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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 2: Problem solved bed on the Enzo pickoff.

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Speaker 1: Hi's here White with the interception, the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty, right there?

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Speaker 2: Rights slam on the ground by fooda baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: So everybuddy. Once upon a time he was in the

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Speaker 2: beverage industry, right sales, and he was the quintessential sales guy,

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Speaker 2: high energy and used to say, my job is to

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Speaker 2: here on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific Office Automation.

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Speaker 2: Audio two ears or maybe podcasts two platforms. That is,

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Speaker 2: once again just to refresh everyone's memory and objective here

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Speaker 2: that is the madra.

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Speaker 5: You know what amazes me every time, Paul, is how

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Speaker 5: you veer us one way and you still get us

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Speaker 5: to our proper destination.

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Speaker 2: Don't jinx it because I'm having a hard time maybe

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Speaker 2: understanding the juxtaposition of our game plan with the actual

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Speaker 2: mission as described here by Darren Urban As this is

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Speaker 2: the Impact Draft edition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 4: We could have figured that out beforehand, but that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Poly podcast over here. I'm not sure if the word

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Speaker 2: is dubious, but I think I'm gonna need to be

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Speaker 2: sold myself Darren on what this concept is exactly and

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Speaker 2: how we factor into your plan here.

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Speaker 4: So the plan is going to be this, as we

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Speaker 4: put together this fine podcast, we're going to do a draft.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna call.

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Speaker 3: It the Impact You miss those mock drafts so much

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Speaker 3: that we're draft.

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Speaker 2: Now says nothing to do with like fantasy football.

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Speaker 4: No, So this is this is how much these Cardinals players,

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Speaker 4: whoever we may be picking u will be impacting the

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Speaker 4: team this year now in theory, because I know you

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Speaker 4: guys are are monsters when it comes to your prep

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Speaker 4: for this podcast. You guys already have your your your

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Speaker 4: draft board, and then as we go around we can

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Speaker 4: each we've got to figure out this draft order. I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure how the best way to do that would be,

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Speaker 4: but you can let me go first, that's fine, and

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Speaker 4: then we will go ahead and draft who we think

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Speaker 4: will make the greatest impact from most to least, and

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Speaker 4: and we'll kind of see how this draft plays out

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Speaker 4: with what this team is going to do this so like, so.

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Speaker 2: If I'm understanding this correctly, the no doubt, no brainer,

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Speaker 2: number one pick would be Kyler just because.

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Speaker 4: We haven't had the number one pick, Cat Paul Way,

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Speaker 4: why are you trying to crap all over this?

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Speaker 2: I know I'm saying it because just the position he plays.

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Speaker 2: If you're talking the impact on a game, the impact

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Speaker 2: on a team, obviously it would be your starting quarterback,

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Speaker 2: right is that what you mean by this?

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily just position, but player.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean it could be if you have the

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Speaker 3: Kind of nervous for this? Why is that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I really don't know, Danny, don't get

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Speaker 2: People don't overthink it, me, don't overthink it.

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Speaker 3: For every time I heard that, Paul, we rarely agree.

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Speaker 2: On much here on Cardinals Underground, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: Three gets the first pick to one.

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Speaker 4: All right, I mean, I'm willing to do ladies first here.

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Speaker 4: We'll do a snake draft, so whoever goes third is

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Speaker 2: And since I cracked wise off the top, I'll go third,

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Speaker 4: We'll just do this and all right, that's.

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Speaker 2: All great, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 4: So now Danny gets the first pick, and apparently Paul's

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Speaker 3: Can I get the music in the background before Roger

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Speaker 2: There's no music that pick is in.

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Speaker 2: Done number one, pick envelow, Please, here we go.

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Speaker 4: Who are you picking, Danny?

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Speaker 2: You're on the clock, Danny.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I hadn't had this thought until Paul

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Speaker 2: Don't be so pliable. Stick to your guns.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you're saying next, you don't want me to pick

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Speaker 3: who I'm gonna pick?

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Speaker 2: Who would you have picked if not for my earlier

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Speaker 2: die track.

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Speaker 5: The number one name at the top of my document

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Speaker 5: on my computer in front of me is Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: There's no other option at taking the first pick.

