1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: even hot? 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: What's up y'all? It's Lauren l Rosa. This is the 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Latest with Lauren L Rosa. This show, as you know, 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: is your daily dig into all things pop culture and 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: the conversations that are really shaking the room. 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: Now. I'm your home gird. 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: It knows a bit about everything and everybody. So today 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: joining me and Patrick'll say hey to Patrick was good, y'all, 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Brandon is here, Brandon, I don't know what you want 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: to get the people your Instagram. 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Or like what you want to go by. 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm Brandon. Instagram is d dot d dot Underscore twenty seven. 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 4: I'm not copying anybody's name. That's what they called me 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 4: since college. Yeah, and I was just highly surprised. Laurena 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: asked me to come on here with her today because 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 4: I was being very opinionated at work and just you know, 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: talk about topics. 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: She's like, hey, come on the show. 22 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: So I said, why not where you work at orcat 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: power one on one with the Breakfast Club. 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm a producer on the show. 25 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I swhear me and Lauren get our our argument. 26 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 4: Argument usually just give me a real dirty look. I 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 4: have to take back what I said. 28 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: So today what we do. You know, We're going to 29 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: get into a couple of things. 30 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I think you guys would love hearing from Brandon and 31 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: got to do a check in behind the scenes of 32 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: the grind. This is where we check in and we 33 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: just see, you know, how people are feeling. But the 34 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: rules with our check in are that you have to 35 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: use one word and you. 36 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: Can describe why you said that one word, but you got. 37 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: To do it one word first, and you gotta be 38 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: real about it, Like if you're not feeling it today, 39 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: you can be like I'm down. 40 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: So we start off Patrick, how are you feeling today? 41 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: I'm feeling great. We just came back from Dell State 42 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: last night late, but we still got to it. 43 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, I graduated from Delaware State University. 44 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Love my HBCU, so I go back often, like you know, 45 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: whenever they ask me to. If I can accommodate, I 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: try to because I know how important it is for 47 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: the students to see somebody that's like really out here 48 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: doing things that's not like eighty years old. 49 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Up close and personal. So I went. 50 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: They were honoring a lot of the student athletes. They 51 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: have a lot going on with the athletic program. That 52 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Sean Jackson is there now. He was there as well 53 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: last night. If you want to see some of that. 54 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: We did do videos, so make sure you're following me 55 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Laura the Rosa YouTube where you guys 56 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: are watching this, you know, check out. It'll be on 57 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: YouTube as well too, and photos. We'll have photos posted. 58 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: So that was that was dope to be able to take, 59 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, Patrick to my HBCU. 60 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: But Brandon, yes, how you feeling today? 61 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: Feeling activated? 62 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: I know that's right. 63 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm feeling activated. You know I made, you know, a. 64 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: Little hundred dollars on the stock market, so. 65 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: Listen. 66 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm not a financial advisor at all. I've been taking 67 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: big losses. 68 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: That's why. That's why today is a little different. 69 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: But it's like you're excited today. 70 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: Hi. 71 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: But I'm glad you're feeling activated. I'm glad you're stick 72 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: it to your goal. It's summertime. You trying to have 73 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: the guns out. 74 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Okay, No, I. 75 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: Feel good as well too. 76 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: I think because the weather is warm, I'm feeling energized, 77 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: which is ironic because we were out last night at 78 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Dell State. 79 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: But yes, the weather is nice outside. 80 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: My niece is here and she's gonna be at American Dreams, 81 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ride go by and see her. 82 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm just up. So yes, now let's get on into 83 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: the latest. 84 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I would say we're taking y'aut of court, but again 85 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: this hasn't even made it the court yet. But you 86 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: know your girl love to take y'aull of court. Lot 87 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: to take y'all a court. Shannon Sharp just posted a 88 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: statement to his Instagram. The statement that he posted is 89 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: actually have a screenshot of a text that he sent 90 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: to someone, so it says my statement is found here 91 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: and this is the truth. The relationship in question was 92 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: one hundred percent consensual. At this juncture, I am electing 93 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: to step aside temporarily from my duties at ESPN. I 94 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: would be devoting this time to my family and responding 95 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: to and dealing with these false and disruptive allegations set 96 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: against me. I plan to return to ESPN at the 97 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: start of the NFL preseason. I sincerely appreciate the overwhelming 98 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: and ongoing support I've received from my family, fans, friends 99 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: and colleagues. 