Speaker 1: All right, we got a guy who put in a
Speaker 1: lot of effort in today's new episode, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Second Date Podcast. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning,
Speaker 1: and he did an entire theme date and it only
Speaker 1: took his date fifteen minutes to say I don't like this. Yep,
Speaker 1: And now he's on with that yep.
Speaker 2: After all that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear what happened here in just a second.
Speaker 1: But first we love to feature your comments.
Speaker 3: Yes, Alicia said, I'm listening from Canada. I listened to
Speaker 3: you guys while doing the dishes and shutting down the
Speaker 3: house for the night. I'm the house closer in the family,
Speaker 3: so I get the evening clean up shift and your
Speaker 3: podcast has me laughing the whole time.
Speaker 1: That is such a genius way to split up chores
Speaker 1: like yay.
Speaker 2: And night morning.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, who's the closer? Who's the openery? I love
Speaker 1: that good Canadians are smarter. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just
Speaker 1: got it down. Alright, Your brand new Second Date update
Speaker 1: starts right now.
Speaker 3: Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning Second Date Updates.
Speaker 4: What do you do when you book a date somewhere
Speaker 4: and the location for the date is off like things
Speaker 4: are good between you and your person but for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: whether it's the dive bar is too divy or the
Speaker 4: speak easy is too easy speaking. At that point, what
Speaker 4: do you do then?
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's when you see someone's personality really sucks.
Speaker 2: No, they're great, it's just the place is wrong.
Speaker 4: You can't That's what our listener, Aaron was faced with
Speaker 4: that exact dilemma, and he managed to make lemons out
Speaker 4: of lemon trees.
Speaker 5: None of the.
Speaker 2: Expression. So let's learn a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he did not go to the
Speaker 1: easy speak Okay.
Speaker 4: Well, well let's find out where he went. Aaron, Welcome
Speaker 4: to the show man.
Speaker 6: Hey, it's good to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Okay, welcome to the orchard. Yeah, where lemon trees grow thrived.
Speaker 4: So we would love to get into your date. First,
Speaker 4: tell us about this girl and how you met her.
Speaker 5: Okay, So her name is Elise. If I'm allowed to
Speaker 5: say that on the.
Speaker 4: Air, I hope.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 4: I can't believe you just came out with that.
Speaker 1: Is she in a witness protection program?
Speaker 6: Hopefully?
Speaker 5: I don't hear from her lawyer, but I met her
Speaker 5: online and her profile said that she liked to travel.
Speaker 1: To travel. Okay, oh, all right, something unique?
Speaker 7: Don't hear that?
Speaker 5: What I did was I took her on an airplane
Speaker 5: theme date.
Speaker 6: If you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean you boarded a plane and flew somewhere.
Speaker 1: Did you shed in line for a long time, holding
Speaker 1: lots of luggage and pretend like you're in TSA?
Speaker 5: No, in retrospect, flying somewhere exotic might have been cooler.
Speaker 6: But I took her to a restaurant close to the
Speaker 6: airport so.
Speaker 5: We could watch the plane, you know, take it off
Speaker 5: and land. It kind of romantic, right.
Speaker 4: Plane spotting.
Speaker 1: I think that's what a cute idea. It shows that
Speaker 1: you paid attention to what she liked and you tried
Speaker 1: to find a unique way to try it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she must have been surprised when you came up
Speaker 2: with that idea.
Speaker 5: She was surprised by it being as close to the
Speaker 5: airport as it was.
Speaker 6: I thought it was romantic.
Speaker 5: But the engines were so loud we ended up not
Speaker 5: even able to hear each other.
Speaker 4: Oh no, is that really important for a first date? Though?
Speaker 4: Was that you said?
Speaker 2: Every ten seconds?
Speaker 4: Another one? You have a brother, that's awful.
Speaker 5: So she asked why we're eating at the airport, and
Speaker 5: I'm kind of thinking to myself, do we do we
Speaker 5: get through this?
Speaker 6: Do we go our whole first day just yelling.
Speaker 5: At each other, or did we just get on out
Speaker 5: of there?
Speaker 6: So that's what we did.
