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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. Hey, welcome to the Blackout to his podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rod, joined us always.

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Speaker 2: By my co host Kieren, and we are live on

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Speaker 2: a Sunday at noon, yes Eastern Standard time.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anything else is happening here other than

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Speaker 2: the tournament for March Madness and who's watching that.

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Speaker 1: It's a pandemic.

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Speaker 2: But it's still a very special show because we have

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Speaker 2: a first time yes, although not the first time we

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Speaker 2: ever mentioned it on the show. I've been listening to

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Speaker 2: her podcast for a while at this point and first

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Speaker 2: heard about her from Tea with Queen and Jay. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to the Black Batty Brigade, always putting on everybody listen.

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Speaker 1: If there's nothing else, they gonna go up for each other. Okay, go.

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Speaker 2: As mentioned in the Root one hundred, black trans millennial activist,

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Speaker 2: executive director of Black Trans Women, Inc. And producer, board member, producer, creator,

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Speaker 2: and one of the hosts of Marcher's plate podcast, Black

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Speaker 2: Trans Talk, UH, board member of Trans Faith What What

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Speaker 2: Don't You Do? It's the list on it. It's domic

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Speaker 2: styles and domond styles without the eat. Please don't forget

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Speaker 2: to take the e out. Okay, how you doing, domic

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Speaker 2: I am good. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't do I do a lot, but I don't

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Speaker 1: do enough checking the white people lately. They need some

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Speaker 1: help extra lately.

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Speaker 2: I think Sharing Osborne got them roped up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I need to check them a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they missed Trump. Yes, you know they're

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Speaker 2: going through withdraw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like in sports when like the best

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Speaker 2: player like Lebron James is out and then they always

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Speaker 2: interview the other players and they be like, next man up.

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Speaker 2: You know, we just hey, even though the best player

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Speaker 2: not here, we all got to step up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, y'all are stepping up? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: you are. But yeah, I do I do a lot.

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of stuff. Yeah, here we go

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Speaker 1: at the home. The humility is like right, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like ship.

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Speaker 2: Most of my stuff is revolved around queer trauma. So

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Speaker 2: I create survival mechanisms for my girls when they're not dying.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not I'm not trying to be humble.

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Speaker 2: It's just that, Yeah, I have to do a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff. It's like whenever a fat person take a

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Speaker 2: picture of people be like you're so brave, It's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm just fat. I thought I looked good in this shirt.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize I know, me and one the woman

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Speaker 2: running the same vein now because I'm taking pictures of

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Speaker 2: she's like fighting bad guys, like let's let's calm down.

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Speaker 2: But still, first of all, I got to start with, like,

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Speaker 2: it's a random question, but I've just wondered the whole

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Speaker 2: time I've been listening to the show, Well, do you

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Speaker 2: have like a musical background, because the music on the

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Speaker 2: show is so good, you know you I feel like

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Speaker 2: you're always singing, even what we're watching for Tiama Queen

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Speaker 1: Are always like these catchy bops.

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Speaker 2: That get stuck in my Hey, oh that's a bomb,

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Speaker 2: Like she is, like she is so talented, Like did

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Speaker 2: you do you have any background in music or you

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Speaker 2: just kind of just grew up like you know, just

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Speaker 1: Yes, I grew up in the church, so there you go.

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Speaker 2: Grew up in the church of the KOJC Church, so

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Speaker 2: Ricky Dillar, god, Richard Smallwood. I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: so a lot of Adams, so many you know, music

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Speaker 2: gonna stop me from pursuing anything musical. You know, I

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Speaker 2: still did it, but I didn't, you know, pursue anything

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Speaker 2: but all through high school. My actually, my cousin is

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Speaker 2: Kicky Wyatt.

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Speaker 1: People don't wow.

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Speaker 2: So we all grew up in that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm gonna create my own. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the original one is a classic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I'm not you know, it's no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you know, we haven't even heard the new one yet.

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Speaker 1: It's no, but it's got it's got some big shoes

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Speaker 1: stuff in. No, I might just use it for my

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Speaker 1: interview episodes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, keep the original one for like when me and

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Speaker 2: Ze and Mia is talking.

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Speaker 1: But when I do like an interview, I'll use that

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Speaker 2: Like, we have a bunch of intros for the show

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Speaker 2: that are just people going I listened to the black outips,

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Speaker 1: It won't hurt them, you know, maybe they get to

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Speaker 1: like it. You know. We have a sports show, balls

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Speaker 2: And for the intro to that, I did a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of impressions, most of them terrible, yeah, really bad.

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Speaker 2: But then but then I did I did another, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, you just work it in there. They'll like it,

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Speaker 2: you know. The classic is but it'll be all right.

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Speaker 1: Is the classic. It'll be a come on now runs.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for y'll can hear the whole song?

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Speaker 1: That is a whole song? Oh for real? I only wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that where is it? Where is it

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Speaker 1: but it's finished. I I just gotta get it mixed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well it sounds it sounds great already, so I

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Speaker 2: also noticed, when I was reading up and doing my

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Speaker 2: won a First Amendment case in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened?

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Speaker 2: I just turned forty on the twenty eighth of February. Okay,

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Speaker 2: And so I had went through my whole high school

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Speaker 3: And I'm like what, And so yeah, I had to

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 4: One? Was it overwhelming being so young?

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Speaker 5: You know, because you know you're going when I'm fighting

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Speaker 2: I tell people I like, I'm like an accidental activist.

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Speaker 2: I did an interview with Ms Fixen and that was

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Speaker 1: I just I have a I'm a very prideful person.

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Speaker 3: So what what the What the principal didn't know is

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Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I'm not about to go

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Speaker 2: But because she was like, mm hmmm, you're not going

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Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, well I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna do I'm very prideful and very like

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Speaker 2: Y'all even start this mess when she's been like this

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Speaker 2: the parents didn't have any issues, not that I've heard.

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Speaker 1: And that was in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: And I think also one of the things that I

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Speaker 2: is that it's like a lot of times attention comes

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Speaker 1: Right, So when we see the stuff that goes national.

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Speaker 2: I remember we covered a story where it was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the comments on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: The niggas don't even live there, Like.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's like in the community.

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Speaker 1: Like, y'all not gonna do Diamond like this.

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Speaker 2: Wow, because I The thing is, after I won the case,

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Speaker 2: Me not to show up in school after I won. Like,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't want to go to class.

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Speaker 1: I just would like to tell you lost. So I was.

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Speaker 2: I did get to sun on them for graduation on me?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, let's so's it was a couple. It was

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Speaker 3: So I didn't have to go back to school like

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Speaker 1: God damn.

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Speaker 2: So oh, this bitch was petty, not only like so

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Speaker 2: you know, I took her. I took her to court

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Speaker 2: She saw me in the school by myself, and she

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Speaker 1: This is how Peddie this woman was. This is before

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Speaker 2: Literally saw me in the hallway, came upstairs, walked down

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Speaker 1: But all right, miss very extra. She was very extra.

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Speaker 2: That is Jacqueline green Wood.

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Speaker 1: Had y'all ever had problems before this or it just

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Speaker 2: She just was like, by own, guess what, I'm transphobic. Yes,

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Speaker 3: So she was one of them ladies that had that

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Speaker 1: Horrible, horrible. So she kissed me on my face and

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Speaker 3: On like two bleachers back because I was with my

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Speaker 3: But my homegirls played her because when the you know

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Speaker 2: I came to graduation and she I had to wear

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Speaker 3: As I walked through the door of the auditorium, I

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Speaker 1: So much.

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Speaker 3: So thats a valedictorian, one of the valedictorians. What what

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Speaker 3: what's the one called that's like the second? N Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so whoever is the second? Her name is Marquita Barry.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Marquita, if she ever sees this, She was like, honey,

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Speaker 2: you already took the attention off of us.

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Speaker 1: I wrote this whole.

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Speaker 4: Now it ain't about me. She just ripped it up.

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Speaker 1: She ripped it.

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Speaker 2: Don't matter, y'all, it don't matter. What was it nineteen

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Speaker 2: everybody is getting their name called it alphabetical order. She

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Speaker 2: the crowd just start hollering and screaming yes, yes, yes, yes, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Was in supporting me. And she was like right, like

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Speaker 2: But I love it because I you know, I love

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Speaker 2: It was just minding your business like that's not like.

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Speaker 2: and it's like, now I gotta fucking deal with this.

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Speaker 2: My at school, I was just coming to school doing

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Speaker 2: right and the first and the first Now I'm winning

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Speaker 2: First Amendment court cases.

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Speaker 1: I just wandered. I didn't even want to go to

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a link to I tell the story

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Speaker 3: I do. I do on YouTube because I'm a YouTuber too.

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Speaker 1: I do a series called The Love.

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Speaker 2: Beneath and I tell the whole story in detail because

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Speaker 2: the story revolves also involves the download brother that I

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put the link to the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine, man, that's that's that's such an

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Speaker 2: insane story. And how old you were going through all this.

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Speaker 1: I was eighteen eighteen, eighteen eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, that's because that's so young to be.

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Speaker 1: Like, I guess I.

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Speaker 5: Gotta go to court Wednesday, like you.

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Speaker 2: Going to prompt I mean, I guess we'll see what

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Speaker 2: to make this motherfucker mad and all over a kid

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Speaker 1: I also am a survivor of a teacher with stank breath,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to be an activist.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm finn to be an activist because he would

442
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: he drank coffee, he smoked cigarettes, and he to that

443
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: nicotine gun, which didn't help his breath at all, and

444
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: it just was like the gun was just adding like

445
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: a layer of sweetness to the stink.

446
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't helping at all. And it was a computer class,

447
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: which you would think, like, oh no, that's fun. It's computers.

448
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: You know, he over there, you know, anytime you fucked up.

449
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: He'd be over there your shoulder, like, so what you

450
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: want to do work?

451
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on like you for syrup on ship and

452
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 5: it was like this is better now.

453
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm like no, it's still stink.

454
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: And it was like we were all in the classroom

455
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: take turns looking at each other because we were just

456
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: trying not to fuck up.

457
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: That was listen. I had such good grades.

458
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: That's why I can type good now, because I was like,

459
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to make a mistake.

460
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: Hey, let me see what you're doing Ryder.

461
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, I got it all.

462
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: I'll be watering.

463
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: My off would be watering when you came over there,

464
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: like what's wrong with you?

465
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: How you don't know your breath stain? What? What? What?

466
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: Did he Later on, he's like that was my technique.

467
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: Every kid in my class always got They got a's

468
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: and b.

469
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: See, passing that technique down for generations.

470
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: I would just live a mush and tobacco every morning

471
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: and just get those black kids a's. So what is

472
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: black trans women ink? And like, how did you become

473
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: an executive director?

474
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh gosh.

475
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Speaker 2: So we are a nonprofit that is focused on the

476
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: social economic advancement of Black trans women. We are actually

477
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: a part of the Black Trans Advocacy Coalition. There's a

478
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: Black Trans Women's Ink, and then there's a Black Transmit's Ink,

479
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: and then we just had a baby little organization that.

480
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: We are in the steering process.

481
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: Called Black Transmix, which is like non binary people. And

482
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: so we all create this conglomerate that is folks. We

483
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: really folk is on creating like actual, you know, tangible

484
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: survival mechanisms for.

485
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: You know trans.

486
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm my sector is trans women, but we have everybody covered.

487
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: We are our particular, my particular tenure in this year

488
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: that I've had, We're focused on anti islands right now

489
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: and housing how I got here. So the founders is

490
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 3: Carter Brown. He's actually one of the what do you

491
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: call it, not defendants, one of the when you go

492
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: to Congress and you gotta testify and tell your story.

493
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: He's one of those people for the Equality Act. I

494
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: think it was Carter Brown.

495
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: He's based in Dallas and him Cameron Anderson and his

496
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: wife founded b Tech and they we.

497
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: Are in Texas.

498
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: And if you are talking about Texas activism, you're gonna

499
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: talk about me. You're gonna talk about Monica Roberts. You're

500
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: going to talk about you know what I'm saying. You're

501
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: gonna come and get us. We've been doing it for

502
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: a long time. Rest in peace, Monica Robberts. But they

503
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: came and called us and was like, oh, we would.

504
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: Love y'all to be a part of the board, on

505
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: our board and kind of the steering committee to the

506
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: beginning roots of this organization.

507
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: And we were like, I was like, I had a.

508
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: Honey on nine to five job, and I was like, honey,

509
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: I ain't got time, but I'll be a part of it.

510
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: But I'm just letting y'all know I ain't got the

511
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: time to be And so that's how it was.

512
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: They had me on the and I was basically a

513
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: part of the steering committee and on the board.

514
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: But then I left my job of eight years and

515
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: before I moved, I was going to move to Seattle

516
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: and work for this organization.

517
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: There.

518
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: But before I moved, they were like, please come and

519
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: be You've been a part of our team for ten

520
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: years now and on the board. Please be the executive

521
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: director because the previous executive director was stepping down.

522
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, long as y'all got my cars yeah,

523
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: and they were like, yes, whatever.

524
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: You want, d da da da and and also not

525
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: just my coins, but they were letting me whatever vision

526
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: I have, they were letting me do it.

527
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: And so once that, once we.

528
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: Established that, I was like sure, and I was able

529
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 2: to stay in Houston, which I love Houston. This is

530
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: my home now been here for thirteen years, and I

531
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: was I was able to stay in Houston. And now

532
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm literally my life revolves around doing.

533
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: The work that I love. Not because I want to

534
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: stop doing this work because I don't want to. I

535
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: don't want us to be in oppression forever.

536
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: But I am doing work that I feel has purpose

537
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: and that I care about.

538
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 5: So yes, How has COVID impacted activism? The activism that

539
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: you do, because a lot of it is built around

540
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: community and we're all here for each other and support

541
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: and now everybody has to be together separate and now

542
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 5: we have to do zooms and all that things. How

543
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: has that impacted your activism?

544
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad that you asked that, because actually, you know,

545
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: any type of national or like widespread devastation that happens,

546
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: it really just exacerbates the problem that are already there.

547
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: All right, So if we're talking about people, now we're

548
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: talking about everybody losing homes.

549
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: Trans people were already being kicked out and losing homes, right, Okay,

550
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: When we talk about is isolation, because something that's out

551
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: here that could actually harm you or potentially harm you,

552
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: trans people have already been isolated because you know, we

553
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: can get on the bus and somebody, we sit down

554
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: next to somebody because they hate trans people, they can

555
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: attack us and harm us. So we can come out

556
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: of our door and be attacked. We can walk down

557
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: the street and be attacked just the fact that somebody

558
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: can tell that we're a transperson. So we already go

559
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: through isolation. I know these are two different things, but.

