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: he was on the move. Familiarity there with you know

714
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: the guys who are the Browns north They are north

715
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: of here, aren't they geographically speaking? Yeah, yeah, a little northwest,

716
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: so they're Josh Jobs will go and that's it. That's

717
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: interesting to me. I agree. I think if you're going

718
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: to make a move with your receivers, like I'd want

719
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: somebody who can sling it like Jamis. And now maybe

720
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: Jamis isn't.

721
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: Available, but my only job would be making sure that

722
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson is happy and Adamson and Addison but Addison's

723
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: they can't go anywhere one but like I would want Jefferson,

724
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: especially Hawkinson absolutely like Jamis will stat them up. Yes,

725
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: he would have statted them up. And Josh Soobbs is

726
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: not going to staff them up.

727
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: He is not anyway. Point three being David Ajoku is

728
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: having a very good year. We need to find ways

729
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: to get him the football down the field. Now I

730
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: caveat all of this, and which my next point is

731
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: gonna be I'm gonna get to it again, is that

732
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: with what we've had to go through at quarterback, our

733
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: receivers are not being properly targeted. In many cases, they

734
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: are not properly being thrown to where they can run

735
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: after the catch. It's amazing, So I told you those

736
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: run after the catchat on the flip side of that

737
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: are things that are maybe not as good, right, And

738
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: So what I mean by that is you've got David

739
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: Ajoku with two hundred and forty three of his two

740
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety three yards after the catch. This is

741
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: the one to me that's wild. Elijah Moore's got one

742
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: hundred yards after the catch, Amari Cooper's got eighty three

743
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: yards after the catch. They're averaging two point eight and

744
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: three point eight Amari two point eight, Elijah three point

745
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: eight yards after the catch, respectively. You've got to number one,

746
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: get the ball down the field. And really the only

747
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: person that you are doing that to average upt of

748
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: target for Amari Cooper is fourteen point seven. For Chief

749
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 3: I said three point seven yards, Elijah nine point four,

750
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: DPJ eleven point nine. He's just not getting any opportunities

751
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: really in the games. We're not pushing the ball to anybody,

752
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: and I think that's part of, you know, the limitations

753
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: we're dealing with at the quarterback position. And then my

754
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 3: fourth thing is guys like DPJ, Guys like Elijah Moore,

755
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: when you watch the tape of this game, especially, they

756
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: were open a lot and in critical situations, and in fact,

757
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore should have had at least one if not

758
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: to walk in touchdowns in that game, we've got to

759
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: be able to deliver the football to people who and

760
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 3: a busted coverage run free right over the middle of

761
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: the field. Your job as a backup quarterback is that

762
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: the layups are layups.

763
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: You don't need to make the big, dynamic plays. You

764
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: don't need to hit it to chief down the seam like.

765
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: That's nice, but it's not required. Yes, the layups have

766
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: to be layups, and that is what makes a successful quarterback.

767
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the defensive side. It's a

768
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: sensful backup Breavin.

769
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 3: All right. So this is something that's stuck out on tape.

770
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 3: This was an odd game in terms of the fact

771
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: that the Browns were able to generate a lot of

772
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: pressure on Geno Smith, but they weren't able to get

773
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: them down. And I think the next step, and especially

774
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: for a guy like Zadaria Smith. Zadaria Smith and Obo

775
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: Karanko in this game had eleven combined pressures that resulted

776
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: in no sacks. Yep. And I think for Zadarius what

777
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: he's done to this team has been so very valuable.

778
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: He just hasn't finished it. Here's what's wild. Miles Garrett

779
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: has thirty six pressures this season. He has eight and

780
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: a half sacks, so he's averaging basically a sack for

781
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: every four pressures r forest pressures. Zadarius has twenty five

782
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: pressures twenty five and has one sack. They both have

783
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: the same number of quarterback hits too, according to PFF.

784
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: Now you go the quarterback hits, that add the sack

785
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: non sack quarterback hits. So that puts miles at sixteen

786
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: for Zadarius or sixteen seventeen depending on ifuse next gen

787
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: Stancy's profil focus and it's half of that for Zadarius.

788
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 3: So he has been very effective. He just hasn't been

789
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: able to finish some of these plays. I think that

790
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: that is coming. That's that's thing number one after further

791
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: review number two after review mj Emerson continues to his

792
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: ascent into the elite in my opinion, and the final

793
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: stats they tell you targeted eleven times, gave up five

794
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: catches in this one, a quarterback rating of twenty seven

795
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: when targeted. You'll love that, yep. But I'm going to

796
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: go back to a three play sequence on the last

797
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: drive of the first half, three plays prior to his interception.

798
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: They ran a speed out with DK metcalf and he

799
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: was opened by a good five yards and that was

800
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: one where Gino Smith just missed him, kind of threw

801
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: it in the ground. Yep. Three pays later, they went

802
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: back to the well and MJ recognized it, undercut it

803
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: and picked the ball off. And I thought that was awesome.

804
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: That is just great recognition and great ability to then

805
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: come back and deal and deal with it and make

806
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: a play for the defense. I was very pleased with

807
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: that with MJ Emerson, number two, number three, number three

808
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: ye after review. Maurice Hurst has been unbelievable. The interception

809
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: we talked about yesterday, getting the pop up, all of that.

810
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: What he's been able to do in the run game

811
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: as well has been nothing short of sensational. His great

812
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: at Pro Football Focus this week was ninety two point four,

813
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: one of the highest rates in the league. He got

814
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: a pressure, he had run stops, he had tackles for loss.

815
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: He's been all over the field and he has been

816
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: playing at a very very high level for this Browns team.

817
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: And you look at pressures on the season, he's number

818
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: five on our team in quarterback pressures. Miles on Zadaris

819
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: two Obo three, Todalvin four, Maurice Hurst five. And he's

820
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: been very good in terms of making run stops at

821
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. He's been very good at making

822
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: run stops behind the line of scrimmage. Maurice Hurst has

823
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: been a real bright spot for the Cleveland Browns. And

824
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: in fact, again these are just PFF grades, but he

825
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: would be the number two player on our defense this

826
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: year in terms of their grading behind Miles Garrett. That's wild,

827
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: all right. Fourth and final after review. One of the

828
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 3: things that the Browns need to work on as a defense,

829
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: and one of the areas that they were they got

830
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: hurt a little bit in this game would be in

831
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: the screen games and the ability to have turned short

832
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: passes into longer gains. And I think that that was

833
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: a big problem for the Browns in this one, in

834
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: the sense that on shortish passes they were giving up

835
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 3: too much to this Seattle Seahawks team. You know, Tyler

836
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: Lockett comes to mind on a couple of those short ones.

837
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: You think of Jackson Smith and Jigba and his ability

838
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: after the catch to go. He had thirty eight yards

839
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: of yak on thirty six yards. Thirty six yards of receptions. Yep,

840
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: so do the math. Those short wide receiver screens, he

841
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: was able to get a touchdown on one of them.

842
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: He was able to get twenty two yards on another

843
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: of yak. Those things have to be cleaned up by

844
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, and I'd even go to that comes

845
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: part of the tackling at the end of the game.

846
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: You know, Noah Fant goes twenty seven yards on a

847
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: four yard completion, Yeah, twenty three of them. After the

848
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: catch he had twenty had thirty two yards receiving twenty

849
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: seven on yak. We had caf to limit the yak

850
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: when we went through our numbers of yak number two

851
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 3: in our teams, one hundred yards for this season. Yeah,

852
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: thirty yards of game is not a lot. And that's

853
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: what Jason's spent jigmated in one game. If he done

854
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: over the course of seven I'm not a math major,

855
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: it's two hundred and ten yards. That's double what we're

856
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: getting from our number two guys. So there's a YAK

857
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: problem on both sides of the ball, one and us

858
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: allowing it, and two in our offenses inability to generate

859
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: that YAK. Good joby to you. That's after for the review.

