1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: You Did. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Daniel Henderson, and 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: we're a film podcast. I hope you know that. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: If not, then start getting acquainted. Actually, have you noticed 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: that people like in the comments of like our social 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: media are like I just started it, I'm on episode 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: fifty one or whatever, and I was like, yo, we 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: recorded a lot of episodes a lot. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: I noticed that too, that like some emails, especially like 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: we just have a lot of seemingly new listeners. So 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: thank you for being here, but yeah, you got a 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: lot to catch up on. Some of these these inside 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: jokes won't hit unless you go all the way back. 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Also, I'm scared to go all the way back for you. 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I am listen like it's been a million years since 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: I've listened to like the early days. 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: Me too, Me too. I just know that at some 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: point early on I popped off on the recipes on 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: the back of a cracker box. So I feel like, well, 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: nothing has really changed that much since then, Like we're 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: still who we are. I just you're right, like I've 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: never gone back to the beginning and listened all the 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: way through. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually remember when we recorded that episode. Strange enough, 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: because I was living in my parents' guest bedroom during COVID. 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Remember, God, that was a long time ago. It's kind 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: of remarkable, actually. 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: Isn't it. 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of wild. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like kind of no time has passed. 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: But then you're like, oh, like it's been like four years. 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, four years. It's basically I'm closer to fifty now 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: than I was when we started. Yeah, and that feels wild. 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: And being like, like most of my birthdays, I don't 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: usually track in a way that feels like, oh God, 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: I'm so old. For some reason, this year, I'm feeling 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the passage of time very intensely. 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Dude. 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how rocked I was by this 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: latest birthday that I had this year. I don't know why, 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: because when I tried forty, I was like, who gives 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: a shit? Like all these like times were people like 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: traditionally freak out. I never freaked, But for some reason, 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: this year it's been It's been a nightmare, to be honest, because. 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know's. 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: There's like certain things where I'm like, I think the overarching, 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: the overarching concern that I have and I don't really 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: know if this is how you feel? 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Is that so? 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Then so now I'm like, yeah, closer to fifty. Actually 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the middle, but now it feels closer. 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: To fifty than forty. Right, I just am uncertain of 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: how to be at this age. 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I think, what what am I supposed to wear? 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Am I supposed to stop listening to trap music? Like, 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how to be at 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: all because I don't have kids, I'm. 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: Not married, so I'm not like functionally, I'm still the 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: same person I was when I was like twenty five. 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: But right, you know, that's why maybe the passage of 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: time feels weird because I feel like it's been a 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: long time since I've had a major marker of time 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: in my life, like I did an event or I 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: did a thing, Like it's just been a while since 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: I've had something that definitive, definitively was like, oh you 69 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: are this age now? Yeah, And you're right, like, I 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: don't know what to wear I look and it's heightened 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: by the fact that I live in my hometown. 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: No, And I feel like I look and dress the 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: way I did when I originally lived here as a teenager. Like, 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: not much has changed. I just have some more tattoos. Yeah, 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: but like it is strange. Even today, I went out 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: a Metaphene for a cup of car and I ran 78 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: into this woman I used to babysit for, not Helen, 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: who I'm like friends with and actually talk to you 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: and hang out with hi Helen. Hey, but I met 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: another woman that I used to babysit for, and she 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I'm like sixty seven now and like 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: the kid you used the baby's at four is forty and. 84 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 2: It's like what what Wow? 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: But I'm still exactly the same dirt bag, Like what 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: are you talking about? Like it's it's just it's just 87 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: weird to know how to be right now. 88 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: And it's like, because I swear to God, I truly 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: feel like twelve years old and seventy years old at 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: the same time completely. 92 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: And so there's this middle part where. 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know how to be because 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like, Okay, I have to covey 95 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: out this by saying, you know that I got on 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: TikTok yeah, like a while back, and I am sad 97 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to report. 98 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with TikTok. I cannot That's why they're. 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: Trying to That's why they're trying to shut it down 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: because everyone is obsessed with it. 101 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: It's it's too fucking powerful, like it's and like the 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: funny thing is is that I remember I had like 103 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: one of my old coworkers, Liz Winter, who is one 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world. 105 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: She's probably listening. 106 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: Hey, Liz. 107 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: She told me like two years ago. She was like, 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: TikTok is my addiction. I can't get off this thing. 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: And I kind of looked at her like she was nuts, 110 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: because I was like, you actually watched TikTok Like she 111 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you don't watch like Instagram reels. I'm like, no, 112 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: why would I do that. It's like random people. Why 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: would I watch random people? 114 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: And here we are. I don't know how to get 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: into TikTok. I love everything I see that anyone posts, 116 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: like when people post things on Instagram, or when you 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: send me things, or whenever anyone sends me things. I 118 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: love it. When I actually go onto my account, I'm like, 119 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how to find anything good. I don't 120 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: know what to do. 121 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Well and see this is that was kind of I 122 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: think my initial approach was that I was like, this 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: is all just so rambly and weird and I don't 124 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: even know like what the topics are. But then I think, 125 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: because so many people forward me tiktoks, that now the 126 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: algorithm is based on whatever they've been forwarding me. 127 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Right now, my tiktoks. 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Are usually about weird Atlanta shit because Atlanta is not real. 129 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: We know this, right, Atlanta is not real. 130 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: That's like the phrase that pays where it's just like 131 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: the weirdest shit happens here. Uh, there's no it's total anarchy, 132 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: and so like people will be like, oh, like there's 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: a horse and the Tim Hortons drive through and there's 134 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: an astronaut on it or whatever. 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: Like it's like and everyone's like, cant you believe the shit? Right? 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: You're You're a whisper away from being Florida Man. 137 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, It's like if Florida Man was a rapper. 138 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: Just imagine That's that's what Atlanta is. 139 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: You know what I love. Recently, or like, as I say, 140 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: in the past month, people have been posting and sending 141 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: this meme where everyone is reviewing the crazy things they 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: did for their former crushes. 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's. 144 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: So fucking funny because it starts with like a slowed 145 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: down version of the song crazy. So it's like, I 146 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: remember when I lost my song no no the selo 147 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: and what's his face? And it's like, I remember when 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: I lost my mind? And then they show the thing 149 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: they did. So it's like, oh, my crush said that 150 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: he liked mermaids. So I got in a bathtub and 151 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: started singing a song and posted it on my page, 152 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: hoping he would see it or something like it's fucking hilarious. 153 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: I don't know how to find more of those. I 154 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: don't I only know what people post. If I could 155 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: just go and be like, show me the crush meme 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: on TikTok, I'd be on there all day. 157 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, First of all, I just pointed out the 158 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: entire reason I should not be on TikTok is. Then 159 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they using that Patsy kline versions crazy, 160 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Like a nineteen year old kid is fucking listen to that? 161 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: Oh God, true, truly, I mean this, it's to the 162 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: point where I started. I was having a conversation with 163 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: a friend of my my friend Sachi Cole, who's a journalist, 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: and she's a culture journalist, and I think I said you, 165 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: I told you what she said. But I've been asking 166 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: her to explain certain pop culture things to me lately 167 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: because I just don't know. So I sent her like 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: a who's Shawn Mendes or who's this person? And she's like, Danielle, 169 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: You're like, this is like calling NASA and asking have 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: you ever seen the sun? She's like, this is my 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: full time fucking job. And also like, how do you 172 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: not know these people? I'm like, oh, because I had 173 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: like a full time job and I couldn't engage on 174 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: the internet all day and figure this shit out. And 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: also there's so much that I don't care about now, 176 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: like I'm just trying to put my effort towards things 177 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: that I actually care about, so wasting like spending time 178 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: copious amounts of time scrolling on my phone feels like 179 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: a waste of time to me, so I don't do it. 180 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: So it means that I genuinely am checked out of 181 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: so much of the world. And it made me realize, oh, 182 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: this is how people wither. This is how they get 183 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: get old and feel old, is they just check the 184 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: fuck out because they're like, I don't have time or 185 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: energy for this anymore, because it also used to be 186 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: my job. I was a fucking culture writer for years. Yeah, 187 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: I knew everything about everything, and now I don't know 188 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: shit about fuck yeah. 189 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, and that is like the one thing that has 190 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: like I think I was. I mean, let's get serious, 191 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: I programmed classic movies for twenty years. 192 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: So then you also have your your like in your twenties, 193 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: like teens, twenties, even thirties, where you were ahead of shit, 194 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: and maybe that's the feeling, is like I'm never going 195 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: to be on the forefront of culture again. Yeah, I'm 196 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: never going to be the person who discovers a thing 197 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: or like never again. 198 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Well, and like there's a part of me that so 199 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: when I'm in my deepest, darkest moms like three am insomnia, 200 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: scrolling TikTok, there are times where I'm. 201 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: Like, oh, this is just shit that we've done, do. 202 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, this is not new culture. 204 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: This is people remembering that certain things exist, you know, 205 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: like right now everybody's like doing the fucking douggie and shit, 206 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, I've posted about the Dougie like 207 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: last year. And also I remember when the Dougie came 208 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: out because I was a DJ and a club when 209 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: that shit came out. So there's this like moment where 210 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, So it's not as if I'm a 211 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: complete alien. It's just that people are just finding things 212 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: that I've already found. But then griping about that makes. 213 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: Me feel old? Does that makes sense? 214 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: This was my my my teen years and I'm like, god, 215 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm that person now that's like, yo, we this was 216 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: ours first and y'all are posers And I'm like, no, 217 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: now I'm that like grumpy gen X or that's like, 218 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, nothing is as good as it was in 219 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: like ninety. 220 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: Four or whatever. I don't know. So I'm like, this 221 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: is what I meant is I don't know how to be. 222 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how to act around any of this stuff, 223 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: and I'm genuinely entertained by a lot of it. That's 224 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: the funny thing is that I like it, like I love. 225 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: Part of what comes up in my algorithm too is 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: rapper interviews. So like you know, like I sent you 227 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: the one about Vince Staples, and like I. 228 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: Say, I wonder if that's because you've been sending me 229 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: Vin Staples videos. 230 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: But like that pops up a lot in my feed too, 231 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is fucking funny, Like all 232 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: this stuff is funny and I'm amused by it. But 233 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm also sitting there going, is this Should I be 234 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: doing this? Like? Should I not be like on the 235 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: board of like an art museum. Why am I on 236 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: TikTok watching. 237 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: People doing viral dances and cook ramen and shit? Like 238 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 239 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. If you were on a board 240 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: of an art museum and you didn't know what was 241 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: happening in this side of culture, you'd be bad at 242 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: your job. 243 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: That's so true. 244 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, to my credit, I actually am on a board, 245 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, I cross that off the list. I am 246 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: absolutely actual, an actual adult. 