1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the stacks. DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: back with you, Buck? What is up? Man? 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: Man? 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited DJ. The preseason is all done. We have 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: another week and some change to wait. Well, we're about 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: to kick off the real season and what I well, 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: I kind of have mixed feelings about this part. What 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: I hate about this part is obviously so many guys 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: are going to hit the streets mass exodus with all 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: the cuts. 12 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: But what I love about it is people putting the 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: puzzle together. 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: So now we're going to play real ball, and so 15 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: everyone has kind of played with the cars close to 16 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: the vest during the preseason. I can't wait to see 17 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: what some of these teams are going unleash during the 18 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: regular season. 19 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: I'll give you my one nightmare cutdown day story. We've 20 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: talked about being the Turk before, we've told some of 21 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: those stories. I think you had to do this probably 22 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: early on we all did with you know, the boards, 23 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, setting the boards up and the cards and 24 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: when the cuts come, it's a nightmare. You got to 25 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: get all the cards, you got to get new ones 26 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: printed for guys to get claimed, and you know, it's 27 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: a it's a pain. Now it's all everything's digitally, but 28 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: back then you had the General manager's office had the 29 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: entire league up with magnets, and we had to print 30 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: out the cards. And you had to have the logo 31 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: on the card of the team that they were on, 32 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: and the teams, you know, by position up and down. 33 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: So you'd have to pull guys off and then they 34 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: get claimed. You got to print out. You can't just 35 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: take their old card and put it up on this team. Nope, 36 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: you got to print slide, slide little thing in there 37 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: and then and then go. So this is cut down 38 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: day and uh, we are at training camp in Westminster. 39 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: I went the Ravens and I've got to get back. 40 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Uh Jeremiah Washburn and me. Uh Jeremiah was talking about 41 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: before as coach with the Eagles. So we're doing we 42 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: got to do the boards. So we're at Westminster. We 43 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: got to get back to the facility and we're waiting 44 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: on the email from the league. It's supposed to be 45 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: like five o'clock. So we get there and it's five. 46 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: We're just you know, it's like we're just babysitting the 47 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: computer in the office. Nobody else in there were the 48 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: only ones. Like, this is gonna take us forever to 49 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: do all this. Man, I wish these things would come 50 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: in at five o'clock. Nothing, five thirty nothing, six o'clock, 51 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: nothing like what is going on? It gets to be 52 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: like seven o'clock. I'm like, there's no way the league, 53 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: This league is two hours behind. We walked by in 54 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: the fax machine. They had faxed it to the teams. 55 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: They hadn't sent the email. He had just been sitting 56 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: on the fax machine, which a lot of people probably listen, 57 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: don't even know what a fax machine is. Had just 58 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: been sitting there for two hours and we didn't know 59 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: about it. And it was a long night. It was 60 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: a long night and getting all that done. But now, 61 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they're going from ninety there's no other cuts. 62 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: This is it. This is the only ones. You're going 63 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: from ninety to fifty three. That's a massive amount of 64 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: guys getting ready hit the street. 65 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, massive amount of guys. 66 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy to to even think about that, 67 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: like that's going to be what happens. 68 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: But you have all of that, you have people trying 69 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: to compile the practice rosters. 70 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: You have decision makers trying to figure out who you 71 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: can slide through waivers who can't, how those guys are 72 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna be signed. You've got to be ready to negotiate 73 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: with certain guys to try and keep them on your 74 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: squad or lure them away from other practice squad designations. 75 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: It's a lot of chaos, but the good part is 76 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: if you're a team, you now got eleven or twelve 77 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: days to get your team ready to play, and so 78 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work that can be done during 79 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: a time. 80 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. We have some fun stuff we're gonna 81 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: hit today. We hit on these rookie quarterbacks. We have 82 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: c J. Stroud being named the starter in Houston, so 83 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: we'll get to that. What are expectations realistic expectations there? 84 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson the way he finished up the preseason, we'll 85 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: touch on that as well as Bryce Young. We have 86 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: the trade with Trey Lance and the Cowboys. We'll get 87 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: to that in just a moment. A lot lots of 88 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: things to get to. We'll touch on the games that 89 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: we were at, but I gotta tell you one more 90 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: funny story and then we'll then we'll get going here, 91 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: did the You're doing the TV for the Jags in 92 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: the preseason. I do the Chargers radio. But they had 93 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: an issue where Noah Eagle, who does TV for the 94 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: Charger in the preseason, he had to fill in for 95 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Jack collins Worth and get out to Ireland call the 96 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Notre Dame game. So ended up being Money myself and 97 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: Dan Fouts doing the tea which was simulcast on the 98 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: radio for the Chargers call. Yeah. So yeah, it was fun. 99 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: We had We had a good time. But Fouts, man, 100 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: I've grew up as somebody who grew up in San Diego, 101 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: like you know, Dan Fouts doesn't get bigger than that, 102 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: and so it was, you know, and I've I've had 103 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: dinner with him a few times in mixed company and 104 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: it just seemed like the nicest guy. But you don't 105 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: know what it's like to work with somebody till you 106 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: work with him. Dan Fouts sneaky funny, like sneaky funny. Look, 107 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: I hit him up. I hit him up. We rolled 108 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: a graphic and it showed like I wanted it to 109 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: have the conversation, you know, big picture preseason stuff, and 110 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: I was like the AFC quarterbacks that the Chargers and 111 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: Herbert will have to get through to get a championship. 