860
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: Very good job.

861
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: All right.

862
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: One thought coming up, we'll also go into some of

863
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Speaker 3: More on that dot or is he. According to multiple

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Speaker 3: online reports, the Browns have signed tackle Garan Christiansen, running

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00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: back Kenyan Drake, and wide receiver James Prosche formerly of

880
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: the Ravens, to the practice squad. They've released running backs

881
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: Nate McCrary and Jordan Wilkins. In addition, the team has

882
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 3: placed tackle Tye in Sekie biceps on the practice squad injured.

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Speaker 2: Kenyan Drake's obviously the one you know the most. He's

884
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Speaker 2: the out former Alabama product. Was he in He's been

885
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: in Miami, He's bounced around a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Was he in Pittsburgh for a little while? Kenyan Drake

887
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: ye Baltimore, Baltimore, Arizona. He ran for like one hundred

888
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: and thirty yards and four touchdowns against US as a

889
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: member the Arizona Cardinals back in twenty nineteen. Yeah, Drake's

890
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: when you know, Prosha has been in the league for

891
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: a while. I don't know that he's done much. Garan Christian,

892
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: a former third round pick, hasn't started a game in

893
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: a couple of years at tackle, but a former third

894
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: round pick of Washington so most recently.

895
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake with the Ravens the last couple of years,

896
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: then the Raiders Cardinals and started his career in Miami

897
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: forty four starts in one hundred and two games.

898
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: James Proche twenty five catches, two hundred and seventy eight yards,

899
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: no touchdowns in his career all with the Ravens. He

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Speaker 3: was a sixth round pick of the Ravens in the

901
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty draft out of SMU. There you go.

902
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: There, it is, so there is. That's what's happening right now.

903
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Those are all that's all practice squad stuff. The NFL

904
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Speaker 2: trade deadline is four o'clock. We mentioned Marte Montes. Sweat

905
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Speaker 2: traded at the top of the show from Washington to Chicago.

906
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Speaker 2: We had a trade yesterday. The Giants traded Pro Bowl

907
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: defensive end Leonard Williams to the Seahawks. The Giants got

908
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Speaker 2: a second and a fifth in return for that one,

909
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Speaker 2: as he's a good players.

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Speaker 3: Heads west there.

911
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: The Steelers rules safety Mika Fitzpatrick out Thursday night, leaving

912
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Speaker 2: the door a jar for Kenny Pickett to play. They

913
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Speaker 2: need him to because Trubisky was dreadful, pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.

915
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Speaker 2: They hung with Mason Rudolph for all those years and

916
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: then made the switch to uh.

917
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Speaker 3: To Trubisky the last couple of years. So that's the

918
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Speaker 3: way that goes there. And I wouldn't listen. I'll be

919
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: like Gibbe, I don't mind who they play, just go

920
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: out there and take care of business. Tennessee Titans.

921
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Speaker 2: Well, if they let Lewis live, let him live.

922
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Levis Hopkins, Hopkins all of a sudden, it was back. Yeah.

923
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: Well Levis can throw down the field. Like.

924
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: The one thing he has is a strong arm. I

925
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: mean he's it was legendary and sec circles his ability

926
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Speaker 2: to throw the ball down the field. So he's got

927
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Speaker 2: the powerful arm that was always been there. That was

928
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Speaker 2: something that their offense hasn't had, and now they have it.

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Speaker 3: Well, especially when you think about having Derrick Henry as

930
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: your running back and then you have play action off

931
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Speaker 3: of that, you now have somebody who can actually take

932
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Speaker 3: the shots down the field. Yeah, and I wonder if

933
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Speaker 3: he can, you know, I think he's been banged up.

934
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much he's played, but they've got

935
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Speaker 3: nothing out of Treylon Burks so far in his young career.

936
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Speaker 2: You see why the GM gets fired. Like you have

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Speaker 2: aj Brown?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you Ade Brown has one hundred and twenty

939
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Speaker 3: five plus and six straight games, which I think is

940
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Speaker 3: a record, which is wild. He's killing it, absolutely killing it.

941
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Speaker 3: Se has catched the one hander. I mean he was like, no,

942
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Speaker 3: he's he's playing with such confidence right now it's it's

943
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Speaker 3: it's absolutely wild. We mentioned the Vikings cousins with the

944
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Speaker 3: torn Achilles. Jaren Hall played last week, but they did

945
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Speaker 3: make the acquisition of Josh Dobbs official or a not official,

946
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: but it's been reported here in the last ten minutes

947
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Speaker 3: that they'll go in that direction at quarterback. You think

948
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: he's you think he comes and starts right, not right,

949
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: he's been playing. They'll be able to get him in there,

950
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: get him in on he can get in on a Wednesday.

951
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: Practice similar schemes O'Connell and what Drew would be running

952
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: in Arizona. I would think that there would be stuff

953
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Speaker 2: that would be very much, very similar.

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Speaker 3: You might want to give Hall a look, maybe give

955
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: him a look. I think a week. I don't know

956
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: if you give Hall a look when if it doesn't

957
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: go well with Dobbs and you're you find yourself on the.

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00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Four four yeah right, Like I mean I to me,

959
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: I love Josh's he's awesome, love him, but and you

960
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: don't know what they get back or what was being

961
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: asked for Winston or even Jacoby, but like there were

962
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: other options out there. I think, yeah, that would have

963
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: given you, like Dobbs to me, doesn't change. It doesn't

964
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: change too much. No, not more competent than the other guy.

965
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Speaker 2: But like you're not, You're not scaring anybody in the NFC.

966
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he's good enough to get

967
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: you in. Does anybody like or.

968
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Speaker 3: Believe in Jamis as much as you? And I apparently not?

969
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: I guess not, apparently not, because I just think if

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00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: you have your point stat those dudes up. Yes, and

971
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: he will do that. He may throw two pick sixes

972
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: at a year, but.

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00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: I want Justin Jefferson and Jordan Andison happy. He will

974
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: spin it deep to them, let him live, And that

975
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 2: would have been my approach for it is to do that,

976
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: all right, Jake Trotter going to join us coming up

977
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: at two o'clock the latest on the trade deadline and

978
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: where we are right now with this season. You listen

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Our buddy ESPN's Jake

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00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Trotter joining us there. Jake, thanks so much for taking

992
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: the time. A slew of minor moves for the Browns

993
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: at this point, nothing from the trade side of it.

994
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 2: Do you think Andrew Berry will be busy between now

995
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: and four o'clock.

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00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 5: Well, I definitely think they're going to Canvas to see

997
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: what's available. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't make a trade.

998
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 5: I think the uncertainty at quarterback's probably contributed to or

999
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: I should say, maybe limiting what they might be able

1000
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: to do otherwise. But you never know. This team has

1001
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 5: surprised us in the past, so and they've always been

1002
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 5: very aggressive, and I think there's an opportunity to do something,

1003
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 5: they'll take a look at it. But again I would

1004
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 5: not be stunned if the moves they just made this

1005
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 5: afternoon were all that they did today.

1006
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: If if they were to make a move, and you

1007
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: mentioned the uncertainty of quarterback, where what positions do you

1008
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: think a move could be made at.

1009
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a lot of focus at running back.

1010
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: I never believed that that was where they would go,

1011
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 5: and I think the Kenyon Drake signing is more what

1012
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 5: I anticipated than doing, you know, kind of a depth

1013
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: move at that position. I thought coming into the month

1014
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 5: of October that receiver would be the position they potentially target.