Speaker 1: Oh you left? Okay, you guys, did you pivoted? And
Speaker 1: she was interested enough to go to a second location
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I did say sorry, it's because I
Speaker 5: thought you'd like to travel. But another restaurant, it was
Speaker 5: quieter and we kind of talked about ourselves a little
Speaker 5: bit more.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, it sounds like you had great conversation. Was
Speaker 1: there any weird points for you? Well?
Speaker 5: I think it was good for the most part. I
Speaker 5: told her a bit about my job on an escalator tech.
Speaker 5: She told me that she was a pairalegal, and I
Speaker 5: didn't even know what that meant. As a matter of fact.
Speaker 1: You can save that for your next date if we
Speaker 1: get it worked out for you.
Speaker 6: Okay, there you go, There you go.
Speaker 5: But you know, the conversation gotten deeper, family friends stuff.
Speaker 5: We're really interested in passion, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if anybody starts asking like deep questions
Speaker 4: about your family or the people that you spent a
Speaker 4: lot of time with. In my mind, that would be
Speaker 4: a really good sign. But I don't know, Alexis.
Speaker 2: For you, would that be a good.
Speaker 4: Conversation for you to have on a first date or
Speaker 4: are you trying to avoid You're just trying to tread water.
Speaker 1: That's bringing it down.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, just because you're like talking to
Speaker 3: someone about that doesn't mean you like them like them.
Speaker 1: You could just be interested in the conversation and.
Speaker 4: Like or off of that, you could just feel like
Speaker 4: this will get them to talk for ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about your family.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Were you getting a vibe from her either way?
Speaker 5: Well, I definitely got the impression that she was really
Speaker 5: trying to get a feel of who I am, which
Speaker 5: made me think that she was interested.
Speaker 2: She actually cared, Alexis.
Speaker 4: I mean, even though she's not calling you back now,
Speaker 4: at least for that part of the conversation.
Speaker 2: She was into it.
Speaker 1: How long ago was your date?
Speaker 5: It was about five days ago?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, that's like almost a week.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How did you to leave it that night?
Speaker 6: That's when it got awkward.
Speaker 5: Actually, as soon as they cleared the plates.
Speaker 6: At the end of dinner, waiter, did we ask if
Speaker 6: we want to dessert? She just said, we'll get to
Speaker 6: check when you get a second.
Speaker 4: Oh, your date asked for the check immediately before the
Speaker 4: waiter could even offer to bring the menus back. I
Speaker 4: see as a former server, that's kind of rude. A
Speaker 4: lot of times there's a whole spiel involved with the
Speaker 4: dessert menu.
Speaker 1: He's like, do you know how hard? I don't to
Speaker 1: memorize that, give me.
Speaker 4: My moment, but it sounds like maybe you got the
Speaker 4: feeling that she was done hanging out with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was ready to leave.
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly she paid for half of it. She insisted
Speaker 5: on paying for half of it, and there was no
Speaker 5: kiss or hugs.
Speaker 6: She just walked to her collar.
Speaker 2: Brook, Why did you say oof? Is that not a
Speaker 2: good sign?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's one thing if there's a discussion
Speaker 1: and you're like no, let me know. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like she just didn't want to feel in any way
Speaker 1: indebted to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you pay if you don't really want.
Speaker 6: To, Like, yeah, I don't know what's up with that.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're about to call Alice in a second here,
Speaker 4: but your email said, you're really hoping that we can
Speaker 4: get a hold of her because, quote, she's the first
Speaker 4: quality girl that I've been out with in half a year.
Speaker 6: Six months is a long time.
Speaker 4: Okay, some people get a lot more dates, and you
Speaker 4: know what, we want to do that for you, Aaron.
Speaker 4: If you did mess up, we would like to figure
Speaker 4: out what exactly the mistake was that could help you
Speaker 4: for the next future six months of bad dates.
Speaker 1: It'll help him fix what's with her and go out
Speaker 1: with her again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brooke, you are right, but I do want to
Speaker 2: be realistic here. Okay, she's not calling.
Speaker 4: Him back, but let's find out why when we come
Speaker 4: back and do your second date update right after this.
Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second date updates.
Speaker 4: You know, I really like our listener, Aaron, because he
Speaker 4: sounds like a good dude and sourceful too. Not only
Speaker 4: was he a thoughtful guy who planned a very special
Speaker 4: date for a lease because she said on her profile
Speaker 4: that she's really into travel, so he took her to
Speaker 4: a restaurant by the airport. She turns out it was
Speaker 4: literally right by the airport, like, yeah, directly next to it,
Speaker 4: where thanks to all the planes they could barely hear
Speaker 4: each other speaking, and being that resource guy that he is,
Speaker 4: he pivoted to another place, a little farther away where
Speaker 4: they could actually communicate with each other, and he got
Speaker 4: to learn a little bit more about Elise and she
Speaker 4: got to know more about him until she suddenly cut
Speaker 4: the date short.
Speaker 1: Which is too bad because I feel like you really
Speaker 1: proved you can handle a situation.
Speaker 3: We love a good pivot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Trying to hype you up a little bit because sometimes
Speaker 1: these can be a little rough.
Speaker 4: The thing is what caused her to have the sudden
Speaker 4: change of heart and basically storm out.
Speaker 1: She didn't storm out, She just asked for the check abruptly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Paige.
Speaker 4: For its stormy stormy adjacent all right, I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 4: That's the whole point of the second point. So we're
Speaker 4: hoping to find that out. If she answers our phone calls,
Speaker 4: and we are going to call her constantly until.
Speaker 2: She picks up.
Speaker 1: We're not creepy at all.
Speaker 2: No, no, you.
Speaker 6: Quo with that, Aaron I already, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Beautiful, committed to this, all right, We're all in let's
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it right now.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hey, Elise, this is jeff from Brook and Jeffrey
Speaker 4: in the Morning.
Speaker 2: How are you doing.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, who's this?
Speaker 4: There's a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 4: the Morning. Good morning.
Speaker 1: This is Elise. Right, we didn't actually confirm that.
Speaker 2: Now there's a lease.
Speaker 4: Even if it's not a lease, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 7: Okay, this is so random. What are you calling about.
Speaker 4: We are calling about this segment we do. It's called
Speaker 4: the Second Date Update, and the reason for it is
Speaker 4: one of our listeners has reached out hoping that we
Speaker 4: can get a hold of you after you went on
Speaker 4: a date with him.
Speaker 2: You're not calling him back anymore. It's a guy named Aaron.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. Okay, all right, yeah, so Aaron, I.
Speaker 8: Don't really understand why you guys are calling me.
Speaker 4: Because he told us about the day that you two
Speaker 4: hung out near the airport and then at a second restaurant.
Speaker 1: And he was like so bumped because he had like
Speaker 1: come up with this great idea based on your interest
Speaker 1: of travel, and then it kind of backfired.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, so you guys know about the date.
Speaker 4: Yes, and what we don't know is if there's a
Speaker 4: reason why you're kind of it seems like to him
Speaker 4: that you're avoiding him. No, and actually, according to him,
Speaker 4: you stopped the date kind of abruptly.
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, no, I mean things just sort of ended,
Speaker 7: like he's he's really nice. Honestly, if I'd met him
Speaker 7: last year, it probably would have worked. But now I'm
Speaker 7: just like, I'm just adhering to like some strict dating
Speaker 7: rules that I'm not breaking, just so I can have
Speaker 7: a lot more clarity in this whole dating world.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Ye, like he's shorter than your minimum or something.
Speaker 7: No, No, nothing like that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm enough to apologize for my co host Jose here.
Speaker 4: He doesn't like rules to hold him back.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to follow him since Kindergarten a rebel.
Speaker 4: But if you've laid some rules down for your dating
Speaker 4: life that could be healthy.
Speaker 1: Can you share any of them with us?
Speaker 2: Are we allowed to know?
Speaker 7: You really want to know?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, people listening maybe like that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Especially especially if Aaron had broke one of them.
Speaker 8: Okay, so here they go. Number one.
Speaker 7: If you don't make good money cut Number two. If
Speaker 7: you haven't gone to therapy cut.