100 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: Shannon Sharp. When is NFL preseason Brandon usually. 101 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: In the summertime, in the summer, so like around August. 102 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: So he's supposed to be over fairly quick. 103 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could almost have predicted that this 104 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: is what was going to happen. Yeah, which is why 105 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I had been reaching out trying to, you know, figure 106 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: out previously, like was ESPN going to make the call 107 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: or was he and not because I want to see 108 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: anybody out of a job, I think. I think in 109 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: a matter like this, it is very unfortunate that you 110 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: can't wait until something has actually been proven or disproven, 111 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: like guilty not guilty, Like he can't keep his job 112 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: until then. But it's just how it works with brands, 113 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: especially a brand like an ESPN Disney, because those brands 114 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: don't want, like Disney like esp the big money. 115 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: They want to stay out of the muddy waters. 116 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: And even though Shannon Sharp has not been proven guilty 117 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: of anything that has been alleged against him, it's still 118 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation around the brand every single time 119 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: he gets on television on that show. Yeah, Like people 120 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: are like, well, why is why is he still there? 121 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: Last night, literally I was reading a reddit, like a 122 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: long conversation on Reddit, and then I saw, you know, 123 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: some conversation online on Twitter, and sad to say, the 124 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: court of public opinion matters to these brands, like they 125 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: care about what their image is, guilty or not guilty 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: if you're the person in question. And when I started 127 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: to see these things, that's what made me reach out 128 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: and say, hey, look, you know, because people are online 129 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: talking about this, I'm starting to see more stories. Because 130 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: there was a story that came out I believe it 131 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: was a Yahoo. They did this story early Tuesday morning, 132 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: the twenty third, that Shannon Sharp was not let go 133 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: from ESPN right now. Since then, there has been more 134 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: audio that has come out, There's been text messages, there's 135 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation. The photo of the woman 136 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: the accuser in question has come out. There's been a 137 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: lot of online discourse as well. Because all of those things, 138 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Shannon Shart posting a video, all that stuff, it makes 139 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: it bigger, makes people talk about it more, and so 140 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but it's not uncommon at all, and it 141 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: doesn't signal that he's guilty at all. 142 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: It could honestly be a couple of things. 143 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: What I predict that happened is ESPN needed to make 144 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: a decision for their brand, to protect their brand, to 145 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: protect their shows, and protect protect their other talent because 146 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: he's on first take with Steven Naseman, which is unfair. 147 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: It puts everybody in a very unfair position. So I 148 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: get it, and this is what happens. We were all 149 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: in here when he posted a statement that literally just happened. 150 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: What y'all think of the statement outside of it being 151 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: not a text from him but a text. 152 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 4: To him, I think the statement is fair. I actually 153 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: thought that was a good amount of time. You said 154 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: the summertime like NFL preseason times a little soon. I 155 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: thought that's enough time to really figure out, you know, 156 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: conclude everything that's going on, or and then him come 157 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: back like a fresh slate. Hopefully he learns from this situation. 158 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to get here yet. Yeah, 159 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: but he seemed very like green about all this, verry 160 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 4: naive about having all this recorded. If he is, if 161 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: this is just a situation of him doing like BDSM 162 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: and just that type of kink they have together. 163 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's the case, I think it's. 164 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: Very negligent on his behalf to just have so much 165 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: evidence that writing and audio of it there was trust there. 166 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what it is for me. 167 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, as this developed in the story 168 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: comes out, because even in us talking about it in 169 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: here today, I'm just trying to figure out where, like, 170 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: if there was trust there as it seems to have been, 171 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: where did that go wrong? If this is just a 172 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: case of him just you know, that's how they get off, right, I. 173 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: Mean, that's what makes it tricky, and to see like 174 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: there might be something way more to just the kink 175 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: or just text message. 176 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: It's something way more on some sides. 