560
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: The bottom line and the bottom line of the fear

561
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: is the same emotionality of a whole thing when you

562
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: go when you when COVID first popped off and people

563
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: were getting sick and going to the hospital and the

564
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: doctors didn't have no idea of how to take care

565
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: of you or how to deal with you or anything.

566
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: Trans people already deal with that. So when we go

567
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: to hospitals, particularly people in rural areas who don't have doctors,

568
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: who are really oppresting this type of thing when they

569
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: go to the hospital, they don't doctors don't know what

570
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: to do with them, Doctors don't know how to So

571
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: these type of feelings we kind of already been dealing with,

572
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: so we always already was prepared.

573
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: So as far as activists.

574
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: We just needed to shift, which is a beautiful thing,

575
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: beautiful and negative, Like it's a double X storage so

576
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing. We were able to shift to

577
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: being really direct service care providers, just really like we

578
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: had we opened up a pantry where we can mail

579
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: food to people who weren't able.

580
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: To buy food we were able to pay.

581
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: We'd give many grants for like one hundred and fifty

582
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: dollars to people who needed to keep their phones on,

583
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: sex workers who were stranded because the fucking everything was

584
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: shutting down and people were stranded where they were at

585
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: and so we had to fly them home and get

586
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: them homes in safe places.

587
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: We had to when we go out.

588
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: Into the go to the streets and give people like

589
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: condoms and things that they can.

590
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Take care of theirselfs because everything is closed.

591
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: So we were able to give like really do direct

592
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: service in regard to that, but also because of people's

593
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: performative nature around. You know, Oh, I just want to

594
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: throw money at something just so I can say that

595
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: I supported this thing. We actually got a lot of coins,

596
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: we got we got people.

597
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I hate this, but the George Floyd situation.

598
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was like, Oh, who can we support, Who's black,

599
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: who's marginalized? Let us send money so our bank accountls

600
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: look in love actually open up a shelter and a

601
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: mental health facility, a low cost or no cost mental

602
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 2: health facility for all women, a shelter for because of

603
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: the money that we were able to accumulate because of

604
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: George Floyd's death. Because at the same exact time, Tony McDade,

605
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: a man was murdered by the police in tallahasse and

606
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: the Brionna Taylor, So everything was just kind of happening,

607
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: and we were able to talk about how crazy it

608
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: is that it took George Floyd, a Cis black male

609
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: to actually be murdered for y'all to even think about it.

610
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: When we talk about Brianna Taylor, she happened two weeks

611
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: before George Floyd.

612
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: It won't nobody going to the streets a month before.

613
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: Bonca Hill in Kansas City was on camera a trans woman,

614
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: Bianca Hill, was on camera being beat by two police

615
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: and nobody was saying, so, you know, it's unfortunately, it's

616
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: not that we don't care about sis men, but we

617
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: want to make sure that of course we care.

618
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: Uh. Queer women particularly.

619
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: Are always on the front line when it's time to

620
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: protest and march for y'all. So of course we care.

621
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: So are our actions prove that we care. But also

622
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: but we also want you to do well. We want you,

623
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: we want you to look back and look at all

624
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the people who are affected by police brutality, all the

625
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: people who are affected by the system of racism, all

626
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: the people who are affected by violence for whatever reason.

627
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: And so those things we were able to talk about

628
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: and people were like damn, and their heartstrings were pulled

629
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: and started giving us.

630
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and that's true because it's not reciprocated,

631
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: you know.

632
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: It's it's it's.

633
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: Not that uh uh that that trans people don't trans

634
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: women don't care.

635
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: About black says that men.

636
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: It's the opposite, right, it's that, Oh, no, I expect

637
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: you to be out here for my march.

638
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, So and so got killed.

639
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: Where y'all, where was y'all at you know, that kind

640
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: of ship to the point where if if anybody ever

641
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: says well I don't want march for whatever person, that's

642
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: that becomes his own topic, right, Like if you like

643
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: this Alton Sterling got killed, people were like, well, you

644
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: know he also had sexual assaut in his past, and

645
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable march blah blah blah. I'm not

646
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: judging one way or the other if they felt like marching,

647
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: but it became a story that they weren't gonna march, right,

648
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: and it became like, how dare you not march for him?

649
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: And at the same time, it's like, but you're not

650
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: marching if if you didn't march for Breonna Taylor, like

651
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: Breonna Taylor for a lot of people didn't didn't become

652
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: a big, a big trending topic on Twitter until it

653
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: was like, well, George Floyd became.

654
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: So big, what about Beyonna Taylor?

655
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like the whole reason why say her

656
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: name hashtag was created was because there was a silence

657
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: around black women being murdered by the police, and there

658
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: was no uproar that was happening except when it was

659
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: a cis heap man doing it like you have to

660
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: you have to call that out. And that's the same

661
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: if you look at all the women who were killed

662
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: by police, they got the they started to have these

663
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: big old, big old spotlight put on them because they

664
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: It was in reference to the time.

665
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: Look at Sandra Bland. It was in reference to the

666
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: time that assists man.

667
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: Had got killed, and everybody was like, but why y'all

668
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: saying nothing about her?

669
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Why y'all not saying nothing about her? Why y'all not

670
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: say her name? It literally was created because.

671
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: There was a silence around black women being murdered by

672
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: the cops. Yeah, because I think the service quote unquote

673
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: is expected again as opposed to appreciate it. You know,

674
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: it's like because we value value, the cists had male

675
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: body more than the rest of us. Yep, absolutely, you

676
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: know that's that privilege that that like. And this I

677
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: think it's hard for a lot of times for sis

678
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: had black men to see it because they look at

679
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: the world like or we look at the world like, oh,

680
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: but the white people is coming in me and look

681
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: at this and look at that, and it's like okay.

682
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: But within the community, intra community, look at some of

683
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: the advantages you have.

684
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: It's like, how are you gonna just try to make

685
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: me the bad?

686
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: It's like I have to perpetually be the victim, and

687
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: by perpetually being the victim, I can avoid all accountability,

688
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: all responsibility, everything is. Everybody else is fout. Why didn't y'all,

689
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: you know, fix this for me?

690
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: So we live in a both in world. It doesn't

691
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: have to be either or right. In a both in.

692
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: Your world, you are both oppressed by this system and.

693
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Privileged by this other system.

694
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: You are oppressed by racism and you are privileged by

695
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: your maleness.

696
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: Those things both in and exists.

697
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: So I can, as a person who loves black men,

698
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: I can say, look.

699
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: You are privileged. Your male privileged in this situation is

700
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: showing up. You are being centered.

701
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: You are being the center of when we talk about

702
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: the oppression in police brutality. But when it comes to

703
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: your racism, yes, you are the one who are going

704
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: to get the brunt of the violence from these police officers.

705
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the brunt of the violence. And the

706
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: only different, but the only but we want, what we

707
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: want you to acknowledge is the difference between a black

708
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: woman and a black man is it more than likely,

709
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: not all the time, but more than likely.

710
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: You're just gonna get the physical violence, right, We're gonna

711
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: get the physical violence and the sexual violence, as we

712
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: can see in multiple cases where they have been raping

713
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: and warring us out and you know Daniel eighteen victims later, right,

714
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: dude in Ohio.

715
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: Daniel Holt law, I remember that, motherfucker.

716
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Like and then uh uh we were covering something on

717
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: the show last week where they put a trans woman

718
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: in a male jail the Pacify, So once again, that's

719
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: not that's like, while there is sexual violence of all

720
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: kinds in certain prisons and whatnot, this this was like, Oh,

721
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: we guarantee, we know what's gonna happen with violating our

722
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: own protocols.

723
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Right, I'm not worried about that.

724
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to jail obviously, period, but

725
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: I'm not worried specifically about like, oh, yeah, they put

726
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: me in the room with a rapist because they know

727
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: what's going to happen to me. For no, let me

728
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: let me just do a little bit of education in

729
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: that you since you bring up prison and jail, so

730
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: back in eighty nine eighty nineteen eighty nine, eighty eight

731
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: not there was an inmate named Deve Farmer. The case

732
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: that you should look up if you're looking for it

733
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: is Farmer versus Brenham, and Brenham is the warding of

734
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: the prison that she was in. This is the black

735
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: trans woman who was sent to the Terrorho Indiana prison

736
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: and she was attacked and raped as soon as she

737
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: got there, attacked and raped, and nobody was protecting her.

738
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: So she tried to sue the prison and they kept denying, denying, denying.

739
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: On her last attempt to appeal, ACLU.

740
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: Came in and got on her case and she was

741
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: able to go to the Supreme Court and won her case.

742
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: Her case led to the Prison Rape Elimination Act that

743
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: snowballed into the Violence Against Women Act that snowballed into

744
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: so many acts that protected women and men in the

745
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: justice system. So when we talk about centering the least

746
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: among us, this is a perfect example that people don't

747
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: talk about when we talk about our contributions to the

748
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: bigger picture. When you talk about centering the least among us,

749
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: this is a perfect example of this person, this one

750
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: individual trans woman, when you try to protect her rights,

751
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: all of the things snowball and protect it, reduced it,

752
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: protect women men being raped throughout the whole prison system.

753
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: And so people don't know about that because we don't

754
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: talk about transistory or now.

755
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: But e Farmer versus Brenham check that out. Meanwhile, I

756
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: mean kind of carrying on that tradition. When you were

757
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: talking about getting the money from the what are they

758
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: call racial reckoning of twenty twenty, you know, they love that.

759
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: When you were talking about that, you were like, I'm

760
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: going to open up, you know, mental health clinic for

761
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: all women. So even in that even in that case,

762
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: like you don't have to do that, but at the

763
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: same time, that becomes a resource for everyone, for all

764
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: women in the community, not just only trans women. So

765
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: like like you said, just just trying to start from

766
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: centering people that are at the lowest quote unquote wrong

767
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: of the social, economic, societal point of view, it immediately

768
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: increases everybody. You know, Yes, we could just get you

769
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: the motherfucking white people to understand. You don't have to

770
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: be fully on board either, Like for example, the reason

771
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: why I said, I'm creating a housing facility for trans women,

772
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: but I'm also doing a facility for mental health.

773
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: For all women. The reason why I feel like it's

774
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: important to do.

775
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 3: That is because the narrative around our death, trans women's

776
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: death is that we are either out here tricking people

777
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: or we're out here doing sex work and our clients

778
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 3: are killing us and blah blah blah. But actually, because

779
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: I follow the cases, the amazing Monica Roberts, who was

780
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: a genius in a political genius.

781
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: She followed the cases when she was alive.

782
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: Because when we follow the cases outside of the sensationalism,

783
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: So when we file out what happens after you know,

784
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: who gets arrested, what does the police say happen? What

785
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: we find out is our deaths actually aligned with the

786
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: same statistics assisting of women when it's particular black women.

787
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: When we talk about what is one of the leading

788
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: calls of death for black women is intimate partner homicide.

789
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: The CDC realise every year, the research every year, and

790
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: it's all ready for you to see gold CDC and

791
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: search for into mere partner homicide and violence. We are

792
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: being attacked by the people who we date, and we

793
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: are the least likely today that's side of our race,

794
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: right right, So we are being murdered.

795
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: By our own people. Our own men, and so.

796
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: I feel like because we both have skin in the

797
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: game assisting to women and transgender women. Because we both

798
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: have skin in this game, you don't need to agree

799
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: with me or whatever, blah blah blah blah.

800
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: But because we are all.

801
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: Being murdered by folks and we are at risk, we

802
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: can come together and figure this out together.

803
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: Since we both have this.

804
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: If we had a vinningram, we have something in common.

805
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: Right here a mean diagram, We got something in common.

806
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: So let's work on our similarities. Yes, you can if

807
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: you want to hate on me, and you can focus

808
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: on the fact that I don't have a period.

809
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: You can focus on the fact that I can't have children.

810
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: You can focus on the fact on all I can't misstraight,

811
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: or I wasn't born how you was born. You can

812
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: focus on all those differences. But Babby, I want to

813
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: focus on our similarities, because our similarities what's getting us killed.

814
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: So let's focus on our similarities so that.

815
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: We can solve this problem and then we can talk

816
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: about the difference later. But if you actually because we

817
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: talked about this early, if you actually can get to

818
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: know me and start being invested in caring about me,

819
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: those differences won't even matter.

820
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: No, they won't. And what's so funny about what you

821
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: just said.

822
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: There are straight.

823
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: Women who don't have periods, have had their breast removed,

824
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: like like, and and that's funny. Once you really get

825
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 5: down to the to the foundation of it, it's like, hey, doll,

826
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: you are talking about something that at the end of

827
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: the day, it does not matter because we're all oppressed.

828
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: It's like, I.

829
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: See you, you see me, you feel my pain, I

830
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: feel your pain. And the thing is if I protect

831
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: you and you protect me, and we protect each other,

832
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 5: we are a stronger force.

833
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: And I think that that is the thing about it.

834
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: People don't want they love the divisions because with the divisions,

835
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: you can divide and conquer. If these groups set their

836
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: differences to the side and be like, you know what,

837
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: as a collective.

838
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: We're pretty powerful.

839
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: And if we come forward and we start demanding things,

840
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 5: and we'll start reaching out and we're gonna know this,

841
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: this don't affect me, but I'm gonna fight for you

842
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 5: because guess what if the law passes for you, I

843
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: benefit from. It's like people don't fare to realize me

844
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 5: advocating on your behalf benefits me.

845
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: You advocating on my behalf benefits you know me.

846
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: It's a vice versa thing, and I think that's very

847
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 5: hard for people to understand. And it's one of those

848
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 5: things where where I thought about it and I was like, well, hey,

849
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 5: you know, as any women talk about all the time,

850
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: I've had hysterectomy, which means you don't have a period

851
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 5: or anything, you.

852
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: Don't have oildren.

853
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can't have children.

854
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 5: And I guess the way my mind functions, the difference,

855
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: it's women who have their breast removed all the time.

856
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 5: What's the difference, Like the way I function, I do

857
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 5: not see a different but for some reason, because it's

858
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: you're a woman, a quote unquote what they claim a

859
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: woman is, it's a difference.

860
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: But from in my mind, there is no difference, right.

861
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: And we know when it comes to femininity in womanhood

862
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: Black women particularly, it's always when it comes it always

863
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: has been arbitrary ways that we have been pushed.

864
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: Out of womanhood.

865
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: So let me give you like this ladder of ridiculous,

866
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: arbitrary things that I hear community say. So in the

867
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: trans community, we hear you know, trans girls saying, oh

868
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: if you ain't got titties, you're not a woman.