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Speaker 4: In this dr We weren't arguing with you, Paul. We

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Speaker 5: This is the first first full off season for Kyler

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Speaker 5: making fun of Paris Johnson juniors swing in James Connor's

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Speaker 5: Last season, before Kyler came back, the Cardinals were averaging

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Speaker 5: came with Kyler Murray as your quarterback. I have very

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Speaker 5: six for Kyler. There are no there are no excuses

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Speaker 5: consistently relying on them. Kyler's going to create success for

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's I mean, we okay, of course

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Speaker 4: Kyler was going to be one, and that makes all

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Speaker 4: the sense in the world. I mean, we've said it

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Speaker 4: as Paul mentioned, he was at the top of Paul's list.

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Speaker 4: Of course, he was on the top on my list.

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Speaker 4: And I think ultimately, I mean I think somebody asked

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Speaker 4: I don't like that dramatic of a black and white

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty evident he believes he's all in.

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Speaker 2: He's fully vested. Now. Is that because of Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 2: The injury, and look, when you lose something that you

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Speaker 2: he had to say on Arizona Sports where he talked about,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we used to be a team that

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Speaker 2: didn't play that hard. Now we're a team nobody wants

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Speaker 2: At least that was a narrative in twenty twenty three. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you're a team no one wants to play because

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Speaker 2: least you've increased the talent level significantly in that room, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? Dot dot dot? And for that reason,

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Speaker 4: All right, so we'll move on because we're going to

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Speaker 4: be in trouble if we spend this Monk much time

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Speaker 4: I think Tray Benson's got a chance to make some noise.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is a team that's going to

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Speaker 4: use multiple running backs in multiple ways to run the ball.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll be interested to see if anybody takes

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Speaker 4: the Rondelle Moore role this year in the wide receiver

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Speaker 4: As we've been saying the vibe is a certain way,

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Speaker 4: I think you need that those heart and soul players,

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Speaker 4: Monty Austin for it, I think James connors that guy.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point, well said. I mean, James Connor's

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Speaker 2: more than a running back. He's a mindset. He is

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Speaker 5: Connor's coming off a thousand plus rushing yard season and

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Speaker 4: See this is this is where the draft starts to

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Speaker 4: to diverge a little. Let's hear Paul, which what's your

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Speaker 2: I did have Kyler one. I did have James Conor

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Speaker 2: two A to B Kaizer White, who is my selection

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Speaker 2: at number three overall quarterback of the defense, Kaizer White.

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Speaker 2: And the value of any player is truly gauged when

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened the last seven games of last year.

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Speaker 2: And I just think every not just one ball, it's

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Speaker 2: I believe is real, not just his style of play,

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Speaker 2: Washington in Week one a year ago, right, Oh, I

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that, Sam, not so sorry, and he shoves

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Speaker 2: him down again. Okay, that's set a tone right there.

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Speaker 2: But then just the way the players rave about his

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Speaker 2: And based on what he said in the off season,

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Speaker 2: a four win team, if you can, you know, contend

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Speaker 3: That's a good underrat to pick.

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Speaker 4: I just think Kaiser White is that guy again when

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Speaker 2: So now we go to number four. This is not

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Speaker 4: See. This is why you set up a draft board, Paul,

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Speaker 4: because then you're just you're just You've done all the

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Speaker 4: now it's just picking the guys off the board. That's

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Speaker 4: what I have here, That's what you did right now.

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Speaker 2: As Monni said, just follow your board, and I'm actually

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Speaker 4: Whoa a surprise for he was on my board, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going Max Melton, the importance of that other corner opposite.

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Speaker 2: Sean Murphy Bunting hearing some good things, pretty pretty good

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Speaker 2: So there are some things I'm here and now that

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Speaker 4: You know what's incredible, Danny is I could have sworn.

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Speaker 4: In recent podcast memory, Paul was saying that they signed

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be like the flayer.

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Speaker 2: I do you recall I'm dealing though, with what's in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're going off the board.

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Speaker 2: You know, I can't make lobster bisk if I don't

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Speaker 4: I will, I will, I will say that. I do think,

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Speaker 4: like I said, Melton was actually on my board lower,

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Speaker 4: But I just think because when you add in need,

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Speaker 4: I think he's like right in line to like make

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Speaker 2: I didn't like Danny's point though about you know, developing

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Speaker 4: What podcasting is about. Okay, I believe I have the

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Speaker 4: number five pick, number.

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Speaker 2: Five pick, so U my guy, it's Kyler, James Connor,

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Speaker 4: Five, I'm going with another rookie. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior. Sorry about that, Danny, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: I is it too late to trade?