112 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: And it's you know, it's all the guys. It's Mahomes 113 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: and Burrow and Rogers and Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, you know, 114 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: all these guys up on a graphic. So I said, Dan, 115 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: can you remember a time we've had this many quarterbacks, 116 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, in one conference? Like it's so lopsided. It 117 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: feels like Trevor was on there as well, Trevor Lawrence. 118 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: And he goes, I'll be honest with you. I look 119 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 2: at those guys and all I see is dollar signs 120 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: for the contracts that they just signed. I go, Dan, 121 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: I go, Dan, you imagine if they'd have had this 122 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: pace structure when you were playing. I said, you would 123 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: have flown your own helicopter to call this game tonight. 124 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: And he said, if they had have had that pay 125 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: structure when I was playing, I would not be out 126 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: of the game. 127 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: So funny. 128 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I ever told you this. 129 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: They were like my favorite team during that era when 130 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: he was a quarterback. 131 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: They were checking it. 132 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: So going all the way back to when they were 133 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: doing I just remember the game where they played down 134 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: in the Orange Bowl and they have to take Killen 135 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: Winslow owl over his head, all over his head or whatever. 136 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: But I just remember and my guy DJ was. It 137 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: wasn't Charlie Jorner, it wasn't West Chilly. My guy was 138 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: John Jefferson. 139 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 2: Oh JJ. 140 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: I loved JJ. 141 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: It was something about the wretch backs and they had 142 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: it going and all that. I was heartbroken when they 143 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: traded him away, but I loved that team and Chuck 144 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Muntsey and uniforms and the old school gold pants with 145 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: the blue like. 146 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: I just loved all of that. 147 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: And so that's why it was funny when in college 148 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Natron leaves early and ends up there. 149 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: It's always kind of funny. 150 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: But man, I used to love to watch the Chargers play, 151 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: and so it's funny to see you talk about Dan 152 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: Fous and all that because I just remember how good 153 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: they were and how that football was different because the 154 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: quarterback is calling his own plays and they're throwing it. 155 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: And Charlie Jorder was my first coach, is my first 156 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: position in the prost And Charlie told me, I, look, 157 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: sometimes it's always like the wives tele that continues to grow. 158 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: He said that he and Dan fouts could run what 159 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: is called the Bang eight blindfolded. So a bandgate, for 160 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: you guys to know, is a skinny post. And the 161 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: way that it's done if you can visualize it. If 162 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: you're on the numbers whatever it is, the football number. 163 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: If you line up in the middle of the numbers 164 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, you angle. You go straight down 165 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: the field, you angle out to the bottom of the numbers. 166 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: You at the bottom of the numbers, right around eleven 167 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: or twelve yards and you angle, but not for the upright, 168 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: but you basically angled to one yard inside that number. 169 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: And when it's thrown against cover three, it is unguardable. 170 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: You can't stop like you cannot stop it. So Charlie 171 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Joyner used to tip my rookie he won. He used 172 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: to make me call him greatness. So I had to 173 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: call Charlie Jordan every day when I would show up. 174 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: So I got Andre Reid there, I got Bill Brooks there, 175 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: but I got to call the coach greatness. 176 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: No one else has to call the net but me, 177 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: I got a call him break. 178 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, he swore that he and Dan Fous used 179 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: to run that route blindfold that he could put on 180 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: the blindfold and Dan Foules would put it right in 181 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: the chest because that's how many times they've done it. 182 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: So that's my memory of Dan fous Because Charlie Jordan 183 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: would always talk about. 184 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: Great all day. Well he said, he said, And we 185 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: were talking off air before the game or during the game. 186 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: It came up there was a short yardage play and uh, 187 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: he was talking about their offense at the head and 188 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: I said, Dan, like, if you know, there a lot 189 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: of times you'll see if you're watching games on send, 190 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: you'll see it every week when the quarters running down 191 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: and you have a short yardist player whatever, you'll see 192 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: the offense get up to the line and it's just 193 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: they're not gonna snap the ball. They're just trying to 194 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: get a hard count. They're not they don't even have 195 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: a play call. They're not going to run a play. 196 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Just see if theying get you to jump and then 197 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: the quarter expires and and off they go. So we're 198 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: talking about that and then other short yardage and I 199 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: was talking to him about, uh, you know, what are 200 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the hard count like short yardage situations? 201 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: Like he goes, ah, the defense is aware of it. 202 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna get him one out 203 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: of one hundred times. And then I got Chuck Munsey 204 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: back there. What do I care to snap the ball 205 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: and give it the Chuck bu Hard. Yeah. 206 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: No. 207 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: He was great though. Man, he was fun. We had 208 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: a fun time. 209 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: That's funny. He's like, yeah, don't make it. Don't make 210 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: it harder what it is, So keep it really simple. 211 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: So while we're up there in San Francisco, it's a 212 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: couple hours for the game, We're sitting in the press 213 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: box and all of a sudden, ding ding ding, you 214 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: look down at your phone and the Trey Lance trade happens. 215 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: He goes to the Dallas Cowboys for a fourth round pick. 216 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: I had been alerted that there was a high possibility 217 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: he would be traded before that game kicked off. I 218 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: was thinking Minnesota. You know, it's kind of the team 219 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: that was out there that you're hearing that might be 220 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: the landing spot. It ends up being Dallas, kind of 221 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: out of left field. So just your first takeaway on 222 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: the decision to make the trade and what you thought 223 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: of Dallas making this move. 224 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: I love the Dallas Cowboys making the move. And here's 225 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: why I love it. Mike McCarthy spent a lot of 226 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: time in Green Bay. In Green Bay, the fundamental philosophy 227 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: is you're always in the quarterback business. You always want 228 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: to be in the mindset of developing quarterbacks. You've seen 229 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: it in Philadelphia when Howie Roseman talked about we want 230 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: to be a quarterback factory. Andy REI spent time in 231 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: Green Bay. When I was there, Ron Wolf was there. 