869
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

870
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: Then we hear another okay, I got titties. Oh if

871
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: you ain't got you ain't when and got your sex change,

872
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: you're not a woman.

873
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: Okay, go get a sex change.

874
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: Then the sister and women are going to say, oh,

875
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: if you weren't born with it, you're not a woman.

876
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

877
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: So this one, oh you can't have babies. This this, this,

878
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: this is sis. Woman would say, oh, you're not a

879
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: woman until you have you're able.

880
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: To have babies.

881
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: Like that's the that's the quintessential thing that is a

882
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: woman is for. And then okay, I have all these babies,

883
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: and then another woman, But you gotta get married, baby,

884
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: you gotta have a family unied, you gotta have a husband.

885
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: You can't da da da da da da.

886
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: It's always these crazy things to stop you for being

887
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: the peak of womanhood. The peak of this is always

888
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: like a line a ladder of what It's just ridiculous

889
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: and silly and does not do what we needed to do.

890
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: It does not It does not help us dismantled patriarchy.

891
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: It does not help us disman for white supremacy. It

892
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: does not do any of those things.

893
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: So why are we invested in these arbitrary rules, and

894
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: why are we not expanding? If we were expanding what

895
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: womanhood could be and what manhood could be a lot

896
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: of people will be way, way, way more comfortable in

897
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: their skin and you will actually have less people transitioning.

898
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: I feel if if what womanhood is and manhood was

899
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 3: actually expanded, a lot of people could be comfortable sitting

900
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: where they are, wherever they fall in the various gray areas.

901
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 3: But you don't want to expand those things so people

902
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: can be invested in ooh these changes. Yeah, people like

903
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: their privilege within the system, you know, even you know

904
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: that's It's like it's like how white people will be

905
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: doing terrible in their state and vote Republican just because

906
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: in their mind they're like, I'm not a nigger though,

907
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: So I mean, sure, we're all fucking freezing and the

908
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: powers out that. Okay, I voted for the people that

909
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: did that, and I'm okay with that, But the niggers

910
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: are freezing first, and they're tropical people, so I'm gonna

911
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: just vote for this nigga again. Like that's that, Like

912
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: they believe that even within the community, you have that

913
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: because I you know, I think what people think of transphobia. Obviously,

914
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: most people think of the violence, right, which is clearly

915
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: a one uh.

916
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: You know, if you had to make a docket.

917
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: But then they're also this thing where people invest in

918
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: the transphobia that are cist gender women. You know, like

919
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: you'll see that kind of like what exclusionary ship where

920
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: it's like but if you look at the dudes that

921
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 2: are as you said, like that are being violent, they

922
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. Like it's not like, yeah, it's

923
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: not like they're like, oh, I was killing this person,

924
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: but you you my queen, Okay, you I'm a treat.

925
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: It's like if I'm a killer, if I'm a killer

926
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: of people that I love that i'm in relationship with,

927
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm a killer.

928
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: You know, he's not like but yeah that What was.

929
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: It like in Texas by the way, during the cold

930
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: the cold freeze? What I did?

931
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Is there a name for what that was? The Texas freeze? Yeah?

932
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: It was scary. I can just say it was scary.

933
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: And these type of situations for me, really puts a

934
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 2: spotlight on the privileges that I have. So because I'm

935
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: I'm an executive director or organization. My organization was like, hey,

936
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: we can get you a hotel room. There was people

937
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: who don't have that privilege. Because I have built community

938
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: in the trans community and have friends even though I

939
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: didn't have lights.

940
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: I have friends that come and knock on my door, Hey,

941
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: what's going on?

942
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Knock and knock and knock, and we ain't heard from you,

943
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: We ain't seeing you post what's going on? And my

944
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: phone was dead, power was out. I had candles in

945
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: my house.

946
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: But I had a community that would come and check

947
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: up on me and let me charge my phone in

948
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: their cars. There's some people who don't have that community,

949
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: who don't have that. And so Mia and Z was like, hey,

950
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: we found a place that's open.

951
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: It got food, texting me saying, hey, this place is open.

952
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: Target is open.

953
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: I have built this network of community and everybody don't

954
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 3: have that. And what if you talk to any mental

955
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: health professional that community is important.

956
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: For you to survive.

957
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: That's important for your it like if you are dealing

958
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: with addiction, it's important for your recovery.

959
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: It's important for it.

960
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: So many things about your life that communities is important.

961
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: And so having that community and having it focused in

962
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: that kind of way let me know that that is

963
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: a privilege of mine, and so how can I so

964
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: what I did in that moment once I got myself

965
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: together and I was in, Okay, my shit is together.

966
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: Who don't have no water? Have we heard from this person?

967
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: Have we heard from this older trans elder who may

968
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: not be friends with everybody?

969
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: Have we heard?

970
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: So Al was bringing water to some of the trans

971
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: elders who have been locked in their house, you know,

972
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: and bring I used to work for back and body work,

973
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: so I have like a million like my whole pantry

974
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: is clear flud with candles.

975
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: Yes, so I was bringing them candles because you know,

976
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: it was keeping me warm. So of course if I

977
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: bring it to somebody else, that can keep them warm.

978
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: And so that's what I was kind of trying to

979
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: do and thinking about my own privilege and people who

980
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: I might think may not have it.

981
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: I haven't. And so yeah, I was trying to do.

982
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: And this is one of them things that you.

983
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: Can't just throw money at, right, You can't just say

984
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: here's the money.

985
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: It actually you know, we actually had to.

986
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: Literally go knock on people's doors, Hey are you in there?

987
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: You ain't died of hypothermia? Or nothing, what's going on?

988
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: And you don't.

989
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: Understand how amazing they said that made them feel like

990
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: somebody actually knowing them well enough to come take care,

991
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: to come care for them, to check and see what's

992
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: going on.

993
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a totally tangential question, but do

994
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: you still have a hookup on bathroom body works candles?

995
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: Like is there a code or something?

996
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: So always buy bathroom body work candles when they are

997
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: on sale and get your ten dollars off of thirty.

998
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: That's the best time that you're gonna have. All right,

999
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: See I was doing that, but.

1000
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't have the hookup. I did not leave on

1001
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: good terms. Okay, okay, I understood. Is that that's why

1002
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: you got so many candles? I'm re high terrible, but

1003
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: it was a good time. It's like, listen, I have

1004
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: cabinets full of candles for a reason. Okay, I'm just saying.

1005
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: I do love theyselves though I'm basic like that. But

1006
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: also in Texas, you know from Afar, we're in North Carolina,

1007
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: so I experienced Texas the way that most people probably

1008
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: experience it through the ground.

1009
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: What is it like down there?

1010
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: Because I have it's like nothing closed.

1011
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: Well, I hear, well, see that's the thing you hear

1012
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: through the news and stuff. And I think this happens

1013
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: a lot with sensationalism. It's like, oh, Texas is wide open,

1014
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 2: they ain't doing shit.

1015
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Just everything is is whatever.

1016
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: But then if you pay attention to the stories and

1017
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: you like you see close on the ground, like there

1018
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: was a restaurant where they were people got mad at

1019
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: the restaurant because the people in the restaurants like wear

1020
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: a fucking mask or were not serving you. And it

1021
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: was a Mexican restaurant and people was being racist like

1022
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna call uh, We're gonna call ice on y'all

1023
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: and shit. And it was like, so clearly this mask

1024
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: this no mask mandate thing, it's not one. So what

1025
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: is the like experience like in Texas for you?

1026
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: God? So it has been wild.

1027
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: So you gotta understand you have a lot of stuff

1028
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: overlapped here in Texas. You got the LATINX community, so

1029
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: you got the immigration and all the ice and all

1030
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: those kinds of situations over political situations overlap.

1031
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: You also have this is a big ass state. So

1032
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: people when you see red, it is because of the

1033
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: rural areas that you were gonna see red. All of

1034
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: the cities in Texas are blue. All of the cities,

1035
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: like everybody everywhere else, the cities are blue. So the

1036
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: mindset in the city is not the mindset in the rule.

1037
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: So that's why in the cities Biden and commit all

1038
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: their buses is not tripping. But when they go through

1039
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: the country and got to ride the road up to Dallas,

1040
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: that's when you gonna see the Trump supporters coming out

1041
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: with the flack an Federate flag. When you get out

1042
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: in the backwoods, you know, well they don't barely bay you.

1043
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna get those people.

1044
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: Yes, you're gonna have some you know, conservatives and Republicans

1045
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: issues like that.

1046
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is people.

1047
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: I remember I went to the doctor last Monday and

1048
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: the person in front of me there was a person

1049
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: sitting down with their mask off, a white.

1050
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: Man of course, of course, and.

1051
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 3: The person in front of me says, sir, can you

1052
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 3: put your mask on? Like this is a mask facility,

1053
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 3: this is another patron, this is not a worker.

1054
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: And he was like.

1055
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: Sure and just said sure, but didn't put his mask on.

1056
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: So they called that person up. So I go up

1057
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: and I was like excuse me. This person asked this

1058
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: person to put their masks on, and still he did

1059
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 3: not put his mask on, Like, you don't understand why

1060
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: y'all letting this happening. So then they go out and

1061
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: tell him put your mask on. Store are you're gonna

1062
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: have to leave?

1063
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: So we have these things happening throughout Texas where there's

1064
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: some people who don't give a fuck, and then there's

1065
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: some people that actually do give a fuck. So just

1066
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: like everywhere, it's not just I know, the South particularly

1067
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: has this because of the history of racism and the

1068
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: history of you know, how bold racism can be down here.

1069
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: It's it's you we go through the same stuff, the

1070
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: same car and stuff, the same.

1071
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: Right entitlement that white men have up there. It's the

1072
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: same entitlement that they have down here.

1073
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: It's just a little bit bolder.

1074
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: Down But even that, like I, you know, I ain't

1075
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 3: never been called a nigger to my face in the South.

1076
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: I got called a nigger in my face in Chicago.

1077
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't.

1078
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: You know, I've had more racist direct racist situation happened

1079
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 3: in in up northern cities.

1080
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: Because in the South, we say segregated, we don't walk

1081
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: with them.

1082
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: They don't funk with us like you ever, Like, we

1083
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: don't hang out with white people like that. We're not

1084
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: we're not in a lot of mixed companies by choice,

1085
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: but you know we it's not a lot of mixed

1086
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: company happening. It's like when you accidentally go to the

1087
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: wrong church. You be like, oh, I ain't got no

1088
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: in the South, no business in here. Yeah in the South.

1089
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: You know immediately it's like the banjo stops. You're like, oh, oh,

1090
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: y'all got.

1091
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all have a good way. I didn't know it

1092
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: was like that.

1093
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: I know you walk. Oh y'all got an organ? Oh

1094
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 4: and not a keyboard and a drama set?

1095
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: I ain't, but yeah, it's also crazy about the organ.

1096
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: Colchin folks got organs and.

1097
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 4: And and and and ain't.

1098
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: Gonna be a tweaking clock up in there sometimes.

1099
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: And it ain't not wrong with an organ.

1100
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 5: But like when you go to like your smaller churches

1101
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: and you walk up in there, you be like, you

1102
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 5: know what.

1103
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: If they don't have a drum set, Yeah, a drum set,

1104
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: come on every if nothing else, okay, we can make

1105
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: it happen.

1106
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 5: Come on, you come in there. You got somebody with

1107
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 5: a guitar, you like, you know what? I think I

1108
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 5: came to the right place.

1109
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: We can we can make it work on the tues

1110
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: and poones. Okay, come on, been like y'all.

1111
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 4: Ain't got no tamoorines. I don't think I deserve to

1112
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: be here.

1113
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 5: Nope.

1114
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: Everybody everybody i'll see in public, especially a white per

1115
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: white dude, anybody i'll see without a mask, I just

1116
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: consider it a move. I don't even no benefit of

1117
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: the doubt from me. I don't assume you forgot I

1118
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: just look at you like and I'm gonna move twenty

1119
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: feet away because I know your ass got it.

1120
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: Okay, you think.

1121
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: You think you've proven something to somebody fucking with COVID.

1122
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't even see the point.

1123
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: I got my We got our shots yesterday, so we

1124
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: uh the first one in you way, and it was

1125
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: a pretty straight experience.

1126
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: We had to be in the car. First of all.

1127
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: I should have known some bullshit because it was like, Yo,

1128
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: your appointments are one fifteen.

1129
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: I said, I don't see nothing on this thing about

1130
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: come early. It's gonna be a line. I'm like you

1131
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: sure you sure?

1132
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: It's like just be the one fifteen. We get that

1133
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: one fifteen line up the block. It was a drive

1134
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: through clinic, so it was just like you get it,

1135
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: get in your car, and then you just slowly move

1136
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: towards the top. So you know, I wasn't tripping. They

1137
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: told us, like, cause I live in this my brain

1138
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: is very much one of.

1139
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: This shit ain't gonna go. Ho Hey, y'all said, it's

1140
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna go all the time.

1141
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the fuck. You can give me

1142
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: an airplane ticket. I'm like, this shit ain't gonna go

1143
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna up.

1144
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 4: And I'm the opposite.

1145
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 5: That's why we balance each other out because I'm like,

1146
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: y'all sad this shiit supposed.

1147
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: To supposed like we got out the car to go check,

1148
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: like I'm really just going through the motions for karense

1149
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: like please cause I'm like, oh, so we should just

1150
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: go get in the back of the line.

1151
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: But Karen's like, let's go talk to them, and then

1152
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm like all.

1153
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 4: This, I want confirmation, don't tell waste the mask.

1154
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: Like, let's take the five minutes for these niggas to

1155
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: tell us to get in this line.

1156
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: So we did. We took the.

1157
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: Five minutes and then we waited like an hour or

1158
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: some change to get the shot or whatever.

1159
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: But you know, as you'll can see, we got Firezer. Yeah,

1160
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: yeah we did.

1161
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 5: So.

1162
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't know fizer By on Tech. I think it's

1163
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: the name of it.

1164
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 5: And you know, I didn't know they was set. So

1165
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 5: everybody claiming, they said, you got Johnson and Johnson them,

1166
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 5: and everybody was like, what set you claim I was like,

1167
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 5: I didn't know.

1168
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't set.

1169
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 4: I just wanted a shot. I didn't give a funk

1170
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: which one it is. One, dude, just shoot me.

1171
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get them all, honestly, I'm trying to

1172
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: collect all these joints. So I'm sneaking into Johnson and

1173
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: Johnson line after this, Uh, what's the other joint, Maderna.

1174
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm sneaking in Maderna. You know what I'm saying.

1175
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm awake.