1015
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: And that's why I say it's hard for them to

1016
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: make that move right now because we don't know exactly

1017
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 5: when Deshaun Watson is going to be back, and so

1018
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: it's just I think that complicates, you know, adding talent

1019
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 5: to that position, especially when you have guys like Cedric

1020
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: Tillman coming up that you would like to probably get

1021
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 5: some reps here at some point. You know, I think

1022
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 5: offensive line depths would maybe be an area that they

1023
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: could take a look at. You know, that was probably

1024
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: even before you know, Dwan Jones got banged up in

1025
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 5: that game. You know, they could probably use another body there.

1026
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: But that's kind of where I think they are. I

1027
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 5: don't see them doing anything significant defensively. I don't think

1028
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: you want to touch that defense the way that it's played.

1029
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, like receivers probably the position to watch, but

1030
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 5: you know, if you don't know when your quarterback is

1031
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 5: coming back, that that makes it difficult to make a

1032
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: move there.

1033
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's it, right, I mean, that's kind of where

1034
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: we all are with this thing. And Zee and I

1035
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: have talked about this throughout the first couple of days

1036
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: of the week of like that, and Z was embatic

1037
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: about this, like the one thing that can that can

1038
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: solidify all of this as Deshaun Watson playing the way

1039
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 2: that he played against Tennessee. But that's been a long

1040
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: time now, and that that's still hanging over the franchise

1041
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: right in the sense of when is he going to play?

1042
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: When he does play, what is he going to look like?

1043
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: Because we just haven't he hasn't played much and in

1044
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: two years and now we're that, you know, just kind

1045
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: of sit and wait, like I suppose we'll wait for

1046
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: Kevin tomorrow to have something on it, but who knows

1047
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: how that could go.

1048
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 5: And I think the other part of it, you know,

1049
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 5: he hasn't played in so long now, and when he

1050
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 5: has played this year, you know, really hasn't played well

1051
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 5: save for you know, a chunk of that Tennessee game.

1052
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 5: And so I think it's hard to evaluate, Okay, what

1053
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 5: do we need do we do we need a possession receiver?

1054
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 5: Do we need a big, physical downfield threat. Do we

1055
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 5: need to speed? Like I just it has been such

1056
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 5: a mess offensively really the entire season. I think it's

1057
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 5: difficult to evaluate the move that you would want to

1058
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 5: make in this particular situation. So again, I'm with you.

1059
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that the best move they could

1060
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 5: make at the trade deadline is their franchise quarterback playing

1061
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 5: and playing well, which outside of like one and a

1062
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 5: half games, we just haven't seen it. And there's nothing

1063
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: that they can do in this deadline that's going to

1064
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 5: be able to overcome that if it doesn't happen. So again,

1065
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson playing at a high level is really the

1066
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 5: only path that this team has to getting to where

1067
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 5: they hope to get, which was the super Bowl before

1068
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 5: the season.

1069
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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson is the solution, or Deshaun Watson must be

1070
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: the solution. Either way you want to phrase it. That's

1071
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: the real however you want to phrase it, Buddy, that's it.

1072
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: You're I couldn't agree with you more. Jake, what do

1073
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: you think we see him this week? I've said that

1074
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Speaker 3: if he's able to go physically, I think it's so

1075
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: important to get his feet wet against Arizona in an

1076
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: easier matchup before you go on the road Baltimore home

1077
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in two division games. So if there's obviously it's

1078
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: going to be up to what he is able to

1079
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: do physically and functionally. But if there's any way, I

1080
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: think it's so important to get him out here this week.

1081
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: Do you think we see him this week? Oh?

1082
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 5: I agree with you, But what you don't want is

1083
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: what we saw against Indy, where he plays a quarter

1084
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: against Arizona, comes out, and then he's out for the

1085
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 5: two most important games of the year at Baltimore and

1086
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 5: against Pittsburgh. So I have no idea Nathan like when

1087
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 5: he's going to be back. I like, I would say

1088
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: that there's a chance that he could play against Arizona,

1089
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 5: but I certainly wouldn't bet on it at this point,

1090
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 5: and I'm not going to bet on anything until I

1091
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 5: see him out there. You know, stringing together a series

1092
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: of full practices. So, I mean, who I think it'd

1093
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 5: be really tough, just based on what we've seen from

1094
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 5: him when he hasn't played in a while, to ask

1095
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 5: him to go to Baltimore the way that they're playing

1096
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: and win that game. That and it's it's not a

1097
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 5: must win, but like, if you want to win the division,

1098
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: you can't lose that game. You have to win it.

1099
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 5: And that'd be tough if Sean Watson was playing at

1100
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 5: the peak of his powers, Like if they took twenty

1101
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 5: twenty to Shaun Watson up there, that would be a

1102
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 5: really difficult game. But asking him to step in there

1103
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 5: having not played since the Tennessee game really week three,

1104
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 5: and then you know, playing at a high level, just

1105
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 5: based on how rusty he is shown to be when

1106
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 5: he hasn't played in a while, I mean, it's really tough.

1107
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, like in an ideal world, you would love

1108
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 5: to see him get some confidence, to get some cohesion,

1109
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 5: some continuity offensively going into the Baltimore game from Arizona.

1110
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 5: But the guy did not practice at all last week,

1111
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 5: so who knows if he would be ready, you know,

1112
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 5: to go on Sunday.

1113
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: If Deshaun Watson isn't able to go on Sunday, do

1114
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: you stick with PJ Walker? Do you give DTR an

1115
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: opportunity to maybe get some momentum going. How would you

1116
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: view that quarterback situation for this particular game, given kind

1117
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: of the the ups and downs thus far of the

1118
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: PJ Walker experience.

1119
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 5: Well, I said this after the Baltimore game. I would

1120
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: not give up on DTR based on that performance. Now,

1121
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 5: I don't know that you bring him back this season.

1122
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 5: I don't know that I was you know, I've said that,

1123
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 5: but I think that they I think they put him

1124
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 5: in a tough spot. You know, I think Deshaun put

1125
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 5: him in a tough spot the organization because everybody, you

1126
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 5: guys know this, everybody thought to Shaun Watson was playing

1127
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: in the Baltimore game until about what two and a

1128
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 5: half hours before kickoff? Two hours before kickoff?

1129
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: Not even yeah yeah, yeah, nobody is.

1130
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, no one was prepared. And it showed. And so

1131
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 5: I still believe in the talent that DTR showed in

1132
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 5: the preseason. I still believe, uh that he has the

1133
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: potential to at the least be a very solid backup quarterback.

1134
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 5: And I think he's got a lot more let's say,

1135
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 5: you know, natural ability in a lot of ways than

1136
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 5: that PJ Walker. Even though I think PJ Walker is

1137
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 5: giving them everything that he could give, like you can't

1138
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 5: ask for anything more. You know, it's like they've exhausted

1139
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: every ounce of magic at at PJ Walker these last

1140
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 5: three games, and to PJ Walker's credit, going to and one,

1141
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 5: he's given them a chance to hang in there, Like

1142
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 5: you know, if they're two and five right now, season's

1143
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 5: over and Deshaun's Watson's not even back. So PJ Walker

1144
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 5: deserves a ton of credit. To answer your question, I

1145
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the

1146
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: right answer is. I mean I think.

1147
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: Right like that to me like that, that's the only thing.