177 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: I just wanted you to tell me because you said 178 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: that in that article mentioned in twenty twenty three to 179 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: now what else does. 180 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: It say that they had consensual sexual activity with Jane 181 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: Doe about one hundred times in both Los Angeles and 182 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: Nevada from late twenty twenty two to January twenty twenty five. 183 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I knew when I read the headline, I'm like, this 184 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: has to be sourced somewhere close to or you know 185 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, something coming from Shannon Sharp's side, because 186 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: it's they're trying to you know, continue to push the 187 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: narrative of and just further expose the narrative of this 188 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: was a consensual relationship according to Shannon Shark, and in 189 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: this statement comes right after I literally reached out to 190 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: ESPN because reports at beginning there were more reports that 191 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: begin to happen about Shannon Sharp being let go from 192 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: ESPN and them, you know what I mean, saying hey, we're. 193 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: Good off you. 194 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: So I reached out to sources close to production over 195 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: there just to figure out what's going on, Like is 196 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: this true? Because I see the reports and then people 197 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: will report that it's not true, and then I see 198 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: it again and like, what's what's up? 199 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: I need to know for myself. 200 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: And what I was told was that, you know, Shannon 201 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: Sharp at the time before he just announced that he's 202 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: stepping away, was on the it was business as usual. 203 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: He's there Monday, Tuesday, he's not there. 204 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: The rest of the week, and if anything changed, you know, 205 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: we would know. We'll have to, you know, see what happens. 206 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: But it's a long it's be a long summer. 207 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: What do you what are your thoughts on people like 208 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 4: from the outside kind of showing that they've never been 209 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: on his side. 210 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Or like everybody kind of dog piling him now with like. 211 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: Maybe the Matt Barnes audio came out the shack don 212 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: rawlins Babe Mama, Like everybody's kind of like, you know. 213 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: Not flipping, but yeah, it's a crazy dog pole going on. 214 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: I think it comes to the territory. I'm not surprised 215 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: at all. 216 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I think more so it's like I think people kind 217 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: of think that it's funny, Like I'm seeing a lot 218 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: like there are a lot of people who are like, 219 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: he's weird as hell. 220 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: That girl is way too young. 221 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: But the jokes that people are making, I'm like, and 222 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: it's not jokes about what happened to the alleged victim. 223 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: It's more so jokes about Shannon Sharp just doing too 224 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: damn much democracy. 225 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: It's like him always like kind of coming at people 226 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: for messing with younger women and making fun of them. 227 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: And he's bessing with a nineteen year old. 228 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: At the time, early twenties took her off from I 229 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know, no nineteen when they 230 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: started though, but now she's in her early twenties. 231 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's that Cat Williams video. Let's throw that 232 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: on in here. 233 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: Just for you know, they don't want to get with 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: a white woman because I was scared she might have 235 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: me running down the street like Jonathan Chah. 236 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: Not because I didn't like white women. 237 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: I think white women are as great as any other women. 238 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonnac like. 239 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: I'm not scared of them. 240 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: I have a reason to be scared. You could be King. 241 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: The conqueror and they could take your rabbit ass down. 242 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: In two weekends. 243 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 5: And that's the truth of the matter. 244 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: So what happens, you know what I mean, especially when 245 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Cat Williams prediction your year. 246 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: All right, y'all, so moving on. 247 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: This is the reason why I got Brandon here, don't 248 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: say all me and now. So Michelle Obama has a podcast. 249 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: I've talked about her podcasts. On this podcast, I enjoyed 250 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: it so much. I'm learning so much about her. But 251 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: she's just really good at being vulnerable insurance parent, and 252 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: she has great guests. 253 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: She had Taraji p. 254 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Hinton on her podcast or podcast, Michelle Obama's podcast it's 255 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: called in My Opinion, So they sit down with your 256 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: talking about her career and the decisions that she's made. 257 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: And Taragi has been very vocal about the spiritual journey 258 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: that she went on. She talked about it when she 259 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: came to the Breakfast Club as well, where she's learned 260 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot about herself and saying no and protecting her 261 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: peace and you know, because she was in a really 262 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: dark place at one point, so she's had to be 263 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: more just protective of everything. And Michelle Obama starts having 264 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: a conversation with Taraji about you know, her saying no 265 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: and her protecting her piece and her being able to 266 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: speak out for herself and be vulnerable. This led into 267 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: this conversation. Now, I remember when Michelle Obama first made 268 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: the comments, some of the comments she's referencing. Let's go 269 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: to the other YouTube video of her where she's sitting 270 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: down a revolt with Anjie Martinez and Kelly Rowland and 271 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: Winnnie Harlowe and all of the girls. So this is 272 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: back in December of twenty twenty two. Let's take a listen. 