232 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Ron Wolf had learned this from Al Davis. You always 233 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: kick the tires on a quarterback. The reason why is 234 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: because the change of scenery, a new environment, a new voice, 235 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: you might be able to bring something out of that quarterback. 236 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has talked about the old days before the 237 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: new CBA, where he used to have the quarterback school 238 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: where in the off season you can pour all your 239 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: time and resources into developing the four quarterbacks that are 240 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: on your roster. You give them two as you break 241 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: down their stuff. He goes all the way back to 242 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: doing it with Joe Montana and Steve Young and all 243 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: those guys like just they had videos and collections of 244 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: just watching those guys develop. 245 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: Well. 246 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: I can't think of a better situation for Trey Lance 247 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: to be in than one where he doesn't have the 248 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: pressure of having to live up to the expectations that 249 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: came along with him being the third overall pick. Dak 250 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: Prescott is a franchise quarterback. Dak Prescott has look a 251 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: wad of cash that ensures that he's going to be 252 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: QB one. Dak Prescott is a good leader and willing 253 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: to give of anything to the guys in the room. 254 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: You've heard people talk about how he just like is 255 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: willing to share whatever. So now Trey Lance gets to 256 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: go in there and just work, just do the work. 257 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Watch Dak Prescott be a leader. Mike McCarthy can pour 258 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: into him hard in the season, but next off season 259 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: really dig into his mechanics, his footwork and teach him 260 00:10:59,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: how to play. 261 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: And guess what if it never works? It was a 262 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: fourth round, fourth round pick. Yeah, I think it's a 263 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: no brainer. I think it's a no brainer on the 264 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys side. I think the other side of it, the 265 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: other side of it, buck real quick, who's the team 266 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: in that division they got to beat? 267 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: Oh it's hilder Feels. 268 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Who's going to give you a better look and practice 269 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: to beat Jalen Hurts than Trey Lance. 270 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all those things matter. 271 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: That's just a bonus. I mean, that's not the reason 272 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: why you make the trade, but that's a nice little bonus. 273 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: I mean all of it. 274 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, how many people have a first round quarterback 275 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: as the number three right now? Like that talent alone 276 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: is And look, and I know people say, hey, you 277 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: got to get off your draft rads and all that. 278 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 279 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Off the draft grades they got, they got. They got 280 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: them for a fourth round pick. 281 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: Right The consensus around the league when trade Lance came 282 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: out was that he was worthy of being a first 283 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: round pick. So that talent is there somewhere. Everyone around 284 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: the league saw him as a first round talent. So 285 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: now if you're the Dallas Cowboys, there's no pressure to 286 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: get him on the field. You try to develop him 287 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: best that you can. And you see what it is. 288 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: It's no different than when the Carolina Panthers took Sam Donald. 289 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: It's no different than when the San Francisco forty nine 290 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: continue to take Sam Donald. The talent is there, you're 291 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: trying to work with the talent. So to me, from 292 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: the Cowboys standpoint, this is it. But people need to 293 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: get off of Trey Lance. Is there to replace Dak Prescott. 294 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: We don't know how good a player Trey Lance he 295 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: is going to be. The thing that you do is 296 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: you want to develop him and see what he could be, 297 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: and then you make the decision after that in terms 298 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: of how he fits into your long term plan. But 299 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys standpoint, oh, this is a no brainer 300 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: all day, every day. You got to kick the tires 301 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: and see what he could be in your system with 302 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: your development plan. 303 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see what happens with Cooper Rush. You know, 304 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: he's a number two. He's played decently well when he's 305 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: been given opportunities. You know, maybe he's good. He's moving 306 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: on soon at the end of his contract, and then 307 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: that opens the door for Trey to be the number two. 308 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: And then you kind of just say, okay, we'll hold 309 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: him as long as we can develop them. They're not 310 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: going to pick up a fifth year option. I mean, 311 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: he's not going to play between now and then, So 312 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: I don't imagine how in the world it would be 313 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: like twenty eighty eight million bucks something like that. That's 314 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: not happening. So you've got. 315 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: Two years two US and so DJ the going rate 316 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: for a backup quarterback a good backup quarterback is like 317 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: five six million annually, so if they have to pick 318 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: up some of that, that's just the cost of doing business. 319 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: But to me, last year we saw over seventy different 320 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks start a game in the National Football League. Trey 321 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Lance has started like a handful of games. Okay, say 322 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: there's an injury to your two guys, you got to 323 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: have somebody in the fold. So to me, this is 324 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: not about moving on from Cooper Rush. This is making 325 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: you're in our quarterback room. We have enough to be 326 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: able to get through the season just in case that's 327 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: due diligence. That's what you should do as a team. 328 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: And so for me, it made a lot of sense 329 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to make the move. 330 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: How about the other side of it, the Niners. I mean, 331 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: obviously you didn't get anywhere near the recoup the value 332 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: that you had. But to me, everyone's talking about the 333 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: fact that, Okay, well sam Donold was named the two. 334 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: That's why they made this trade. I actually think it 335 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: was the they were more comfortable with Brandon Allen as 336 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: the three because they need to have three when Brandon 337 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,359 Speaker 2: Allen's on the practice squad or however they do it, 338 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: but they showed last year that two was not enough 339 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: to get them through. They needed three quarterbacks. There's no 340 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: way they have only two quarterbacks rostered. You know, once 341 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: we get to the start, no chance. So to me, 342 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: that was the decision they made, which goes back to 343 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: the conversation we had last week, which was Kyle Shanahan. 