1176
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: You know, like six months on the list, I ain't

1177
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: got no shots and I've been one. I'm like, yo,

1178
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: can I give my head please? That's the other that's

1179
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: the other bullshit of the media hyping up like a

1180
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: whole lot of people don't even want the shot, and

1181
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: people are scared have you seen the.

1182
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 5: List, right, It's impossible to get stock x out here

1183
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 5: for these one.

1184
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: Fucking they're just trying to pretend to be walk online.

1185
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: They in them lines getting them shot.

1186
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: It's like me and everybody I know trying to get one.

1187
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: I just have questions. I'm like, nigga, I see your

1188
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: arm got a band aid on it. You ain't got

1189
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: no questions, You.

1190
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Aren't sore. And ship, you know you ain't got that thing.

1191
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: So, speaking of religion, what is black trans Faith?

1192
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 5: You know?

1193
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: I saw you Ah a board.

1194
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: Member of Transpaith as well. Right, it's not black trans

1195
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: my friends.

1196
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: Here I go adding black the ship is what I

1197
00:59:52,440 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: do everything black but trans Faith is an organization that started.

1198
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: Back in ninety nine. It started back at like back

1199
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: in the day in the nineties by a non binary

1200
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: white trans person by the name of Chris Page.

1201
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 4: And they.

1202
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: Their vision was for if you are of any religious sector,

1203
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, Buddhist, Muslim, Christian, whatever, and you wanted

1204
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: to be inclusive when it comes to trans people, and

1205
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: you wanted to know how to do it. You wanted

1206
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: to know how to integrate through your faith through you,

1207
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: through your scriptures or your Bible, whatever you use. If

1208
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 3: you want to know how we can you can integrate and.

1209
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: Reach the people in our community. We come in and say, hey,

1210
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: let me show you how to do that.

1211
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: Let me show you how to be more inclusive. Let

1212
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: me let me show you how to be more inclusive

1213
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: in your church. And so we pull out scriptures. We

1214
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: pull out because what people don't know is that there's

1215
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: there's scriptures like, for example, let me think, I think

1216
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: it's Matthew nineteen twelve. Let me double check either nineteen

1217
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: twelve or twelve nineteen, something like that, where we talk

1218
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: about the Unich, and the Bible says Jesus this is

1219
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: Jesus words says that when you if you choose the

1220
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: path of now everybody.

1221
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: Unich is somebody that.

1222
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: Kind of the definition, the up to date definition is

1223
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: castrated male.

1224
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: They had a certain function back in the day.

1225
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 3: The Bible says, if you choose the path of a Unich,

1226
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: there are units who were born that way. So anybody

1227
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: who's saying people are just born male and female, it's

1228
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 3: literally in the Bible it says that there are Unichs

1229
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: who are born out of the womb as eunuchs. And

1230
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: then it says there are people who are made to

1231
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: be eunix by other people. So we know back in

1232
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: the day people turned people into Eunis, and then there

1233
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: are people who turn themselves into eunichs the for the

1234
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 3: kingdom of God. So they wanted to be celibate, they

1235
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: wanted to be no sex or are whatever in that middle.

1236
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Ground, so they did it to themselves.

1237
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: And at the end of the scripture, Jesus says, whoever

1238
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 3: accepts this path, accept it.

1239
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: So whatever one it is, whether you're born this way,

1240
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: create yourself this way.

1241
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: Or somebody created as your way, if this is the

1242
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: path that you want to go for the Kingdom of Christ,

1243
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: and you, however, whatever you can be this way.

1244
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: So for me, that gives.

1245
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: An opening that one scripture to me, there's other scriptures,

1246
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: but that it gives are opening for you to understand

1247
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: that there is not just in the way that we

1248
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: are born. It is not just two ways male and female.

1249
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 3: There are people, there are great areas. Plus science has

1250
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: proven that there are.

1251
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: People who are born a certain certain way that are

1252
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: outside of the parameters of male and female. So if

1253
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: you want to be acceptable to these people, you want

1254
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: to be not acceptable to accept these people.

1255
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 1: Our organization comes in.

1256
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: And helps you learn how to do that. And so

1257
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: that's what transfaith is. It's multiple people are involved in transfaith,

1258
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: multiple denominations, from.

1259
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: Jewish to Christian, to Muslim to E five African Beutibral

1260
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: African traditional religion. It's so many people involved in this

1261
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: in this space that we actually, you know, if you

1262
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: want to come and talk to us and have us

1263
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: come in and teach you how to be inclusive, we

1264
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: can do that because there are tons of preachers and

1265
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: people in religious spaces that want to do it and

1266
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: they just don't know how. You come to us and say, hey,

1267
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: and I find that God is as limited as imagination

1268
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: or the bigotry of the people worshiping.

1269
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: Right, Like the Pope the other day.

1270
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: The Pope was like, uh, we can't, not the Pope,

1271
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church, we can't be blessing gay marriages. God

1272
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: can't do that. I'm like, I mean, y'all believe you can.

1273
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Talk to him. Y'all believe like y'all believe he can

1274
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: do all this shit.

1275
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: But then that's the one time he's like, oh, I

1276
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: ain't got nothing know of Just coincidentally.

1277
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 5: Right, here's where I draw my line over everything he

1278
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 5: can do.

1279
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: But you tell me he can do anything but fail.

1280
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 4: Why does he fail? Right here?

1281
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: I believe he literally created the world in seven days.

1282
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: But blessing marriages our you know how you do? You

1283
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: know it's crazy to us too, like it's it seemed like,

1284
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: and then it's like, well, it's coincidentally the same bigotry

1285
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: as you hold that he can't do. Right, It's like, okay,

1286
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, neither here nor there. You know, I hate

1287
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: gay people and my God does too. I'm like, oh,

1288
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: isn't that interesting because there's other people within your religion

1289
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: that don't hate gay people and don't believe God hates

1290
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: gay people.

1291
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1292
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a different church of the street. They got

1293
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: an organ you know, it's a little they gotta.

1294
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 5: They bought the tamarines out, and we was like, you

1295
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 5: know what, we went until you get the tamarines. Then

1296
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 5: we was no, they clap on the toos and fols.

1297
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 5: We was like, not in my sanct you wherever you

1298
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 5: got to go.

1299
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then your music and then the irony of

1300
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: the whole situation.

1301
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: When we talk about the Catholic Church, this is a

1302
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: very conservative sector of it. This conservative wave is actually new,

1303
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: not new as any, it's not being around for centuries.

1304
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: But actually the white people who were colonizing the United States,

1305
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: they actually was the conservative Europeans. They actually was the

1306
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: Puritans were coming over here to run away from the

1307
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: Catholic Church because they felt the Catholic Church was more

1308
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: progressive back then, the Catholic it was the the they

1309
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: were the ones that were being, you know, progressive. It

1310
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: turned into this conservatism after after centuries, but they were

1311
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: actually running from that progression in in religion when they

1312
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Speaker 3: came over here and colonized us.

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Speaker 2: If you ever read about some of them old religious motherfuckers,

1314
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: they crazy like Calvinist and shit.

1315
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: They was like these niggas listening to music beat some people.

1316
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: It's like, god, damn, like, what's happening here? And I

1317
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: know the music couldn't even have slapped.

1318
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 3: Back Native Americans. Native Americans. They's like, y'all got two

1319
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: spirit people?

1320
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Speaker 4: Right? What killed everybody?

1321
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: Like, it's just like, damn, y'all hardcore? Right? This woman

1322
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: out here ain't getting married.

1323
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 5: She a witch?

1324
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: Earn this bitch? Like, what is wrong to you? Oh

1325
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: my god?

1326
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why America so fucked up man, the people

1327
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: that founded it, all the work founded it, the people

1328
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: that stole it, all the worst people.

1329
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 5: It's like, it's like it was already hearing that it

1330
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 5: wouldn't lost, so it didn't need to be found.

1331
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Speaker 2: They was like, send over all the religious nuts, all

1332
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: the thieves, all.

1333
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: They were just like, send the ass out of here.

1334
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: Good luck.

1335
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: I hope y'all find some things, and then you know,

1336
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: and and then it doesn't make And that's why I'm like,

1337
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: you can't even really feel bad that they stole America

1338
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: from the British and the Native Americans, because I'm like,

1339
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: what did y'all expect y'all sit the worst people over here?

1340
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: Was like, so y'all just gonna sit on all that

1341
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: land and not do give nothing back.

1342
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: Yes, nigga, we are bad people. You knew that.

1343
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 5: And you know what, By the way, fuck your tea, right,

1344
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

1345
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: We'll name a couple of cities after y'all come.

1346
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: You can have Charlotte. This is Mechlenburg County. And by

1347
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: the way, we're keeping all the money, so just letting

1348
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: you just letting.

1349
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: Y'all be paying nobody taxes.

1350
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: What was it? What was it?

1351
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: Like making the Route one hundred last year, and like,

1352
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: is that like a big production behind the scenes where

1353
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: they hit you up like you made it?

1354
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 4: Oh?

1355
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: Man?

1356
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: So yes, they do hit you up and they tell

1357
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: you any. Well, for me, they told me that I

1358
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: was in the.

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Speaker 1: Last list of people. So it's it's a it's a

1360
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: list that narrows down.

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 2: Wow, and so and so once I got to the

1362
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: last list of people, they hit me up and warned

1363
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: me that it could be potential.

1364
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: And then they hit me up and said you made it.

1365
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: And so you know what's up.

1366
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: It's just it's what's amazing, it's just being acknowledged by

1367
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: your own people. I am a proud black woman. I

1368
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: was raised black, I was you know, people think I'm

1369
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: bi racial.

1370
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: I am not my mom and daddy black.

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: Everybody black from Mississippi, Indiana, we hood ratchet poor. That's

1372
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: just what all those things informed.

1373
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,799
Speaker 1: Who I am. And I am a proud black woman.

1374
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: And so being.

1375
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: Being in a space where your own folks are celebrating you,

1376
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: I can't even I can't even describe that, you know,

1377
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 3: because you know the stereotype.

1378
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 6: Is, oh, black folks are so conservative, they don't accept

1379
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 6: this da da da da da day. Look, I wouldn't

1380
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 6: be who I am if I didn't have the support

1381
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 6: of black people that white people were not.

1382
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 3: In my community. I had queer black people. I had cisgendered,

1383
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 3: straight black people supporting me, letting me sometimes letting me

1384
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: live on their couch, sometimes making connections that I wouldn't

1385
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 3: have made if I didn't.

1386
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: So it is the community of.

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: Blackness that really allowed me to succeed and be in

1388
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: the spot that I am.

1389
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 4: Now.

1390
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: Have there been some assholes, fuck yeah, but they're also.

1391
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: Have I I had.

1392
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: I had one old lady who didn't like trans people

1393
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: at all.

1394
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: Well, call me he She.

1395
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: Would be so rude and misgender me blah blah blah

1396
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

1397
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: But when I needed something to eat, honey, she fed me.

1398
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 3: When I when I when when it was time, when

1399
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: somebody was trying to rape me on a back in

1400
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 3: this car, she came out with her broom and was.

1401
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: Trying to stop him from raping me.

1402
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: It's so many situations nuances that I'm just just My

1403
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: life doesn't allow me to be anti black in a

1404
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: way to make a generalize black people to where.

1405
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the black community just want to accept this.

1406
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 1: You a damn lie.

1407
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: We've seen ministers of music, We've seen queer people be

1408
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 3: involved in spaces. We're not gonna erase the Bayard. We're

1409
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: not gonna erase the marsh B. Johnson's. We're not gonna

1410
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: erase the Polymerye. We're not gonna erase the people who

1411
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 3: have been fighting alongside of us. We're not gonna even

1412
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 3: There's so many people like even like a side of Shaqour.

1413
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 3: I remember I recently talked to one of her people,

1414
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 3: and when she ran away from home at one time

1415
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: she stayed with a trans woman, like when she was

1416
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 3: running away from home.

1417
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: So we are a part of the fabric.

1418
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: We are a part queer people are a part of

1419
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: the fabric of community.

1420
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: And so you're not about to get me to.

1421
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 3: Think that my or believe that my organization not my organization,

1422
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: but my community is not does not accept who I am,

1423
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: or does not does not show up for me when

1424
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: I need them, so because I would not be here

1425
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: if they didn't.

1426
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,839
Speaker 1: Black folks have always been in my corner.

1427
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 3: Has there been some negative, absolutely, but there also being

1428
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: some beautiful ones that looked out for me when I

1429
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: had nobody else.

1430
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1431
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: I think also is that, like you said, it's like

1432
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 2: a low key form of anti blackness that people do

1433
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: because what they're really saying is black the black community.

1434
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: Is less accepting them the white community.

1435
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, my lived right, my lived experience in

1436
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: America proved that that is a lie. If I look

1437
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: at the people who are voting against all the all

1438
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: the laws that are voting for the laws that these

1439
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: trans aggressive bills that are like, uh, we care so

1440
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: much about women's track in high school. Now okay, I

1441
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: don't know if you knew this, but it's our number

1442
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: one pastime and we need to protect the children.

1443
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck.

1444
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: When did this happen? But you go look at who's

1445
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: voting for that up in a bunch of white people.

1446
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: I remember when marriage equality the proposition in past in California,

1447
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: and this is the first thing that really hit me

1448
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: the game was they were like, well, the black people

1449
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: are just very homophobic and they wouldn't.

1450
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: Vote for this.

1451
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, did black people take buses of of

1452
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: their of their religious constituents from Utah to California? Because

1453
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: I did see the church alatterday saying so whoever the

1454
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: fuck it was, I saw.

1455
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: Them do that.

1456
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: Did they lobby and against the bill? Did they you know, like,

1457
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: let's look, let's look at the money, let's look at

1458
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: the impact. It is not to excuse any of that

1459
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: within the community, but this idea of like we'd all

1460
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: be fine if it wasn't for the black people is

1461
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 2: some real like weird.

1462
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,879
Speaker 1: Also, and it doesn't take it doesn't take.

1463
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 3: Black conservative off the hook, particularly the Black church.

1464
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: We know, and this is somebody who grew up in

1465
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: the church. I know that y'all can be.

1466
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 3: Just as treacherous, just as support supportive of negative stuff.

1467
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 3: And forget that the white supremacy in Christianity is intertwined

1468
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: in this country. And so when you align with them,

1469
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 3: when you got when that's why, you know, it gets

1470
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: real shaky when you talk about the people who are

1471
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: aligned with Trump when it comes to Christianity. When you

1472
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: got to hear the Mary Mary's like, oh you aligned

1473
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: with Trump? You got to hear it gets real witchy

1474
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: because you know, white supremacy and Christianity is altogether.

1475
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: What I learned early on is that's a sector. No no, no.

1476
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: I just.