1148
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but who's the same DCR woulden either if

1149
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: he got an opportunity. It's something that I might take

1150
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 5: a look at if you thought Deshaun Watson was going

1151
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: to be out two or three more games, you know, like, okay,

1152
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 5: can we really keep this going with PJ Walker? What

1153
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 5: else can we do? Let's give DTR another shot. The

1154
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 5: guy looked really good in the preseason, and you know,

1155
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: maybe we can better prepare him. But you leave the

1156
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: league and sit with seventeen turnovers like you're not going

1157
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 5: to go very far doing that. So the problem is

1158
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 5: all three of your quarterbacks that turn the ball over

1159
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 5: this year, I would consider it. I just I don't

1160
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 5: know if that's the magic elixir that's going to fix everything.

1161
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: You know, the damnedest thing is that this team is

1162
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: four and three.

1163
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: I know.

1164
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's with a team coming in here on

1165
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: Sunday that is very, very beatable, playing a rookie quarterback

1166
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 2: who you know, honestly you should be able to smother him, Jake,

1167
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: And so like you think about how good the defense

1168
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: has been. I mean it's not even just this quarterback stuff.

1169
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: I mean, no, Nick Chubb, Conklin, all of these things

1170
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: that have happened this season, and somehow this thing's four

1171
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: and three, and it's just from your perspective, it's been

1172
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: a tough cover, right, because the results are better. If

1173
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: I would have told you before the year that this

1174
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: is what was going to happen, and I would say,

1175
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah, through seven weeks, they're gonna be seven games,

1176
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: are going to be four and three, just said it

1177
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: was nuts, no chance, right.

1178
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: And very easily could be five and two. I think

1179
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 5: the issue and why, you know, if i'd asked all

1180
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 5: before the year, would you take four and three? I

1181
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: don't know if you would take four and three, but

1182
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 5: you would be like, all right, we're still in it

1183
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 5: at four and three, right, you.

1184
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: Take five and three, though, I think I think we

1185
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: would have taken that.

1186
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: I'd take four, knowing what I know now, I'd take.

1187
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: Four and three well for sure, But I'm saying I

1188
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: think they would even been okay under normal circumstances. For sure,

1189
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: five and three through the first eight would have been

1190
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: takeable with everybody healthy.

1191
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 5: I think so. But the problem is is that I

1192
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 5: think the way that they've gotten here is not really sustainable.

1193
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 5: The last of the NFL in like every by any

1194
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 5: measure in terms of quarterback performance, and it's just not sustainable.

1195
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 5: In the AFC, and now you kind of look around

1196
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: at the landscape and yeah, you're four and three, you're

1197
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: in it. If you go to Baltimore and win, you

1198
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 5: could win the division first division title in you know,

1199
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: since nineteen eighty nine, that would be on the table.

1200
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 5: But you look around and uh, you know, Cincinnati, they're back.

1201
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 5: I think we all agree like they're they're they're on

1202
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 5: the way, and so you know, if you don't win

1203
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 5: in Baltimore, you really gonna have to fight to get

1204
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 5: like into the playoffs. That six to seven spot just

1205
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 5: based on the landscape right now, so and it's gonna

1206
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 5: be really tough to get there if something dramatically doesn't

1207
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 5: turn around at the quarterback position, because the defense is

1208
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 5: gonna give you a chance. But at the end of

1209
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 5: the day, like if we're playing every game to the

1210
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 5: last drive, you're gonna win some, you're gonna lose some. Right,

1211
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 5: You're gonna go probably five hundred in those games. And

1212
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 5: that's kind of what we've seen so far. So a

1213
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 5: lot to like about this team. Love the way that

1214
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: they fought after getting down fourteen to nothing in that environment.

1215
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 5: I just think at the end of the day, you're

1216
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 5: just gonna have to have something happen at quarterback for

1217
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 5: this team to be a legit contender.

1218
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: Jake, you're the best man. Thanks for your time, buddy,

1219
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: greatly appreciate you.

1220
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 5: Okay, guys, Happy Halloween, Take.

1221
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: Care, Yeah you two. Pal.

1222
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: Jake Trotter of ESPN joining us versus the Twisted Tea

1223
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,360
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1225
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Speaker 2: up next, we go one Thought around the League a

1226
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Speaker 2: little higher lower as well. You listening to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: League in week eight, Hello, gimmick, Hi.

1235
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 4: Boys, how you doing buddy meetings?

1236
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: How have they gone? Thank you for getting us a

1237
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: little chair up grade?

1238
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: They're they're flat at least. Yeah, so that's you're headed

1239
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: in the right direction. On the way, Well, look at

1240
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: un on gimme cam.

1241
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: Hey, h know who keeps talking every time? My MIC's on? Today?

1242
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: Let's go run wild, Run amuck. By the way. Quick

1243
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: Trade Vikings trading guard Ezra Cleveland to the Jaguars. Sources

1244
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 3: tell Tom Pellisero and rap Sheet twenty twenty second round

1245
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: pick heads to Jacksonville, where he reunites with offensive line

1246
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: coach Phil Rauscher, who was with Cleveland in in a sad.

1247
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: Will we the Vikings?

1248
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: Really they got a lot going on?

1249
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: Will we have a a big deal today other than sweat?

1250
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 4: No?

1251
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: I mean it feels Williams yesterday yesterday? Would they get

1252
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: rid of them both?

1253
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. There are rumors that I would imagine

1254
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: are more unfounded than real. But there are rumors out

1255
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: there that the Browns are not only callings commanders about

1256
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 3: getting Jacoby, they're trying to put together a Jacoby Terry

1257
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: McLaurin combo. Why not put Chase Young in that too?

1258
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: Why don't you just give them I renewable Damon Jones

1259
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 4: and a few other guys on the back of the

1260
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: Caves bench from two thousand and seven.

1261
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: That was a great drop and I renewable. That was

1262
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: like that ridiculous hardened deal that NBA Twitter. So I

1263
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: get so annoyed by NBA Twitter. They act like it's

1264
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: the biggest deal ever, like it literally changes nothing, like nothing.

1265
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 2: But I was looking at the names on the roster,

1266
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: like how many times is Bob Covington and Nick Patoom.

1267
01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: Like those guys are.

1268
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: Always like they've been in a thousand trades. Those guys

1269
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: Nick Patoom part of a package. Fantastic.

1270
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 3: When we had I renewables starting for US, I knew

1271
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: we were not a serious That's when it was.

1272
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: But like that, that was, that was NBA Twitter Like

1273
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 4: at the NBA trade deadline, Calv's gotta go walling. But

1274
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: they can get like one of the top five players

1275
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: in the league for I renewable Damon Jones or bag

1276
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: of basketballs and something else.

1277
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: It's not how this league works, man.

1278
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: No, no, let's let's just let's manage expectations here. We'll

1279
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 4: see what happens. One thought from Sunday's games. International Football

1280
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Speaker 4: League Texans thirteen Panthers first win of the year.

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01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: Bo Bishop Caroline's good at home. They're better at home.

1282
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: They almost got New Orleans at home. They got Houston.

1283
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: They did get Houston at home. They're more competitive at home.

1284
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: Good for them. I mean, you get it, you get

1285
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: a drive, late kick, a field goal. The kid who

1286
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: hit the field goal had to do it three times,

1287
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: is the way it ended up working it three times

1288
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: euro I think, yep, he had to get three times.

1289
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: And that he was hoisted like he had made a

1290
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:10,479
Speaker 3: twenty yard field goal. I want CJ. I want CJ.

1291
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: Stroud to get a weapon that was This was a

1292
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: game that I actually watched a little bit. I had

1293
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: to pick up and play CJ. Stroud in a couple

1294
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: of leagues. So while we were waiting for our kickoff

1295
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: and four, which is one of the benefits to me

1296
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: of the four o'clock kickoff when it's actually one o'clock

1297
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 3: and you're on the West coast, you get those ten

1298
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: o'clock games. Wake up football. There something, there's a way

1299
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: you win. There's a beauty to that. So I watched

1300
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: a lot of this. He just doesn't have anybody that's dynamic.