344 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: You know, he toyed with the idea of changing what 345 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: he does and trying to create a new offense around 346 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: a different skill set. And then due to injuries, and 347 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: then due to Brock Purty playing well, and due to 348 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: being in a Super Bowl with Matt Ryan and being 349 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo, I think he 350 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: just came to the conclusion, Look, the system is king 351 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: I have. You know, it's my system, it's what I do, 352 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: it's what I know. I'm gonna stay in that lane. 353 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: And Brandon Allen fits better in this system than Trey 354 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Lance does. 355 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: That was my takeaway, pretty simple to me. I mean, 356 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: that's what it is like. 357 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: And there may be this it's a I can say 358 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: this as a coach. Sometimes like sometimes things don't go 359 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: the way that you want them to go, and sometimes 360 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: you've been maybe kind of pushed or nudged in a 361 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: certain area to go like a coach, I think we 362 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: need to go, and you're like, man, I don't know. 363 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: And I wondered if Mike Shanner was like, man, I 364 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I kind of like this kind of 365 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: quarterback and you kind of get nudged in a different 366 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: direction and then you go and it doesn't work, and 367 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: then now you go, we did it your way. Now 368 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it my way. I'm comfortable with a 369 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: certain style quarterback. I'm going with it, and so I 370 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan is at that point. I am comfortable 371 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: with the guy that allows me to play the game 372 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: a certain way. 373 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna do. No knock to Trey Lance. 374 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: But it wasn't working. 375 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: It hadn't worked out circumstances sometimes not trade's fault. But 376 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: now I'm going to go this direction. I'm going all 377 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: in on Rock Purdy and guys that have skill sets 378 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: like that, because that's where I've had my most success. 379 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: No doubt. Before we get to some of these rooky quarterbacks. 380 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: The game you were at Jacksonville, give me you always 381 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: give me a couple of nugs. What do we got 382 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: a couple of nuggets to take out of it. 383 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So look, I understand it, and I'm fully acknowledged 384 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Homer status. 385 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm home. 386 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm with the Jaguars like you're with the Chargers. I 387 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: see him all the time. I am drinking the Doug 388 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Peterson kool aid. I'm all in this offense that they 389 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: have and they're putting together. I'm telling you right now, 390 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: one the seat of Jacksonville has never seen their team 391 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: led by the office. When an offense can hit thirty, 392 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: this office is going to get close to thirty points again. 393 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: If they stay healthy. It's gonna be really hard to 394 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: stop this offense. 395 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is even better than I think people can imagine. 396 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,359 Speaker 3: This dude is unbelievable. 397 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: He is a true number one and I think you 398 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: can have conversations at the end of this season about 399 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: him being a top five player in the same conversation 400 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: with Devonte Adams and Justin Jefferson in terms of his 401 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: rote runn ability, Stephan Diggs in terms of getting open, 402 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: in terms of being a true number one receiver. He's 403 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: really that good. He is going to set the table 404 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: for those other guys. Evan Ingram Christian kirk Zay Jones 405 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: to get loose, and then the factor for this offense 406 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: is what they can do in the backfield. It's always 407 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: been the conversation about Travis Ittsien. I'm telling you guys 408 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: right now, if you're going to go fantasy, you draft 409 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: in Travis. 410 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: It'sien. You need to go ahead and get Tank Bigsby 411 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: as a handcuff because he. 412 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: Gives them that downhill runner that you need to finish games. 413 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: And if you go back and look Doug Peterson's history, 414 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: he's always done it back by committee and Philly he 415 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: had Legarrett Blunt. Tank Bigsby gives them the Lagarrett Blunt character. 416 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: He feels that role. So this offense is ready to go. 417 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: If they can live through the first couple of weeks 418 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: on the old line with Cam Robinson being out, this 419 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: team is gonna score a lot of points and that's 420 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: gonna give them a chance to be in the conversation 421 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: as one of those teams we talked about going forward 422 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: to play it nice. 423 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: I'll give you the quick takeaways here from the Niners side. 424 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: They played their starters. Party looked pretty sharp, getting the 425 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: ball out on time. I mean it is a point guard. 426 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: That's what he's gonna do. They moved the ball up 427 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: and down the field. The first two drives they fumbled 428 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: going into the end zone at the one, and they 429 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: had a touchdown drive. So they're first team offense look good. 430 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: The other side of it the Chargers playing their backups, 431 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: and it's like, what do you learn from it if 432 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: you're not playing your starters. They've run the ball, They 433 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: ran the ball down their throats. They popped the seventy 434 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: five yard or with Joshua Kelly. This is a team 435 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: it almost ran for three hundred yards against the Rams, 436 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: and in that game they had a seventy five yard 437 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: touchdown run called back by spiller. Kellen Moore has this 438 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: run game kind of dialed in and they make you 439 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: deal with a lot of different things. And I want 440 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: to hit you on this one question, with this one 441 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: aspect of it. One thing that's always befuddled me is 442 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: why more teams don't take advantage where you want to 443 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: call it orbit motion, deep motion, whatever you want to 444 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: call it, to hold the backside and buck. It's free 445 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: of You're literally getting a free of charge block is 446 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: what you're getting. Because you have to account for that 447 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: ball going to that receiver. You have to account for 448 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: it if nothing else is just eye candy and it's 449 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: going to grab your attention and if that caused you 450 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: to freeze, for account But they do it a lot. 451 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: And now they have with Quentin Johnson, who they have 452 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: using this fashion yet, but I imagine that's coming. They're going 453 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: to pitch him one or two of those a game. 454 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: Darius Davis, a TCU speedster, the returner. Give him in there, 455 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: and even if you don't give him the ball, you 456 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: have to respect him and honor him. So they're making 457 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: you now defend the width of the field with the 458 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: run game. And then they have got a downhill rushing attack, 459 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: some duo, some power, you name it that they can 460 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: get downhill in a hurry. This is and look it's 461 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: six years I've been doing it with the Chargers. Preseason 462 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: I always say preseason is a liar, but you can 463 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: see kind of a theme starting to emerge, and I'm like, 464 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, I haven't seen this cohesive a rushing attack 465 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: from them since I've been doing. 466 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: This, And that's the one thing in my mind that's 467 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: been missing from the Chargers. 468 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: They haven't had the ability each. 469 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: There were thirtieth in the league in the run last year, thirtieth. 470 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: And as much as I love Justin Herban, as much 471 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: as we say it's about players, not plays, and you 472 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: want to put the ball in the hands of your 473 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: best players, you don't want him to have it all 474 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: the time against the defense that knows that you're reluctant 475 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: to run the ball. And running the ball, what you 476 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: do is you create more big play opportunities, play action 477 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: loaded boxes and those things. It also gives you an 478 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to finish the game the right way. You get 479 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: up on people and hey, let's take a little air 480 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: out of it. Let's kind of grind it out a 481 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: little bit. And I'll say this just maybe it's the 482 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: old school mentality that I have. Your toughness comes from 483 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: your ability to run the ball. When everyone knows that 484 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: you have to run it. No matter how you want 485 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: to play, you still at some point in games you've 486 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: got to be able to punch people in the mouth 487 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: to just retain enough physicality to them so if they 488 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: can run the ball. Spiller, Austin Agley, whoever as Kellen 489 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Moore designs it, it gives them a better opportunity to 490 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: be one of those teams that's the last one standing 491 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: in the AFC Tournament. 492 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: I was talking to another coach who's going against Kellen 493 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: Moore and asked him what makes it challenging? You know, 494 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: obviously the numbers they put up in Dallas are what 495 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: they are. What is it? You know? Because I was 496 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: talking to him about this run game and what they're doing, 497 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: and I think it's I think it's a good sign 498 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: for them. Offensively said maybe more so than any play 499 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: caller in the league. This is high praise. But he said, 500 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: Kellen knows your rules defensively, I'd love for you to 501 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: hit on that buck as a play caller, the importance 502 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: of knowing what the rules are on the other side 503 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: of the ball for that particular defense. 504 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's talk about it first like Kellen Moore. 505 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: But I'll do it because we listen to. 506 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: We listened to the. 507 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: Podcast play Calls on Kyle Shanahan, and I think if 508 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: you haven't heard it, guys, you need to listen to it. 509 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: On the Athletic It was great. 510 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: But Kyle Shanahan talked about like knowing the defensive rules. 511 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: See because in my experience. I've been around a lot 512 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: of offensive coaches and they think they know what the 513 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: defense is doing. You know, Oh, they're gonna be a quarters, 514 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: this is what they're doing. And then you tell them 515 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: a from defense. 516 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. 517 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that at all, Like, that's not what 518 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: the rule is. So if you really know defense, and 519 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: if you spent some time on the defense side of 520 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: the ball, it now gives you an opportunity to be 521 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: able to attack. It's almost like when you see former 522 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: DA's become criminal defense lawyer attorneys. 523 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: You know, a law and order. 524 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: They know how the other side think, so it gives 525 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: them the ability to attack. Like from a strategy standpoint, 526 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: you know how to do it. 527 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: That's where it comes from. 528 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: So when I think about killing Moore and his ability 529 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: to understand what they're doing on defense, well, now I 530 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: can put people in conflict. A lot of what RPOs do. 531 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: They put people in bonds because you cannot be right. 532 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow you to be right. I'm 533 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: gonna put you under this stress that makes you fall apart. 534 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: If killing Moore has that kind of intel on how 535 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: to make defenses kind of put them into lemmas and bonds. Well, now, 536 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean it just opens up, It opens up the 537 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: floodgates for what this offense can do to you. 538 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's interesting. It's an aspect of calling players. 539 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't think people think about. It's not just what 540 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: we do, it's it's also knowing, Okay, when they present 541 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: this look, I have answers, and you have a smart quarterback. 542 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: It's really helpful because those answers might be presented late 543 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: in the play clock. You're not in their ear anymore. 