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Speaker 4: I I just think, excuse me, we've talked about We've

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Speaker 2: But no, just around fourteen hundred Jamar Chase, justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 4: That's all I do think when we talk about impact,

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Speaker 4: other way. I definitely enjoyed the Kyler Murray comment on

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Speaker 5: I had Harrison on my board, and typically I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: I think it's fair to say that Harrison doesn't come

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Speaker 5: when you're looking at physical traits, intelligence, humility, putting the

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Speaker 5: even saying that you can see the natural talent and

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Speaker 2: If you guys noticed that every time a player on

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Speaker 4: Look. I mean, there's a reason he was the fourth

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, based on the recent outcomes of

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Speaker 2: do not do not flex that or tout that whatsoever. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Actually, you know, I made my board, and now that

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got back to back picks two days?

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Speaker 4: I know what? What? What is the what? What are

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm been deciding between like two players on defense

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Speaker 4: See this is how money doesn't want to do in

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Speaker 3: I'm going to board.

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Speaker 2: She's talking herself out of it or not.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with bj Ojli. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: His first full offseason, he was rehabbing his rookie year.

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Speaker 5: This time last year, he's put on weight. He's been

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Speaker 5: just based on his size and what his stride length is.

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Speaker 5: Last season, Ojelari played in all seventeen games. He had

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Speaker 3: You guys got to step.

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Speaker 5: Up and you have to show us what you can do.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going with BJ Ojalari.

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Speaker 4: BJ was also on my board. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have that self caught.

439
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a swag that comes with a single digit.

440
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: You've willingly put yourself in the crossair exactly. But I

441
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: wrote that down, Darren, because you just guaranteed the Red

442
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: Sea when you said someone is going to emerge as

443
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: a pass rusher, so Red Sea, book it and bank it.

444
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 2: Darren Urban says, there will be a legit pass rusher

445
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: on this team, and.

446
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 4: You're I'm sure you're going to hold me to that.

447
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 4: On a future podcast.

448
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 5: Okay, my next pick seven, it's my next pick. Yeah, no,

449
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 5: it's about me. My next pick again between two players.

450
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: Now, Danny, you jumped all over at your pick. You're

451
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: not ready to pick. Okay, I'm do you do this

452
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: at restaurants with a menu? Are you in the menu?

453
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: See?

454
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 5: Here's the thing is the best thing is when you

455
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 5: go to a restaurant with someone and you guys each

456
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 5: get something you want and then you can share. So

457
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 5: it's not is stressful in that.

458
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: Sense, although every time I do that with my wife,

459
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: she's like, no, I don't want you to get something

460
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: you don't want, just so I can try two things.

461
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sticking to it. I'm going with try McBride.

462
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: I'm going with the tight end. Seventeen games last year,

463
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 5: twelve starts because zach Ertz was a starter. At the

464
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: start of last season, McBride set a franchise record for

465
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 5: single season receptions by a tight end with eighty one

466
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 5: eight hundred and twenty five receiving yards and three touchdowns.

467
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 5: And again, that was not even with a full year

468
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 5: of being your starting tight end, half the season with

469
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 5: your franchise quarterback, and once McBride and Kyler got going.

470
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 5: It was fun to watch. Can't imagine it was fun

471
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 5: to defend, but it was fun to watch. McBride was

472
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 5: a top tight end and receiver in stats across the

473
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: board once Kyler returned. I think having a full off

474
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 5: season working together as two starters with the playbook, I

475
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 5: don't see how they as a duo do anything besides

476
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 5: make strides forward significantly. McBride has said this offseason he

477
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 5: really wants to make sure he's a complete tight end

478
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: and he wants to get into blocking. The fact that

479
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 5: the Cardinals drafted Tip Ryman, who has made it clear

480
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 5: he wants to go out of mal some people and

481
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: be your blocker, tells me that that it's also important

482
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 5: making sure that McBride is going to be one of

483
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 5: those open, reliable, consistent receivers.

484
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: And that's what he is.

485
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 5: He's reliable, he's good with his hands, he's tough to

486
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 5: bring down, gets you those extra yardage. So I'm going

487
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 5: to go with McBride.

488
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 4: I think that's a great pick.

489
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: Thank you.

490
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 4: Absolutely on my board, and he was high on my board.