1301
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: You know. I don't understand. John Metche is somebody that

1302
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: was pretty highly thought of coming out of Alabama. It's

1303
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 3: their second round pick a year ago. I realized. Obviously

1304
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: he didn't play the first season with cancer. He's back now,

1305
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: but he's a he seems to be a non factor.

1306
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 3: They are and they've given up their assets, right so

1307
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: they can't get They're not gonna be able to get

1308
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: him a big time receiver unless they do it via

1309
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: free agency. Yep, and I think that I think that's

1310
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: that's what's missing from from that team.

1311
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 4: Up next, how about them Cowboys three Rams, twenty cigirl one.

1312
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: Thought dominant beating. Their defense is relentless. Dak looked great

1313
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: and I love Ceedee Lamb getting involved. Fourteen targets, twelve catches,

1314
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty eight yards, two touchdowns.

1315
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 4: It's amazing what happens when they actually get him.

1316
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: Involved right, looks like and that's why don't they. I

1317
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: feel like he's got to be at least ten to

1318
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: twelve targets every single game. Treat him like just Jefferson.

1319
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: I think Ceedee Lamb is immensely talented.

1320
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: Bishop uh kind of a cash itIt push your chips

1321
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: in Rams performance like got down early and Stafford got danged,

1322
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: and then they were just kind of like, all right,

1323
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: well we'll play next week. There's really disheartening performance out

1324
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: of them. I don't know what week to week, what

1325
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna get with that.

1326
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 4: The first few, first four weeks they look like, Okay,

1327
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 4: they're going to be a handful every week. I don't

1328
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 4: know how good they are, but they're gonna be a

1329
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 4: handso good target.

1330
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: I mean the Kyraen Williams. Thing hurts them big, like

1331
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: when he went down, like it's a big jump drop

1332
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: from him to you know, yeah, but yeah.

1333
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 4: Up next from the NFC Norris Division, the Vikings twenty

1334
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 4: four the Gutlass Packers ten Bishop.

1335
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: We've talked about Cousins a lot, so I'll do the

1336
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: Packers side of this. They're just bad. They're really bad.

1337
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: Jordan Love's really bad. It's amazing to me that they

1338
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: had him in the building and thought that he would

1339
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: be more than what he is. And I understand there

1340
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: were some drops in the game from the receivers, but

1341
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: like eight, yeah, something like that, the several I think

1342
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: it was six, but yeah, either way, regardless, they're just

1343
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: not a very good football team at all. And when

1344
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: we saw this one, I just thought, I don't understand

1345
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: how this is a pick him. It makes no sense

1346
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: and it didn't and it does them.

1347
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: Zi Girl agreed.

1348
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 3: What's weird about the Jordan Love situation is Kurt Warner

1349
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: or Lobsky have gone out of their way to say

1350
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: he's actually playing really well, and they don't. They have

1351
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 3: no agenda to do, so it's.

1352
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: A steady diet of like this is the stat line

1353
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: twenty four of forty two for one hundred and eighty six,

1354
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: a touchdown in an interception and then he runs for

1355
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: a touchdown.

1356
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

1357
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: Almost every week, it's that type of a stat line.

1358
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: I don't understand how Aaron, John and Dylan have completely disappeared,

1359
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: for sure from their offense. I don't know what it is.

1360
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: They are not good and they're not a fun football

1361
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 3: team to watch at all.

1362
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: No speaking of not a great game to watch. New

1363
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 4: Orleans thirty eight Colts twenty seven Colts. Now I've lost

1364
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 4: three in a rows. The girl one thought.

1365
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: From you, good answer from the Saints, who kind of

1366
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: got the best of Derek Carr. Hit some balls down

1367
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: the field, you know, and he's capable of that. He's

1368
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: capable of popping off for three ten and two touchdowns.

1369
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: Taysom Hill, they're getting in him involved as a runner.

1370
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: He had nine for sixty three and two touchdowns. I

1371
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 3: thought it was a pretty good performance. Chris Lave I

1372
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: don't know if he needs a change the scenery. He's

1373
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: not going to get one. But they don't get him

1374
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: the ball. And then the Colts had it going running

1375
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: the ball. They ran it twenty four times for one

1376
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty four yards. Taylor averaged seven point nine,

1377
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: Moss averaged six. Yeah, and then they just kept throwing.

1378
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: He's wild, Like, I mean, you really could just give

1379
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: those guys over and over again. Taylor ed, I want

1380
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 2: to say, in the first half he had like sixty yards,

1381
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: end up with ninety some. Yeah, he was getting whatever

1382
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: he wanted.

1383
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: I thought, he's gonna run for about a buck fifty,

1384
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: same me too. Yeah.

1385
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 4: Up next from the AFC East Dolphins, thirty one Patriots

1386
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 4: come back to Earth seventeen, Miami six and two. On

1387
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: the ear, Patriots now two and six.

1388
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: Bishop one thought, I understand that the criticism of Miami

1389
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: is they haven't beaten any good buddy good, but they

1390
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: bury people who are bad.

1391
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: Yes, and I like that.

1392
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 2: I like burying bad teams. And they looked gorgeous in

1393
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: those throwbacks. Just pristine Ramsey in that thing. Good lord,

1394
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: wear those all the time. They're beautiful.

1395
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome mac Ramsey. He got a pick. Waddle was

1396
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 3: getting the little ball Tyreek Hill. Mostart. My big takeaway

1397
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: was Mostart's touchdown celebration of the racewalking Elite. I fancy

1398
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: myself as a good comedic racewalker. And I loved seeing

1399
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 3: that celebration. I thought that was that was awesome.

1400
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: I think one interesting thing to watch here with Miami

1401
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 4: is we continue to go through this season is how

1402
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 4: well they play away from home. They're there, They're really

1403
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 4: really good at home. Yeah, on the road, they they

1404
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: look like a little bit of a different team.

1405
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 3: They've lost to Buffalo and Philly, so take that for

1406
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: what it is to say. But they haven't looked great

1407
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 3: in their o It's valid. Yeah, in ill climate, you wonder, Yeah.

1408
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 4: Up next. Then again, if they just keep winning, everybody

1409
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 4: will come to them. South Beach in January, South Beautiful,

1410
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 4: it does the Battle of New York. They should have

1411
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 4: just made this a tie and no one should have

1412
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 4: gotten a win, but the Jets somehow escaped with one

1413
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 4: thirteen to ten in overtime. Jets now four and three

1414
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 4: on the season.

1415
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: Is a girl one thought, good team, very good defense.

1416
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 3: This was the Giants. Is an impossible loss. If you're

1417
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 3: the Giants, it's impossible to lose this. But it's also

1418
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: would have been an impossible win to win.

1419
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: It's that you have the ball, it's under a middle.

1420
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 3: I get all of that. But I'm saying, if I

1421
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: tell you they had.

1422
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: A field goal that they miss, like if he just

1423
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: runs it, like just picks up the it's fourth and one.

1424
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: I want to say, I was watching it. It was

1425
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: second screen. It's a fourth and one, Graham good. And

1426
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 2: they missed the field goal, and so it's ten to

1427
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 2: seven and Wilson goes twenty four seconds like, boom boom,

1428
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: red goal, tie, Like what are we doing?

1429
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: But they should have won a game in which they

1430
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: had zero first downs via the pass, in which they

1431
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 3: had negative nine net yards passing, a game in which

1432
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: they went two for nineteen on third down and averaged

1433
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 3: two point eight yards per play. They were support that.

1434
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: How do they how could they possibly have won that?