544 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: You need that quarterback to be able to understand what 545 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: the rules are and where they can exploit it. And 546 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: that's you know, that's something to keep an eye when 547 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: you're looking at these offenses. You expect to have a 548 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: big jump this year. Continuity is a big part of it, 549 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: but also having somebody that's calling the plays up there 550 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: that gets it. All Right, we're gonna take quick break, 551 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll talk about these rookie quarterbacks as 552 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: well as some of the college action. What stood out 553 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: to us this past weekend? All right, buck rookie quarterbacks 554 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: c J. Stroud was named the starter. So just kind 555 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: of a thumbnail sketch, what are realistic expectations for these 556 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: three guys. When we think about Bryce Young, we can 557 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: start there. C. J. Stroud, Anthony richardson what are you 558 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: looking for? What should we expect as we get ready 559 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: to kick this thing off. 560 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: Okay, of the three of us, talk about Bryce Young first, 561 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: because I'm the most optimistic about him. When you heard 562 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: Frank Wright talk about Bryce Young, he just talked about 563 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: how this guys is just the maturity beyond his years, 564 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: just a great understanding of how to manage the game, 565 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: which is really important for rookies because a lot of 566 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: times that's the thing that they don't understand. How to 567 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: play confamentity football, offense, defense, special teams. Making sure that 568 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't put the defense in harm's way. So I'm 569 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: going to take care of the ball, understanding how to 570 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: command the hard to get everybody going. 571 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: And then the talent speaks for himself. He's a talented player. 572 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: He can make the throws and all that he to 573 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: me of the others is in the best situation, he 574 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: has a better team around him. 575 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: This defense can keep the score down. 576 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Offensively, I'm not saying they're the most high powered offense, 577 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: but I think they can manufacture some things to allow 578 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: him to play solid football where they can win. So 579 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm very positive about Bryce Young. His maturity, his experience 580 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: at Alabama, playing under a grizzled coach and Nick Saban 581 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: should prepare him to play well from the jump. I 582 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: don't think the numbers will be crazy, but I think 583 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: the wins will be there for Bryce Young. 584 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, gosh, I'm not even worried about him. 585 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: This sounds crazy to say about a guy who hadn't 586 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 2: played yet. I'm worried about what's around him. We use 587 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: we always talk about the PE's, you know, we talk 588 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: about the play caller, which I think they're great with 589 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: the play caller, the protection, eh, the playmakers like they 590 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: got some work to do on the other piece. They've got, 591 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: they've got the quarterback, they've got the play color. I 592 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: still think the talent around him is not great. But 593 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: the words that I wrote down, I went back and 594 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: watched every play from him in the preseason this morning, 595 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: and some of it you talked about Buck, But to me, 596 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: the stuff that jumped out, the poise, the calm, the maturity, 597 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: the vision, like all those things are accelerated well beyond 598 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: what you should be at this point in time. There's 599 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: a reason why when we're going through the draft process, 600 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: we talked about the fact that I know we didn't 601 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: have Aaron Rodgers maybe his arm strength obviously doesn't have 602 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: his size, but there are a lot of similarities. Aaron 603 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: Rodgers looks like he was born to stand in the 604 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: pocket and just get comfortable back there and make everything 605 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: look smooth and easy. You know, I think about that 606 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: throw of Joe Burrow when they slow it down and 607 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: he throws it and does like kind of like a 608 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: three sixty and warm ups and just like got Lee. 609 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: How do you make how do you make that look 610 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: so easy and so smooth and so cool? That, to 611 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: me is what you see from Bryce. He's very comfortable. 612 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: He doesn't look like with anything but moving around, or 613 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: he doesn't look like he's phased. But I don't know 614 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: what they're going to be able to protect him, and 615 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't know they have a lot of guys that 616 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: can win. That's why I'm a little bit nervous about 617 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: what the results might look like. Although I believe they 618 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: got the player right. 619 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, they got the player right. And as long 620 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: as you get the player right, you eventually find a 621 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: way to figure it out and some of the stuff 622 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: coming out of there. They talked about they threw a 623 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: lot at the team during the preseason. They'll take the 624 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: next two weeks to figure out what they do well, 625 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: what works for their personnel, and then put together a 626 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: game plan that allows them to have success with what 627 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: they have. 628 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what that looks like when they 629 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: kind of kick off for real in a couple of weeks. 630 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: How about CJ. So to me, CJ expecting him to 631 00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: be the starter. 632 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: I thought that his talent would eventually show through, and 633 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: we've seen flashes of him being able to play and 634 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: play pretty well. 635 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: He has to work through some of the growing pains. 636 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: This offense is a lot different than what he played 637 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: in in Ohio State, but we've talked about it. He's 638 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: probably the more natural, maybe the most natural, of all 639 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: the throwers that regard as his high end talents. We 640 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: just need to see him at the consistency and I 641 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: would say their urgency, and the urgency comes from the 642 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: confidence to let it go, let it go on time 643 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: and trust that his wide receivers would be there when 644 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: he gets to that point, That's when this offense would 645 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: be terrific. 646 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: You know, Buck with CJ. I thought with him, the 647 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: encouraging thing was going through the video was the trend 648 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: line was going up. So from when we first saw him, 649 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: I think it was New England that first preseason game 650 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: a little shaky. I think he really trust his eyes 651 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: all that much. He was holding the ball at times, 652 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: and then you just saw him get better and by 653 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: all accounts what you heard from training camp, it was 654 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: the same thing. They named him the starter late. Personally, 655 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: I wish they almost have done that a little bit earlier, 656 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: just to give him, you know, even more reps, practice reps. 657 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: Maybe they did. I don't know how they divvied up 658 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: the practice reps, but I hope he's got enough to 659 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: get him ready to go. I just know when I 660 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: watched him in limited action last week that he looked 661 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: way more comfortable than what I saw in that first 662 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: game against the New England Patriots. So the trend line's 663 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: going up. I think it's a they got to run 664 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: the heck out of the ball. Let him push the 665 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: ball over the top vertically. That's where he's gonna that's 666 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: where he's gonna thrive, make some big plays. I don't 667 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: I don't expect him be completing seventy percent of his passes. 