Speaker 2: Waait wait what if they haven't gone to therapy?
Speaker 1: Ever, you don't have to deal with other people's baggage.
Speaker 4: Therapy.
Speaker 2: They're perfect, got it?
Speaker 7: No, not that anyone's perfect. A lot of men haven't
Speaker 7: dealt with a lot of stuff, and a lot of
Speaker 7: guys that have been on date with want to trauma
Speaker 7: bond and I'm like, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean these are interesting, but we do
Speaker 4: have a required time limit on this segment.
Speaker 2: So how long is the list going to be?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Can we get to our guy broke?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: There's just five.
Speaker 1: Okay, the first two money and therapy.
Speaker 8: Number three.
Speaker 7: If you're rude to wait staff or janitor's cut?
Speaker 4: Yeah, was he rude to one of the waiters at
Speaker 4: the restaurant? No?
Speaker 7: No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that wasn't the one.
Speaker 7: Number four. If you've ever lied to a cheated on
Speaker 7: a significant other? Cut?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Who hasn't lied to a significant other? That's so bad?
Speaker 2: That's true, Sorr. I always focus on the cheating part.
Speaker 7: I don't mean like a white lie, I mean like
Speaker 7: living a double life.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think, Okay, big lie.
Speaker 7: And number five and this is the one that got him.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: This is the rule that he broke.
Speaker 7: If you have any friends who lie or cheat, cut,
Speaker 7: why would.
Speaker 1: Your friends behavior dictate who you are as a person.
Speaker 7: It doesn't dictate who you are, but it's who you're
Speaker 7: hanging out with really determines the kind of person you're
Speaker 7: going to be and the values you have.
Speaker 4: Okay, but wait, how do you know that one of
Speaker 4: his friends lied or cheated? You know?
Speaker 7: I asked him, has he ever been cheated on? And
Speaker 7: he's like, no, forget that. My friend was but he
Speaker 7: got her back, he cheated on her and blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: And he was like super enthusiastic, and I was like discussing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, So your logic is because one of
Speaker 4: his friends cheated, that cheater on a cheater, that means
Speaker 4: he is not worth dating.
Speaker 7: I didn't say he's not worth dating for somebody else.
Speaker 7: I said that I don't want to deal with that.
Speaker 4: We eliminate almost anybody, like everybody is friends with somebody
Speaker 4: out there that these.
Speaker 1: Are her standards. That's the hard thing is you can't
Speaker 1: argue with how somebody.
Speaker 4: Feel, and we can, I guess respect to your rules.
Speaker 4: The good news is I didn't hear any rules about
Speaker 4: not quietly listening in on people's phone conversations, because that
Speaker 4: is what Aaron is doing right now. He's on the
Speaker 4: other line waiting to talk to you.
Speaker 6: Hey, Lee, how you doing.
Speaker 5: That's kind of insane, right WHOA.
Speaker 6: Well? Why am I getting punished for that?
Speaker 7: I don't want to involve myself at this point in
Speaker 7: my life with people who support liars and cheaters.
Speaker 5: You didn't hear like he didn't because his girlfriend cheated
Speaker 5: first and broken.
Speaker 8: I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 7: Like you're here like trying to justify it now, and
Speaker 7: that's literally just making it even worse.
Speaker 1: But he sounds like a strong person who knows who
Speaker 1: he is. Like sometimes that can be true, where if
Speaker 1: you can be influenced by a friend, if you're not
Speaker 1: totally certain of who you are. Aaron seems like he's there.
Speaker 8: Man, Sorry, you got all that information from this phone call?
Speaker 5: Or did you date him?
Speaker 4: He's our friend. We're trying to help them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that thing with friends. If you're calling everybody
Speaker 7: and anyone your friends. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I just I'm just trying to keep.
Speaker 7: A tighter circle at this point, and I just want
Speaker 7: to be clear about the kind of people I want
Speaker 7: in my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So it sounds like your mind is made
Speaker 4: up of Lisa and there's no way that you will
Speaker 4: break or even bend this rule to give him another chance.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, honestly, if he's one the
Speaker 7: sever ties with this guy, I don't know, maybe with
Speaker 7: his friend, I might be runing to go out again.