1435
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: They averaged they averaged negative a half yard per pass attempt.

1436
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 3: That is like this, it's I don't even came in,

1437
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: But how could you even be in the position to

1438
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: win a game like that? It's bad ball, That's what

1439
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Show that's bad ball. That's bad ball. Patriots

1440
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: play bad ball. The New York teams play bad ball.

1441
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh. The Jacksonville Jaguars, meanwhile, have now won five

1442
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 4: in a row. That's right, five they're six and two.

1443
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: They go into Puker Land, take renegade and tell them

1444
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: to stick it.

1445
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: Oh, they've stolen their towels, squealers, they're all upset about it. Yeah,

1446
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: wind guard right the linebacker safety Bishop one thought.

1447
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: I thought this was a very impressive win from Jacksonville

1448
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of they weren't great lords through red

1449
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: zone interception one inside the five, that's just impossible to throw.

1450
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: They win by two scores. They are a very good team.

1451
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: They are someone to be concerned with and reckoned within

1452
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: the AFC. And I think that there's another Unlike some

1453
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: of the AFC teams, I think there's another gear for them.

1454
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: Even I think they can they have a way to

1455
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: even get better. That's the type of game Pittsburgh wins.

1456
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Pittsburgh is thirtieth in the NFL in

1457
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: offense and thirtieth in the NFL in defense.

1458
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: They can't stop the pass at all.

1459
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: So they are the idea that that team's four and three.

1460
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: Crazy. By the way, this was a twenty to ten game.

1461
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: The Steelers just have some kind of magic that keeps

1462
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: them in these games. So this is how the game,

1463
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 3: This is how the game went three and out for

1464
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 3: the Steelers, field goal for the Jags, three and out

1465
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 3: for the Steelers, field goal for the Jags, three and

1466
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: out for the Steelers. Jags get it down to the

1467
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh eighteen, fumble, three and out for the Steelers, so

1468
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 3: that's four straight. They go down and he throws the

1469
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: pick that you're talking outside the five, So it could

1470
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 3: have been twenty to nothing at this point before the

1471
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: Steelers had picked up a first sound Seelers get a

1472
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: field goal. Jags answer with a field goal. Steelers miss

1473
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: a field goal at the end of the half. Third quarter,

1474
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: opening possession for the Jags. They get it down inside

1475
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh thirty. They fumble again, Pink Bigsby fumbles out

1476
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 3: of nowhere. Then they hold them to a three and out.

1477
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 3: They held them to a five playing out, they give

1478
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 3: a touchdown, they give up a touchdown. I mean, they

1479
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: should have won this game by a bazillion and did not,

1480
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 3: So it was It's wild. The Jags are good, but

1481
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 3: that would sloppy, sloppy play. That could have been a beating.

1482
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, should have been canny. Pickett, by the way, about

1483
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 4: twenty minutes ago with the media and said I'm playing,

1484
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: so so there's that He'll play on.

1485
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: Third jump ball to George Pickens, and Pickens will catch

1486
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: off six people's heads and they'll beat Tennessee.

1487
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 3: That's how that goes.

1488
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly how I go Speaking of the Tennessee Titans,

1489
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: Titans twenty eight Gutlass Falcons twenty three. Falcons fall to

1490
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 4: four and four Tennessee three and four in the National

1491
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: Football League's a girl.

1492
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 3: One thought, Will Levis, where have you been? Why weren't

1493
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: you playing before? We've been saying this for years. It's

1494
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 3: time to move on from Tannehill. I thought that he

1495
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 3: played well, and I can't say I'm sad to see

1496
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: smug Arthur Smith taking l right here. Oh, by the way,

1497
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: did you notice that they looked a little bit better

1498
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: throwing the ball with heinike out there right? Maybe we

1499
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 3: should have done this from the get go. It's like the.

1500
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: Battle of the stubborn coaches. Tannehill and then Arthur Smith

1501
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: with Ritter like just it's okay to just beat.

1502
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 4: Move on, Just move on.

1503
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: Also, shout out Gibbe, I'm gonna put you on the

1504
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: spot here. Shout out to a former Brown who led

1505
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: the Falcons in receiving in this game, three catches for

1506
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 3: seventy five yards, and he guesses Gibbeck a former Brown,

1507
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 3: former Brown?

1508
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 4: Uh special teams guy? Yes, yes, uh yes?

1509
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 3: Who know where you go? Caderol Hodge?

1510
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: Oh no?

1511
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 3: Taking over taking the mic, dropping the factual hammer. What

1512
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: a moment, What a moment we'll never forget. Who had

1513
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: you had seen that? Or you just knew that it

1514
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: had to be Cadero Hodge. I saw it when I

1515
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: looked at the box. Foks Hodge. Still it's still win.

1516
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: Who know? Good job? You don't have to tell him

1517
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:38,919
Speaker 3: how the sausages.

1518
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 4: The fact that I knew it was a special team

1519
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 4: or former Brown, I'll.

1520
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 3: Go with it. Were you gonna get ca Darl Hodge?

1521
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 4: I didn't have the name off on my own. Okay,

1522
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like special teams guys. Started week one

1523
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 4: of the Freddy Kitchens era.

1524
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.

1525
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 4: Wide receiver. I'm next to the NFC East. The Eagles

1526
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: probably happy they don't have to see the comedies anytime soon.

1527
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 4: Three straight high scoring affairs between these two teams. Eagles

1528
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 4: come out on top thirty eight to thirty one. They're

1529
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 4: seven and one. Washington clearly in fire sale mode today

1530
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 4: now three and five.

1531
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Philly is Philly's the best team in football.

1532
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 3: But they haven't.

1533
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: We haven't even seen their best yet. But they're I'll

1534
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: say this, I don't know if they're the that they

1535
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: have the highest ceiling. They have the lowest floor in

1536
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. If that makes sense. They they are always

1537
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: going to be in it. They will beat ninety percent

1538
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: of the teams they play because of their talent.

1539
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: So girl, Sam Howell's up and down good Sam. Bad

1540
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: Sam is reminiscent of some other quarterbacks in this league,

1541
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: to be sure, but he can sling it at times.

1542
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: They finally got dots and going. Remember Alisa where they

1543
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: get him going? He had eight for one O eight,

1544
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 3: Jamison Crowder seven for ninety five in a touchdown, McLaurin

1545
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: five for sixty three in a touchdown. This was a

1546
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: bit of a shootout. I think the big takeaway though

1547
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: right now is it's hard to argue right now against

1548
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill or even you know, when he's healthy, Justin Jefferson,

1549
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: but AJ Brown might be the best receiver in the NFL.

1550
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 3: Did you stop the most consistently productive every.

1551
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 4: Four weeks or something. Peter King had it yesterday. Is

1552
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 4: he has a better stretch than Jerry Rice.

1553
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got he goes one thirty one, one seventy

1554
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 3: five and two, one twenty seven, one thirty one, one

1555
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: thirty seven and one, one thirty and two. He's got

1556
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 3: one twenty five plus in six straight games, which I

1557
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 3: think is I don't think that's been done before. Yeah,

1558
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 3: he's outrageous. Do you know what is? So they've played

1559
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 3: the Eagles are seven and one eight games, he already

1560
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: has sixty for nine thirty nine and five.

1561
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 4: Would you rather have him or Tyreek Hill?

1562
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: Right now? I had A J. Brown. I just think

1563
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 3: he does every He he is everything Tyreek is. I

1564
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: mean they're both great, but I think A J. Brown

1565
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: is the best reliever in football. Bishop I don't know

1566
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 3: that like the Tyreek Hill is. He's just a damage.