668 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't expect him to throw it all over the lot, 669 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: But I expect you're gonna see a mixture of some 670 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: big plays and they're gonna run the ball and play 671 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: try and play as good a defense as they can, 672 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: and that's going to be kind of their formula early on. 673 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: But I think more than anything else, you're gonna see 674 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: Stroud doing something he hasn't done a lot of in college. 675 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: You're gonna see him get better and better and better 676 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: as the season goes along. 677 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: That's the expectation. He's gonna get better over the course 678 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: of the season. They don't have a lot around him, 679 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: but they certainly I believe they can play great d 680 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: They can run the football. Dimiko is gonna make it 681 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: where it's a complimentary game where they're running and playing defense. 682 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: And then you'll wait for CJ. Stroud to kind of 683 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: develop and get to the point where he can be 684 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: more of a playmaker than a game manager, and that'll 685 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: happened in time. 686 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: The talent is there. 687 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I think the toughness is also there, so I would 688 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: expect to see him have kind of like some mixed results, 689 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: but eventually flash enough where we start getting. 690 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: Excited about his talent. 691 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: How about Anthony? 692 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: So Anthony is the wild card because Anthony is the 693 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: one that kind of has the ooh a factor about him. 694 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: Everyone is just really impressed with what he's able to 695 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: do as an athlete, big arm, talent, tremendous athlete that 696 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: can run and do those things, and. 697 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: A lot is going to be on him. I thought 698 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: it would be better if Jonathan Taylor was there and 699 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: fully on board, took care of him. You run it. Now. 700 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about him being a one man 701 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: show and having to maybe do more than we expect it, 702 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: but eve enough to make some things happen might be 703 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: more I would say splash plays then, you know, the 704 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: the these consistent plays that we're going to see from 705 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: some of the other guys. 706 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably gonna appreciate him more in the highlight package 707 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: than you would kind of going through the all twenty 708 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: two and looking at it that way, because there are 709 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: going to be some of those big plays of splash plays. 710 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: I would break it down almost the two different guys 711 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: buck when you watch it, when you watch him off 712 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: play action, whether that's RPOs. Whether that's just pure drop 713 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: back play action, you know, or whether they're booting him 714 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: everything off play action, he just looks so much more comfortable. 715 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: I think it's something when you've played in that kind 716 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: of spread offense in the gun and you're riding the 717 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: back and it's RPOs, or you're riding it and you're rolling. 718 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: He looks like a different guy now when it's just 719 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: pure drop back, no play action, and then get to 720 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: the top of your drop settling there, get comfortable, work 721 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: through your progressions, and deliver the ball. Whereas I said, 722 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: Bryce Young looks like he's been doing that his whole life, 723 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: you know, as a rookie Anthony rich and that's that's 724 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: a work in progress. You saw a couple glimpses of 725 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: some nice throws, but there's some where you're like, oh, man, okay, 726 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: he's not seeing it, he's not feeling it. He's two 727 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: different guys there. So I'm with you on the Jonathan 728 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: Taylor thing. You think, man, okay, if you could run 729 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: the ball, Matt, now we can really lean into it 730 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: with with RPOs and play action. I think that's where 731 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: he's going to have a chance to be successful. But man, Buck. 732 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: If the if the defense for some reason doesn't play 733 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: well and they find themselves down in games and you 734 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: eliminate the run action, it's gonna he's gonna have a 735 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: hard time early on. You know. That's let's let's be 736 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: hopeful and optimistic about where this can go. But he's 737 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: not ready for that side of it at this point 738 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: in time, like Bryce's and I would say, like CJ 739 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: would be no. 740 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: In my mind, it would be disastrous if he's throwing 741 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: at thirty to thirty five times a game early it. 742 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: Somehow you got to protect him, keep the pitch count down. 743 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want to see him do that because 744 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna take some shots. I worry about the confidence 745 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, that's the thing that troubles 746 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: me about that situation. Without the running game, man, how 747 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: do you protect him? How do you how do you 748 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: keep it together for him? 749 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, well, well, no one thing though that That 750 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: is a team that's interesting now. It was a team 751 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: that was really boring the last couple of years, and 752 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: they'll be fun to watch with Anthony Richardson, he'll bring 753 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: some excitement. Hopefully, the you know, the trend line continues 754 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: to head north and we'll see him get better and 755 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: better as the year goes along. College football kicked off 756 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: last week. Not a lot of not a lot of 757 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: exciting games, but we did see some action outside of 758 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: San Diego State's quarterback hitting the ref in the face. 759 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that. That was probably 760 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: the most exciting thing. Oh yes, you got to see 761 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: that video. It's not a great look. But outside of that, 762 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: it was kind of funny except for the ref. But 763 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: sc played. Defense wasn't great kind of what we saw 764 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: last year. The offense was dynamic. I don't know if 765 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: you've got a chance of seeing you that on the 766 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: PAC twelve network, But you know, Caleb did some nice things. 