273 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 5: But there were ten years why I couldn't stay my 274 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 5: husband and say that taking all years and guess when 275 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 5: it happened when those kids were little, right, yes, right? 276 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: Because you know you can be all great individually when 277 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 5: you when you're just married, you got your life, he's 278 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 5: got his. 279 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: You come together. It's like, oh, get. 280 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: To see ye take it easy and then you have kids, 281 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 5: suck taking taking anything you're traveling, that's great. Good, I 282 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: can hang out watch the TV. I want to watch her. 283 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 5: The minute we had kids, it was like where are 284 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: you going and how far? And you start measuring. It's 285 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 5: like how many diapers did you change? 286 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: And oh you're golfing? You have time? 287 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: Oh you go? 288 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: How you at the gym all the time? You were 289 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: right right, Well, I'm like. 290 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: That's that's when all the measuring starts, because you got 291 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 5: this project and guess what little kids they're terrorist. 292 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: Brandon was pissed off at those comments. 293 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: I'm not pissed off. It's a little fresh thrating. 294 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: Listen to right So I'm listening at this one with 295 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: Angie Martinez and Kelly and the rest of the gang. 296 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: So she was like, I hated my husband ten years 297 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: and if I heard right, Edge was. 298 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you do say that. That's my issue. 299 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: It's like, I feel like she says it a lot, 300 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 4: like she takes every opportunity to tell us how much 301 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: you hated the greatest black man, what of the greatest 302 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: black men? To ever live, and it's just like, dang, 303 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: what can we do? Like, I'm sorry if I don't 304 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: have time to change diators. I'm the leader of the 305 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 4: free world right now. I gotta figure out, you got it? 306 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: Do this Jones strike or no golfinnes is to take 307 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: off some of the pressure. 308 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: I'll go through it. 309 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: It's just tough. I don't I don't like, you know, 310 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: the constant you know, I feel like beating of Barack 311 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: Obama that I see on her behalf. 312 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: And it's because she talks about when things are not perfect. Yes, okay, 313 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: So I can't understand the sentimate because I have male 314 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: friends who also, you know, we have conversations about different things. 315 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: They deal with the women that they're dating, the women 316 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: that they're with, and a lot of times I get upset. 317 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I be like, does she know how much you're going 318 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: out of your way? And you this, you that, and 319 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know what I mean like, and I'm going 320 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: through all the things as a friend or as a 321 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: sister because it's like I hear you doing everything you 322 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: can do and it not being enough. 323 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: And I think that's where your sentiment comes from. 324 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: Right yeah, pretty much, It's like you worked you know, 325 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: to become the president of the United States as a 326 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: black man, is like, it still kind of feel like 327 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: you're not doing enough at. 328 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: Least in the household. 329 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: Like I don't know what's going on in their marriage 330 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: per se, but it was one part where she was 331 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: like everybody says, I'm bitter for trying to humanize him. 332 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, Yeah, why does he need to be humanized 333 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: if we have him maybe if we have him on 334 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: some type of maybe he's a symbol of hope for 335 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people, or we put him on a pedestal. 336 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: And it's like, cause, I'm like, there's kids who literally 337 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: like growing up, they didn't think like now, I probably 338 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: can't be president. 339 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm black. 340 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 4: Like it's a simple passion. But it's like, if we 341 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 4: hold him in that high regard, why do you have 342 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: to bring him down and humanize him to us? Like 343 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: we know he's not perfect, but I don't think there's 344 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: a need to constantly tell us how imperfect he is. 345 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: What I'm hearing in the second clip with Traji is 346 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: that what she learned to do was she needed to 347 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: create the space for her husband, and in doing that, 348 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: he's a human as well. 349 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: He has flaws. 350 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: He's not perfect, but he knows how to come back 351 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: and get it right. And she knew that there were 352 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: other women going through that, and I think if you, 353 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I think she probably felt like, if I can humanize him, 354 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: then maybe y'all take it a little bit easier on him, 355 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: because y'all see, he's not perfect. 356 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: He can't. 357 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: No one's perfect just because he is that man that 358 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: you look at that I'm a little black boy or 359 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Believen a little black girl. Now I think I can 360 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: be the president because of Barack Obama. Yes, and that's amazing, 361 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: but this means that has flaws. He's not the perfect dad, 362 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: he's not the perfect husband. He might not be the 363 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: perfect president, but he's always a trying dad, a trying president. 