1567
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: It kind of depends who My compliments may depends who

1568
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: my quarterback is, Like what what I want to go

1569
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: about my business?

1570
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 3: I think A do anything you want to throw down

1571
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: the field to him. He's getting moss people you want

1572
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 3: to throw them. They were like, the can do everything, Tyreek.

1573
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: You can use him like on the Jets you could

1574
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 3: use him on all of it.

1575
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous that that that they're both playing it just

1576
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: to he's already got a thousand yards Tyrek does.

1577
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 3: AJ's got to be right there too, AJ's nine thirty nine. Yeah,

1578
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: like they've those two are just ridiculous. Yeah, Tyreek, Tyreek's

1579
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: got one thy fourteen Tyreek Season two fifteen and two

1580
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: forty and one, one fifty seven and one fifty eight.

1581
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: That was the only really down game. One eighty one

1582
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: and one, one sixty three and one eighty eight and

1583
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 3: one one twelve and one. Would that be fun?

1584
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 2: Imagine like every time every Sunday you went to the

1585
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: Ballyard and you got to watch all that.

1586
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes, me and s have AJ Brown

1587
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: in uh in fantasy. That's been a real treat. Oh

1588
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: there you go.

1589
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 4: Uh up next, rat Birds thirty one, Cardinals twenty four.

1590
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,879
Speaker 3: It was a gross back door cover, not even remotely

1591
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 3: close to this, was not even close to this.

1592
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: So this score was so it was twenty one, it

1593
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: was uh, it was thirty one fourteen, let's see, or

1594
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: thirty one fifteen. It might have been thirty one to fifteen,

1595
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: thirty one to fifteen Arizona scores with like two minutes.

1596
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 3: Two minutes and fifty one seconds, two to fifty one.

1597
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: It's thirty one to fifteen, right, the numbers eight and

1598
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: a half. Arizona scores to make it thirty one to twenty.

1599
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: They go for the two point conversion. They don't get it.

1600
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: They then kick the on side kick. The Ravens don't

1601
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: even really try to recover it, like it's a it's

1602
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: a really nice on side kick, but there's really only

1603
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: one Raven to get it. It's kind of like what

1604
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 2: happened us against the Jets, Yeah, except they still won.

1605
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: We didn't, but like it's like, can someone please catch

1606
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: the football? Anybody?

1607
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: Right?

1608
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 3: So then they do.

1609
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: Then they go down and you're thinking to yourself, well,

1610
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: what do you do here? Thirty one to twenty eight

1611
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: and a half? Right, that's what continue to be where

1612
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: we pay attention to. And they go and kick the

1613
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: field goal because you got to get points as soon

1614
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: as possible. But they don't even do that, right. They

1615
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: let twenty seconds run off the clock before kick on

1616
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: the field goal because they couldn't decide what play to run.

1617
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: It was a disaster and somehow they cover it was

1618
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: gross Baltimore is really good too.

1619
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 4: Uh, Broncos somehow go into Kansas City and win twenty

1620
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 4: four to nine. The final score actually was in Denver.

1621
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 4: I take that back.

1622
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, Mahomes had that later in the air.

1623
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 3: Wasn't Mahomes was sick for the game.

1624
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: He looked it and Kansas City kind of just pushed in,

1625
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: like it started going not their way and they just

1626
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: pushed in. Good for Sean Payton though, for keeping the

1627
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: buy in in Denver. They're still bought in.

1628
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 3: They are. Russell Wilson now in his last five games,

1629
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 3: not too shabby. Ten touchdowns, two picks in the last

1630
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 3: five games. Now he's not thrown for a lot of yards.

1631
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: By the way, how about this one, Javonte Williams finally

1632
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: getting the ball a little bit, get his first touchdown

1633
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 3: of the year. Would love to see that, and I

1634
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: think the Chiefs just just folded it up. An El

1635
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 3: Foldo said, we're fine, We're gonna make playoffs.

1636
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: L Foldo, forty nine ers just agree to a deal

1637
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: for Chase Young.

1638
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: What according to Jay Glazer.

1639
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 4: In your quarter making eight hundred thousand dollars, that's what

1640
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 4: you can do.

1641
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: But let me tell you'll have Bosa and Chase Young.

1642
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 3: That's good. They needed somebody, they needed that other they

1643
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: tried with Randy Gregory. That's gonna be that's incredible, which.

1644
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: Gets us to Bengals thirty one forty nine seventeen.

1645
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 3: So you can't play the Steve Wilkes. According to my

1646
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: dad Nert Nert, you can't play that solid defense. We're

1647
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 3: getting no pass rush. Well you're gonna get, yes, my

1648
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 3: dad is going to be quite pleased with that. Rapoport's

1649
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: saying likely a mid round pick in twenty four is

1650
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 3: all it took. You got to pay him, of course,

1651
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: I would assume. So that's the that's part of it.

1652
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 3: The other thing in this one, obviously Cincinnati very good.

1653
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 3: Burrow nineteen straight at one point, finished twenty eight to

1654
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 3: thirty twos back he's back, Yeah, he's so much so

1655
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase after his touchdown in the in the end

1656
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: zone to a backflip. So they are sewing their roads

1657
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. Well, everybody, it's up for t Higgins they

1658
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: ever is he He.

1659
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: Had eighty five He was six for eighty five, I

1660
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: think yet.

1661
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 3: Five for sixty nine. It's not bad. That's his best

1662
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: of the season. Yeah, it's been for Baltimore, y at

1663
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 3: eight for eighty nine and two zero eight for e nine,

1664
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 3: two two for twenty one, two for nineteen, two for

1665
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: twenty five for sixty nine.

1666
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: Banged up for a lot of that, and yeah, yeah,

1667
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: but they're they're cruising that that they're gonna be cruising now.

1668
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a team you're gonna have to deal with.

1669
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: All right, there's things starting to heat up on the

1670
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 2: NFL trade deadline side of things. We'll keep you updated

1671
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: on that. Coming up next to us to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: Heisman finalists Chase Young and current or former Washington Commis

1681
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Speaker 2: traded to the forty nine ers for now is reported

1682
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 2: to be a third, so the Niners will have Bosa.

1683
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: And Young and Javon Hargrave and Eric Armstead.

1684
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: Imagine that's a very good line telling like you're in

1685
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen that within the next five years, Nick Bosa

1686
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: and Chase Younger and be on the same team.

1687
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: It's wild. That's pretty well. That is a loaded line.

1688
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 3: I'll say it again. Bosa and Chase young at the edges,

1689
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 3: Hardgrave and Armstead in the middle. That's crazy. They're going

1690
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 3: to be ferocious. They are a week too late, by

1691
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 3: the way. Could have done it against the would have

1692
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: been nice against the Bengal brow. Yeah, could have helped

1693
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Speaker 3: us out pedro Yes.

1694
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Speaker 4: you boy, first up the Browns after their loss. He

1698
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 4: dropped some four spots to number thirteen. The two teams

1699
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 4: in front, the forty nine Ers at number eleven, the

1700
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 4: Jets at number twelve, behind the Chargers at fourteen, the

1701
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 4: Saints at fifteen. Zigura high or lower? Just right for

1702
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: your Cleveland Browns. I mean.

1703
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 3: You said the Jets are at twelve, Yes, then we

1704
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 3: are better than the Jets. I don't care under any iteration.

1705
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 3: They almost lost a game, In fact, should have lost

1706
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 3: a game to a team that didn't throw for a yard.

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01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: We did lose to a team that had negative yards

1708
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:46,879
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter.

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 3: Which had happened in thousands of games. Fair one. I think,

1710
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: what do we do with the Chargers here? How do

1711
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: you make sense? I think they beat the Jets too.