247 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: I refuse to like call my as you know, I 248 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: refuse to refer to myself as old because I'm not. 249 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: But there is a weird line of demarcation now where 250 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm riding a line that I'm not 251 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: comfortable with, which is, yeah, bitch, i know I'm not young, 252 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: but I'm also not ready to check out of society 253 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: and like start shaking my fist at shit, Like I'm 254 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: just right in that weird I'm in a weird, weird crease. 255 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to invoke people that are a little older 256 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: than me, who who I think are timelessly cool, right, 257 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: And I'm. 258 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Being like, what are y'all doing? Right? 259 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: Like, because, for example, Jim Jarmish, the director, Jim Jarmish, 260 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: he is the coolest adult to ever walk the earth 261 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: to me, right, He's cool, he has a great look, 262 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: he has, you know, a body of work that is impeccable. 263 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan, you know. 264 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here go and I know that he's 265 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: addressed this. I mean, that's what like The Only Lovers 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Left Alive is about, is basically about aging and trying 267 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: to retain some kind of coolness or whatever. And I'm 268 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: just like, he has an Instagram, So I'm like, okay, 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: he has Instagram. If Jim Dramas has an Instagram, any posts, 270 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: that means I should have an Instagram. 271 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: And see, maybe. 272 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: I'm going the exact opposite way. Uh oh, where I 273 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: think because I get what you're saying completely, but I 274 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 3: think I've reached a point in life where I'm like, 275 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: wait a minute. I like myself. I'm confident I know 276 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: what I like. I know how to find information, like 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: I know how to engage. I just I like who 278 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: I am. So I'm not paying attention to what anyone 279 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: else is doing as a blueprint for how I should 280 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 3: live my life. 281 00:13:59,520 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: There you go. 282 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, if I do it and I think it's cool, 283 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: then it's cool. Sure, I agree, but I also understand 284 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: what you mean where you're like, wait, but when I 285 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: reach Jim Jarmish's age, I basically everything I do in 286 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: my life is with an eye on not becoming the 287 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: old man in the club. 288 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 289 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: That's the true mark of death for me. When you're like, oh, 290 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: you're stuck in a moment and we'll talk about it 291 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: in your film this week, where like you're dressing like 292 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: a thing that no longer exists and you look like 293 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: a relic, or you're talking about shit that nobody's talking about, 294 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: and you can't you can't like actually communicate with or 295 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: connect with people. I don't want to be the old 296 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: man in the club, like hallahalahala. 297 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: Like Madonna. 298 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, exactly, like I do not want to be 299 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: Madonna now. But I also think, like whenever you do, 300 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: if you like it, it's fucking cool. And we've earned that. 301 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: We've reached an age. I think everyone should feel that 302 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: way obviously, but like we've reached an age where we've 303 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: specifically earned that. 304 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 305 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: No, I listen as much, which as I am, like 306 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: needing some guidance from the elder punk statesman. I do 307 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: recognize at this point that I'm cool and have lived 308 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: a cool life. 309 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 310 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Like, that's like the one thing about aging, by the way, 311 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: kids that is fantastic is that you're just the foundation 312 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: has really settled and you're just like, oh, like I'm 313 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: not a loser, Like look at my life, Like I'm not. 314 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Like I've lived enough life where I've done enough cool things, 315 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: like I have friends that can get me you know, 316 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: VIP access. 317 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: To things like I travel, I know cool people. I 318 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: you know. 319 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just more about like how to feel 320 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: comfortable with being the age that you are now when 321 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: you are in front of so many things that are 322 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: trying to make you feel old. 323 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of how how it is. 324 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trying to make you feel completely disconnected. 325 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think I remember when I 326 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: was I think I was in my twenty See, I 327 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: always had a reverence for older people, you know, Like 328 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I was never this person that's like I want to 329 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: be young forever and like, but you know, I hope 330 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: I die before I get. 331 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Old, you know that bullshit. 332 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, like I never had this, Like I 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: never celebrated youth. 334 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: I always wanted to be older. I always saw people ten. 335 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Years older than me were much cooler than me, and 336 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to be them. So I've never had that feeling. 337 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: So I guess that's good for me now because it 338 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: does make me feel I mean, I'm not out there 339 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: like spiraling because I'm the agent att but it is 340 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: different when you're in front of things like TikTok and 341 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Instagram reels or whatever and you're just sort of like, oh, yeah, 342 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: here's all these young people. 343 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: They're all like gorgeous and like. 344 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: They're all just like creating content and like being weird 345 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: in a very public space, and you're just kind of like, huh, 346 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: like I. 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: Can't I didn't do that, or I you know what 348 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: I mean. 349 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm just sort of like, I don't know people 350 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: celebrating their age more. 351 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Yeah, I think that we're Well, that's 352 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: something to also keep in mind, hopefully as a positive, 353 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: which I try to remember, is that we're also in 354 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: a space where nobody has been in their forties the 355 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: way that we are in our forties right now. 356 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 357 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Generationally, we are a bridge between internet and no internet. 358 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: We are a bridge between so many things culturally. Nobody 359 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: has been in their forties this way before. Like it's like, oh, 360 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: in the past, you've reached your forties, you're established at 361 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: a job, at a home and kids and all that. 362 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: Some people still have that, But we also are just 363 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: again like in this weird cultural moment where I don't 364 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: think we have a lot of models because nobody has 365 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: been this kind of forty before. Yeah, So that means 366 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: like should be freeing for you or something that makes 367 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: you feel good? Is that like, oh no, we're still 368 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: kind of maybe we're still figuring some shit out because 369 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: we just don't have a clear path the way that 370 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: other people have when they hit forty five or forty seven. 371 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, for the most part, I 372 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: think when my parents were in their forties, I mean 373 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: they were pretty locked down. They had like, you know, 374 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: the home the cars, the briefcase, the adult clothes. 375 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: They weren't like going to Marvel movies or whatever. 376 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 5: You know. 377 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I think it's totally spot on because I just think 378 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: the acceleration of everything has created this like I don't 379 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: know this, like it's confusion of how to be at 380 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: any age. I do agree with you, because it is 381 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: like who you are at whatever age is fine and great, 382 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: and the culture comes to you. It's not the other 383 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: way round type of thing. But yeah, sometimes it's just 384 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: it's just hard, and I think the message is really 385 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: to get off TikTok. I think I just have to 386 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: study in watching TikTok. 387 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: Maybe pair it down, maybe don't look at the algorithms 388 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: and just look at some accounts that you like every 389 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: once in a while. 390 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing, Like nobody I know is 391 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: on TikTok. 392 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have like forty friends on TikTok. 393 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: And actually, you know who has a great one is 394 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: like one of our cohorts at exactly Right Media on 395 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: a lease. 396 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: Ooh. Well they're just fabulous in general. But so that's 397 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: not surprising, like. 398 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: A content machine. 399 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: And they make music. 400 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm like so impressed, yes, so impressed by that, but like, 401 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing is that most people I know are 402 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: not on there right I have to watch the algorithm. 403 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: You are at the mercy of the algorithm right now. 404 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: I think, find some people, even if they're not people 405 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: you know in real life, just people you enjoy their content, 406 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: and just focus on some of those and go to bed. 407 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: Go to bed, get some sleep. Don't be up at 408 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: three am scroll in TikTok, because that's a resc of 409 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: you for fucking disaster to begin with. 410 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: Who the fuck is sleeping right now? 411 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: You're actually like, oh, just go to bed, like it's 412 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a choice. Like it's a fucking choice to. 413 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: Go to bed. 414 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: I got myself to such an amazing place with my 415 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: sleep schedule, my sleep hygiene, all that was fucking tight. 416 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what. Actually I do know what happened, 417 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: but I don't know why. I'm not fixing it because 418 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how many days a week I 419 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 3: wake up on the couch at two o'clock in the 420 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: morning and just hit play on a movie again. I'm like, 421 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: all right, I'm up, I'm here, I'm in front of 422 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: the TV. I'm gonna fucking hit play. I should be 423 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: going to bed. I should have gone to bed already. 424 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: My phone tells me to go to bed at eight o'clock. 425 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: I can't, Like, Why am I still up doing this shit? 426 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: Why did I watch The Town again? And then it 427 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: I fell asleep because I started it at twelve thirty am. Yeah, 428 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: and it's like a two hour fucking movie. I fell asleep. 429 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: I woke up, just press play again. Why I've seen 430 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: the Town, I've seen The Town more than I've seen 431 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 3: most movies. 432 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm telling you. They're so reasons why I'm 433 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: not sleeping right now. I mean, many of it is 434 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: relating to just like anxiety, to be honest, because I'm 435 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm in another round of applying for jobs, so I'm 436 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: going on a lot of interviews, so I'm just stressed 437 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: out about that. I have an old dog who like 438 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: truly like, I started giving my dog trasidoone at night 439 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: because she's like an old lady and she can't like 440 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: settle down. 441 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: And now let me tell you can take that shit too, 442 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: because I used to have a dog that was on 443 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: fucking that was on fucking zoloft. Yeah, and they were like, 444 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, is this like just human grade zoloft in 445 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: a smaller dose, and they were like absolutely, and I 446 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: was like, fuck absolutely taking these pills. Shit. 447 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean I probably should to be honest, but I 448 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, so you just have all these factors. It's 449 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: like stress, anxiety, old dog. My dance teacher has been 450 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: out of town for the last couple of weeks, so 451 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: I haven't been going to his class, like the general 452 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: state of the world, uh, you know, et cetera, et cetera. 453 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, yeah, I guess I'm not sleeping. 454 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm using TikTok as a way to get me through insomnia, 455 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't be because it's fucking me up. 456 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: So you should be using your dog's medication to get 457 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: through sleepless. 458 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: I gotta share, share as this is my dog, for sure. 459 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: But share some meds with that dog, or just you know, 460 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 3: get a cup of tea and get go to like 461 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: go to bed in a way that you have to 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: fall asleep, like leave your phone in another room if 463 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: you fucking have to just to reset a little bit, 464 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: because it's too easy. It's too easy if you have 465 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: insomnia to be like I also can just get up 466 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: and do a bunch of shit. Or watch a bunch 467 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: of shit. It's too easy to get to be sleepless 468 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: right now. 469 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, I know. 470 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for talking this out with me. I feeling 471 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot better actually, of course. 472 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: Girl, of course, you know it's what I'm here for. 473 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: And also maybe like I feel like we text, like 474 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: we do some fire texting, like post ten pm. Yeah, 475 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: and like sending forty five memes on Instagram. I'll just 476 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: start sending that shit in the morning. 477 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, although I do love looking like one 478 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: of my favorite things in the world is laying down 479 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: and looking at my phone. 480 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: I know, I know it's so terrible. 481 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: You can do it. You can do it. Just put 482 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: limits on it, because I've had to do this, and 483 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying this advice for myself as well, like I 484 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: have to put limits on my shit. 485 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. 486 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna gonna recalibrate and hopefully next week, well 487 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: I'll be in a much better headspace about all of this. 488 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 3: I think you will be. If you physically get in 489 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: bed at eight o'clock, you have no hope but to 490 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: get a good night's sleep. 