Speaker 5: No way, no way, Come on, I wanted.
Speaker 4: To break off an entire friendship, I would say I.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't want to date someone who would do that.
Speaker 4: Yeaharon, what do you think about that ultimatum?
Speaker 6: I'm flabbergasted.
Speaker 5: I have never met anyone that is so I don't
Speaker 5: think you know that that's my best friend.
Speaker 6: He rubs a non profit for children. What I would
Speaker 6: sit here and say, he's a good guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most cheaters are, they slid by.
Speaker 1: And just because you cheat was doesn't define who you
Speaker 1: are as a person for the rest of your life. Like,
Speaker 1: it's not like he was like sleeping around on his
Speaker 1: wife or something.
Speaker 4: You know, at least go ahead and tell my co
Speaker 4: host why she's wrong.
Speaker 7: Listen, you guys can say whatever you want, but this
Speaker 7: is what I believe. If he's willing to sever the friendship,
Speaker 7: we can try it again.
Speaker 6: Okay, oh my god, but.
Speaker 8: I need to look at your phone and see you
Speaker 8: deleted his number.
Speaker 4: Aaron, do you want to ditch your best friend in
Speaker 4: order to go out with a lease one more time?
Speaker 2: Because we'll pay for.
Speaker 1: It, just a small stipulation to a nice second date.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: We just need a yes or no Aaron.
Speaker 5: Gosh, thinking about it, I think I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't do that.
Speaker 7: I can't cut off.
Speaker 5: My best friend because for a second date.
Speaker 8: And you know what, and that's why we didn't even
Speaker 8: have to have this conversation.
Speaker 7: I left there as politely as possible.
Speaker 8: I paid for my food.
Speaker 7: And if you want to go ahead and defend your
Speaker 7: friend and his negative energy, he guess could just be
Speaker 7: toxic together. I gotta go.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, my god.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I think she hung up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Are you sad about it?
Speaker 4: Eric?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this conversation kind of helped me
Speaker 5: move on a little bit.
Speaker 6: I just think that's so hard headed.
Speaker 4: Anybody else fund in ironic that like if he would
Speaker 4: have stayed at the airplanes flying over, she would have
Speaker 4: probably never heard that. Yeah, relationship of all time.
Speaker 1: Rerook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 4: When a woman gives you an ultimatum to permanently cut
Speaker 4: ties with your friends after one date, that means she
Speaker 4: really cares about Well.
Speaker 1: That's nice, Jeffery. You don't see it as any sort
Speaker 1: of red flat.
Speaker 2: No, she was the absolute best for you.
Speaker 4: It's just like I remember my mom used to tell
Speaker 4: me my friends were a bad influence. Oh, and you
Speaker 4: know what she was right, Oh she look where my
Speaker 4: life ended up. Yeah, and she would have listened.
Speaker 1: To her, And look at the healthy relationship you have
Speaker 1: with your mother.
Speaker 4: I bet ten years from now, Aaron's going to be working,
Speaker 4: probably in radio, looking back on this moment, saying I
Speaker 4: should have listened to a lease, should have ditched my friends,
Speaker 4: and I would be in a much better place.
Speaker 1: It's doubtful. Yeah, it's highly doubtful.
Speaker 2: I don't know he values friendship. I guess, so good
Speaker 2: for you, Er, I kind of understand.
Speaker 4: But like if every single friend you had it was
Speaker 4: a cheater, maybe you have some kind of point. But
Speaker 4: one person cheated one time, accidentally and he hasn't.
Speaker 1: That cheated on first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's even hard.
Speaker 1: The guy works a nonprofit for kids for him.
Speaker 4: I mean, gee, all the owners of those places are
Speaker 4: kind of shady.
Speaker 2: If you ask me.
Speaker 1: Nonprofits don't typically have owners.
Speaker 2: That's why exactly.
Speaker 8: Shade D.
Speaker 4: Anyway, if you got some shady business going on in
Speaker 4: your dating life, you can always email us and we'll
Speaker 4: reach out to that person who's not calling you back.
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