767 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: The stats look great. Some of it, you know, was 768 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, sitting in the pocket, reading it, delivering it. 769 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: The big biggest play of the day I think for him, though, 770 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: was off of a ball that ended up on the ground. 771 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: He scoops it up and throws this seventy five yard touchdown. 772 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he's super talented. 773 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: A closer attention to that game because it was going 774 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: on the same time as the Jags game was kind 775 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: of going or wrapping up. 776 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: So there you go. 777 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a little bit of attention to it. But 778 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: they were playing Santose States, so they're playing my son's squad. 779 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: So I was looking in and the game was twenty 780 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: one to fourteen at halftime. They got it going obviously 781 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: in the second half in the freshman what is exactly. 782 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: Zach ryat Branch that's a bad dude, man. He looked 783 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: like Tavon Austin. That was my tweet on that. It 784 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: looked just like Tevon Austin did at West. 785 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: He just scooting around and that stuff. And let's be real. 786 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: So for SC and SC being one of the teams 787 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: that we talk about as a playoff team is never 788 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: going to be the offense. 789 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: That is the question. 790 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: Can they play good enough defense to deal with the 791 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: heavy wasted they're going to have to knockoff? 792 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: You know that? To me? 793 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: That I mean, that's the thing. Can they ever get 794 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: to the point where they're playing well enough playing on 795 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: defense to be able to kind of slow teams down? 796 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be the challenge. On the other side 797 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: of it, Notre Dame beat the breaks off Navy over 798 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: there in Ireland. Sam Hartman I posted this was looking 799 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: it up. He's twenty four years old. He's three years 800 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 2: older than Anthony Richardson. So the quarterback and Notre Dame 801 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: is three years older than the starting quarterback of the 802 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. We talked about it, you know, a bunch 803 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: over the last month about the quarterbacks having success in 804 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 2: the preseason, Aidan O'Connell. I think about dtr These guys 805 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: played a lot of college football. They're older, they're more mature, 806 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: and now you get a chance to see coming out 807 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: of that slow mesh offense he was in at Wake Forest. 808 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: Now he goes to Notre Dame, he's under center. It's 809 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: going to be a different challenge for Sam Hartman. But 810 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: I thought he he looked he looked like he was 811 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: playing pretty darn good. And the portion of it that 812 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: I saw, and I think with the success of the 813 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: Brock parties of the world and these guys that have 814 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: played a lot of ball, Sam Hartman's won that, hey, 815 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: we better pay attention to them. 816 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 817 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: So Notre Dame much better performance started the season than 818 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: we saw last year when they started out slow. Hartman, 819 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: experienced player played the way for us. Gives them the 820 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: experience that they needed at the position, and it's a 821 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: matter of them continue to build upon what they displayed 822 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: over in Ireland. Short story, it's funny that they were 823 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: playing Navy over in Dublin back in I think it 824 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: might have been twenty twelve. Dj I was coaching in 825 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: La at Notre Dame Sherman Oaks. We played in Ireland 826 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: before Notre Dame played Navy. Really yeah, so we saved 827 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: up for two years, and I think this is to 828 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: make you laugh. I think we saved We saved up 829 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: the money by recycling, so everyone we recycled for over 830 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: a year, maybe a year two years to save up 831 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: for that trip. We went over played team from Arizona, Hamilton, 832 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: which was a perennial state champion. We played over there 833 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: on a Friday night, and then the next day we 834 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: went to I think it was Galic Stadium and watched 835 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame play Navy. And so I'm watching, I'm like, 836 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, just like deja vu, I've seen this, but 837 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: now it was great. I think it's great for Notre 838 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: Dame to go over there and do that. It's even 839 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: better than Marcus Freeman had his team ready to play. 840 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: But you know, Notre Dame will be judged on how 841 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: they perform against some of the head to wasted their 842 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: face down the line. 843 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some big games coming up Ohio State, 844 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: they play Clemson, they play USC. So it's a good 845 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: schedule for Notre Dame. It kicks off in earnest this weekend. 846 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: We got a full slate of college football with some 847 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: great matchups. We'll jump into that a little bit on 848 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: the next episode. Give a little bit a little mini previous. 849 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: Some guys are looking forward to watching there anything else 850 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: you want to jump in? Two buck before we jump 851 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: out of here. 852 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Now, if we just gotta remember to touch on Spencer 853 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: Rattler versus Drake May Carolina. 854 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: Everybody's going to that thing. 855 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: And everybody's going to everybody's going to that because we 856 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: got some great games. But man, if you're into quarterback, play, 857 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: nice weekend to check out some of the top quarterbacks. 858 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got that, and I think, gosh, you got 859 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: to do quarterback. That's right there. I don't know if 860 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 2: they're at. 861 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: Home or the LSU plays with Florida, say yeah, so 862 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: you got people godels in Jordan Travis. 863 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think now you might have even been 864 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: hitting on that too. You can see a bunch of 865 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: bunch of scouts at those games, so that'll be fun. 866 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: All right. That's gonna do it for us today. I 867 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: hope you guys have enjoyed it. We are very close 868 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 2: to having NFL games to talk about and then Move 869 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: the Stix. We're gonna have a little, a little extra 870 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: for you this fall. Just tease you with that little 871 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: extra Move the Sticks this fall. We'll give you announcement 872 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: on that shortly, but we will be back in a 873 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: couple of days with another episode, and we'll look ahead 874 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: to a big college football weekend. As there's no NFL 875 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: action this week, the cuts are coming. Maybe they'll give 876 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: us a trade or two we can discuss as well. 877 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time right here on Move the Sticks. 878 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: You want to ask you