491 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, But it's also. 492 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's summer. You're going out more, you're 493 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 3: seeing friends, you're drinking more. Maybe it's just a seasonal thing, 494 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: and that's fine too. 495 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: I know it's like the residual from the horny spring. 496 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: I can't get these little bugs out of my bloodstream. 497 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I gotta go to bed, I gotta delete. 498 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: TikTok. We've got a theme. Oh my god, this theme 499 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: speaking of youth. What the fuck? How did this happen? 500 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: This is what set the this is what set the 501 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: stage for us to be who we are now in 502 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: so many ways. 503 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to talk about it? What's the 504 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: name of the theme? 505 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: Sure, as he'll do, because our theme this week is 506 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: summer of eighth grade movies we watched on repeat as kids. 507 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: Ah so lou lay true. 508 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: And I feel like anytime we dip back into movies 509 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: that have defined us in some way, it's wild to 510 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: unders have an understanding now of the impact of them 511 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: on like my personality in general. Oh my god, like 512 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: my movie we're gonna get into it and it might 513 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: get real raw, but like my movie One impacted me 514 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: in a way that it is so tender and intense. 515 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I are, You're going to first this week. 516 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: Thank God. 517 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: Well, if you decide to use the entire episode to 518 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: talk about your movie, I would be okay with that 519 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: because this was this was the first time watching for me, 520 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: and I actually texted you in the middle of it 521 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: because I was fucking. 522 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: So locked in, do you know what I mean? 523 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: Like, I was so locked in with what was happening 524 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: and who was in it that I was like, because 525 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen it before, and it's it's shocking actually 526 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: that I hadn't seen it before because a because I'm 527 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: one of two biggest Keanu Reeves fans in the entire world. 528 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: The other one being you. 529 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: But also just like it's a coming of age movie 530 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: and I just you know, it's a thing where I'm like, 531 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: how did I miss this? 532 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: This is so crazy. 533 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people missed it, which is 534 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: why I wanted to pick it because there are a 535 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 3: lot of movies that impacted me as a kid. Yeah, 536 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: you know, I was. I was lucky in that way 537 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 3: that I had no supervision and my grandmother loved loves movies, 538 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: so I washed everything. But this one, really, this one 539 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: I recorded off of HBO. I can still vividly see 540 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: the tape that I used to record it. It was 541 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: a yellow tape with black stripes, and I wrote in 542 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: my little sixth grade hand handwriting the name of my 543 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: film on the cover, and it was so important to 544 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: me that I'd never recorded anything else on the tape. 545 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: I had like six hours left on that tape because 546 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: I didn't want to risk recording over a second of it. 547 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you pop out that little black 548 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: square so that nobody could record over it? 549 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: Fuck? Yeah, I did? You think My family were monsters? 550 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: They would be like, oh is this what your birth 551 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: you're christening? Were recording over it because I want to 552 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 3: see tales from the crypt, like they would record over 553 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: anything always. So I all was costantly pop on that 554 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: tab out. 555 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like the fuck you are? This thing is 556 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: flicking across the room. This is precious, This is precious. 557 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: And then yeah, I remember the only way okay, if 558 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: you're not old enough to know what what the fuck 559 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about. 560 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: Basically, on a VHS. 561 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Tape, there was this tiny little flexible tab that was 562 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: like on the outside that if you popped it off, 563 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: that meant that you could not record anything else onto 564 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: that tape, right, So if you wanted something you wanted 565 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: to keep, such as Daniel's movie this week, you would 566 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: just pop that shit out. 567 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: Or if you did have a tape and you. 568 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Actually popped it out, there's a trick that I learned, 569 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: which is that you put tape over it and then 570 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: you could record again. But this was the reality of 571 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: home recording in the days before DVDs. 572 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: So desperate, desperate, and like I said, other than a 573 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: family of ghouls. I'd come home thinking, I'm going to 574 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 3: watch like your movie, for example, and I'd pop that 575 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: tape in and it would be four hours of days 576 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: of our lives with the commercials, with the commercials, and 577 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, are you kidding me? So yeah, but I 578 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: really I just also have a real reverence for that 579 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: time when I was just discovering so much through film. 580 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: I felt like I was really connecting to a lot 581 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: of the storylines and the narratives, like it's just been. 582 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: It was a really important point of my life. I 583 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: want to know what you were doing in the summer 584 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: of eighth grade, because what I was doing was I 585 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: was in drum corps, so I was carrying my baritone 586 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: horn to practices and to parades, and I'd be practicing 587 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: my music and practicing my marches and practicing my flag 588 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: holding and all that shit. And then any I was 589 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: not working except for babysitting, because of course when you're 590 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: twelve thirteen years old, you have a full babysitting business 591 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: in full swing every summer where. 592 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: You were taking care of actual infants sometimes. 593 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: Actually children like three years younger than you, and you're 594 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: in charge. And so I had a full as schedule 595 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: with babysitting, and then I would just watch movies. I 596 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: would just watch movies. Yeah, So I feel like that 597 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: feels important to me in terms of our podcast because 598 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: it was just such a manning time for me. 599 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was playing sports pretty much all summer. 600 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, traveling, softball, tennis, which I was 601 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: terrible at. By the way, I wrote this thing on 602 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: my substack when challengers came out talking about like my 603 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: tennis days, and my dad was like a huge tennis guy, 604 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: like and he was like, I finally convinced my daughter 605 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: to get on you know, the ALTA Atlanta Lawn Tennis 606 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Association team or the USTA team or whatever. And I 607 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: was fucking awful. I loved it, but I was terrible. 608 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: Like this will not be the lifelong commitment that you 609 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: think it's going to be dead. 610 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah no, and like and but also just yeah, so 611 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: sports like big time sports. And then you know when 612 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: my like we'd always have our cousins. We had these 613 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: my cousins. I have like two sets of cousins, one 614 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: one of whom lives in North Carolina, and we were 615 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: really close to them because they were close to our age. 616 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Like one one of my cousins was a girl, she 617 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: was my age, and then the boy was my sister's age, 618 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: and so they would come down and spend like two 619 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: weeks with us, and we would just film ourselves on 620 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: a camcorder doing dances to like Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 621 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: eighteen fourteen, you know whatever, like Salt and Pepa, like 622 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: all of the like important music and new jack swing 623 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: bands from the era. 624 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: We would just film ourselves doing like dances. 625 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: See this is why you're on TikTok till three o'clock 626 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: in the fucking morning, because you were the first wave. 627 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: You had the prototype. 628 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I mean I should literally put those online 629 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: because they are so funny and stupid. 630 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: If you still have them and you're not losing them 631 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: I'm mad at you. Oh I know, I know, and 632 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: that should be your whole TikTok. 633 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were the original viral dancers, I suppose, And 634 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: that's why I watch viral like I watch especially choreography, 635 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: like if I like if a band is like a dance, 636 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: if they're like a dance crew, or like they dance 637 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: like their band dances. I watch all of your choreography, 638 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: all of it all the time. But yeah, that's what 639 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: I was doing, is making stupid dance videos and playing sports. 640 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: But honestly, for me, the movies this week are so 641 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: interesting because I think they're really like close to because 642 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: I have this theory. I think I floated this before 643 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: on an episode where I feel like the thing is 644 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: that you. 645 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: Really enjoyed in middle school were kind of like the. 646 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Blueprint for your personality, right, you just talked about this, 647 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: and I oftentimes wonder why that is. And I think 648 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: that middle school is this like weird transitional time for 649 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: you because you're not a kid, right, but you're not 650 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: an adult either, so you're not necessarily going out there 651 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: and like because by the time high school comes around, 652 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: you're out there like smoking cigarettes with like your friends 653 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: and driving downtown, and you have a job, probably less 654 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: if you're us, you have a job, right, so you're 655 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of landlocked in this field of like, well, I 656 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: want some independence, but I still have to hang out 657 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: with my parents on a Friday night. And so you 658 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: end up watching a lot of movies and a lot 659 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: of TV. And I feel like all the things that 660 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: came out in middle school, if you that's kind of 661 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: like when you say you have like your favorite movies, 662 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: your your taste in movies or music comes from that time. 663 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah, I think so too. And 664 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: I think it's it's a time when you really and 665 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: I hope this is still true for eighth graders and 666 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: for kids, but I feel like it's a time before 667 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: you're really tasked with too much to do, so you 668 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: really have space to explore what you actually like for 669 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: the first time instead of what's just being put in 670 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: front of you. 671 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a powerful time. Yeah. I think that's like. 672 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: When most kids, like I always be like this is 673 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: the time where they accidentally watch their first porn or something. 674 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: It's like you're just there all you're just constantly you 675 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: just want the information and you're the audience for it. 676 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: You're like a wrapped audience for it, because again, you're 677 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: not an adult and you're not a baby. 678 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I. 679 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: And maybe there's a chemical explanation. If there's any biologists 680 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: listening right now, is there something going on with the 681 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: twelve year old brain that makes you more susceptible to 682 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: the shit? 683 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 684 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there is, yo biologist, I 685 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: saw what you did. Pottgmail dot com. 686 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: Baby way in, we want to hear from biochemists. We're 687 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: taking a real hard turn on this cast. 688 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: So listen, let's. 689 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Go, because I cannot wait to talk about your movie. 690 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: I am so thrilled because my pick for our theme, 691 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: The Summer of eighth Grade Movies You watched on repeat 692 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: as Kids, was released in nineteen eighty eight. The screenplays 693 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: by Jari Fees, Larry Ketron, and Alice Little. The director 694 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: is Marissa Silver. My movie is permanent record. 695 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: See I don't know. 696 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna give you the one sentence and we'll 697 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about who made the movie, and 698 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: then we'll talk about the movie itself. So my one 699 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: sentence synopsis. A group of high school teenagers are left 700 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: with the aftermath of an accident that turns out to 701 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: be a suicide. Perfect Now, first and foremost, I would 702 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: be remiss if I did not mention that the person 703 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: who did the music for this movie was Joe fucking Strummer. 704 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that from. 705 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: The clash, and you can tell because there's a little 706 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: bit like from the minute it starts, it's kind of 707 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: like a plinky it. It gives a vibe. There's a 708 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: real vibe to this movie from the beginning that is 709 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: heavily influenced by the music and the musical choices, and 710 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: at least two of the main characters are musicians in film. 711 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: Also is that there is Joe Strummer. The reason why 712 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: lou Reid is in the movie. 713 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: I believe. So, Okay, Yeah, there's a lou Reid cameo 714 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: that comes out of fucking nowhere, and it has to 715 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: be because Joe Strummer did the music. 716 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: Man like like, let me just. 717 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 3: Call it my homide. Yeah, let me call it my homide. 718 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: And it's a cool scene and it's a cool, weird 719 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: moment in time. Well because again at twelve years old, 720 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: not knowing who lou Reid was. 721 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not even. 722 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: Going a front that, like, I'm so cool. I knew 723 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: who the Clash was, of course, but I did not 724 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: know who lou Reid was. But I fucking found out 725 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: after I watched this movie. 