1477
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: To make sure I was saying what I needed to say.

1478
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: There is a sector that is conservative of the black community.

1479
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 3: There is a sector that is going to be anti trans,

1480
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: anti queer, anti gay, anti sex worker, anti woman, very

1481
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: very patriarchal.

1482
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: There is a sector.

1483
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: But the majority, I feel are going even if they

1484
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: don't agree everything, we still are going to align with,

1485
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: you know, pro blackness because we know and I'm not

1486
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: one of them people that feel like, oh my I

1487
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: was black first. I come through the door with all

1488
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: my identities at the same damn time, and I'm not

1489
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: gonna put none of that shit on the back burner.

1490
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: Everything is coming through the door, and you're gonna deal

1491
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: with everything at the same time.

1492
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: My blackness is not coming first.

1493
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 3: My womanhood is not coming first, My queerness is not

1494
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 3: coming first, my transness is not coming first. Everything is

1495
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 3: coming at one time, and you're gonna be held accountable

1496
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 3: for dealing with it when I come through the door.

1497
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 1: So I'm not one of those people.

1498
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: But most of the people in the black community that

1499
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 3: I have experienced, they they know that I'm black, they

1500
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 3: know that we align, we align with the same things,

1501
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 3: and so we're gonna vote in our in our interests.

1502
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 3: It's not good I just haven't seen that to be

1503
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: the majority. There is a sector, I gotta say, there's absolutely,

1504
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: but it's not the majority.

1505
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 2: And I and that's the thing that was interesting to

1506
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: me is how people skape up at because it's not

1507
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 2: like I don't believe in protecting those folks.

1508
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe in community with those folks all that shit.

1509
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's always been this weird

1510
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: like if it wasn't for these conservative black people, I mean,

1511
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: we would have got a utopia about now. I'm like that,

1512
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: don't the way that power works in this country that

1513
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: don't seem to add up? Like, you know, when have

1514
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: you ever been like, once the black people get through

1515
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: with it, you know, we're gonna go ahead and open

1516
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: everything up, y'all ain't never been like that.

1517
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 5: When you look at the percentage of the population, you go, yo,

1518
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 5: you go, your math don't add up. You know, we

1519
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 5: didn't you talking about California, We didn't invest billions of

1520
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 5: dollars in donations to these people to keep this shit going.

1521
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 5: You go down these lists, these a lot of white organizations, right.

1522
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: So it's just interesting how that I just remember that narrative.

1523
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it happens out there every election, right, even

1524
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: if Democrats lose in the places, always like, what did

1525
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: the black people do wrong? I'm like, I didn't you

1526
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: motherfuckers vote for this guy? Like I mean other than

1527
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: us voting for him? Yes, that is I guess a

1528
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: fair assessment. Other than that, why didn't one hundred percent

1529
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: of black people vote and vote Democrats? That's all we're asking.

1530
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: It's kind of your fault.

1531
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 5: And that math still doesn't make sense because in order

1532
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 5: to get any progression, no matter what your what your

1533
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 5: issue is, white people have got to join the push

1534
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 5: in America.

1535
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: Got to how long has Marsh's Plate the podcast? How

1536
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: long have y'all been doing it? And how did you

1537
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 1: meet your co host?

1538
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: So Marsh's Plate started in October of twenty seventeen. Well,

1539
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: it was upposed the story, It was opposed to start earlier,

1540
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: like around July, but I had some shift in.

1541
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: Who my hosts were going to be. So I started off.

1542
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be three big, plus size black

1543
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: trans women.

1544
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: I was gonna be the light skinned, there was gonna

1545
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: be a brown one, and there was gonna be a

1546
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 2: dark one. I was gonna have just a array of

1547
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: color it was I just had this vision.

1548
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be like some destiny child. Okay, I see, yes,

1549
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: the Weather Girls come on Hodey. So it was gonna

1550
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: be fire. So one of.

1551
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: The girls was all nervous about taking pictures that I

1552
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 2: wanted to set up to do the promotion.

1553
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: The other girl she was having financial issue, she had

1554
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 3: to move to Philadelphia. It just these two people just

1555
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 3: it just was.

1556
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: Like not coming together right. And so I had already

1557
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: met Mia, and so I hit up Mia and I

1558
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: was like, hey, y'all, would you like to be on

1559
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 2: a podcast? And she was like sure. I was like,

1560
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: I just got to find another trans person. She was like, oh,

1561
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: well I know this guy, this trans guy who would

1562
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 2: be involved. She had just met him, and so I said, oh, well,

1563
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 2: bring him over to the house. Because me and Mia

1564
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: had known each other for like ten years. I was like,

1565
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: bring him over to.

1566
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: The house and see how we all five see, you know,

1567
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 3: come together. And so when they came over. When they

1568
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 3: came over, we all vibed and I was.

1569
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: Like, oh, well, this can be it.

1570
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: This can be cute because we have two trans women

1571
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: and a trans man I haven't seen really at this point.

1572
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know. There weren't any black.

1573
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 3: Podcast trans podcasts in twenty seventeenth that I knew of,

1574
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 3: And so I was like, Okay, well, all right, let's

1575
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: do it.

1576
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: And so I did a test run. It worked out

1577
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: and boom.

1578
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: Now I told them when we recorded, I said, we

1579
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 3: all high yellow motherfuckers, y'all too bride racial.

1580
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, and we're gonna be talking this

1581
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: black shit. Oh, we gonna get dragged in the.

1582
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 3: Bud any chance they get about this, if we If

1583
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 3: there's any kind of success in this, it's gonna be

1584
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 3: the privilege of Oh y'all.

1585
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: Light skin, of course they gonna And that could be true.

1586
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some doors open because we're a light

1587
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: skin group of trans people, absolutely, and we call.

1588
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: It out our job when that's the case. So when

1589
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: it's I.

1590
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: Knew that that was going to be an issue then,

1591
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: but it hasn't been. Sometimes it comes into play like

1592
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: people will be like, oh, they're not even black, and I'm.

1593
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 1: Like, how are y'all?

1594
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, I.

1595
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: Would love to tell us that we're not black or whatever,

1596
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.

1597
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: Well they biracial, I'm not biracial. I have two black parents.

1598
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: Mia and z are biracial. One is black and LATINX

1599
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: and the other one.

1600
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: Is black and white.

1601
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: My mom is a black woman, my dad is a

1602
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: black woman, period.

1603
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: So I knew that was going to be an issue.

1604
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 3: But I knew based on my history with YouTube and

1605
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 3: history with everything. People who know me know that I'm

1606
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: on my black shit all the time, and so and

1607
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm I'm all about dismantling, dismantling colorism, dismantling racism, dismantling

1608
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 3: sexism and all these isms.

1609
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm all about that.

1610
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: So, you know, the light skin and viracial black people

1611
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: are the ones that really be going the hardest. Like

1612
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just like making up for

1613
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: lost time or it's just like.

1614
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 5: This group or I'm not black enough, I'm not white enough.

1615
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 4: I'm tired of y'all.

1616
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: I think I think it's like they've been like it

1617
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: could be also like white people.

1618
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: Be trying them harder. Yes, so it's like, I.

1619
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: Really know these motherfuckers ain't shit because y'alln't even gonna

1620
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: believe what they told me in the in.

1621
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: The group chat or whatever. I don't know, but they

1622
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: go hard.

1623
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 3: My homie justice is don't get harder. I think they

1624
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 3: definitely try the dark skinned folks harder.

1625
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: But I just in my mind, I feel like.

1626
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: For the light skinned people listening or watch it, I

1627
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: feel like there's a time that what I had to

1628
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: learn in my younger days and as I got older,

1629
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: is there's a time when when I'm asked my experience

1630
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: as a light skinned person, When I'm asked right, or

1631
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: when somebody is trying to tell me something that's not

1632
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 2: true about my experience, That's when I'm going to speak

1633
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: up and say something. When I'm asked about my own

1634
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: personal experience or when you're trying to tell me my

1635
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,520
Speaker 2: experience and it's not true. But if I feel myself

1636
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: saying something to undermine the experience of a darker black person,

1637
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: that's the time that you need to shut the fuck

1638
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: up because it is not your place to undermine it.

1639
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: You should not be saying, oh, well, I experienced that too.

1640
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: That's not the point. It is time.

1641
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: There is time when somebody asks you, when a darkened

1642
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: person is telling you their experience, when they're telling you

1643
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 3: their experience, shut up and let them tell it.

1644
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: I feel like.

1645
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: What like when I went to my homie Justin, he

1646
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: like skin and like we go to remember what time

1647
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: we went to play basketball, and there were some kids

1648
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 2: that were going to come in and use the cord

1649
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 2: at say ten am, right, We're it's like, say, I

1650
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: don't know, nine thirty.

1651
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: This lady comes in.

1652
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: She's like, hey, at nine forty five, we have to

1653
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: clear the court because there's a kid's basketball game, right,

1654
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: And she and the way she came in, she kind

1655
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: of like yelled at because it's fucking thirty five grown

1656
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: men dribbling balls being loud. So she's like hey because

1657
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 2: and everyone was ignoring her. So it got to a

1658
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: point where she did yell. And I remember just just

1659
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: we were all sitting with just Ill put off shit.

1660
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you know, I'm like he's ready

1661
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: to get ready to go. He's like I'm going to

1662
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: go up to the front and I want to give

1663
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: her a piece of my mind because she is racist.

1664
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Justin's white people in black people ins.

1665
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: He was like that ship was right. I could tell

1666
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: from the way she did it.

1667
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: I spent like ten minutes talking him down, like man,

1668
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 2: you're gonna get this woman fired.

1669
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 4: Like I was like that was ignoring the shit out

1670
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 4: of her. She had had up.

1671
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: All like we like it was kind of disrespectful.

1672
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 5: She walked in, she asked us to be you know

1673
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 5: like like he quietly was like, hey, you know when

1674
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 5: you gonna need the court.

1675
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: Everyone just ignored her. She eventually got frustrated, like, hey,

1676
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: I need the court.

1677
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 5: She never said a racial slursh She didn't specifically point

1678
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 5: in no black people.

1679
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: He I was like, man, you go hard, like you

1680
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: just go harder than me. It's not, you know, no disrespect.

1681
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 5: I love it, and honestly, yeah, and I've seen it

1682
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 5: before and it is one of those things where I've

1683
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 5: seen light skinned people go so hard while I'm like,

1684
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, as a dog skin person, I'm like,

1685
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 5: and it may be because of the things we do.

1686
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 5: It ain't that serious, Like it's okay, like like I'm

1687
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 5: all right, they're like, no, what we ain't gonna do?

1688
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: You be like you got it, but they don't. But listen, no,

1689
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: sometimes they talk you in the freedom.

1690
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 4: I'm just talk you right through the front down.

1691
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: Was like, listen, gonna give.

1692
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 3: Us and sometimes you gotta step in. It's just like

1693
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,440
Speaker 3: when we tell white folks to step.

1694
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: In and be on the front line because there might

1695
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 2: be a little bit more tender to me than they

1696
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 2: would to you. Come on, I talked, if I if

1697
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: I confront them, they need may be a little bit

1698
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: more understanding or you get what I'm saying.

1699
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: Whatever, So sometimes you gotta do that.

1700
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: Listen, I will absolutely look put out that privileged card

1701
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 2: and swipe that ship because I ain't.

1702
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: Got you know, sometimes I ain't got it.

1703
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: Like hey, also right, also, let's not forget that.

1704
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: This this skin.

1705
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: Although I may not be oppressed to the level of

1706
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: a dark skinned person.

1707
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm not white, right, I'm not white.

1708
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: When I come in the room, this skin still I

1709
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 3: don't I'm not a I don't.

1710
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: Read Megan markets white for me.

1711
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: I'm not on that level where you can even potentially

1712
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 3: think that I'm a white person. So I'm like, so

1713
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 3: when I come in the in the store and I'm

1714
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 3: a light skinned black woman, so I'm gonna be treated

1715
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 3: like a black woman. I'm going to I'm going to

1716
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: be followed, They're gonna still.

1717
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: Think I'm stealing. I'm still gonna have some of these

1718
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: same experiences.

1719
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that is because we're from

1720
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: the South. Too, you know what I mean, because like

1721
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: here is I mean, it's literally one drop like it's

1722
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: not I'm not saying that's fair. White supremacy fucking sucks, but.

1723
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: They will freeze your ass out if they get a

1724
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: whiff of m not all the way white, excuse me,

1725
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: and you back to the back of the line.

1726
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: And there's there's a harsh there's a harsh penalty for

1727
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: being black, even when you're even if your light skin

1728
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: even color is all this, it's still like, get to

1729
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: the back of the line. Black women still gonna be

1730
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: the angry black woman. I'm still gonna be a little

1731
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: she too, feisty. It's gonna be the same thing when

1732
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: we talk about black men and how you have the

1733
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: two different things, uh, the two different types of oppression.

1734
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to get two things at.

1735
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: The same time.

1736
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the you're angry black woman blah blah

1737
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah.

1738
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: But I'm also gonna get the.

1739
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 2: You're not black, particularly if I'm I'm cold switching real

1740
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: good that day, because I usually on cold switch, but

1741
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: say that I'm cold switch, you're real good that day,

1742
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: and I'm putting my white girl on my white girl voice,

1743
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: trying to get this interview.

1744
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be some moments where they say, oh,

1745
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: well you're not right. Yeah, Then once.

1746
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: I get it and oh she's just so feisty, right,

1747
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: so loud.

1748
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: And I'm still both of those things are going to exist.

1749
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: It's a both in a world.

1750
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: So for me, I just feel like there's a time

1751
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 2: and place for me to speak up about my complexion

1752
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: and there's a time and play for me to shut up. Well,

1753
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, for the show, I love Marsha's play.

1754
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: And the reason I love it is actually because while

1755
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: it is educational.

1756
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Is I think it's just entertaining, you know what I mean.

1757
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: So like it's like I think, I mean, we're trying

1758
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: to do that with our show too, where it's like

1759
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: you might.

1760
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Learn something you might not.

1761
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 5: Now, not every episode is a motherfucking teable moment, but

1762
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 5: you might learn something and that's cool and you might

1763
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 5: even be edified by.

1764
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 2: It, even though that's not necessarily our purpose. But what

1765
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: I find that that, uh, that was so interesting. I

1766
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 2: feel like everybody should listen to March's play is that

1767
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: it's a lived experience that y'all talking about it's just

1768
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: your lives, and it's kind of it's humanizing, but also

1769
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: it's very much like this is almost this this world

1770
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 2: that I'm that I'm existing in and the things I

1771
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: have to do to exist in.

1772
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: It, you know. And then in addition to that.