491
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 4: I will say that the transformation on Trey McBride, especially

492
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: after Zach Ertz was no longer around. Was amazing in

493
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: terms of his confidence level and what he did. And

494
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: I like everything about Trey McBride For a guy that

495
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: when he was first picked, everybody was skittish. Whether that

496
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 4: ended up being a good pick or not, I think

497
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 4: he's gonna he's got a real chance to be somebody

498
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: that could carve his name into Cardinals history when it's

499
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 4: all said.

500
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: And done, he revers George Kittle if he could truly

501
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: be that dual tight end like George Kittle. Look Out

502
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: and the step and the surge in his progress that

503
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: he took in year two. It makes me wonder if

504
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: a bjo Jali could do that. Look Out, if a

505
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Dante Stills, if a Garrett Williams, of a Michael Wilson,

506
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: all guys who had really solid rookie years, if they

507
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: could take a next step in year two like Trey

508
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: McBride did. Do you know where that puts this Cardinals team.

509
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of progress in one season.

510
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: So all right, that's number seven, that's number seven at

511
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: number eight, Darren Urban, I'm sticking with my board.

512
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: I'm going defense and I'm going Justin Jones.

513
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: Oh, that was the one I was deciding between with bj.

514
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: There you go. I just when we look and we

515
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 4: talked about this again on a recent pod, But like,

516
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 4: this defensive line looks incredibly different than it did. And

517
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: I know that necessarily the the Justin Jones and the

518
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: beat Balall Nichols free agent signings weren't necessarily creating a

519
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: ton of waves around the league. But I think those

520
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: two guys are going to help the line a lot.

521
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: And I think Jones in particular, I love kind of

522
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 4: how his his vibe, this kind of nasty vibe yet open.

523
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 4: When he was talking about near the end of OTAs

524
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 4: when he was talking about how you know you've got

525
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: to be you got to be giving out advice, but

526
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: you got to be listening to advice. Everybody's got to

527
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: be listening to each other. I just think he's going

528
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: to be perfect. And listening to Darius Robinson talk about

529
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: how when Jones and Nichols talk in the defensive line room,

530
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: he's just a sponge taking it all in. I think

531
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 4: both off and on the field, I think he's just

532
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 4: gonna make I think he's gonna make a significant impact.

533
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do I think three years from now if

534
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson really emerges, that guys like Justin Jones and

535
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: Blall Nichols will be integral to that that he learned

536
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: from two ultimate professionals and guys who you know, really

537
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: understand the importance of accountability and then durability, and you

538
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: play every down of every game as hard as you can,

539
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: and you hope that really rubs off on a Darius Robinson,

540
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: although from all accounts he's already ahead of the curve.

541
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: So that leaves me at number nine. I was surprised

542
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: you didn't go Buddha Baker. Surprised you didn't go Buddha Baker.

543
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: He's on my board. Okay, So is that where you're

544
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: going at nine?

545
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: No?

546
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 5: Well then no, what the heck, there's no way we're

547
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: going to do a draft and Buddha doesn't end up.

548
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: That feels wrong.

549
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: I just feel like, here, you know this, late in

550
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: the draft, you've got to take a flyer by low Cell.

551
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: This is the punter. I'm done close. Oh no, a.

552
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: Return man, okay, slash number two receiver. At least he

553
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: was your number two receiver the second half of last year.

554
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: Greg Dortch.

555
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: Greg Dorsch number nine.

556
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 2: With the new kickoff rules, Greg Dorch could be a

557
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: real factor. You're gonna go from twenty percent of the

558
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: kickoff's return to more than sixty percent of the kickoff's return.

559
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: The importance of the kickoff has returned, the impact of

560
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: the kickoff has returned. And I know that Doorch is

561
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: of the opinion that, guess what, this new format suits

562
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: his skill set really well. And I don't think he's

563
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: really hit the ceiling yet as a return man in

564
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: the NFL. Now, we saw last year the forty nine

565
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: yard punt return against Atlanta that was a game changer.

566
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: He had three big kickoff returns against Chicago that equaled

567
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: almost one hundred yards won to start the second half.

568
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: That was big. I mean, we've seen it in spots.

569
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: You got to remember at Wake Forest he was a

570
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: first team All American return man. And I just think

571
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: in this situation here where impact draft, you mean, with

572
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: the no with the new kickoff and only five yards

573
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: of distance between and now he's essentially gonna have blockers

574
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: in front of him before, I just think it's gonna

575
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: bode very well. And so in terms of impact, I'm

576
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: going Greg Dortsch as my final selection.