726 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: Of course. 727 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: Yes, like that's how I felt about the Smiths when 728 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I watched The Kids in the Hall. 729 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, absolutely, So the movie is, as I said, 730 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 3: very impactful to me. I think this was probably I 731 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: was really thinking about this a lot this week and 732 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 3: even talked about it with my therapist because I think 733 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: that and I know I've talked about this on the 734 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 3: show before. But it's gonna get dark for a minute. 735 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: I was a deeply suicidal person for most of my life, 736 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: I would say up until the last ten years or so. 737 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: And it started when I was a little kid, so 738 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: on the heels of having been sexually abused and abandoned 739 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: by my mother. Of course, I had some shit going 740 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: on that I could not express to anyone until I 741 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: was like sixteen, Like I had no way to talk 742 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 3: about it, so I internalized a lot of my feelings, 743 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: could not talk to anyone about it. It's the worst 744 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 3: feeling in the world, feeling depressed and not understanding what 745 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: depression is. So I was a fucked up little kid, 746 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 3: like I was emotionally fucked as a little kid. And 747 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: this was probably the first movie where I felt like 748 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 3: people around my age or people that felt accessible to 749 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: me were talking about something that I was just starting 750 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: to understand. So that's part of the reason why I 751 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: feel like like I have imprinted on this film in 752 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 3: a big way, a film that, again not a lot 753 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: of people have seen, didn't really have a lot of fanfare. 754 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: It's because it really was the first time that I 755 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: was starting to figure out my own feelings. Yeah, and like, 756 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 3: oh what I'm seeing in this character. Maybe not in 757 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: the same exact way or for the same exact reasons, 758 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: but that is what I feel every day of my life, 759 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 3: like I just want to not be here anymore. Wow, 760 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: Like life is too much, it's too intense. I just 761 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: can't do it anymore. So that's a huge reason why 762 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: this movie has been so important to me, which I 763 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: did not even figure out until now, like as I 764 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 3: was rewatching it, like why is this movie so important 765 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: to me? That's why. And I think there's also something 766 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: to be said for how proud I am of having 767 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: put so much energy and time into figuring that part 768 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 3: of myself out so that I don't feel that way anymore. 769 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 3: That I feel sad, I feel low, I have moments, 770 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: but I don't feel instantly like well, when I feel bad, 771 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: I want to die, Like I have not felt that 772 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: feeling in a long time, and it's come on the 773 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 3: heels of a tremendous amount of therapeutic work, a tremendous amount. 774 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 3: But I was just saying this to my therapist the 775 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: other day that I actually feel like I have tools 776 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: now to address this and I feel happy more than 777 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 3: I don't. And it's kind of again like a remarkable 778 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: thing to look at this movie and think if I 779 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: had ended my life when I thought all those times 780 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 3: I thought I wanted to end my life, I would 781 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 3: not have met most of the people that are super 782 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: important to me right now. Like to think that there's 783 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: a point I will try not to cry while I 784 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: say this, but there's a point where I think that, like, 785 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: if I had killed myself when I wanted to kill myself, 786 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 3: I would not have met you. I would not have 787 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 3: met Sarah, I would not have met Marlena Maggie, like 788 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 3: all these people who are so fucking important to me 789 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: beyond my career beyond my house, beyond my actual life, 790 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: when I think about how important it is for me 791 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: to have people who actually care, because if I had 792 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: killed myself back then, I would have died not knowing 793 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: that like love existed, Yeah, like real true love. 794 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 4: Exists, and people love me and I love them, And 795 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 4: that just breaks my heart because I know people are 796 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 4: going through that right now, and I know it doesn't 797 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: get better for everybody, but it really fucking did for me. Yeah, 798 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: And so I look at this movie and I'm like, God, 799 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 4: like that was such a fucked up time for me 800 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: that I got through, and that I was able to 801 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 4: kind of find love and joy and pleasure and happiness 802 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 4: in a way that I genuinely could never have imagined 803 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 4: back then. 804 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm sorry that I'm crying, But that's the 805 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: kind of shit that makes me simultaneously sad but also 806 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 3: incredibly proud that I don't think we get to acknowledge 807 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 3: on a regular basis. If you're a depressive person, you 808 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 3: don't get to acknowledge these big moments. But that is 809 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 3: a huge moment for me to sin and watch this 810 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 3: movie and then go and talk to my therapists and 811 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 3: be like, holy shit, like, if I had done what 812 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to do back then, I would have missed everything. 813 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: I would have missed out on my actual life because 814 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: my life at that point was not my actual life. 815 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't the sum of who I was going to be, 816 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 3: even though I felt like it was. So I know, 817 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about a dumb movie from nineteen eighty eight. 818 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: But if you do feel this way, if you're a 819 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 3: person who struggles with this, I am not in a 820 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: position to give copious amounts of advice to people except 821 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 3: go to therapy, which is not helpful to a lot 822 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 3: of people. But I truly mean it. Find the right 823 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 3: therapist for you. But I do think that is something 824 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 3: that maybe you can keep in mind when you feel that, 825 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: is that you're the whole of your life has not 826 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: happened yet, and you don't you can't even imagine what 827 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: it could be like, for better and for worse if 828 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: you take an action right now that it's so defining. 829 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: Right, I think it speaks to the power of art 830 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: and like how much you needed that and still need it. 831 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that is like the one thing like fucking 832 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: distill all this bullshit, all this content and all this 833 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: like bullshit. At the core, art saves people's lives basically 834 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: and helps people get through there the tough times. And 835 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: as much as that term has been has been just 836 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: so blown out and fucked up over the years. Like 837 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: at the core of it, like when something impacts you 838 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: enough to where it saves your life, I mean, it's important. 839 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: It's an important thing to remember. I mean, like, and 840 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: also I want to say this to you too. You 841 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: put art in this world, you put your thoughts, and 842 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: you put creative work in this world, and you might 843 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: be helping somebody in the same way that this movie 844 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: helped you. So don't forget that ever. 845 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. That is you know something I 846 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: do forget on a regular basis. 847 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: It's true. 848 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: It's so true. I mean, I know people who you've affected. 849 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean they write to us all the time. I mean, 850 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: we get it, you know, I just but honestly, like, 851 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing all that. I mean, this is 852 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: like I again, like the reason why I think we 853 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: do this podcast and the well and the ways in 854 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: which it's different from a lot of other film podcast 855 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: is because this is what we want to drill down into, 856 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: is the ways that movies affect us in like more 857 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: profound ways. 858 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: Yes, because you're not just somebody. You're not just a vessel, Like, 859 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: you're not just something that things are just happening to 860 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: when you're watching movies. They should be affecting you for 861 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 3: better or for worse. You know, they should be part 862 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 3: of laying like the mapping of your brain and the 863 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 3: groundwork of your personality and the things that you think 864 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: about and the things that you are gravitating towards that 865 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 3: actually impact your life. That is what participating in art does. 866 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I actually this is like I'm feeling like 867 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: a lot of emotions right now because it's like I've 868 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: never seen this movie before, and the idea that this 869 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: is the first time watching me and knowing how literally 870 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: crucial it was for you just makes me feel like 871 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: I know you more now. And that's just nice to know, 872 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: Like it's just this as a friend you just or 873 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: if any time you were able to like get closer 874 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: to somebody in some way. 875 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 2: It just feels good. So I'm I'm. 876 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: Honored to be here, is what I what I ultimately 877 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: want to say, And thank you and and I'm proud 878 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: of you and I'm glad you're here. 879 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I mean again, imagine a world 880 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 3: where we didn't get to talk. I would I know, like, no, 881 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 3: this is too important to me. You're too important to me. Absolutely, 882 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 3: but thank you, thank you very much. Yeah and yeah. 883 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: So this movie right off the bat, deeply impactful. As 884 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 3: I've said several times already, but I mean it. And 885 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: the reason is that so this this, this is a 886 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 3: movie that focuses. It kind of has a strange there's 887 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 3: strange movements in this movie because it's essentially about two people. 888 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 3: But then it becomes it switches focus. So when you 889 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 3: first are watching it's kind of a buddy movie. It's 890 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: about Chris and David. There are these highs seniors who 891 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 3: are best friends who make music together, and Chris is 892 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 3: played by Yea boy Keanu Reeves Lovey and David is 893 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: played by Alan Boyce, who, let me tell you, as 894 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 3: we were talking about the impact of this movie on 895 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: my life, my high school crush looked exactly like him, 896 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 3: and I think I had a crush on him because 897 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 3: he looked exactly like him. Alan Boyce has disappeared from 898 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: public eye as of nineteen ninety seven. I don't know 899 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: a thing about him. I don't know where he is. 900 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 3: I just want to tell you that this was, in 901 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight the hottest dude I'd ever seen in 902 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 3: my life. 903 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: This is the hottest dudent I've ever seen in twenty 904 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: twenty four. I am deeply in love with both these 905 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: boys in this movie. I'm like, I mean, Keanu's a given, 906 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: let's get serious. We're on record for that. But who 907 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: is this guy? And then yeah, I googled him because 908 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: I had to, and then I was like, oh, he's 909 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: been in the Gregor Rocky movies. But you're right, he 910 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been in movies, and like you know a. 911 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: Lot thirty years, thirty years, and not only hasn't been 912 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 3: in movies, have no idea where he is, what he's doing. 913 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 3: There's no Wikipedia page, there is nothing, which is admirable 914 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: and also makes me feel psychotic because now that is 915 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,479 Speaker 3: all I want to. 916 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: Know, like quite honestly, Like you know how you hear 917 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: those stories of like women who have found who find 918 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 1: like Jake Ryan from sixteen Candles, the guy Michael Shoffling, 919 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: you know the guy that like he there's like a 920 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: whole there's like a whole mythology around him because he 921 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: similarly kind of like walked away from the business and 922 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: everyone was like, he was my destiny, he was my 923 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: dream crush. We have to go track him down in 924 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: whatever furniture store he's working in now whatever. 925 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 2: I felt this moment of I was like, we got 926 00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: to five Alan. 927 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be found. I think that's very obvious. 928 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: But I was like, where is he? 929 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: What is he doing? Oh my god, he is so dreamy. 930 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: He's so dreamy in this movie. 931 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 3: I do not care about the like, let's find Richard 932 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 3: Simmons podcast. This is what true crime should be focusing on. 933 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 3: I want every mystery podcast anyone who's ever like helped 934 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 3: capture a killer, put your fucking energy towards finding Alan. Boys. 935 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 3: Don't bother him, but just find him for me. Send 936 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 3: me an email. I just want to know that he's okay. 937 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know the email address by now, folks, right. 938 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 3: But he was like. 939 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: This is a Jake Ryan type of person. For me, 940 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: I was like, absolutely, he like he's so cute, like 941 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: when he's interacting with the little brother, Oh my god, 942 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: and he's in a band and he's thoughtful and his 943 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: eyes and his hair and his champion did you see, 944 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: he's like a little Champions sweatshirt with the ripped up hoodie. 945 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: I was like, because this is the truth, this is 946 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 3: this is the true mark of hell. Is that the 947 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 3: hot person who does not know they're hot, Because you 948 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 3: know how I feel about hot people. The hot person 949 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 3: that does not know they are hot is a different 950 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 3: fucking level. Oh my god, Like, just out here making 951 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 3: your music, doing your art, not aware that people are 952 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 3: genuinely swooning around you. 953 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: I can't like. I was rocked by this time. And 954 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: I just have you to thank I have you to 955 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: thank for this. 956 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 3: I am so glad that you feel the way that 957 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 3: I have felt since nineteen eighty eight. 