364 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I think that's where it was coming from. But also too, 365 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of women. Kelly Rowland 366 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: instantly was I girl, you in my head, it's a 367 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of people that probably could relate to that. 368 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: I've hated you for ten years. Does it sound like 369 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: what you just said? You're right, I completely understand what 370 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: you're saying, But I don't know. I just feel like, 371 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: on the flip side, anytime he speaks of Michelle's it's 372 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: just positive. He writes paragraphs of how she's the greatest 373 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: woman ever. I just wish she got some of the 374 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: grades with what you's going through. 375 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: So you don't think that she ever speaks positivity of him. 376 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: No, she does, she does, she does does. 377 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: She does take a lot of opportunities, also ejectively, because 378 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,479 Speaker 4: she feels like we need to see as heside. 379 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I think men just view that type of vulnerability and 380 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: conversation differently. And don't get me wrong, it's some women 381 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: that like I don't know if I would have came 382 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: out and said I hated my man for ten years. 383 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Only because hate somebody. 384 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: But to her point, she said, okay, they've been together 385 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: for thirty two years. Because she also said this in 386 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: the same clip, and I've heard her say multiple times 387 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: on our podcast. Right, if someone were to tell you, okay, 388 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you might not like this person. Out of thirty two years, 389 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: there might be ten of those years if you put 390 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: it all together, that you're not gonna like this person. Right, 391 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: But the other years you're in bliss, you're in peace, 392 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: You're you're so in love. You gotta take the good 393 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: with the bad. 394 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: I get it. 395 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: I get it, there is gonna be bad, but we 396 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: don't need to know about it all the time. 397 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Are you only saying that because he's the president or 398 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: you feel like women in general what happens at homes 399 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: just stay at home. 400 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: I think it's more so because he's the president at like, 401 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: he probably has. 402 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: One of the hardest jobs in the country. 403 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: As a man is dope When year girl feels like 404 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: you one of the dopest dudes out there, why can't I. 405 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: Feel like you? Dope? 406 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: But like, you really get on my nerves sometimes, Like 407 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: I really dislike you some days, but I dislike you, 408 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: but I learned how to love you through the dislike at. 409 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: Each phase of our life. Like, I think that that's human. 410 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: You think that people that are married, first of all, 411 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: do you believe that people can be married for thirty 412 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: two years and never step outside their marriage? 413 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: I haven't been. We mean to step outside? Like, look, yeah, 414 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: I think so okay, So. 415 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: In doing that because you believe that, do you believe 416 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: that there's times within those thirty two years that those 417 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: people are going to not desire each other, not want 418 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: to be with each other, not agree. When I say 419 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: not desire, I mean physically, mentally, all of that. 420 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: I understand that it's just a platform, it's publicly. I 421 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: think we do need to hold certain people as it 422 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: was a hope. I really think that's important for. 423 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 3: The it's the president. 424 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 4: Martin Luther King's wife kept talking about how much you 425 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: cheated all the time. She said, no, the movement is 426 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: bigger than our marriage. 427 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: She did Martin Luther King's wife. But it's also a 428 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: generation thing. She is older than Michelle Obama. 429 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: I think that. 430 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: Making recipes, so we lose a recipe. 431 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: I think because it's so crazy is Michelle Obama and 432 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Tracy Ellis Ross talked about this on the episode that 433 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: we talked about prior to this, how as the generations 434 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: come along. That's why Chercy Alice Ross was saying she 435 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: dates younger, because she was saying that like younger men 436 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: are just open to different ideas of what relationships and 437 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: the rules of engagement should be, not engagement like marriage, 438 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: but like just how a relationship is set up. Like 439 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: we come from the era of what happens in the 440 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: house stays in the house. Right, You're not getting on 441 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: a platform talking about your men and nothing in general. 442 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: And I do for me I'm an honor that like, 443 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: especially because I'm on the like I get on the 444 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: radio every day, and even in the small relationship stuff 445 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: that I do talk about, I'm always thinking about how 446 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: the other person will perceive that or how it can 447 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: be taken for the other person. And I can't imagine 448 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: if the world knew, you know what I mean, Like 449 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: if I had a boyfriend and y'all knew who my 450 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: boyfriend was, and he is, you know what I mean, 451 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: out here doing his thing and then he got to 452 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: run into people. 