1773
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: It's funny and it's like, you know, like it's uh,

1774
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: it's joyous.

1775
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:36,480
Speaker 1: It's not.

1776
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: It's not just like, you know, ain't we lucky we

1777
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: got them?

1778
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it ain't nobody the trouble we see. You were like,

1779
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 5: come on now, I can't do this every episode.

1780
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: So you know, I think that's y'all because trans people

1781
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: die at least once a week like this, particularly all

1782
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty and this this, this, this, this first

1783
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 2: three months of.

1784
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 4: One.

1785
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Trans people die all the time.

1786
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,839
Speaker 2: We intentionally say we're not going to mention this particular

1787
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: trans depth because if we we would be down trotting

1788
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: and that if we've mentioned every single time.

1789
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: So we can't do that all the time.

1790
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: And it's not that we don't care about it, it's

1791
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 3: just that we don't want are we.

1792
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I just I started.

1793
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 3: An initiative initiative arts initiative to be able to.

1794
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: I want to get a facility for people to so

1795
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: I can cultivate like artists, trans artists, LGBT artists.

1796
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: So for me, I think.

1797
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 3: Our trauma, our oppression, our harm that we get from

1798
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 3: all of these systems is too much put to the forefront.

1799
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 3: I feel like our joy, our talent, our creativity is

1800
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 3: just as important.

1801
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 2: And and worth investing in as those negative things.

1802
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 3: So I want to be able to talk about what

1803
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 3: success is trans people are having. I of course I'm

1804
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 3: gonna talk about the real shit. I'm not gonna give

1805
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 3: you all the sugar coated gum drops, but I want

1806
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 3: you to know that there are some joyous things happening,

1807
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 3: and there are some sad shit happening. We live in

1808
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 3: a both and world, and both of these things are

1809
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 3: happening at simultaneously.

1810
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: And we have an amazing show called Polls, and Jen

1811
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: and Mock.

1812
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: Getting these contract deals to create these amazing trans programs, and.

1813
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,480
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah, people getting.

1814
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 3: TV shows like TS Madison and all these things. We

1815
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 3: getting awards and all for a podcast and so amazing thing.

1816
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: But there are also girls that are dying. There's also

1817
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 3: transmen that are killing themselves. There's also non binary firks

1818
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 3: that are being attacked.

1819
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: So it's so many things that are happening.

1820
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 3: It's so many things that are happening that I don't

1821
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: want to just focus on the sad. I want to

1822
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 3: be real and I want to The reason why how

1823
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: I set the show up is that I'm bringing a topic.

1824
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 3: Mia is bringing the topic, and Z's being a topic,

1825
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: and we don't know until we actually come to the show,

1826
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 3: and so everything is not My topic for myself is

1827
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: not as surprised. But what they bring to the table,

1828
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen. So they're not

1829
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 3: always in a sad mold. They're not always in a

1830
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 3: press mode.

1831
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 2: So you know, there's current events that we want to

1832
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 2: talk about, Like we just talked about the Kurt Franklin stuff,

1833
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 2: but but you know, we want to talk about the good,

1834
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly and the pretty. Yeah, it

1835
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 2: could be Listen, you might learn how to shit in

1836
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: the bag. You don't know, okay when you tune in. Okay,

1837
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: you might learn some survival skills, like hey, look, the

1838
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 2: Mexicans know what a good target is. That's where the

1839
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 2: food truck is bid. Let's go like, but I just

1840
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 2: find it to be like everything you just said, But

1841
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: it's also like I think it reaches people on a

1842
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 2: human level. I think that's just something because there's a

1843
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: lot of academic talk. Yes, you know, and I can't

1844
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 2: speak to obviously that experience as a trans person, but

1845
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: I know as a black person, it seemed like sometimes

1846
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: it's two worlds where it's like people that first of all,

1847
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 2: we need academics. I'm not knocking out, oh yeah, thank

1848
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: you for what y'all do. But at the same time,

1849
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 2: it's like she can get so high minded and so

1850
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: like in depth that if you can't, if you an

1851
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: academic ass motherfucker and you can't explain your academic shit

1852
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: to your grandma who are to college, then your shit

1853
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: ain't worth nothing.

1854
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Exact, if you can't.

1855
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Talk to me, if you can't talk to the hood,

1856
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 3: you can't talk to people who who don't know all

1857
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 3: them big ass words, if you can't not dumb it down,

1858
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 3: because we're not dumb, but take it down and be laymen.

1859
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Use the language of the people to speak to them

1860
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 3: and explain them, explain to them. Look at Fenny lou Hammer,

1861
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 3: Fanny lou Hammer, when she's talking. You think she's this

1862
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 3: country ass woman, But the theories that she was putting

1863
01:32:58,439 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 3: out her.

1864
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: Mouth were powerful.

1865
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 3: These were theories, these were these were these, These were

1866
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 3: powerful moments out of her mouth.

1867
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 2: And she's just this country barely English. Well she's talking English, but.

1868
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: Country English that you can't understand.

1869
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 3: But she is giving you these theories and giving you

1870
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 3: this politic that is amazing. So no, it's not dumbing

1871
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 3: it down, but it's it's it's put it to the

1872
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 3: layman so that layman can understand it and we can

1873
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 3: understand and put and and and rally behind you. But

1874
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 3: if you just using all these big old words and

1875
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 3: you just trying. I done spoke at Stanford. When I

1876
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 3: was at Stanford, I wasn't cold switching. I was telling

1877
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 3: it like it was because I'm I'm just as educated

1878
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 3: as anybody in these in these in these hall because

1879
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm a.

1880
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 2: Red I read and do all this kind of stuff.

1881
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: But I'm also not gonna uh water down my culture,

1882
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: my aa ve because that's my culture to actually fit

1883
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 2: to you, because i feel like.

1884
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 3: That's why supremacy too. So understand this academic stuff. It's great,

1885
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 3: it's cute, but.

1886
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: It needs to be translated to everybody, or it's not

1887
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: doing anything and it's staying in the white right. And

1888
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what y'all bring to the game,

1889
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 2: is that like lived experiences as people and then you're

1890
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: not talking Uh, it's not It's just not a theory

1891
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 2: for people anymore, because I think people that don't experience

1892
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 2: things they like to like, they end up experiencing shit.

1893
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 1: This theory.

1894
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Right, if you go buy a book, hey, how to

1895
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: be an Anti Racist, that's good. I'm not knocking you

1896
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: for riding that book, but you're catching some hogh end

1897
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 2: theoretical shit. Then there's also just like like you, I'll

1898
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: give you the great example you brought up with a

1899
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: woman where you're like, she was transferred he she and

1900
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: all that shit me and she misgendered me. At the

1901
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 2: same time, she was fucking ready to whoop somebody's ass

1902
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 2: if they fuck with me.

1903
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: She was ready to give me a meal.

1904
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 2: You can't really get that from a text, you know

1905
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like texts like it's very black and white.

1906
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: It's not lived, it's not you know. It's like whenever

1907
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,879
Speaker 2: I talk about like whoopings, I'm like, I got Woomans

1908
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 2: as a kid, I love my parents, though I whoop

1909
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 2: your ass and you say some shit about them.

1910
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think whoops is good.

1911
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: If I had a kid, I wouldn't do it.

1912
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 2: You know all this shit, So it's but you only

1913
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 2: if you know me, you can hear it and go

1914
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 2: I see what he's saying. If I printed that out,

1915
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 2: I'd go viral on Twitter because everybody be like this.

1916
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: Nigga love abuse. Okay, he sided with Kurt Franklin. Okay,

1917
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that's what it really is.

1918
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: So but I think that's what Marshall plays bring. And

1919
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:28,839
Speaker 2: then also just the jams.

1920
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: The bops are so good. Yes, it's so funny.

1921
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 4: It is very enjoyable.

1922
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 5: And I know for me when you were talking about

1923
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 5: simplifying things, because.

1924
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 4: What I've realized is that I put like this being online.

1925
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 4: I sometimes I see.

1926
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 5: A lot of academics. I'm gonna go back to that.

1927
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 5: I see a lot of academics get frustrated when they're

1928
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 5: saying things, and it's a disconnect between what they're saying

1929
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 5: and how people are responding. And instead of them going

1930
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 5: where I might need to change my messaging, they'll go

1931
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 5: where y'all stupid and y'all dumb, and y'all don't understand that.

1932
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 4: In return turns around and.

1933
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 5: It is make other people be like, well, the yr

1934
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 5: degree don't mean the motherfucking thing, and it costs this

1935
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 5: unnecessary conflict that term funny that actually does not have

1936
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 5: to be there because the thing is like I'm for

1937
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 5: an example, and I thought about this way were talking.

1938
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 5: We were talking about defund the police.

1939
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 4: Defund the police.

1940
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 5: When you first hear it, I know for me, me

1941
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 5: and Roger talked about it. He had to do some

1942
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 5: convincement cause I was like, fuck that, I want the police.

1943
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 5: If I down nine want one, motherfucker, you better goddamn come.

1944
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Yes.

1945
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 5: I know they might say I fit the description that

1946
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 5: they might pop me upside my head.

1947
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 4: I understand that's the chance I take.

1948
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 5: But motherfucker, if somebody steal my shit, y'all better show up.

1949
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 5: You take my goddamn tax money, you do your motherfucking job.

1950
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 4: Like That's what my mind was.

1951
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 5: So when you talk about defund the police, that's what

1952
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 5: I heard, and I understand that's what a lot of

1953
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,480
Speaker 5: other people heard too. But when you talk to academics

1954
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 5: that like that word doesn't doesn't already have a definition,

1955
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 5: and it's almost like you had to almost relund the definition.

1956
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 5: So if these people like you said, well it took

1957
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,759
Speaker 5: that term and rephrase, you would have had more people

1958
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 5: sooner and you wouldn't have had to waste as much

1959
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 5: time convincing people behind your purpose and your calls, which

1960
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:10,879
Speaker 5: delayed the press.

1961
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 3: That's getting caught up, that gets caught up in semantics too.

1962
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 3: Like think, I think that's a I think that's I

1963
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 3: haven't thought this through, but I think that also is

1964
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 3: a tool of white supremacy to where they get us

1965
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: caught up in these Oh we gotta say the exact words,

1966
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 3: we gotta say the exact things.

1967
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 1: What we are telling.

1968
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 3: You is that there's too much fucking money in these

1969
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 3: police departments and these police sectors in the state that

1970
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 3: is not actually stopping crime.

1971
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: That's what we're telling you. So that's the bottom line.

1972
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 3: But you might not like defund, you might not like abolished,

1973
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 3: you might not like all these worlds, But what we're

1974
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,759
Speaker 3: telling you is that statistically that.

1975
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: The money that y'are.

1976
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: Spending in these cop institutions are not working. So I

1977
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 2: need to take the money in other places. You need

1978
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 2: to take the money, defund it. That don't mean to

1979
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 2: take them away, but take money out of this and

1980
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 2: put it somewhere else.

1981
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 3: Because I'm a black trans woman, sometimes I'm gonna need

1982
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 3: to call the cops. They might be I might they

1983
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 3: might try to give me the suck ay thing if.

1984
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't do something that they want me to do.

1985
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: That may be it, but.

1986
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 3: They may be my last resort when somebody is trying

1987
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 3: to kill me. Right so I don't want them to

1988
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 3: right now. But but let me say this that's right now.

1989
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 3: That is not don't let that right now situation We

1990
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 3: in limit your imagination of where we can be what

1991
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 3: you can think if we reduce crime. There could be

1992
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 3: a time if we defund and put the money in

1993
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 3: the right place where we can reduce these things happening.

1994
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 3: And people got a living way so they're not out

1995
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 3: here ribbing people. People got the mental health access so

1996
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 3: they're not out here killing people. When you we could

1997
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 3: create a world where that is least likely happening, So we.

1998
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: Don't need all these cops on the street.

1999
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 3: We cannot let what's happening now, we cannot have the

2000
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 3: situation and atmosphere that we're in now, limit the imagination

2001
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 3: of what we can what we can create, what we

2002
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 3: can rally around to be.

2003
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 1: That's really really what I want you to be really

2004
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: keen on.

2005
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 3: So, yes, I need police right now, but if we

2006
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 3: do things right, I might not need them in the.

2007
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 4: Future, right right.

2008
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 5: And And once I understood that concept, it made it

2009
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 5: understandable because to me, I look at it as redistribution.

2010
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 2: Well that's what I find interesting though, is that this

2011
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: is literally the example, right, because it was like the

2012
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 2: academia can hit you with like a thing, you know,

2013
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 2: and it's not necessarily academic. I think online spaces obviously

2014
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 2: lend themselves to people that are literate, people that have

2015
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: time all this shit, people that have with.

2016
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: Money for the internet. Yes, people that read a lot

2017
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 1: shit like that.

2018
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 2: So these spaces can be so insular and very like

2019
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: navel gaze. And so it's like we came up with

2020
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: the hashtag and it's like, that's cool. I have to

2021
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 2: go into my community and talk to people, right, And

2022
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 2: I just want you to understand that with this hashtag

2023
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 2: comes a cost of explaining it.

2024
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: That's not to say it's a bad like it's bad.

2025
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: We don't want to do it. They do want to

2026
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: do it. Just understand that there's work with this.

2027
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 2: It's not just as simple as saying it and walking away, right,

2028
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: And that's all that. I think it's funny because that's

2029
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: what just happened. Karen's like this, I remember when this happened.

2030
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 2: And then Diamond's like and this is what it means.

2031
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 2: And Kara's like yes, and I was on ball what

2032
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: it meant. It's like, yes, exactly, that's exactly. That's exactly

2033
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 2: the relationship that's and the.

2034
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: White people know it. I want to think about when

2035
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: it comes to a messaging. You were talking.

2036
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 3: We were talking about black conservatives in the church back

2037
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 3: in the day, like during industry. This is just a

2038
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 3: little history lesson that you can look up to if

2039
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 3: y'all don't know what I'm sorry.

2040
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Back in the day, when Ford.

2041
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 2: Was going under and they wanted they didn't want them

2042
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:12,560
Speaker 2: to unionize, they literally paid the church, like the preachers

2043
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 2: in Detroit. They were paying the church to sell their

2044
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 2: message to get them not to unionize because they knew

2045
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 2: that the church would be able to get convinced them

2046
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 2: to vote out of their best interests, and they won.

2047
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 2: I want to know what that's people know how important

2048
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 2: the messaging is because they invest in the messaging. That's

2049
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 2: why when we when they were trying to not get

2050
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 2: the marriage equality past, they knew to hit them black churches.

2051
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:51,480
Speaker 2: They kneed hit Eddie long before he got exposed.