958 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 2: What a dream boy? 959 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 3: Like? Just what even tell you? I mean, a true standard. 960 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 3: If I look at the scope of my romantic life, 961 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, it's David Sinclair over and over again, 962 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: it's me trying to date David Sinclair for thirty five 963 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: fucking years. 964 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: Well, if we're on TikTok and doing memes of him, now. 965 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: Okay, someone has the skills to figure this out. Again, 966 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: do not bother the man. Please please approach with caution 967 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: any information that you find. But if you are able 968 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 3: to say, he's all right, you're doing the lord's work 969 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: as so far as I'm concerned. Imagine him now gray 970 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 3: hair hot, please please. 971 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: I mean, remember the time that dB Sweety emailed us, how. 972 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: Can I forget you mentioned a crush to these listeners 973 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 3: and they're like boom, here's a social Security number and 974 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 3: you're like, god damn. 975 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,720 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Dbi's at our inbox. Absolutely flipped 976 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: the fuck out. So if that, if this happens for you, Daniel, 977 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: I would sing, I would. 978 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 3: Sing, I would walk off a cliff. I'm kidding. I 979 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 3: wouldn't because that's what David does in the movie. Yes, 980 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 3: So this movie is basically in the beginning, it's like, 981 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 3: David is your main dude. He and Chris are making music, 982 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 3: and Chris I love this version of Keanu, which is 983 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 3: this Chris is a character that is more fun and 984 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 3: reckless than David. He's definitely giving Ted Theodore Logan vibes. 985 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: This movie came out in eighty eight, Yeah, Bill A. 986 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: Ted's Excellent Adventure came out in eighty nine, and they 987 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 3: are the same character in different in different locations. Yeah, 988 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 3: and Chris is like, again, let's break into a recording 989 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 3: studio just so we can watch Loureid for a minute 990 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 3: and then we can go to school. Chris is like 991 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 3: super naturally talented with music, but he's not focused. He's 992 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 3: mostly in a band to drink. He does have a girlfriend, MG, 993 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 3: who we will get into and she tries to have 994 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 3: a serious conversation with him, and his response is you 995 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 3: exude sex. So he's just like this dumb high school 996 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 3: dude who's like living his best life, doing exactly what 997 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 3: most people should or could be doing when they're at 998 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 3: that age. I didn't because I was a broken person 999 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 3: who wanted to be forty when I was eighteen. But 1000 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 3: you know, he's having fun, he's drinking beers, he's got 1001 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 3: his friends, he's got his music, he's got his girl. 1002 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 3: He's all set. David, on the other hand, is a 1003 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 3: little bit more for your brooding character. So David is 1004 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 3: an incredibly talented musician, can play multiple instruments, can read 1005 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 3: and arrange music. He's trying to teach Chris how to 1006 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 3: read music actually, and at the beginning of the film, 1007 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,760 Speaker 3: we find that David has gotten into Atkinson School of Music, 1008 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 3: which is kind of the paramount of schools and he 1009 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 3: was excited, you know, he was. This is the top 1010 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 3: it's like the Berkeley School of Music in the film 1011 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: world in this film, I should say, But he's not 1012 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 3: excited about it. And so the principal, who is fantastic 1013 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: principal Verdell, is like, Yo, why are you not psyched 1014 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: about this? You've been working for this for a while. 1015 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 3: And this is when you start to see that David 1016 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 3: is overwhelmed, and he keeps talking about how he can't 1017 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 3: do this right now, and the principle has to remind him, like, oh, 1018 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 3: you're not going to school for another year, Like you 1019 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 3: don't have to do this right now. It's next year. 1020 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 3: But he starts talking kind of rambling about how he's overwhelmed. 1021 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: He's got all this homework he has to do. He's 1022 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 3: in a band, he's doing the music and the arrangement 1023 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 3: for the senior musical production of Pinafore. He's got college, 1024 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 3: he's thinking about his future, and the band that he's 1025 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 3: in with Chris also gets studio time and they're paying 1026 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 3: for studio time for a song that David hasn't finished 1027 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 3: writing yet. So it's just another stress point. And the 1028 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 3: more that we kind of see him in his life. 1029 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 3: We realize how much stress he's under, and a lot 1030 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 3: of it is not stress that he's putting upon himself, 1031 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: but some of it is. Cause you get to see 1032 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 3: these moments where he's trying to get out of it, 1033 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: Like he says to Chris, why don't you write the song? 1034 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 3: And Chris is like, no way, man, and David's like, well, fuck, 1035 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 3: Like if somebody, if he knew how to ask for 1036 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 3: help or he knew how to express himself, you get 1037 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 3: the feeling that he could have alleviated some of the pressure. 1038 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 3: But he doesn't have that, and honestly, that wasn't available 1039 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 3: to us back then, even the knowledge of that. Also, 1040 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 3: the rest of their band is like forty five years old. 1041 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 3: Somebody could have stepped in and like, written this fucking song. 1042 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: The rest of that band looks like Jeane loves Jezebel 1043 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: or some shit. I's like, who are these fucking older dudes. 1044 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 3: It's like Morris Day in the time are up there 1045 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 3: with them, Like, yo, you all have like mortgages, you 1046 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 3: can't write this song. You can take some pressure off 1047 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 3: this eighteen year old kid. Yeah, And he also has 1048 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 3: this little brother, Nick, who he just loves and Nick 1049 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 3: is much younger, like there's a big age gap between them, 1050 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 3: but he just kind of there's this moment where they're 1051 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 3: playing in Nick's room and it used to be his 1052 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 3: childhood bedroom, and he's kind of talking about how he 1053 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 3: misses a moment where he could just be unstressed, and 1054 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 3: it's just so tender and sweet. And he's also boning 1055 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: a woman named Kim, a high school girl named Kim, 1056 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 3: and they have a very casual relationship. You can tell 1057 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 3: she wants a little bit more from him, so he 1058 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 3: starts to feel this pressure that she's also putting on him. 1059 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 3: At one point got teenage relationships. She's like, you know 1060 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 3: why this is great. This is a great arrangement because 1061 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 3: we don't ask any questions. And I'm like, yep, sometimes 1062 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 3: when you're a kid, that's all you need. You're like, 1063 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 3: we're doing this thing. I'm happy, goodbye. 1064 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1065 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 3: But then she does start to ask some questions and 1066 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 3: she does start to kind of want more from him, 1067 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 3: even when am I going to see you again? Becomes 1068 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 3: a stress point for him. 1069 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1070 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 3: So again we're in We're there's a lot swirling around 1071 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 3: in this world that these kids are inhabiting. The least 1072 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 3: of which is again this musical for Pinafore, and the 1073 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 3: tryouts are fucking wild for this fucking musical. But mister 1074 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 3: McBain is the music teacher, and he's also kind of like, yeah, David, 1075 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 3: like David, you can do this. He's just it's a 1076 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 3: way that adults have where they think they're imbuing you 1077 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: with a sense of responsibility, but they're actually adding more 1078 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 3: shit to your plate than you can handle. So it's 1079 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 3: hard to see. And then you know again, like you've 1080 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 3: got this these friends swirling around them. Kim, who's this 1081 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: kind of tough girl, MG is totally weird, like she like, 1082 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 3: bring vegetables to a high school party, kind of strange, 1083 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 3: and I appreciated that. I appreciate her so much. 1084 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 2: It's a crude or whatever. Don't shut on it. I 1085 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 2: know you want, but come on, yeah, es. 1086 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: To pizza, but you're getting beats, beats. That was MG 1087 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 3: played by Michelle may Rank amazing, Kim played by Pamela 1088 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 3: Gidley amazing. And then you also have Lauren, who's kind 1089 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 3: of the most talented singer in their group of friends. 1090 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 3: And just like these these people who all swirl around them, 1091 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 3: but who also really respect David, So he has a 1092 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 3: respect from his friends that he can't see or access 1093 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 3: because he's in his head. And then you see him 1094 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 3: talking to his mom at one point he kind of 1095 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 3: like there's a moment where you feel like he's about 1096 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 3: to say something, and then he doesn't. He just kind 1097 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 3: of dances with her and tries to be in the moment, 1098 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 3: but he's just so weighed down. He's just weighed down 1099 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 3: by life. And part of it is that he's such 1100 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 3: an overachiever and he's able to achieve so much that 1101 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 3: he's just not able to say no and pump the 1102 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 3: brakes when he needs to. He has no balance in 1103 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 3: his life, so that he goes to this party at Chris's. 1104 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 3: It's kind of wild because you can see that he's 1105 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 3: just not able to be relaxed like the kids around him. 1106 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 3: And then he goes for a walk by himself at 1107 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 3: this place called the Rock where all the kids hang out, 1108 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 3: and it's kind of this. You know, Cliff walk overlooking 1109 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 3: the ocean, and Chris kind of follows him out there 1110 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 3: and decides to surprise David. So he hides behind a 1111 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 3: rock and he kind of pops a beer. But when 1112 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 3: he pops up. David is gone, so Chris knows that 1113 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 3: he's gone over the edge and he's at first again 1114 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 3: you're seeing all of these kids dealing with the death, 1115 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 3: the accident that he fell off this cliff. A fence 1116 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 3: is constructed immediately because bureaucracy never stops. But then you 1117 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 3: see Chris and mj on an even higher cliff watching 1118 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 3: them put the fence up, and I'm like, y'all ain't 1119 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 3: doing Also, if you're determined to die, you gon't die. Like, sorry, 1120 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 3: this ain't shopping shit. But the kids are trying to 1121 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 3: figure out, you know, whether they want to do their 1122 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 3: own memorial service. They felt like the actual service was 1123 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 3: too stuffy, And the premise of the movie hinges on 1124 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,439 Speaker 3: the fact that everyone thinks David fell that his death 1125 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 3: was an accident. But then Chris gets some mail from 1126 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 3: David and it's the song he was unable to finish 1127 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: with a note that makes it clear that he died 1128 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 3: by suicide. Wrecked me unbelievable moment. Yeah, And so then 1129 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 3: the movie, like I said, it kind of takes these 1130 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 3: strange movements. So now the movie is still about David, obviously, 1131 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 3: but it's very much about Chris because he is now 1132 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 3: carr At first, he's carrying this knowledge of the suicide alone. 1133 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 3: His best friend committed suicide and he has to carry 1134 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,439 Speaker 3: that on his own. And then he starts to tell 1135 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 3: people what actually happened, and the two moments that just 1136 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 3: freak just beautiful freak me out the most. He has 1137 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 3: to tell David's parents that David died by suicide, and 1138 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 3: when he tells them, he says, you know, because they're 1139 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 3: kind of questioning, like, well, it could have still been 1140 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 3: an accident, and he says, he didn't scream, he did 1141 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 3: not make a sound when he went over the edge, 1142 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 3: and his mom gets up and leaves. She's like ruined 1143 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 3: by this fact. But imagine being a teenager who has 1144 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 3: to convey to someone's parents this knowledge. And then he 1145 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 3: starts telling his friends, and then he starts kind of, 1146 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 3: you know, telling the he's talking to the principle about it, 1147 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 3: and he's acting out and he's having these real emotional 1148 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 3: swings because he cannot fathom what has happened the principle. 1149 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 3: At first, Principal Verdell is very in support of the 1150 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 3: kids having their own service, but then when the when 1151 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 3: the news comes out, that David died by suicide. The 1152 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 3: superintendent steps in and is like, now, we're not going 1153 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: to do a service. We don't need to like glorify 1154 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 3: this at all. And he has a hard time with that, 1155 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 3: And it's nice to see someone in that position of 1156 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 3: power having a hard time with that and kind of 1157 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 3: wanting the kids to be okay, knowing that they're not okay, 1158 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 3: wanting that he feels those sense of responsibility to these kids. 1159 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 3: But as the movie goes on, I'm not going to 1160 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 3: ruin the ending at all. Just know that there's a 1161 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 3: point at the end of the movie where I start 1162 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 3: crying and don't stop. Yeah, still to this day break 1163 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 3: into tears, do not stop. It is so emotional and beautiful. Yeah, 1164 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 3: And I mean there are like grown men like mister mcmay, 1165 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 3: like the principal and the music teacher. Everyone is crying. 