453 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: That's like, oh yeah, Because Learne was just saying, you 454 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 455 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I think about that, But I think the younger that 456 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: the generations get you feel a certain type of freedom 457 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: or power where it's like, it's empowering me to talk 458 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: about this because now I feel like I don't got it. 459 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Like if Michelle Bob's ex to Barack and we catch 460 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: a little side eye, now we know I she don't 461 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: like him every day, but she loved him, And don't 462 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: say nothing to her man or to her about her man. 463 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: She's human. It's sanity at the end of the day. 464 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: And that's what she was talking a lot about in 465 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: this episode. It's like for her mental health, she had 466 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: to learn how to say no. If I want to 467 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: talk about what goes on because it helps me to 468 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: feel human and it helps the world to see him 469 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: as a human, I gotta do it. And I'm not 470 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: angry bitter because of it. Is there anything else you 471 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: want to yell at black women about today? So I 472 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: don't want to yell by outside of our household. 473 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: I don't like whatever specific thing, you know what I mean? 474 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: And I do want to acknowledge she probably went through 475 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: a lot, and we talked about it for you. You 476 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: yelled at me again that you know, she probably had 477 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: that hard like put having to put her career on 478 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 4: this side, and it's soly be a mother and being 479 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 4: the public eye, and she maybe wasn't ready for a 480 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: lot of the things. So I'm not even downplaying everything 481 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: she went through. 482 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: I just don't. 483 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: I just do you feel like men's feelings are equally 484 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: considered in relationships and marriages? 485 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: Nah? 486 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: And it's not all on y'all either, Like we we 487 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: downplay our feelings a lot too, So y'all wouldn't even 488 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: think we better end it all? But uh no, it's 489 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: not I don't think so I feel like I. 490 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: Pick up on it more now. 491 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: And that's why to me, when I hear her talking 492 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: about human eyesing Barack, I feel like it's almost like 493 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: a method of protection, Like I want you to see 494 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: him as the person and I see him as so 495 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: that you can, yeah, so that he can get some 496 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: empathy because he needs it, because he probably goes through 497 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: so much behind the scenes trying to keep things together. 498 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: Y'all have to think about y'all feelings first, we think 499 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: about her last, we think about our feelings first. 500 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, crying, the thought like crying for the 501 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: girl feels crazy. 502 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: You never cried with any of your girlfriends or you're 503 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: like girls you were talking to. 504 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: I was in the bathroom, the closest away from the door. 505 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: I came outside, but. 506 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: Brandon, Brandon tried to put water on his face. When 507 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: he came out, he was just like, yeah face, Yeah, 508 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: then that's crazy. I don't want my man had to 509 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: go and cry in the bathroom. I want you to 510 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: be human. I want you to be vulnerable. I want 511 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: you to be you know, all of these things with reason, though, like. 512 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: Here we go, here we go, the reason would. 513 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: You say, Patrick, Yeah, no, now with a condition. 514 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: But just like, Okay, what's the list of things I 515 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: can't cry about? 516 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: Wait if you send your man cry watching the movie? 517 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: But my man would laugh at me crying at a movie, 518 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: So why can't I laugh at him? Like it would 519 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: be funny, Like it'd be like, oh, look at you, 520 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: and I would laugh. But when I said with the reason, 521 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: I just mean like I don't want you to be 522 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: so emotional that it's like a you're not even a hindrance, 523 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: but like you're emotionally unstable, you know what I mean? 524 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Where like have you ever dated somebody or dealt with 525 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: people where it's like like, yes, granted, things should have emotion, 526 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: you should be able to feel, you should be able 527 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: to be a person. But sometimes it's just like WHOA 528 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: did this equal all of that? Like that type of thing, 529 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Like I want you to be able to feel and 530 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: all of that, but I don't want I don't want 531 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: to be your emotional punching back is what I'm saying. 532 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes when you create space and create 533 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: room for things, I just don't ever want it to 534 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: be miscommunicated because I don't want to. I don't want 535 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: to punch it back nobody else, Like if I'm having 536 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: a day, You're not gonna have a bad day because 537 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a bad day. It is what I'm saying, 538 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: So like emotion, but us knowing how to like navigate 539 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: each other's emotions so that I'm helping you through it 540 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: or I'm at least supporting you through it, even if 541 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: it's just like I'm sitting there in silence and we 542 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: just like scrolling on our phones like they're like, you know, 543 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm just you called me, you need to talk, and 544 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm just listening, but not like, okay, now you're throwing 545 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: dark that darts my way because it's something you experience 546 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: because you know I'm there for you, And I don't 547 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: think that it should be the other way around either. 