2052
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 3: Come on, they knew to hit him. They knew you

2053
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 3: hit the TDJAS. You knew you hit the hit these

2054
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: major churches. Because they're gonna the black vote, the conservative

2055
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 3: black vote. It's gonna follow them.

2056
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 2: They knew that that message is because they're gonna be

2057
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: able to narrow it down and dumb it down quote

2058
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 2: unquote down to those dog whistles and from the black church.

2059
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: They knew the.

2060
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 3: Messages was important, so they know how to do it.

2061
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 3: But we got to know that. We got to know

2062
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 3: how to do this too.

2063
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 2: We gotta make sure that we are talking to our

2064
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 2: people in a way that they can understand.

2065
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 3: And I'm not I want to make it very clear.

2066
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 3: I don't mean dumb it down like we gotta be.

2067
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 3: Everybody is not in academia.

2068
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 2: How about this, say it plane, you gotta speak say

2069
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 2: it how about say it plane that like so that

2070
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 2: say it plane like you know, motherfuckers understand if you

2071
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 2: just say it playing man's I remember I used to

2072
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 2: play basketball when I was in college.

2073
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,839
Speaker 1: Just to play basketball across the street to Seabrook Park.

2074
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,520
Speaker 2: And it was the hood for lack of a better term,

2075
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 2: but I grew up yeah, I grew up here.

2076
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Playing ball in the hood.

2077
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 2: So it was like all hoods are the same, no

2078
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 2: little differences here and there. But you know, you let

2079
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 2: me guess, it's the place where you put your black people.

2080
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 2: So I played ball over there, and it would be

2081
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 2: so funny. I played ball over there so much because

2082
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 2: I didn't like playing with the guys at the in

2083
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: my school. It was it's just like a whole different

2084
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: experience and I and I'm used to playing with niggas

2085
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 2: like that, so I was like, man, let's go over.

2086
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 1: There with them. And the college guys would come over.

2087
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: Every once in a while, I would like say the

2088
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 2: gym was closed or you know, some some bullshit was that,

2089
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 2: Oh they're using the gym for volleyball. Let's go over

2090
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 2: to the park and play. And the hood people I

2091
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 2: would just chill with them. They thought I was from

2092
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 2: fabul for so long because it was just like, oh,

2093
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 2: now he cool, and the other dudes was a media

2094
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 2: like college boy, and I was like, and uh.

2095
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: One of my friends came over there was like, man,

2096
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 1: why did they? Why they?

2097
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 2: Why they they used to call me Jordan's. It wasn't

2098
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: because they thought it was Michael Jordan as a joke.

2099
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,719
Speaker 2: But he was like, why did they call you Jordan?

2100
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: Why they just? I was like, cause I just be

2101
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 1: over here chilling. Y'all come over here with this.

2102
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 2: Air of like we're not from here here, okay, from

2103
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 2: so and so to go to college. I will be

2104
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 2: out of here in four years. I like, you come

2105
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 2: with that attitude. People are meanly shutting you out, so

2106
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 2: like you do have to say a plan.

2107
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: You do have to like.

2108
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 2: Show that now I'm not above you, I'm not like

2109
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 2: we all different from each other. But it's no airs

2110
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 2: of like some type of hierarchy over here.

2111
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we would.

2112
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: Have here to sell that to the white people in

2113
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 2: an interview. We don't care your degree, don't do nothing

2114
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: to me. When I'm asking for money from white people,

2115
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, y'all owe me. I will pronounce that

2116
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 2: Ian Roderick, okay, but.

2117
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Any other time it's just Rodery okay, because a degree.

2118
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 3: I understand the value in getting a job salaries that

2119
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 3: the degree that comes with a degree, right, I know.

2120
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 1: And I love ACA, Jimmy.

2121
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 2: I love what it brings to me in regards to

2122
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 2: education because there's people who actually do the work to

2123
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 2: go do the research and go get these cases and

2124
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: go through a library of congress that really find these

2125
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 2: narratives and blah blah blah blah.

2126
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: I admire that work.

2127
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 3: And I learned so much from scholars and academic This

2128
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 3: is not down in them. I understand the value in that.

2129
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 3: But I also understand the value in the layman.

2130
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I understand that my mama, my mama who didn't graduate

2131
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 2: from tenth grade, had an education around survival that some

2132
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: of the biggest academics don't even have.

2133
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: I value her education too.

2134
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 3: I value the education that I learned from my grandmother,

2135
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: who taught me how to garden and take care of

2136
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 3: my I can cook.

2137
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Anything that you can kill.

2138
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 3: I can skin it, gut it, clean it, and cook

2139
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 3: it up and make it something good.

2140
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: Every single thing. I can grow everything.

2141
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: I value country smarts, I value street smarts, I value

2142
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 2: book smarts. I value everything because they all have value yep.

2143
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 2: And I mean, if you don't believe it, try making

2144
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 2: that motherfucking keeln pot At upside down cake your grandma

2145
01:45:59,000 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 2: used to make.

2146
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: It's hard as fuck. You don't know how to do that.

2147
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: I know I don't.

2148
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 2: That's a whole different education level. Let me get a

2149
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 2: pinch of this, Give me a handful.

2150
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 5: Of these, give me a shake shape.

2151
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: What the hell is this?

2152
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, pull out the measuring cup. If you got

2153
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 2: a measure then you don't know what you're doing.

2154
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, here we go, here we go.

2155
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Well, listen, this has been fun, Diamond. I feel like

2156
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 2: I've asked you all the questions. Hopefully that the audience

2157
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 2: knows you better. Now you know, we can have you

2158
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 2: back and play play games and.

2159
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 4: Talk about popcor would love to play the games.

2160
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 2: But I feel like we did so much quote unquote

2161
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 2: educating and learning and interviewing. Would you like to play

2162
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 2: some guests the race? I mean, you know, would you

2163
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 2: like to have some fun?

2164
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: Sure? Absolutely? All right, let's play some guests the race? Okay,

2165
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: because I.

2166
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like, you know, people hear us

2167
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 2: all this Harman did half lout and talk and then

2168
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 2: they're just like wow, these these motherfucker's really too good.

2169
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: No, let's get some racism going. It's time the race,

2170
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 1: It's time.

2171
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 2: It's all right, guess the race time. This is the

2172
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 2: time where we go around the world find different articles

2173
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 2: of people doing all kinds of wild ship, and we

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Speaker 2: guessed the race of the people involved. Today's contestants. Oh,

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01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 2: we'll have Karen obviously from the black Out tips. We

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01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 2: have Diamond Styles for March Play podcast, and then we

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Speaker 2: have the audience also playing guest the race, and they're

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01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 2: all racists in the chat room, so just be on

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Speaker 2: the lookout.

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01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 1: First story, a.

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01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 2: New Jersey man said he intentionally ran over a flock

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Speaker 2: of geese in the New Jersey parking lot, killing them.

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01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 4: Oh, what a gangster. Guess what's happening.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Lisa, wasn't a flock of seagulls. Okay,

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01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 2: that's a if you're old enough to know that reference.

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01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 2: I'll just make myself feel extra old just now.

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01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: My god, damn.

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01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 3: I was explaining to Z developing pictures from disposable cameras

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01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 3: the other day on the show, and I was like, ooh,

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01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 3: I feel old.

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01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 4: I have to have to take them up to echers

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01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 4: and ship.

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01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 2: Right, I'm like, no, this is how we used to

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01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: do dick picts in my day.

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01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 1: So you had to get the right angle. You get

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01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 1: you a tripod, you gotta take it. You gotta take

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01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: it the eggers and ask that man.

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Speaker 5: Not to you know, we don't look too how And

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01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 5: when Paulo Wars came.

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01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 4: Out, they changed the game.

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Speaker 1: Come on, now we didn't have to.

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01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 4: Go to them no more.

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01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 5: And I aged myself to echascas around nobody. I've been

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01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 5: talking about echos in First Union, I'll be talking about

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01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 5: ship It don't even matter no more. Duke power, it's

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01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 5: duke energy. Now it's gonna be Duke power. They called

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01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 5: the Duke power your mama and you power. You're gonna

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01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 5: be do power.

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Speaker 2: Quentin Alec Manning twenty two, pleaded guilty Monday to animal cruelty.

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01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: Police found the geese in the parking lot of an

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01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 2: Indian Head Plaza store of Indian Head Plaza in Tom's

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01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 2: River on May twenty ninth, twenty nineteen.

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01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: The Lisbury Park. Wait so that they just solved this? Wow? Fuck?

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01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 1: Is this just news? Wow?

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01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 2: I mean it's say twenty twenty one commenters called for

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01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: an investigation, and police said they had spoken to witnesses

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01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 2: and shop owners. The day after the incident, police arrested

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01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 2: Alec Manning. He faces ninety days in Ocean jail and

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01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 2: will be required to perform community service. Well don't let

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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,839
Speaker 2: them feed no ducks.

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01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 1: Please don't.

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01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 2: You may also be prohibited from ever working with or

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01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 2: owning an animal.

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Speaker 1: He is scheduled to be sentenced in May. Karen guessed

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01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: the race of Quentin Alec Manning. I'm gonna white diamond.

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01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna say North Asian, but now that you

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01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 2: said the name Quentin Alec Manning, I'm gonna say God,

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01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't know any Mannings that are white except for eight,

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01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say white.

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01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: Okay, let's check the chat room and see what they believe.

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01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: Uh bird being black?

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01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: No Quentin Quentin white with the weed in the car,

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01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 2: no insurance black white.

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01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 1: Three names and animal cruelty, no chicken.

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01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 2: Evolve, gotta be white, black father line, what's his feather

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01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:32,560
Speaker 2: line particular?

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01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 1: White?

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01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 2: White people do animal shit? Three names white and that's

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01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,799
Speaker 2: a nigga. The correct answer Quentin Alec.

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01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Quit naming their son Quentin Alec Quentin Alec Quentin

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01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: Alec Manning. It's the Alec that's throwing me off. Do

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: you want to know the spelling with that? With that

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01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: help at all? Yea? So Quentin is spelled q u

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01:50:55,720 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: I N t I N. Alec is a L E. C.

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01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: Dash Manning.

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01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 2: So his last name is Alec dash Manning.

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01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 1: That's a hyphen. Yeah, God, that changes it. I just

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01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 1: I've only met one white man, and that was Quentin.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else is black. I mean, that was Peyton. I'm

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01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna stick with white, sticking with white.

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01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 4: I know what I'm gonna split. I'm I'm gonna go

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01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 4: to black.

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01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: Karen's going to black. Now, Oh, we got some movement here.

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01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 4: Y'all, because all right, sorry, I'm changing sides.

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 2: The correct answer is now dominic is the final answer

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01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: going white?

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01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: White? Yeah?

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01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 2: All right here, the correct answer is most of y'all

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01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 2: went white and the answer is black.

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01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 1: Say that again.

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01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry this nigga running over the damn jog oh

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01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 3: the geese and of course, uh, Karen and a few

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01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 3: others y'all did get it right.

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01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: How now, Karen, how did you get that right? How

2266
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: did you what was the clue? The spelling, the.

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01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 5: Spelling, and then you said the hyphen, and then I

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01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:21,879
Speaker 5: was like, Quentin.

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01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I.

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01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 1: Heard the white dudes called that, but I.

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01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 2: Was like, that sounds like such a They did spell

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01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: it black too. You know, we liked we like a

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01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 2: flourish Okay, yeah, we love I love that. By the way, well,

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01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 2: I like a black person name wherever you like. It's

2275
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: like heather. But then it's like, it's not spelled like heather,

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01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 2: it's like spelled the black way. I'll be like, yes,

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01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, let's do this, oh man, all right, let's.

2278
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Go to the second one.

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01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so so far Karen's got one uh diamond zero

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01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 2: chat room of.

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01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 1: Course, all over the place. Here's one. This one happens

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 1: in Texas.

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01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, out the gates. A Texas man drove bmwship dealership, sorry,

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01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: drove BMW dealership loaner car to rob a bank and

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01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 2: then tried to use the stolen money from the bank

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01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 2: to buy the BMW.

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01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're gonna have an.

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 5: Audacity, all the audacity, right.

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01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 2: A Texas man who used a loaner car from a

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01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: dealership to rob a bank and then by the vehicle.

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01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: Was sentenced to twenty years in Federal prison. According to

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01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 1: the court documents, Eric Dion Warren fifty Dion was.

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01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: In the process of finalizing the purchase of the VMW

2294
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,680
Speaker 2: in the summer twenty nineteen when Warren went into a

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01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 2: bank and walked up to the tailor.

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01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: The fifty year old then put a bag. That's a

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01:53:58,479 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: nigga all day.

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01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 2: That's a nigga from the South Side, Third War or

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01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 2: South Park, so they can.

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01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 5: Cru So that's the problem with the loaner. See that's

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01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 5: how they know they got you with the loaner.

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01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: You didn't got a taste of the sweet light even

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01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: out on these streets, like, oh it hit different at

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01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: the club, Oh it hit different.

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01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 4: You mean nohe told people gonna buy it.

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01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 1: I drove by the park. They was on me. I can't.

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01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: I got to get this. I got to I don't

2308
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 1: know what I got to do.

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01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 4: Lord, I couldn't shake them hose.

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01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 2: The fifty year old then put all kind of pussies

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01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 2: off your car.

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01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 4: Return return, I'm not returning shit.

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01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: The fifty year old then put a bag. He put

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01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 2: a bag from a fast food restaurant and a note

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01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: on the counter. The note read, this is a fucking

2316
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 2: ribbery play with me and die. I want ten thousand

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01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 2: dollars and fifty dollars and one hundred dollar bills. Now

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01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 2: you got one minute or I will kill you at

2319
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 2: the showing the teller specific bills.

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01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: My, that's a nigga. I don't care what nobody.

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01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 4: I don't deal with big bills. I won't be sure

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01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 4: they legit.

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01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 1: Fifty and one hundred.

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01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 2: So does that mean at the dealership he paid with cash?

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01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: I wonder.

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01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 2: So Warren poured out what looked like a handgun that said,

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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 2: I ain't playing around.

2328
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: I only want hundreds and fifties, authority said.

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01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 2: Fifteen minutes after the robbery took place, Warren went back

2330
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: to the dealership and the loan vehicle and, according to employees,

2331
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 2: began waving around cash.

2332
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: He ended getting to the money he was just so.

2333
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: He entered the dealership's finance office and attempted to finalize

2334
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 2: the purchase of the BMW by giving the dealership three

2335
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 2: thousand dollars cash as a down payment.

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01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: While Warren was in the.

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01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 2: Dealership finance office, and employee received a phone call informing

2338
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 2: him of a recent bank robbery.