1166 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 3: It's not in the film. 1167 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 2: I texted that too, you did, You're. 1168 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 3: Like not grown men cry Like wow, But it's like 1169 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 3: the emotion of this movie is comes in such waves 1170 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 3: and the realization of how people are dealing with the 1171 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 3: aftermath of this decision is incredible because usually movies or 1172 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 3: any kind of art that's about someone who died by suicide, 1173 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 3: focuses on the act, and I think that was also 1174 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 3: impactful for me to see as a kid, to see that, 1175 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 3: oh no, this actually affects other people. Like, right now, 1176 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 3: you're in your own head, you're thinking about only yourself, 1177 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 3: but look at what this does to the people. 1178 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 2: In your life. 1179 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 3: And there's another point where Chris is kind of talking 1180 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 3: to David's parents after if he gets kind of booted 1181 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 3: out of school for a minute and he's drinking a 1182 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 3: lot and he kind of has almost has a car accident, 1183 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 3: and he just breaks down in the arms of David's parents, 1184 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 3: and it feels such a sense of responsibility that he 1185 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 3: wasn't able to see the sadness in his friend, that 1186 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 3: he wasn't able to physically do anything that night when 1187 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 3: he jumped. It's just it's incredible. It's a simple it's 1188 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 3: a simple enough premise, and it's a quiet enough film, 1189 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 3: but there are moments like that that if you've experienced 1190 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 3: anything close to these level levels of emotions will just 1191 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 3: hit you like a ton of bricks. 1192 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1193 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 3: So I love this movie. Possibly watched it too young, 1194 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 3: like most of my life, but it really made a 1195 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 3: fucking difference to me, and I just think it's again 1196 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 3: there are moments of this movie that are still so 1197 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 3: beautiful to me. Yeah, and I just I love it. 1198 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 3: I absolutely love this movie. 1199 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Well thank you for bringing it, because, like I said, 1200 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: first time watch and was I mean, it was like amazing. 1201 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 2: Like I just was like, oh my god, this is 1202 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: such a gem. 1203 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Keanu in that scene of when he has the breakdown, 1204 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: I was like, he's great, Like, yeah, it's not hard 1205 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: for me to guess up Keanu reeves. I will love 1206 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: him for the rest of my life. But there was 1207 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: a moment where I was like, he is a great actor, 1208 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Like he you feel the sadness in him in that 1209 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: moment in a way that I don't think I've ever 1210 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: seen him feel like on screen. 1211 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 2: Well you know what I mean. 1212 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an amazing film for him as well. 1213 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that he. 1214 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Got a lot Like just reading some of the reviews 1215 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: and stuff, a lot of a lot of people praised 1216 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: him in this film for that. 1217 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he. 1218 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 3: Goes from this he goes from being this like party guy, 1219 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 3: no care in the world to this intensely introspective human being. 1220 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1221 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think we know that most 1222 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: people who are the party guy, if you just crack 1223 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 1: that open a little bit, there's something in there. 1224 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 2: A lot, probably a lot more than we ever think. 1225 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 3: If you have some time, just crack open a party guy. 1226 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 3: Have some therapists on standby, right, I mean. 1227 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, I I feel like sometimes I'm 1228 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: the party guy. Don't you crack me open? I'm like, oh, man, well, 1229 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: you're a very tender bitch. Bitch, I'm a tender bitch. 1230 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm so glad that you got to watch it. 1231 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 3: And I think that it is a connective point for 1232 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 3: you and I for sure for you to understand this 1233 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 3: part of me, but also that it is just a 1234 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 3: beautiful little movie. 1235 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1236 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Oh, and I maage everybody to watch it. I mean, 1237 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: it's available, go watch it. I mean it was like 1238 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: really great, like more than I thought, because I actually, 1239 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, speaking of Jim Jarmish, I 1240 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: think I might have confused it with permanent what's. 1241 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 3: The name, no, permanent midnight PERI vacation, permanent vacation, that's right. 1242 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was confusing it with permanent vacation. 1243 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, wow, what a discovery. And I'm and now, 1244 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: just knowing how personal it is for you makes it 1245 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: even better. Now it makes me wish I hadn't picked 1246 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 1: my movie. 1247 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 3: No, here's the thing that's weird. I'm so glad you 1248 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 3: picked your movie because your movie was equally packs fill 1249 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 3: in a very different way. I can quote your movie 1250 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 3: front to fucking back. I think this is what we're 1251 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 3: here for, is to give you the fucking balance people. 1252 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 2: There we go. 1253 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: It is quite a balance this week. But so my 1254 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: movie for the theme summer of eighth grade movies we 1255 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,439 Speaker 1: watched on repeat as kids is from nineteen ninety three. 1256 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 1257 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: It was written by Robbie Fox, directed by Thomas Schlami, 1258 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: and it's called so I Married an axe murderer? 1259 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 3: Have you heard of this case? Missus X? She murders 1260 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 3: her husband's on her hunting, and then she changes her 1261 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 3: identity and marries again. What I think I'm dating? 1262 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 5: Missus X? 1263 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 2: So I did? What are you gonna do about it? 1264 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 4: So? 1265 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 2: Ax murderer? One of it? 1266 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 3: It's the nineties. When you fucking want from me, it's 1267 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three? 1268 01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Or is it? So I married an axe murderer? 1269 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 3: Ah, get some coffee, let's it down. 1270 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: How would you handle that line read you're on set, 1271 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: You're you're in your chair, your writer's chair, and it's like, 1272 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: so I married an ax. 1273 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 2: Murderer or so I married an ex murderer. 1274 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the emotions of each are so different, and 1275 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I would lean so hard into the former because it's 1276 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 3: so defensive, and I'm like, who is this person? Why 1277 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 3: are they so defensive about it? Why are they not 1278 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 3: bothered by it? 1279 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 2: Yes? I love personally. That's my favorite, is like the 1280 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Betty Davis. 1281 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 3: Like, so I did my stomach hearts? 1282 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 2: What do you want? I killed the man I love. 1283 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 3: Ah. 1284 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Uh, I am not. 1285 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a lot shorter, probably because I 1286 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: think everybody's probably seen this movie. 1287 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go through the plot a bunch. 1288 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 1: I will say that, like, there's some interesting things that 1289 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: I found out about it though, and and a lot 1290 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of it came from I gotta we got a point 1291 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: to our girl, Maggie Sarota. 1292 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 3: You know it. 1293 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: She actually wrote essentially an oral history of so I 1294 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: married an ex urtterer. 1295 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 2: It was in Spin magazine Beautiful. 1296 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: It's called how so I Married an axe murterer? Wrecked 1297 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: One writer's vision lost several stars, bombed at the box 1298 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: office and became a classic. 1299 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 3: Anyway, so good, all of that is true. 1300 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: It is true, Go google it and like that's the 1301 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: thing is that she writes a lot about the kind 1302 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: of production history of the movie and you know about 1303 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: sort of the tension behind the scenes of. 1304 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 2: There was a lot of script rewrites. 1305 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: So you know, Mike Myers when he came on board, 1306 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, he had his you know, writers and the 1307 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 1: people he collaborates with to work on the script, and 1308 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: there was some kind of like tension there. The original 1309 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: vibe for the Charlie character, which is the Mike Myers character, 1310 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: was that he was supposed to be kind of this 1311 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: like Nebbish swish guy. And then you know, I think 1312 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: because of that, they were initially thinking that they wanted 1313 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 1: to like get someone like a Woody Allen or like 1314 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: a Gary Shandling or an Albert Brooks, which personally I 1315 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I would actually love to see Albert Brooks. And so 1316 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 1: I married an ex order. 1317 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 3: I think I could be holy shit, where is our funding? 1318 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 3: Go fund me? And I thought you did put at 1319 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 3: gmail dot com. We're making this movie. 1320 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I have this four one K. But anyway, So Maggie 1321 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 1: writes a lot about that stuff, and I just think 1322 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: it's really really interesting. So everybody go read it, please 1323 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: support our friends and the arts. 1324 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,479 Speaker 3: Yes, and she's just a fucking great writer. Yeah, she's a. 1325 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,959 Speaker 2: Fantastic writer for sure. 1326 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: So a one sentence synopsis if you haven't seen this movie. 1327 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 1: A commitment phobic poet living in San Francisco, California, finally 1328 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: meets the girl of his dreams, but becomes suspicious that 1329 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: she's actually. 1330 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 2: A cold blooded killer. 1331 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah he does. 1332 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's in the title. Okay, So I want 1333 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 2: to orient this film into my life. So ninety three. 1334 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 2: I actually think I was in eighth grade in ninety three. Okay, yeah, I. 1335 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: Think No, maybe I would maybe I was in ninth grade. 1336 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: I think I was in ninth grade, but would have 1337 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: been the summer in between. 1338 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 2: It was the summer in between. Yeah, so it is true. 1339 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: And if you think about the idea that my parents 1340 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: would have never have gone and seen this movie in 1341 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: the theater. We had to wait for the VHS, which 1342 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 1: probably took about a year. 1343 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 4: I was. 1344 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was probably in high school when this movie 1345 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 1: came out, or when I saw it. Anyway, because I 1346 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: did see it when it came out on VHS. So 1347 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Mike Myers at this time, I think we all know 1348 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,759 Speaker 1: he had just done Wayne's World. It was a juggernaut. 1349 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of Wayne's World. I dressed 1350 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: like Wade Campbell for literally like three halloweens. 1351 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 2: In a row. 1352 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, admittedly, it was an easy lift for me 1353 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 1: because I was like, I already have long black hair 1354 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 1: and I could wear a black T shirt. 1355 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,520 Speaker 2: So I fucking love it. 1356 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: It was really just convenience that I dressed like later 1357 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: for three years. But you know, I think we've gone 1358 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: on record about this. I was huge, huge SNL person 1359 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I watched every SNL adjacent 1360 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 1: film ever. I think my dad that's like his genre. 1361 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 1: My dad loves an SNL film even to this day, 1362 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: even since day. But yeah, and it was this is 1363 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: like a high era for those kind of like SNL 1364 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: actors and comics doing films both related to and unrelated 1365 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 1: to characters from SNL. Right, And the funny thing is 1366 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: that when this movie came out, you know, I was 1367 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: actually kind of surprised. I mean I was surprised at 1368 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: this age, I think because it didn't feel like it had. 1369 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 1: It was kind of quieter than ye way, I mean, 1370 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: certainly Wayne's world. It actually kind of seemed to me 1371 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: like out the gate that it was gonna be just 1372 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: kind of this like cable movie and it wasn't going 1373 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: to be like this you know, opening weekend rom com thing, 1374 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: which is interesting and I'm sure and I think Maggie 1375 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: actually goes into the reasons for that in her article, 1376 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: so you know, check it out. But the one thing 1377 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: that I did really appreciate about it when I saw 1378 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: this movie is that this was like the first time 1379 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: that I really kind of seen Mike Myers as like 1380 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 1: a normal guy. 1381 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, like not, He's definitely like, you know, he has 1382 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 3: a cadence that is hilarious, yes, but he's not dressed 1383 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 3: as or affecting a personality or a look that's in character. 1384 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the like in makeup and wigs and doing 1385 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: his whole shick. He's he kind of looked like some 1386 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,640 Speaker 1: like this like maybe this is who he is. Like 1387 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: he's got you know, kind of like a little uh 1388 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: shoegaze hair cut, little Swoopy Doopy and little Dorothy hammil Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1389 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: and he's wearing normal clothes. 1390 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. 1391 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: And then because this is ninety three, I mean the 1392 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: reason why this movie impacted me so much. And I 1393 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 1: hate to admit this because it's so embarrassing, but like, 1394 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and in ninety three, I was all the way in 1395 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: with like beat poets and coffee house culture. 1396 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 3: You do not have to tell me twice someone, No, 1397 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,560 Speaker 3: I don't actually went to the fucking New yor a 1398 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 3: Reekan cafe. Yeah, in high school, skip school to go 1399 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 3: watch poetry, I know. 1400 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 2: And like this is like something that I really wanted 1401 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 2: to talk about because. 