1712
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'd be favored over both US and

1713
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 2: the Jets, right if us today us with no as

1714
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 2: we stand, Yeah, as is currently constructed with PJ. Walker

1715
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: at quarterback. I think that's I think we would be

1716
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: so next.

1717
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: Higher, core lower.

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01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 4: Number one for the Philadelphia Eagles. Number two on this

1719
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 4: list is where I'm going to start, just because I'm

1720
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 4: changing it around.

1721
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1722
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 4: The Baltimore Ravens are number two on Pete Prisco's list.

1723
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 4: He has the Jags three, and the Cowboys for FYI

1724
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 4: Bishop higher lower, just right for the Rettbirds.

1725
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Do I think the Baltimore Ravens are the second best

1726
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: team in football?

1727
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 3: No?

1728
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: I do not, But I do like that he at

1729
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: least is not taking a pull mentality and he's saying,

1730
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: what are they right now?

1731
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 3: Right?

1732
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 2: Now they're pretty good, so I don't have a huge

1733
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: beef with it. Minute the teams that also you could

1734
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,520
Speaker 2: put in here would be Detroit Jacksonville.

1735
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: They smoked Detroit they did.

1736
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he Detroit Jacksonville. Who else Miami? See Kansas

1737
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: City just yeah, like at Denver, So I can't have Kansas.

1738
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: I guess I don't have too much.

1739
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 3: Of a problem about it. I think it's probably fair.

1740
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 3: I mean, could you put the Dolphins there? Yeah, maybe,

1741
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's a fair spot. They've

1742
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: in the last two weeks. They obviously handled Arizona like

1743
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: they should have, and then they smoked the Lions like

1744
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 3: that was as much of a beating of a team

1745
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: as you could have. And so I think I'm fine

1746
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 3: with the Ravens being there. It's gonna be and coming

1747
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 3: upon the Browns to go and handle their business and

1748
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: let themselves climb up the old Powerpool rankings next higher

1749
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: or lower.

1750
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 4: I mentioned the Jags are three, of the Cowboys are four,

1751
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 4: Miami is number five, Zigura higher lower just right by

1752
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 4: the way, the Chiefs are six, the Bills are seven.

1753
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: I like the Jags. I think the Dolphins right now

1754
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 3: are still better than the Jags same. I would move

1755
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 3: Miami up. I'd have Miami third. I had Miami third.

1756
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 3: Two next higher or lower? All right?

1757
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 4: As I mentioned, the Chiefs are six, the Bill seven,

1758
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 4: the Bengals are number eight. Zigura higher, lower or.

1759
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: Just right for the Bengals, I think nine Lions, ten Seahawks,

1760
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:18,839
Speaker 3: eleven Niners.

1761
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: He didn't like the Lions, but Leo as much at all,

1762
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: he's got.

1763
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 3: To and I have a I have am Meyer than

1764
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: that as well.

1765
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 3: I think that's probably fair for the Bengals. I think

1767
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 3: they're going to get a chance, you know, against Buffalo

1768
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: on Sunday night, to say definitively we're back, and then

1769
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'd have no problem putting them

1770
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: at like number two.

1771
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: If they go out and if they handle business at

1772
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: home against Buffalo.

1773
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: In a convince good looking, convincing fashion, I would I'd

1774
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: put them in number two. Yeah.

1775
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the Lions too low the Bengals. It's

1776
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: a situation where you saw it. They looked they were

1777
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 2: really good against against the Sam Frusco forty nine ers,

1778
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: but you need to I want to see it backed

1779
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: up one. I mean, I don't want to because they're

1780
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: in our division, but just in general, if you're judging them,

1781
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: you want to see him do it one more time.

1782
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Sweet from Stuart Mandel. By the way,

1783
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 3: the Athletic missed it by two days, and it's Joe

1784
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: Burrow in the spring game being tackled by Chase Young

1785
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 3: at highest state. Yeah, would have been.

1786
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 4: I didn't miss it.

1787
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 3: I wish you didn't miss it. Next higher lower.

1788
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 4: All right, I'm going all the way to the bottom.

1789
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1790
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 4: The Squealers are number sixteen, but whatever, who cares, uh,

1791
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 4: they're probably probably properly marked there.

1792
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 3: They're going to go nine to eight with this operation.

1793
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin never had a losing record, probably going to

1794
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 4: be the case again. He's got the Panthers at thirty two.

1795
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 4: I'm not sure the Panthers are the worst team in

1796
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 4: the NFL. He's the He's got the Packers at twenty nine,

1797
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 4: the Giants at thirty and the Arizona Cardinals at thirty

1798
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 4: one in front of.

1799
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:01,440
Speaker 2: Them as they stand right now. Joe Pesci from Goodfellas

1800
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: is starting for the Giants there.

1801
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: Well, Danny got cleared. I think he will be back

1802
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 3: this week.

1803
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 2: So if he's back then, Okay, if you're talking for

1804
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: a one week game, for like, if this is the

1805
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: ranking for this particular week and Clayton Tune is starting

1806
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 2: for the Cardinals, they're the worst team in the NFL. Fine,

1807
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 2: it's been a lot they got they got a lot

1808
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: of currency off of being plucky in Week one. They've

1809
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: been brutal for a month and beating the Cowboys that

1810
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: was like, that was it?

1811
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then beatings Yes, I mean they're they're I

1812
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: watched that whole Seahawks game and prep for the Seahawks.

1813
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 3: They were abysmal.

1814
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that's higher and lower for.

1815
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 3: Water or worse. These chairs be tour tour than those.

1816
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: It's a chair graveyard. It's like when you fly over

1817
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 3: Tucson and they've got the mothball fleet there. It's like,

1818
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 3: you got these mothball players, so much more to come.

1819
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,880
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01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 2: costume as a kid was.

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01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Maverick nice jump sure, yeah full. I had full, a

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 3: full flight suit, the real deal. It was legit boots.

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01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 2: He had that last year, I think, and that was

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01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 2: a very good job out of him. How about you

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01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 2: give a favorite Halloween. I don't.

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01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 4: I don't have one that stands out. I don't have

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01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 4: one that I was. The one I can remember is

1834
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: I went to a costume mandatory party in college. Yeah,

1835
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 4: did not have a costume. Yep, cut open bag of

1836
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 4: kitty litter, emptied it, put the bag on me, cut

1837
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 4: a hole in it, and I went as blank kitty.

1838
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 3: Nice. Of course you did.

1839
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 2: I always was as Yeah. I always wanted one of

1840
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: the bought costumes, but of course we couldn't have that.

1841
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 3: We was it to make them.

1842
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 2: So it was basically a rotation between Dracula and Zoro

1843
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 2: like those. I had one black cape. It was just

1844
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: rotated those things going forward. So uh, enjoy your Halloween.

1845
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 2: Be safe out there.

1846
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 4: If you're driving around tonight, remember like they're not looking

1847
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 4: for you they're.

1848
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: Chasing candy that's free.

1849
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: Yeah that.

1850
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: All they have to do is say a word two

1851
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 3: hour window kids. Yeah, let them live out there. Riese's

1852
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 3: butterfinger Snickers, those are the elites to me.

1853
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 4: I rate.

1854
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 3: I go for the bite sized snickers. Those go in

1855
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 3: the freezer. Oh yeah, those go right in there. And

1856
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 3: then Big Race's pieces, guy pieces pieces. I really like

1857
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: the pieces. That's where it's at its same, coming to

1858
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 3: those guys who will stop by my ass and I'll

1859
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 3: get some recent get some recent piece. Yeah, we were

1860
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 3: handling those.

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01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: We did that too, handed out on Sunday. Happy Halloween, everybody,

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow. Cleveland Browns Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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