2339
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh with the vehicle, Now, how did they know? How

2340
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: did they know.

2341
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 2: The employee realized the vehicle using the bank robbery, mashed

2342
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 2: the vehicle. The dealership had long Warren right, and the

2343
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 2: employee alerted law enforcement. When Warren was arrested, you got

2344
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 2: more than five thousand dollars with him, and the serial

2345
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 2: numbers matched those stolen from the bank. Police also found

2346
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 2: a painted pellet gun resembling a real handgun. Guess the

2347
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:17,879
Speaker 2: race of Eric Dion Warren.

2348
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go black, and do y'all think he walked

2349
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 5: up in there and unraveled at McDonald's bag and was like, here, y'all,

2350
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 5: three thousand, bitch, you had you had a.

2351
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Diamond. You're sticking with black for the race? Yeah, stick

2352
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 1: with that. Sounds like.

2353
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 4: Honey, that money spelling like Greece.

2354
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Fifty is too old to be foolish like.

2355
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 4: This, Like why you're gonna live half your life?

2356
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: You ain't, No, it wasin't gonna work at fifty.

2357
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 2: You gotta know this ain't gonna work. This ain't got

2358
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 2: a good chance. All right, Let's check the chat room

2359
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:52,839
Speaker 2: and see what they believe.

2360
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: That's a nigga.

2361
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: Ocean's one, so said Ocean, the one at during the

2362
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 2: doll the.

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: The black one is the black one because.

2364
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 2: That nigga make it rain on the dealership. Oh he

2365
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: black and mike El's voice, This was a nigga that did.

2366
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 5: This Ocean's one grand all O.

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01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 2: Five online heights black damn that nigga his dad, his

2368
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 2: daddy and nigga. That's a nigga's daddy, niggas granddaddy and

2369
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 2: nigga service loaner Pellett Burger robbery. That's at Yeah, everybody

2370
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 2: very black, Uh prime time Neon Dion Black was steal

2371
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: money for a car, but not for chase for a

2372
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: black Oh god, steel type.

2373
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, thank god, white people don't listen to the show.

2374
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 2: He the correct Yeah, it definitely wasn't No.

2375
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: Eleven.

2376
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 2: The heist was not playing out. Okay, this was this

2377
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 2: movie would have been up short. Okay, yeah, it was

2378
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 2: getting caught anyway. Everyone got it right.

2379
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's black.

2380
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 2: The thing for me is Karen was like, how did

2381
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 2: he spend to bring the money in there in the bag?

2382
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I know how he brought it. He's

2383
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: a fifty ye old black man. He folded in his

2384
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 2: pocket first and then he unfolded it. It was like, now,

2385
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 2: how much just three thousand. Is that one was talking

2386
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 2: about three thousand and one?

2387
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: To hold on, hold this right here, I got that

2388
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: for you, Like that's how he counted it.

2389
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 5: Why does he just look like they put him at

2390
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 5: the barber chair. It was like, come over here and

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01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 5: take this picture.

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01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 2: He was getting a haircut next Karen, apparently, So what

2393
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 2: if that's his what's that? What if that's how he's

2394
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 2: been paying for everything?

2395
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like, hey, man, let

2396
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 1: me borrow your car.

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna go ahead, go to the store and

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01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 2: get us something to drink, like all right, cool.

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01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, let me get that paper pencil on

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01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 1: having that pelt gun. I'll be right back.

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01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 4: My baby's pet gun.

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01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's go to the bonus round.

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01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 2: So far Karen's two for two, diamond is one and one.

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01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: It's it's time. It's it's time.

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01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 2: And keep in mind everything is worth double the points

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01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 2: and double the racism in the bonus round. So it's

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01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 2: getting getting getting stressful. A woman says, we should sit

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01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 2: on the toilet backwards so we can eat at the

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01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 2: same time.

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01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 1: What mm hmmm mm hmm. White A woman, he has this.

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02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 4: New yoga pose you know, like they was doing.

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02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 2: Because what only white people eating in the bathroom by

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02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 2: the toilet.

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02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 5: A woman who boldly said that we've been going to

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02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 5: the toilet wrong.

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02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: It's sparked the furious debate.

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02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 2: A TikTok user promised to change the lives of her

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02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 2: eleven point seven million followers with an unusual hack that

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02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 2: allows you to eat snacks while you go to the toilet.

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02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 2: The video, which is racked up more than three point

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02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 2: four million views, sees Amy setting her iPad on the

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02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:35,920
Speaker 2: back of the toilet alongside a box of Brownies and a.

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02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Bag of Chris and a drink. Are white. I also

2424
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: like the choice of brownies here because it does one thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to eat on the toilet.

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02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to eat on the toilet all but

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02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:52,400
Speaker 2: it's definitely not gonna be anything brown and mushi.

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02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 1: Period.

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02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 2: She then sits facing the toilet seat so that she's

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02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 2: able to watch Netflix at the same time. Unsurprisingly, the

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02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 2: hack has been slammed for being unhygienic and for being

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02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 2: a tutorial on how to get e coli.

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Speaker 1: This will change your life forever.

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02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,000
Speaker 2: You have been pooping wrong, She said, what I want

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02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 2: you to do is poop backwards, get all your favorite snacks,

2436
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 2: get your favorite show, and that's how you poop. It's

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02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 2: the best of all time. Since being posted, the video

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02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 2: has been like more than four hundred and twenty thousand

2439
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 2: times to receive more than twelve thousand comments from divided users.

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02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 2: Whilst a few people were disgusted about how unhygienic the

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02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 2: hack was, others were keen to give.

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02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 1: It a go themselves.

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02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 4: What they white too.

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02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 2: One person said my food can't touch bathroom air. Another

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02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 2: said she is a different breed, that's us. Oh wait, wait,

2446
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 2: wait that if she has seen the person and she

2447
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 2: said she a different breed, this might be a black

2448
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 2: woman on the on the fridge.

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02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 4: She ain't made like us.

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02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, if she had to say this is a breed,

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02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 2: might be one of them outlined the game, you know

2452
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 2: how when we see the motherfuckers that are outlining, like oh,

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02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 2: that's even They must.

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02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: Have been grew up the white people.

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02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 4: Ma mama wore me about them people.

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02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, we do do that, We do do that.

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02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:29,800
Speaker 2: Oh man, uh unhygienic, but okay, yeah. A third person said, unhygienic,

2458
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 2: but okay. One person revealed l o L. I'm doing

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02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 2: this after I clean my bathroom.

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02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:36,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

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02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 1: Another one said, TikTok teaches me more than university.

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02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 2: All right, that's right, all right, here we go, Karen,

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02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 2: I guess the race of Amy. Her TikTok user name

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02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 2: is Amy Woa.

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02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 4: So, Karen, I think I'm still gonna go white.

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02:02:54,920 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 1: Karen's going white, Diamond. I was fully in. That's in whiteness.

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02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: That's never gonna come out of my mouth the only time,

2468
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: me being Carton Terry Crews like we the Stacey Dash

2469
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 1: went fully invested.

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02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 2: Okay, my portfolio if you look at it right now,

2471
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 2: back and apologized later like.

2472
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, y'all, hey.

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02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 2: But it's the person saying they're a different breed. That's

2474
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 2: what that That through that, through the monkey rig in there.

2475
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 2: But the Amy is solidifying the whiteness too.

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02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 1: Gosh, damn white. Okay white. Check the chat room.

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02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:49,000
Speaker 2: I love how much you deliberate about these. This is

2478
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 2: my favorite part the chat room.

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02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm still going white, damn it. Diminiscence even hair discussed. Agent.

2480
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 1: Give me North Asian. I call North Asian white agents.

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02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Nasty ass.

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02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:08,400
Speaker 2: That's all white Asian, nasty ass.

2483
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Don't wash her legs.

2484
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 2: Amy, white legs ain't been watching years k bitch white.

2485
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh you brought it back to ice cube casp for

2486
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 2: white white people.

2487
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:19,560
Speaker 1: So nasty white, her legs ain't clean.

2488
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:30,879
Speaker 2: White, not theopak do black? Amy's exist white ass backwards?

2489
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 2: Amy white Asian. I don't know if you meant to

2490
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 2: spell it that way. Uh he had to sob he

2491
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 2: had a sod of dog with those brownies Asian. Oh easy,

2492
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:44,680
Speaker 2: you took it back to the old school races.

2493
02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 1: We just had a shooting. What's going on over here? Hey,

2494
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: y'all still being black over here? Can I come back

2495
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,360
Speaker 1: in Stacey dash? Oh that's just a joke. Bubba gups.

2496
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:59,160
Speaker 2: Betty White, Whether the whiter than the mob that invaded

2497
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 2: the capitol? The correct answer is, and most of you

2498
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 2: said white, she was white.

2499
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 1: Some people say Asian.

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02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 2: It was it was theo it was the wool that

2501
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 2: threw the Asian in there A yeah, yes, she got

2502
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 2: see I don't work. I don't think she was ever

2503
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 2: truly using the bathroom. I think she was trying to

2504
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 2: flock flex for TikTok because because clearly she's not she

2505
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 2: don't I guarantee you she don't do this It's just

2506
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 2: one of those things that this will be funny on TikTok,

2507
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 2: it'll go viral and it's like, this is stupid. So

2508
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 2: the reason people don't eat on the toilet, like you

2509
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 2: weren't the first person to think of that.

2510
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 1: We just all said oh.

2511
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 4: I was like no, you know.

2512
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: It's like if you were like, oh, y'all, you know

2513
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,160
Speaker 1: what you can eat in the sewer, we'd be like, we.

2514
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 2: Know you could do that, Yes I could. Why would

2515
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:21,680
Speaker 2: you the world never know? All right, last thing we

2516
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:25,839
Speaker 2: do on the show, So have you heard of disease?

2517
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: Were in a pandemic? Okay, good luck? All right? Last

2518
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 1: thing sword ratchetess talking about that NYPD I cleared the

2519
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:59,240
Speaker 1: longest ever. I always laugh with this at this point.

2520
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 1: It's the running Joe that's the longest side effect.

2521
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 2: Samurai sword swinging man punches officer during struggle with police

2522
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 2: in Manhattan. A man with a samurai sword punched an

2523
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:15,160
Speaker 2: officer during the struggle with the police in the Upper

2524
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 2: east Side over the weekend.

2525
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 1: Officers confronted the suspect.

2526
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 2: While I was finding the cause about a man wielding

2527
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 2: a katana near Madison Avenue at East seventy third Street

2528
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 2: on Saturday evening. The man allegedly refused to drop the

2529
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 2: weapon and then lunched that officers.

2530
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh gotta be white, still alive? Come.

2531
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 2: The man punched an officer in the face and stomach

2532
02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 2: repeatedly before he was apprehended. The NYPD tweeted an image

2533
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 2: of the sword on Wednesday, along with the message wrong sentry,

2534
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 2: wrong period, just wrong. They're like, this ain't nineteen, This

2535
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 2: ain't the seventeenth century.

2536
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 1: Edo period of Japan.

2537
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 2: Come on, what are you doing? You need an AK

2538
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 2: forty seven like all the other white folks.

2539
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 4: Oh, tell, look like a straight up anime sword. I

2540
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 4: bet you got a name.

2541
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, ro yes chopping motherfuckers. It's a dope looking sword.

2542
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I wouldn't want it around the Following

2543
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,880
Speaker 2: the struggle with the suspect refusing to drop the weapon

2544
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 2: and resulting in injuries of the cop, he was arrested

2545
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 2: with no injuries to the public.

2546
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:21,760
Speaker 1: I do have to wonder if you're the cop that

2547
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 1: got his ass.

2548
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:25,080
Speaker 2: Look, you probably don't think this ship was cute at

2549
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 2: all that they posted this little tweet like wrong century,

2550
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 2: Like nigga, my stomach hurt?

2551
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 4: Come on, what was my backup, ain't got time for

2552
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 4: the joke.

2553
02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 1: Sorry, we had to get this tweet off.

2554
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 2: The suspect, thirty three year old Wilson Prichardo, faces charges

2555
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 2: of assault of an officer, attempted assault of an officer,

2556
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 2: resisting arrest, reckless ngangement, and criminal possession of a weapon.

2557
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 2: The officer was taken to a hospital has since recovered.

2558
02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 1: Damn, he gotta be so bad he went to the hospital.

2559
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 1: What's the name again, Wilson?

2560
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 4: What?

2561
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's not yess the race? We know he's white.

2562
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 1: You gotta be I mean, the cops ain't shoot him.

2563
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 1: You gotta be white. You gotta look that one up. Yeah.

2564
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:13,280
Speaker 5: We're just bringing to educate people about swords and about

2565
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:15,440
Speaker 5: how we need to sing loss for swords as we

2566
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 5: do guns protect people. People out here stabbing folks, and

2567
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 5: people act like it's all right.

2568
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a black dude with a sor. It

2569
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 1: was a shadow. I love how they were joking, right,

2570
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was cute. Thought it was cute. Don't

2571
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 1: what wrong century anyway? Officer Prochecco's going to the hospital.

2572
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, he needed to get checked on.

2573
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:38,560
Speaker 5: It's the right sentry for him because he here and

2574
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 5: now he got sucked up.

2575
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: You don't care what century it is. Well, Diamond, this

2576
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: has been so fun yday.

2577
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:48,280
Speaker 2: Don't be as if you ever need to promote something whatever,

2578
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:49,120
Speaker 2: let let us know.

2579
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,200
Speaker 1: Welcome back in time, y'all.

2580
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 2: Go listen to Marsha's plate. Okay, you're already own Spotify

2581
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:56,360
Speaker 2: right now.

2582
02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 1: They're on Spotify as well. Yes, go ahead, hit that follow.

2583
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,440
Speaker 2: Button, you know, get that update every week like we do,

2584
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:04,400
Speaker 2: and enjoy the show.

2585
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, such a great show.

2586
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:09,760
Speaker 5: Show them the same love did y'all show us right,

2587
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 5: Call email whatever it takes and let them know that

2588
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 5: y'all heard about them.

2589
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 1: Come for the bop through the show, Come for the bops,

2590
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:17,160
Speaker 1: Come for the bops.

2591
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 2: Stay for the last get yourself some experience over here,

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02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 2: Domd thank you so much.

2593
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for having me. I had a

2594
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:25,600
Speaker 1: great time. I'm glad you did.

2595
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 2: And we'll be back tomorrow night with another show. I

2596
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:32,200
Speaker 2: don't think we have any more guests for the rest

2597
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 2: of the week, so it's probably just us, so y'all

2598
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 2: know that's y'all like it.

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02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 1: You love it, We love it. We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Until then, I love you, Yah.