1402 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Like this is this this coffee house culture thing is 1403 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,719 Speaker 1: one thing that I absolutely miss about the nineties, right, Yes, 1404 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: because I know there's been a lot of talk in 1405 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: recent years about this kind of disappearance of these like 1406 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: third spaces. 1407 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 2: Right. 1408 01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: So third space, if you don't know, is basically like 1409 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: the place that you go to that's not your home 1410 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: and it's not work. It's this like other place where 1411 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 1: people congregate and kind of hang out. And because modern 1412 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: culture is so insular and home and home bodied, right, 1413 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about how these third spaces 1414 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,680 Speaker 1: are kind of going away, right, And this is the 1415 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,480 Speaker 1: thing about. 1416 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,799 Speaker 2: The nineties and about coffee houses. 1417 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: That was really I mean, first of all, they were 1418 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: the place to be, like if you were like a 1419 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: semi smart or artistic or just into alternative music in 1420 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 1: the nineties, like this was where you. 1421 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 3: Hung out right, the main weirdo spaces. 1422 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 2: The main weirdo spaces apps. 1423 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,640 Speaker 3: And Millie had her feather pen and her notebook with 1424 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,640 Speaker 3: the big rose on it or the cross and she 1425 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 3: was there hustling, humbling out those writings. 1426 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 2: Wearing like a fucking beret, smoking clove cigarettes. Like yo, 1427 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 2: I was so. 1428 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 5: Dumb, Like I was just like, I'm this image of 1429 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 5: you is my favorite imagery because it is so sincere 1430 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 5: and so what all of us were doing when we 1431 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 5: were young weirdos. 1432 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I wanted to be it. 1433 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: I just I wanted to be that person that was 1434 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: basically like in these coffee shops. 1435 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 1436 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 2: In the movie, it's. 1437 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 3: Very fible goes West. We're looking at the same moon 1438 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 3: from Atlanta and New York. I think I love it 1439 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 3: so much because I'm like, oh my god, we totally 1440 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 3: would have been friends if we met back then. 1441 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 1: I know, we would be sitting around at like open 1442 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: mic nights, being like, what are you going to read tonight? 1443 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna read the poem about Kurt Cobain 1444 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: and the guys I like from high school. 1445 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 3: Like it's just so, I saw someone on a bus 1446 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 3: and I wrote a poem about when I thought her 1447 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 3: life was because I'm deep that way, I'm very deep. 1448 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 1449 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,919 Speaker 1: And then the other poems were about you know, basically 1450 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I blame society. 1451 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 3: Like you know, angry, like proto revolutionary crush. These were 1452 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 3: the poems that we were writing back then. I'll give 1453 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 3: you the three categories, proto revolutionary, deeply introspective crushes. That's it. 1454 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: That's it love, love in politics, just like Billy Bragg 1455 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 1: writes about, like it's just the thing where you're like, 1456 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I hate the world, I hate consumer culture, and I 1457 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 1: hate you know, my teachers. And then but I also 1458 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: am like obsessively in love with this guy from my 1459 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 1: high school who I've never talked to. 1460 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 3: I'm turning my speaker outside of my window to play 1461 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 3: jazz at my crush. Go back and listen to the 1462 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 3: earlier episodes if you have no idea what we're talking 1463 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 3: about exactly. 1464 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 1: But but the thing too, about this about the coffee 1465 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,640 Speaker 1: shop culture for me, I you know, this was like 1466 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't really get in the bars yet. I mean 1467 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: I was under age. Yeah, so this was crucial for 1468 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 1: high school kids to be in coffee shops. And that's 1469 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 1: the thing is that I was watching this movie again, 1470 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,799 Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I could not get over this notion 1471 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: of how coffee shops are just like running through the 1472 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: fiber of me at this point. And I gotta say, 1473 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I do not think that I have I have ever 1474 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 1: felt as connected to like a physical space as I 1475 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: do a coffee shop, like even to this day, but 1476 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 1: especially back then. 1477 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:26,759 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely true. 1478 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 2: So anyway, that's my that's my poem about coffee shops. 1479 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 3: That's my beat poem. 1480 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 1: That's my beat poem about writing poems. 1481 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 2: In nineties, coffee shops but. 1482 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 3: Especially like San Francisco had a real resurgence pre tech 1483 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 3: bro and it was this like I remember in the 1484 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 3: nineties because my aunt lived in San Francisco, and I 1485 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,680 Speaker 3: remember in the nineties being so and I went to 1486 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 3: visit her and I was so fucking enamored of like 1487 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 3: the sixties and the beat poetry, and of course we 1488 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 3: were reappropriating something that had happened along time ago, but 1489 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 3: it had a real resurgence, and I think San Francisco 1490 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,480 Speaker 3: is kind of the epicenter of a lot of cultural 1491 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 3: life for that reason. 1492 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Back then, absolutely, yeah, that was like ground zero for 1493 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 1: what I perceived to be like kind of this bohemian 1494 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 1: alternative culture, like. 1495 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 3: Oh, Tales from the City, like all everything that. I 1496 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 3: was ravenous about finding anything I could out about San 1497 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 3: Francisco and pop culturally. 1498 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the first time I went 1499 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 1: to San Francisco was like ninety I think I went 1500 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 1: there in like ninety eight. And the first thing I 1501 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: did I asked my friend Heather. I was like, can 1502 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 1: we go to City Lights co go to the bookshop? 1503 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 1: Because I was like, I'm sorry, I'm a nerd and 1504 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: I just have been wanting to go to this place forever, 1505 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I mean, let. 1506 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 3: Me walk the halls that Ferlengetti walked. 1507 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:55,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god. We were such fucking nerd. God, 1508 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,680 Speaker 2: such fucking nerds. 1509 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm on vacation, What do you want to do? Bookstore? 1510 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 3: Immediately still to this day, Yeah, I'm on vacation. What 1511 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 3: am I doing? Give me a bookstore? Even if I'm 1512 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 3: in the middle of the fucking Caribbean. 1513 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: Listen, I don't care if you're like, we're skydiving in Peru. 1514 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, where is the historical bookstore? And a store 1515 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: that sells kitchen utensils? 1516 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 3: Like I'm always. 1517 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: Going to kitchen stores. 1518 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: Like when I went to London, I was like, Yo, 1519 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,640 Speaker 1: we're let's go to this place that sells. 1520 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 2: Like ramikins and stay high. So I'm like, what the 1521 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 2: fuck is wrong with me? 1522 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 3: Any bitch? For my fiftieth birthday, I'm renting a house 1523 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 3: and We're going to Paris. Hell yeah, and I'm going 1524 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 3: to get a chef. And all i want to do 1525 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 3: is hang out in kitchen goods stores in France. That's 1526 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 3: all I'm i to do. 1527 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 1528 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 1: When I went to Paris like last year, I was 1529 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: literally like, take me to French pharmacies, like I just 1530 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: want to buy like French Like I want to buy 1531 01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 1: French makeup remover, and like my priorities are so fucked 1532 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: but anyway, this is my joy. So just having said that, Okay, 1533 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 1: so back to this film that changed my life. Okay, 1534 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 1: So obviously Mike Myers is the star. He plays this 1535 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 1: character named Charlie McKenzie, and I always had this thought. 1536 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I think I might have talked about this when we 1537 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 1: briefly brought up this movie like a long time ago 1538 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: on a bonus episode. I think Charlie McKenzie is somehow 1539 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: living in San Francisco alone in a gorgeous place, working 1540 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 1: as a fake beat poet in a coffee shop. 1541 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,640 Speaker 3: I mean, capitalism in the nineties was something else, and 1542 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 3: they had us believe in this shit. They had us 1543 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 3: believe in this shit. 1544 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I know. 1545 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: I was like, he'd better be writing for the fucking 1546 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: New Yorker on the side or some shit, like how 1547 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: how does he afford this lifestyle? And he drives like 1548 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,600 Speaker 1: a Carmen Gia, like some kind of souped up like 1549 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 1: nice like vintage car. 1550 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is his job? 1551 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 3: They lied to us. I believe so hard that I 1552 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 3: could be a fucking poet at one cafe and have 1553 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 3: that life. I'm like, I can do that. That's of course, 1554 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 3: I can have a loft in New York City based 1555 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 3: on my poetry. Of course. 1556 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh, such a point of contention in this movie for me. 1557 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 2: But whatever. 1558 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: So Charlie's bestie is this San Franciscan cop played by 1559 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:36,639 Speaker 1: Anthony LaPaglia, who has that hot nineties guy hair that's 1560 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 1: kind of like dark tuck behind the ears. 1561 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 3: He is fucking adorable and one of the highlights of 1562 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 3: this movie to me then and now, but especially now. 1563 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:53,679 Speaker 3: When you watch this movie, pay attention to how often 1564 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 3: he breaks. He cannot stop laughing. Yeah, and it is 1565 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,519 Speaker 3: so fucking cute. 1566 01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1567 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,960 Speaker 1: I think that that's something that Maggie wrote about too. 1568 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 1: Is just you know, a lot of I'm sure Mike 1569 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,599 Speaker 1: Myers was doing a lot of improv and I. 1570 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Mean he just had to sit there and pretend not 1571 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 2: to laugh, which seems like an impossible task, but. 1572 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 3: He could not do it. He's so fucking funny and 1573 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 3: adorable this movie. 1574 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:22,639 Speaker 2: And also as an aside, so his character. He has 1575 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 2: his boss at. 1576 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 1: The PlayStation who was played by Alan Arkin, and Alan 1577 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Arkin is like the nicest guy in the world, and 1578 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Tony absolutely fucking hates it. He wants like Anthony Lapagley's character, 1579 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 1: whose name is Tony. 1580 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 2: He basically wants to be like the French Connection. 1581 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 1: He wants to be like, you know, running around town 1582 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:44,640 Speaker 1: like Navin drug. 1583 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Dealers, and he's not doing any of that. 1584 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 1: And one of the best things of this movie for me, honestly, 1585 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:56,480 Speaker 1: is that eventually the Alan Arkin character, his boss, understands 1586 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: that he's frustrated by the fact that he gets like 1587 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 1: no real seventies crime action, and then he surprises him 1588 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,560 Speaker 1: one day but basically cosplaying as this like tough seventies 1589 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 1: crime movie police chief, and it's like he just shows 1590 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 1: up one day with the sweaty white like button down 1591 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,679 Speaker 1: and the tie and loosened, and he's. 1592 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,519 Speaker 2: Like thrown up up against the wall and it's literally 1593 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 2: the sweetest thing of the world. 1594 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 3: To be that's been so great about it because he 1595 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 3: knows he is not this man. He is doing this 1596 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 3: to make his employee happy. Yes, he's the kind of 1597 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 3: guy who comes in and is like, how's your heart? 1598 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 3: How you doing? 1599 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 1: And it's like, why don't you have like a fucking 1600 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 1: roll of rolades on your desk? Stressed out like you're 1601 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be like a French connection. 1602 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 2: Boss, And but then he was like, okay, I will 1603 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 2: do that for you. 1604 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 1: Like what a great boss to like make his employee 1605 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:50,839 Speaker 1: that happy. 1606 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, very thoughtful, very thoughtful. 1607 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: The other thing about this movie that makes it a 1608 01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 1: total faith is the parents. Ugh, the Mackenzies Charlie's mom 1609 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: and dad. Charlie's dad is played by Mike Myers. It's 1610 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 1: obviously like a double roll and they use that like 1611 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: split screen technology apparently, which actually looked great. It looks seamlessly, 1612 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 1: it holds up, definitely holds up. So his parents are 1613 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: from Scotland, right. 1614 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 2: Charlie's dad is essentially a quan on guy. 1615 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:23,759 Speaker 3: He just sits. 1616 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 1: He just sits in his like burlap chair in front 1617 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 1: of the soccer game and he's just yelling the most 1618 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 1: insane conspiracy theory shit all night long. And you probably 1619 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,719 Speaker 1: know this, but like his character, the accents and stuff 1620 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,439 Speaker 1: is like the prototype for what would be Fat Bastard 1621 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 1: in the Austin Powers movies. Right, so just imagine that 1622 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the mom who is fucking fantastic Brenda Fricker. 1623 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:51,920 Speaker 2: Sane no more. 1624 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 1: She's this like weekly World News subscribing old Lady Hornball, 1625 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 1: just the way we like them. 1626 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 2: Her outfits, her outfits. 