577
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: That's that's a sneaky pick.

578
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll see. Sorry, should we recap this? Should we

579
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: recap the draft class?

580
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: I've been keeping score or have you have?

581
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: You're driving this thing?

582
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: It was Kyler Murray number one. I don't think there's

583
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: any argument on that. James countor number two. I actually,

584
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: as much as I love to disagree with Danny, I

585
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: James countor number two on my board. Darren's picked then sorry,

586
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: Kaisier White number three. Now are you guys on board

587
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: with that? Or was there some idea?

588
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: Was not on my board, but it was heavily considered,

589
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: all right.

590
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: Same Max Melt number four.

591
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: On board.

592
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: I swung for the fences on that.

593
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: You got some fence swingers.

594
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I left Marvin Harrison Junior on the board. And

595
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: then Darren went with Marv at five. Can we call

596
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: them Marv yet? Or probably not? BG Jalari at number six,

597
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: Danny Surrex solid. I mean, nobody's winning the off season

598
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: like BG O Jalar. We were all winning the off

599
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: season like BJ We'd be somewhere, also true. And then

600
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Trey mcplay number seven. That was Danny as well, and

601
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: no doubt. I mean, if you have other weapons and

602
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: you have a top five, top ten run game, Trey

603
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: mcplay gets a lot of room to operate. And then

604
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: Justin Jones, Okay, why Justin Jones instead of Blall Nichols,

605
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: By the.

606
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: Way, I just feel like, I mean, Jones has had

607
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a pop for his career

608
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: in general.

609
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: And and then we all left Buddha Baker on the

610
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: board most significantly me me and I went Greg Dorch.

611
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: But it would not have been on off the would

612
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: not have stayed on the board if I was picking.

613
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Buddha was on my board.

614
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: Michael Wilson was who I was deciding between you with

615
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 5: Trey McBride of of going, you know, if Harrison's gonna

616
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: attract attention from a defense, someone like Wilson taking advantage

617
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: of those opportunities.

618
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: Justin Jones was one of those on my board I did.

619
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: I did nine people because I figured, you know, it's

620
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: like the thing, no matter what, I'm going to get

621
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: who at least though, and so Buddha and Mike Wilson

622
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: were the two guys.

623
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 5: On my I mean, you could have argued Jalen Thompson

624
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: had a really good year last.

625
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: Year as well, and again, we're trying to say who's

626
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: going to have the most dramatic impact right now. Buddha might,

627
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: But are you sure you.

628
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: Have the right Wilson? Could I argue Mac Wilson is asleep?

629
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: Possible? You inside linebackers.

630
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Darren, you guaranteed earlier. I'm quoting you. Someone

631
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: is going to emerge as a pass rusher, Darren Urban directly.

632
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it's mac Wilson off the edge.

633
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: Possible. I didn't see you draft him.

634
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Good, So yeah, you know what I'm going to do.

635
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

636
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Since it was such a slight at the expense of

637
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker, there was that serious NFL radio poll of

638
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: the top position groups, you know, and I'm still outraged

639
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: that they had six position safety position rooms and ahead

640
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: of Buddha Baker and who knows how many they had.

641
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: They only listed six, and Buddha and Jalen Thompson are

642
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: not included. I printed that off. I put it up

643
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: in the safety's room. I'm gonna do this with our

644
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 2: with our impact draft board. Maybe I'll print this off.

645
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: I'll put it in there.

646
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start feeling guilty about this as soon as

647
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: we stopped, so that we didn't have Boot in there.

648
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 3: Shoot, should we re record?

649
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: Okay? Any other in the uh, you know, others to

650
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: be named later, others receiving boats. Is there another name

651
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: in there that you had on your board, Danny that.

652
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably wouldn't do to Oh didn't get drafted. I

653
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: had Zaven on my board, Okay, but I don't know.

654
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: If that I still feel I had bj Ojalari higher

655
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: and I feel like that that would be more of

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Speaker 3: an impact. So that's how I landed there.

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Speaker 2: All right, So there you go. We got you guys

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Speaker 2: tuned up, maybe for your fantasy football drafts. Do you

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Speaker 2: do fantasy football either? Darren just dismissed it immediately out

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Speaker 2: of here, just dismissed it. Okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: How many mock drafts did you do for this?

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Speaker 2: And maybe we'll leave it there a question Darren doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to answer here on this edition of Cardinals Underground,

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