548 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that it should be like that with 549 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: women as well. And I've done that in my past 550 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: as well too. 551 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: So I'm being. 552 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: Accountable or whatever. But leave Michelle about my alone brand 553 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: and keep her name much of my own. 554 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: I think very highly of Michelle about I just wish, well, 555 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 4: we're gonna leave. 556 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: You on that. 557 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: And wrapping it up, what have we learned from today, y'all? 558 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: This is the part where we kind of summarize everything 559 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: that we have been talking about into like one overall, 560 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: Like all right, here's here's today's takeaway. So we went 561 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: from Shannon Club to Michelle Obama and Obama Household. 562 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: What do we learn today? 563 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: You know, y'all really can learn how to control yourself, 564 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 4: Like that's ridiculous. One of the things you're doing is ridiculous. 565 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: Or if you really need to get that off, you 566 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: gotta be more disagreet with it. But it's ridiculous, Michelle Obama. 567 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: What I've learned from that is like, from what you're 568 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: saying is like the other side of it, the grace. 569 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: You know she may need and why she's lashing. 570 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: Out, lashing out while she's. 571 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: Expressed herself in these ways. 572 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there's different things you learn from 573 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 4: both the stories we talked about. 574 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: What I learned from all of this is there should 575 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: be a golden rule, and I think that there probably 576 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: is one. I just don't know the quote for, but 577 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: it should be golden to be able to protect your peace, 578 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: your household, your reputation, your brand, just like how you're 579 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: interacting with people and how you deal with an impression 580 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: that you leave when the people you interact with and 581 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: like how that echo into the world. So I don't 582 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: know what went down with Shannon Sharp with and this 583 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: girl or what didn't go down, but something wasn't protected 584 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: somewhere on someone's side, and now we're getting all of 585 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: this like and it's it's it's it's not good. And 586 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: I think that you know, just learning how to protect 587 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: everything you've worked for. But that's I don't know. That's 588 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: kind of crazy to say, because if if on the 589 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: other side, like if what she's alleging is true, like 590 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: if right, yeah, there's no way that you yeah, no, no, no, 591 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: because there's no way that you know, you don't you 592 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: don't go somewhere like not trying to protect yourself from 593 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: things like sexual assault. So I don't know, its crazy. 594 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: But no, you should definitely, I don't know to say anyway. 595 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I don't know if 596 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I've learned anything from Shannon Sharp. 597 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just leave that there. I think that 598 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: that's just I'm gonna just leave it there. 599 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: But as far as Michelle Obama, while I tweeted this thing, 600 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: he tweeted he said, too much exposure invites entitlement and 601 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: too much access disrespect. When people feel they can reach 602 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: you at any time, see you everywhere, and speak to 603 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: you however they want, they begin to forget your value. 604 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: Mystery protects respect, boundaries protect peace, and I think I 605 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: think that it goes to your point of what you're 606 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: saying about Michelle Obama and how she speaks out about 607 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: certain things that go into you know what I mean. Yeah, 608 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: But I also think that it speaks to what she's 609 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: trying to say as well too. She's managing how people 610 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: deal with her so that they deal with her in 611 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: a way that is respectful and according in a line 612 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: to you know, where her mental was at. 613 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: So that is it. That is all. But we had 614 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: a good time, Brandon, thank you for joining us. 615 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: Had a great time. 616 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: Also, I probably didn't expressed myself in the best way 617 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 4: of this episode. 618 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: But then you gotta come back. You gotta come back, 619 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: You gotta come back. So this has been the latest 620 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: with Laura l Rosa. I am Laura l Rosa, your 621 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: homegrowl that knows a bit about everything. And everybody tell you, 622 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: guys this every time because I want you to know 623 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean it. At the end of the day, you 624 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: guys could be anywhere with anybody, because it'd be a 625 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: lot going down talking about all this stuff. But y'all 626 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: used to be right here with me every single episode, 627 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: and for that I appreciate you. 628 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: Guys. I will see you in my next episode.