1627 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 1: Ah, she's like, so she's on the Weekly World News. 1628 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:15,680 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks juice diet, which is like a pinned to 1629 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 1: the front of the refrigerator. And then of course you 1630 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: have the little brother. Charlie's little brother who has the 1631 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: big head and we all know the joke. 1632 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,599 Speaker 2: Maggie interviewed that guy too, and he seems so awesome 1633 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:30,599 Speaker 2: by the way. 1634 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 3: He'd pay up now. 1635 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: The actor who played him seems like a totally awesome 1636 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 1: fun person, So I'm like very happy that she found him. 1637 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 1: But this is something that I also notice, Like, so 1638 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I noticed this was my own family, because you know, 1639 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,800 Speaker 1: both my parents are immigrants. The one thing that I 1640 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: fucking love about immigrants is that they had this like 1641 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 1: hilariously intense reverence for like the heroes of their homeland. Yes, 1642 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:06,520 Speaker 1: so Charlie's dad has a fucking wall of framed headshots 1643 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 1: from like Scottish celebrities. It's like Sean Connery, Sheena Easton, 1644 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 1: who I always forget is Scottish and they only play 1645 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,200 Speaker 1: the Bay City Rollers in the house. 1646 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 2: They sing Rod Stewart songs when they're drunk. 1647 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, this is like what I 1648 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 1: love about fucking immigrants so much is that they're just like, 1649 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 1: these are our heroes and we only celebrate and recognize them. 1650 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 2: No others in this house period. 1651 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 3: Right, Oh so good. 1652 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just that is like such a funny thing 1653 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 1: to me, So, you know, Charlie, Like again, like I 1654 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,400 Speaker 1: said in the one sentence, he's like commitment phobe, like 1655 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 1: he has, He's had a ton of girlfriends. He breaks 1656 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,080 Speaker 1: up with them for the most acidine reasons ever, including 1657 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 1: one just smells like soup, which I was actually thinking, yeah, 1658 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 1: that might be a dough breaker. 1659 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:55,559 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1660 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 3: When you have a lot of options and you have 1661 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 3: a lot of hope, you can break up with people 1662 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 3: for reasons like that. 1663 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he says one of the girls they 1664 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:09,200 Speaker 1: did was in the mafia, and I'm like, yeah, it happens. 1665 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,800 Speaker 3: My favorite was like the one who stole his cat, 1666 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:16,920 Speaker 3: she was a thief. 1667 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:17,879 Speaker 2: You gotta belief. 1668 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh good, the picture alone. 1669 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 2: I know. 1670 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 1: So essentially, you know his mom, he's supposed to bring 1671 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 1: his new girlfriend over the house very early in the movie. 1672 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 1: The mom's like, oh man, he broke up a cherry 1673 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,880 Speaker 1: come on, like I liked her. And then she's like, actually, 1674 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 1: it's probably good that you're not getting married because I 1675 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:42,719 Speaker 1: just saw this article in the paper about this murdering wife. 1676 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,639 Speaker 1: And the paper is, of course the Weekly World News, 1677 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: and it's basically like, here's this woman going around America 1678 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,519 Speaker 1: killing men, on their honeymoon and watch out for her 1679 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 1: because you're dating in these streets and who the hell knows. 1680 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 1: So this is in the back of Charlie's mind at 1681 01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,080 Speaker 1: some point, but at first he's like, yo, mom, totally nuts. 1682 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 1: But then eventually Charlie goes into a shop called Meats 1683 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 1: of the World and meets Harriet, who's the shop owner 1684 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,559 Speaker 1: played by Nancy Travis, who we talked about when we 1685 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 1: did Married to the Mob. And so they have this 1686 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 1: like little meat cute and he hangs out with her 1687 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 1: in the shop. There's this great scene of them kind 1688 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,680 Speaker 1: of goofing off together. My sister and I used to 1689 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,080 Speaker 1: rewind it all the time. 1690 01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 2: I lose my. 1691 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 3: Mind during that scene and so many When he throws 1692 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 3: the meat into the crowd. 1693 01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, he does this like you know, like the alien 1694 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: chest explosion scene. He does that, and it's like the 1695 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: meat flies across the room in this like little Japanese Grandma. 1696 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,280 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, what why is their raw meat flying 1697 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,599 Speaker 1: towards me? You know, it's so cute. And I used 1698 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 1: to rewind it because it was really goofy. 1699 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:53,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, so they hit it. 1700 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,120 Speaker 1: Charlie and Harriet hit it off immediately it's like, no, 1701 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 1: she's looking like the one. 1702 01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 2: And I did notice something this time. 1703 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: I always noticed that in all these Mike Myers movies 1704 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 1: that I've seen over the years, he really loves like 1705 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 1: this intimacy montage. Yeah, where they are just like couples 1706 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 1: lying around in bed together, like laughing and making jokes. 1707 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 1: That happens in you know, it happens in Wayne's world, 1708 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 1: even I mean it's kind of crazy. Also, not for nothing, 1709 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: he really loves any chance he can get to be 1710 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 1: in a pair of baggy white underwear. He does the 1711 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 1: depression underwear, the bulge void. 1712 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 2: Remember we talked about these underwear. Yes, I was like, yo, 1713 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 2: he's always in some tidy whities that are. 1714 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Sagging, sagging in the crotch. Why do we have these underwears? 1715 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 3: He knows they're a joke. He's trying to translate to y'all, 1716 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,519 Speaker 3: these underwear are a joke. 1717 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like his That's a calling card honestly 1718 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 1: in a lot of his movies. So, yeah, they go out. 1719 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 1: They spend the night together first night. Then the next 1720 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 1: morning he gets up meets Harriet's sister, who has played 1721 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 1: by a man of plumber and just another classic freak. 1722 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,000 Speaker 1: She's really good at playing those characters. She's fantastic. 1723 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 3: She is so funny and she looks so cute in 1724 01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 3: this movie when you first meet her. Oh my god, 1725 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 3: so and she's so funny. 1726 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 2: She's sketching. That's another thing too. 1727 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I want to live 1728 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,879 Speaker 1: in a fucking San Francisco style loft with the giant 1729 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,479 Speaker 1: poster and then sketch. 1730 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:26,719 Speaker 2: I want to just. 1731 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 1: Make art, you know what I mean, Like, the people 1732 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 1: of this movie are living in my adult fantasy. 1733 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 1734 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,240 Speaker 3: Completely? 1735 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, as Tibo's on, you know, it's this thing 1736 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,320 Speaker 1: where he's finding out more and more about Harriet, and 1737 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 1: it seems like it's sort of lighting up with the 1738 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 1: details in that old weekly World News article that his 1739 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 1: mom clipped for him. And at the same time you're like, oh, 1740 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,680 Speaker 1: but of course he's also the guy that breaks up 1741 01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 1: with women for ridiculous reasons. So is he scared or 1742 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 1: is this shit really starting to pop off? 1743 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,599 Speaker 2: Right? I Mean, there's like, you know, a lot of like. 1744 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,479 Speaker 1: Kind of sight gags and like little funny, you know, 1745 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 1: weird jokes, like the Ralph character that apparently, uh, the 1746 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 1: honeymoon murderer acts this guy named Ralph, and then Harriet 1747 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: just happens to have a friend named Ralph that she 1748 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 1: screams their name in the middle of the night. 1749 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,639 Speaker 2: Turns out it's a woman. 1750 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, a little a little flimsy of a joke, 1751 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 1: but I'll take it. And but you know, then as 1752 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,439 Speaker 1: the movie moves on, it becomes, you know, a little 1753 01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 1: bit more intense. 1754 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 2: I won't give it away obviously, you know, I do 1755 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:36,439 Speaker 2: think it's interesting. 1756 01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,599 Speaker 1: Maggie pointed out that when the screenplay was first being 1757 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,640 Speaker 1: kicked around, they actually envisioned this movie to be a 1758 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,680 Speaker 1: little bit more of a thriller than a comic. And 1759 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:50,760 Speaker 1: so in the original idea, I believe that Harriet actually 1760 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:51,839 Speaker 1: murdered someone. 1761 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,599 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so she was actually a murderer, not like someone. 1762 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe so yeah, And so I don't know. 1763 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,760 Speaker 1: I thought that was really fascinat But honestly, this film 1764 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,000 Speaker 1: is such a gem. I have to say this before 1765 01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:08,720 Speaker 1: we sign off. This film has the best cameos. Okay, Oh, 1766 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Steven Wright who plays that like narcoleptic pilot, So fucking funny. 1767 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,479 Speaker 3: Because Tony eventually gets to live out like his wish 1768 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,880 Speaker 3: list of cop things that he wishes he could do, 1769 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 3: but they goes, they all go so horribly wrong. 1770 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's never, it's never what he actually wants. 1771 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 2: It's the absolute opposite. 1772 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 1: Charles Groden, the goat we just talked about him, He's 1773 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:43,880 Speaker 1: in it perfect Charles Groden cameo and maybe the most 1774 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:50,000 Speaker 1: memorable Phil Hartman who plays this rest in Peace king. 1775 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Holy fucking shit. He plays this tour guide at Alcatraz 1776 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 1: name John Johnson, but of course everyone there calls him Vicky. 1777 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 1: And then the funniest part is that Anthony I think 1778 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: it's Anthony LaPaglia. He goes, gotta love Vicky. He's like that, Yeah, 1779 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:11,719 Speaker 1: like yo, Vicky's the best. 1780 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 3: Like they've done this tour so many times just to 1781 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:16,640 Speaker 3: get the Vicky experience. 1782 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you need the Vicky experience. 1783 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:25,720 Speaker 1: Walk He's like this liquid metal cop from Terminator two. 1784 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 2: It's just like real stiff. I couldn't go with anyone 1785 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 2: but Vicky at Alcatraz. What the fuck? 1786 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 3: If I show up at Alcatraz and Vicki's not there, 1787 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm getting back on the boat. 1788 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,280 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I don't know what Alcatraz I haven't. 1789 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 1: I've never actually been to Alcatraz, but if there's no 1790 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 1: Vicky tour in honor of Phil Hartman. 1791 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,440 Speaker 3: They're missing out on some dollars. 1792 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 2: You fucking I would go every year. 1793 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,439 Speaker 3: I also cannot tell you how much trouble I goten 1794 01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,240 Speaker 3: at school for the running joke that we pulled from 1795 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 3: this movie of pissing in someone's ocular cavities. 1796 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,599 Speaker 2: I absolutely love this movie. 1797 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 1: Like I said, it was really easy for me this 1798 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,840 Speaker 1: week to just kind of go over the general beats 1799 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:11,120 Speaker 1: of it. 1800 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody has seen it, but if you. 1801 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Haven't seen it, you've got to see it. It's so 1802 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,640 Speaker 1: funny and just it's up to time. It impacted me, 1803 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,280 Speaker 1: like I said, for several reasons. A it was like 1804 01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:28,200 Speaker 1: crystallizing my passion for any SNL film property or SNL 1805 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,599 Speaker 1: adjacent film property. 1806 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 2: But then the coffee house culture of it, all the. 1807 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 1: Cameos, the you know, the romance of it, which is 1808 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 1: actually can be really sweet at times. I mean there 1809 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:44,639 Speaker 1: are times where Nancy Travis is fantastic, like she's supposed 1810 01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 1: to be balancing this character of like you know, that's 1811 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,799 Speaker 1: like sweet and wonderful, but also maybe a little weird. 1812 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,599 Speaker 2: And intense and you don't know why. And I think 1813 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,160 Speaker 2: as an actor, she really pulled that off really well. 1814 01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 3: She absolutely does. Yeah, and it's just I think it 1815 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:03,800 Speaker 3: maybe it holds up for me just because I know 1816 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 3: the movie so well. I'd be interested to see if 1817 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,200 Speaker 3: somebody watches it for the first time if they find 1818 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 3: it as funny. But I think the jokes hold up 1819 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,639 Speaker 3: because it's just a lesson in absurdity. Like you can 1820 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 3: feel when things are being kind of ad libbed, you 1821 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,680 Speaker 3: can feel the humor, you can feel how much fun 1822 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:21,120 Speaker 3: everyone is having in the movie. Yeah, it's just so 1823 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 3: it's so fucking funny to me, just the premise, everything 1824 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,840 Speaker 3: about it makes me really laugh still. 1825 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even the big swing jokes like hello, even 1826 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,080 Speaker 1: that stuff, isn't that's endearing. That's very endearing to me 1827 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,879 Speaker 1: even today. So, oh my god, what a week, Danielle, 1828 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 1: What a week. 1829 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,320 Speaker 3: What a week. I'm so glad we do this. I'm 1830 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 3: so glad we did this episode specifically. And yeah, dig 1831 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 3: back into yourself, have some fun this summer, go back 1832 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,720 Speaker 3: to a movie you loved eighth grade and see you 1833 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:51,040 Speaker 3: see what you think? 1834 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, if you want to email us, we were 1835 01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,599 Speaker 1: at a sawhich you did pot atgmail dot com. 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Next week, your task is 1856 01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,799 Speaker 2: to watch Headwig and the Angry Inch from two thousand 1857 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,439 Speaker 2: and one and Beyond the Valley of the Doll from 1858 01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:01,639 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy. 1859 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,639 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Barn burner. 1860 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm calling it now. It's a barn burner calling it now, Dannielle. 1861 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,440 Speaker 1: That's always a fucking pleasure, truly a pleasure doing this podcast. 1862 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,000 Speaker 3: With you and love you. I'm so glad we're friends. 1863 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 3: I'm so glad we do this. 1864 01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:26,920 Speaker 1: Yay bye everybody. 1865 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Our senior producer 1866 01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 3: is Casey O'Brien. 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